Do you read novels in english or would you rather read a translation even though you can read in english? Sometimes old novels can have a ton of very unusual and outdated words, I’ve been pondering if I should read Little Dorrit in the original or just get a translation.
I'm FSL and I'd find it shameful to read an English translation of a French bookI understand our situations are different, but when it comes to French books it's either French or I'm not reading itNow in terms of translations I'm not at the level where I can justify reading something translated into French except when there isn't an English translation available
I read mainly English books because my country doesn't have that many books translated
>>23629167Which country?
>>23624057I know three languages around the same level, and I read novels in those languages I'm their original form. Everything else I read in English. If you live in the West, English language is one of the most valuable skills you can learn, so practice it well and often
I only read books in my language
Hey /lit/izens.This is my script that I'm currently trying to get greenlit.https://wormhole.app/1xb4q#e9Z94h0_F4nWqSXtxF8MHgPull it apart. I'm kind of going for gritty, realistic Hemingway style dialogue. I need your help. All feedback is appreciated. This project isn't going to write itself.Updates since last time: I sent an email to Jamie Krents who is the GM of Diana Krall's record label and am waiting on a tentative contract from Disney that should be signed sometime next week. They've agreed to fast track production. It'll be filmed on set in Burbank and is slated for release on Labor Day.
>>23628434INT. ERIN AND DANIEL'S BEDROOM - NIGHTErin is sleeping.Daniel wakes up and turns to look at clock. It is 3:16.Daniel walks quietly past kitchen night light, down dimly lit hall toward home office.Daniel turns on computer, opens and begins to update resume.Instant message dialog box pops up. Sender's name is 'G' Message from G says, 'how r u Daniel?'Daniel types in, 'do i know u?'G replies, 'it's a blast from your past'Suddenly, pop-up ad appears. It is offering free 21" flat panel monitor, in exchange for completing survey.Daniel closes ad, but it pops up again. Daniel closes ad again.G types, 'what r u doing up so late?'Monitor ad pops up again. As Daniel closes ad, the computer monitor begins to flicker.75.G types, 'go get some rest'Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23628484without context, it's pretty boring
>>23628513that's why you need to read the whole thing. like the Bible it seems boring but it's full of hidden meaning
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>>23629276>like the Bible it seems boringstop reading the prophets and Paul's shitty letters
I've had Christie suggested to me several times, but I struggle to understand the appeal. Is she talented in terms of writing or just detective fiction?
>>23628836Just detective fiction She came up with a few innovations in the locked room mystery. She also got trapped by her own success and became formulaic and sloppy toward the end. Though she did get it together enough to give Poirot a nice send off with Curtain
Sneed.
How do parts of substances factor into Aristotle's metaphysics? e.g. the body or mind of a human being? How would he interpret them? I was reading an explanation of the four antepraedicamenta in Aristotle's Categories, and I noticed something strange:>Present-in a subject BUT NOT said of a subject: accidents (full stop)>Present-in a subject AND said of a subject: two subjects in one. >e.g. David knows law (David's mind knows law).>e.g. David is alive (David's body is alive). So, the present-in part is simple enough. Knowing law, alive, etc., describe their respective subjects. But the said of part is more difficult. What is going on here? Is said of referring to the fact that minds, bodies, etc., are part of the essence of a person? But we generally don't see a definition speak of mind, body, etc., even if it might be an implication of the fact that humans are rational animals, that animals are living creatures and thus animated bodies, etc. I also wonder if this is how Aristotle deals with part-whole relationships that involve things that could be characterized as substances. Or is the "said of" element attempting to describe something about what body, minds, etc., are when they are most themselves (like energeia)? e.g. a living body is most itself when it is alive (and not when it is dead), a mind is most itself when it is actively thinking and grasping the object of its thought, etc.
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>>23620256>>23620282Are you a Bruell fan? Also, are you conflating qualities and forms?
>>23626989I guess he never answered in that other thread, huh?
>>23620606>Aristotle points out that it's not clear whether subject or form fills the role of substancehe says there what comes to be is a 'this'. if the subject is bookman the substance is the whole within the whole, aka whether bookman is refers to the man or refers to the book or the man is the book.
