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It was a fantastic tale. I wrote a huge post about it but it got deleted because "lol wrong captcha xD", so fuck all that shit.GRRM is a retard for thinking of this tale in such a realistic lens. "What was Aragorn's tax policy?" Is he an idiot? Does he not understand that this story was a fairy tale about war and the effects it has on the all enduring human spirit?I swear too many people took this work far too literally. Jesus Christ.
Tolkien himself was clearly an Elfaboo but Gondor is my favorite faction in the trilogy. I would love to be a Man of Gondor and live in Minas Tirith or Dol Amroth.
>>23196103dude I said that Bombadil might've been in part a reference to pagan concepts of hospitality (Tolkien studied pagan texts) and you immediately assumed i was a pagan and started sperging out and getting assmad at me. i have no idea how you can be so retarded. i'm not pagan. you're being a huge faggot.
>>23193038Let us be reality; the movies are better and some of the best films of all time
>>23196122>x is y>z studied y>you assumed I know y>why do you assume I am affiliated with y?!>why?>why?>reeeeee>YOU SPERGING OUT ASSMAD>I DID NOTHING WRONG>I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH Y>I AM NOT A FAGGOT YOU ARE>t. pegan pridethe fuck
>>23196132this nigga has to be trolling
>At that moment Freud slid off his chair in a faint. >As I was carrying him, In his weakness he looked at me as if I were his father.Have you ever won a debate so hard that your opponent faints so badly he wakes up and looks at you as if you're his parent?
>>23196099>The culture elite would declare him a religious nutcase and dismiss the whole enterprise of psychoanalysis which they did.Far from it, the psychoanalytic framework is still strongly in use, whether in the arts/academia/literary culture to discuss art, film, poetry, literature, etc., or well-learned psychologists who are open-minded and don’t just automatically dismiss older insights or frameworks just because they seem “old-fashioned” or “debunked” now, while also still keeping up with advancements in their field.Jung has almost always in many spheres been respected for a while now more as a mystic and philosopher, by many artists, thinkers, and writers, than strictly as an empirical scientist/psychologist — nevertheless, his work (and, by extension, psychoanalysis as presented by Jung) will live on for a while, even if more through the lens of the humanities than of scientists.>Secondly all of Freud’s contributions would be sidelined and ignored which they were.Again, far from it. Even very simple divisions like the conscious-unconscious, the idea of complexes, repression, a psychosexual component to mental distress, the id-ego-superego division, etc., these have been absorbed into culture and are still used by many, Freud’s influence is still there and he’s not just out-of-hand dismissed.
>>23196116>the conscious-unconscious, the idea of complexesThese aren't Freud's contributions.
>>23196116correct.when someone says "freudian/jungian psychology is outdated and not used anymore" what they're actually telling you is that they're a sophomore psych major, or consider themselves too progressive to buy into "gender essentialist" theories as espoused by jung/freud.anyone with a brain realizes that the main ideas of freud and jung were likely correct and continue to be relevant
>>23196125yes they are... at least spend 5 minutes googling this shit so you don't say something blatantly incorrect like this, dumbass
Freud's non-asinine (you want to fuck your mother) contributions were ripped from philosophers like Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Keierkegaard
>Myrnas not coming to save any of us
>>23194619
>>23194619he cute
You have to go outside to meet the Myrna that will save you.
>>23194619Oh, my God!
Why am I seeing this spammed everywhere? Did some Youtuber make a video essay?
>You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world.>We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.>Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned.
right wingers don't understand irony. the epic saga continues.
>>23195774filtered means the opposite of what you think it does, lol
>>23196113I get it, I can just agree with the subject despite your critique of it.
>>23196113>um, sweetie you don’t have the media literacy to discuss this
>>23196093Become what you hate.
>imagine someone holding forth on Biology whose only knowledge on the subject was The British Book of Birds and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on Theology
>>23195560>the same people who killed every alien and burned every druid are telling you god isn't realthinking emoji
>>23195586He was on this midwit's podcast recently and said the only change he'd make would be adding a chapter on...something. I forget, it was mid.
>>23196006https://youtu.be/gaRVzooavRI?si=PK6YWp8zLu0W0hmu&t=1306
>>23196006If you're so good wher's your podcast?
