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Australian Shepherd Edition

cont. from >>4770582


Gear

Ray Allen Manufacturing: Tactical Dog Gear | Police and Military K9 (https://www.rayallen.com)

Kurgo: High Quality Outdoor Adventure Dog Gear Products (https://www.kurgo.com)

AVOID: Weight Pull/Sledding Harnesses as They Encourage Pulling Which Can Lead To Death

ALWAYS: Size Correctly


Trainers

Tom Davis (R+, R-, P+, P-, EC, PR): https://www.youtube.com/@tomdavisofficial
Joel Beckman (R+, R-, P+, P-, GL): https://www.youtube.com/@BDTraining
Larry Krohn (R+, R-, P+, EC): https://www.youtube.com/@lklencho
McCann Dogs (R+, P+, P-, GL): https://www.youtube.com/@McCannDogs
Emily Larlham (R+, P-): https://youtube.com/@kikopup?si=Rc-MXWZEWBxB864m

AVOID: Television Trainers Like Cesar Millan and Zak George

R+: Positive Reinforcement, R-: Negative Reinforcement, P+: Positive Punishment, P-: Negative Punishment, EC: E-Collar, PR: Prong Collar, GL: Gentle Leader/Head Collar


Nutrition

https://wsava.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Selecting-a-pet-food-for-your-pet-updated-2021_WSAVA-Global-Nutrition-Toolkit.pdf

AVOID: Boutique Brands and Foods That Aren’t Labeled as Complete Dog Foods
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My dog has started chasing cars on walks. Pretty frustrating. I've had to put the leash right beside me now and I'm getting yanked by him frequently.
At least he doesn't do it when we run but he still falls behind.
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>Attention whore dogfaggot spams threads because of their internal drama
This is why all of /an/ hates dogfags.

Go back to your containment thread until it's on page 10.
>>4783136
>>4783136
>>4783136
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>>4787484
Pull his leash in the opposite direction and start rewarding him for turning and eventually for giving you eye contact.

>>4787488
Catfags don't type like this, you're probably a coping former OP.
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>spams his general as part of an argument
catfriends just dont do this
dogfaggots are the most pathetic creatures on /an/

op is the cat hate schizo btw
http://185.10.68.107:1776/bannum/1261617/
https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/4764282/#4770590
"Can’t hear you. Your cat is yowling in pain under my tires." - the cat hating schizo that owns this dog
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>>4787498
Lol, I never typed that.
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>Dogfags are spamming their general
>AGAIN
THIS IS THE THIRD FUCKING TIME
THE THIRD
FUCKING
TIME

WE DO NOT NEED TWO /DOGFUCKERS/ ON PAGE ONE
WE DO NOT NEED TWO ON THE INDEX
FUCK
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Smartest Dog Breeds Ranked by the AKCbased on how quickly dogs learn how to perform jobs (based on their instincts and natural abilities) and how motivated a dog is (based on their desire to please foremost)
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>>4787500
Its just the aussie guy, he's been having an autistic meltdown for weeks because he thinks a local husky owner is responsible for every bad thing ever said about australian shepherds

He most recently had a schizo freakout because they were called...
"Good pets"
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>>4787488
>>4787498
>>4787499
>>4787500
>>4787515
This is all just one control freak btw, excellent, informative, and quality OP.
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>>4787500
>>Dogfags are spamming their general
? there's one new thread, wtf are you crying about?
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>>4787519
Agreed. Nuclear meltdown occuring as we speak. Don't laugh your asses off to hard. Well done to whoever made this thread. A beautifully executed anti troll troll.
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>>4787541
I’m thinking true and based get your asses out the door
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>>4787478
>took some 7~ threads for fucking Cesar to be removed from the OP
You guys fucking suck at this
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>>4787500
TSMT
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>15 bumps from former OPs when they don't even post that often in their own ops

What triggered then this time?
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>>4787584
>fuckoff
Disengage, nobody is forcing you to type.
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Give your dogs a pat for me
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>>4787478
These are awful trainers who should be consulted as a last resort due to a dangerous or self-endangering dog

Otherwise using brutal methods like these can cause fallout, especially apathy and fear aggression

Also WSAVA is a corporate scam. Most of the world feeds their dogs table scrabs and they live 15+.
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>>4787589
I can do that for you.
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>>4787621
Based and true

There is no hard data to refute any of this, just short curated youtube clips (for the kind of person that believes anything they see or hear on the news)
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Seems like a dog park type of day.
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dog
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>>4787669
Highly based.
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GR CH 5X WEENIE v.s. B.O.A.S. Poodle (Bait Dog)
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This one's Carrot inspired.
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>>4787784
That beagle's in danger
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>>4787784
Toadline
Gatorline

Choose your early synapsid
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Reminder, the OP is a troll post, the real one is here
https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/4783136/#4783155
/dog/ clothing:
For work and play:
https://www.alpineoutfitters.net/
https://www.mtnridge.com/DOG-APPAREL_c_34.html
These harnesses are crash tested, but are too restrictive for exercise:
https://www.centerforpetsafety.org/test-results/harnesses/cps-approved-harnesses/
https://sleepypod.com/car-harnesses

/dog/ training:
https://www.youtube.com/@TrainingPositive
https://www.youtube.com/@kikopup
https://www.youtube.com/@zakgeorge
Be nice to /dog/s:
https://noelhoffmann.com/blog/the-case-against-using-aversive-training-methods/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1558787817300357
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7743949/

/dog/ breath freshening:
https://www.google.com/search?q=enzymatic+toothpaste+for+dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1PmzjSNEx4&t=90s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G9IBQRsiW0

/dog/ feeding:
Get the facts about the raw feeding myth:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC339295/
https://www.theveterinarynurse.com/content/clinical/educating-clients-about-raw-diets-and-the-associated-parasitic-risks/
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/animal-health-literacy/get-facts-raw-pet-food-diets-can-be-dangerous-you-and-your-pet
Quality dog food reviews here: https://files.catbox.moe/4qbv21.zip
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>>4787785
She's a basset.
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Exciting dog news: my new neighbor has a cute puppy and it licked the inside of my ear.
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>>4787794
Yeah why is this OP so retarded and preachy.
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>>4787794
Based! The H in husky stands for HIGH IQ!
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>>4787825
smug dog
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>>4787825
>Certified kanghound: SAY FREE PALESTINE
>Bernese/samoyed mix: h-hava nagila
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>>4787871
Internet trainer only gets results suited for instagram reels. Fallout is rarely immediate and abuse is not appropriate for reactivity.
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>>4787878
Agreed 100%. The dedicated /dog/ troll is the only one who posts that joke…

Don’t cause pain around anything you don’t want your dog to fear.
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>>4787872
gay
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Please describe how your dog greets you after you have been away from them for a while.

Mine: Ears pinned, tail wagging like crazy, little jumps wanting to jump on me, goes between my legs repeatedly, and then when I sit it's a full on assault of face licking, squirming around, cobbing, and this funny thing where he goes under my arm or head to lift it up with his nose. Usually lasts about 1 minute per hour I've been gone.
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>>4787743
Why would they do that…
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>>4787885p
Similar experience minus the cobbing. Do you have a Belgian Malinois or Shep?
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>>4787478
Just rescued my best friend from Addison's disease, and now he has the beginning of kidney disease. Wtf...
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>>4787922
The good news is it was caught reasonably early so diet adjustment and home care means he can still remain healthy. I'm just worried how long he has because of this.
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>>4787885
>WOOOWOOOOWOOOWOOOO
>grabs a toy
>also does this
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>>4787932
Oh who am I kidding there is no good fucking news. I should fucking shoot myself after he passes. I just can't take being alive anymore and watching everyone I love die.
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>>4787960
No anon. Its ok.
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>>4787922
Show me a pic of the doggo.
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>>4787963
>Its ok.
Thanks, I was hoping someone around me tell me that but it took an anon to say it. I don't know if I believe it to be true though.
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It's good to be back.
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>>4787887
Yes. I have to be careful or he will smash his forehead into my face, catch his canine in my nose, or bite me hard while cobbing. Worth it.

