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Sick4Sicktorrin a. greathouseI think my lover’s cane is sexy. The way they walklike a rainstorm stumbles slow across the landscape.How, with fingers laced together, our boots & canesclick in time—unsteady rhythm of a metronome’s limpwrist. All sway & swish, first person I ever saw walk witha lisp. Call this our love language of unspokens:We share so many symptoms, the first time we thoughtto hyphenate our names was, playfully, to christenourselves a new disorder. We trade tips on medication,on how to weather what prescriptions make you sickto [maybe] make you well. We make toasts withacetaminophen bought in bulk. Kiss in the airportComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
How do I escape this, philosophically speaking?
>>25247641Just do something is the philosophical counter. Doing and failing is better than doing nothing.
>>25252527Oh how I hope it could be like that for me. I don't even know what I *really* want. Don't have any talents that immediately stand out either. What are you making? Some creative, artistic project? All I can think about is I have a passing interest in intellectual work and academia. I *can* see myself as a lifelong academic. It'd fit me like a glove, provided I found a way to make money. It's just not what I *think* I want. Dyktf?
>>25252527what kind of projects? I have some ideas of big stuff but honestly I don't care that much about them, so I give up fast.I always tell myself that if I was really passionate about them I wouldn't have to force myself like my life depended on it. Now I've internalised this and if I get the urge to play the guitar I don't even bother taking it out because I know I need to practice for a few weeks before I can get back my picking speed and stuff but I'll get bored before then so i don't even try
There's something seriously wrong with me, I think I have to get rid of my pc entirely
>>25252697Overthinking is your problem. When people say, "Just do it", they don't mean, "Yeah it sucks ass but you have to be miserable for 10,000 hours", they mean, "It sucks ass at first, but over time you find shortcuts to make doing the difficult thing 100x easier until eventually it's like the same amount of effort as playing a video game with exceptions here and there". But unlike playing video games the dopamine hit is WAY bigger and it actually earns you money, status, respect, gives you knowledge, helps you develop your personality, it's great.
Threatrical Slopping Life EditionStubbed >>25245204>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Fang Yuan has eyes only for dat fishussy
>>25252663YOU CAN'T JUST ADD "USSY" TO THE END OF WORDS, YOU COOMER RETARD. HOW WOULD YOU EVEN FUCKING PRONOUNCE THAT WORD? "FISH-USSY?" "FIS-HUSSY?" "FI-SHUSSY?" IT MAKES NO GODDAMN SENSE. FISH DON'T EVEN HAVE VAGAINAS THEY HAVE A PAPILLA. I SWEAR TO CHRIST EVERY TIME A GAY MORON LIKE YOU BUTCHERS THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND SAYS SOMETHING LIKE "BUSSY" DO YOU KNOW WHAT I PICTURE? I PICTURE A CITY BUS AND SOME MORON LIKE YOU TRYING TO FUCK ITS EXHAUST PIPE.
>>25252685>I PICTURE A CITY BUS AND SOME MORON LIKE YOU TRYING TO FUCK ITS EXHAUST PIPE.This nigga's never seen dragons fucking cars
I gave up writing should I also kill my self?
>>25252695The last resort should be to write fetish content at least
just read picrelis there a decent rebuttal to this?cause at the moment its not looking good for the trans identifying peoples of the AGP persuasion
>>25252686Not reading all this. You'll never be a woman. Start making peace with it or you're in for a rough life.
>>25252691 Probably should’ve read a little of it. Or even just the last sentence.
>>25252699Sorry, I saw the wall of text and assumed it was trannyanon who has been here seemingly all day.
>>25244503a lot of people see trannies as shamans of a wierd retarded idea, close to postmodernism bullshit , that if it were true would end the enlightenment , out both just a pure sence of evil, and a perverted sence of hope , only made to put onself in delusional situations.that objective scientific reality will explode on its phase if trannies , do tranny shit for too long.they also they they rape children and are otherwise drags of people to be around , because of that as a principle. basically libshit and leftist prophets , but only for the philosophically repugnant parts.can't say I can blame them under that understandig. it also gets them off , out of being so smart and rational , once bullying the mystic and the religios man gets boring.t.tranny.
