>do you believe in the Bible?>the Bible is a hyperlinked library of wisdom across centuries. It’s not a book you simply “believe in.”>so you don't take it literally?>literalism is a modern distortion. Stories operate on multiple planes of reality.>you're avoiding the question.>i’m challenging its premises.>are you saved?>i think the idea of salvation is psychological, social, and metaphysical.>so you're not saved?>i'm working on aligning myself with the Logos.>is that a yes?>it's a process, not a status.>do you believe in Heaven and Hell?>we live them out psychologically. Every day.>that’s not what the Bible says.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24918732>That's good for them but it's irrelevant.It isn't though. Most people who become religious don't automatically jump into parroting dogma and when Christians converse it doesn't generally involve literalist statements of a specific beliefs. You brought up the virgin birth and pointing out how the immaculate conception isn't binding in Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism underscores differences in modes of veneration (e.g. the Eastern Orthodox Church doesn't venerate Mary as necessarily distant from original sin whereas Catholics have necessity to define her as not only without an inherence of guilt but virginal in that sense throughout her life). Acting like nothing is up for discussion if you don't declare "I believe in the virgin birth" demonstrates the fact Peterson's detractors want to box him in and treat everything he says in prejudice according to a preconceived rote they've played over and over. If you ask someone who takes Christianity seriously and is, perhaps, on the path to belief "are you a Christian" that person describing how they interact with church teachings while expressing how they see the church as it relates to people in general isn't "denying Christ" or "dodging the question." Implying such is a blatant attempt to disingenuously frame a discussion in predefined way favorable to one's set beliefs (i.e. prejudice). Like the other anon said: instead of thinking and discussing what things mean you want to attach a label and all the baggage your prejudice affords it.
>>24924613Anglicans don't have an official dogma relating to the immaculate conception. The pope dogmatized it in the 1800s for Catholics but Anglicans have a different perspective on original sin and this creates a different emphasis.
>>24924654Anglican is a big tent term, even bigger than Eastern Orthodox, we are very much like Islam in that we are decentralized into "houses" of thought some being more liberal, some being more traditional, some being more secular. So saying "All Anglicans believe X" is like saying "All Christians believe Y". We have houses that act like Protestants, some that act like Catholics, some that act like New Wave Christianity. You can't just lump the largest Christian Confederacy in the world into 1 viewpoint.
>>24924170You missed the point, lil guy.
>>24924039>often completely incoherent verbal diarrheasometimes, but it's mostly overt, filterless pathos. It's kinda interesting actually, seeing how the postmodern postironic whateverism had at its core an allergy to expressing such pathos with even the slightest sincerity, with a bemused chuckle accompanying even using such vocab as God or Good and Evil - and JP swung that pendulum back full swing, often losing himself in rambles about those Great Ideas^tm, which I guess in his prime was a refreshing kind of public intellectual.That said, both men and women would be ridiculed, and rightly so, for breaking into tears at the profundity of their own musings on the regular. I don't think it's an act though. I think Peterson has a hypersensitive nervous system that makes him high-strung, emotionally fragile and causes all those psychosomatic ailments he seems to suffer from all the time (apple cider lol).
What would Wagner think of "updated" modern set designs for his classic operas?
Probably the same thing Norsemen would feel about his updating the source material to accommodate romanticist values and aesthetics
Looks cool. I do like me some regietheater sets sometimes.
Looks shit. I do hate me some regietheater sets sometimes.
idk but it looks cool
>>24922852He left exorbitantly detailed notes for how he wanted each of his works staged and performed because of how much he foresaw hating what later directors would do on their own.
no cap ts low-key gave me humiliation fetish (on some chill shit) frNot in a typical sense but I want to achieve godhood for a second only to be totally annihilated in the most humiliating way possible. Icarus burning in the sun is the fantasy not the consequence. Living with success sounds terrible and unearned for an insect like me.Any niggas feel the same way?
>>24921711>>24922448You're also missing* I should say, just go read more from him than what I assume must have only been Crime and Punishment
cool it unc
>>24921667what's ur twitter handle
You sound like an extraordinarily strange specimen and, to my chagrin, that is actually kind of interesting.
