Rare Gecko Editionprevious: >>4757767This thread is dedicated to all animals of the reptilia and amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answeredClassifieds for finding breeders and products:>morphmarket.com>kingsnake.com>faunaclassifieds.com>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)>caudata.orgMost forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.When asking a question, make sure to include these details:>Type and size of animal>Enclosure dimensions>Humidity and temperature>Type of substrate>The decor you use>How often you feed>The type of food you use>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred>How often you handle>Who you bought the animal fromOther Helpful Resourceswww.blackjungleterrariumsupply.comwww.joshsfrogs.comhttp://www.reptilesmagazine.comhttp://www.anapsid.orghttp://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htmhttps://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.htmlhttp://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/
Why can't I find female banded geckos for sale?
>>4781560It's worth it, I've seen a bumper crop of Dekays Brown Snakes locally this spring, a few Garters but no Racers or Nerodia yet.
To the anon who suggested wax worms, you're a champ. Threw one in a dish with a couple small meal worms and he snatched it up immediately. Sorry for the bigfoot-tier pic, didn't want to get too close and spook him or anything.
>>4781799Careful with those, they can actually be habit-forming for some reptiles. They're really high in fat, so they're apparently so tasty some reptiles will stop eating anything else. Once you get some meat on him try to maybe mash some and coat other bugs in imtheir guts if he starts getting picky.
>>4781804I've heard that before, definitely only going to try a wax worm every other feeding, not only because of the addictive quality, but because theyre fucking huge compared to him. Actually it's funny, with how quickly he was on that thing despite it actually moving much less than the meal worms, I wonder if he was fed them before, hell, I wonder if that's part of the problem, maybe I bought a worm addict.
>>4781474That thing looks sick. Where can I purchase one and are they recommended for beginners?
>>4781847>new zealandfuckin RIP.
>>4781877do they have shitty laws or something
>>4781941Yeah, they won't export anything. I mean, they have a Tuatara captive breeding program that's producing more young than they have space for in the sactuary islands, but they barely let zoos have them (they are all technically on loan much like Giant Pandas are with China).
Anyone skilled in handling wild sneks? How do people capture and hold them while keeping them chill? I practice when I see a non venomous one and can lift them up with a stick and move them around, but once I try to touch it, it freaks out. Also, how would you safely capture a wild viper? I'm in fer de lance territory and see 2-3 of them a year. I would like to be able to safely relocate one, if it is ever necessary.
What are some low maintenance, small, animals? That wouldn't roll-explode-and-die if a lamp was off for a day? I want some resilient motherfuckers. I would built them a really nice place to live tho.Is there like a www.resilient-motherfuckers-list.chad?
>>4782038don't bother with hots unless you fancy visits to the hospital.as for non venemous.. er it really depends on the temperment of the snake, but generally so long as they dont feel pinned then they will be more chill (this means allowing them to move around, and just giving them an effective treadmill with your hands handling them). be careful about grabbing near neck/head as that's especially sensitive for obvious reasons, similarly the tail. your best bets to pick them up mid body. obvious that's not always viable.I have about a 10-20% success rate at getting a calm nerodia, but they're known spastics. I'm much better off with rat snakes or rough earth worm or dekays (yes I know that pins a region in the states, no I don't care).
>>4782038The way I handle wild snakes is to hold them loosely and let them move through my hands and just go hand over hand. I was told a very long time ago that doing to let them think they're moving and it helps calm them. All bets are off on venomous snakes though, use a hook and don't give it enough slack on the head end to strike at you.
>>4782069I'm getting a lot of colubrid snakes. Most common is Leptodeira annulata (cat eyes snake) and the last bigger one was a parrot snake. I can pick them up and move them with a stick just fine, but as soon as I try to support them with a finger, they get very agitated. Is it just a matter of trying enough and finding one that doesnt mind?I also have a bunch of turnip tailed geckos around the house and outdoor kitchen. Really fun housemates and they eat the roaches. The reason I'm asking for the vipers, is in case they get too close and dont want to leave on their own. Usually I can prod them with a stick and direct them back into the forest, but I had a case of a very stubborn one that stayed around the living space for a long time.
>>4782080I get the principle of treadmilling, just have trouble with the step between snek on the ground and snek in my hands :)I'm currently keeping my distance from vipers, just want to eventually be able to move them if necessary. The locals just kill them. I'd rather be able to relocate.
>>4782086aren't both of those mostly arborial spazzes? I wouldn't be surprised if you're having a hard time handling flightly snakes, hence my comparison for nerodia (water snakes) as they are incredibly spastic/flighty and get nervous easily. In any case, you're going to have to learn the specific species habits and learn how to tell if the snakes stressed or not. I assume you're more offering the snake to move onto your hand rather than try to grab it from above/below.
>>4782096The cat eyes snakes are moving on the ground quite a bit and its the species I see the most. The parrot snake should be mostly aborial, but that one came straight into the kitchen one day.I try to move slow, not be threatening and not just grab them. Pick them up with a stick around mid section and let them slide onto a finger, but they always freak out on contact with the hand. I guess I'll keep trying and learn about how they react.