>>4787948
Nice and non-violent.
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>>4787973
Oh but the
>WOOWOOWOOWOOOO
Includes a
>*SNIFFFFFF SNIFFSNIFFSNIFF*
That gets kind of pushy
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>>4787982
Cheese check or is she making sure you haven't been with any other dogs?
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September 2nd
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Check out these puppy nubs
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>>4787922
>>4787932
sorry anon, that's rough
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>>4788071
The vet said at this stage it's nonfatal, but how do I make sure it stays that way? She wants him on a prescription diet, and I asked plenty of questions and googled even more, but if anything else I should know or you guys know and want to tell me, please share. Thanks so much.
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My dog chooses to sleep next to my mom's bed downstairs than on my bed upstairs when given the option, does she love her more than me? Is it just some other factor?
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>>4788055
It's called a gun you retard.
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>>4788055
Jannies are up early today. Howdy do?
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what's the deal with dog food? I don't own a dog but people ask me about it all the time at work, I want to learn from someone unbiased
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>>4788073
Kidney disease is almost always going to end badly. It's a horrible illness that strips your body of its ability to rid toxins from itself. Doggy dialysis will keep him going but only for so long since vets don't perform kidney transplants on dogs.
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>>4788120
What specifically do you want to know? There's a wide verity of types, from kibble, canned, raw to cooked.
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>>4788124
I know it's fucken crazy, I don't know what I am asking other than how do I make sure I'm not bullshitting when it comes to food.
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>>4788125
https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2016/12/questions-you-should-be-asking-about-your-pets-food/

https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2019/12/pet-food-decisions-how-do-you-pick-your-pets-food/

https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2021/11/whats-the-best-food-for-your-new-puppy/

https://petnutritionalliance.org/resources/pet-food-manufacturer-evaluation-report/

Read these blogs, and play around with the PNA food search tool so you can see what different companies do.
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>>4788129
thank you champ that's where I will start
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>>4787885
>Please describe how your dog greets you after you have been away from them for a while.
If by a while you mean 5 hrs max...
She usually spirals around me rubbing her head and then her whole body on my legs, nuzzling into me.
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>>4788121
Was the vet bullshitting me then when she said with the right diet the effects can be mitigated?
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>>4788170
She probably wasn't. If you feed your dog lots of salt, caffeine, or too much minerals can be hard on the kidneys.
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Standard poodle rules
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>>4788174
Thanks anon. I'll have to talk with her again. I was a little stunned at the vet. I don't want to over or under estimate his condition, but the vet gave a good prognosis in her own words.
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>>4787885
She woofs when she hears my car pull up. When I lived with my parents (where she still lives) she recognized the engine sound, but now she doesn't. When I open the door, she freezes for about 1 second, her home defense mode quickly being overpowered by her recognition of me. Her ears pin back and she rushes over to me with a little low-to-the-ground shimmy motion, and starts rubbing against my leg and sticking her head up for pats, which I then give a few before telling her "let me in!" She'll then back off a few steps so I can get through the door. Soon after, she'll flop on the floor and sweep the floor with her tail while she stares at me, until I come over which prompts her to roll on her back for her long-awaited belly rubs.
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>>4788129
>>4788125
Actually, pet nutrition is a crock of shit
>Every kibble is basically multivitamins + carcinogens
>Dogs fed table scrabs + fish guts live longer
If the HUMAN nutritionists cant even be right about something as simple as saturated fat and have to shriek "paradox! paradox!" when its proven wrong and they should have taken a whole diet approach, what do you expect of paid off animal nutritionists that are so on the corpo payroll they tell you to buy foods that contain meal, despite US rendering plants not being held to any purity or sanitary standards? Dog nutrition is over 60 years behind human nutrition. One day, in the 2100s, they will call food out on having residual petroleum products.

All kibble is roughly equally shit. Bodies are highly forgiving of "a heckin nutritional imbalance" unless there is a genetic defect/disease involved or it's severe. If you can afford it, feed your dog real food and never cook on high heat.
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>>4788189
Nice microchip
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>>4788125
>>4788237
If you want the best for your dog, listen to your vet. Dogs are individuals and there’s not one size fits all. There are reputable brands that hold the test of time and research though. The reason the common three companies (Purina, Royal Canin, and Hills) are recommended by vets is that they’re the only ones producing quality research and publishing it publicly.

Feed kibble, as long as it's good quality, complete diet that's appropriate for your dog's life stage you're golden.

You can get a lot of the same benefits of a custom diet by augmenting a primary kibble diet with fish oil and glucosamine with every meal and raw marrow bones (never rawhide or cooked), turkey necks, organ meat, or whole small fish as treats a few times a week.

The best foods are backed by science, facts, research, and feeding trials. These alternative food trends like to play on the idea that all of the big dog food producers are evil corps that feed your dogs shit for money and it’s all poor quality but they have the research and the feeding trials to back things up. trust facts not sensationalism that plays on the fear that you are harming your pet
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>>4788285
>the FDA has your best interests in mind tier post
Drink your glyphosphate, citizen. Rendered 4-D meat and styrofoam is healthy. The experts also recommend you smoke lucky strikes. America is always the first country to ask about what is safe for living things after all.
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>>4788285
Spoilers: The science and feeding trials last months and do not estimate things that actually matter, like carcinogenic activity and other toxins. It just tests for malnutrition after a few months and that's it.

Pet food is not held to anything resembling standards in the USA. It's not food. It's highly processed garbage (literally garbage, rotten or diseased meat, barrels of dead shelter pets, pieces of concrete that get kicked up when they bulldoze garbage into the grinder, etc). It's so processed dogs consume 30x more advanced glycation end products (carcinogens) than humans.
"Trust the experts, the heckin vets"
The vet world ultimately comes down to "its just an animal, not a shareholder"
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>>4788292
you cant feed your dog anything but kibble or they'll get a heckin nutrient imbalance. only highly educated dog experts who coincidentally shill the products of american conglomerates are smart enough to feed a dog. without them, all dogs would be starving skellies by age 3.
*eats pizza slice*
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>>4788292
Feeding trials don’t test for carcinogenic activity and other toxins because they aren't relevant. The dietary requirements and safety parameters for pets are different from those of humans, and the testing protocols reflect that.

Carcinogenic activity and other toxins are actually tested in individual ingredients before it's made.

>pet food is "not food" and is made up of "garbage"
Unfounded and misleading. Some pet food companies use by-products and other less desirable ingredients, these are still nutritious and safe for consumption by pets. FDA regulations prohibit the inclusion of "rotten or diseased meat" and require proper disposal of animal carcasses.
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>>4788306
you sounded like a talented bullshitter until the extra blatant lie at the end

pet food IS proper disposal of carcasses for americans

and no they do not care about cacinogens and pet food
yet they are relevant
what disease kills the most dogs in the first world?

cancer
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https://truthaboutpetfood.com/lawsuit-testing-finds-dog-dna-in-dog-food/#:~:text=The%20court%20documents%20of%20a,Brown%20Rice%20Recipe%20Dog%20Food.”

If it has “meal” in it its true, rendering plants process everything and since its just pet food they do NOT clean the pipes between processing “meat meal” (any animal, even humans if they could get some!) and “species meal” (MOSTLY one species but no inspector watching = protect the bottom line)

You should research rendering plants. What the feds say they should do and what they actually do are different things. industries are corrupt, lazy, and greedy.
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>>4788184
4 more months
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>>4788311
Dogs that die of cancer are overwhelmingly senior dogs. This is a natural process that occurs as organs age and decline in health and have reduced ability to fight illness. You do realize if they weren't dying of cancer then they would be dying of something else right? It would be alarming only if dogs were dying of cancer at age 3.

Among humans, cancer has always been the leading cause of death since before processed food was widespread.

>Nutrish has fucking DOG in it
Believable, who the fuck is Rachel Ray and why is she making dog food. Stick to science-based brands, not random celebrity/influencer dog foods.
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>>4788329
>Your dog dying of cancer is NORMAL!
>THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LIVED LONGER
>BUY THE SLOP THE "SCIENCE" SAYS SO
>The science: Dogs fed the slop were alive at 6 months and had not gotten sick yet. The slop is now science approved.
>Mars AKA WSAVA: 6 months? Can't we check that at 4? Why not 3?
Rachel ray has dog DNA in it because it has meal in it. If it comes from a US based rendering plant it's very normal for them to have inadequate purity and quality standards. They are literal fucking garbage disposal facilities, they grind up and cook biological waste until it is visually unrecognizable as waste and no longer contains immediately harmful toxins or pathogens.

