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What are the best murder mysteries not written by Agatha Christie?
>>25468286Well Christie's shit, so.
>>25468286Simenon > Chandler > Chesterton > Malet > Boileau-Narcejac > Hammett > ChristieI don't make the rules.
>>25468286A Study in Scarlet, The Sign of the Four, The Big Sleep>>25468607Bumping this post>>25468622Christie isn't as bad as this board makes her out to be. And Then There Were None was an enjoyable read in my opinion.>>25468745I have some Simenon but I haven't read them yet, I need to
Does this board just hate everyone popular? Agatha Christie, Sanderson, grrm, stephen king, jk rowlinh, dan brown.
>>25470071"Uh...you just hate it because it's le POPULAR!" is something only slopeaters say to justify eating slopThere are plenty of authors that are popular and also beloved by /lit/ and you know it.
farmer's market editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>25447261
>>25470020Wouldn't you like to be a dreamer too?
>>25469835>Got any recommendations that are as good as the first 3 books?NTA but First Law, nobody will disagree lots of old ASOIAF fans read it during the waits for Dance of Dragons and Winds
>>25469835The first tower lord book wasn't bad it's a little simple. The lies of locke lamora too.
>>25469835To build on others' replies, Crown of Stars is really the closest I've read to the political and character complexity of ASOIAF. The only problem is that the series is bloated and weaker for it towards the end.
I want Dany to win purely so that Strong Belwas can be Lord Commander of her Queens Guard after Selmy dies and for him to start a huge scandal after he takes a fat ugly shit after killing a noble in a duel.
"Ted's writing lesson" editionPrevious: >>25462680/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Expect critique, not praise.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25470157Some parts it isn't clear which "he" is being referred to, the beast man or Nath.Otherwise it's ok.
>>25469282Like Hemmingyway said: Write high, edit on the comedown
>>25469373>you'll think everything you write is deeply profound. You'll feel differently once you sober up
>>25470229Actually laughed out loud.
>>25470228>holy shit WTF did I fucking write this is complete and utter dreck *eats a shotgun*
Y'know the type>studied something like CS>obsessed with movies but only watches maybe 4 a month; has a letterboxd>addicted to her phone>on some SSRI for "anxiety" that kills her libido>virgin or maybe 1 or 2 ex-boyfriends max>autistic but not in any good way>adhd just when talking to you; can never finish a longer thought or example>emotionally unavailable 99% of the time>likes art but can't articulate her feelings/thoughts at all>zero hobbies worth mentioning>just a slight political leaning>conventionally prettyand last but definitely not least>hasn't finished a book since first year CollegeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25469748this (CLAP) so (CLAP) much (CLAP CLAP) this (PLAP)
>>25469713song seems thread appropriate kek
>>25469353No he doesn't. Have you read him?
>>25469292She has a vagina which means she inherently is more valuable than you will ever be.
>>25469292>>emotionally unavailable 99% of the timethis isn't a thing. i wish it was, but it isn't.
Wraith editionPrevious >>25467055
>>25470215What were you being given in return?
35 years old and I look pretty damn cute and good actually
>>25470217Attention. You want to know what’s crazy is there was legitimately a time in my life where people were actually more like characters in a movie to me than real people, that’s psychosis and derealization, which is why I referred to this person by their role instead of treating them like an actual person. Yet somehow they still found a way to give me attention. Being persistent truly does get you somewhere regardless of how fucked up you are, but it just goes to show my rizz level.
>>25470005Stop pretending to be me.
>>25470103>posts unreadable garbagethanks for proving my point
Sand Doom edition>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recommendations):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Banned Authors:Joe AbercrombieA.A. AttanasioR. Scott BakkerC.J. CherryhGlen CookSteven EriksonR.A. LaffertyMark LawrenceGeorge R.R. MartinComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
is lyonnaise actaully good?its been shilled a lot to me and people always list it at the top of the pat vance list...i liked/was hooked on planet of adventure right away though, and so far this seems very boring and unimaginative in comparison.im not reading generesloppa for the b movie poetry.
Pagebitch sure has been quiet since those vocaroo shots were fired.
>>25470136Banned author.
>>25470236No such thing.
