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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

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Proust, Joyce and who knows how many more literary greats wanked their willy so why shouldn't I?

Is nofap a meme or will I become a lit god if I keep it up?
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>>9440106
Nofap is to stop addiction, not fapping altogether

Some people took this notion and made a culture of personality around it
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>>9440106
Fapping once a day or every two days is healthy. More than that is not, also watching any amount of porn is really bad for your psychological health.

Nofap is a meme, noporn is patrician.
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nofap is to reduce or regain self control and to stop porn

nofap + sex is nice tho
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>>9440127
Should I just use my imagination then or stuff instagram pics?
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Well if you're a hardcore Catholic you're not allowed to fap.

Or use condoms, or use birth control, or have sex before marriage at all...

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What are some solid books against democracy?
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>>9439836
This.
Its insulting for a sailor to be able to tell a farmer how to farm. Just as it is insulting for the farmer to tell the sailor how he should sail his ship.
Thats all democracy is.
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>>9439824

No.

Why is it that every time people have this discussion the monarch has to either be Louis XIV or Elizabeth II?

Constitutions can have whatever the fuck is deemed appropriate in them. It can just be "The monarch can't piss in a bucket without supervision".

So you set out rules that the monarch is not above, and in other things the monarch has leeway. You don't need to absolutely neuter them constitutionally to have a constitutional monarchy.
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>>9439875
Houellebeq is glorifiying Tocqueville,even though he admired democracy,because already knew that in the future,it can lead to a overregulated dictatorship destroying the family by remplacing it by the state as the father,also it's very well written hon hon hon it's beautiful
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>>9439717
>Carl Schmitt.
Only real answer.
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>>9439513

Did you read?
>>9439141


The premise was acknowledged by >>9439174 in his affirmation that it was actually a plus for non-democrats. Due to this your argument lacks standing. The argument is now over whether or not censorship is a good or bad thing, and how that reflects upon the states that choose it. We don't need you muddying the waters.

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Does anyone's world-building compare to his?
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God's
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The Holy Spirit who writes all books

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You lied to me. You told me Lattimore's translations of Homer were the best. His Odyssey is clunky unpoetic shit. Fuck you faggots. Should have stuck with Fitzgerald.
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>>9440070
I agree really, but if you're still going to read it anyway, i'd still go for a poetic translation. At least Pope is actually great to read in English for example.
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>the best translation is <insert only translation I have read here>

How every one of these threads go down.
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>>9440114
and this is why translation threads on here are always retarded. Even that guy who made that divine comedy translation guide who had read a load of translation had never read the original.
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>>9440139
I just read the new Red and the Black translation after buying it half way through for my birthday, and it was so much better i went back and reread the whole thing
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>>9440139
>Even that guy who made that divine comedy translation guide who had read a load of translation had never read the original.
How embarrassing.

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To whoever bought my erotica on Amazon, thank you.
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>>9440123
>Only one hooker remained; second if you counted God's mother
really?
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>>9440123
They both read like my diary desu
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>>9440123
You don't have an author page up?
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>>9440146
...
Like a few times. A couple other times with hookers.

>>9440128
>>9440149
Thanks for the chuckle.

>>9440155
Fuck you though.
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>>9440160
No I guess I need to do that since I'm gonna publish again in the near future.

In 4 sentences, write a short romantic story.
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>>9439397
what? you came when she spoke to you? faggot
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>>9434964

>Ooga booga caveman
>Cougar hunt for caveman
>Caveman take spear
>Caveman stick spear in bush
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>>9439580
Definitely not a true story.

I'm still a virgin[/ spoiler]
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She was exhausted, but ultimately extremely satisfied with her night spent with him. She quietly wondered how it was even possible for a man to stay so virile for so long. It was a serviceable date, but this was the icing on the cake, especially after so many dull meetings with would-be suitors. Meanwhile, he stewed in his discontent, seriously considering lightening his grip when he masturbates from now on.
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>>9439580
Also, a sentence isn't the same as carrying out a sentence.

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Honest opinion, is IJ worth reading why or why not?
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Memes aside, it is. There's some great, memorable scenes in there.
>Mario keeping Hal from sleeping in their dorm room
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It's ONLY worth reading the entire thing. Reading 200 pages and then quitting is worse than not trying it at all.
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>>9440143
Thank you anon, my 3 dollars at goodwill weren't wasted.
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>>9440145
Challenge accepted
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>>9440148
It's a steal for three bucks. Consider donating the other 17$ to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, in order to honor St. Dave.