You either feed your dog garbage (kibble) and tell yourself they would not have lived much longer, or you put in the effort and expense to cook them an actual meal.

If we take option one we are evil people
I am evil
You are evil

Because there's always a chance our dogs are genetically superior and actually would have lived longer if not fed carcinogen crunch. But we are just evil, lazy, cheap people.
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>>4788329
>cancer has always been a leading cause of death
>chart shows it getting significantly worse
Shill harder for corpos why don't you

What's next? Smoke a whole joint a day, the weed industry says it's good for you. Premium cigars raise your IQ and testosterone. And if you're taking less than two shots of whisky each evening you're not doing enough for your health. Trust the science.
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>>4788337
Old dogs dying of cancer is normal, always has been.

It would be concerning if they were young dogs with full immune health suddenly drop dead of cancer.

Meal does not cause cancer, meal is just ground-up meat and bones.

One off-brand dog food doing something bad does not mean all kibble is the same and vets aren't paid by corporations that's conspiracy theory. Vets aren't going to sacrifice their license over some dog food.
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>>4788345
No vets lost their license because rachel ray had trace amounts of dog food in it. Liability goes to the rendering plant that supplied the meal. The vets say what you say - "meal is SUPPOSED TO BE...". The rendering plant say "we'll look into it" but the people who care about this are a small group that doesn't have billions to blow so it never comes up again, or just for one product run they test themselves, or else literally every brand of pet food would have been subject to these DNA tests.

>meal does not cause ancer
In theory, assuming the rendering plant uses low heat and maintains product purity. In that case it would simply be a cheaper way to process livestock into food. In practice, they do not, product purity and quality is low, garbage/4d meat/shelter pets end up in there, not as primary components of the run but as contaminants from runs intended for lower grades of feed and precursors for fertilizers. You should really look up how rendering plants actually operate and listen to stories from former inspectors. If it's not destined for human mouths, standards are only followed when they are being watched. Also, your own processed food is not much better and is one of the leading contributors to cancer deaths in humans.
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>>4788329
Why would anyone argue with someone who says this
>Among humans, cancer has always been the leading cause of death since before processed food was widespread.
And posts a chart directly contradicting their entire point, demonstrating that cancer has become more widespread?

That chart logically invalidates your entire point
Just because many dogs are dying of cancer does not mean they would if we did not feed them literal shit
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>>4788348
Rachel Ray doesn’t follow WSAVA Guidelines.

Errors happen, meal isn't diseased that is unhealthy and would cause extinction.
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>>4788351
Moot point at best that is unsubstantial.
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>>4788351
>the chart
The chart appears to show cancer increasing as technology evolves and screening becomes common.

Cancer is evaluated and diagnosable now.

Most people never saw doctors in the 1900s.

Cancer was always in the lead as the chart shows.
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>le wsava will save us
no
https://ketonaturalpetfoods.com/blogs/news/why-you-should-ignore-the-wsava-guidelines-for-dog-food

Also, meal is meal, a rendering plant is a rendering plant, if they're not naming the specific rendering plant they get their meal from, they view that knowledge as a risk. It's like slapping "human grade" on feed - you're taking a legal risk like rachel ray did when they said "limited ingredient". One test gets you a lawsuit.
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>>4788351
The real question is, why would anyone argue with someone who thinks nutrient deficiencies are not important in dogs? It causes congestive heart failure, kidney disease, and pancreatitis.

You shouldn't be making home diets unless you're working closely with a DACVIM (not the internet CN/canine nutritionist selling you their pet food calculator) because DACVIMS are accredited academics who specialize in pet nutrition, not random internet strangers who read a random article. Internet strangers need to prove themselves as capable of formulating a diet. Showing off a dog with a shiny coat isn't enough yet most of their “accreditation” involves using anecdotes compared to DACVIMS who study a principled subject for years and are removed from their programs if they can't maintain academic standing.
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>>4788367
>Keto Natural Pet Foods
>Ignore the people who won't gives us the shiny sticker because our food is vegan tier bullshit
Lmfao, good troll attempt. Thank you come again.
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>>4788368
This. It's very irresponsible for anyone to suggest otherwise when a complete doggy diet novice is asking about switching their dog to an all homemade diet.
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>>4788368
>The real question is, why would anyone argue with someone who thinks nutrient deficiencies are not important in dogs?
Nobody said this, but it has been called absurd that you need to employ a "nutritionist" (a dubiously respectable profession, even the ones who care for more important human issues are hideously wrong, not just historically, but right now) for a dog not to be nutrient deficient. Dogs naturally eat nothing but animal carcasses, and an all-carcass diet is closely associated with long lifespans, as seen madadh the wolf, bluey the dog, etc. They are not difficult animals to feed. They evolved to eat nature's ultimate bag of kibble - the one that comes packaged in skin.

Furthermore the facts on WSAVA and AAFCO feeding trials are damning. The expert nutrition boils down to a short feeding period and a basic health evaluation. That is how WSAVA APPROVED(!) grain free foods caused DCM in golden retrievers. They are just feeding dogs garbage with multivitamins.

Your cancer cope is even more damning. You simply handwave a disease we KNOW FOR A FACT HAS CERTAIN PREVENTABLE CAUSES which ARE PRESENT IN PROCESSED FOOD. "Oh, they would have died anyways!"
Yes, I know, you are evil
I am evil
Everyone who feeds kibble is evil

Cope harder.

>TRUST THE EXPERTS
Experts have recommended smoking cigarettes. At the time, would you have trusted them? There are university educated, industry accredited "experts" today who actually recommend you smoke marijuana every day. Do you?
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>trust the experts
the sheer amount of food additives that are banned in the EU but allowed in the USA should tell you something about how many of those experts are actually dedicated to truth, rather than protecting corporations by certifying more profitable ingredients, additives, and manufacturing methods
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>>4788374
Why are you reciting old points that have been addressed and appealing to emotion?
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>>4788377
Why are you unable to accept the facts?
>Cancer is preventable. Its causes are present in kibble. WSAVA and AAFCO do not evaluate foods for carcinogenic content.
>Cancer existing does not justify itself.
>WSAVA has certified injurious foods before.
>Less than 10% of WSAVA's revenue comes from veterinarian member fees
>Veterinarians are not on the hook for contamination in kibble, the kibble brand is
>AAFCO feeding trials do not predict lifespan, they predict less than one year of good health.
>Dog DNA has been found in kibble.
>WSAVA has no direct control over the rendering plants that supply the meal used in kibble.
>You do not need a "nutritionist" to tell you how to feed your dog, that is absurd, they are not a racecar engine that needs specially formulated oils, they are a mammal that normally eats rabbit guts.
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https://truthaboutpetfood.com/dog-dna-found-in-2-dog-foods/
>100% of the pet foods analyzed in this research were mislabeled.
Fact: the rendering plants that supply "meal" for animal feed manufacture have nonexistent quality and purity standards. It's not a question of which kibbles have contamination, it's a question of when they will be tested for it.
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>>4788378
>>4788379
>the “facts”
>some dog foods were compromised
>some dog foods in question
>Rachel Ray Nutrish
>not WSAVA conforming
>therefore ALL kibble is bad
>therefore ALL people should make at-home diets
>article by Susan Thixton™
>Susan Thixton™ APPROVED dog food list
These aren't facts but rhetoric-fueled craze. It's odd that some random person “Susan Thixton™” would even approve of dog food. That's not right, the food either meets standards or it doesn't. Publishing an approved list just means she's being bribed by those companies.
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>>4788381
>Trust the experts
>Independent soruces are bad
>I refuse to acknowledge the deficiencies in WSVA's standards
>I defend carcinogens
>If a scientist tells me smoking is good for me I will buy a pack of marlboros
A rendering plant is a rendering plant. Do they name where their "meal" comes from? Do they evaluate their food for carcinogens and toxins? Clearly not because an inordinate number of dogs are dying of cancer and WSAVA greenlit DCM causing foods.
Cope all you want

But if you feed kibble you are immoral and abusing your dog
I am also immoral and abusing my dog by feeding kibble
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>>4788382
the grain free scare was partly on golden retriever breeders for inbreeding animals with poor taurine synthesis but i agree feeding anything other than actual food is subpar and if they dont test for carcinogens you're feeding toxic waste.
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>>4788381
>food either meets standards or it doesn't
Not always the case. We should also take into consideration the track record of the company that produces the food in question. Some companies are more prone to recalling contaminated food than others.
>>4788184
Why did you delete this post jannies? It's just a picture of Anya, and me saying I almost got a poodle instead of a mutt.
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>>4788382
>Independant sources aka random internet blogger lady Susan Thixton.

