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>...and Gibraltar as a girl where I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes.
everyone is just pretending to like this book, right?
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>>25301540
>a year for two weekend books
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>>25303451
>sitting at home reading during the weekends
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>>25299047
Yeah you definitely convinced me that I do want to read this because I really like way he plays with language even though I don't have the stamina or grit to get through Finnegan's Wake which I indeed got filtered by. (I know it was retarded to start with this but in my defense I didn't look into just how difficult and inventive it was until after I bought it, I was just drawn to the description of it I read on wikipedia lmao).
I'm still retarded enough to start reading Ulysses from a public domain electronic version online because I really don't feel like driving to a bookstore that probably won't even have it in stock or ordering it right now.
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>>25300326
What are the best translations of the Iliad/Odyssey in your opinion? I think I started with Lattimore the other day and my head was already hurting after a few pages, though I was admittedly pretty tired. Should I just read a synopsis first and try again? I know I'm going to need to look a lot shit up/consult some supplementary material to have it explained to me at times, but maybe there is a better translation for midwits like me?

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Alyosha <3
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>>25302065
>turns them all into girls
>fem!Alyosha becomes the de facto Queen of /lit/
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>>25303589
Forgot the DAMN picture
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>>25301245
>>25302065
>>25303478
>>25303589
>>25303593
Why are y'all so gay?
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>>25303636
Slavs are trannies.

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In practice my writing with gpt.
He gives me a prompt every night and I write a something short about it (like 2 or 3 pages). He then gives me feedback.
I write about gangsters, detectives and cowboys. Im very talented.
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>>25303579
>In practice my writing with gpt.
Thats a bad start, I meant to say I practice my writing with gpt
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>>25303582
sounds about on par when you start writing with any LLM.
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>>25303579
>Im very talented.
That is very cool

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The reason the zombe apocalypse exists at all! What do we think of it?
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>>25302877
Even worse, sunlight isn't instantly lethal to them and they can get pissed off enough to not care if they sizzle.
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Wish more books took a scientific approach to myths
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>>25302950
Wolfen did the same with werewolves and Eaters Of The Dead with Beowulf.
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It soothes my paranoid schizo feelings. Yes, this is exactly how things do be.
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>>That bit where it points out that he can't look outside at night because all the vampire bitches will resort to doing all sorts of perverse shit just in an attempt to entice him outside
>And he really has to fight the urge to go outside and fuck a vampire bitch
lmao, good read.

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Since it was paywalled in the last thread. I will be posting more. If you have a request for a particular article that is paywalled, let me know
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>>25301339
you should check out Jacobin's instagram account sometime. Half the comments are people just bitching that Jacobin is "right wing."
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>>25298662
>>25298870
I read the whole thing and it didn't mention right wing xitter once? Redpill me on this.
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>>25303371
Why the fuck would I do that and why the fuck would I care about the wokeoid vs tankie larper intertroon dispute?
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>>25302006
Ah yes, of course. They're children all their lives.
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>>25302018
So how is this different from the "new Soviet man?"

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So-called ‘unfilmable books’ simply don’t have the proper story structure conducive to an interesting movie, the popular aura around a book being ‘too violent’ or ‘too complex’ or saying the niggerword too much is just misguided and dumb.

Basedtuber Video-Essay Meridian (Or the Evening Redditness in the West) is probably just the most notable example. The first two pages alone would require at least 45 minutes of screen time for what amounts to really boring character exposition for The Kid in a visual format. The book doesn’t give a good motive or reason for his actions other than ‘he just felt like killing’ because it doesn’t have to, a script would have to shoehorn something entirely novel and likely summarize it as a whole.

There’s a few scenes that could possibly translate well to film (Judge’s introduction with the preacher, Captain White’s excursion, any of the big battles, Judge’s speeches, the ending) but 2/3’s of the book is just the gang putzing through random landmarks and surviving in the desert for no real operative purpose, interrupted with some scalp hunting. Members also just die anticlimactically to little drama or fanfare, which makes sense in the book but wouldn’t translate to screen (with the ferry massacre as a possible exception).

Cramming everything into a <150min film and somehow incorporating a through-line plot that doesn’t butcher the book and ties into the actual ending is what the ‘Unfilmable’ aspect is, not the Tarantino-style violence required on screen.

Juxtapose BM with No Country For Old Men and you can easily tell the latter was written with a movie script in mind. McCarthy was a nobody writer when he wrote BM so he likely never would’ve expected (or even wanted) it pitched for a film.