>>4781799anoles in the wild eat a lot of really small bugs too, crickets may be on the large side. frequently I'll see our local anoles snacking on 40+ gnats or similar sized 'small' insects.
>>4782068easiest lizard imo is cresties/gargs. no live feeders needed, no additional heat needed, only thing is they need misting but you can set up an auto mister for like $40. and unlike a lot of mist-required reptiles they will also use a water bowl so you have a backup water source if a mister fails.Most reptiles in general will be OK without heat for a day as long as your home stays in the upper 60s. Generally tropical/humid reptiles are less temp sensitive than desert stuff that requires oven tier temps.
>>4781474How can I make a minipond to attract frogs to my garden?
>>4782122The only thing I've caught him eating were fruit flies and bean beetles (i tend to feed him a little bit of every feeder I have), so he definitely also likes small prey items. The problem with that is that he doesn't seem to actively hunt them down a lot, or see them well from a distance. Granted, he may just be hunting the stragglers in the viv while I'm at work or something. Would explain why I still saw dark parts of his shit even when I wouldn't see him eat.
>>4782163Ponds are pretty simple from what I understand, dig big hole, fill with plastic liner and clay, throw a good layer of soil back in to create mud at the bottom for critters.You'll probably want a filter though, unless you're okay with a stagnant swamp puddle
>>4782163>>4782258Looks pretty easy, just a fair amount of work digging pits and humping rocks.https://youtu.be/P3d7DeNmiko
>>4782126wtf they are asking the equivalent of like $8k for those in my cuntry, importing is forbiddenthey look amazing tho
>>4782474where? it shouldn't last if you have some in the country and breeding is legal though, cresties in particular are pretty prolific breeders. They were pricy in the early 00s here but now you can easily find crested geckos for like $40. Gargs are still usually well over $100 though.
>>4782163Most important thing is to have your pond go below the local frost line or your frogs will freeze to death hibernating.
Need help identifying these. Found in an old fountain in Southeast Florida.
>>4782951Them are tad poles
>>4782951Look like invasive snakeheads, better kill em.
>>4783189I suspected there was next to no chance they were native. Feelsbadman
>>4783207Don't be retarded anon, snakeheads are (distinctive looking) fish. Your tadpoles are hard to identify - they're not cane toads, and they don't look round enough to me to be Cuban tree frogs, so they're not the two main invasive suspects. Just raise them, and then keep them, and it won't matter.It doesn't really matter anyways, they're mass spanwers. You took six out of potentially hundreds in a single, small vernal pool. Just enjoy your frogs.
>>4783217The situation is that they're probably going to get killed so I wanted to know if they were invasive and could be left alone or worth gathering up as many as I could. I took a few to identify them.
>>4783207Please anon I was kidding.
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I am once again considering a leopard gecko but terrified the novelty will wear off and I will be stuck buying/raising live insects for a pet that no longer brings me joy for the next 20 years. I have had insect eaters in the distant past (Water dragon, newts) and liked them, but I just have snakes and aquarium fish and its so low maintenance its unreal. The plants are more of a pain in the ass than the snakes are.
>>4783533They live for 20 years? You’re right, that’s a pretty big decision to make, best to think about it carefully
>>4783533It's good that you even think about it that hard to begin with.My biggest problem with leos (and most geckos in general) is their tendency to be nocturnal.
He finally ate for just the second time this calendar year and it was only a hopper when he had been on small adult miceBut it's better than nothing, I was really getting worried with how skinny he was lookingAlso wtf is this behavior
>>4783654>Also wtf is this behaviorSnakes don't really acknowledge the laws of gravity in a normal way.
Well /herp/ i plan om getting another reptile/amphibian. Budget would be about 2-3k for animal+ enclosure+setupAny recomendations? also upkeep cost is not a problem unless the creature eats for insane amounts of money (200+/month)
>>4783764Gu or if you want to go even larger then Asian Water or Black throat Monitor
Caught this angry lil snapper in the stream, can we get mspaintanon in here
>>4783843Cute. I'm gonna go look for more tree frogs, all the ones I've seen so far have been green but I hear plenty more other calls so there must be other species nearby.
I didnt get to meet Emily at the expo today. Line was way too long. Well it wasn't long long, but it took longer because people were giving them stuff and shit. But let's just say that the people who arrived at 10 AM were still waiting at 4pm.
>>4783764big fukken frog
Just some more green tree frogs.
>>4782951Did some studying and I think they're cane toads. Shit sucks.
>>4783962Cane toad tadpoles are black
>>4783962they're probably some species of tree frog going by their eyes
What do you love most about reptiles/amphibians?