Her criteria for a paid list that's published is just that it's human grade. She doesn't require any testing or labwork so you can stop lying and shilling. https://truthaboutpetfood.com/the-list/
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>>4788386
Why are you still complaining, you are a serial ban evader, they will always delete your posts.
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>>4788387
Does wsava test for carcinogens or not?
Can you explain AAFCO feeding trials to us and how they are not a guarantee your dog will merely live <1 year?
Does your kibble brand disclose the rendering plants they source from? Can you visit them?
Is there or is there not a conflict of interest if 90% of WSAVA's funding comes from US based pet food manufacturers?
Given the difference in food safety standards between the EU and US, would you say that "experts" are never corrupt and conflicts of interest do not cause them to certify potentially harmful ingredients? Would they have more or less preventing them from engaging in this moral ill for personal gain if the food was destined for animals, which society considers mere property similar to a laptop?
Why are you unable to feed your dog a complete meal, despite the longest lived dogs, fed by rural retards, doing fine on kangaroo guts?
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>>4788385
>subpar
For humans. Dogs aren't humans. They don't need human-grade ingredients that are “toxin-free”. Yeah, how many times have you had something in your fridge or pantry recalled? Chances are more than anything claiming to be WSAVA conforming.

>Susan Thixton’s list: 43 Dog Food Brands
>WSAVA confirming (not a list): a handful of 5-7 Dog Foods
One of these is more rigorous than the other.
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>>4788394
>Dogs don't need foods that are toxin free
>If dogs die from cancer at 12 that's normal
>Stop asking questions
Cope all you want but kibble is poisoning our dogs.
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>>4788392
WSAVA does annual lab work in addition to its feeding trials. Can you explain to me what lab work if any at all Susan Thixton’s list performs?
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>>4788394
>WSAVA conforming
>90% of funding from the companies
Kek.

>>4788397
"Lab work" is vague. Show me where WSAVA tests for carcinogens. Show me their standards for carcinogens in pet food. Every meal containing kibble ever tested contained contamination. Why does WSAVA not care?

Answer these questions, do not make a statement. You have questions. Answer them, or I will answer them for you.
>>4788392
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Given the clear risks, and the historical record regarding home fed dogs being in good health, is it rational to trust WSAVA over common sense such as "dogs eat animals so feed dogs animals"?
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>>4788396
>human-grade food is magically toxin-free because the FDA slapped a label on it

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mouse-poop-fda-food_n_7572232

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/recalls
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>>4788400
>Sometimes human grade food has toxins in it, especially in the US, a country known for corruption in food safety (they recommended smoking long after the nazis found it caused lung cancer)
>Therefore, you should feed your dog food that has no standards for toxic content. Dogs dying of cancer is normal starting at age 10. Stop asking questions. Trust the experts who are 90% funded by the leading pet food companies.
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>>4788403
>Sometimes pet food has toxins in it
>Therefore, you should feed your dog human food that has equal amounts of toxic content and is recalled more frequently than pet food.
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>>4788405
Don't forget

>Human food that has the nutritional needs of humans in mind not pets
>also please pay $20 for lady Thixton’s list, Saar please you don't understand my Indian family needs it badly.
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>>4788405
>Sometimes
All of the time
>Human food that has equal amounts of toxic content
CITATION NEEDED. Does a slab of steak and a packet of liver have the same toxic content as a bag of kibble? Do blueberries, once washed, have toxic content? Does a carrot? Do organic rolled oats?
>And is recalled more frequently
Processed foods certainly are - this indicates the application of stricter standards, not necessarily lower quality.

Now, since you didn't want to play ball, I'm going to answer my own questions for you, you covid booster taking fuck

>Does wsava test for carcinogens or not?
They do not.
>Can you explain AAFCO feeding trials to us and how they are not a guarantee your dog will merely live <1 year?
You can not. The feeding trials are relatively short.
>Does your kibble brand disclose the rendering plants they source from? Can you visit them?
None do this. It would be legal suicide.
>Is there or is there not a conflict of interest if 90% of WSAVA's funding comes from US based pet food manufacturers?
This is a textbook conflict of interest.
>Given the difference in food safety standards between the EU and US, would you say that "experts" are never corrupt and conflicts of interest do not cause them to certify potentially harmful ingredients?
Absolutely not. American "experts" are often closely associated with companies and defend objectively harmful substances if they are highly beneficial to the bottom line.
>Would they have more or less preventing them from engaging in this moral ill for personal gain if the food was destined for animals, which society considers mere property similar to a laptop?
They would have less preventing them assuming they are "normal" people who would say "they are just animals", that is, they care less because there are looser legal penalties for feeding a dog garbage.
>Why are you unable to feed your dog a complete meal, despite the longest lived dogs, fed by rural retards, doing fine on kangaroo guts?
Because you are a retard.
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>>4788411
>you covid booster taking fuck
Try meds.
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>>4788412
I included that as a filter, an IQ test if you will, and you failed. Miserably. Verdict: NPC.

You may now resume trusting mars to tell you their own pet food is the best.
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>>4788415
Okay. Try meds though.
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>>4788411
>WSAVA is toxic
False, and toxins are measured by ingredients.

>Only processed food is recalled
Organic ground beef recall: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/recalls-alerts/fsis-issues-public-health-alert-raw-ground-beef-products-due-foreign-material

> Human food is toxin-free
False, see above.

>but the feeding trials are only half a year!
That's more than most, they also perform annual lab work and boot non-conforming “partners”.

>WSAVA funding
They're a non-profit and scientific studies are all funded to some degree because scientists need salaries and expensive equipment. Will you throw out all scientific studies because they were “funded”.

>WSAVA approves dog food in a list
No, they do not. They publish standards. If your company does not meet them you are off the hook and no brands are explicit “wsava approved”.

>>Kangaroo guts and fish Weiner lead to long lives
Anecdote, you are concerned with ingredient quality but feel fine feeding animal intestines and fish dicks something you yourself would not eat.
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>>4788415
“Human grade” makes you feel warm and fuzzy but it isn't necessary at all and quality kibble with optional toppers provides the same benefits.
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>>4788422
>"False, and toxins are measured by ingredients."
Nonsense
>Ground beef was recalled because of an accident
Clearly not the case for the 6 kibble brands found to have contamination. This indicates higher standards, not less frequent contamination.
>False
A recall indicates standards being applied, not the opposite.
>That's more than most
How long did bluey live?
>They're a non-profit
They are an advertising agency 90% funded by the products they advertise. Textbook conflict of interest. Would you accept a study on alcohol safety 90% funded by producers of alcoholic beverages? Would you accept a study on the safety of heavy, daily cannabis use funded by canadian cannabis growers?
>No brands are WSAVA approved
And yet WSAVA mostly approves foods made by the companies that supply 90% of their funding.
>Anecdote
You know what else is an anecdote? This funny story about you not being able to answer

>Does wsava test for carcinogens or not?
>Can you explain AAFCO feeding trials to us and how they are not a guarantee your dog will merely live <1 year?
>Does your kibble brand disclose the rendering plants they source from? Can you visit them?
>Is there or is there not a conflict of interest if 90% of WSAVA's funding comes from US based pet food manufacturers?

>you wouldn't eat fish dicks
I eat fish dicks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Some of us take health more seriously than "mars told me their own pet foods are the best".
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>>4788426
>nonesense
Because?

>6 random non-wsava kibble brands recalled vs ongoing recalls for human food
Moot.

>a recall INDICATES
Why are you using recalls as a point then?

>Bluey, a random anecdote
Well you know, I know a dachshund who's 17 and eats nothing but Royal Canin and the occasional antler.

>WSAVA funding again
All scientific research is funded

>WSAVA is an advertising agency
Not a very successful one clearly since they don't even tell you what brands to pick also false, they publish guidelines for the health of small animals from vaccination schedules to dog food.

