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Today is America’s 250th birthday and ITT post any well known/best-selling book written by an American.
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Obvious answer is obvious.
No, my name's not 'Patricia', cool your jets.
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one of my fav american books
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>>25385637
>The July 4 version contains the text as adopted by Congress
Actually Congress approved a change to the text before the final document was signed.
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>>25384693
My mother liked her a lot
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>>25384726
You're the blackest nigger

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2026... I am forgotten...
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>>25384114
knowing what hot seed on your back feels like doesnt mean anything, bigot
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>>25385768
llms are optimized to be like customer service, they will never produce good art because their priority is de-escalation and user satisfaction, just rhetorical equivalents of "would you like fries with that"
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>>25385775
>he is unaware
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>>25385808
There are bot LLMs primed to talk like an antagonistic 2012 4chan user, it's not that hard
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>>25384291
The daughter emotionally cucks him again for a better sorcerer.

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Do you find that you retain less of the material?
Is the retention insufficient enough that the ability to multi-task is not worth it?
Is the medium worse or better for certain genres?
Do you find any extra satisfaction in audiobooks?
Or any other opinions that you hold?

Feel free to condescend and high-horse against those who listen to audiobooks, too.
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>>25379200
i stopped listening to audiobooks in favour of ai summaries. i ask chatgpt to give me a few dozen academic work suggestions in whatever field i am currently interested in, download them from annas, upload them into a chatgpt project, then ask it to give me a couple of prompts i can use for it to generate a series of overviews that will give me as much value as possible without the usual fluff that makes books "well written". i am in my knowledge and optimization era
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>>25379796
>A good reader who acts out the dialog makes the experience live.
This. Narrators make or break a book. A shame there are more garbage narrators than good ones, and the good ones only read mainstream shite.
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>>25380444
if you have to ask, you don't need to know.
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>>25384254
>It's philosophy is a offshoot of gnosticism, not science or the anything to do with seeking truth in the real world.
Science has nothing to do with "truth seeking", materialist retard.
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Audible is for suckers ever since they changed it to lock titles you already purchased with credits when your membership is not active. Total rip off. Jist use audio book bay unless you buy titles with cash

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Whatever happened to young ladies reading the Bible?
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>>25385555
that's obv a dude lol
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>where are all the young cute christian bookworms
taking it up the ass as usual
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>>25385552
women only read the Bible because they were told to.
now with emancipation and feminism they only read books because they were told to.
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>>25385579
he's cute
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>>25386076
i want to take his bussy and fill it with bubbly wubblies

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>Seen above other gods and shapes of things,
>Swift without feet and flying without wings,
>Intolerable, not clad with death or life,
>Insatiable, not known of night or day,
>The lord of love and loathing and of strife
>Who gives a star and takes a sun away;
>Who shapes the soul, and makes her a barren wife
>To the earthly body and grievous growth of clay;
>Who turns the large limbs to a little flame
>And binds the great sea with a little sand;
>Who makes desire, and slays desire with shame;
>Who shakes the heaven as ashes in his hand;
>Who, seeing the light and shadow for the same,
>Bids day waste night as fire devours a brand,
>Smites without sword, and scourges without rod;

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>>25383587
Pythagoras disapproves
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>>25383265
>And the same wind sang and the same waves whitened,
>And or ever the garden's last petals were shed,
>In the lips that had whispered, the eyes that had lightened,
>Love was dead.

>This flower that smells of honey and the sea,
>White laurustine, seems in my hand to be
>A white star made of memory long ago
>Lit in the heaven of dear times dead to me.

>O king, thou art wise, but wisdom halts, and just,
>But the gods love not justice more than fate,
>And smite the righteous and the violent mouth,
>And mix with insolent blood the reverent man's

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>>25383265
Pink gammons sizzle on slick black griddle
flame kissed tomatoes and streaky bacon
soft summer butter spread thickly across
syrup-soaked hot toasty buns and pancakes
smokey maple sweet summer breakfast treat
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>>25385205
Are you AB Scorch?
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>>25385263
Sorry I'm not familiar with that name

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They avoid effort, avoid trying anything, as to try would leave them vulnerable to the plain remimder that they really are responsible for themselves and that their lack of achievement and procrastination cannot be couched in a cozy delusion that one is a loser because of an act of God and factors beyond the discernment and advisement of peers and clinicians or even poets.