>>4783764Your options are so insanely broad with those criteria, so I’ll say big fukken frog
>>4784134Frog 2 tegu 1 o shid am i gona have to get bull frog am i not /an/ gona wait and see here
>>4784141I'll throw my vote in for a fuckoff large planted tank with firebelly toads or something
>>4784018That they are cute, and look cool. Subsequently because of such and being lonely living by myself once I get back from my trip to Europe I might get a bluetongue skink.
>>4784018Reptiles look like living mosaics and they are very zen. Amphibians are completely bizarre looking yet harmless unless you put them in your mouth like a retard, which I find charming. None of them make loud annoying sounds like parrots or dogs.
Got a new enclosure for my hognose and it's been a night and change in behavior, he's way more active and exploring instead of permanently burrowed and it's really cool to see.
>>4784018They look cool and some can do cool stuff. Sucks that the coolest ones are hard to get a hold of
just shed
>>4783843looks like a musk turtle, verifying now.
>>4784524if you didn't release him I would be interested in him, if he is a musk.
>>4783843if you didn't release him and he is a musk, I would be interested in a barter.
>>4784544Buttsects4turtles.com
>>4783967>>4783970They were jet black in natural sunlight and their tail fins are indeed clear.
Vespucci
>>4784689froug
>>4784694
>>4784587cute snack
Hey, is it ok if I use super glue to seal a corner on my boa constrictor's enclosure? The silicone came out and I can't find any that doesn't have anti-fungal chemicals in it.
>>4785001Superglue is completely inert once dried, fishlads use it for aquaria. Just make sure it is fully dried before you put them back.
Whats this little fellaMidwest
>>4785272Snapping turtle
>>4785272painted turdle
>>4785001GE silicone1 should be available at any big box hardware store, and it's just silicone and salicylic acid (which is why is smells like the world's worst salad dressing). if you're looking at the label and seeing "mold resistant" or something instead of checking out the material safety data sheet for the product you might be being mislead, because pure silicone is, by itself, already mold resistant.
>>4785272Painted looks correct. I'm glad you guys are getting out there and seeing field herps.Price unrel
Anyone keep reptiles in outdoor enclosures?
>>4784493What did you change up?
>>4785315Weird lizard.
My leopard gecko has been pooping only urates with no shit the last 3 or 4 times, about a week now. He still eats though and is mostly normally active, although he's getting close to a shed now, so he is less active today. I've increased his humidity a lot for the past 2 days but still no shit. Can he be constipated if still eating normally and pooping urates regularly? I noticed the urates are more yellow than usual.When should I start getting worried? He's on paper towel btw
>>4785369Maybe low heat? I'd think that would lower appetite, though?
>>4785325yes, it's the best way to keep rock iguanas (and probably a majority of reptiles available in the pet trade)
>>4785378His heating has not changed and it's only getting warmer outside. Forgot to mention that he's only ate mealworms for over a month now, since he suddenly stopped wanting to eat dubia and I don't have many other options. I dust all the food with calcium+d3+multivitamin
>>4785384may still have an obstruction, undigested chitin can do that. give him a warm water bath? that can stimulate poops in a LOT of critters, and at the very least give him some extra hydration for the shed if he drinks. Just be prepared to swap out a clean bath once he shits in it, you dont want him stewing in that.
>>4785401>warm waterUh, be careful about this. 'warm' in human terms is uncomfortably hot for a reptile. If you want to give the leo a soak you want the water to feel lukewarm tepid at most. If you have an infrared thermometer go no higher than 90 F.
>>4785342Just the tank size and a couple of decorations for enrichment, went from 15 gal to exo terra medium low. I think where I was keeping him might have an effect too, he used to be on the floor but I keep him on my nightstand now
>>4785493Well yeah you obviously want to shoot for a few degrees below basking temp. It's also a good idea to keep soaks short because unless youre soaking BIG animals you're not working with a lot of water volume (for something like a leopard gecko we're talking maybe less than an inch of water), which means the water will get cold pretty quickly. Like 10-15 minutes at most. And OF COURSE supervised the whole time
>>4785315>Painted looks correct. I'm glad you guys are getting out there and seeing field herps.Little dude was in my yard, strange place to see them it wasn't really close to water at all. Least couple hundred feet.Anything you can do to help them or best to just leave alone? (Sadly had to get in his face for the pic)
>>4785493Thinking about the judge Alex episode when someone sued a caterer for a wedding because the chicken was coldAnd the caterer smugly said the thermometer said the chicken was 90 degreesAnd judge Alex said well if my body is 98 degrees, then chicken that's 90 degrees would be cold, and he ruled against themBut lol is that even how it works? Because 90 degrees of air temp feels warm as fuck despite being lower than body temp
This Gumbo my first pet hes a southern toad. Very photogenic, he has lots of good pictures.
>>4786366So stoic.
>>4786366Qrd of setup? Does he live underground or do you see him often? It's toad season around me and my toddler loves frogs and I've got a spare couple planted but un-crittered terrariums around, so I'm curious...
