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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.org/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

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Are visual novels a giant waste of time that should be used on real books?
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>>10404045
This kid was a goddamn psychopath. What in the world did he have to gain by mocking everyone while they're in a constant near death situation, even when it put his own goals at risk? Fuck you yuni, you damn brat.
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>>10400487
Books are a giant waste of time that should be used on real life.
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>>10406121
Reading books is something people do in real life.
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>>10404045
he needed his own route :(
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>>10406130
No, reading books is taking part in fiction that someone else created from hours of thinking up scenarios that have little resemblance to how people actually act and how the world actually functions

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Three dates walk into a bar. The bartender hollers at them, in a loud voice:
'If I let the bread get as old as you I'd bottle it!'

The dates quietly replied, to each other:
'Figures, another grape.. '
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>>10405347
The grape comes to the bartender and asks;
"Can you give me a quality distillation?"
"Hold on,I will be sipping!"
Says the bartender.
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>>10405509
The grape bewildered by its new environs lifts its chin and sees, much to his surprise..

On its face-- in imprint-- three of the four fingers from its right hand.
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A horse walks into the same bar. The bartender turns bright-red, and puffs up:
'You.. !'

The horse puts his hooves in the air and whinnys:
'No drinks I only need to use the bathroom.'
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Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana
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>>10405347
Three horses walk into a rabbi.
Being stranded on a desert island:
He was salted!
What a twist.

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Do you finish one book at a time or read multiple books at once?
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So the answer to the second choice is yes or yes?
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>>10406149
Yes
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>>10406162
>>10406149
Yes
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Thank god someone finally made a flowchart for this.
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the flowchart market is over-saturated

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Why is it so hard to find good modern literature? Does it just not exist? Were the great books in the past big hits not long after they were released?
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>>10406056
>Where can I find stuff from recent years to read in the first place?
A bookshop, they have new releases at the front
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>>10406070
OP wanted good books, though.
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>>10405913
Likely because your tastes are dictated by what academics say is good. New books are so new that there's no time yet for them to be interred as canon.

Don't worry, after twenty years you'll know what good modern literature from the 2010s is. Other people will have already done the work for you.
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>>10406056
look for reviews in papers, awards, nominee lists for awards.
you can also check your local library's "recently released" section if it's got that. or ask a librarian, they like being helpful believe it or not.
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Too many dumb chicks work as gatekeepers.

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I've finished reading this for the first time today, quite the sinister little book. After more than 100 years since it's publication what is /lit/ verdict on it? Hoax or a scary prediction of the future?
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Both
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>>10406129
Both? Explain your reasoning?
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>>10406166
While its a fabrication the spirit of its message is totally correct
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>>10406122

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prague_Cemetery

>>10406174
>While its a fabrication the spirit of its message is totally correct

oh yeah. "nobody likes a smartass!" - Bordini, "the last remake of beau geste"

Quorn nuggets edition

FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21326.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21331.jpg
General:

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>>10405857
these fucking fags must have had a meltdown when trump recognized jerusalem as israel capitol
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>>10403709

26. I started reading light novels as well and found them to be a million times better than most fantasy novels, especially since light novels aren't written by faggots and dykes, nor are they pushing that agenda.
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>>10406139
>what is yaoi/yuri/shotacon/lolicon
you can't escape degeneracy
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>>10406154
Clearly defined degeneracy that sticks to its own category and doesn't demand representation in the others.
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>>10406139
Japan is the most degenerate of all countries.

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Any good further reading to refute atheist's arguments?
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>>10406136
>he hasn't read parmenides
>he doesn't understood that god is the being of infinitely divisible differentiated identity
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>>10406136
>God wouldn't be the countable universe, but the incountable

>He is, infinitely infinite

Okay, now I know you can't read.

Also, even in the bible, for what its worth, God becomes beings, puts himself equally infinite and finite when he impregnates Mary, devours Jonah, and shows his wrath at Gamorrah. I don't know what idiots seem to think God is some man shaped after him, magic sorcerer bullshit, but its irritating and besides the point.
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>>10406157
>Parmenides
>infinitely divisible differentiated
I think you're the one who hasn't read Parmenides
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>>10405997
rationalists are a fucking plague
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>>10406157
Sounds like you are describing Abraxas more than the Christian God.

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Time for unpopular opinions: I would consider myself a "normie" who prefers books I enjoy reading versus literature. I read whatever pleases me for fiction, and focus on good, educational non-fiction for growth.

I generally try to avoid modern literature due to the fact that it is almost always poorly-written trash with a strong and unpleasant political bend. This is generally not the case of literature written 50+ years ago, hence why I am here. Most modern literature only represents one point of view politically, and most of literature is strongly political in nature.

The reality is most people who read regularly do not have this same point of view as the authors, who tend to be either elitist old-world leftists, college campus types, or repressed minorities. Therefore, no one buys these books. They seem to exist solely for the satisfaction of some political narrative of the publisher. You never honestly see people reading these terrible books.

