Now that the dust has settled, are there any light novels that are /lit/ approved?
>>25121890How do you make a novel ``light``?
>>25123296By being a really bad writer to the point that no publisher wants you. It's very fortunate that the anime fans don't read enough to be able to discern bad writing from the good. Very.
Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere. Kawakami wrote one of the longest fantasy epics you've ever seen, loosely based on the 30 Years War and Japan's warring stated period, filled with mechs,bsex jokes and girls with huge breasts in stupidly tight body suits. Which might make him one of the most based people alive.
>>25121890There's the holy trinity, obviously. Haruhi Suzumiya, Oregairu and (in my opinion the most important of all) Toradora. Once you have read those there's really no point in coming back to literature ever again (unless to re-read them), as there's nothing new to be gained anymore.
>>25123296It's just YA slop for teenagers. Light Novel is just the name of the genre, like YA for us.
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
You are why beautiful names end in 'A'.Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day?Nay, the radiance that is thine brings chills,Russian darling, Winter's love, looks that kill. Because of you I drank crystal liquor.In the past; on the rocks, my drink of choice.The water that burns like candle wick, yourFirst impression. From bitterness, rejoice! I don't really drink anymore, for my healthAnd from adultery I'd witnessed, too. An awful betrayal done in blurred stealth.I've tea and espresso as substitute. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I jerk off to trannies;They have such nice fannies;But they'll never be grannies;For women they're not.
You, I'll remember: We were too alikeIn the ways we were hurt. Hearts pierced by pikes,At distance, killed in cowardice's waves.From this pain we regressed into our caves.Time we shared in the dark ages, lightsome,The mess of history's ignorant youth.Alive in spite of the dangerous truth,Enlightenment, Maturity's war drum.It's arrival was quick, adulthood's horn.Awash were we, bathed in Reality,It's blood stained us. We were hurt, this world torn.Suicide, drugs: Escapism's decree.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25125573*For women, they are not
In a tiny little houseThere's an itty bitty mouseIn his teeny tiny bed Rests his eeny weeny headBut he just can't fall asleepHe has trouble counting hseepHe already drank his milkAnd his sheets are made of silkMr Mouse will need his restEvery day for him's a testBut it's too noisy in his houseI feel sorry for the mouseHe has faggots in his wallsHe can hear them slapping ballsThey go at it every nightComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I really don't enjoy reading this. I kinda get what it's going for, though I definitely cannot say that I understand it. It's just that I most definitely do not enjoy reading it. Every so often there'll be a bit that really draws me in, but after a tad it goes away and I'm left just sludging through. I'll finish it probably, but I'll only do so to say>I finished Infinite JestAm I supposed to enjoy it, or is it supposed to be a trial to go through?
>>25124957Who’s the barefoot cutie with the camera
>>25124957You're supposed to enjoy every book you read. If you're not enjoying yourself, drop it (unless it's something like Leviticus, which you should go through at least once)
>>25124957That image is such millennial-era internet cringe
my god, kid, is this your first time reading a novel that's not about dragons or exploding space ships? faggot.
>>25124957>or is it supposed to be a trial to go through?it is, definitely. that was his intention. he even does stuff like naming characters the same thing just so youre even more confused. it's an exercise for your brain which is what he wanted you to do, instead of passively consuming shit like the television. he wanted you to get bored by it at parts.i doubt anyone else in this thread read it do dont feel bad by their feeble mocking
Does any other detective series come close? pure kino
>>25123414No. Tis the best.
>>25123414>Father Brown>Ballad of the White Horse>Heretics>The Man Who Was ThursdayI like how Chesterton has at least one absolute masterpiece in basically every genre of writing. Poetry, short stories, novels, essays, he wrote a lot, and while not all of it is great, he's got at least one legitimate gem in every single category.
>>25125772He was an incredible writer. Truly one of my favorites.
>>25125812Supposedly not a bad playwright, either, though I've never seen or read any of his plays.