>albino clawed frog was perfectly fine two days ago>yesterday it suddenly wasnt able to move its back legs and kept having spasms>died this morning>look it up and turns out that this is a relatively common thing that happens to albino clawed frogs because of how inbred they areFuck bros, I still have another albino that's fine right now but I'm only going to buy normal colored ones from now on.
>>4786344The medium changes a lot too, your body gives up heat much more easily in water than it does through open air, therefore making it FEEL colder, despite the actual temperature. Also worth noting that the greater difference in temperature increases the rate of heat transfer.Thermodynamics are fun.
>>4786344Skin temperature and core body temperature are not the same. Shoot yourself in the arm with the aforementioned infrared thermometer and you'll see its quite cooler than what you get from a thermometer under your tongue. If your skin is 87 degrees and it gets hit with 90 degree air it'll feel a little warm.Sidenote: a caterer publicly admitting their food was served at 90 degrees is probably not going to be a caterer for very much longer and retarded besides, that is quite literally dead center in the temperature range in which food should never be served.
>>4786481you have a toddler? what store do they sell those at?
>>4786481I'd suggest scooping up some tadpoles, raising them and then releasing the toadlets. Gonna be more exciting for your toddler to experience their metamorphosis.
>>4786579Wayfair
>>4786593So much this, I did this with my mom when I was little, probably one of the most important formative memories of my entire simple life.
Found this lil fella outside my garage. He's harmless right?
>>4786770>He's harmless right?Yes. Some kind of garden variety colubrid.
>>4786770gopher snake I think
>>4786770Pituophis are notably grumpy dicks and like to larp as rattlesnakes with rapid tail waggles, but yeah he wont hurt anybody bigger than a mouse.
>>4786822Getting some tincs this summer and im wondering what plants i should put in whit them? The enclosufe will be made out of glass and about 100×60×60cm
>>4786941Tincts like low bushy plants they can hide under and climb in, I've got some sort of weird creeping fern that they love. Philodendrons also do excellently in the same vivarium conditions as dart frogs (almost as if theyre from the same biosphere), so thats a nice way to add more color to the setup too.
Is this stuff fine if I don't want to make my own substrate for a bearded dragon?(As a side note, the first image on amazon is a 10 pound bag, the second is a 20lb bag, and the description says 20. I hope 20 pounds is enough. I don't really have a frame of reference for substrate)
>>478702520 pounds of substrate is probably not going to be enough, provided it's a properly sized enclosure for a beardie and you're putting a useful substrate layer in.just go to your big box home improvement store of choice, grab a bag each of pic related and then top with and inch or two of that one.if you want to be a HUGE GUY you can do like this guy did while you're at it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgb-Dipr5g
>>4787034Also throw in some excavator clay to help burrows keep shape
>>4785369updatehe shat a huge log then proceeded to shed immediately. I caught him eating the paper towel after he was done with the skin lol retard
>>4787077Glad he's well, anon. Hope your little guy continues to enjoy good health.
>>4786770No. Touch it and you die. Instantly.
>>4787077I love reptile shedding. It’s so cool
>>4787034Don't do play sand, it's super fine to the point its dusty and can fuck up your lizard's eyes or lungs. I learned the hard way and had hatchlings randomly die or keeping their eyes shut constantly. You need coarse river sand like pic related. It's free if you take a bucket or two from a local river or stream
>>4787085fine sand is good when mixed with soil and doesn't cause dustcoarse sand can cause intestinal blockage if eaten which is a risk
>>4787085>>4787089you can also wash washed play sand and get more dust out of it.
look at him climbin his lil branch. not a big climb by any means
>Keeping snakes in racks for their entire lives is fine>Snakes are brainless biorobots without emotions >There is such a thing as a too big enclosure>Snakes won't make use of any vertical space so feel to make their enclosures as flat as you need them to be>Snakes don't have the capacity for any sort of conscious thought>It's fine if your snake is constantly having seizures and finding it difficult to eat. That's perfectly healthy.And what's funny is that all of these "facts" are spread by people who love snakes. I can't quite wrap my head around why so many average snake keepers seem to want to put down their own animals. Don't they interact with the animals they keep?
>>4787431>average snake keepersYou mean "breeders with a perverse incentive to neglect their animals because economies of scale (haha because reptile) make it unviable as anything but a hobby, especially if they're doing shit like pyramid skeeming with morphs." Most people that actually give a fuck about their animals know better.
Is it okay to keep feeder rodents in racks?
>>4787443I've seen plenty of non-breeders spread those myths, especially the "don't give your snake an enclosure that is too large".
Hello do any of you have any experiance whit boiga dendrophilias? Im considering getting one but im a bit worried about the potency of their venom as people dont seem to be able to agree on how strong the venom is.
>>4787460Generally that is just someone bamboozled by the “Appeal to Authority” fallacy.
>>4787492>boiga dendrophilias? IENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT
>>4787492It's both very weak (don't need to see doc), and on rear-facing fangs, so you're unlikely to ever be envenomed, and even if you are you won't need antivenin.