>>23196006>>23196013>look at his channel>most recent episode is "WILLIAM LANE CRAIG SUPPORTS SLAUGHTER IN THE BIBLE" as the title to advertise an entire episode and claim moral outrageYeah, that's enough to tell me this guy is a sophistic faggot.
>gets spectacularly BTFO'd towards the end of his life on literally everything he ever wrote about from languages to geopoliticsAny other authors like this?
>>23196039>>23190495Why is he debating some random twitch streamer
>>23188995What the fuck has Murakami to do with CHomsky?
>>23192863why would a leftist vote republican
>>23196051Only way he'd have access to Benny Moriss. Finklestein isn't an actual academic which he demonstrated in the debate.
>>23196039>All you have is Wickey-Pedia
>christians have LOTR/Narnia>muslims have Dune>jews have ???what is the SFF series for Judaism?
>>23195949do you not think that muslims have a messiah??? lmao you are retarded
>>23195949There are some parallels: a figure coming from a humble beginning to unite a people in war (admittedly, Paul's humble beginning is only that he lost all power he had claim to, the Prophet, peace be upon him, could not read when he first received Quran).The issue is whether one can be a 'messiah' without a divine origin.Even Jesus, in Islam, was born of Allah's work though both Allah and Jesus state that Jesus is not a messiah, merely a righteous man.
>>23196007enlighten me, who is the islamic messiah?
>>23196038https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=muslim+messiah
>>23195949The fremen religion in the book is literally called "ZenSunni".
I can't handle books and especially movies, which try to impregnate a feel onto you.For example I had a hard time reading Crime and Punishment or watching 2001: Space Odyssey and the two Blade Runner movies.The biggest problem is that I can appreciate them and I always try to describe a feeling in my writing like Dosto does with RRR's dread and remorse, or I try to freeze a beautiful scenery onto paper, but I just can t enjoy those things.It's all just go-go-go in my mind and I can't enjoy anything that isn't dialogue or plot, even action scenes get boring if they drag for too long.I am constantly living in fear due to my father and can't enjoy anything that takes it slow, even though I know I like those things.What do?
>>23194225Sounds like you got some kind of a mental illness. But that's common around these parts. Still might want to get it checked out, though most shrinks these days are nutjobs themselves.
I struggle to watch 2001 A Space Odyssey because I've had lifelong breathing problems from asthma and so hearing the guy breathe in the space suit makes me panic
I struggle to watch 2001 A Space Odyssey because I'd fall asleep
>>23194225Niggas afraid of books lmaoIn all seriousness however, try to care less about manually trying to enjoy these things and just relax and try reading something for about an hour or so until you enjoy it naturally instead. Unless you mean your father is going to beat you up for watching slow movies, then in that case I can’t help you.
>>23194225You have to find a way to leave home and leave that father and that life behind. I know it's easier said than done, but you have to do something now.
Who are the biggest badasses in literature?
>>23195871yeah i checked non-fiction is part of literature
>>23192849Jesus Christ.
>>23195927righteous? yeahbrave? suretrue? most certainlybut badass?nah that's the person who baptized him :3
Doctor David Livesey was honestly an utter badass in Treasure Island.
>>23196008looks kinda lika a faggot essealso ron is misspelled
Post recent historical figures who were extremely /lit/. Ideally within the last 100 years.Starting off with Pope Saint John Paul II, who was a poet and a playwright before he joined the clergy.
Has anyoneheard about this author?
>>23195725In his work called "Interview" he says that the soviet union was actually a right-wing dictatorship because it stopped being left-wing when it started oppressing the people, because being left-wing is when you liberate people and want them to be free and being right-wing is when you want to oppress them...I couldn't take him seriously at all after reading such a retarded train of thought.>Hamvas is not a traditionalistThe guy who wrote Scientia Sacra wasn't a perennialist, you say?Why did you link a translation, anyway? What use could I have for a translation if I can read him in the original?
