https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scott_Card>Card, who is a great-great-grandson of Brigham Young>he was a student at Brigham Young University>He served in Brazil as a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church)EtcMany of his works reference evolution and other topics that contradict his faithWhat gives?
>>25511887Mormonism itself is science fiction, so this tracks.
>>25511887He actually tried to write a proper novel. Not the nonsense people called SF.
>>25511898Have you read wyrms?That shit is straight weird
How exactly are you supposed to get a real literature education in the modern day? There are like 5 different mostly still in print shakespeare commentaries but once you move past that you'll be lucky to get one university printed $100+ dollar commentary with 3 reviews for any other book you might be interested in, is there really no multi volume doorstopper that discusses the most influential books from the western canon on a deeper level?
>>25511708Most pseud post of the day so far, congrats!
>>25510368I bought that book based on an anon's advice some months ago and can confirm it's top tier. Maybe it was you
>>25510349USA education overrun by leftists
>>25511728>You imply American scholarship on Shakespeare is bad>I ask why you think this>You can't tell me why>I point this out>>You're a pseud!
>>25511753Probably was me, I haven't seen any other anons talk about it on here. Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful! <3 u shakespeare
>>25511138I'll never deny that it exercises an influence. What I wonder is how much? It delaying a succesful conception by months does indeed add up in the long term, especially if you want 5+ kids.
>>25508602>declining birthrates???
>>25508602>rising tide of poo
>>25510968Fair
>>25511030Books for this feel?
General thoughts on this piece of work?
>You are.... LE CROWD!>Here, the cover is of... LE HERD OF SHEEP! >That's (You) btw. (You) are... LE SHEEP>One might even say.... SHEEPLE! >Sheep+People= SHEEPLE>That's (YOU) >(You) are a SHEEPThe amount of times I've seen this as a book cover is really fucking sad. These people really think they're doing something profound/deep when they do this shit for the nine trillionth time.
>>25509031sheep smell and they trample
>>25509031Just say you want to fuck a sheep
>>25508818>sheepthat book is for reddit
>>25510159Weird, a lot of a bunch of trolling and not a lot of recommending. I guess thats what I get for posting on 4chan dot org. Derp.
I just finished reading A Season in Hell, and I can't stop re-reading it to enjoy the sheer artistry in it. I want to ask if there are any other prose poets as good as Arthur Rimbaud. I'd prefer prose poems that lean heavily toward the poem side of things, not just authors with a poetic writing style, though if options are thin, that's fine too.
>>25511006>Une saison en enfer is […] Completely immature teenager rubbish
>>25509788Clark Ashton Smith
>>25511006You think so? I loved the imagery and the strange, ambiguous sentence structure.
>>25509828So you're basically saying that OP should learn French?
>>25511615That's where the poème en prose originated
Destined to be a bonafide classic. Have you bought your copy yet?
>>25510075>the overview of the kabbalistic tree of lifeJust finished that part. I don't plan on practicing hardly anything in this book. The Kabbalistic cross/blessing seemed neat tho.
>>25509377And what happen then? The apple will really change colour? Or it is just an ilusioin?
>>25511484Yes but only if you are ensouled. You are ensouled right anon?
>>25504295BUTTPIMPLE
>>25511493I asked two questions. You asked third. And there is only a half of an answer.
America, i hereby charge thee witha guilty sloth, & thou may'nt plead the 5th.Answer me then, citizens, once-grand;all the world was happy in your hand,and then -- no, I will not speak of it.Ah let me, while the jambus-throne I sit,live in a seely world awhile still.Much misery can a little glitter kill.I am at war, almost alone, yet Iturn my eyes now up to the august sky, and there I see great things, a dash enorm,a sudden golden chevauchée, a stormupon their keeps & secret places: Lo;it's so, yet where the bolt will slip, who knows?