>>24921662type shi
>That Logic has advanced in this sure course, even from the earliest times, is apparent from the fact that, since Aristotle, it has been unable to advance a step and, thus, to all appearance has reached its completion.
Kant and Aristotle are kin because of common enemies. Both try to find a middle ground between schizo-retardo rationalism and fedora empiricism. In Hegel they become one. But Kant barely read Aristotle, that’s what makes the development so interesting, the convergence of these two perfectly independent projects. Kant’s transcendental apperception comes together with Aristotle’s agent intellect in Hegel, Fichte serves as a bridge or even an end with his I=I, apperception as telos.
mathematicians gigaiqempiricists midwits
>>24923937All that quote shows is an incredible ignorance on the part of kant. The Hellenistic period saw a lot of developments, Aristotle was not even regarded as a top logician at that time.
>>24924007Yes, and of the Middle Ages, also what Kant takes as Aristotle’s logic is just trash he picked up in manuals. There are no individuals in Aristotle’s, no problematic or disjunctive syllogisms, no assertoric mood, in Kant’s sense, etc. Kant was a bit of a namedropper, he namedrops Hume, Leibniz, Berkeley too despite barely knowing their work.
I like his movies, didn't know he wrote a book till I randomly saw it at a store today.
The dude from Taxi Driver with the jewfro?
He's the thinking man's Woody Allen.
>>24923846What a strange thing to write about as one’s only book
The reason Borges considers English a "finer" language than Spanish is because of English' mutt status. As Borges puts it, English gets to draw on the Anglo-Germanic language tradition as well as the French-Latinate tradition. It has words from each and structures of grammar from both, including multiple words that technically mean the same thing, but have different aesthetic senses. Borges famously used the example of "Holy Spirit" versus "Holy Ghost." Same expression, in theory, but both give off different vibes.So: is he right?
>>24922010he'll never be as retarded as you
I'm reading his book Ficciones.How many of these stories are just going to be reviews or critiques of fake stories?
>>24918920The language, that is to say the particular tongue, in which Shakspeare wrote, cannot be left out of consideration. It will not be disputed, that one language may possess advantages which another does not enjoy; and we may state with confidence, that English excels all other languages in the number of its practical words. The French may bear the palm in the names of trades, and in military and diplomatic terms. Of the German it may be said, that, exclusive of many mineralogical words, it is incomparable in its metaphysical and psychological force: in another respect it nearly rivals the Greek:The learned Greek, rich in fit epithets,Blest in the lovely marriage of pure wordsI mean in its capability of composition—of forming compound words. Italian is the sweetest and softest language; Spanish the most majestic. All these have their peculiar faults; but I never can agree that any language is unfit for poetry, although different languages, from the condition and circumstances of the people, may certainly be adapted to one species of poetry more than to another.Take the French as an example. It is, perhaps, the most perspicuous and pointed language in the world, and therefore best fitted for conversation, for the expression of light and airy passion, attaining its object by peculiar and felicitous turns of phrase, which are evanescent, and, like the beautifully coloured dust on the wings of a butterfly, must not be judged by the test of touch. It appears as if it were all surface and had no substratum, and it constantly most dangerously tampers with morals, without positively offending decency. As the language for what is called modern genteel comedy all others must yield to French. Italian can only be deemed second to Spanish, and Spanish to Greek, which contains all the excellences of all languages. Italian, though sweet and soft, is not deficient in force and dignity; and I may appeal to Ariosto, as a poet who displays to the utmost advantage the use of his native tongue for all purposes, whether of passion, sentiment, humour, or description.