>>25123414Professor Augustus S. F. X. Van Dusen, Ph.D., LL.D., F.R.S., M.D., M.D.S.
thread for sharing good old textbookshttps://archive.org/details/childsillustrate00keet
>>25124471speak when you're given the permission to, Sergei.
>>25124471get AIDS and die you fucking orc.
>>25124477>>25124480ok hohol
>>25124093https://libgen.li/ads.php?md5=053ac45be095d8fcb5a3028d034b57ac
>>25125502>https://libgen.li/ads.php?md5=053ac45be095d8fcb5a3028d034b57acthanks! this is great.>>25124471Well, you are right, but you know what I mean.
>"Philosopher">look inside >hates Wisdomgot played like a damn fiddle
I'm interested in his horror but think his worldview is gay. Is there any point reading him? If so what does /lit/ recommend?
I just finished reading a couple of his books. Songs for Dead Dreamer/Grimscribe were 7/10. Some of the short stories were standouts, like Spectacles in the Drawer, Dr. Locrian's Asylum and the Last Feast of Harlequin.Conspiracy Against the Human Race was 6/10. I definitely prefer his fiction writing and he should just stick to that. I've already read many of the pessimists he mentions, so the book half the time just comes off like some surface-level tour of philosophical pessimism. Plus his writing gets a little redundant, some of his arguments are very arbitrary and him using his own fiction to end off chapters felt kinda self-indulgent and presumptuous to me, personally.I plan on reading more of his short stories and his poetry at some point. He's pretty good, but if you've already read Schopenhauer/Zapffe/Cioran/Poe/Lovecraft/Kafka, he definitely comes off "been there, done that." I'm sure non-reader tourists from /tv/ who heard about him through True Detective probably suck his balls and taint like he's a one of a kind genius, though.
>>25125115>the Last Feast of Harlequin.This is what I want to read most as I love clowns. >pessimistsI find many of them tiring. I enjoyed Cioran when I was in my teens. I enjoy Lovecraft and Kafka and Poe, though. Does his horror stand out as portraying the horrors of modernity or is it just le nihilism?
>>25125123I've only read the short stories that were published in the 1980s and early '90s, those ones are all le nihilism and le cosmic terrors.
>>25125056I think even if you aren't a pessimist you'll enjoy his work, if anything it will be creepier if you aren't. Laird Barron is less of a pessimist as far as Weird authors go so maybe try him out too.
>>25125056Ligotti is brilliant. He is the king of atmosphere.
Genuinely Good Econ Books? I mean what the fuck, how do these cockroaches crawl out from God knows where and so consistently shit on the same field, making worthless and nonsensical books? Or am I just stupid? Then alternatively I should have titled this thread "books that make you genuinely smart?" Where can I begin to restore myself, at least on an intellectual level? Please No /x/. I understand you can't just pray for wisdom or intelligence, that you really have to involve yourself in what you are doing. t. Not Londonfrog
>>25125237picrel probably your best bet>>25125383hazlitt's book is good for the basics, just be aware that he's a diehard libertarian type who's consistently and severely uncharitable toward any government intervention in the marketplace. most economists would disagree with him there >>25125386this anon is very wise>>25125407this anon is very retarded
>>25125407Found the socialist.
>>25125451The EU is full of socialistsMarx was a socialistYou can't even give a counter argument. It is just bullshit of ocurse. You can't deny it.
get some econ textbooks. do u ask for "good calculus books"? no u just get the textbook, do the problems at the end, and move on.
>>25125442Publisher? If it's a mainstream publisher, especially Prentice Hall, Pergamon Press or Macmillan, you cannot trust it. Those and others are all mossad owned.
Poetry is superior to prose and anyone who prefers the latter is an uncultured pleb. No I won't elaborate.
