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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Recommended Literature
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Are you incapable of making decisions without the guidance of anonymous internet strangers? Open this thread for some recommendations.

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Don Quijote Edition

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consider THIS
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This is counter-culture from the underground
Eternal revolution, this is our sound
KMFDM, better than the best
Megalomaniacal and harder than the rest
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being here just makes a nigga wish he wasnt here
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>>25412283
Goddamn. And here I was thinking I lived at the bottom, in Guro but reasonable jail. That's hilariously quaint.

>>25412301
I will. Thank you.
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>>25412301
is kitty stoned?

Why was he so obsessed with prostitutes?
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>>25411461
he was pretty obsessed with whores IRL
>LOOOORD FORGIVE ME FOR I'M PLOWING A HARLOT AGAIN, IT WILL FEEL GOOD TO REPENT AFTER I'M DONE, BUT FROWN UPON ME AS I FORNICATE MY LOOOORD, GAZE JUDGMENTALLY UPON THE BLACK EYE I GAVE THIS UNFORTUNATE GIRL, THIS WHORE YOU PLACED UPON MY PATH SO I COULD FAIL YOU AGAIN, LOOOORD, CAUSE I'M A SINNER, A DIRTY KINKY SINNER PLEASE FORGIVE ME *PLAP PLAP PLAP*
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>>25410719
That passage is actually a forgery inserted (probably by a hooker) into the Gospel of John. The oldest manuscripts don't contain it.
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>>25410595
Because a prostitute is someone who loves you no matter who you are or what you look like
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I'll probably die a virgin since I don't have the know how to avoid getting arrested for solicitation.
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>>25412315
Go to Nevada. There are like 14 legal brothels across the state.

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I am 26 and will go to college this fall for business administration. Should I go to the freshmen orientation week even at my age?
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>>25412070
why do you glorify casual sex with sluts like it's some kind of a must have life experience without which you'll die alone?
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>>25412187
They were dating handsome and successful older guys.
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>>25411478
literally just talk to them like a normal person and pull out your credit card
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>>25412242
?
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>>25412252
It doesn’t even have to be casual sex. It’s also opportunities for women real relationships. However most men will and probably should try every part of the spectrum and see what brings them joy and also what gives them experiences they learn and grow from. I don’t regret the years I spent in shallow relationships with good and significant people who changed me, nor the serious relationships with good and significant people. In a real way I don’t even regret the dumb choices that led me to associate or stay with the shit people because those formed me too, and helped me figure out which people are good and worth associating with.

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PKD recs? Reading Ubik right now and loving it, also enjoyed Time Out of Joint in the past.
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>>25407907
VALIS is my favourite, but Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is a must-read. I also recommend the entire VALIS trilogy as well as A Scanner Darkly. I’m reading Zap Gun at the moment. It’s not a must-read but interesting to see how much he laboured over a novel he hated. Also check out Man In the High Castle if you’re interested in the I-Ching.
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>>25408315
This. Second Variety is wonderful and a precursor to DADoES?
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Short story collections are worth reading.

It doesn't get better than Scanner Darkly, VALIS, and Androids.
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>>25411965
But he wasn't out of time, it was literally just the "it was all a dream"-ending. Am I misremembering?
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>PKD wrote a billion books
>normalfags only ever reference about the same 3
Posers!

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>What is /phil/ Philosophy General?
A general for readers, students, and armchair thinkers interested in philosophy, whether it be Western, Eastern, analytic, continental, ancient, contemporary. We discuss primary texts, secondary literature, online lectures, podcasts.

>Why read philosophy?
Politics, science, psychology, etc. all began with or were inspired by someone who thought philosophically. Basically, if you are interested in just about anything, philosophy will help you better understand that subject. Because it is at the foundation of every conceptual institution made or discovered by humans, it is in the underbelly of human experience, and so it is worth taking seriously.

>Why study philosophy formally?
Surprisingly versatile and undervalued. Phil majors consistently score among the highest on the LSAT, GRE, and GMAT. Strong pipeline into law, policy, ethics consulting, AI alignment, and academia.