Friendly fire happening among the anti-trans brigade. Doesn’t matter who gets it, as long as someone gets it.
I need history book recs as exciting to read as this, please. I'm talking medieval batshit craziness starring iconic chads and chuds. Thanks.
Can anyone recommend historical authors as accessible as Dan Jones?
why do you read more than one history book?>their official ambition was x, but the recorded events confirm that {five recurring hidden motives} were more important in the end.Zzzzzz>when the savant heard the news about the epic betrayal, he destroyed his gift for the King and killed himself in a spectacular auto-da-feZzzzzzzz>when the King learned about his suicide, he said something so witty and laconic, it survived into pop cultureZzzzzz
Battle for the Island Kingdom by Don Hollway
>>25247616Desmond Seward
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33 years old. ESL. Nearing 10 years of NEETdom. I have recently latched onto the idea of writing a novel and downloaded a bunch of style guides, poetry books and philosophical books. Here's the thing, I am questioning my motivation. There's a part of me that wants to do this in order to make sense of my wasted life. The reasoning being "All my years of suffering would've been worth it if it leads me to write at least a decent novel". All my friends are in tech and have climbed the corporate ladder. This would at least set me apart from. It doesn't feel like a fully passionate reason to get into writing. Am I wearing my time? Should I pick up a different thing to focus on ? Or can This be a worthwhile hobby to pursue?Some people have told me to spend time on something that could help me get a job but I can't think of anything that would feel meaningful to me (also tbf I am not really in a position to be picky). Like I don't know if I can genuinely enjoy coding(this is often the most recommended) or some shit at this age.
>>25247110Write a short story and post it in this thread OP. It doesn't even have to be goodIf you can't do that you might as well just give up writing
>>25250481How long should be a short story?
>>25250481O.K I'll write a small story. If you read this thread again, promise me you'll give your thoughts on it
>>25250615Not that long, even a few paragraphs will suffice. What's important is getting into the motion of writing. It is one thing to think about writing, and another thing entirely to write. It is in execution of an idea where one moves from the fluid infinitude of possibility to the limitations of actuality. When a story, song, idea, image, etc. is taken from possibility and pushed into actuality, it gains concreteness, a reality that can be achieved no other way.>>25251484I will OP, if the thread is still up
I have a similar life to you op, im a neet hikkimori with schizophrenia. I used to wanted to be a painter, i would draw and paint, then that got tiring and cost a lot to buy supplies with what me being a poor fag.So around my mid 20s i decided to self study poetry. I am now 35 and have hundreds of poems in a file on my computer. I dont know what exactly do you want, you want fame and money? then quit, art isnt for you. You know even the most famous poets had day jobs, ts ellliott worked at a bank if i recall.You want to make art because you have the art in you and it has to get out, not because you think youll become rich or famous or youll show those friends you arent a loser.even if you somehow accomplish your art, you will be competing with better artists, and tv, and the internet, and video games, etcYou have to want to do this because it fucking hurts you on the inside not to get it out of you
What's the literary equivalent?
>>25252542yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeahhhhhh yeahhhhhhhh
>>25250616Thank God I don't know who this nigger and the two AIDS goblins are
>>25252654Lucky you, it’s just some shitty “noise” group liked by sǒy drinking redditors.
>>25252654Unfortunately they made some of the best music of the 2010s. This is now reddit and cringe to say, so people like to pretend they were never fans, never enjoyed them, blah blah blah when in reality they first got big on 4chan
>>25250616A Scanner Darkly, maybe?
show me what you read/expected/got
>>25249237That's why I included it, it takes place within the first 10 pages too. I wanted to keep mine as simple as possible, because I find the messy ones like pic related distasteful.
>>25251268Nabokov opens the section on Fathers and Sons saying it is possibly the greatest novel of the 19th century. Personally, it is my favorite novel. It is the first and definitive response to nihilism and even more relevant today than when it was written.
>>25251358Thank you for posting it though. I've wanted to make this edit for years since finishing the book but couldn't find.