>>25124602>this is an insanely reductive thing to say.You're not saying that 'traditional art can be improved upon', you're saying that traditional art, or at least poetry, is fundamentally flawed and arbitrarily defined. That's a big difference.Do you really want to go around in fifty circles with you accusing me of saying things I didn't say? You stupidly misunderstood what I said. All you can claim is that 'but but I know what you REALLY meant', but at the end of the day I didn't say what you think I really meant. So you resort to accusing me of pretending I meant something different to what I said. This is embarrassing. The phrases 'all modern literature is trash' and 'I never said older authors are intrinsically better' are not in contradiction. You have to accept that fact.>the utopic viewAnother cliched thought. Periods of artistic renaissance are not primarily determined by total population or by the population of 'educated' people. It is a matter of quality, not quantity. There's nothing 'utopic' about recognising that there is a distinction in refinement and aesthetic sensitivity between the education of 18th century and 21st century composers.>Think on thisWhat for? You're not saying anything, just that 'people in the 1600s wrote poetry and plays', and 'people in the 1700s started writing novels and following Enlightenment philosophy'. Who do you expect to be impressed by historical and literary observations this retardedly simple? No one said literature hadn't evolved over hundreds of years. What point are you even trying to make?>Whoa, Mr. Tradition!It was an example of how popular art is no longer original, and at the same time that traditional artistic developments were much more advanced. Would you like to offer any refutation?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Who IS the greatest poet? And how would they handle writing a novel?
>>25125226For me, it's either Homer or Holderlin
>>25124129>Poetry in its traditional form is droning, repetitive, anti-natural and boring as fuck. Poetry as it tries to become more experimental is formless, ugly, and just shows incapability to attaining its former style.this is the most retarded shit I've ever read, you've either never read a good poem in your entire life or you simply lack the faculty to appreciate it. tragic in either case.
>>25125226Blake, then Hölderlin, then Rimbaud, then Milton.
I’ve tried both /r/ and /wsr/ to no avail, if I’ve made this up I’ll actually write it out but I don’t think I did. My mind isn’t what it once was if it was ever anything to begin with so let’s get on with it.I’m looking for a story I heard, haunting and funny, poignant but I have forgotten the point so I have only the major plot points to relay to you and it’s not a very long story. Forgive me for my uselessness.>maybe you’ve come across it tooThere’s a woman whom, on a homestead of sorts, kills a bird, I don’t remember the fauna, wrings it’s neck and in its death throes it’s spasm and lurching end reminded her of her grandfather, whom, having become arthritic beyond use, instructed her to relieve him, and the Onanistic spasms of the old man made her reflect on the bird, her life, her legacy.It was not a long story and not a sexual one. But a mature and thoughtful prose that I wonder wasn’t part of a larger collection of writing I had read, unless I’m going so wrong, it was shared to me personally from someone in a writing group I attended.I’d love to hear it again as I was younger when I heard it and wondered if these years had added a context or nuance I’d been missing previously. It stayed with me tho and if you came across it I imagine it would stay with you too.I’ll bump my own shitty thread for now but I’ve exhausted every ai every google or DuckDuckGo possibility,I’ve looked everywhere for this for so long I’m beginning to worry it’s just a repression of some larger thing in my life.Come hang out in my thread I’ll probably just be dropping authors reading their own works for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrsC0mQyPbM&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3DThese won’t all be DFW but judging by your catalog he’s pretty relevant hereI promise I won’t post in defense of the lobster until I really run out of material >cleanyourroomsPeterson.gif
>>25125015Pretty sure I have read that but I can't quite place it, sounds very familiar. Can you dredge up any other details?Random guess would be Sherwood Anderson.
>>25125015Chuck Palahniuk talked about this story once, it was written by someone from his writing group. I never read it myself and I do not remember the name of the story or the author.
>>25125015>>25125788Ah, found it. It was a passage written for this book. Apparently the publisher censored it from the book, but if you read it then maybe you found an uncensored version or something.
https://therumpus.net/2010/06/03/dear-sugar-the-rumpus-advice-column-39-the-baby-bird/
Anyone here like Clark Ashton Smith? I have heard that he was the best prose-stylist of the Lovecraft circle and when I read him I certainly feel like he has a good grasp on his language and he has some sentences that I am a little jealous of, but I am curious to see what others think.