It’s simply that trannygoon and his basedtuber-ilk did irreparable damage to the reputation and aura of an otherwise interesting novel by a pretty good American storyteller.
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Short stories make good movies. Novels require a mini-series. It's as simple as that.
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>>25299906
Blood Meridian isn't that complicated. It would work just fine if it got filmed like a traditional western. I bet Sam Raimi could pull it off.
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I think Gombrowicz is unfilmable in any meaningful way, though I haven't seen Zulawski's Cosmos yet and I'm not sure I want to.
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>>25300425
But it makes a great radio play. Maybe Blood Meridian could be a radio play?
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You can absolutely film "unfilmable books" as long as you change enough shit so it translates to the screen.
That's why people use the word "adaptation" when talking about turning a book into a movie. It's just a transfer from one medium into another of a concept or idea.

Anyone else lose their sanity over being cucked and had to have their twink friend bring it back from the moon?
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>>25301681
did you read boiardo before ariosto?
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>>25301681
>friend
just "friends" tho?
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I skip all the scenes where Rocky isn't around. He's the only reason to read this crap. I love it when aliens are friendly and we get to explore a different kind of consciousness. There should be more novels focused on aliens being bros.
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I thought people here were exaggerating but it really is a terrible very bad book. The reddittisms are the least of its problems. Half of the book takes place doing bullshit on earth, which wouldn't be bad if every character wasn't annoying as shit. Grace cries every time he thinks about the dead crew members but not once we see him develop any relationship with them. The russian's character is
>she likes le vodka
the chinese is
>he's serious
The german boss lady is just a power fantasy.
Why even have an ensemble of characters at this point? Grace is supposed to be this lonely detached guy with nothing to lose but somehow everyone likes him, and he calls them friends for some reason. I also wasn't sold on him being such a coward as to threaten the survival of humanity because he doesn't want to die in 4 years but is perfectly ok with dying in 20 in a far more horrific way. Rocky was a complete useless moron who needed Grace to spoonfeed anything scientific to him and even save his ass at the end lol. Apparently physics envy is something that happens in stem circles and it looks like Weir suffers from it. He just wants to prove he understands REAL science. Why else spend all that time painfully detailing everything about physics but not the software Grace wrote to talk to Rocky? Why would Andy Weir the software engineer do that?
I liked the relativity bit, he could have gone deeper in it. I did some research into what's actually happening in relativistic physics and form the little I understood it's fascinating. It makes sense even though it feels wrong. It could be used to delve deeper into the workings of the universe with some reverence and a sense of awe or bring humanity into perspective by highlighting how doomed any space expedition is due to the fact the austronat will die to the world and it to him even if he makes it back. I suspect Weir doesn't really understand it and just plugged numbers into a calculator. Whenever he brings up relativity he goes "That's relativity for ya weird huh? haha my brain just did an epic science fart".
Not worth a read there's better slop out there
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>skipping scenes just because he just doesn't like it
The consequence of american education.
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>>25303128
I'm not american.
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>>25303332
i am
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>>25303344
Ok.

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>average author bio
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>if only I were a published author, I’d be such a based Chad mogging sigma
>no, I’ll never write anything
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>>25303266
The vast majority of people here could write a better novel than 98% of contemporary published authors. I mean that seriously. It's no secret that the industry has been inundated with milquetoast jobsworths and passive aggressive functionaries.
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>>25303220
She needs a firmware upgrade in the form of “coffee.”
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>>25303266
I hate all of you.
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>>25303294
/wg/ /wng/ and the writing competitions have proven this statement to be false

He lived for 42 years and during that time, it is believed, he never had sexual relations. His female characters are either young and dangerous girls, or old and narrow-minded women.
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>>25294689
Ukrainian
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>>25293149
>, it is believed, he never had sexual relations.
why? because he never announced to the world whenever he went to see a hooker? are you really that retarded?
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>>25294085
Taras Bulba is so fucking good.
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>>25293546
one of the very few people that ever tried to punch me was a girl. its cool, i blocked it. i think we were both impressed, really. shes a cop now.
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>>25302467
This is the opinion of experts. Throughout his life, Gogol had no known romantic or sexual relationships with either women or men.