>>4787460Thats just what happens when normies get all of their info from youtube channels that look like this.It was either that or "the guy in petco said" for them, they dont count.
>>4787535Mangrove snake
>>4787607>Most dangerous reptiles>Ball python headReptiletube truly is a place.
>>4787451No. Rats need more space than snakes.
I wish the invert general could live. I wanna talk about tarantulas and answer tarantula questions
>>4787677Its kinda heartwarming to see brian barcyzyzyyxycuuuxcckkjyyszk's kid carrying on his father's legacy of just being the absolute fucking worst, though.
>>4787698Think we should just have a terrarium general for all land critters desu. Aquarium general already exists so don't see why we can have /terrag/.>>4787731Not even cancer can stop the eternal animal abuse youtube grift.
>>4787674Ah
>>4787731Oh God
>>4787607>>4787731>mfw faggots like this have millions of dollars at their disposal and all they do is rack breed the same fucking snakes that are already oversaturated in the hobby>mfw nobody is bothering to import cool shit from overseas or establish breeding operations for rare expensive herps Fuck I wish I could go back ten years when reptile expos weren't just ball pythons and leopard geckos everywhere
>>4787934>>4787900>>4787731he even does the same "performative sadface" baiting. cats in the cradle, etc.
>>4787698>>4787780I could get behind it, though I think there’s very little interest in it here sadly like you said
>>4783533>leopard gecko>no longer brings me joyimpossible
Any bearded dragon tips
>>4788197Tips for what exactly? Care? Feeding? Cleanup? Breeding? The best beardie care and info video I can link you is close to four hours long.
>>4787934There's plenty of cool stuff still being imported. Pet keepers have created a culture where there's no drive to keep and breed wild caught animals.
>>4788310I also think the problem is that whenever they do get imported they're really fucking expensive, so nobody wants to risk wasting a load of money and thus a captive population never gets established. Ironically the problem a decade or two ago was that these herps were so cheap to import that nobody bothered breeding them, just look at firebelly toads for example.But I still don't get why nobody imports the captive bred herps from Europe that we don't have in the states. We wouldn't even need to deal with the problem of parasites and disease like with wild caughts.
>>4788275Can you post that vid? I want to do even more research before I begin my next viv project.
>>4788545https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oby6d3YxYYY
>>4788053I actually did decide against it and just set up an arid terrarium for plants only to get the Mojave childhood nostalgia out of my system. But I am going to try setting up a praying mantis enclosure to see how trips to buy live bugs impact my lifestyle in a shorter time frame than decades of a reptile's life.
>>4789013Holy shit is that the coolest mantis ever or what
>>4789013Mantis is definitely a good choice then. Little guys only live for a year usually.
>>4789013If you want to keep an animal death feigning beetles are a good low maintenance choice for an arid terrarium. I'd recommend something like a scorpion but it'd probably ruin the plants with their burrows
>>4781799Update on this guy. He's pretty much dead.I thought he'd start recovering after he ate the worm, but he only got worse, he started eating less and less, and has basically been ignoring even small bite sized prey even as it walks right past his nose, he's been lethargic lately and just closing his eyes.This morning I found him on the ground of his enclosure and basically didn't react as I scooped him up to try to give him a short soak in some water. I put him back in the same spot and am basically just waiting for him to die at this point.Christ, this feels like shit. I honestly don't know what went wrong, was he sick? Were my mistings not enough to keep him hydrated? Were my feeders not nutritious enough? Did he not feel safe enough in the enclosure to explore around and hunt?
>>4789620Sorry for your loss. Wild caught (as most anoles are) is always a bit of a crapshoot.
>>4789629I don't want to completely assume this was the case, I recently went back to the same pet store where I got him, and one of his tank mates was still in there, and he looked healthy enough, maybe still a slight bit on the skinny side, but they were juveniles, so I think they just sort of look like that. But I suppose it's still possible that he was always doomed. Either way, after he dies, I'm going to just let the viv cycle for a while, not sure if I'll get another animal to put in there. I want to really reflect on the enclosure and make sure I didn't fuck something up when making it initially.
>>4789620>>4789632These things always result in some trial and error I feel. It’s definitely a good idea to go back and retrace your steps when putting it together
>>4789901I also want to deconstruct it, remove the substrate, disinfect the wood, rinse off the plants, etc. Just in case he DID have some sort of parasite and I don't just have a death trap terrarium.
Ball python have been fed twice but not shat yet. Is it time for the good ol bath?
Female is starting to become really aggressive during feeding, I usually drop half a dozen on opposite ends of the enclosure every 2 days so the male gets a chance but sometimes it doesn't work out so good.Wat do? Separate? There's only the two of them. Larger tank? Currently 60L
>>4790317Absolutely separate, those guys will literally rip each other apart if you let them.
>>479031760L for two animals that size is pretty small, that could be contributing. Double the size at least, if you upgrade. Or separate them.
>>4790317Are those salamanders?