People who after highschool sat on the computer doing nothing for 10 or 15 years that have never had the courage to even attempt a hobby and are now heavily alienated and emotionally barricaded behind tectonic plates of self-doubt and are now vicarious and anonymous specters haunting themselves, becoming so closed off that they reprimand themselves for even feeling joy, as if anything good in life is but a trick and the joke has been over for a long time.

They also can't accept compliments because they have trained themselves to feel nothing about them because feeling self-esteem triggers an urge to suppress that and instead assume that they are just getting lazier and not analyzing their flaws because there is a general distortion in them that dictates that they must always be wrong or that their view is fundamentally worthless. When people try to reach out and help them they will become slippery and self-prosecutory and like they are trying to convince everyone that they are a loser so when those people eventually give up on them, it's used as confirmation to continue neglecting and denying themselves
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>>25384428
it's just some mopey guy who finished high school and then scrolled the web for 15 years and now has some regret lol
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>>25384396
The protagonist of my diary desu
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>>25384396
Benny Profane, a schlemihl and human yo-yo
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>>25384448
You cannot fathom the suffering of being an Australian in the modern age
I hate it here
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adhd and major depression and autism in conjunction will pretty much delete your life especially if you're just average before all the mental illnesses

I just finished watching this manuscript after reading the original audiobook.
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I just finished taking a shit
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As someone who has been to state prison and kept the company of many killers, including professionals, I can't really get on board with how McCarthy likes to depict them. The rare ones that are philosophical are not talkative unless you push them to open up, and they tend to be extremely cynical and regard most human beings as timid rabbits, far too boring to bother toying with unless it is about overtly threatening or kicking around in contempt. But most of them are just jolly soldier types and think of themselves that way, low on intelligence but frequently high on craftiness and loyalty
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>>25385892
Why were you in for anon?

>scientifically proves magic is real
>materialists still claim they are scientific
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>>25384601
This. I've read half of the OP book and some of the stuff in it is interesting to think about if nothing else, but upon looking into him more, I'm confronted with what (at face value) appears to be pure quackery.
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>>25385077
Why? Who do you think I am?
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>>25379187
Because they were raised religious and taught that "materialism" is the boogeyman.
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>>25385959
>materialism is the boogeyman
Elaborate on what positive fruits you believe "materialism" has brought to the world.
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>>25386145
I assume that anon will say every single good thing that happened because of academia in any way.

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What are some books that you've read twice?
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I've re-read several stuff by Woolf, Stein, Heidegger and Faulkner this year.
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>>25384961
The White Tiger
The Alchemist
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>>25384961
I hate reading, it is a chore. I've never reread a book, only care to move on to the next to check the box of my self worth.
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im realizing i reread quite a lot

>>25384961
The Things They Carried (probably 5-6 times)
Invisible Man
Perks of Being a Wallflower
The Common Law
Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo
Great Gatsby (was told to read this in high school, and so i did, and then we just read it in class---i didn't like it very much)
A Biography of the Constitution (Akhil Reed Amar)
The Color of Law
The Love Hypothesis (I do love this genre of slop)

Numerous Childrens Books (ik this doesn't count but i worked at a preschool for a long time and i read some books dozens and dozens of times---don't even get me started on '12 days of christmas' books)
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>>25384961
LOTR and the Hobbit
BotNS
Fear And Trembling
Symposium, The Death of Socrates
Marcus Aurelius' Meditations (meh)
A Confederacy Of Dunces
Other stuff I've forgotten. These are just the ones I know I've reread a lot.

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Any books that help cure alcoholism
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>>25380176
AA was created by a man who believed LSD could cure alcoholism. I will LSD's praises to the ends of the goddam earth. It's the closest thing to magic on this earth. However, my brother was also a "head" like me, and he died of acute alcohol withdrawal. Alcohol can kill you if you stop cold turkey! I think you need as much support as you can get - accountability, whatever. You have to ration it out (but willpower only gets you so far) and you have to have acountability, or medication or something. Appealing to God works for some people, that's how AA works nowadays. Accountability plus god. If six cans gets you pretty buzzed still, you probably won't die if you don't drink again cold turkey. But it will be hell.
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>>25383683
if you've never noticed that people start to talk and behave more flamboyantly while they're high, you might already be too gay for it to stick out to you.
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>>25384134
>thinks everything is secretly gay when high
u might be projecting just saying
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This helped me quit. He's got one for smoking as well.
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>>25380074
Tolstoy-Why do men stupefy themselves?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/tolstoy/1890/why-do-men-stupefy-themselves/

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Do you ever share your poetry or fiction here? Ever since I was 18, I posted my work on /lit/ and not once has anyone said anything constructive. But I still do it because I like the honesty and ability to not hold back criticism. I am a published poet and have five short stories in print. I feel comfortable in my skin now, and I’m happy 4chan was so critical of my work early on, that I got better in the long run. I posted my novel drafts here before, or my poetry, or my prose. Every time, someone has been scathing or burst my delusions of grandeur.
Now, I’ve sort of put poetry and fiction on the back burner. I am more into music and film photography now; I always stop and start different art projects.

