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What do you wish screenwriters would do more often?
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>>6222498
fucking this
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>>6222498
This is retarded.
>>6222517
This is similarly retarded.
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>>6222498
Do you know what adaptation means?
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>>6220222
not build a fucking catastrophe in every story.
man we get it. life is fucked up, so what.
no need to display it on the screen all the time.
thats what i like about boyhood.
interesting story, but no one has to die and he didnt get gay
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>>6222523
>>6222526
>writing a script based on a book is as high an as writing a book

Go write a book based on a movie script while you're at it, faggots.

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>title doesn't make sense 'til you've finished the book
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>>6221641
Troy?
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>>6221619
"The tale of Illium"
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>"Finally, after all these years, I have completed my Odyssey"

Seriously, Homer?
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>>6221619
it comes from greek world "γέλιο kώλο μου" later it was translated into proto latin in which it sounded "ayyy lemaoes". It means to make contact with beings not from earth.
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>The Title; or, Another Much Longer Title That No-One Uses

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Hey /lit/

I've been raised by a pretty reactionary conservative in a very very liberal part of the United States.

I'm 19 and in University and just figuring things out politically in my own head. I've done debate and am majoring in Political Science planning to get a law degree next and to go into politics (not /r/iamverysmart-ing, it's necessary to the story)

I think that when I run someday that I want to run as a republican, but it's really conflicting to me. I just don't really know what I believe.

I lean towards austerity, restrictions on immigration, and detente when it comes to business.

The thing is that I'm like 60% conservative (american) but the big names of the Republican party at the moment bother me.

HERE'S THE MORAL OF THE STORY FOR THOSE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ABOVE

Can someone on here sell conservatism to me?

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>>6221795
what do you guys think of stuff like this?
http://www.bluelabour.org/
i've been curious about this, it seems like fascism without the pomp and death-wish (i intend this to be a compliment)
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>>6222474
I was a blue Labourite for a while but their economic commitment to greater equality is little more than an egalitarian fetish - no different in principle than the socially egalitarian agenda they look to turn away from. I left the party and joined UKIP soon after.
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>>6222448
Yes, but nor was he a reactionary who couldn't comprehend the shift in the order of the world. Read Burke from a mechanics' perspective and you'll see the themes of licence and democracy jump straight out at you.
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>>6222506
He used them in a situated polemical sense. A 21st century Burkean shouldn't be an opponent of democracy or a homophobe since Burkean political argument doesn't have a metaphysical basis which renders things eternally wrong or wicked.
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>>6222501
how is it no different?
how is society to be defended otherwise when labour has been devalued by technological advancement?
abolishing inheritance tax? now?
convince me, i just don't see it

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>whites call blacks and other races "Barbarians"
>blacks & Natives Welcome whites to their homeland
>whites use trust to plunder & destroy, all in the name of "savages"
>it's always the whites who betray for a glint of gold or a glimpse of a scroll
>whites teach their greed of gold and plunder to other races

Can you recommend me some books that capture how Caucasians used trust to gain knowledge from a people and returned years later to plunder? Like what they did in Egypt and other nations for their gold and knowledge?
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>>6222258
People should start realizing we're all equally shit. It's weird how we have the ''everyone equal'' part down, but we're still so goddamn proud of our city/nation/continent/race.
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All I'm saying is, White's were clearly the smart ones here. If what you say above is true, then White's basically waltzed in, tricked the fuck out of these great nations and enslaved them as well.
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>>6222275
It's degenerate to not take pride in your heritage, nation, and race. You think it makes you some kind of enlightened cosmopolitan, but in reality all it signifies is that your people are decadent and are soon to be supplanted by some more virile culture with no qualms about national and racial pride (see: China abroad, Muslim immigrants at home).
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>>6222258
Always makes me kek when reactionaries try and change every conversation to the 'liberal' bogeyman or blame them for any irrelevant issue because they are utterly obsessed with them
Essentially:
>Stupidity and insecurity
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>>6222509
Liberals are responsible for all the problems in the world. Fact.