>>24922151But in English I find that which is possessed by no other modern language, and which, as it were, appropriates it to the drama. It is a language made out of many, and it has consequently many words, which originally had the same meaning; but in the progress of society those words have gradually assumed different shades of meaning. Take any homogeneous language, such as German, and try to translate into it the following lines:But not to one, in this benighted age,Is that diviner inspiration given.That burns in Shakspeare's or in Milton's page.The pomp and prodigality of heaven.(Gray's Stanzas to Bentley)In German it would be necessary to say 'the pomp and spendthriftness of heaven,' because the German has not, as we have, one word with two such distinct meanings, one expressing the nobler, the other the baser idea of the same action.The monosyllabic character of English enables us, besides, to express more meaning in a shorter compass than can be done in any other language. In truth, English may be called the harvest of the unconscious wisdom of various nations, and was not the formation of any particular time, or assemblage of individuals. Hence the number of its passionate phrases—its metaphorical terms, not borrowed from poets, but adopted by them. Our commonest people, when excited by passion, constantly employ them: if a mother lose her child she is full of the wildest fancies, and the words she uses assume a tone of dignity; for the constant hearing and reading of the Bible and Liturgy clothes her thoughts not only in the most natural, but in the most beautiful forms of language.
>>24918939I've seen this view repeated ad nauseam in various forms: the less coherent the language is, the more it is poetic. Languages with uniform, clear, simple rules might be easy to learn and allow you to concisely transmit your thoughts, but what good they are for art? Oh no, in your language all verbs have the same ending so you wouldn't mix them up with other parts of speech? This means you can't rhyme them together because it would be lame. What you really want is a language with horrendously complicated rules riddled with exceptions and traps, where you can't even tell apart a question from a statement, a noun from a verb, a statement from a command. Oh wow, in English language the imperative mood appears exactly identical as the indicative mood? This is such a wonderfully poetic language! The only thing that could've improved it is an addition of grammatical genders. Yeah, sometimes you can't even tell how to pronounce a word you're looking at (let alone guess what part of speech it is and what form it is in), but just imagine how many wonderful possibilities for a clever wordplay it gives to you!
Is there anything better than reading good books?
unironically gooningpretty much the only two things i do
>>24915931Reading good books with your kids or grandchildren
>>24915931Living a good life
>>24918587Add to this a woman you love is with you and she is discreetly playing with your penis under a blanket
>>24915938YWNBAW
>Flaubert lived with his mother his entire adult life>Lovecraft lived with his mother and aunts almost his entire life>Borges lived with his mother almost his entire adult life>Adam Smith lived with his mother his entire adult life>Robert E Howard lived with his mother his entire adult life>JK Toole lived with his mother almost his entire adult life>Proust lived with his mother his entire adult life>Kafka lived with his mother most of his adult life>Poe lived with his aunt his entire adult life>Althusser lived with his mother almost his entire adult life>Grabinski lived with his mother almost his entire adult life>Pessoa lived with his mother and aunts almost his entire adult life>Dickinson lived with her mother her entire adult life>O'Connor lived with her mother her entire adult life>Ashton Smith lived with his mother his entire adult lifeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24921142Old family structure
>>24921142Now list all the great authors that didn’t live with their mom.
>>24921142borges mom looks very stylish here
>>24923891No
Jack Kerouac also lived with his mother for most of his adult life
>notwithstanding
>>24918709anime website
>>24917618I say this and look like this
>as it were>one must
>>24916233One of the basedest images I've seen in a while.
>wherefore
Thoughts on this series? I love it to death but I know the focus on worldbuilding rather than character stories in the later two books is divisive for a lot of people. Hopes and expectations for Children of Strife as well
>>24922242About to start the 3rd book in the series (Children of Memory) and I'm loving it. Though I was surprised that the epilogue of the 2nd book revealed so much about the future.Makes you think, though. If we do encounter a truly alien race of people, how will we communicate with them? There's no guarantee that they will communicate through any of the senses we recognize as humans. Sight, smell, hearing, touch, etc.
>>24922311Memory gets a little bit preachy on some of the philosophical stuff but in general it's a fun ride, I fucking LOVE the ending. >If we do encounter a truly alien race of people, how will we communicate with them?Tchaikovsky's newer book Shroud's main focus is actually on aliens and humans having such an incompatible understanding of "intelligence" we don't even recognize each other as sapient. Mostly because the aliens are blind and use EM waves to communicate. It's really good and raises even more concerns with the likelihood of communicating with another species
>>24922242I only read the first book and thought it was atrocious.
