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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
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Recommended Literature

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Anyone else scared of the internet? I'm writing a novel about three /lit/ trannies and a beautiful (but /r9k/) lad who meet on the internet and then shoot up non-white people in a mall. With the explosion of modern liberal identity ideology and the related rise of the alt-right and the tension between the internet as an echo chamber and the internet as an agora, people seem more divided into particular ideological groups than ever before at such a scale. We've experienced a period of quiet for somewhere between 40 and 70 years but I think the next time the West experiences a moderate economic or environmental shock, shit will really hit the fan. I'm thinking about civil war in America and radical movements in Europe. Our current stability is taken for granted and society will collapse on its own.

I think entering the digital age - something that's been intimated for a long time but is now fully underway, with entire generations of adults having grown up "on the internet" - is going to have massive ramifications that we are not seeing, or refusing to understand.

Anyone else a collapse fetishist here? Anyone else writing about it?
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What are you guys talking about
When shit hits the fan, the centrist arm holding up the far left will turn right, and the left will be exposed as the powerless pussies they are
Dablinci, Portret umetnika u mladosti, Uliks i Fineganovo bdenje
O joj :(
Joyce, cunts and high schoolers, what we are reading.

"She smelled of rose fumes from a factory of female lingerie. I closed my eyes and embraced with my heart, my senses now beating the drum of present exhilaration. My left eye caught her shoes, her leggings, her grey shirt hanging from the back, the scars of puberty, back achene, black hair parted and braided into two roped locks for harnessing the so desired fuckathon in rose gardens taking place on some abstract mattress in some local place in some distant time. She was doing history homework, that much I guessed, the portrait of Thomas Paine, Mr LibertyorDeath, oh how I would give you anything for that moment of blissful pain, my sweet young steed. Fear immobilized my body. If she were some dude who seemed friendly I certainty would have no trouble sparking a conversation, "History homework?"- or just a plain old "Whats up". I busied myself with my own work, glossing of over the type script of websites dedicated to- oh who am i kidding!- I'm not doing nothing but thinking about you my darling. She highlights some sentences on her pamphlet, highlighting my gaze- I quickly look away. She stayed because I made her feel gay. Talk to me she says. No I say. She soon leaves, her short time here next to me, and the manner in which she reluctantly gave up what she was doing was a sigh from her lovely lips in my minds eye, she sauntered away, saying with grace "if you wont, I have no other business being here young sir." Oh! how beastial carnality makes puritans of us all. In this way I know I was being honest. My lady, please take your leave for I am an animal and all I want is to purge your loins.
Well that was awful.
"rose fumes from a factory of female lingerie"
The fuck? Roses don't have "fumes," and clothing factories don't smell like roses.
Free write based on the pic pretty good. As fiction oof

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Who is a well-known author that has worse prose than JK Rowling?
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Is there a shittier rhyme scheme than iambic pentameter?
>iambic pentameter
>rhyme scheme
Hi Stephen. Keep trying, you'll get it right eventually.
because /lit/ LOVES to shit on the popular stuff. Like potter is worse than twilight and 50 shades combined when in reality it's an OK series with a few flaws that just happens to be super popular because it touches on a lot of points that people can relate too.

Same with GRR, Before the fucking TV show started gaining attention (and doing god knows what with the material) he was BELOVED. Used to be in ALL of the /lit/recommendations images. But now that everyone and their mother loves it and fucking jokes about the series get makes on late night talk shows, a bunch of people like to dogpile on it. (usually with an excerpt from Daenerys diarrhoea)

tl;dr OP wants a "gimme a reason to shit on something popular so I can look smart to my friends" thread
You- oh wait, nobody know YOu! jhaha
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>Stephen King is pretty bad

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Any literature that explores an ancient, isolated, hopeless prison? Surely something inspired pic related. Something that isn't tripe.

inb4 the Count of Monte Cristo. Book is super duper good, but there isn't *that* much about the Chateau D'if.
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Borges The Immortal
Nabakov's Invitation to a Beheading?
Not ancient (well, maybe to you) but Papillon by Henri Charrière is solid.
Not exactly a prison but The Tartar Steppe by Dino Buzzati has a very similar feel. I really 100% recommend this book, it's a favourite of mine.
this one man