>WSAVA approves
No, they don't. They publish standards.

>answer my rhetoric or else I'll keep posting dysgenic dogs and celebrities
Go ahead, and a lot of that is irrelevant or previously addressed.

>Mars mars mars
Hungry much? Want a chocolate bar?

>rigorious scientific standards are less credible than my internet blog Mommy
Really?
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>>4788429
>Because
>Moot
Stopped reading there.

You're feeding your dog carcinogenic breakfast cereal made out of ground up boiled garbage. Cope.
>inb4 "emotion, baaaaaad"
Emotions are why you aren't a slave in the lithium mines, you economically inefficient little resource sink.
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>>4788432
>stopped reading
Yet you will continue to reply because you are driven by emotion and ignore authorities on the subject.

Another troll attempt thwarted.
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>>4788429
I know an aussie who's 23 and eats nothing but shrimp.
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>>4788433
damn dude he didn't just btfo you and leave you unable to post anything substantial to refute his claims, he predicted exactly what you were going to post next

you're totally out of your league
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>>4788434
>Anectdotes are in fact useless
Unless you're suggesting folks feed nothing except for shrimp
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>>4788437
Shrimp only works on aussies. I had their owner give me $4.50 and then I asked my vet for a couple of quarters so I could be a properly funded scientist for this study.
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>>4788438
>the scientific process is equitable to my analogy
It isn't /pol/tard. Go back to the incel anime fourth Reiche.
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>>4788443
>The scientific process can be trusted when it's behind closed doors and 90% funded by its beneficiaries thats why i trust jack daniels when they tell me drinking alclohol alc, alchlo... alc O hol, daily, does not cause braindam... brain...
>Yeah! The kibble company told me their kibble is the best. Science.
So, anyway, you're telling me to go back to the..
The Reiche??

Curious.

The difference between us is not that one of us doesn't feed kibble, it's that one of us is aware that we are hurting out dog by being a lazy faggot.
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>>4788448
>out
>our
Damn this typo just ruined my entire argument
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>>4788448
>random ad hominem
Defeated.

Now,

Post chin, I bet it's flatter than a white girl’s ass. If not and you have some chin definition I will punch it into a cavity.
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>>4788450
>Post chin
Here's a japanese chin. I know you losers love your jap bitches.
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>>4788452
Your jawline matches that dog's jawline.
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the anti-kibble guy is the clearly the superior lifeform here but i get the impression that he is excessively bored
and so is the pro-kibble guy

so i did some research
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+do+huskies+sleep
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+do+bassets+sleep
damn. we got a long, long way to go.
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>>4788455
These are just ashkenazim kids, ya antisemite, and for your information most of these guys got married to big titty zaftigs later. What's your excuse?
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>>4788459
>later
Most of them look 40 already! Such is the life of the Ashkenazim.
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>see general
>60 bumps
Someone must really hate the OP.
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>>4788461
>Yeah, I look like i've been around for 40 more years than I have
>So do my investments
>What of it?
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>>4788466
You must really like basset hounds.
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>>4788467
I like all jewish dogs

Can you say the same?
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-10-06/ty-article-magazine/why-israel-is-thronged-with-blue-eyed-dogs/0000017f-e5d2-df2c-a1ff-ffd398cc0000
world domination soon
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>>4788468
What are Jewish dogs? Dolichocephalic ones (the skull is longer than it is wide)?
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>>4788474
They are G*d's chosen pooches
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I have a free zoo voucher. Should I bring my dog?
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>>4788468
german shepherd whiskers are amusing
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Imagine not feeding your dogs 16% layer feed.
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4788443
4788450
4788455
>resident thread shitter is a tranny
shocking
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>>4788474
Dogs with sky high rates of inbreeding and schizophrenia.
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do you think this big nigga is a full blooded german? Found him today and am thinking about keeping him if no one claims him.
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>>4788483
Do you spend a lot of time thinking about dog whiskers?

>>4788519
And the highest IQs on canine earth with a disproportionate number of canine world leaders, academics, and nobel prize #winners

>>4788521
Chow chow looking fuck, absolute mutt
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>>4788521
That's an Akita. Dyk that Akitas had GSD cross-breeding during the 1940s. Maybe explains why they're so smart.

Side note: does anyone have waterproof collars/leashes for the Beachside

Side note: Assaulted by a malnourished [redacted] and a pair of doodles today. All is not well.
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Dude is fucking huge. His legs are insanely thick.
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>>4788522
only one part of that is true
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>>4788526
Yes? Your point being?
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>>4788525
There's a basset at my local dog bark that follows other dogs around going ROOOOOO and trying to steal treats/toys. It gets assaulted all the time, just standard dog snarling, no real aggression. It looks kind of like this one. Do the dogs have an innate knowledge of canine racism?
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>>4788525
german shepherds are a type of husky. thats why they’re so smart and they were suitable for breeding with akitas. tmyk.
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>>4788531
collies and aussies were bred from spitz mutts

truly all good dogs are huskies at heart
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>>4788530
The howling is normal, I think it may just be trying to play keep away. Bassets love to fetch and tug because when they win they can parade the toy around in their mouth and grumble at other dogs as a sign of victory.
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>>4788526
That's a badass dog.
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>>4788550
Hey, the smart semites (ashkenazi jews) like dogs too. So do the more civilized asians.

Hating dogs is just low IQ behavior.
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>>4788389
There are plenty of posts I've made they didn't delete. I'm just wondering why that picture.
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Welp, that's a new one.
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>>4788551
They self domesticated via natural cooperation. This is well known. This is demonstrated by hunter gatherers. The dogs are symbiotic. Always have been, still are, always will be.

Sorry about your fantasy but history does not align with quranic values. Most people that hate dogs are totally unable to coexist with them. Natural empathy is required for companionship hence low IQs are unable to get along with dogs. Lack of empathy. No theory of mind.
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>>4788553
the smart jews like pushing dogfaggotry with the media they own. because it means their blood enemy is wasting time and getting sick from filth.
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>>4788557
this is what darwinism does to low iq minds. it distorts them into bug people who make up alt history in the format of a strategy game. thankfully, the archaeological record disagrees. dogs even received separate burials implying they were seen as like people.

violent brainlets like you on the other hand HAVE been controlled. via religion. its the only way to stop you from being an incel. even dogs get less training than an unwashed peasant who needs to hear a tomes worth of warnings of hellfire.
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>>4788560
Dog owners live longer and are more likely to be married with children
Dog owners are less likely to be victimized by violent crime
Dog owners are also more likely to be racist
Dog ownership is traditionally seen as a white european institution although it is found in the entire indo-european world going back to the stone age. For 30000/40000 years of their history there wasnt even selective breeding beyond self defense and the working function of a dog was natural cooperation between two compatible species.

Your theory doesnt make sense.
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>>4788567
>dog dog dog
think about white people and your own blood interest for once. your dog offers nothing, it doesn't fucking love you, it doesn't work.
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>>4788563
>hapa future mass shooter detector:
>[||||||||||||||||||||||||||]||||||||||||| ALART ALART
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>>4788561
>dogs even received separate burials implying they were seen as like people.
That’s probably not at all what that meant. Horses were frequently given the same treatment but only with important people.
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>be me
>white
>feed dog:
>$50 a month
>third worlder: THE JEWS DID THIS TO DESTROY AMERICA
No, zhang, that would be the manipulation of the housing market, wage suppression, and sexual lib. If anything turning on dogs is another way to destroy the fabric of america by conditioning people to stop having empathy and be like good little bugs that would never be late to work to save a car crash victim or wait for toddlers to get across the road lmao.
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Edginess and dogs are actually compatible. See: Adolf Hitler and Blondi.
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>>4788572
you're not a god, you're a pathetic servant of lesser creatures, dragging us all down to your level.
you spit in the face of the ancients who built western civ by doing the exact opposite, destroying it. you think what megacorp wants you to think, everyone and their fucking mother loves them and we have almost nothing left now. enjoy owning nothing.
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>>4788576
Actually accurate post. Glad we still have some based and ‘pilled people in here and not just trannitor immigrant trolls
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>>4788578
faggot would call the ancients animal abusers. he would be rightfully burned alive.
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>>4788578
>enjoying dogs means you're destroying western civilization
This is your brain on being a chronically online rightoid schizophrenic.
Enjoy your dogs everyone. This thing is the equivalent of that homeless person yelling on the street corner about how covid was a lie or something equally retarded.
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>>4788586
>Slaves run from dogs
Based.
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The smallest bark of the weakest dog trains a weapon on the strongest of thieves and the most cunning of vermin. From the age of arrows to the age of ammo. Trespassers, murderers, and burglars have always died shortly after hearing “YAP!”, and the ones that were lucky enough to limp away spawned dog haters like this little gremlin.

