What are the best Illiad and Odyssey translations?
>>24994070Ancient greek is very different from Koine or modern Greek, no?
Id want to get one with footnotes to give tidbits I may miss out on
>>24993593I read Fitzgerald and loved it. If I were to reread it, I'd go for Pope, Lattimore or Merrill, they sound the best to me when comparing translations.
I got a Gredos translation, which is supposed to be the best among Spanish translations, yet I still don't know what's going most of the time even though I read each 3 times already
>>24994070>As if you are in any way fit to judge what translations are "true to the original."Nobody is even trying to do that, retard.
Anyone read? Impressions?
>Like every other young man inclined towards Right-wing politics, in my late teens and early 20s, I fell under the spell of Friedrich Nietzsche. In particular, his Thus Spoke Zarathustra, published between 1883 and 1885, became something of a guide to life for me. A work of historical philosophy, the book follows the prophet Zarathustra as he descends from solitude to teach humanity about the Übermensch — the “Overman” who is supposed to transcend the merely human — delivering parables while confronting disciples, doubters, and his own evolving insights. Zarathustra is a stand-in for the author, and the reader is likewise drawn in.>While young reactionaries today look back at a simpler time, in which supposedly all normal people had a community, a partner, and a secure job, Nietzsche was already living a lonely, sexually frustrated existence in 19th-century Germany. He might have had sex once at a brothel — where he may or may not have contracted syphilis — but otherwise he either was rebuffed by women or kept them at a distance. The man who effusively praised conquerors like Napoleon and Alexander, and expressed contempt for Christian morality, was constantly sick, felt overwhelmed by social gatherings, and had trouble tolerating bright lights and loud noises. https://unherd.com/2026/01/how-i-outgrew-nietzsche/
Praising Napoleon and Alexander in Nietzsche's time was about as controversial as praising Abraham Lincoln and MLK Jr is in ours
>>24989507Nietzsche is a dog whistle for BAP. That philistine autist doesn't give a fuck about philosophy.
>>24994041sub zero iq
>>24989507This nigga looks like a replicant when he tries to smile
>>24989507he looks like he is trying to suicide via milk drinking as a lactose intolerant.
Today’s pickups. Thoughts?
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>>24994093Reddit
I’ve been a diehard fantasy fan all my life, but I am so constantly frustrated by series like WoT and Night Angel that simplify women or use them to make men look cooler. I wrote these a while ago and thought I’d share. Would love additions!Do your female characters have inner struggles/ identity journeys or emotional developments that have nothing to do with motherhood or romantic love?Are your female characters as complex as their male counterparts?One in four women has been raped. The rape scene you’re thinking about including could very well alienate, traumatize, or lose you the loyalty of a big chunk of your potential audience. Knowing this, do you still think it is essential to the plot? Are you using it to create a meaningful motivation and essential piece of the story, or are you just trying to create a general aura of evilness for this (rapist) character or this world? Could something else work instead?Are your any female characters single dimensionally morally pure or single-dimensionally seductive sex pots? Do you have madonnas and whores?If we know your character’s breast size, do we also know what her face looks like and at least three facets of her personality?If your (male) hero has a love interest or, especially, TWO, have we as readers seen enough evidence to justify that love? Have we seen growing intellectual connection, mutual respect, etc . , or is this just adoration from afar? Are you using female characters as foils to make your male characters look cool?Have you considered drawing from aspects of real women you know—like capturing your mom’s propensity for taking new neighbors under her wing or your friend’s struggles feeling comfortable working in a male-dominated field?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
If a book has female characters I instantly drop it.
>>24993567decent bait5/10
>>24993532Evrybody's always concerned with what the men are doing, but never question anything the women do. Male author writes a poor depiction of a woman? Misogynist incel chud. Female writes a poor depiction of a man? She's just drawing from real-world experiences with shitty men, and the average man is hardly an example of manhood, and this is really the patriarchy's fault.
>>24993987The only example where women consistently suck at writing realistic men is the Romance genre, and too few men read it to bother complaining
>>24994238Name one man written by a woman or redditor in any genre. Women and redditors can't relate to men, they have no clue what motivates actual men with masculine tendencies beyond muh dick.
/r/ecommend me some samuraicore or ninjacore fiction.Already read pic related and Shogun.
Anime and mangas is probably honestly the best way to go here. Samurai culture was more or less unironically warrior-poet in nature so Japanese poems and stuff like Kokoro probably works too
Musashi
Zoomer hereHow do I read books? I have issues sitting still and focusing for enough time to actually get it done. Throughout school I was only given passages and small excerpts. Not once in HS was I required to read an entire book. College kicked my ass first semester and I need to figure this shit out.
>>24993892It's completely possible. What you have to do is reduce screen time and increase time sittting, thinking, meditating, reading. IT can start gradual like 15 minutes and you can work your way up to like an hour or more. You will end up losing it if you get too screened out again but our brains are malleable.
>>24993892unc ahh question nigga think he at miller grove bruh
Unironically, read out loud. It forces you to engage with what is actually being read so your brain doesn't try to skim past stuff you think is boring. It's also good in the long run because it trains your brain to actually remember and retain what you have read.If you live with people who will think you are schizo for doing this, just mouth the words.