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Your favorite insane book character
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>>6216577
Mohammad the pedophile prophet
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>>6222505
not that guy, but you can't really be this fucking stupid
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>>6222519
Oh so concepts don't exist now? Only the physically tangible?
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>>6222438
I'm not claiming that insanity exists. I'm not claiming anything other than that you're claiming that it doesn't, at which point you have to explain on what grounds you make that claim.
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>>6222505
Except that oxygen is clearly defined where as insanity is a collection of loose associations. Even when diagnosed, it's based on collections of symptoms which vary even within classified illnesses.
For insanity to exist, sanity would have to be clearly defined, where it isn't.

>don't listen to me I don't think anything exists.

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did you ever thief a book?
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>>6221052
Nicked a box of books from some dudes garage but they looked like they were going to the dump/charity anyway.
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>>6221117
Don't steal from small / used bookstores, steal from fucking B&N, Fnac or whatever chainstore there is in your vicinities
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Stolen, as in taking for free a printed copy from a library or similar: yes, I have.
Stolen, as in stealing the words, or book ideas of someone else: no, and I hope there is a special horrid place in hell for those who do.
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>>6221166
Their choice of books is often limited
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I stole a backpack full of books for my high school girlfriend's summer school lit class once

I gave up shoplifting when I became an adult, but I miss it

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Hello /lit/
I have an assignment for class that goes as follows:
"To build up on the knowledge and understanding of World War I that you are developing this semester by exploring the life and work of one of the major literary figures to emerge from the war and/or postwar"

I would like to know of any smaller writers instead of the biggest ones on the list. The ones included on it are:
Wilfred Owen, Siegfried Sassoon, Vera Brittain, Jaroslav Hašek, Ernst Jünger, Henri Barbusse, Stefan Zweig, Rebecca West, Robert Graves, Ernest Hemingway, Erich Maria Remarque, Pat Barker

Any other suggestions would be great!
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>>6222459
It can be difficult to deduce public or private opinion if you only examine bureaucratic records, and public opinion can definitely be of interest. Say for example that political balance shifts quickly, how do you tell what people really thought about it? Did they shift stance wholeheartedly? Was it a lesser of evils situation? Did they simply lose faith on one without gaining in another? Letters, diary, fiction, these are relevant in the study of such things.
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>>6222490
OP specifically states that he's looking for authors who aren't on the list of suggestions.
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>>6222492
Not really, because you're taking individual and in 1914-1918 in the case of extended diary and fiction, and extant survival letters collection a very very bourgeois-aristocratic opinion.

Did you know that it took to December 1914 for the elite to destroy anti-war sentiment amongst workers in every country in Europe? August through December. Union records, newspapers' circulation rates and editorial policies, secret police reports. These are a better ground for "public opinion." Stop individuating the historiographical subject, we work with individuals documents because of survival and the limited capacity to read, not because it is the best way forward.

Incidentally, due to the "diary" problem we know far more about the ultraright of the German Youth Movement's reaction to August than we did about social democratic workers' reactions, until the 1980s and 1990s.
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>>6222497
If I'm interpreting your first sentence correctly, you're saying that letters etc. paint a very narrow picture and in the case of '14-'19 a very bourgeois-aristocratic one?
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>>6222520
Letters do paint a very narrow picture, they're not great for public opinion, and they're selective. The kinds of letters that OP is going to be able to access will be bourgeois-aristocratic ones. The same is true with diaries. T E Lawrence's diaries are a great example. Epic work of self-manipulation. Wonderful view point. Horribly contrived.

There's nothing wrong with the history of the bourgeoisie or the aristocracy, but these are crap entry points into the history of WWI. Even a circumscribed history of WWI would be better, WWI as a history of disillusioned fin de siecle bourgeois intellectuals. Great. And their novels are still not as useful as extensive letter collections, newspapers, art books, societies for or against's minutes, etc.

Novels are deceptive bitches.

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Anglophones and Francophones killed Western philosophy.
Discuss.
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>>6220802
Anglophones are just saying Germans never contributed anything worthwhile and not even bothering to wear a pretty face while they do it
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>>6220772
Anglophones and Francophones didn't kill Western philosophy.
Discuss.
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Western philosophy has been irrelevant since the Greeks.
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>>6220783
>When once asked about the status of English as a philosophical language, he curtly responded that it had ceased being one in 1066.

Based Heidi
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The Greeks killed Western philosophy before it began.

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What is the most aesthetic form of suicide?