>>4790629Nta, but they are fire belly newts, more aquatic than salamanders.Speaking of, if I were to want to set up a palludarium, what herp would properly use both water and land features?
>>4790777fire-bellied toads
>>4790777Anoles. Only Anolis aquaticus will hunt underwater, but there are videos of brown anoles snatching guppies out of container ponds. You could use cherry shrimp instead of guppies.
>>4790347>>4790415Thanks for the input. I'll sort out a larger tank this weekend.
>>4790317GIVE HIM THE CHAIR
>>4790777if you're in Australia you could do water skinks, if you're doing a gigantic paludarium you could do a false water cobra or a caiman lizard
>>4791179>water skinksJesus fucking christ look at this adorable little shit. Goddamn it australia share the wealth.
>>4791179God I wish, I'd have a whole-ass herp sanctuary if I was in the upside down land.
>>4791216So do they live in water or what?
>>4791305Near it, subsisting on the bugs/soft bodied inverts near creeks and streams.
Rate his set up
>>4790777Vampire crabs
>>4791305They live mostly around water rather than in it but are perfectly happy diving in when they have to
>>4791653Well since I am not versed enough in /herp/ and can only go by their thumbnail, I will rate it faggot/10 based solely on the thumbnail.
I think I'm going to get a corn snake at the expo this weekend. how do people feel about their morphs? I really like the charcoal and lavender ones
>>4792208I have yet to see a corn snake morph that looks better than an Okeeteelike what is even the point of the charcoal morph, just get a grey ratsnake
>>4792208Wild type corn snakes are beautiful animals, I don't see the appeal of the weird looking ones. But corns and small colubrids in general are based, go for it if you can give it a lot of space, because it'll use it.
>>4792242I like grey and corns are just generally more accessible, no problem getting another kind of rat snake but an expecting to find lots of good options for corns
>>4792246I work at a pet store and coworkers are offering some tanks they aren't using, so getting a big setup shouldn't be a problembeen thinking about a snake for a long time, I think I am finally ready :)
Tong feeding a hognose is such a shit showRemind me again how these survive in the wild?When it's not completely missing the strike its hitting the tongs and even me onceAnd then without fail it'll make a bite sideways and spend the next 25 minutes trying to straighten it out
>>4792208Go with whatever you like best.
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>>4792392Are these the ones that play dead and smell like shit to sell it lol
>>4792616They spray musk, and also bite the insides of their mouths to make them bloodyAnd they are soooo dead that if you flip them they will immediately flip to their back again
>>4792690>>4792616Yes
>>4781474What's the best reptile for a little diy greenhouse?
>>4792911define littledefine greenhousedefine temperatures and humidityif you just want something for pest control and to say "wow cool lizard" little house geckos are good choices for a greenhouse that stays at least room temperature or slightly below yearround. I also like mantises for that purpose which are even cooler than lizards but only live for about a year.
>>4792911Wall lizards. If you're in the US there's probably a population of them nearby, just go catch a few. If you're in Europe then they're already everywhere.
>>4792915>define littlesomething like pic related>define greenhousewas thinking in converting pic related from late fall until early spring into a hybrid greenhouse, so it's not gonna be fully covered.>>4792935If you're in Europe then they're already everywhere.yes they're indeed everywhere here in south italy and some house geckos can be as big as normal sized tokay geckos
>>4792935Always greenhouse guy here. What if release this species (Lacerta bilineata) in my area (apulia). They're not an exotic species where i live but they suffer from habitat fragmentation
>>4792890lol drama queenmy hogger (subadult male) is great with handling and has never played dead or musked on mejust $100 toolove my lil champ
>>4792946first that's really more of a hutch, so it would be like a terrarium or are you doing it indoors? are you trying to grow something? usually i think of a greenhouse as something dedicated to growing plants, so i figured you meant a larger building and just have some reptiles chilling in there>siciloidgreen lacerta. simple as. they'll even do fine outside year round. just make sure there's a screen lid so they get UV. You live in a climate that isn't inherently hostile to reptiles so you have a lot of options for outdoor keeping too. Lot of tortoises will do well in that climate too and they're nice for mowing the yard, much easier to contain and stop from eating your flowers compared to a goat or something>>4792948>actually apuliaoiddreadful. but yeah, natives are always good options if legal and not venomous. It's not legal to keep anything native in my part of the US but if it were I totally would. and yes it is inherently fucking retarded that we can't keep natives because fish and wildlife is terrified of billybob's exotics inbreeding them with retarded morph genes and releasing it into the wild genepool where it would be quickly filtered out by natural selection yet I can order enough goldfish to turn an entire watershed into murky muck no questions asked.
