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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.org/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

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Write what's on your mind,
coffee cat edition
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>>11806485
>I find it hard to create an unique identity in the world of capitalism and consumerism. Am I me or am I just a fool falling for marketing schemes?
Tfw communism is a marketting scheme.
Tfw bolsheviks were funded by Wall St
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>>11812878
>moved on to some of the smaller sites
w-which one anon
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>tfw you've been drawing when you should be writing
At least I'm being productive in some capacity, I guess.
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>>11814106
watcha drawing anon?
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>>11814139
Just finished this thing

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>buy one of those e-book readers for like $150
>finally arrive after a week
>turn it on
>tries to make me sign up for a bunch of shit
>have to go through all these settings and stuff
>feel like I'm signing my soul away
>finally get it working
>it's like using a tabled made in the 90's
>it's so slow, unresponsive and doesn't even display color
>go through the book section
>there is barely 100 books there
>most of them are in foreign languages like polish and russian
>go to store the store page
>it doesn't even work and just sends me to google
>have to manually find it by using this god awful and unresponsive keyboard

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>>11814178
It's your fault for cheaping out on one of these instead of a large size e-ink device that displays PDFs natively.
If your too stupid to figure out how to get free ebooks, then you don't deserve to know either.

Why aren’t you a conservative yet, anon?
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>>11812401
Conservatism in theory is leftism in practice, perhaps taking one hundred years instead of ten to reach full communism.
You should be "radical" and certainly not conservative.
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>>11812559
Not very conservative, desu
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>>11812401
I don't smoke tobacco, that's why.
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Honestly, I never get what we are supposed to be conserving.

If you mean conservative in the political sense of not changing things too fast, that's perfectly fine, but if you mean conservative in the sense that we should go back to an era that is long gone, I think you're mad. The world literally hasn't been better than it is now, even in the Third World.
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Because my university professor told me not to. Also lol conservatism is for boomers.

do you read feminist literature?
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>>11814159
good boy
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women are so cringe
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feminism is gnosticism
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Disgusting
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I liek angela carter and doris lessing (however, after reading lessing's biography i'm not sure she's a feminist)

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You've made me neurotic as fuck, /lit/. In the past couple of weeks I've been thinking about this stupid NPC meme.

It seems I am constantly doing the same things, at the same time, without fail. And the scary part is that I am seemingly unable to break this dumb routine (it consists in the simplest tasks: sleeping, eating, browsing the internet, going to courses on graduate school) as every time I try to do something difference I feel extremely compelled to just forget this outlier behavior and go back to my ways. I make plans and don't follow through, but my routine keeps getting more and more rigid. I don't wash my car or visit relatives. Reading books feels like some chore, an obligation to be fulfilled rather than a true heart's desire. I also constantly bump on other people and hit tables, beds, walls with my feet and often send itens flying on the air (I break lots of plates and glasses due to this). There is very little reasoning going on in my mind: I am unable to create causal chains of actions towards an objective. My movement is very peculiar and deliberate, as if I'm walking like a real life QWOP character.

I've come to realize that I'm as close as possible to an Oblivion NPC powered by Radiant AI. What are books about such pathetic characters? Stoner? Notes from the Underground?
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Is my gf an NPC??
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>>11814138
If you have to consciously think about getting a drink of water you just have brain damage.
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>>11812967
>being called an unthinking automaton doesn’t carry a negative connotation
I swear /pol/tards get dumber and dumber every day
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>>11814150
This.
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>>11812914
It's your own fault for being so unsure of yourself. Stoner and the Underground Man are both PCs btw

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Hello /lit/ amazon just gave me a $20 gift card so I am rich enough to buy a book. I quit reading when I was 16 years old because of school (back in 2010). Please give me some recommendations.
I want an interesting page turner, genre doesn't matter as long as its not feminine bs. Basically your favorite interesting book.
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idk man read starship troopers I guess
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>>11814123
Lol no I need serious shit. Just ordered The day of the Jackal. Will cancel it and order something else if you guys have a suggestion.
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>>11814118
If you wanna read something simple get In Cold Blood, but if you want something more challenging you can get Neuromancer or Dune
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george orwell -1984 is a classic you can't go wrong with
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>>11814137
I guess I'll pick up dune. ty.

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I wanna buy a tablet for reading PDFs, the Kindle doesn't cut it, any recommendations?
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Tablets are worse for reading than kindles, how does it not cut it?
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there are e-readers with a screen the size of an A4 specifically made for pdfs. they cost over 500 euros tho.

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An article on the extreme leftism of people involved in universitys' first year experience programmes.

https://www.city-journal.org/first-year-experience-16032.html

>“This is the story of how despite all that privilege and opportunity, America made me loathe my black self, my brown skin,” she tells the audience. It’s not clear why one semiliterate teenage bigot should represent America, but Lythcott-Haims quickly segues into denunciations of the police, Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, and whites in general, to repeated applause from the (mostly white) audience. She explains why she has left a wide margin on each page of the book (“As a black woman I do not have access to the full page”) and reads a passage: “You think your whiteness makes you better than the rest of us. You make us your scapegoat. Your excuse for your violent rage.”