The server: https://discord.gg/EMq43xYNxq

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The difference between transcendental idealists and dogmatists can be reduced to the fact that the latter do not allow or understand the logic of thetic judgments. Nothing absolutely is in dogmatic systems, rather everything is connected to everything else, even God, “the One”, etc. A genuine absolute is necessarily outside the system and unintelligible as such - like Plato’s sun that can’t be looked at. But this means it is, not a static proposition, but a task.
>A thetic judgement is one that posits something as not equal to anything else nor posited in opposition to anything else, but is simply posited as equal to itself. Such a judgment cannot presuppose any ground of connection nor distinction; instead, the third term in question, which is logically required, would be the task of finding a ground. The original and supreme judgment of this type is “I am”. All judgments contained in this absolute positing are thetic, such as “man is free”. [There is no ground of connection or distinction for this judgment because freedom does not exist]. Yet in accordance with the logical form of the judgment, the two terms are supposed to be united. They cannot be united in any concept but only in the Idea of an I whose consciousness is deteemined by nothing outside itself but instead determines everything by itself. But such an Idea is unthinkable inasmuch as it harbors a contradiction. Nevertheless, it is our supreme practical goal. A human being should infinitely approach unattainable freedom.
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>>25412216
Go back to /pol/ you fucking retard.
>these impoverished people from a backwards part of the world with a backwards religion are just heckin’ genetically inferior. It’s natural!
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>>25412228 (continuing)
The connection to Aristotle should be obvious to anyone who’s read him (not to the tradcath zoomers, who can’t actually read). Aristotle’s theology denies that God is a hypostasized universal (i.e. a concept), makes the knowing of God noetic (non-propositional), and has the whole universe strive toward God as an unattainable goal. (Needless to say elements of this are in Plato as well, but Plato wants to hypostasize the mere concept of Good/the One to justify a static and ultimately fascist system). But Aristotle embraces a physical theology in which God’s activity in the cosmos is mediated by circular motion. Kant and Fichte ditch this untenable naturalism and leave time as a straight line (which is also in Aristotle alongside the circular motion). Hegel tries to claim the mantle of Aristotle by emphasizing the intellectual character of his God but this obviously misses the point. Kant and Fichte are the true heirs of Aristotle both in this way and in many others. But if you’re a retard who thinks Aristotle was a realist and that we need to cling to Aquinas you’ll never understand any of this.
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Verbal Diarrhea: the thread.
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>>25412316
any attempt at philosophical discourse will rapidly get filled with pseudointellectuals driven by ego and arrogance to prove how "smart" they are by using as many words as possible to communicate incredibly simple concepts

also a lot of people think "philosophy" means "whatever mental gymnastics I must perform in order to look like I know what I'm talking about"

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Male MC Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

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>>25412271
If I want porn then I'll just watch porn
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>>25412304
If I'm going to be churning out slop on a regular basis I want to at least write about something I'd be attracted to, goddammit.
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>>25412304
>watching porn
But porn tends to have shit/no plots. At least watch hentai. Or better yet, read hentai.
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>>25412330
>porn
>hentai
potato potato
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>>25412230
If I could trade you to satan for bakkerfag to haunt this thread somehow, I would.

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/feb/24/america-says-goodbye-paperback

>For generations of readers, the gateway to literature was not a hushed library or a polished hardback but a wire spinner rack in a supermarket, pharmacy or railway station. There, amid chewing gum and cigarettes, sat the mass-market paperback: squat, roughly 4in by 7in and cheap enough to be bought on a whim.

>But the era of the “pocket book” is drawing to a close. ReaderLink, the biggest book distributor in the US, announced recently that it would stop distributing mass-market paperbacks. The decision follows years of plummeting sales, from 131m units in 2004 to 21m in 2024, and marks the end of a format that once democratised reading for the working class.

I'm sad to see MMPBs go. I much prefer their portable size, cheap price, and how they don't make me afraid to beat them up and crack their spines. The alternative option for cheap, portable reading seems to be in e-readers nowadays, but I prefer physical copies of books. Atleast for now we have MMPBs filling the shelves of secondhand bookshops, but eventually they'll start disappearing as they fall apart and become unusable due to ordinary decomposition.