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Is he any good? I have exhausted most of the first- and second-tier American pomo fabulists
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I met him before. Real nice guy.
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>>9440097
Love that flat New York inflection. But is he worth my time? My time is valuable.
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>>9440110
Time. That's all he talked about. I tried to leave him a few times, but he would put his hand on my shoulder and say "My friend!" He gave me his watch and told me to ask him the time so he could guess. He guessed correctly then he said something like "I was too shy to tell you but I work here and the fee for my service is five dollars." I gave him a five and he almost left without his watch. He came running back nearly in tears and told me to give him the "damn thing."
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>>9440152
Is this a pasta I've not seen before?

Forever War edition

Fantasy
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:

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>>9439908
Not bad faggot. I'm more of a fantasy buff, and lazy as fuck so I don't think my autism is activated enough for me to spend 2 hours plus(from experience it's probably 3 plus hours) doing this.

~Chartanon
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>Tfw when you spoil people here with your ARC

Not sure if spoiling or hyping though
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>>9438813
Exactly, the anime is trash and that's why I'm comparing them.
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>>9439404
Man just wait. That shit is nowhere near over yet, it has lasting impacts on the rest of the series even up to the final book.
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>>9439460
There's also fun times ahead, you still haven't met two of the best characters who liven up the series a ton whenever they're around. Sort of like kruppe, though less grating.

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In your best prose, describe a girl undressing.
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>>9439531
>>9440105
>I drank this in one long sip.
Wouldn't a "long sip" be more of a gulp?
>answering the call of some destiny previously unlooked for
What did you mean by this?
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Tightening her fists as hard as she could, Nancy gathered the energy required to explode into a god-like being, leaving scraps of clothing on the floor and walls.
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As I entered the room, the chrysalis began to gently hum. As the frequency built in intensity, small cracks began to emerge in the pearlescent hull, leaking ichor reminiscent of pepto bismol mixed with the excrement of someone who has taken too much pepto bismol. With a sound like a hunder thousand starving crows turning on their children for sustenance, the avatar of Shub-Niggurath, the Goat Mother of a Thousand Young, emerged from gestation. She was kind of hot, I guess, once you get past all the sludge.
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She hurried to take her clothes off.
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>>9440112
The "long sip" would be taken in slower allowing for more savoring than a "gulp." Like a long and steady drink of water or inhalation of a nice smell. A gulp would be what a fuggin nerd would do taking in the scene of a girl undressing.

And as for the "destiny previously unlooked for," i would be curious to hear your own takeaway. I intended, loosely, to imply that the girl was in the situation after the narrator had led her there, through flirtation or what have you. The girl is innocent, and didn't lust after the narrator until she found herself in this situation, preparing to do something she may never have guessed she would be doing that day when she woke up that morning. There's the implication that her body (her thumbs) are taking the wheel so to speak, even though in her head she is afraid.

Anyway, I wrote it in a couple minutes, so it was very free and loose.

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Can somebody explain post-modernism to me without memeing?
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>>9439158
Just like post-modernism.
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Eugh

Literary post-modernism is widely defined as an artistic movement in which artists seek to involve their audience on a metatextual level, such that the experience of reading itself becomes a core element of the message or premise of the work.
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>>9438187
Postmodernism is a Jewish ideology which seeks to deconstruct Western society and its foundations, from its ethics to its familial structure. It is trash tier.
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>>9440131

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We haven't done one of these in awhile. Post your shelves and others rate you. Here we go....
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>>9438102
My paperbacks are in a different shelf
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>>9439751
all those penguins
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>>9439767
awful bait
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>>9438102
>6 copies of the hobbit