this thread still bumping is. what magic this?does board itself still float me up in bliss?a feller says, til our 350thi may (if fruitless, wae) peel out in pith.if that bee true, i've dropped the load for aught:how i these trackless leaves have hackt and fought,and but to fight some more! hello, hello!a rammes greate horne (or else a conch's whole) i blowe;come all, come far, come here, come grimme, come free,come all fooles, leedle-leedle-leedle-leedle-lidl-LEEDLE-LEEEEE,please write (i'm dying) anything that's fourteen lines for me... my partymask, i will take off; againi'll sette my loome, and frame, and lick my pen,and in reblowne full fervor flare my kenne!
that bonus morning (fourth), we (cheerie) went.one doomed may finde (past time) each hour's joy.each coyne we have is (quick as can be) spent:i bought a pinke dough-ring, whose scent did cloywith strawberries masht: its sweetness did annoyolde death; i felt him curse to taste (yblentwith lead-sweet wine) such chevauchee du roias then i felt: a boye againe; all thingstook uppe their proper places, regained wings;all pesterers and traitors lost their stingsfor i anew felt plumpe and vernall pentand rich with spring's green gold: erelong i lent;just then it all came back, now past my death:if it will feele this good, o stop my breath.
how soone i will be cantering, i don't know:what all is in this street, that is my now;the next will be whenas i to it go.on Tiber's bank, still (haply) slow arow,a boater and his wife were in a rowe,about why certayne waters did inflow,she in steering sterne, he in prow.he blamed the tar she patched, she blamed his bumps:"each unmarkt tooth which juts, the vessel thumps;no tar can patch such boat, an't never jumpes."he herre, "mark everyway, Tibris cloggedis with boats' bottoms; all wayes are so dogged.i steerst me fairly well, wot i, and ayethe fathertaught..." they passed a bridge. aye, aye!
>>25511827You sit like a prissy FAGGOT
i met the good jerboam halfway there.we watched a fruiterer high-crie his wares,as if each peach were aye ane condite rare.on each his fingertippe would brush the haires.he'd warble, singe, and as at all he starestrembling with tremolo the aires'very masse. i pay for three, he tarestheir weight, then gives three pennies back to mee."below a pound, which shall not do," sang hee."i owe pence each now back to you." my mee;how those who monger take such gen'rous care,while those who take, owe none: and is this fair?caesar says he's sun: pay us for nightthen, for fog, for cloude; thou'rt bond to light.
>pick up pic related>the titular Miss Marple is barely involved in the plot, she's just observing around like a lethargic cat>most of the time she shows up at the last ten pages to solve the murder with evidence that wasn't available to the readerIsn't this kinda bad?Also mystery/detectiveslop thread I guess.
hello all. im looking for poetry/short stories to feel hopeful. more specifically, if anythings comes to mind: being in a hostile situation and it feels that youre fucked forever (and to a great extent, you are!).i really like this one, by gwendolyn brooks. i would appreciate recommendations greatly. thank you
>>25509157Invictus by William Ernest Henley is a good one.
Maybe cliche but dont go gentle into that good night is like the ultimate dont give up poem.Do not go gentle into that good night,Old age should burn and rave at close of day;Rage, rage against the dying of the light.Though wise men at their end know dark is right,Because their words had forked no lightning theyDo not go gentle into that good night.Good men, the last wave by, crying how brightTheir frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,Rage, rage against the dying of the light.Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25509157I like this one by AR Ammons a lot.
>>25510097Its been rendered melodramatic and cheesy by overuse in media
>>25510134It's still a great poem
Are there any good video game lore books out there, or are they all key-jingling dopamine rat traps on paper instead of on screen
>>25507339What about a guide book to a game that never existed?
i play a lot of games and have been gifted these huge fancy lorebooks and i doubt any of that shit has merit. it's merchandise, funkos in paper. video game lore sucks ass.
>>25507357Came here to say this.Baldurs gate is based the DnD world of the forgotten realms. You can dive really deep into that.