They hate them because they fear them and they literally beg that you stop liking them so they can be the ones in control of the fear instead.
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>>4788592
whites invented tech that could mass kill vermin long ago and we still have it, along with more. we don't need an overgrown rat to hunt smaller rats, its inefficient and requires keeping a worthless shit eating dog alive with white resources and time.
the world is spitting in your face, you own nothing. you are doing something wrong. everything you believe is a fucking lie.
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>>4788592
The difference between people that stare at the pooch in horror when a dog barks and people that immediately look in the direction the dog is barking says a lot about humanity
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>>4788586
>>4788589
based buck breaker doggies protecting the assets
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>>4788587
Well. You’re partially right about something I guess. Just not dogs.
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>pppppleaaase stop having dogs stop liking dogs tell all your friends to stop liking dogs too pleeeeaaaaase my fellow nazis pleeeaaaae no more dogs my niggas please!
>literally seething and banging on the keyboard because he cant hop a fence or pick a lock without hearing BARK BARK *BANG*
Lol

Good enough for every indo-european for the past 400 centuries good enough for me
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All races are equal, when it comes to dog ownership race doesn't matter.
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>>4788605
dog owners are the true master race
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Speaking of dogs being based
>One day heather starts barking
>Not the usual friendlier husky woofs but a deep menacing german shepherd like bark
>very unusual because she won't bark at something across the street or even right on the curb unless she's in the front yard
>she's nowhere near the fence, just staring at it and barking
>Check out the front window
>See a figure on the other side of the fence peering in
>clearly holding something against his chest
>Grab gun
>peek out the front to catch him from behind
>on edge as fuck thinking he has a gun
>yell at him
>he turns around looking scared
>it's a fucking solicitor with an ipad with a black cover
>they never came back
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>>4788615
Based.
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>>4788601
your tv box does nothing but promote and apologize for these worthless retarded furry niggers, even when they mutilate our own children. I suspect pet industry shilling here, wouldn't be out of line with all the other botspam.
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>>4788626
>kill all dogs.png
Why are you here if you hate dogs so much?
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>>4788626
<15% of dogs = 80% of attacks, 6% of dogs = 60% of attacks (all the same breed type)
Still statistically rarer to die by dog than lightning strikes even with shitbulls (whats so special about shitbull owners and apologists? Just look.)

Go bother the pitbull “people” because every other dog is slightly less dangerous than not bolting chairs to the ground.

THEY want you to think this:
All dogs are just dogs
Pitbulls behave the way they do because of the owners, they are normal dogs
But so many attacks
STOP HAVING DOGS!

Dont fall for it. Breedism is facts.
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Looks like toxobrains got tired of losing the usual arguments and now want to lose entirely new ones
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you are a failure. you will never evolve as a person. you serve lesser creatures that not only don't love you and can't love, but wouldn't even if they could.
nature even gave them pseudo eyebrow muscles, to fool retarded cattle into giving them more food, our precious energy resource. your weakness festered so long, that fucking happened, it manifested physically.
your stupid fucking kids will be thrown into the judeo meat grinder, they wont change the world and neither will you. the best and brightest of our kind are done with you, we will fuck you up now.
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>>4788636
I don't like cats or any pets either, but I really fucking hate dogs. your dog inhales the fucking ground and eats shit. your dog is a walking parasite factory.
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>>4788641
Nope

>>4788639
You have a complex so what you say and what you feel are disconnected.

What you feel:
You are afraid of being bit or shot because of dogs while attempting a criminal act
Seeing dogs makes you feel jealous and bitter because of all the people who can afford to own them and are smart enough to handle them
Seeing dogs fills you with self hatred because due to schizophrenia and virginity you fetishize porn where people abuse them

Simple as.

t. Psych major, IQ 138
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>come to /dog/ to make people mad
>get brutally psychoanalyzed and compared to the progeny of generational slavery by smug dog owners
>end up being the mad one as you furiously reset your router knowing full well the jannies are laughing at your post history
Oof.
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>>4788636
No one said anything about cats stop dragging in your obsession here retard
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>>4788658
Who said cats? Toxo is a foodborne illness. 50% meat 50% veg m8.
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>>4788628
That’s a creature known as the pug so not surprising
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>>4788660
>playing dumb
Cool do it with someone else I guess
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>>4788662
>but in my head you said… and everyone was laughing at me and…
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I'd prefer cowboi69 posting his dog than any of this shit
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>>4788671
i’m pretty sure it’s just one or two people that are in cahoots trying to get this thread bumped off the index because they disagree with it.
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>>4788673
This thread has been a target for 8 fucking years
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>>4788646
>>4788646
>t. Psych major, IQ 138
Future doordash driver
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>>4788678
Healthcare is pretty based though, you can become an LMHC with a psych degree I think. Also easier than nursing, doctor-ing, and dentist-ing. Also, demand is high and you can WFH.
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>>4788690
You sound like an institutionalized African American Muslim.
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>>4788673
There's a number of resident schizos on /an/, most of whom hate dogs, but this incident is funny, because, just plug desuarchive into the URL in place of boards.4chan, scroll up, and look at which posts got deleted

99.9% of the time mods do not read threads. They only respond to reports. And they usually wont delete anything but the most obvious rule breaking unless it gets reported more than once, or a janny personally tells them about it. That means the counter-trolling posts that got deleted, not being half as explicitly racist as all the ones that stayed up, most likely hit home the hardest and got our little ban evading friend to take a break from shitposting and toggle his proxies to report those posts multiple times. There seems to be a lull in his freakout following those so I'm guessing yeah, his feelings got very hurt.
(This also means 4chan moderation doesn't actually function without you )

He calmed down not because he got banned (he's probably evading multiple bans he received today alone, or else he'd be gone as soon as the first post was deleted), but because he got on 4chan trying really hard to hurt some feelings and ended up getting extremely, brutally butthurt. So butthurt he probably punched his desk and cried a little.

Now that you know this you can safely ignore him, and report him, even though he's resetting his router or using proxies mods can actually see through those pedestrian tricks (your posts have more metadata than you think) so every time he gets banned he loses that IP range for 30 days.

Oh, and when they ban you, they DO in fact look at your posting history and laugh at how retarded you are.
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>>4788695
Based mods being informed by democracy and laughing at peoples post history
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It's almost too hot to walk dogs on asphalt

Remember the better days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGVz1ClxIc
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>>4788695
Sounds like you’re a janny
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I'm neutering Dalton.
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Just look at this exquisite stance. Ready to pounce on his stick the moment I try to grab it.

Hope you guys had fun with your dogs today! :D
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>>4788754
My dog is learning to catch the ball mid air. Is this based or will it cause ocd?
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>>4788759
Leo is an expert at catching food in his mouth. Occasionally he will jump the gun and bite my hand or get close to it as I'm pulling a treat from my pocket to throw in the air.

I also worry about him trying to catch sticks in the air, or them bouncing up and stabbing him if he misses.

Other than that I don't see how it could be a bad thing. Your guess is as good as mine about that tho.
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>>4788760
Ball is life.
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>>4788762
Facts. Throwing ball over fence can be a fun change if you want to make them run a little more and practice their pathfinding and seeking.

I had to stop doing this because he started jumping through the water troughs and got completely soaked. -_-
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>>4788776
Is that sped up?
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>>4788781
Yes by 2x. Webm conversion can be annoying. I think all the moving grass makes it very hard to compress efficiently.
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>>4788782
>all the moving grass makes it very hard to compress efficiently
Yeah.
I remember a few years ago there was some program that allowed one to highlight the objects that are actually important, so it would use extremely lossy compression on the boring stuff and keep the subject at high quality.
So if it was done to your original video most of the grass would be maximum lossy compression, but the doggo would be at 4K or whatever.
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My dog doesn't like balls

I bought a chuckit atlatl launcher thing and the ignoring was so brutal I just left it at the dog park
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>>4788834
Maybe someone else will enjoy it.
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When there are a lot of bans in my area doesn't it mean there are other 4chan users? If so it might be time to stop posting my dogs.
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Is 10,000 sq ft too small for a dog?
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>>4788834
That's okay. My friend's GP don't like balls either. They'll run over to sniff it, but I've never seen them with a stick or ball in their mouth.