>>4792690>>4792890That’s kinda cute kekGuess it has to do when you’re so tiny and don’t have much in the way of defense mechanisms
>>4793121That's also why their patterns mimic rattlesnakes in the areas they liveDo you know who I am? Do you Realize WHAT I AM CAPABLE OF!!! *dies*
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I accidentally bought the wrong size feeder and by some miracle of nature my snake managed to swallow it. Lil nigga looks like a tube sock stretched over a potato right nowI am not looking forward to the dump that's gonna come out after this oneI think it's gonna be a deep clean afterwards
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>>4793258The look on the lizard's face at the end is priceless.
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>>4793278yeah
>>4793110>It's not legal to keep anything native in my part of the US but if it were I totally would. and yes it is inherently fucking retarded that we can't keep natives because fish and wildlife is terrified of billybob's exotics inbreeding them with retarded morph genesThe law isn't to stop some kid from taking a couple toad tadpoles and keeping them in his fish tank, it's to stop poachers from catching every snake in an area and destroying the local population, which is especially a problem with how fragmented everything is so once those herps are gone they will never come back. In my state it's the pinesnake that's getting assraped by this along with wild corn snakes.If you ask a FWS guy if you can keep a fence lizard you caught from the wild he'll say to stop wasting his time. They don't care about that, they focus on the people catching them by the dozen and selling them.
>>4781474URGENTBaby ball python not eating. Possibly sick.She’s been underweight since I got her as a yearling (breeder was feeding her once every 3 weeks for some reason).2 weeks ago she was slightly underweight still but was gaining weight compared to when I got her I missed last weeks feeding because personal retardation. Just went to feed and she’s super underweight suddenly almost skin and bones backbone visible sides sunken in.Tried to feed her and she struck, missed, struck a second time with moving the fuzzy around, missed again.Then she lost interest. I tried warming a new one up, same shit she wasn’t interested.I hated to try it but I attempted an assist feed and she wouldn’t take it spit it immediately.Idk what to do. She drank some water after putting her back in her enclosure which I take as a good sign. But fuck I’m worried. I’m going to leave her be tonight and tomorrow morning attempt another feeding, if she doesn’t take it I’ll go get a live fuzzy or a pinkie at least (shops are closed or I’d do that right now).I’m worried sick she won’t make it. Should I even try to feed another thawed tomorrow or go straight for live? She’s only ever had thawed. Shops that have smaller sized live mice won’t open until 10am btw, I think that’s an appropriate enough window to try a thawed at 5am and if she doesn’t eat then a live about 5 hours later.But if none of that works what do I do? I understand these guys can fuck off from food for a while but normally when I’ve seen that they don’t lose drastic amounts of body weight. My husbandry is good but I’m now worried she could be sick. No mucus no wheezing so idk what it could be. I don’t want this snake to die on me.
>>4793295I thought it was a big lizard
>>4793321She ate one of the fuzzies. I left both of the ones I thawed over the warm spot. Just checked and she was mid deep throat on one. I’ll leave the other in there if she eats it fine. If not cool, but I’m gonna get her on an every 4 days schedule until she’s of healthy weight.
>>4793321>>4793365what are your temps like? I don't own a ball but have worked with them and have been helping a friend with her picky eater, and I find that temps can be a factoreven if your numbers are good and you have your warmspot, they might not have "discovered" where to hang out and regulate. Worth looking into and making some changes if it continuesbut I'm really happy to hear she ate :)
>open up the viv this morning to to up the water basin>one of my tincts squeezes out from under a magnolia leaf to investigate the sound>stares, incredulously, as it was not bugsI love these little dipshits so much
>>4793321>Throw ball python in trash>Get a boaThat should fix it.
My bearded dragon is dying. I feel awful. She is very special to me.
>>4793635Always a rough one, my boy died last year, didn't make it through brumation. All I could think was "shit, should I have woken him up? Should I have taken him to a vet the moment I suspected something?".Just do your best to make sure she's as comfortable as possible as she passes.
I'm at a loss as to what's ideal to keep my leopard geck on, substrate-wise. Most recently, I've been keeping her on that excavator clay stuff, but she's been digging around and turning it into something more loose and grainy. She seems content with it, as she's very active and makes full use of her 40gal wide, but I'm wondering if I'm still not pulling off something ideal. My primary worry is, of course, impaction with anything she breaks off. What do you use for your leos?
>>4793745I don't have a Leo, but I've always been told that, so long as you make sure your animal is properly hydrated/gets her proper temperatures/is fed properly, etc., impaction simply won't happen.However, I suggest you mix your substrate with organic topsoil and a fine sand, and try to keep the deeper layers slightly moist, this will help burrows keep shape and prevent dust.Again though, I don't have a Leo, so I can't speak with much authority on this.
>>4793321Have you had the ball tested for parasites at any point?
>>4793666thanks satan. yeah its rough, feeling a lot of guilt.
>>4793666they say faustian bargains are dumb in general and even dumber when bargaining for life, but man idek
>>4793635I'm sorry anon. I've never had one but they always seem very personable and charming compared to other reptiles.