>>25510211>the world building was interestingwrong>I liked the aestheticit didnt have one
>>25507339board games are the way
Why is using AI for research not considered unethical? You're stealing jobs from all those human Wikipedia editors
>>25511366>you should feel bad for all those neckbeards and government agents peddling propaganda disguised as impartial knowledge!No.>>25511464FPBP
>>25511366Huh? AI just scrubs wikipedia usually
>llmsloppa>researchHello, Ranjeet
>>25511366I wouldn't call it "unethical", but it is unreliable because its prone to making shit up
>>25511366>singularity
Reading all the midwit pop psychology takes on the Bible posted on /lit/ and /his/ have made me realize that the Catholic church was right, and the average person is too retarded to interpret scripture by themselves. Which commentators should I read? I like RC Sproul.
>>25510933My point is that the passage in Matthew explains how he died, while the passage in Acts does not. Your explanation of the Acts passage doesn't make sense because you seem to be implying he *tripped* and fell, but still in order to say that, you would need to say he tripped, because people don't just fall for no reason. Or you could just acknowledge that Acts does not explain how Judas died, because that's clearly not the purpose of the passage.
>>25510938>My point is that the passage in Matthew explains how he died,Except it doesn't because as I said it doesn't really answer to whether he broke his neck and died nearly instantly or he strangled in a long drawn out agonizing way.>while the passage in Acts does not. So falling down while walking through the field and having his intesting burst out wouldn't kill him? It only "does not" because you are making up a bunch of head canon to act like that isn't suppose to be a description of how he died.>you would need to say he tripped,Falling and tripping are the same thing when people say their grand fell in the bath, they mean she tripped.>Or you could just acknowledge that Acts does not explain how Judas diedOf you could explain how falling and bursting open to the point all his intestines fall out wouldn't kill him.Also you still haven't resolved the conflict with the silver either.
>>25510889>>25510919>>25510933>>25510954>reddit spacingLol you can't help yourself, can you?
>>25510666It's really sad what churches have done to pervert Christianity. Christ comes along and gives us literally the perfect blueprint for peace on Earth, but those who don't want to part with their earthly comforts and vices while still wanting to feel righteous decided to creatively "interpret" the text so that they don't need to actually change their lifestyle at all and all that really matters is that you affirm the authority of the church. The Catholic church is most guilty of this, with their torture, warfare, alliance with the state, hierarchies, idol worship, etc.
>>25510666XNITY PRIMERhttp://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1a-9eWjZWH-6uUOcRFJ4hFsgB2vOhdZZf....learn moar discern moar
Are there any other femanons on /lit/? How do you deal with how the world always seems to want us to read modern books to fit in instead of reading literary classics and classic poetry. None of my friends take an interest in the classic book shelf I have on my goodreads account but the second I read a modern YA or romance . When I make recommendations to my literary circle, 90 % of discussion goes to modern books except the rest when the only response is that I had to read that in high school and I tend to just skim that, when the language is a lot more colorful than modern books. It helps me to listen to audiobooks when I'm doing other things like laundry or cooking. I blame school for ruining the appeal of classic literature.
>>25505476>Men have to fight tooth and nail to get laidLiterally all you have to do is be taller than her and smell and dress nice.
>read modern books to fit inWhat? I read books to enjoy them. If I did like to read classics, I'd read them. I just don't and my past hatred of having to read them for school stimmed exactly from that. I didn't read for a very long time because of this hatred.That isn't to say there are some classics I do like such as To Kill a Mockingbird, 1984, Flowers for Algernon, and Lord of the Flies. But I just actually do not enjoy most of them. Esp Moby Dick. Oh my god Moby Dick is one of the most boring, overrated books of all time. My 11th grade teacher made us read it, and I struggled the most to get through it. I honestly think this was the time that I started to resent reading. >moids seething ITTCope. Go have your autistic meltdown and punch your holes in the wall, manchild.
^ You're not a woman
>>25511747Are these seething moids in the room with us now, Lilith?>My 11th grade teacher made us read it, and I struggled the most to get through it. I honestly think this was the time that I started to resent reading.I don't have a pepe reaction image suitable for this.
