What's the point of writing anything at this point? It really does seem like the literature age has ended.
>>25344659Yeah if you're an idiot
Ten thousand people is a bigger audience than any writer before 1800s ever had in their lifetime, maybe Shakespeare had more, but it's cheating to be playwright for a whole capital city. In Second Sophistic they had to travel around Rome to personally find an audience.It has always been an elite activity, 19th - 20th century was the exception.
>>25344659True artists will still pursue their calling, regardless of their prospects of acclaim.Dilettantes, meanwhile, will whine like bitches and lose their motivation.
Kys frogposter
>>25344659what is the ‘literature age’? 800BC - 1967?frogposter iq
best books on mythology, gods, folklore...trying to figure out who I should worship.
>>25342694I’m not israeli
>>25343975>>25342684>>25343968assumedly he want a comparitive analysis, a compendium of mytho-religious views, probably consisting of major groups including Greco-roman, Mesopotamian, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Norse, Hindu, Buhdist, Shinto, and a spritz of lesser known indiginous ones like Native American Navajo, South African Zulu, and Central Asian Mongolian.>>25342670Not quite a compendium, but Verieties of Religious Experience is a profound and eloquent examination of religiousness and spirituality in general.Though "myths and legends of all nations" is another classic.
>>25342684Nice self-own that the Bible is just mythology and folklore ...
>>25342670All gods are just projections of Jungian archetypes.This is why mysticism > religion. The truth lies within.
>>25342694Try harder.
Was Hegel right about Kant's infinite progress? Is it true that a philosophy that is oriented toward the radical openness of the future must logically collapse into Spinozistic holism? Is this really a 'spurious' infinity (a limit that constantly recurs) that must be supplanted by the 'genuine' infinity of indifference (a limit that is no limit)? Or did he get it all completely backwards?
>>25344516Your inability to think through them doesn't change anything. Kierkegaard still gets stuck at the same point, Kant admits no knowledge, and Fichte moves on. Spinoza is arguably one that can still challenge, but this has more to do with the network of subsidiary thinkers who used his system than it does with Spinoza himself. Saying Hegel thought capitalism was great is mostly an oversight on your part. He had multiple paradoxes on it and at best you might be able to claim he thought division of labor would increase efficiency of abstract labor. This also doesn't take into account his economic illiteracy on certain topics, to give an example Hegel mostly thought value had to be generated for something to happen, otherwise a simple exchange value doesn't register to him. He couldn't defend capitalism if he wanted to since he can't technically admit a stable or static currency. This ultimately was beneficial to him but he also has to acknowledge and recognize MMT which isn't capitalist. This quirk also means M-M can evade him and operate completely off his radar. Some of his paradoxes also make it difficult for him to argue for capitalism beyond a mere stage in history where progress was made. This is probably an idea of your own headcannon from arguing with the regulars here.He thought the time of art conveying the highest and ultimate truths was over but he didn't say it was dead. Think more of a leisure pursuit.
>>25344584>Kierkegaard still gets stuck at the same point, Kant admits no knowledge, and Fichte moves onThe last post you wrote was relatively lucid but this is gibberish. “Kant admits no knowledge” do you think it’s profound to write nonsense? I get it, you think Hegel is le based and you hardly understand him after all. Many such cases. You talk about ‘head canon’ but your entire reading of the Outlines is hallucinatory. You seem to think that because Hegel was no economist he did not value markets and capitalism. You talk about “multiple paradoxes” as if Hegel did not explicitly believe that he had solved all paradoxes by transcending the entweder/oder. Fuck you for wasting my time like this, you have holes in your brain and you make shit up. You think you’re le profound by writing retarded gibberish. Philosophy is a science.
>>25344628>muh kierkegaard>muh me meta muh me makin cappy no cap religious for no reason>muh hurr durr check out me ultra modern sensibilities that result in vapid materialismYou are your own problem.
>>25344516You're talking to the schizo Swede, "perform the calculation" etc.
>>25344713>before one can love the most esoteric schizo one must love the normiest normie.
Why did this kike fall off?
>>25344687Most punchable face ever
>>25344687Because retards like him can only be carried so far until inertia sets in and they get exposed for being retarded one-trick ponies who think they're smarter than they actually are
>>25344687> he who gathereth without Me, scattereth abroad-t. washington, 1776
>supposedly the best out of the four Chinese classics>I haven't a clue what the fuck is going onDo I need to read other texts before I read Dream?
>>25344203What you say?