It may be possible to train fetch, but it would take some work. They're slow learners.
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Would it be cringe if I had this picture in my house, but my dog had pointy ears?
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Kabosu is now 18 years and 6 months old.
She's had leukemia for a year and a half.

Do you think she's making it to 19?
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>>4789119
she looked really bad in the blog post two days ago
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>>4789042
Flopears are just as talented and bright as prickears.

>>4789119
>>4789120
Pic rel: Doge before leukemia.
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Anyone else who likes swimming with their hot doggo?
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>>4789322
Based
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>>4789322
This dog looks perpetually frightened. Legit anxiety. Like those dogs at shelters that have been severely abused and have weird conditions like "no red headed women" and "no men with goatees" because of it.
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>>4789120
This is literally horrifying
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>>4789356
Dogs are forgiving. Even if they appear anxious, they may just be waiting for a command or a snack, like the dog in my picture.
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>>4789356
Perpetually?
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>>4789119
>>4789120
Would this dog off itself if it could or is it like those people who won’t roll off a cliff after losing 4 limbs and half their brain “because i liek leevin”
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>>4789120
LMAO! It looks like bad taxidermy now.
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>>4789322
>this dog is female did you know?
>because of the pink ofcourse lol!

-.-
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My dog is so goddamn unpopular
He is a loser
Why do the 9/10 dogs his size just bark and scream at him and the big dogs just ignore him?
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>>4787885
With a smile.
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>>4789367
Same phenotype. Your dog has nigga lips
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>>4789570
Anya is a mutt, no surprise there
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>>4789367
Imagine the slobber?
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My parents don't want a dog, even though their backyard is 43 golden retrievers long. They really do love dogs, that's not the issue, they don't know if they could care for one. What should I get them?
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>>4789613
Most neglected dog breeds are a total toss-up between small dogs, fluffy dogs, or shepherds. Get one of those.
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>>4789628
don't forget mixed breeds, we have a prime example in the thread right now
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>>4789570
>>4789574
>>4789593
I've thought about something like that, yes.
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Fucking hell mate. My 14wk old pup got loose during walk and ran home, i closed the metal dogpoop bin outside and he got scared from the clang and I guess I had the collar not tight enough. Pooped in front of the door too, and little stressed now. What should I do to comfort him fuck man
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Pup is whining a bit but settled down as soon as i took this pic
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A woman in my neighborhood is fostering a rough collie who was trained as a service dog for an autistic kid, but the kid grew up to be a violent teenager and the dog was rehomed for its own safety. This dog is ridiculously gentle and placidly lets five-year-olds take it on walks, but it’s clearly happiest when a little boy is playing with it.

What a good goddamn dog, and what a sad story. Hope it ends up in a house with little boys to spoil it.
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>>4789613
Have them get a dog from a breed-specific rescue that fosters for a month before adopting and that requires returning the dog to the rescue if things don’t work out. Filling out breed specific rescue applications is a pain but if they wait a few months they’ll get a perfectly good dog whose owner died or a new baby had an allergy or something. And if it doesn’t work out they haven’t made the dog’s life any worse.
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>>4789657
I hope they put the autistic kid down.
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>>4789649
Young puppies will startle but they don't have legitimate fear response. If he does anyway just habituation and socialization TO THE THING will fix itself quickly.
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>>4789691
>puppies be like
>Oh shit my owner dropped his leash
>loud bang against asphalt
>RUNNIGGARUN
>Stop running when you realize there is no escaping the demonic retractable leash that's about to gobbl-
>Oh, it stopped making noise when I turned around
>*sleeps for 20 hours*
Pups are retards.
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>>4789570
jej
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currently dog only has collar but i want harness aswell, can i double clip by getting frontharness and then buying some extenderpart and clipping both the collar and harness to the leash? anyone double clipping?
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>>4789660
>Have them get a dog from a breed-specific rescue that fosters for a month before adopting and that requires returning the dog to the rescue if things don’t work out
That would be great, actually. Their primary complaint is that they aren't at the house for 3-4 months out of the year, so fostering dogs would help that immensely.
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>>4789720
You can get leashes that have clips on both ends. I'm sure you'll be able to find some sort of thing that has two clips and a ring in the middle to attach a leash to as well.

Collar + harness, or double collar is fairly common for security reasons so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding something.
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>>4789736
One of my friends has a collar-to-harness attachment. He abandoned it though. Why are you looking to switch?
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>>4789742
Meant for >>4789720
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>>4789720
>>4789742
That totally defeats the point of the harness, which is something that can restrain your dog without hurting them. If you have a collar and a harness because you trained your dog on collar pressure, but want to go hiking or to a dodgy error and dont want to hang your dog if they fall or you need to grab them, you need two leads, or to find a better training system.

Those two ended attachments are actually for hooking sled dogs together in rows.
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>>4789742
im the same guy that posted this
>>4789649
dont want my dog to escape anymore so im getting a martingale collar and/or premium harness. i live in the city i cant afford that happening.
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>>4789742
also this seems like a good setup i think
Collar + extender + Harness, on leash
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>>4787484
Just whip him with the leash if he does car danger things

Dont put him on a leash. Just let him lose
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>>4788526
My dog got a huge cock its not normal. Today someone commented on it again.

Like for the size he is, its hugmongous. Idk why, but it makes me proud.
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>>4789649
I had to pick my pup up at many different other side of the city. Dont forget, everyone has eyes and noone wants a pup to get hurt.

My dog would run intovthe supermarket everytime, so I was cycling supermarkets till he knew better.

They have to do things 'wrong' to learn.
In the end ajything you want to improve is trough self reflection, because the dog is already perfect as it is.

Dont worry to much. Do worry, just not too much. These beasts seen the depths of hell. They dont understand cars though, but the whip they do.
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what happens if you are outside with your dog and then you ask them if they want to go outside?
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>>4789827
run time error
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>>4789827
DO NOT EVER DO THAT!
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>>4789827
She either walks up to me so I can unhook herand let her in, or she looks down the hill as if to tell me 'hell no I want another walk'.
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How I feel when I kiss my dog's paw after accidentally stepping on it.
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>>4789827
Something something PARADOX!
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>>4789818
you’re not making us look good
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>>4789818
>Idk why, but it makes me proud.
Is this why men refuse to get their male dogs neutered? All that talk about the health of their dog and the dangers of neutering really was just bullshit huh.
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>>4790085
That doesn't make the facts about health less... factual.

It just means intuition was right once again and "the experts soi-ence" was just social engineering lies. Sasuga, western civilization.
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>>4790093
I don't think so but that's because I care about the health of my dog more than I care about my dog in relation to my penis, which seems to be the driving force for most men to not neuter their dog it seems. Sad. Many such cases.
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>>4790097
Falling into doing the right things for the wrong reasons isn't good and opens you up to future mistakes.
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>>4790093
Yes, this dog looks like a low quality individual and should be neutered
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>>4789634
hot
more mawshots plz
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This is one of my 2 dogs he is a rescued German Shepard and one of the most loveable and loyal dogs
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>>4789634
If only you didnt abuse your wife with packing tape
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Hello, I came here because I wanted to tell you about the most gorgeous dog I met on my delivery route. For context, this was rural southwestern Ohio, 3pm. Clear skies, warm wind, very beautiful.

The delivery was to a farm up on a hill. Bumpy road, bad for my Prius V. Whatever. Got to the top, got my packages, and there watching me was the most gorgeous Rottweiler I've ever seen. Powerful muscles, luxurious coat, this girl had it all. Since she was a farm dog and one that could probably kill me, I was respectful but cautious. Let her make the first move, right?

After approaching her with my packages, she came up to me and just had the biggest, happiest slobberfest all over my hands. Incredibly friendly. She followed me right up to the door, sniffing and hip-bumping all the while, and after sniffing the packages sat right beside them and watched me leave. I've never met a dog so well-trained and personable before.
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>>4790393
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>>4790357
Why does his head look like a butt
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>>4790416
HEY EVERYONE HE TORTURED HIS DOG BECAUSE IT MISBEHAVED AS A PUPPY.