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What's the name of a poem with six line stanzas and each line ends in one of six words and the last word of the last line of a stanza is the last word of the first line of the next stanza
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W. H. Auden, “Paysage Moralisé”
Hearing of harvests rotting in the valleys,
Seeing at end of street the barren mountains,
Round corners coming suddenly on water,
Knowing them shipwrecked who were launched for islands,
We honour founders of these starving cities
Whose honour is the image of our sorrow,

Which cannot see its likeness in their sorrow
That brought them desperate to the brink of valleys;
Dreaming of evening walks through learned cities
They reined their violent horses on the mountains,

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I saw my soul at rest upon a day
As a bird sleeping in the nest of night,
Among soft leaves that give the starlight way
To touch its wings but not its eyes with light;
So that it knew as one in visions may,
And knew not as men waking, of delight.

This was the measure of my soul's delight;
It had no power of joy to fly by day,
Nor part in the large lordship of the light;
But in a secret moon-beholden way
Had all its will of dreams and pleasant night,
And all the love and life that sleepers may.

But such life's triumph as men waking may

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Ye wastful Woods bear witness of my Woe,
Wherein my Plaints did oftentimes resound;
Ye careless Birds are privy to my Cryes,
Which in your Songs were wont to make a part:
Thou pleasant Spring hast lull'd me oft asleep,
Whose streams my trickling rears did oft augment.

Resort of People doth my Grief augment,
The walled Towns do work my greater Woe:
The Forest wide is fitter to resound
The hollow Eccho of my careful Cryes;
I hate the House, since thence my Love did part,
Whose wailful Want debars mine Eyes of sleep.

Let Streams of Tears supply the place of Sleep:

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Sestinas are dumb
You're dumb

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Haven't been in here in a while and there seems to be no active thread for our beloved language, so let's go.


Anyone knows if there's a good translation for the Bible in Spanish?
The Italians have all the Latin versions, the English have the King James, and the Germans the Luther. What do we have?
I've sampled a couple and decided to go for the Reina Valera, but it feels so torpid and lackluster when compared to the aforementioned... there's no poetry, no musicality to it.
So other recommendations will be appreciated.

>inb4 learn Hebrew/Ancient Greek
It's far behind on my priority list, I plan to tackle them in about fifteen or twenty years .


Also wanted to mention I finally picked up some ebooks I downloaded from Abelardo Castillo, after that anon who kept pestering everywhere with the author some months ago.

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Yes, it does. Might go unnoticed in a context where it's read only passingly, but as it stands right now... yeah, it sound clichéd.
I suspected it.
How about changing the words but leaving the simile? Like "el pueblo de Madrid vertía en su boca, con la misma avidez con que había aguardado noticias de una victoria, chorros de vino desde botas y porrones".
I may be overthinking this shit and probably should ditch it tho.

I would say something like

El pueblo de Madrid apagaba su sed de victoria con porrones de vino que pasaban/iban y venían de mano en mano.
Theres a new bolaño book coming out
That one sounds clumsy. The rhythm is completely broken, there's no regard for the flow of the line. Read it out loud and tell me you don't feel like you're driving down a cobblestone road; at least the first one felt natural.
The part that's making it cheesy is the
>sediento de victoria
it sounds too cinematic in a bad way, like your stereotypical presidental speech in hollywood movies.

Give us the context already so we can help you better.

This sounds like they were compensating a failure, drowing their sorrows in wine, rather than celebrating a victory.
It's not better than the first one either to me.

Do any of you really get the feels when you read picture books?

This one did it for me and Im kind of looking for more
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sorry i'm not a big manly man like yourself reading bokos made specially for toddlers lmao
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That one really is more on the emotional manipulation end of things. Pic related is infinitely more /lit/
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Sad and unintentionally funny by the author of Goodnight Moon.
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Most recent Caldecott is good too.
The fuck he does. He ignores her until she calls to say she's dying, visits her in the hospital and finishes the song together, she dies, then he sings the song to his fucking baby. It sucks.