Post and discussion about any type of history book.>The Norman Conquest: The Battle of Hastings and the Fall of Anglo-Saxon England by Marc Morris>The book begins with the Saxon kings, specifically Edward the Confessor, and shows how England was in constant conflict as the English fell prey to both Vikings and Normans. In the north, King Harold destroys his Viking namesake at the battle of Stamford Bridge but immediately has to hurry south to confront William of Normandy at Hastings. His defeat, and the destruction of the Anglo-Saxon warrior caste, leads inexorably to William's forceful occupation of an unwilling country. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40229197-the-norman-conquesthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest
>>25252330Whatever you create is ultimately up to you. My focus would be on proving the link generation by generation from yourself to Henry IV. I’d include as much biographical detail and source references as necessary to do that with specific info on the key people in chain. It also depends also on how much detail your grandfather went into.If it’s any inspiration, my own work is meant to be comprehensive and to include every ancestor I have in my tree plus relevant biographical details. One volume is solely for gateway ancestors and their lines, a lot of historical figures. I usually include a paragraph or two summarizing the lives of really important people and then a sentence or two for obscure people without much info. I put more effort into more recent people that aren’t well known.
>>25252651>My focus would be on proving the link generation by generation from yourself to Henry IV. I’d include as much biographical detail and source references as necessary to do that with specific info on the key people in chain. It also depends also on how much detail your grandfather went into.I think I'd probably try and trace/prove (or disprove, it that ends up being the case) that lineage with about the same detail my grandfather did, which was a short biography (a few paragraphs to a few pages) on each person, usually somewhat humorous with additional notes about interesting things and details he'd discovered that didn't fit well into a narrative of their life, like oddities of puritan naming conventions and whatnot. He's a rather discursive writer, but I enjoy that and would try and maintain it.I'm also thinking of doing some interviews with my mother's side before it's too late, since they're european dirt farmers who have no written records of much of anything. I'd like to get as much of that down while I can.>If it’s any inspiration, my own work is meant to be comprehensive and to include every ancestor I have in my tree plus relevant biographical details.How are you defining your tree? The amount of ancestors in a tree increases exponentially each generation you go back. Or is this a project where there isn't a specific endgoal other than just filling out what you can no matter how dense it gets? I can see how that could be fun.
>>25251789Lol, I made this at my attempt to make something but realized it was shit lmao. Because I was very into WWI at the time, I decided to make a new one focused on it right after gathering recs from /his/ and askhistorians on reddit. I'm this anon btw >>25239350
>>25251789I would highly suggest reading Restall's books as I mention in >>25237421 over Conquistador by Levy. Like almost all books on the Spanish conquest it a fair bit wrong about Mesoamerican societies and the Cortes expedition>>25252291Never heard of him, my interest in history is really specific to Mesoamerica.
>>25251515so far I'm noticing that there's a lot of Freemason Lodges in the first chapter or so coming together to mourn Abraham Lincoln's death. There's also a sort of "ideal" American being forged out of his assassination, which is a man of humble Midwest origins working his way to the top. the prose is alright for a standard bearer Oxford history but I have to read more.
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>>25252572you trailed off at the end there, but the thing someone does doesn’t have to be good for their being good at it to be impressive. athletes in those lame american sports still show impressive movement and vision (and sportsmanship). someone being very good at their amazon warehouse job is impressive. mastery changes the nature of things. it moves into intuition and that sort of game.
>>25252587Don't care. Had sex.
>>25252607are u high man
>>25252611where did i lose you, that first sentence? just sound it out.
This dude at my university told me to kiss my ass goodbye, but that's literally impossible to do.
Seasons, Holidays, Time, and Change Edition FAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old thread: >>25130237
This is part world building, part linguistics question.There's Mystics (Magicians, Alchemists, mediums etc) and Rationalists (scientists in the IRL sense).Science is the umbrella term for both albeit not commonly used as it's considered too diffuse.Does that make sense internally and in terms of linguistics?Science just means Knowing Thing™ after all.