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This is unreadable.
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>>25301576
I read this as a high school sophomore and while some of it went over my head I still enjoyed it overall. Just add some more skill points in INT, it and Dubliners are by far the easiest to read of Joyce's works.
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>>25303160
My one piece of advice for you is to fully immerse yourself in the mind of a child (for the first chapter at least) and not to be overly concerned with understanding EVERYTHING in a text (picrel, the author of the quote is talking about Finnegans Wake, but the message is universally applicable to any work of literature). Basically, you are an outsider looking into the mind of young Stephen, seeing whatever he is thinking at the moment, no matter what it is, a "stream of consciousness" if you will. Not everything here has to make sense, like not every one of your waking thoughts has to make sense.
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>>25303160
You need to go post this on Reddit. It really is outdated "comedy."
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>>25303290
>wothe botheth
>>25303287
the writing doesnt make me feel like a child, it makes me feel like a retard kicking me out of the stream of consciousness. I genuinely can not place what is happening it is just hopping from place to place
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>>25303296
The first section, which seems most confounding to you, contains Stephen's earliest memories, so of course, it will seem disjointed and kinda schizo, since his brain is literally in the earliest stages of development. And since he's still just a boy, his internal language is not yet developed, so there will be a lot of repeating allegories and blunt statements. A huge part of the enjoyment of Portrait is to see Stephen, along with his use of language, grow over time. And also, read aloud, or just subvocalize if you're not used to that yet, and just let the rhythm of the words carry you to the end. Seriously, don't scrutinize it so much. The first read is always going to be incomplete. You can only grasp a work fully on your second, even third or fourth read.

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Redpill me on this guy, where do I begin with him? My library has a ton of his stuff.
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>>25296213
He means social autism as opposed to actual autism
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What the fuck was his father's problem?
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>>25296057
I would rather read a thousand pages of him musing on poetry than ten about his awful wife
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Do you think his daughters will write their own version shittalking him?
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>>25300213
aren't you reading the wrong books, then?

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Surely no one actually believes this book is anything but a work of fiction written by Joseph Smith, right?
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Bumping to see if I can learn more about the witnesses
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Does anyone here know if there's like an LDS "study Bible" verse-by-verse type resource? I'm curious how they interpret the Bible, in particular the passages that would support traditional (Nicene) Christianity. I don't think the LDS church has any of those types of resources on their website but hopefully someone knows something.
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>>25292509
>Be Jew
>had some Christian read parts of the book with me
>in my head, I was going "That was already in the Old Testament" over and over again.
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>>25301879
Well our standard version of the Bible comes with heavy cross-reference footnotes, and some additional study helps as appendixes. The LDS website edition of the Bible has these footnotes too. If you want to go some steps further you can just read Mormon apologetics research there's a lot of searching of Jewish aggadah, Christian apocrypha, and early Christian Church Fathers, and there's lots of similarities found, some people also notice that modern Christian theological movements like Open Theism and Social Trinitarianism end up recreating the wheel when we did that stuff first, but it's a nice point of theological convergence to see anyway.
>in particular the passages that would support traditional (Nicene) Christianity
I honestly cannot read John 17:11,21-23 and not conclude on the basis of the simplest reasoning that the only two viable options for natural interpretation are either (1) the Father and the Son are consubstantial iff we are capable of the same consubstantiality with them, or (2) whatever oneness the Father and the Son have is weaker than consubstantiality, and we can participate in that same oneness. There's just no natural space for taking the "oneness" of Father and Son with humanity to be piecemeal, to take their unity with us to be non-consubstantial but their own unity to be consubstantial. Nicenes have no good response to this.
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>>25292081
Half the NSA is Mormon.

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Does Japanese translate best into English, German or French? I'm curious about which translations to get.
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huh. that's a good question.
my gut reaction is german, because they both have a lot of "compound" words that mean very specific things, but I don't actually know.
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IIRC it's actually Spanish.
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iirc mishima said the english translations were better than the original. not sure if that has more to do with the english language or quality of translator.

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Best NTR novels?
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i'm not into ntr stuff so idk if this is of interest to a real ntr freak but robin hobb's assassin's apprentice trilogy involves one of the most insane cucks of all time and is a great series

also maybe the floating opera
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>>25299653
>>25300274
Are you a woman? It's hard to imagine it having that effect on a man
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>>25299554
Deep Water by Patricia highsmith, movie is also worth watching after
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Just started this but it’s pretty damn good so far
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>>25300567
It was pretty decent up until that exact point


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