>>24993892Identify a subject of genuine interest to you, use search engines to identify seminal books on the subject, and keep a schedule of a set minimum amount of pages per day. I would recommend reading before bed, because anybody can do that, but maybe also in the mornings if you're able
>>24993892Take your fatass outside and get some exercise until you can barely move. Then you won't have that problem.Also, 10 mg of creatine a day can help with concentration problems.
Damn, it really does BTFO almost every modern ideology and theory of happiness. Thanks for recommending this Anon. I admit my error. I was into might makes right, BAP, PUA shit, status, wealth, lifts, etc. (much of which is not bad in itself, but neither the source of happiness either) out of error.From now on I will seek virtue. Reflecting on it, a lot of key Manosphere guys and other celebs I looked up to actually seem quite miserable, so Boethius seems spot on here.Where do I go next? Someone recommended Saint Augustine On the Free Choice of the Will, and Boethius seems to like Plato? Plato has like 50 books though.
>>24992392You're trying too hard to be retarded
>>24992392Excellence.If you cannot tell the difference between cowardice and courage, prudence and rashness, between a Tom Brady and some garbage third string, strength and weakness, greatness of soul and pettiness, I don't know what to tell you. If you cannot tell the difference between these things you likely lack all virtue.
>>24992499It's pretty common. There aren't a lot of people who are competently trained in the classical tradition and the secular academy tends to shun those who gravitate towards it. This shows up in literature too where readings of Virgil and Homer vary WILDLY from those of antiquity. You can see this in literature too. Takes like "Francesca and Paulo are conquering Hell with humanist love" are only possible when one is either ignorant of the tradition Dante comes out of of is consciously undermining it in bad faith. I'd argue that we long have shifted from the former to the latter, that now ignorance reigns and transgression is celebrated for its own sake with no knowledge of what was discarded in the rush to "freedom means discarding all morality and culture so you can do whatever you will!"
>>24993345>>24993345I intentionally took a teasing stance to spark replies. I do have my own definition:Virtue is a quality that denotes a cooperation of emotions, senses, inclinations and appetites with reason, knowledge, philosophy in order to promote the self. The reason is so that the self, the ego, the will (it's all the same) and keeping control, keeping choice within your life is what virtues are aimed at. Strength, courage, taste, creativity, independence all have in common that they rhyme with self-promotion and cowardice, or recklessness, weakness, dullness, begging rhyme with suicide; if you do not make that connection you are still lost. The problem when people say they live for virtue, for happiness, is that they have said nothing and are still susceptible to be manipulated by others who tell them that self-sacrifice is a virtue, that self-negation will lead to happiness. I just typed "list of virtues" in Google and oh my god a good over-half of them are traps or just nonsense
>>24994213>>The reason is so that the self, the ego, the will (it's all the same) and keeping control, keeping choice within your life is what virtues are aimed atNot to the ancients and medievals. Read the fucking Consolation, it's short and lays everything out clearly.
So? What did we think of it?
>>24986593*sniffles* zis use of ze vörd kvantum iz *sniffles* a sign of complete woo-woo, it holds no pleis in the social sciences and is only to be understood in fysiks *sniffles*
Sometimes I have dreams of an alternate /lit/ where people who have actually read the book come into the thread and discuss the contents of the book.
>>24993230What an alien realm.
>>24986593Its ok. Kind of what youd expect from late Z>>24987130Sokal fingered my ass in public once I was 13 at the time lol
this guy's books are abysmal
In most cases, reading is a superior experience to an audiobook but some audiobooks are just well performedMy picksHeart of Darkness, read by Kenneth Brannaugh. Honestly his best work. Only drawback is his censoring the word nigger. And I know audible didn't do so because Frodo uses the word in his reading of Huckleberry FinnMaggie Gyllenhaal's reading of Anna Karenina. Actually can't complain about anything, she just does a really good job as both reader and actress here, she even does a good job acting the male dialogue Thandawie Newton's reading of War and Peace. The only flaw is she does a terrible job with Napoleon. But other than that she does a 10/10 reading and actingHonor Levy reads My First Book. Just because she does a good impersonation of autism. Or maybe she actually is autistic. I think I would miss a lot of her puns if I didn't hear her read it. Obviously a bit of a meme who depends on chosen people promotion so don't take this as a recommendation of her work, I just think how she reads it suits itMichel Piccoli and several others read L'intégrale de l'œuvre poétique of Boudelaire. French is not a language which uses stress very much communicate but the readers here all nonetheless ooze emotion, pain, lust, relish, grief and intoxication, all while showing diligence with the form of the poems The Metamorphoses, read by Bahni Turpin. Her delivery is nice and balanced and soft and she manages to convey the pain of various characters well, including the agonizing sexual frustration of the numerous rapists or attempted rapists in the work.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24993484Audio book bay is the best source.
>>24993697ABB is fine. There are way better offers on private trackers.
>>24992879>Only drawback is his censoring the word nigger.Extremely gay. What does he say instead?