>>25470233If you have not already read Dunsany, The Worm Ororborous, and Voyage to Arcturus, then I see no reason to stoop to reading Lyonesse. It's solidly second-tier in the early-20th century pseudo-classics
How do you solve this and not live in a constant of FOMO anymore? I feel like Faust trying to absorb any and all possible knowledge in the hope that i'd get over my existential anxieties. It's not my fault if everything seems fascinating. This also applies to other ''media'', like Film.
You have a backlog problem?
>>25469549Get an honest estimate of how much you will read in a lifetime. 150 books a year is ambitious. Say a reading life from 20-80. That’s 9000 books. If you read 75 books a year you have 4500 in a life. If you read 30 books a year: 1800. With this in mind I find it easier to judge that TBR. You know it’s 50% crap at least. Not every book needs to aim for life changing, but if you’re honest with yourself you know how many of them so far were a waste of time. Give the TBR a rough sorting into must reads, fun reads and shit just on the list because of curiosity or someone else recommending it. Those won’t be 1/3d even categories. The must reads are probably “just” 500 out of the 3000. Tl;dr triage nigga.
>>25469733doesn't that sum up most people's attraction to the arts?
>>25469549>howdigital is the wayinternet searchingsaving pdf filesbrowing all the titles
Don't do backlogs. Just read whatever the fuck you want to read in the moment whenever something lands on your path.
Why do people get triggered by physical books?
>>25469947I look like this and say this. You guys really captured the smug well.
>>25469685Me with The Sailor Who Fell From Grace.>"Yeah, so, a bunch of pre-teen Japanese boys plot to kill this sailor dude one of the them idolised because he feels the sailor betrayed this romanticised version the boy set up in his head. Also, the boy liked to watch this sailor dude fuck his mom."
>>25469685I've never once been asked, asked or seen anyone ask a reading person what they're reading on the subwayI've thought of doing it when it's a cute girl but the bitch is reading that'd be rude
>>25469685Why would you respond if you don't want to, it's not their business
>>25469916>Turns out browns really hate your faggot shit, huh?Lmfao miggers are so cucked they can't even imagine exacting violence on their enemies, they need the heckin based redhat niggers to do it for them
What are the best novels that were eventually adapted into famous movies? I want to read them.
>>25469700literaaly the worst book i have ever read, and , except the name of the titular character, has nothing to do with the movie>gump and a chimp are in space>crash in papua new guinea >get captured by headhunters>chimp beats chief at chess>therefore tribe doesn't eat themsounds funny, but it's fucking awful
>>25470078How did Robert Zemeckis get an "aren't Boomers awesome" plotline out of a novel like that?
>>25467601The Exorcist
>>25467647I recently finished the book and watched the movie after. I felt the film did a good job of encapsulating the sense of a wasted past with the hopes of the future
The Death of Ivan Ilyich, adapted as Ikiru by KurosawaThe Trial, adapted by Welles, starring Anthony Perkins
>$50 Hume (maybe the highest IQ person on the list)>$25 Wittgenstein (autist extraordinaire)>$20 Nietzsche (best writer on the list; will bamboozle the debate viewers with his prose)>$5 Marx (most persuasive person on the list; has directly radicalized millions)
>>25468982Paid in hash and orange juice.
>>25469132Hume is the debater, Kant is the paralegal equivalent taking notes. Like a ghost speechwriter for a powerful president. Learn proper strats, scrub.
>>25469020Best answer in this thread
>>25468982give me schopenhauer and jung and a mcdonalds fillet o fish
I'll take Zapffe and a bottle of sleeping pills.I hope your debate is fun.
Do you journal?I keep hearing that a bunch of older famous writers journaled, but now the only people I hear doing it are chronic instagrammers.
>>25468668Yes, I keep a journal. It's a way of rescuing my life from obscurity.On my deathbed I will read through my old journals, and hopefully convince myself I've led a worthwhile life. It's looking good so far ...
>>25468668I wish I had a diary entry from 9/11. I was around for it, but I didn't write anything. It would have been fun to see my own commentary to it. I was online, so maybe I said something about it on a forum or something and it's still out there somewhere.
>>25468668Yes been journalling on and off since I was a teenager. Not huge amounts and not daily but it's a way to keep track of my internal thoughts and perspectives as they change or remain the same over time.I've recently created a digital system of journalling which I'm very happy with. A private imageboard running on a raspberry pi on my LAN. I have different threads for different topics relevant to my life.
>>25468668I used to. My diary was basically My Twisted World basically twelve years before Eliot published his. I'm a 44 year old man now.