>This audience knows that racism is the all-consuming topic in higher education. It has been the most popular theme for common-read books for the last three years, according to the National Association of Scholars (NAS), which has tracked these programs across the country for the past decade. The latest report by the NAS, a group dedicated to reviving traditional liberal arts education (and a haven for nonprogressives in academia), analyzes some 350 schools’ common-read books and finds a “continuing obsession with race” as well as an “infantilization of students.” The three most frequently assigned books are by Coates, Bryan Stevenson, and Wes Moore, all dealing with America’s mistreatment of African-Americans. The rest of the top ten books almost all deal either with African-Americans or another social-justice identity group, whether it’s women, immigrants, Muslims, Latin-Americans, or Asian-Americans.
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>>11814017
>She explains why she has left a wide margin on each page of the book (“As a black woman I do not have access to the full page”)
lol I would had cringed so hard
anyways stop making these dumb threads here, take them to /pol/
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>>11814087
You're ignoring my point that right-wingers complain in every situation. Anything that isn't entirely under their command and ideology is criticized. The reputation of the uni is irrelevant here (though I do have to say mine is way better than the shit I've read on here about western unis)
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>>11814131
Because white people don't go to college to be bombarded with guilt.
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>>11814085
>my reputation on this imageboard
wow, what a fucking brave guy we got here.

It should be obvious that there is some truth to the marxist brainwashing meme when you look at how students at multiple different universities react when people that doesnt agree with their ideas are asked to do a lecture
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>>11814162
>You're ignoring my point that right-wingers complain in every situation. Anything that isn't entirely under their command and ideology is criticized
You can say the same about leftists
Is not a left/right thing is a people being idiots thing

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new to reading and i cant get enough of it, None of my friends read (i try to encourage them) though so i need people to talk to
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>>11807452
Money, economic
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>>11807369
kek

>>11807398
Good advice.

>>11809875
Not wrong.

>>11813881
You're right to be suspicious, but that does not deny that these books do help some individuals, such as OP. The important part is what book do you read next?

The ancients, however, seem to have lived more thoughtful and vigourous lives. Their words seem to me more digested than our contemporaries. Now, I agree with Nietzsche that the modern psychology is incredibly more complex, but this does not preclude the strength, conviction, and vivacity of the ancients. If the world read more Hellenics and the Hellenistics, our world would brim with far greater joys, virtues, and excitements.
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>>11813997
>Hellenics and the Hellenistics
any books you could advice?
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>>11807332
This
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>>11810747
Fuck off back to /r/ books where you belong. This is a literature board.
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>>11814079
It depends on what you like and what your interests are.

For Plato, the Symposium is the number one recommend; the Republic is the most canon; I personally really like Protagoras, Ion, and Lesser Hippias. The whole first tetralogy is great though: Euthrapho, Apology, Crito, Phaedo. The First Alcibides is also interesting; the NeoPlatonist's made it the first work of Plato for initiates.

For Aristotle, I haven't done much. I really enjoyed the Eudemian Ethics (over the Nicomachean). Otherwise, I've only read the Poetics over the above, and several fragments.

For the Stoics, none of the Hellenistic works really surive, but Epictetus' Enchiridion is a super easy and super short read which is great. Follow that either with Aurelius' Meditations, or Epictetus' Discourses. I would generally say avoid Seneca, as he's a poser -- but he has a few good letters and works; just keep him for last.

For the Epicureans, Epicurus' maxims are short and simple and great. Follow them with a few letters.

For the Cynics, just grab pic related. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Ultimately, I think a really good an easier primer would be if you do:


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Just read this, so I'm basically an expert on military strategy now.
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>>11812955
https://youtu.be/_GqIci7JA8c
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>>11813463
You need to remember that Sun Tzu wrote it 300 years before Julius Caesar and a few decades before Xerxes invaded Greece.
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Don't charge up hill and don't face chariots in the open. I'm going to apply these teachings to my life.
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>>11813463
I mean the #1 takeaway for me was 'pick your battles'
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>>11814149
this

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What's the point of visualising what you read when you read fiction? All you see is people talking
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>>11813998
Oops
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>>11813998
>actually got a girlfriend once (i admit we didn't have sex
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>>11813998
Include me in the screencap
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>>11813975
That's how I see the world bro. Nothing but people and things bulid by people or people talking about people related shit. Maybe it's the depression idk. I am saying that I just want to read a good story but I also want it to be entertaining. Too bad this world is too boring for that.
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>>11813998
Why would you get laid? All you see is a naked woman fucking

https://youtu.be/CUDKZDQCrJ8

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Whatever happened to prose poetry?

If you trace its origins it seemed like it was going to be the exciting new advancement in the modernisation of poetry
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>>11813119
anything requiring effort and focus is doomed
I may however try to write a novel in verse that would fit quite well in the 21st century cannon. not sure yet
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i just skip that boring shit in anthologies

He had three brothers commit suicide before he was born. The ending where Witt effectively commits himself to death (he replies "Good!" when told he has days to live) suggests his brothers' "suicides" were actually other philosophers who possibly were in fact able to become thinkers, lived their life, discovered their linguistic hold on metaphysics was waning, only to reach the same conclusion Wittgenstein eventually tried to cover up and also considered committing suicide. Three fucking times!




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