>>25226175I once wrote that while I was an anarchist just to challenge myself. I don't think I could do it today without it coming across as preachy.Conversely I'm presently writing a painfully sappy ancom Solarfunk story despite my actual beliefs being more on the unbearably edgy side.>Our society is rotting apart because everyone wants to be the dashing rebel, but nobody wants to help keep the lights and water on.That's a consequence of over specialization. You can get the same result by writing hardhat sci-fi. There's a 1:1 overlap between how many layers of abstraction away from ensuring societal survival and notions of heroic hard of gold Rebellion a demographic is.
What's the optimal strategy for an empire that has to appease their rival in one front (to balance a smaller rival), while realizing they will inevitable have to fight it in the other front?
>>25251527Whatever Iran is doing IRL
>>25251527It depends on a lot of factors. Like, does the one rival gain its power through trade or conquest, or a mix, etc.?
The Brothers Karamazov has a very progressive take on Orthodox Christianity and kinda shits on the old school "BEGOME ORDODOX" tradition in the Zosima - Ferapont duality.Kinda interesting, so that the stupid critique of Dosto being this reactionary figure goes out of that window.
chat imagine Grushenka nude, candlelight illumination
Why do retards use novels to shaper their worldview? they are literal strawmen situations that the author made up and made evolve according to his own ideas.
>>25251378TBK shills a very vanilla wholesome message.
>>25251378Only women, or women minded individuals.
>>25251380TBK does not shill vanilla wholesomeness, in fact it critiques human attempts to be truly good.
Why did Nietzsche hated so much Euripides? He claimed that Euripides along Socrates had introduced rationality in his pieces but there is nothing barely rational in a fucking deus ex machine (Medea), so where the fuck did he take it?
>>25252267A FUCKING divine chariot saved her from her inevitable destiny and you are telling me it is any rational?
>>25252258Because Nietzsche was fucking emotional. There’s no further analysis needed.
>>25252258He didn't actually read Euripides or Plato so who cares
>>25252258Nietzsche hated every other philosopher except Schopenhauer, and he thought even he was half a fag.
>>25252258Euripides was the leftist of his day basically. Racism and husbands are bad (Medea), war and genocide are bad (Women of Troy), our elite families and institutions are all corrupt and worth being destroyed (Bacchus), war as pure evil created by fate to harm humanity (Helen). It’s really no wonder at all that Nietzsche would hate someone who attacks all of Greece’s deities and social institutions and calls them corrupt as contrasted with men like Sophocles or Aeschylus who depict the gods as cruel yet well intentioned in their cruelty. Oedipus is still the father essentially of Athens who allows it to be blessed in Colonus. He may suffer though it is an epic and dramatic suffering not a suffering brought about through the vulgarity of the corrupt power he wields.
E-Reader thread? Does anyone like/use them?I’m looking to get my first one, and the general recommendation seems to be the Kindle Paperwhite.How easy is it to hack? Is it even worth hacking? I generally don’t mind paying for books if they’re formatted correctly (I’ve found some pirated copies over the years that have had horrific formatting, almost to the point of looking like some schizo’s journal).
I bought a Supernote Manta and use it a lot. Really fucking expensive though, so you better like to write.
>>25251819Nothing broken about it, it's beautiful.
I use a kindle paperwhite 10th gen with koreader
>>25251403Newer Amazon kindle software versions don't have jailbreaks out, so you can't hack it yet.Software/UI for different ereaders don't matter because you should immediately install koreader on whatever you get. I wouldn't get a more obscure brand just because it'll have less community support for koreader. I went with kobo because it's pretty popular and doesn't require jailbreaking or anything like that. It's more expensive though.
>>25251403I have the Kindle PW7 but i barely read on it. The material is nice. But do not get any Kindle..you will hate it. They force Ads on the device and recently removed the basic option that would show your current books cover img on your screen,instead they force random ads.My solution was this:Factory reset the device (you can't downgrade the version though which is required to hack)Filled the device with files until 10mb space left (to stop it from auto updating)Now turn on wifi and login your device ( to get rid off the annoying pop up message every sec)Once you've logged in and got rid off the pop up message, you can now remove the space holder files and go airplane mode forever.