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Can any other philosopher hold up to this guy?
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>>9440036
Soren Kierkegaard has provided an ultimately satisfactory answer, that faith is at the top and bottom of it all. I can recognize that this is true and still not have faith however, which I suppose is satisfactory in the same way biting a bullet is.
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Yesterday," Peterson said to the television audience, "in the typewriter in front of the Olivetti showroom on Fifth Avenue, I found a recipe for Ten Ingredient Soup that included a stone from a toad's head. And while I stood there marveling a nice old lady pasted on the elbow of my best Haspel suit a little blue sticker reading THIS INDIVIDUAL IS A PART OF THE COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY FOR GLOBAL DOMINATION OG THE ENTIRE GLOBE. Coming home I passed a sign that said in ten-foot letters COWARD SHOES and heard a man singing "Golden earrings" in a horrible voice, and last night i dreamed there was a shoot- out at our house on Meat Street and my mother shoved me in a closet to get me out of the line of fire." The emcee waved at the floor manager to turn Peterson off, but Peterson kept talking. "In this kind of world," Peterson said, "absurd if you will, possibilities nevertheless proliferate and escalate all around us and there are opportunities for beginning again. I am a minor artist and my dealer won't even display my work if he can help it but minor is as minor does and lightning may strike even yet. Don't be reconciled. Turn off your television sets," Peterson said, "cash in your life insurance, indulge in a mindless optimism. Visit girls at dusk. Play the guitar. How can you be alienated without first having been connected? Think back and remember how it was." A man on the floor in front of Peterson was waving a piece of cardboard on which something threatening was written but Peterson ignored him and concentrated on the camera with the little red light. The little red light jumped from camera to camera in an attempt to throw him off balance but Peterson was too smart for it and followed wherever it went. "My mother was a royal virgin," Peterson said, "and my father a shower of gold. My childhood was pastoral and energetic and rich in experiences which developed my character. As a young man I was noble in reason, infinite in faculty, in form express and admirable, and in apprehension �" Peterson went on and on and although he was, in a sense, lying, in a sense he was not.
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>>9440041
Augustine left the Manicheism, but the Manicheism didn't leave Augustine.
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He was just a faggy and lazy Hegel.
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>>9438950
this
also is philosophy or existentialism knowledge needed to start with him?

I read Moby-Dick, and am 100 pages in so far. The primary reason I bought this book is because Metal Gear Solid V has pays homage to it, and I want to see what kind of parallels are between those two media; secondary I want to be introduced to a different kind of prose since my literary knowledge is pretty chaste. Need to say it's a pretty good read: I like the syntax, the stream of consciousness-prose and narrative-structure. Since English isn't my mother tongue there is sometimes a chain of words I don't know, but cannot bother to look every word up since it breaks my flow, concentration and adds a lot of time.

PS: ADHD-fags reading a stack of books aren't welcome.
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reading pic related cuz I love getting memed hard. 62 pages in and where is all the misery and violence I was promised? I'm appreciating the reader-friendly structure.

>>9437395
pay attention going further in, I got a bit lost by the last few chapters. imho you're already past the best bits.

>>9438785
fucking masterpiece right there

>>9436523
maximum comfy

>>9436434
I've skirted around reading this for years.

>>9435752

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>>9440079
its 1000 pages long and you're complaining about it 60 pages in. top pleb lad
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>>9440079
>>stream of consciousness
>>narrative
Can you explain what's wrong with that? Stream of consciousness is a narrative style, and it occsionally occurs whenever Ishmael interrupts himself, delving into one aspect deeper, and then deeper, before continuing with the actual subject/story.

And as aforementioned, it doesn't have notes. I didn't know there would be so many words with an entirely different meaning or I've never heard of.
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>>9436315
>wanting to read anything before having read Shakespeare and the Bible
No. Just no.
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>>9440103
SoC refers to texts that follow a character as if in real time (see The bell jar, catcher in the rye) and usually this style is consistent throughout a text whereas in Moby Dick Ishmael is telling you about the whaling industry rather than his moment-to-moment experience/interpretation of the world. He is treated as a conduit for the reader to understand whaling yes, but it's not a good/strong example of SoC imhoartissubjective. In terms of narrative, Moby Dick barely has a narrative/plot as the vast majority of the text is spent shoveling technical, real world info on whaling at you (hence it's often described as 'encyclopedic'). Yes of course there is a fucking plot and that is what gets highlighted by most other representations of Moby Dick but the book itself is more focused on delivering information - I for instance was not swept up by the narrative nearly as much as the lush descriptions and detail. Please continue reading, I don't mean to be a cunt about it and put you off, just Narrative and SoC are not the first things I'd highlight about the book but then I'm not sure exactly whats going on around page 100. I highly recommend picking up an annotated version before you get much further in.



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