>>25344178>No, because much of Ulysses is pre-assimilated for you by virtue of growing up in a western society.No it is not. Hazarding a guess here that you haven't read Ulysses.>Can you imagine reading Moby Dick or The Scarlet Letter without a foundational knowledge of Christianity gained by osmosis? Yes, easily.>I think people with your mindset have absorbed too much of that ideology which claims that there are no fundamental differences between the western and eastern mindProjection.
>>25344213LMAO very clever joke anon
i don't trust chinese literature, i read Water Margin, one of the other 3 classics last year, and it was pretty bad. i don't get why the high praise, i guess the prose loses all its musicality and magic with the translation. in terms of plot it's sometimes interesting and fun, like the subplot with the adulterer who plots with her neighbour to murder her husband, but most of the times it's extremely repetitive and boring, the book drags on and on. all of the characters are plain, charicatures almost, and there are so many heroes that are literally the same guy with different name. i didn't hate it, i finished it and it was often amusing, and interesting in its own right since i had never read anything like it, but it's not a good book
>>25343622Just go along with it and take the story in, it'll happen naturally
Have you gone through your dark night of the soul?
Any novels that take place in this region of the world?
The Victual Brothers yaoi novels are peak.
>>25343787*stage cough*
>>25343787
>>25344168Yeah I wasn’t impressed enough by the flounder to particularly want to read more of his work. It is ok though and I’d recommend it if you’re hard up for something different to read. It spans several centuries, including the Hanseatic period, albeit largely from the perspective of a medium to large sized bottom dwelling fish
>>25344404Kill yourself and go back to ticktock
Are there any books about clowns or juggling or anything in that nature?
>>25343418https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulrophiliaseek help. will keep you in my prayers.
>>25342347The Great and Only Barnum; the Tremendous, Stupendous Life of Showman P. T. Barnum
Is there a reason why degenerate porn addicts have a fetish for clowns for the past few years?Is it zoomers being ironic, or is it genuine?
>>25343797same as autistic millennials like chris chan. just kids growing up mentally raped and mainly engaging with media as a surrogate parent. i think this post by OP was inspired by the clown character that they added to fortnite
>>25343797Memes. That is it.
what are some good old magazines to read? I'm trying to be more analog and love books, but want more casual reading. I like playboy, heavy metal, wired, maxim, hustler, muscle & fitness, penthouse, field & stream, and scientific american.
>>25342001No problem. Site's here if you haven't found it already:https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/There are also tons of old literary magazines that /lit/ put together, of varying quality. They're listed here:https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Collaborative_WorksMost are only available as PDFs, but a neat one I've been meaning to get a copy of is another best-of collection, A Short Fiction Anthology (a compilation of /lit/ flash fiction), which only exists in print.
>>25341937Playboy
>>25341937How to totally ignore women.it's my favorite magazine.
>>25341937A book store near me sets out lots of old arts/critical/literary magazines on deep discounts seasonally, like one or two dollars each. I don't have any specific magazines to recommend, just if you've got a local equivalent you can pick through for what's interesting for cheap.
>>25341937I've found that books which collect essays scratch this itch for me nicely. You can finish reading them in 30 minutes or less then have something to think about for a while.
>Spend the whole story building Cthulhu up as some grand cosmic entity that is powerful beyond imagination>Some random sailor dude single-handedly defeats him by ramming his boat into him and gets awayIs this some sort of practical joke? Did Lovecraft hide the pages of the true ending inside the cover of the book somewhere?
>>25330538Lovecraft wrote garbage for garbage publications. The modern equivalent would be worldbuilding/lore fags.
>>25337926>>25333467Colour out of Space was kind of meh. More dreadful and depressing as opposed to his other work which is creepy in a more subtle and cozy way.
>>25337738This and Shadow over Innsmouth were the only stories that creeped me out. Mountains of madness was a pulpslop lore dump. The rest were boring or I'm desensitized to their themes.
>>25330571it was one bajillion kajillion years since the sunken city of Rl'yeh was above water. Cthulhu gets a boat rammed into his head and decides "yeah I'm just gonna go take the jammy time express back to sleepy town zzzzz"it was bullshit
Dream-Quest >>>>> everything else he wrote
Why was he so up in his feelings about Joyce and Ulysses?
>>25344200Not even trying.
>>25344196You've done Step 2 already, hurry up onto Step 3 already
>>25344206Got it backwards.
>>25344217Wrong again, now get back to work and apply yourself.