I am a adult White man w/ a African child’s reading rate, I’ve decided only 5 buuks are allowed in muh ‘library’, I already have 4…>1.The New Testament including Psalms(gideons)>2.hand written annotated(heavily)AA big book>3.hand written annotated “The Philosophy Of Aristotle”(signet classics)>4.Václav Havel “Living In Truth” edited by Jan Vladislav I can fit one more scroll in my grip what should it be based off the “vibe” given…preferably something politically practical, maybe American? Any other indispensable /lit/ for the textually limited White man??
Stop making so many threads you mentally ill psycho
>>24923868I was looking for more work does being a janny pay well, or is the cost of being a real life loser get to you…please :) fren end your pathetic life now & let the real niggas have fun
>>24923868Considering how narcissistic I am diary fagging and the like being contained to once a week or less is pretty good…sounds like you’re mad I have fun…it’s 4chan luh nigga…feel free to reply you know I like to get into it stalking my poast history like a fucking tranny
Hey /fellas/ so I just finished a lovely Dr.pepper thinking about posting about it of the anime board…idk might be off topic, is there a board for enjoying delicious soda beverages
Guess who boughted a dozen books off Amazon last weekend but hasn't read a single page of fiction in the entire year
>>24923196>hasn't read a single page of fiction in the entire yearand nothing of value was lost
>>24923196Were they from the same series ESL-kun?
>>24923196>boughted
>>24923196>guess who bought a dozen dildos off Amazon last week but hasn't talked to a single woman in the entire life
>>24923196Books are for collecting so people will think you're smart. You don't actually read them.
How did writing go from being a historically male dominated field to being dominated by millennial and zoomer women today?
>>24923468being able to reproduce without women would probably solve this. yeah, sure I mean I'll miss them (with some caveats) but its clear they're not interested in anything other than destroying society at this point.
>>24923455NTA but no
>>24923344>Price of a college degree becomes grossly overinflated>Channeling every middle class and above child into the college system makes being "educated" worthless>Live in a patriarchal society where men are expected to make good money to be considered successful>Creates excessive pressure to study business or STEM (even before that term was adopted) or else be ridiculed for being an impractical retard>Women face no such pressure>Study whatever they want so they can enroll in liberal arts programs without judgement>After multiple decades they dominate those fields
I dont care whatsoever. Contemporary literature is terrible except for a few male writers. I read all great books published before 2000 and focus on the medium that has captured male interest and is the new avantgarde art form still in its baby steps: Video games.
>>24923344Women control or influence 85% of consumer spending.
>Yeah so this indescribable horror God is a vigintillion years old and is all powerful and beyond space and time and everyone around it vomited as soon as they saw it because it was so indescribably horrendous >but also here's what it probably looked like, it had a million eyes and a million tentacles>but don't worry because some ordinary joes' accidently bumped into it with their boat and said some alakazam chants written down by sheik djibouti and now its gone from this planet forever until the next storyIf this guy was writing in the 21st century everyone would just call him an autist. Why are the Eldritch horrors weak as shit? Humans always win out against these timeless all powerful beings.
>>24923775you are brown.
Dagon had a guy bumping into it in a boat and he literally kills himself in the end because he was driven t madness.
>manchild-core
>>24923775Being indescribably horrendous while having some vaguely describable features works pretty well. As does the sense of relative powerlessness and mystery when a thing you don't comprehend is warded off by something you don't understand for a period of time you can't predict. It was a good story.
These stealth flattery threads that also double as a writing exercise are so lame. If you want to talk Lovecraft then just say so.
What's the worst book you've ever read?
>>24923713>call it "notes from the underground"hahaha sorry you dnf'd and got filtered, retard
reads like a poltard's fanfic
>>24923688this is the worst book ever made and it's just 300 pages
>>24923688The Power of Babel>Expected a series of interesting philological anecdotes and instead got a series of useless memoirs about some groid's fascination with yids.. At least, for as far as I was willing to read.
From Bacteria to Bach and BackI'm not sure why but I couldn't stomach it, it just felt like the author thinks he's the smartest most enlightened guy ever