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Why is John Green such an annoying faggot?
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Thank you for your time mr. green
Wow you're so clever and original I wish I could be more like you
I couldn't agree more.
>not wanting to stimulate the market and create jobs by buying a yacht
retards like him are the reason the economy is failing
Money is supposed to be spent
Fuck you man; that's the best post in this thread

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so we find out it wasn't actually teenagers who broke into basts workshop, but Stella's husband. the cop tells bast it was teenagers because "who else would shit in your piano". so Stella's husband shit in his piano?
please for God sakes this is really important
yes, to make it seem like hooligans and homeless had run rampant to make it seem as though any thing missing would have been stolen by the vagrants masking their pursuit for the papers.

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That was definitely a book about wanting to be a woman, right? Like, the cover has someone turned around in women's clothes, and yet the family ( wife, husband, sister ) are all already there. And there's also a mysterious baby that isn't in the book. And it just felt incesty, and ended with the fact that his sister was now a good looking woman. Thoughts?
If you want it to be
yes actually it was about her transformation for a caring sad girl to an uncaring woman

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How long does it generally take you guys to write a short story? i finished a draft of one yesterday and it took me eight days to complete 7,200 words. i'm going to try whittling it down to 5,000 or maybe less tonight. Just interested in how long it takes you guys to write short stories since I haven't written one in years. Any replies welcome.
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I write pretty slowly, so I'd say about two weeks for the first draft of a 10 000 word story. I have to change a lot of shit every time too.
I love reading and my writing is pretty ok, but the act of writing is really hard for me. Any tips for making it less of a pain and more enjoyable?
my novel's a crime romp in the vein of Elmore Leonard only slightly more absurd. shopping it around as we speak. i've received positive feedback but no publisher yet. i'm currently about 2/3 of the way through novel #2 and figure i'd write a few short stories before continuing with the final third.
10,000 words in 14 days isn't that slow, mate. i'd say 500-2,000 words a day is the norm unless you're a professional or prolific. i'd say continue doing what you're doing, as it only gets easier with practice and experience. maybe switch up when you write or other habits that effect your writing. it really does get easier the more you do it, though.
Sounds cool man, and good luck with getting it published. Post here when you do; I'd like to check it out.
Took me around 2 months to write the last one which came out at around 8,700 words. Maybe a month and a half for the one before that (although It felt like that story had a lot more juice behind it, or at least that's how it felt to me, and has recently been published in a well-respected fiction magazine).

That said, this past summer has been horribly unproductive for me. I have managed to shit out 3/4ths of a weirdass pagan-Christian experimental piece that I am pretty sure will end up being unpublishable and the first chapter of a novel that I am already having doubts about. So yeah.

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What does Emerson mean when he says that "Nature never wears a mean appearance."?
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You didn't answer OP's question.
I take it to mean that you can't blame your circumstances, or nature, for being "mean", you have to suffer through those circumstances and rely on yourself, instead of blaming others.

He would have hated BLM
It pretty much does. For Emerson, nature just meant a pretty, quiet space apart from society where an individual could reflect. An eternal law and landscape which he self-absorbedly saw to reflect the poet's mind yet claimed to embody all minds. This completely ignores the "social" world of nature outside himself where the real horrible shit occurs -- nature as Darwinian "red in tooth and claw". This is also why he advocated a bullshit notion of private freedom dislocated from his era's growing economic inequality, industrial consolidation, and wage-slavery.
so he wasn't a SJW

I like him
He can appeal to everybody from hippies, to wage-slave goyim, to corporate bosses. So long as you aren't interested in the bare reality underneath your idealizations.

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I used to dislike Ayn Rand -- until I realised that the only people that hated her worshiped Marx instead
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>I used to dislike Ayn Rand -- until I realised that the only people that hated her worshiped Marx instead

Where and how did you get a copy of my dissertation's title. I am warning you, if you post this around there will be consequences. People have gotten expelled for less.
>Basing your opinion on other people's opinion

I dislike both. What now?
I worship Marx, it's not so bad
Rand is too edgy for me, Adam smith is where I draw the line.

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Tell me about the best or worst teacher you have ever had /lit/
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is this a poem or what. if it is its not very good
is the fact that these posts have the exact same format a coincidence
>going to college
>having a future
sorry no thanks, im living the literaty lifestyle :^)
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