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Just finished. What did I think of this?
>>23626592I'm way more racist and incelish and buggish. I'm not even brave enough to passive aggressively annoy people with bureaucracy. I'm terrified of any confrontation. In fact I don't even have a job and don't know if I ever will have one again. I might kill myself if a woman suggests she's in love with me. There's something deeply Lynchian about it. I'm even scared to pour my rotten soul in writing I'll never publish because I'll materialize my mediocrity and be the only terrible witness to it. Writing a whole book like the underground man and even addressing the reader is chad behavior.
>>23629691>I'm way more racist and incelish and buggishAh okay. Yeah you don't deserve love or intimacy either then
>>23629702true true
>>23629702He's just like me frfr
>>23626371Not literature
Do we all agree that this was the peak of literature?
>>23628460Eliot wasn't even the best female author of 19th century Britain, let alone first-rate.
>>23628030>it takes a russian to properly roast another russian
>>23626087First of all while Russia is though of as having poor education system, there's a little bit if a lie in there. Russian education system was poor if you were the 80% of the population(most likely there would be no system for you). The gymnasiums meanwhile were very high quality and the universities weren't bad either. As such a Russian coming from relative elite would be very well educated and capable.Additional part is that they were under intensive influence of what was called the slavophile movement which in terms of art promoted creating a sort of Russian-development of it, rather than sticking to universal classical norms. This didn't mean they went back to folk forms and tried to go up from there. No it mean that they looked at the folk forms, looked at the western classical forms and tried to make something completely new with it. It's much harder to notice when it comes to literature but it can't be unheard in music.
>>23628522Obviously she's not as good as Austen, but neither are any of the Russians.
Kuprin keeps getting left out of these Golden Age compilations because he described his self-insert fucking a Jewish preteen but being a race fetishist nonce aside he was a pretty good writer
>now is not the time for art Is he right?
>>23629159One of the beautiful things about art is that it actually doesn’t even need to be creative. This impulse for art that is by nature novel is a uniquely Western phenomenon. If art truly speaks to something bigger than the individual, and Spengler agrees that it does, then creativity is not even essential. It merely has to capture a glimpse of the thing for which it is a simulacra.
Spengler was too miserable to appreciate art.
I feel like dropping my 'smartphone' into the mud.
>>23629786Are you not miserable?
the faggots who cling to art are unable to stand the ugliness of the world and the world is fucking ugly
Is this supposed to be extremely cringe to read? The protagonist sounds like a blue pilled incel who browses reddit, which is impressive given how long ago it was written but doesn't really make for compelling reading
>>23627965>>23629306Watch the Robert Bresson adaptation too, or even instead.
>>23627517interesting point
>There is a completely free 1960 adaptation on youtubeIs it worth watching?
>>23627468The introduction of the book I had read that the guy was actually ironic and spiteful towards the woman, and she replied with the same subtlety
>>23629587does the text support that somehow though? it all sounds very earnest to me
Welp, this aged poorly.
>>23630055Gee i wonder why it didnt work, i mean when you look at the characters of this group surely these kinds of ''people'' should pull it off.
>>23630055It would be better served in the hands of reactionaries like me honestly
I've read The Art of Seduction, Models, and The Rational Male and I still haven't lost my virginity. Now what?
>>23628454LOL
>>23628454Marinetti, Come si seducono le donne
now it's time to read the masters
>>23628454You made a grave mistake and forgot to read Weininger’s Sex and Character.
Read Tolkien. Realize the world is out there and not in books. Getting laid is as simple and as getting to know women. Really. If you’re able to easily become friends with and get to know women, you’re getting laid. If you’re not getting laid, you also have a hard time befriending and getting to know women. Draw from that the obvious.
Did you get your copy?
>>23629782>reality is a psychoreactive hologram with hyperspace and multiple timelinesPeople really pretend this means anything at all
>>23629859Lots of historical accounts refer to otherworldly beings, but in different, often religious (as it still is this day), terms.Remember that aliens are not just extraterrestrial but also extradimensional.
>>23629967and possibly extrarealitarian
>>23629918does he make balloons like mick west?