>>25344219Says the one not trying.
Is baldness prerequisite for being good writer? Discuss.
>>25343976>repeat mainstream slopinion>call someone mindless puppetkek. Vancura mogs Joyce and Hamsun both in writing and in life, saying this won't get you good boy points on internet (and there is 99,99% chance you have never read anything by him, compared to 98% chance you have never read anything by Joyce or Hamsun - we are on lit afterall) so you won't agree, but it¨s a fact. He was probably the only writer who was able to resist nazi torture without telling them anything (as admited by nazi reports), not only that he was also such a chad that he was expelled from communist party for life during 1920s.
>25344056stick to video games and anime
>>25344057Cool advice, but seeing as playing videogames and watching anime has turned you into retard, I won't follow your example - but hey you keep doing you, I will keep reading books and you can keep on watching children's cartoon. But maybe you should rethink posting on this board (not much to do with your interests) and go post on one of the ones that is about cartoons, that would be cool.
I hear Berserk and Elden Ring are popular with the midwits these days, I'd suggest you start there.
>>25343934fpbp
Redolent in the air was the scent of heroin being smoked and shit wafting into the living room from the rectangular hole where there used to be a bathroom door. Crack rock crackled in a hash pipe and someone was doing a line of speed off the round table; the mensa, thought Damien Fogarty. Around this mensa those who floated had a yellowish pallor similar to the paint on the walls between the graffiti. When the front door was smashed in by a single kick, the crackhead was the first to react.“Fuck, lads. What the fuck is this?”A can of Guinness was thrown quickly on the floor and the open window was the escape route. Many, at least those who lived, would recall never having seen a person move so fast and fluidly. But as they clamoured towards the open window, hurley sticks smashed them with a calculated randomness. A blow across the temple left one of them on the ground, blood leaking from their nostrils. His head was later stomped on, but the fire would remove all trace of that. A woman was next to make it out of the window, and she was the owner of the ground floor flat. She didn’t look back. As a young man, the youngest in the group at twenty-three, was beaten about the head with a hammer, Damien Fogarty made his own escape through the smashed front door. As he spilled out onto the street he could see people stopping and gasping at the building. Flames licked the sides of the walls and rose up like some liquid defying gravity. Two men with balaclavas on rushed out and were on the back of an electric bike before the onlookers even had their phones out. Inside, screams like Damien had never heard before rang shrilly into his ears, and a figure emerged engulfed in orange, red, and yellow.
It feels good to come back to picrel and read some wholesome and sane philosophy every now and then. In modern philosophy everyone is so mindbroken by Christianity and realism, later on by idealism, it’s not even funny. And it’s always the same: religious households, becoming rebellious and spending the rest of their lives trying to own the Christians and the aristotelians and platonists and the hegelians and so on. Quite the inferiority complex.Anyway, been reading phaedo again and it’s just beautiful.Retvrn to the Greeks from time to time.
>>25343271once the greeks started trying to decry myth, they went to pieces altogether. they tried to put in its place what we would now call scientific concepts. they tried to give it a literal explanation. socrates jokes about myths, and horace makes fun of them. they simply had no use for poetic thought.
>>25343271Heraclitus is great too. But 81 Fragments surviving is brutal.Socrates said he affirms everything in Heraclitus that he understood.>>25343290Then don’t progress to critical philosophy, you won’t survive there.
>>25343271>>25343257Hegel wrote a great artical on the topic . Forgot the name of it, But focused on how the whole mindset shifted from before plato to after and that was the real monumental shift in kind between the ancient and modern world. Wish I could remember it.I mean I can kind of understand, pre-idealism there is a lot of interesting, raw works, but I do think the advent of something more ruminative and structured going into the Hellenistic period with plato and aristotle is also undeniably compelling
>>25343366logic, from the greek logikon, means 'something which has been arranged in words.' since words never wholly cover the phenomena to which they are applied, those who rely on pure logic cannot be thinking truly.
>>25343257you'd love neoplatonism anon give it a go
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>>25341241There was an age when all men of character were expected to be poets. And they were, by God.How far we have fallen.
>>25342363Yeah it's pretty cringe that we've lost that. It also makes me sad to think about what was lost in terms of stories and folk poetry and shit produced outside of that rarified sphere.
>>25343593When did that era end? Only a few decades ago it seems, but perhaps it was centuries.
>>25341241>>25341258This spelling is much better than any of the standardized varieties of English around today.
>>25343674the english they spoke at the time was quite different