What does /lit/ think of MMPBs going away? I'm sure there are a few anons who, like me, grew up reading these things as a kid.
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I sell used books and people will pay a premium for literally any random mass market paperback if it’s visibly old and you wrap it in plastic. You would think there’s still money to be made there for publishers
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>>25412189
Working class people- and most people- don't buy books. It's an increasingly specialty hobby with less casual users which is why publishers are confident those who do read will shell out at higher prices.
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>>25412147
I'd say ebooks have taken their niche, but even ebooks cost more than $10USD on average. At least for new/tradpub titles you'd see in the bookstore anyway.
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>>25412288
I don't like to buy ebooks that are more than $5, the cost to produce a book is about $5, the extra $5-$10 for the physical copy is fair enough they've got to cover production and distribution, but charging a physical price for a file I baulk at; the profit margin and royalties to the author are about the same for a $5 ebook as they are for a $10 book, it only goes up slightly for them at $15.
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>>25412344
>buy
>ebooks
what

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I think his books are swell.
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I like him but he's godawful at writing black characters
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M-O-O-N that spells King.
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>>25411934
>minus the mental instability
You lack critical information.
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The only story he has ever wrote that I liked was The Jaunt.
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I think if he’d had any ability to throttle his output and refine his ideas, he would have been more of an intellectual heavyweight. As it is, he cranked out a lot of entertaining books. The book Misery gets some hate, but I think it’s the ultimate ship in a bottle book. Writing an entire narrative confining the character to a single room by himself for huge stretches of the book and turning it into an entertaining thriller is a monumental achievement in my eyes.

And for whatever reason, I really enjoy Dolores Claiborne. Fantastically written and excellent usage of an unreliable narrator weaving a fiction in front of everybody.

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What's the national epic of America?
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>>25412326
Moby-Dick
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probably some really memable super bowl commercial, with a catchy jingle
>mobly cock
no diabetes danny even knows what that is

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"Lobster Tale" edition

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>>25412186
Taper off slowly, they can fuck you up if you just stop.
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Depression is a symptom of deeper structural problems with your life
Fix those and everything else follows
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>>25412303
Except when it isn't.
Only a idiot would make such a blanket declaration.
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>>25412313
>omg I'm sad in my brain
Isn't real depression. You are a foid if you think so.
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>>25412303
That's called being unhappy not depression.

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We're having a lit meetup in New York on Saturday.

Sick of shallow book talk and blank looks when you bring up serious literature or philosophy? If you’re in or near New York City, come to the NYC /lit/ meetup on Saturday, July 18th. We’re here for raw, unfiltered discussion. Meet in person and say what you mean.

If you're interested email nyclitmeetup45@gmail and I'll give you the place and time.
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>>25411100
>Assorted mutts, a jew and a single huwite man.
Yeah that tracks.
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>>25411580
>Boston manages to have this many white people and even the token minority trifecta of a black, asian and woman(man).
Well done lads.
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It's only vanity publishing if you pay for it. Consumptive Cur is self-published.
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>>25412239
Anon I have very bad news for you

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How do I read it without falling asleep every chapter?
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>>25412014
>As it goes on it does get more engaging and harder to put down
Well okay, I guess I'll keep going. I'm at the chapter where Ishmael is attending Church service on Sunday, about Chapter 9.
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>>25411336
stop reading so fast. read aloud, it will force you to slow down.
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>>25411336
Just read a chapter every night in bed. Then going to sleep after it will be fine.
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>>25411336
You have to drink water, a bottle or two of water
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>>25411339
FPBP, Moby-Dick isn’t a particularly challenging read so it won’t take you too long to get to this point as well
>>25411521
Good whale name tbqdesuwy

Redpill me on miyamoto musashi

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Anyone here given it a read? It's like ready player one if it were good and had actual consequences.
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>>25411936
It's fun enough slop that is bursting at the seams with millennial "um, that just happened...." and "Hey's right behind me, isn't he?" humor. Worth a read/listen if you're looking for a palette cleanser, but overall trash. It's a testament to normies attention span that shit has 8 books
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>>25412195
Neither are half the topics on this board.
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>>25411936
This is some really great literature
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>>25412195
That's rather snobbish of you
>>25412246
>It's a testament to normies attention span that shit has 8 books
I don't think that makes the point you think it does
>>25412290
Thank you. I don't come to this board often but I see multiple philosophy threads that don't reference shit.
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>>25412246
>overall trash
Care to elaborate on why? Have you actually read them? Cause it sounds like you're just parroting good reads reviews.


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