>>25125723>dunsany>only writing about fairiesNo
>>25125726Oh so you're autistic. Okay, Dunsany writes tales from fairyland and dreamland, CAS writes stories about death and futility. They're trying to accomplish different things.
>>25125732Dunsany wrote about death and futility at least 50 times. First in 1905. Then in 1906. Then again in 1907 and 1908. And the last time he wrote about death and futility was 1947. Can’t say that CAS separates himself on a great level.
>>25125733Something like Dunsany's Fame and the Poet is different from something like CAS's The Corpse and the Skeleton though. You still see Dunsany relying on a figure from Fairyland and you still see CAS appreciating a corpse like no one else ever could.
>>25125738I’ll continue this discussion when I get home
>>25125016You really can't say anything about pre-literate societies. It's just an ink blot onto which those anthropologists project their biases. You can make a couple of rubbish heaps, 4 walls and a hearth into just about any sort of society you like.The theories are tossed and rewritten from the ground up with each new wave of new anthropologists with new biases.Written history is a must for grounding things in some semblance of reality - and even then they will try to torture it into a novel reading of the facts as far as can possibly be allowed.
Prehistory is fake and gayer than Dinosaurs
>>25124455almost all new world abbos for that matter. The Australoids are however a truly special case.
>>25125586You're fake and gay
Can anyone identify why I am shit at writing?Whenever I read other people's poems it makes me cringe and I think their poems are pretentious garbage, but everyone else thinks their poems are profound and good, and whenever I write a poem everyone else thinks mine are pretentious garbage.Identify my major malfunction in my writing."I am a pearl in the tropics,I am free like the birds,Mankind is afraid of the sight of me,When he sees me, he freezes up like ice. He becomes motionless like a statue."What is the correct way to write something like this? Any help? Lol.
>>25123984sure, but highlighting the metre shows you how it interacts with natural speech stress. that's also why i used different colours for syllables the metre allows him to stress and those he actually does stress.
>>25124440All of those "unstressed" syllables are stressed normally. Are you esl?
>>25124866>above: ə-ˈbəv >forest: ˈfȯr-əst>parakeet: ˈper-ə-ˌkēt >prevails: pri-ˈvāls>rudiments: ˈrü-də-məntsThe apostrophe indicates the emphasis. I copied all of these from merriam-webster.com. Did you misread his image or is it you who is the ESL?
>>25124995First line, 3rd foot. >-est ofClearly a standard iamb. "Of" is metrically stressed and has a stronger natural stress than the "est" of forest.Its not unstressed like the image says.This same mistake is repeated throughout the entire image.You're retarded.
>>25121093Let me answer your question with some questions: >what is the meter of this poem? Why did you choose this meter?>what is the rhyme scheme? Why did you choose it over other rhyme schemes? >why did you choose to start the first two lines with "I am?" >why did you decide to use two similies: a pearl and a bird? Do you believe these two similies compliment each other? Why?>of all the things that are free, why did you choose birds? >of all the things that are motionless, why did you pick a statue? >why is the third line "afraid of the sight of me" and not "afraid of me?" What does "the sight of" add to this line? >of all the things that freeze, why did you pick ice? >how long did it take to write this poem?>do you have any examples of lines or stanzas from this poem you cut? There are no wrong answers. I just want to know your writing process.
Where are my Pope brothers at?
I'm going back and forth on his illiad, yes the poetry is amazing but some stanzas are changed a bit too much imo.Still, the best translation.
>>25124912Try his original poetry.
>>25124918What would you recommend?
>>25124907Right here!*has never read Pope*But I will one day!*probably not*
How do I learn wu wei, chuds?
>>25125039Unlearn action
this poster gets it: >>25125599you can go home now, OP.
>>25125039Just bee yourself.
>>25125610Confucius admired Lao Tzu and frequently mentions the philosophical concept of the Dao (道) in his works
>>25125645>Confucius admired Lao Tzu There is no evidence of that. The concept of Dao is not an invention by Lao TzuHaving said that, Confucius embodied Wu Wei, so reading and understanding him would no doubt help.