>>24993964I can't recall a single audio book that actually existed that I couldn't find on abb>>24993968African American.
>>24993990>>I can't recall a single audio book that actually existed that I couldn't find on abbThe quality is usually shit. 128kb Audible rips are plentiful in private trackers.
I've never personally found any argument against suicide that really convinces me. The more philosophy I read, the more many common objections seem based on instinct or emotion rather than careful reasoning. When people call suicide "murder" or "unnatural" they often ignore that a right to life should also include the right to give it up, and that nature itself isn't a moral authority. If it were, we wouldn't use medicine to prevent or delay natural deaths. The claim that suicide is selfish also feels very one-sided. It can just as easily be seen as selfish to expect someone to keep living with unbearable mental or physical suffering simply so others don't have to feel grief. None of us chose to be born, and being stuck in a life that has become intolerable is a tragedy, not a moral failure. I think society has a strong optimism bias that makes people assume life is better than it really is for everyone. When someone experiences life mainly as a heavy burden, ending their life can be a rational way to take back control over something they never chose.
>>24993091>Why haven't you killed yourself yet? Whatever the answer is, there's your argument against suicide.What if OP is already dead?
>>24984260How do we even know that for sure? How do we know sperm aren't conscious?
>>24983868Thanks.
>>24982149I don't respect people that don't make sense.
>>24993219No nervous system
Do modal statements about necessity express essential properties of the entities they name or are they merely descriptions of properties entities logically possess under a specific context?
modal logic is an unnecessary hack, it doesn't solve anything that second order logic can't already express, especially when we are talking about universals we can't directly observe, it gives you expressive power with non of the guarantees that your statement are meaningful
Philosophy is what happens when people become extremely afraid of death. It's cute, in a way.
>>24992892>For example, it is the aim of the analytic philosopher to discover the true ethics. Imagine having an objectively verifiable ethics using logic!Good luck, they gave up on that shit decades ago.
>>24993605Yeah sorry but continental philosophy is pretentious and for literal wordcels who couldn't do math so they think writing an essay on magic crystals or some shit makes them smart. Literally Continental Philosophers:>The simulacrum of hyperreality is the semiotic signification of a Marxist metanarrative, which, when coupled with the Phallagocentrism of Freud and Hegel, reveals the binaries of trace and deconstruction inherent in the power dominated vacuum of capitalist run societies and the benefits of lesbian dance theory.>WOOOOOAAAHHH SO DEEEP!>SO YOU MEAN TO SAY, LIKE, I EXIST, BRO? >SO YOU MEAN TO SAY, LIKE, *(puff on a joint)* THAT EXISTENCE IS LIKE MEANINGLESS AND STUFF BRO!?>WOAAAAHHHHHH SO DEEP >BRO BRO BRO DID YOU KNOW THAT, LIKE, SISYPHUS, YEAH *THAT* SISYPHUS, HAS TO, LIKE, PUSH A ROCK UPHILL FOREVER!?>WOOOOAAAHHHHH DEEEEEEEP
>>24990368Hiroshimoot needs to put in a filter that blocks AI generated text to prevent shit like this
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>24993261Poets pretending to be above ego should be shot.
>>24950975it sucks when you meet a new reader and they read anything BUT poetry, why does it filter so many? it was the main form of literature for centuries, even short stories have more readers i feel
>>24952018>>24961722i think anthologies of poetry are the best way to start, the oxford poetry anthology is good, there's also many by bloom and tehy often ease you in into the poet so you get a sense of the poetry scene through time
>>24993958why should it have more readers? poetry is written for poets. novels are written for the general public.
>>24993969Seconding an anthology. From there you should identify a poet or theme you found you liked and check out more related work
As we live, we are transmitters of life.And when we fail to transmit life, life fails to flow through us.That is part of the mystery of sex, it is a flow onwards. Sexless people transmit nothing.And if, as we work, we can transmit life into our work,life, still more life, rushes into us to compensate, to be readyand we ripple with life through the days.Even if it is a woman making an apply dumpling, or a man a stool,if life goes into the pudding, good is the puddinggood is the stool,content is the woman, with fresh life rippling in to her,content is the man.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
It's been my dream to be a writerI've written like 20 novels and I can't get a single person to read my shit, I've been indie published, put my shit up for free, I've won contestsnot a dime made,fuck, I don't even care about money anymore I just want some comments, just some fucking validation, fuckI LOVE writing, when I sit down and pound out the pages I feel wholebut no one will even look at my shit!I've tried writing to the audience, I've tried to make my stuff as marketable as possiblebut even if I give it away for free I get a dozen views and no feed back Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24993371Thanks, Maiden Voyage was just a short thrown together for a contest with a prompt for RRI absolutely SUCK at covers, I'm not an artist, like how TF are these other writers getting these amazing covers if they're putting stuff up for free on RR like I am?
it doesnt seem like the worst writing ever but it doesnt really seem worth reading either
in agreement w the othersread more, write less, make art friends
>>24991309>I've written like 20 novels and I can't get a single person to read my shitYour professional network sucks. You need to meet people in the industry who can connect you with those with actual power.