>>4792208For me it's the palmetto.Honestly tho they all look good (except for the scaleless morphs they look like wrinkly sausages)
>>4794419Damn, you’re right, it is pretty gorgeous
Why the fuck has the entire reptile keeper hobby become Bearded dragons, Leopards geckos and ball python morphs?Is it really just because these species are easy as fuck to breed?
>>4795150pyramid skeems, son
>>4795150Who are the primary morphfags, buying into a pyramid scheme they think is going to anything but rob them blind?>
>>4795150you're out of the loop, the newest skeem is in cresties and gargs, probably because they dont have the electricity requirement for heat and eat powder.
>>4795183they're not even close to the amount of ball pythons at expos. it's crazy, I made a point not to get a ball because there are just way too many being bredlove creatives and gargs, though, but sometimes gargs hiss at me :(
>>4795352I dunno man, I went to an (admittedly somewhat smaller) expo earlier in the year and pretty much every table had at least a handful of gargs.
>>4795152Lol>>4795183Who the fuck is dropping that kind of money for that thing
>>4795422Hoarders, people who want to feel speshiul and people who want to start their own Pyramid skeem
>>4795422In theory, it's an "investment animal," which is pretty much just a pyramid scheme where you pay out the nose for a morph producer so you can make animals that others can pay the same amount so they can do likewise.In practice, it's a combination of quite literally counting your geckos before they hatch, and pic related.
>>4795183I don't get crested gecko or boa morphs. They all look the same to me.
>>4795589At least in the case of crested geckos, there are very few actual genetic morphs capable of producing valid offspring. Virtually all of what's seen is just a result of line breeding.
>>4795183I love how it literally just looks like a regular crestie too
>>4795183>20kWho the fuck pays for these? You could get multiple pairs of boelens pythons for that
>>4795622Skeemerz
>>4795622>can do literally anything with 20k>can import a bunch of exotic shit from africa or wherever and set up an entire breeding operation>decide to just buy a gecko that's slightly more orange than normalThe wrong types of people have too much money
I'm trying to get my New Caledonian geckos more inclined towards eating their repashy/pangea diet.My crested gecko is obsessed with insects. I can only really fool him into eating repashy actively by scooping it on the end of my tongs since it reminds him of bugs, or by dunking insects in it like it's batter.For my leachianus, he just ignores it overnight. I'm almost forced to hold him like a baby and 'bottle' feed him out of a 0.5oz cup, but also will not eat any bug I've ever offered him. Have any of you guys ever had picky eaters with your New Caledonians? I've run the gambit on the different flavors.
>>4794756So did you end up getting a corn anon?
Thinking of a garbage bin snake for when my ball python goes on a hunger strike so I don't waste rats. Right now I'm thinking of a BCI, Jungle Carpet or Dumeril's. I'm iffy on BCI cause a lot of their sizes depends on locality and if I end up getting something that gets pretty big, I most likely am not upgrading from a 4x2x2.
>>4796804Bci gonna get obese as a garbage bin
>>4795183Meanwhile in the real world
>>4796857I mean I don't intend to try feeding every week if they're on a strike. I tried every other week at first, then I switched to monthly. My BP finally ate after 6 months.
>>4795762just starve them. pangea is more palatable than repashy, i find the watermelon flavor is the favorite of all of my lizards probably because its the sweetest. so I would provide that every other day for like two weeks and cut bugs and reintroduce bugs once a week once they start taking to it. this assumes adult lizards you're not breeding. starving a little wont hurt them and they can go a week or so without food without suffering much. add a dab of honey if you want to make it even tastier. also some seem to have different preferences for consistency, one of my males refuses to eat if its watery. if i leave it for a day he'll eat it the next day when it dries out a bit.
>>4797067Not that guy, but would adding some aromatic, ripened fruit also help?
I'd like another large intelligent lizard but my Blue tounge is super needy as is.
>>4797067They're both just about to become yearlings, actually. The longest I've gone, originally, was about a week and a half for the crested when I just got it. Nothing.
>>4797773Adding information, because I'm a retard.The crested is underweight, at least I think. Measured today at just under 17 grams. Best guess, he's ~9 months old.
>>4796804please do not put any of those animals in a 4 foot enclosure
>>4798543what was their problem???
What are some species you wish more people were breeding?
>>4798783These niggas. In the early '00s they were $5/ea at big box stores, now they're like $120/ea online when you can even find them.
>>4798783Banded geckos.
>>4798783Lizard name?
>>4799426Sphenomorphus muelleri
>>4799430It looks cool but it's probably like other skinks that just sit under a log all day and you end up with an empty terrarium.I hope people start breeding and keeping more diurnal species. Jewelled lacertas is one that's got popular witihin the last years but still so many interesting species like lacertids (pic related) and the fence lizard family. The issue is that you can't keep them in dark shoe boxes so that's why nobody wants to keep them.
I want a Malaysian river toad who's not been exposed to aids and ass worms but it seems like most sellers say they gave them generic de wormer if any treatment at all.
>never musks>never plays dead>takes pinkies without issue>poop smells no worse than other sneks