I was thinking either walking into the ocean on a full moon, never to return would be pretty high up there?

of course it requires the self control to not panic and die crawling for air
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>>6222254
>>Drowning survival reflexes are unconscious and powerful
for the weak only
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>>6222205
I see two equally aesthetic ways.

The suicide where you meander, leaving a blood-trail of past selves, until some complication of your life-choices leaves you with the realization that all of it was for not you're left the same way you came, in a submission. Utterly incapable of release. Grinding away until your health falters with age, and you decide to quit manually breathing.

The suicide that no one ever knows about:
Slowly cutting off contact with friends and family leading them to believe everything is fine.
3d print a firearm, head to a national forest some place you won't be found dig a hole on the side of a hill that will fill eventually, set your head over a bucket full of acid to melt the plastic gun. Bullet to the brain. Exit.
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Shoot school out and record everything with VHS camera. This way you will defo get reblogged on few aesthetics/vaporwave blogs on tumblr
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>>6222205
It's actually not aesthetic in any sense whatsoever. The very act of suicide is negation -- you are negating your physical self. Philosophical suicide is the worst though, in my opinion. Negation becomes your God instead.
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>>6222205
Cause your body to stop functioning by sheer willpower

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Post good books that you never see talked about on /lit because they are rare, obscure or otherwise not widely known. Talk a bit about them and why you think they at good.

/lit usually talks about the same books that we all know about so if you know of a good book you never see on here then share it with the board.
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>>6221952
in the last sharethread we had somebody post a .zip file full of japanese lit with lots of great stuff, look for it in the archive.
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>>6222365
Didn't we used to have a bunch of ebook archives of various categories?
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>>6207555
Babbitt is a great book anon, even America wants to make it seem Lewis never existed
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Itt: Pure unaltered shit.
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>>6222518
>ITT
I think you meant "ITP."

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Isn't the ego itself a spook?
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>>6222502
In what sense?
Are you poorly translating "Geist"?

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Why do you ignore him, /lit/?
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>>6222363
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>>6222395
It's about writers who have been published by the age of 25. Thanks.
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>>6222411
Gives you hope in humanity, doesn't it? It's just a few spoiled eggs, it's not a widely spread behavioral pattern. Now if only people would stop replying to the threads in question, I'd turn into an optimist.
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>>6222363
>confesses to making all of these shit threads all of the time
>"but I'm patrician"

just kill yourself
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>>6222504
Not yet, my friend.

so what's everyone listening to when they read or write?

I find that most of them are 40 - 60 minutes, which is an ideal writing session

ideally, try to include:
>a link/playlist
>the length of the album
>a brief description of the music

and to make this more /lit/-related, also briefly describe what you're writing and/or writing

I've been grinding on these for the last week or so, but I've been looking for something new

Journey - Timecop1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egAB2qtVWFQ

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>>6222462
Have you listened to Rosetta?

And since you mentioned Swans, have you listened to Godspeed You! Black Emperor yet?

Since you mentioned My Bloody Valentine, you might want to check out Swirlies, Sweet Trip, and Jesu. The last of which recently released an extremely good album very recently, the best of their career.
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>>6222470
http://www.last.fm/user/VivaVoxLegis
This is more or less what I have been lisening to in the past 6 months.
I recently DL Godspeed, but my headphones and speakers are broken/400 km away so it will be the first thing I'll be checking out.
Also my ear is buzzing so I'll stop using headphones for some time.
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>>6221488
noise music, japanese noise, stuff like Merzbow or Throbbing Gristle. might sound pretentious but id rather listen to this or just be in complete silence, normal music and anything with vocals is too distracting. noise relaxes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUlPrRHfWAI
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>>6221533
>unable to multitask

Why do you spastics believe this? Listening to music while you read or write is some ADHD shit. Both the music and the literature suffer.

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I just bought Ulysses and it turned out to be huge to the point it is unreadable. Which version should I buy after selling this one?
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>>6222278
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>>6222278
I bought one in german because I generally prefer reading in German
I think I might have done goofd tbh
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I have the Penguin Classics but haven't read it yet. Is that not a good edition to have?
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>>6222278
There are actually two Finnish translations.
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>>6222356
> Latin not translated to Classical Chinese
Utmost pleb. Burn it with fire.


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