>>25469170>rescuing my life from obscurity.Doesn't that require someone else to read it?
Just finished Moby Dick, my God the tangents this book goes on, it's insane.>Hello it's me, Ishmael, I want to write about how this crazy captain's maniacal hunt for a giant fuckass whale>It was really traumatic and at the end everyone fucking died and I am the lone survivor >Also let me spend some time debunking contemporary depiction of whales>Oh and you ought to know the size of a whale in details>Let's explore historical accounts about whales!>Top ten reasons why a whale is actually a fish and not a mammal (and that's a good thing)>Also saint George was probably a whaler and he slew a whale instead of a dragon, let's be honest here folks >Did you know that white things are cool? let me list a few cool white things, like the albatross!Anyway, What did (you) think of Moby dick? I liked it a lot when it was focused on the story.Do you guys have any other maritime book suggestion? Nothing Paul Conrad I already read a bunch of his stuff.It really is true that men yearns for the sea. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I always felt that Ahab's desire for revenge being over his missing leg was a bit lame. I wish Moby Dick had killed Ahab's son instead and that's why he wanted revenge.
>>25470092I think that's half the point, to me the white whale symbolizes those unreasonable grudges that don't let men sleep at night. There's also an element of escapism as Ahab at one point starts ranting about how miserable a life he had whaling for decades, so maybe he goes on the hunt because revenge is thing he has to look forward to in life.
I also recently finished it and I loved all of those tangents. On one hand the narrator is hunting for whales, and criticising his captains obsession with revenge, yet he has his own utterly autistic obsession bordering on romantic love for whales. I also thought his voice was very funny, sneering at scientists or artists who in his opinion dont fully understand the whale like he does. I also loved that chapter where he tells a story of another ship, but this time hes telling the story, as he told it to his friends while sitting in a bar in Argentina. So your no longer on the whales but sitting in some spic cafe, being interrupted by his friends lively intersections and disbelief. I thought was a really cool tool. Anyway, Cormac Mccarthy made me want to become.a good writer. Melville made me realise I could never be a good writer.
P.s - Maritime book recommendation
>Never before in the history of man has a race of people switched so rapidly from being much-pitied victims to barbarous murderers. Never before has a race of people generated so much sympathy around the world and then, in the space of a lifetime, succeeded in turning that sympathy into hatred and revulsion. It is as though a group of much-loved nuns in charge of an orphanage had suddenly turned around and started murdering all the children.This quote is from Dahl's review of the 1983 book God Cried, which is about the Israel-Lebanon war of 1982. You can read Dahl's full review here. It's absolutely worth your time.https://www.panarchy.org/palestine/dahl.html
>>25465213One thing I think you need to be aware of is that U.S. subsidies to Israel are going to end fairly soon and Israel is already making adjustments. The second thing is that the subsidy began as a result of the Israel-Egypt peace accord in the late 70s when the U.S. agreed to subsidize both Israel and Egypt. Before that Israel had been through several major wars with the Arabs (who were supplied by the Soviet Union and had Soviet pilots flying fighter jets in combat with Israeli fighter jets) while being significantly poorer than today. Also the Israelis are very well aware the Arabs want to get rid of them which is why they have a 600,000-strong military force (including reservists), 500 warplanes and around ~100 nuclear warheads (estimated but that's a secret), so it's not like they haven't thought about this already.So realistically what scenario is there that the Jews get driven out of there? I'm not even saying you have to like them. The more you meet, you might like them even less than you already do. But in the realm of objective reality what is supposed to happen.
>>25468554Rather> :)>jews >:(
>>25456212Aa awful as it was -- 600 Israeli civilians and 70,000+ Gazan civilians -- it does seem to have worked. The West is turning against Israel and nobody is going to sign the Abraham Accords
>>25468437Ilan Pappé
Look its not my fight but I have a really hard time believing there are any "natives" in trade nexus like Palestine.I think a lot of these fellas blowing themselves up are probably as Palestinian as the average guy in the the East Village is a "New Yorker".
Is there a market to digital pop up books?I had the idea of making one on raylib.What's /lit/ opinion?Do you see a market to revive magazines and pop up books inside a modern tool like godot or raylib?
>>25470052So a light novel/visual novel? I feel the whole point of a pop up book is the physical pop up, take that away and it’s an illustrated book
