My family doesn’t read.My friends don’t read.My coworkers don’t read.The people at the dentist waiting room don’t read.Students don’t read.iPad kids don’t read.Their parents don’t read.Even (You), you don’t read.
dis nigga ahh readin a book lmao bruh only on /lit/
>>24940084So what? Do you need someone to read to you? Are you a child? Can't you read alone?
>>24940084/lit/ told me that reading is reddit
One work a week, this week is Das Rheingold Now there are imo two ways to enjoy this work. You can watch it, or you can listen and read the staging and libretto. I actually do this with a lot of operas, it's very enjoyable and the singing in operas make it quite easy to follow a bi-lingual libretto. As you probably already know, Wagner wrote the libretto as well, and it is considered to be fine poetry of its own accord, he uses a lot of alliteration so if you like stuff like Beowulf, you would like this libretto, especially if the translation makes an effort to convey the alliteration Parallel project on /classical/ if you're interested >>>/mu/128760142If you want to use it, the channel performing-arts on the Criterion server will be there to follow or links threads or upload resources https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
>>24939127Wasn't this the idea Wagner's grandson had in mind with his staging of the Jahrhundertring, envisioning the cycle set in the Industries Revolution?
>>24939136Industrial*
>>24939136Yes, but also with elements of satire and schizophrenia. In certain scenes I think it works, like with Wotan's long monologue in act 2 of Walkure, but I'm not a fan for the most part.
>>24939152It's a bit difficult to do something new with such a work since it's so holistic, but in the context of a Centennial something would have to be, especially when it's performed annually
>>24939109My favorite opera from the tetralogy.
It's a feeling and a taste, and it's black, and it's very heavy. It comes down over your head, and wraps its tentacles around you, and sinks its long dirty fingernails into your heart. It has the stink of burning flesh and the sight of dread.
So I already read every book of Kant, Schopenhauer, Cioran, Spinoza and Nietzsche What is it I should start with
>>24937682Jung's Map of the Soul: an introduction, forget about anything anyone else says. You can then go to his collected works like Two Essays in Analytical Psychology (the ego and the unconscious).Aion, Aion goes deep and is fucking incredible, the Red Book you can save for last, as it's a fantasy, it's almost like reading a dream diary of a genius
>>24938942Then he was wrong. Poetry is literally framed in language, which is the product of consciousness.This is not to deny that the unconscous is involved in creating art. In fact it's where all good art comes from; but it must be extracted and cast into communicable form in a conscious way.And this is why Graves is wrong about Jung. The myth is what lurks in the unconscious and pulls a man's strings; a poem is an extraction of this unconscious material into intelligible form.The Minoans didn't consciously create myth, they created stories and poetry out of myth.
>>24939812Poetry is composed at the back of the mind: an unaccountable product of a trance in which the emotions of love, fear, anger, or grief are profoundly engaged, though at the same time disciplined; in which intuitive thought reigns supralogically.& myth is the spoken correlative of the acted rite. Religious convention compelled poets to draw plots from traditional mythology whose religious content was already obsolete in Homer’s day. What a people does in relation to its gods must always be one clue, and perhaps the safest, to what it thinks. The first preliminary to any scientific understanding of greek religion is examination of its ritual.
>>24939985That literally reads like a quote from The White Goddess. Not a good look ...
>>24940011it’s a quote from Harrison’s Prolegomena to the Study of Greek Religion.
>good poetry is poetic>good prose is prosaic
>>24939157poetry is what you write when your actual opinions are politically incorrect, for example kiplings white mans burden is obviously anticolonialist and bitter, but today poetry is dead and kanye carefully explains what he means by singing heil hitler
>good nose is noetic>good moss is mosaic
>>24939162a line that's been quoted so many times that it is no longer funny
>>24939157Had we but world enough and time,This coyness, lady, were no crime.We would sit down, and think which wayTo walk, and pass our long love’s day.Thou by the Indian Ganges’ sideShouldst rubies find; I by the tideOf Humber would complain. I wouldLove you ten years before the flood,And you should, if you please, refuseTill the conversion of the Jews.My vegetable love should growVaster than empires and more slow;An hundred years should go to praiseThine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24938937good prose is poetry
opinions on Bret Easton Ellis?
>>24936644Him and Clive "Aids" Barker are the only two fag writers I like.
His books feel shallow, but they're entertaining to read.
smarmy faggot
he was molested by his gay dad which is why he made patrick gay and himself turned out gay... a pathetic boy obsessed with daddy
>>24936644He was good when he was a repressed faggot, then he became faggity faggitous fag and everything fell apart.
any incel literature recommendations?
>>24937420thats too simplistic a reading of wonderful fool people would be better off if they didn't know about endo. It's about exisential disconnection and finding a new ground through fidelity and commitment there isn't anything obviously "holy fool" about the protaganist that's just something people read into it because it's confusing
>>24935344Kind of similar, but I'm wondering if anyone here knows of any good posthumanism literature to read. I've read some of Nick Lands stuff but it seems too based in human thought
>>24935426Try to get to know Jesus first at least
Pessoa
>>24935426Its always to late to kill yourself.