>>23629918Its funny that his acolytes harp on Elizondo & co. for being "grifters" because hes clearly jealous they got more media attention and things happening than his own Disclosure Press Briefing years ago
Went on the /lit/ top 100 and randomly chose this. That’s all I wanted to say. I love when the characters happen to be nearly my age and the existential crises of the characters is relatable
>>23628495This became my favorite book ever by the time I started The Criminals and then it just got better and better until the very end, posthumous and all.It's unbelievable.I bought Torless recently and I'm really excited about it as well.
>>23628495>Went on the /lit/ top 100Just went to it. It's a terrible list. Obv the books are good to read but its terrible. That such a list is even made makes it clear that /lit/ is by pseuds, for pseuds, of pseuds, it's just pseuds calling each other pseuds. Everyone here--besides me, and a few others--is a pseud
>>23629065I'm really fond of the incest vibe but it was not worth it to get through the frist two volumes only to see it unfulfilled
>>23629287>few othersthis includes me btw
I got halfway through Torless but i dropped it because it didn't click, i even found it a bit boring. ist it worth it to pick it up again?
The Truth is that there is no Truth. Wow thank you "based" Baudrillard Nick Land etc etc.
>>23629497I worked my way thru a Wilber book which was gifted me a while back. Was enriching. Lost it when moved though. Didn't hear of Gebser till of recent thru Aaron Cheak, funky fresh contemporary alchemist man. Check his articles online if you wish. Gebser is fantastic. I also like Aurobindo. Life Divine was life-changing. Haven't read the other authors you mention. But bless indeed sir.
>>23620651It's more like it's fucking boring to paint the same landscape in realistic style after centuries of doing it, at that point just take a photo. Those who can only appreciate art if it's "life-like" are total brainlets and that's not what Baudrillard meant
>>23629525>just take photosSometimes you may wish to paint something that you cannot model without special effects or practical effects which is also art>muh baudy was good lefty and would never diss my pomo artActually, the move away from representation in art and signs in general is precisely among main part and parcel of his argument
Do I need to read this before tackling Simulacra and Simulation? I started S&S and it's incomprehensible to me.
>>23618665literally just watch the matrix you brainlet, there is no spoon
Holy Bible, KJV, Ruckman Reference Bible, paperback
>>23628132>list of slurs in the footnotesBased if not for the dispensationalism.
>>23628132>Holy Bible, KJV, Ruckman Reference BibleMega based
Just a manual about how to apolpgize for being human.Fuck Christianity.
>>23629886Go back to your Marxist/Hitler/socialist threads and tranny discords, loser atheist.You will never have your utopia.
im a satanist and i hate god and want to destroy the kingdom of heaven and the christian religion. i already burn bibles and say FUCK GOD every second
>my favorite book of all time is Consider the Lobster and Other Essays by David Foster WallaceWhat type of person do you imagine?
a whore a bourgeois
>>23627357Can you repeat the question?
>>23628270Where have you heard that? His nonfiction is just about as good as his fiction. Most of his nonfiction is definitely towards the funnier side, but is still insightful. But his "serious" nonfiction is some of the most astute shit on the planet earth.For an essay, check out "E Unibus Pluram".For a nonfiction piece he gave as a speech, check out "Laughing with Kafka".The former is a longer read, the latter will only take a couple of minutes to read, or about 10 minutes to listen to his actual speech.
A lobster trying to pass as a human nice try!!!
>>23627310Mainstream libtard pseud probablyThis is how this essay was conceived in DFW's mind: "Hmm... I've been requested to write an article for a FOOD magazine... FOOD magazines are about CONSUMPTION of food... well what if I told people that in order to CONSUME animals, we must harm them?" and then he just threw in a bunch of overexamined details about how Fat and American the whole thing was to make it "observant" or "funny". The essays are exceptionally overrated and not close to his best writing. Another terrible but lauded piece is his cruise ship essay. Believe it or not, when David Foster Wallace isn't writing about consoomerland (his entire schtick basically copied from DeLillo's white noise, a novel that aged like milk and was not even original when it was published), he can actually write some strong introspective tract. I'd only respect someone saying a Wallace book is their favorite if they picked "Oblivion". Nowhere else is there good writing. His mind matured there.