>>23196060>The guy who wrote Scientia Sacra wasn't a perennialist, you say?Here:>Is reconciliation allowed?The cause of trouble is early reconciliation. I accept no community that exists today. Not a people, not a nation, not a caste, not a class, not a race, not a religion, not a worldview. The only community whose importance I acknowledge for myself is the community of saints, the Church. The unity of humanity under the sign of the Gospel. To be alone is madness, but better to be mad than corrupt. The clergy, the army, industry, banks, the nation, the state, the university, socialism, fascism, communism, the fashionable citizen, even the fashionable proletarian have united into a single apparatus for undermining existence within which we find ourselves in a permanent state of war. What is called the struggle for survival. I do not recognize this order of life, and I consider it illegal. Readiness for war is readiness for murder. Or compromise. In reality, compromise is the solution of a weak man, if there is no meal, then at least crumbs. The result is a pseudo-pacified man, who foolishly rushes to squander until ruin for small pleasures. And about everything, however, to remain silent, to pretend as if it is a passing confusion, and to console oneself with the thought that, finally, it has always been so throughout history. Against this, only one attitude is possible: the most decisive opposition and uncompromising stance at every point. Anathema. There is no reconciliation. A man should reserve for himself the whole reserve of the world’s hatred, so as not to give in, and so as not to be able to yield. In this hatred must be the radical humanity of man. Fury is my reconciliation. I tolerate no corruption of being anywhere, in anyone.
>>23196123Yeah, this style and hyperbolic rhetoric is why people call him bombastic in Hungarian.
>>23195976Well said.
>>23196133As someone wrote for Guenon (and is even more true for Hamvas):>I doubt that anyone, with normal tastes and the baggage of modern intellectual education, does not feel a repulsion at the first encounter with Guénon’s work.h8dr
Audiobooks cost $40+??? That is insane. I have to imagine amazon is forcing this price point to get subscriptions. Guess I will just have to wait on Libby.
Abb
>>23194646>digital copy is more expensive than paper booknigga u dumb? read once and then produce infinite copies of said audio book for no additional costs
>>23194638>buy a used book for $4Physicalchads win again
>>23194638if you're willing to pay, what's wrong with the subscription then?
>>23196063I want to own it. I don't want to be a stooge sending a monthly subscription to every company that wishes to rent seek.
Post em.
>>23183743I don't feel like getting out of bed, but my stack is currently Erotism by Bataille, the New Annotated Lovecraft, and I'm about to get a copy of the uncanny by Royle. Kinda wanna get this book on the philosophy of psychosis by Kusters. Attempting to hone my writing at the moment.
>>23183811>Tom is doodWorld's most unserious language
>>23193691just picked up Erotism by Bataille as well, haven't started it really yet just skimmed the first couple chapters. Have a feeling it will be extremely repetitive.
bought these three today at a second hand bookshop in asunciòn paraguay. the first one is a really well researched collection of transcribed oral tales from an indigenous people that lives in one of the least hospitable habitats on the planet. the second one is an indiana-jones-esque pseudoarchaeology pop adventure novel written by some french guy i’d never heard of which actually includes some surprisingly interesting references to unknown ‘mysterious’ (actually existing) places in this country. and the third one i only bought because it’s completely covered in schizo notes and ramblings and that’s also what I love about second hand bookshops
>Novel: characters are introspective and speak about their political and philosophical views.>Manga: Characters are just trying to level up and talk about fighting strategiesWhy is this? I am fascinated by how simple a character like Goku is. I can't escape my education (indoctrination) that claims characters must be like Hamlet or Stephen Dedalus. Even in action packed Sci-fi/Fantasy novels you get these navel gazing characters.
>>23195953I thought turning the other cheek (he tried to spare Frieza) was weak low testosterone slave morality?
>>23194390It fails to be entertaining..
>>23194333A lot of shounen has some good philosophical musings and ideas in there though. The Japanese are very into this along with their melodrama, something like Bleach or Naruto for instance has a lot of that. They’re definitely not as good as classical literature but they’re pretty good and definitely not devoid of meaning.
>>23196015OH SHIT NIETZSCHE BROS GOKU BETA SOI KEK INCEL LOW T???????
>>23196015That’s why Bejita is the ubermench, also the anime ruined Gokus pvre vibe and made it about le defending the weak and shit