What is the worst book you were forced to read as a child?
>>24923579>Schindler's list really happened retardThere's a book called The Road To Rescue which, in the afterword, the author proves Isaac Stern was a fraud who forged documents to make it look like he was the one with the idea.
It as
>>24923151Its funny to see people get mad over Boy in Striped Pajamas because it makes them realizes the Germans were humans too.
>>24937272It really makes you understand why various great writers claimed to detest allegory. It's just an allegory, that's it, an allegory & nothing else. It's so empty
never let me go by kazuo ishiguro was so ass
I'm using the aggregated chartSo we begin with Moby-Dick. For the first week we'll start slow because we want those who haven't read it, or haven't read it for a while, to get a good taste. Just "extracts" to the end of chapter 2. You can read more if you want of course but I'm not asking much as if now. Next Sunday we will discuss itIf you want to keep track of threads, they will be linked in the Criterion Club: https://discord.gg/t7K9Tu7vF
>>24933731Is your discord cool or not? I don't wanna be doxxed by mentally ill people
>>24939647Yeah I dont think im gonna join a discord that was advertised on 4chan. That's like going to a gas station in Memphis
>>24939651My thought as well
>>24933731I'm an ESL and I hate my voice and I have nothing interesting to say... go on without me bros....
>>24939647It's just a film and book group server, not a clique
is WW1 the most literary historical event?
war is hellunless you're in a big stompy mech then it's hell but you're satan and you get to torture and crush and bathe all the pathetic wretches in fire~!
What does this mean?
>>24938184Probably in terms of poetry. Not so much in other forms, though.For prose, I'd say the American Civil War was the most literary. It certainly involved some distinguished men of letters.
It terms of sheer number yes
>>24938184Wait til you learn about ww2
Has the 'id, ego and superego' ever been disproven?
>>24939317True and real.I too am a Le Bon enjoyer.
>>24939531Only the neocortex can think. But the spinal plexus is part of the peripheral nervous system, and indivisible from the brain.
>>24939272First post only good post
the topological model has hardly even been understood
>>24939549Me three! Read him two years ago, both of his main works
You only need Plato and Aristotle. Everything else is superfluous.
>>24922755You have never even seen a philosophical text
>>24936863if mundanity is already an alienation from the divine then incarnation is in a way already "returning to self" for God, who essentially found Himself in/as His creation. Or mundanity isn't an alienation, it's the passion of Christ that is the genuine alienation because of Sin.
>>24922735>Everything else is superfluous.*Anything
>>24923339Evagrios is mentioned more in the East today but he was pre-schism (early Desert Father) and hugely influential in the West. Saint Bernard of Clairvaux read him a bunch for instance.
>>24922735Platonism and Aristotleanism and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Does anybody come close to the prose of Nabokov?
>>24939126>mostly anglo-saxon words>thesaurus andyyea ok
>>24939145His musicality is excellent but his lack of clarity confuses things
>>24935637Desperate cope, his prose is among the best out there
>>24936724"Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita."Nigga read this and went "where's the human spirit and raw emotion?"
>>24939126Nabokov tried writing thesauruslop and was reduced to writing under 5 layers of irony because his command of the language wasn't great enough to write in that register otherwise. There's no next, this is it.>>24939169It confuses you because you don't put in the effort to understand why it's written that way.
The only purpose for a hardback cover is for it to look nice on a shelf. If you actually read, a paperback is superior in every way.
>>24939545Show us a hardcover you've broken, gorilla
You’re all so stupid
I don't like that the pages bend while reading.
>>24939329What claim of mine seems jestful?
>>24937874What makes you think the act of reading itself isn't also a type of commodity consumption? Why is that only limited to the ownership of the physical book itself? Is it not true, that once upon a time, people used to consume and discuss novels the same way they discuss movies and memes today? The "pathetic" image being curated is not simply finished by putting the books on a bookshelf, but also in the act of reading it, discussing it, and letting it influence.
His best books and also the two funniest books ever written, and I say this as someone who spends 11$ on a cup of coffee and hates backwoods retards.(Warning, reading will make you realize Vonnegut is a joke thieving plagiarizing hack who's books ought to be burned.)
>>24937342>say this as someone who spends 11$ on a cup of coffeeARE YOU RETARDED?
>>24937342>11$>who's bookslmk when you successfully graduate from 6th grade
>>24939603I’m glad you thought so, but that’s honestly his worst. If you liked that you will love these.They were a hit in the day, Teddy Roosevelt named his cat after one of the characters for example.
>>24939714>spends $84,000 on a f-850 truggg he uses to pull a trailer twice a yearWhatever you say, jiggle billy
>>24939877>I’m glad you thought so, but that’s honestly his worst.Why do you say that?