On the other hand, genre fiction is usually utter trash, so therefore you have a small segment of the population who purchases nothing other than books to read in order to waste time, furthering the debasement of literature itself, and those who have been scorned too many times by poorly written books and have given up reading all together (which is sadly most Americans).

Books can be so much more. People always want stories to read. However, if nothing but garbage is printed, why should we be surprised that no one wants to read it?

Personally, I can't remember the last book I enjoyed that was written in the last 50 years. Society took a nosedive a long time ago in regards to books and literature and it will likely never return.

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are any of you familiar with the nation of islam's religious texts? how are they? seems like interesting stuff, especially yakub.
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>>10396720
>"You was robin' the Germans! You was oppressing them and taking all their money"

They ain't wrong senpai
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>>10401970
>MUH DICK creation theory
This shit is gold
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>>10400657
Wew, that's some rich gravy. If I mined Serrano for material that I than put to use in a series of shitty YA books, do you think anyone would notice?
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>>10405916
I'd read that series desu
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>>10396720
WHAT ABOUT THE NINE MILLION NIGGAS?

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What are some books about inceldom or with incel characters.
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>>10399949
Why does it matter what age you have sex?
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>>10400529
>reduced
You mean expanded right?
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>>10402563
Hey, I hope to be president one day! I am bretty much Trump.
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>>10401303
I'm 18.
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>>10405667
>to practice
That is LITERALLY the purpose. What more do you fucking want? It's just an excuse to not do it.

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what's a word for a belief that's widely held because it's popular to have it. Specifically a term one could use to describe the collective opinion that the prequel trilogy was bad. Not going to argue that's undererved I'm honestly just looking for a word to use. On here I'd just call it a meme but can't say that in public.
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>>10404886
doxa
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>>10404886
>but can't say that in public.
It is outgrowing the internet.
I've seen it used in pop-sci books.
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>>10404895
>Doxa is a Greek word meaning common belief or popular opinion. Used by the Greek rhetoricians as a tool for the formation of argument by using common opinions, the doxa was often manipulated by sophists to persuade the people, leading to Plato's condemnation of Athenian democracy
that's a really good word but it'd come across as showing off if I say that in public. If there isn't a single word/term that works, how could you describe the type of opinion I'm talking about. Like a 'fad' but for opinions.
>>10404910
yeah, normal people can say it but I'm a nerd so if I say it there's a negative reputation surrounding it. Like normally people think memes they think facebook, whereas if I say it they'd think "that guy uses the internet too much".
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>>10404923
Another pretentious phrase for it is idee recue

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Daily Quran thread

>Quote of the day
Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? none holds them up except Allah. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. – Quran (16:79)
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>>10406105
I don't know dude, but it worked. It's right there in the first verse of the first surah

>In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
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>>10406049
ultimate /lit/ gf - you fuck her and still manage to read your [insert your book here]
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Which is the most literal English translation of the Qu'ran?
>inb4 learn Arabic you fucking kafir
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>>10406128
Literal doesn't necessarily mean good, especially with the Quran which is written in difficult poetic arabic.

This article is a good overview:
http://www.meforum.org/717/assessing-english-translations-of-the-quran

Author is a professor of arabic, he particularly recommends the Arthur Arberry and Muhammad Asad translations. You can get a pdf of the Asad translation here: http://www.muhammad-asad.com/Message-of-Quran.pdf
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Kindly move your religitardness to another board.

I know the koran is fiction so it kinda fits here, but there is enough hate in it to make Mein Kamf look tame.

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serious question--what would the literary equivalent of movies like pic related be?

books that feature really intense, emotional, edgy revenge stories with powerful endings. stuff that would have you in total suspense.

I would love it if there was a genre of books like that.
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>>10405938
Do you not know what Berserk is?
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>>10405973

no, but I thought it was a sci-fi thing?
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>>10405985
It's a manga my dude.
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Count of Monte Cristo. Greatest revenge story ever made
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>>10406008

I just downloaded the whole thing, thanks

>>10406016

someone already said that but thanks

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Does /lit/ even Wodehouse?
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>anons who hate wodehouse
how? i know we hate fun as a board, but wodehouse is hardly objectionable. even making broadcasts for the nazis didn't make him objectionable because what else is one to do when the gestapo asks you nicely?
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>>10405172
As opposed to the British...
"I rather fancy a shit, Jeeves. If you would be so kind as to escort me to the privy."
"Pardon me sir, but this hardly seems an appropriate time to go stooling about."
"Oh? And what do you propose is the optimal hour at which to drop brown, Jeeves?"
"Poo-turdy BM, sir."
HARHARHAR
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>>10405172
>>20% of audience have heart attacks
lmao
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>>10405172
You might have had a case 20 years ago but British comedy is pure cancer now
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>>10405575
tpbp
well done, lad.



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