HE STOLE PEOPLE'S PETS AND SOLD THEM SPECIFICALLY TO KNOWN DOG ABUSERS.
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>>4790479
How did this poster know the exact custom ban message?
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>>4790479
I didn't torture any dogs. Punishment isn't torture. And I never stole any pets. I found stray dogs on the streets, had them checked for microchips, and tried my best to rehomed them.
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>>4790493
>This guy has been finding "stray" well groomed, uninjured, well fed dogs and dumping them with people he solicited on zooville
You're picking up lost pets and giving them to animal abusers because you believe it's ok to rape the innocent
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>>4790498
Lol they weren't well groomed and they weren't well fed. I asked everyone from Craigslist, to 4chan, to telegram zoophiles if they would be willing to adopt these dogs. You literally had your chance to "save" them.
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>>4790501
>C4 in the seat
lol
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>>4790501
>You had your choice to hit the road at a steady 120mph to the location of a trucker who is known to be into violent sexual abuse and may be armed to stop him from giving a dog to someone who explicitly stated their intent to rape it
Sounds more like you're a sadist and a potential serial killer/rapist trying to bait a victim. The majority of "people" who sexually abuse animals go on to do things to people. I don't know what your exact plans are, but I do not think many courts in the US would pass that self defense case, in a whole other state, quickly, or in my favor, and I'm not confident that my draw is fast enough to deal with someone stepping out of their truck ready to shoot.
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>>4790501
Shut it with your narcissistic games, you sadistic animal raping fucktard. YOU had the choice to actually save those dogs by giving them to rescues that would adopt them out to vetted, experienced, kind owners.

Instead you got on 4chan and said
>hey, your friendly rapist trucker here, you all have 2 days to figure out where I am and stop me from giving this dog to a serial animal rapist. They're even a vet tech, so they can do their own medical care without being caught! this dog will be raped for life if you don't come stop me, hehehe!
>aw look, you all failed to save he dog. shame.
Because you are a narcissist, a rapist, and most likely a pedophile (almost 100% of zoophiles ever studied were easily aroused by CP and 2/3s had priors, or eventually offended, with children) who seeks attention and a feeling of power. Like most narcissists and psychopath, your entry into a life of crimes against humanity is animal abuse. Hopefully you get shot or crash that truck before you move on to children or hookers.
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>>4790544
>>4790544
>>4790544
New Bread
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>>4790528

Ignore the trolls. This is an anonymous anime website. Don't schizo-frantically decide to draft three argument essays in response to them. they literally feed off of your responses.
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>>4788010
Bulldog horrors, lots of power behind those jaws. The long snouts provide leverage but little power suited for catching prey animals like rabbits
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>>4790555
>Trolls
sir, the man is an actual serial rapist. he used to post his victims in /horse/ before he came here.
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>>4790567
So why respond? Report and ignore. Responding just creates engagement which is rewarding to the users.
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>>4790569
Oh yeah, I forgot. It's the compulsory worldview schizo who needs to respond to everyone because of behavioral issues.
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>>4790572
>>4790569
>You can't be angry at a literal rapist because
>uhhh
>that makes you a schizo.
The more people find out what he is, the more people report him to speed up his running out of IPs, and the more people put effort into finding him. Eventually, someone who recognizes some detail in his photos will see, and he will go to jail.
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>>4790576
You shouldn't reply =/= you can't be mad.

Reading comprehension or deliberate gaslighting?
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>>4790576
I see the logic as a long-term solution but 4chan isn't Facebook or a real social media website where users are identifiable and chronically here. It just comes off as pedantic when you post those “reminders” to an audience that is always changing, an audience whom you aren't even aware is there or when the next time they post is.
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>>4790485
4bans website
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>>4790576
How many 4chan users have ever been identified and imprisoned? Didn't one of the known zoosadists whose name starts with a D and who lives in the southwest get doxxed? The worst that happened allegedly was someone called his wagie job to get him fired.
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>>4790580
You should reply.
>The more people find out what he is, the more people report him to speed up his running out of IPs, and the more people put effort into finding him. Eventually, someone who recognizes some detail in his photos will see, and he will go to jail.
Someone is committing real crimes, in the real world, and bragging about it. Silence is violence. Sorry. Awareness is the least you can do.

>>4790583
The rotating audience makes this all the more important. Eventually, someone capable of recognizing locations or even the specific truck will come by. Maybe someone who knows him personally. How do you think this website used to catch animal abusers in the past? We didn't let it die. We didn't say "stop giving them attention, stop bring it up, it makes me uncomfortable". They got shit until someone said "hey, I know that fucker".

This guy is stealing dogs and distributing them to people who state their intent to abuse them instead of just giving them to rescues, and playing games like "you have 2 days to stop me". Don't let it happen in silence.
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>>4790587
No, there's an easier way of doing this that doesn't require you sperging out. Contract somebody to do the finding for you, ignore his posts by not responding to thwart engagement, and report his posts to ban his IPs.
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>>4790590
Yes, I am john wick, that's why I have contacts among hitmen and professional doxxers (who struggle to find anyone but sloppy russian CP moguls and people who actually self-doxxed). I don't need to point out what this rapist did when he posts, I can just call my friends in the syndicate and have him whacked. Besides, ignoring issues is the best way to make them go away.

But I'm not, the best info I have is a truck stop I don't have the resources to stake out for what could be months, nothing court admissible, nothing the police would accept as a worthwhile tip unless this were a child rape investigation where they'd put resources into every lead. I don't care if he gets "engagement", there's got to be more than one truck driver on 4chan and eventually he will be recognized.

There's a reason these people go so long without being caught, it's because they can confess online and law enforcement won't go to their house over it. It's a bigger waste of time in their eyes than domestic violence in compton.
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>>4790597
https://youtu.be/k5RT0GNLg8s?si=7ax9aqnMaY5VLdeu
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>>4790600
>random YouTuber: I can find any location from a 256x256 144p image https://youtube.com/shorts/ksU9Da-wC2c?si=iUv1PIWuf-9EMYQ5

>4chan incels: best I can do is spam the thread
Let's move forward now.
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>>4790600
>Implying this guy could find a mobile target who practices basic opsec
Yes, it's as difficult as needing a second person who has seen your dog before. The most specific leads are a slice of a generic american garage door, a specific truck stop, and one of your contacts having a prior job or a friend who works for target specialty products.

So, anyarapist, you will continue to be labeled a rapist every time you find an IP that works and come back here to brag about being a criminal.
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>>4790604
>you will be labeled a rapist
>something you admit anyway
>but I must spam the thread or whatever
>because of reasons!
Get em tiger.
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>>4790607
>stop it, stop it, stop telling them what i did
Someone will recognize you eventually
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>>4790604
Everyone slips up once in a while. Heres is a word of advice. Don't go digging around where you shouldn't. Most of the people who are actively engaged with anyamolester are people who could be doxxed way before he does. Posting large scale drone footage of your property? Posting your dog in a church’s backyard? Posting your dog in front of a high school football field sign that's easily legible and in the archive? Great candidates for a backfire.
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>>4790613
>Stop looking for me, or i'll look for you!
Empty threat

You'd be doxing one of my friends, not me.
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>>4790517
Not mine.
>>4790518
Even if that was true, I don't have a gun in the truck.
>>4790528
I did give Hope to the humane society when I failed to find her a home.
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>>4790613
Based and true

>>4790615
Leave the normal dog people out of this, mostly nobody wants to be a part of your cringe crusade against the bad guy! We have livelihoods.
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>>4790586
I wish I could invite dangerdoberman to my group. :(
>>4790583
I have a FB account with Anya as the profile pic.
>>4790587
I literally would have been willing to give you the dogs.
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>>4790621
You're afraid enough to think visiting a bunch of angry and well armed white wing males makes a great threat. Something must be going right, dogfucker.

"I gave her to a fellow zoo" is a pretty incriminating post to have on the archive once you need to explain all of this in court
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>>4790625
Pathetic samefag
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>>4790625
He's not me schizo.
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It's afraid!
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>>4790603
learn a new word retard



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