>ITT: men LARPING
I hate how this guy writes. every sentence is like>The listless bird weaved in and out through the waning door, reverberating with a compelling swoop and a dash of light in its eyes as the sunshine covered its body in a triumphant and sorrowful glow.It works in heart of darkness because of the setting but I'm reading his other tales and it's the same crap over and over again. How can you write so much fluff without saying anything? It's like what a kid in AP English would write if he was trying to make a book
>>25507565I agree, Heart of Darkness is enough. I also read Lord Jim and it was very much more than enough.
>>25510470wrong
>>25507565Conrad is good, but I have to say I sympathize with you.I don't find him an easy read at all. He himself said he found it very hard to write in English (as opposed to French in particular) because all the words had so many connotations it was really hard to pin them down to the meaning he wanted. And that's exactly the impression I get. He's not in partnership with the language; he's desperately struggling with it, trying to get it in an arm-lock and make it say what he wants. It feels like someone trying to pull a pig through a hedge backwards.>listless bird, etcAbsolutely this. He has to attach an adjective to every single noun and an adverb to every single verb. "Curse this language, none of the words mean what I want, I have to modify every single one of them!"Look at the opening of NOSTROMO for instance:~In the time of Spanish rule, and for many years afterwards, the town of Sulaco—the luxuriant beauty of the orange gardens bears witness to its antiquity—had never been commercially anything more important than a coasting port with a fairly large local trade in ox-hides and indigo. The clumsy deep-sea galleons of the conquerors that, needing a brisk gale to move at all, would lie becalmed, where your modern ship built on clipper lines forges ahead by the mere flapping of her sails, had been barred out of Sulaco by the prevailing calms of its vast gulf. Some harbours of the earth are made difficult of access by the treachery of sunken rocks and the tempests of their shores. Sulaco had found an inviolable sanctuary from the temptations of a trading world in the solemn hush of the deep Golfo Placido as if within an enormous semi-circular and unroofed temple open to the ocean, with its walls of lofty mountains hung with the mourning draperies of cloud.On one side of this broad curve in the straight seaboard of the Republic of Costaguana, the last spur of the coast range forms an insignificant cape whose name is Punta Mala. From the middle of the gulf the point of the land itself is not visible at all; but the shoulder of a steep hill at the back can be made out faintly like a shadow on the sky.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
He sure uses a lot of n-words for a polish...
>>25511583around poles, never relax
Anyone know the title?(I surely misremembered some stuff or taken it from another book)>Book opens with terrorist attack (?) on the US president driving, i think the scene takes place on a cliffside?>Main character is a teen, talented kickboxer, dirtpoor>Contacted by some agency to be enrolled into a program for people (talented youngsters?) that will be the president's/his family's new bodyguards (?)>the agency will provide for his grandma and mother>The protagonist is tasked with keeping an eye on the president's daughter>she's a le free spirit or something. (I think there's a scene where she runs off to get ice cream?)>Something something they get kidnapped (by terrorists) and put in a basement together>the terrorists demand they record videos, typical ransom stuff i guess>the protag takes care of the girl as much as he can, gives her his food etcThen honestly i have no idea. I totally forgot, or maybe i stopped reading.
picrel this is what gemini said based on your description. don't know if this is the book you were thinking of: Bodyguard: HostageI tried asking AI about this one book I read as a kid ~2006-7, but it never got it right. >protag goes to a bank>bank gets held up>becomes a hostage>main antagonist begins talking to protag and likes him>antagonist just starts talking about random things>tells him that black people are just white people in black person costumes because of how black people have white handsdon't even remember how the book ended, but i'll never forget the black people thing
>>25510200>forgot the image
>>25510080Dawwwwww cuteee
a single fucking google search tells you its the bodyguard seriesalex rider was better anyway, get off this shit and hop on peak
>>25511705>alex rider was better anywayAnd you know what was better than Alex Rider? CHERUB.