But I think I got better because of the harsh criticism from /lit/ and I’ll return to poetry and prose soon.
So thanks, /lit/, for being real with me.
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Sublimation is not going to help you.
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>>25385821
What the fuck are you talking about? Sublimation is a word that exists and is used independently of whatever fucking publishing outfit has taken it as a name?? I meant it in the sense of its actual definition; I’m not talking about some publishing house?? It’s absurd that you would even assume that.
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>>25385847
replied to the wrong post sorry
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>>25384258
>There's a nigger on /wg/ that says everything in present tense is automatically shit
And he's right
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>>25384117
Yeah, all the time. Made me a much better writer. Most are too precious and feel attacked, but eventually your ego dies and you screen the helpful from the spiteful. Now? I've got chops.

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>>25385512
Didn't say that
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https://archive.org/details/orbispictusofjoh00come
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>>25382579
I feel like I read this book long ago. Was this written by John Locke or Descartes by any chance?
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>>25385565
Richard Whately
https://archive.org/details/easylessonsonrea01what
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>>25385805
Thanks.
No wonder it seemed familiar, then. I'm pretty sure I read his "Elements of Rhetoric".

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Name a more annoying reader base
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People who wear horror movie antagonist branded clothing
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>>25385529
The bible
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>>25385529
Most of them, what are you talking about? Horror fans are least annoying in any medium. They're unapologetic in their enjoyment, know it's almost all schlock and stick to themselves.
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>>25385529
...Monkey./Homer Simpson voice

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How can we preserve books for posterity, when institutions fail and society devolves into a simpler form? Or are we going into a 3rd century style crisis where there will be a loss of books?
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>>25385589
The most effective option in my mind is sending a copy to land on the moon where the future civilization's space program will eventually find it. No barbarians, no bugs, no water and no animals or wind. A slight risk of a meteor strike but negligible. You could also draw a big circle (or some other shape that rarely happens in nature) around it. They'll figure out astronomy sooner or later and the gians circle on the moon will be the first apot they'll want to check out
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>>25385598
But provided the apocalypse doesn't happen, we will likely have an opposite issue. Too much preservation. Everything written before the printing press had to stand the test of time and be good enough to spend time, paper and ink on it. Now any old piece of slop is guaranteed decades and centuries of shelflife. You can help future generations by teaching them to pick and choose their entertainment.
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>>25370910
/thread
Christian monks had to translate and copy the classics by hand, all while under threat of being murdered by some slobbering illiterate Viking, Arab, or Mongol. We have it easy compared to them.
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>>25385598
>future civilization's space program
This was the last chance, though. We have used all easily accesible, rich mineral mines, depleted all easily extractable oil wells and coal mines. How is a future post-collapse civilization going to rebuild technology, if the only resources remaining require a very advanced technological civilization to extract them in the first place?

Forget it, this was the last train out.
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>>25370889
The degenerate races consider themselves more educated and more literate than the vitalist, male conqueror races that come to save their decaying civilizations. The ancient Germanics did not care for literature one bit and considered it a waste of time, during the days they had come to save the tottering Roman administration.

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is a sub-par but honest style better than trying too hard and being pretentious?
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>>25384677
>Objectively bad

People have been fat fetishists for over 5000 years. It's one of the oldest fetishes along with feet. If it were really that bad it'd have been bred out of the human race by now, but it hasn't been, so clearly it has God's blessing.
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>>25384544
>fat women are always placed at the lowest place in hypergamy and hence they don't get any attention from an average male in dating game
Yeah, fat women are famously scorned throughout the entirety of human history, kek.
>>25384547
This. But homosexuals just don't get it.
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>>25385686
>People have been fat fetishists for over 5000 years.
Not only there was no porn, but people couldn't even physically get hamplanet fat 5000 years ago. Stop bringing up the retarded orangutan statuette from the neolithic.
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>>25381277
Yes. The experienced reader is no longer amused by clever tricks. Content is king.
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>>25385686
Bloody bitch ate all the rice I curse you


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