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/vrpg/ is a place to discuss all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.

Does this mean RPGs are banned on other video game boards? No! /vrpg/ is just a separate board specifically focused on RPGs where discussions about your favorite games can thrive.

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Not Elder Scrolls (not because they don't have good games but because I've played them).
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>>3989032
The SaGa games, at least most of them. FF2 if you can enjoy it.
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>>3989034
FF2 I love. Are there any Saga games you recommend?
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>>3989035
SaGa games are often in two camps, you raise your stat levels or proficiency skill levels. Check out Romancing SaGa 2 and 3, they're more based on fixed attributes while raising proficiency levels while gaining martial skills mid battle. Very worth looking into if you enjoyed Final Fantasy II since the same man behind it is behind SaGa.
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>>3989032
Betrayal At Krondor
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>>3989035
SaGa Frontier is great.

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>go to overworld
>fight one battle
>almost die
>go back to inn
>rest
>go to overworld
>fight one battle
>almost die
>go back to inn
>rest
>go to overworld
>fight one battle
>almost die
>go back to inn
>rest

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>>3988810
>this isnt explained
This is in fact explicitly explained by Trode the first time you exit Farebury.
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>>3988078
Are you retards able to breathe without instruction?
The worst cope is
>You have to grind
No, you don't. You just have to not be a mouth breathing retard to win the children's video game. Maybe that's the issue, this game was made for kids in a 100+ IQ nation, not a rainbow nation of 70 IQ sub-humans.
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>>3988810
>monsters on high places or deep in the forest will be stronger
>this isnt explained
seems like basic common sense
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>>3988810
>monsters on high places
>stronger
That explains a lot since I usually like to go to hilltops to have a good vantage point for treasure chests.
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>>3988447
>Hero
I make sure to account for getting up to Lightning Thrust in Spear for late game reasons, rest into Courage and Sword. Boomerang and Fisticuffs are a trap. I use Boomerangs a lot, but you don't really need points in it to kill groups.
>Yangus
You want to get Execution in Axe for late game reasons again. I think a lot of the rest is personal preference. I like maxing out scythe.and getting about halfway up Humanity.
>Jessica
Staffs is necessary for magic, it's good to get whip for Twin Dragon Lash. Rest is mostly personal preference.
>Angelo
Staff you want to again max out. I like to do Bow since it's a unique weapon and you won't be competing with hero for swords. Mostly personal preference otherwise.

The big thing is to make sure you get the critical attacks in spear and axe for late game. It can be a real pain if you are trying to level those late.

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It's a new year. How is your AQW/DF/whatever grinding going?
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>>3982105
From what I recall they're about on the level of side content in other AE games. Fun dialogue and some interesting lore, but nothing like the main sagas of AQW and DF that are actually compelling. That being said, I only played during the testing versions and a bit later I went through until Arcangrove before stopping. Perhaps it has way better designed areas, quests, storylines, etc now, but it was way too much of a slog to actually play back then to go any further for me. Especially with how the red mmo attack zones seemed to always be inaccurate for my internet at least.

>>3984393
>they said late next week or the week after that in the latest update
So anytime from friday next week to late 2028 by Artix standards.
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Anyone try out the alpha?
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Are you gonna fall for the MA shilling?
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just one more...
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>managed to buy an overlooked giant weapon in the ac shop that was about to go rare
>it gigamogs 99% of all weapons in the game
>everyone asking where I got it
>ignore them so I can maintain my weapon size monopoly

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Because the thread on the first game was a success. Thoughts, questions, discussions, and arguments are all welcome.

>blog below
Finally gotten around to a second run and im finding myself enjoying the game more. Weaponcraft with Abella PC has been fun so far.
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>>3988997
I can agree with the other games being included except thread topic.
Nobody plays FnH for the "plot" except samaritrannies
Also once again if you use Trial and Error as your argument you are calling out every RPGs with permadeath and unforgiving mechanics
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The other thread hadn’t even reached its bump limit, a bit too early for this one no?
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>>3989161
this is about termina and all my TND posts got deleted thobeit
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>>3989145
Actually, It's Trial, RNG and Error.

Oh you slept in a bed? Too bad, you rolled poorly and now you get raped and die. Oh you couldn't magically know about this trap on this tile ahead of time? Too bad.
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>>3989187
>you rolled poorly and now you get raped and die
england simulator

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What makes for a good action combat system in an RPG? I see people say FFVII Remake/Rebirth are the best ever. But why?
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>>3988843
deny it all you want, bittercuck
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>>3988845
amalur beats skyrim to death and wears its face
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>>3988846
if you say so
looks like a ps2 game to me, and the studio died right after
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>>3988860
t. never owned a ps2 or played amalur
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>>3988297
Kingdom Hearts is the best desu

Anybody else love good click bait? Can you come up with 4 SNES games better than Chrono Trigger?

(I couldn't, and neither could the author of this fine bait.)
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>>3988770
There may be some truth about an odd game missing localization I suppose. But ff2, ff3 and ff5 were soggy shit sandwiches of games that should have remained delocalized. Ff5 has came back into style when Gen z decided grinding could be fun. When the alternative is doom scrolling that warps your understanding of a good game is. A game's strengths become repetitiveness and long hours of playing time.

Ff4, a much better game.than 5, knew how to wrap itself up. Ff6, while long, wasn't the same repetitive bullshit as 5. Some of us remember a time when trolls would talk about how good ff5 was. Now they don't need to -- they fucking won.
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>>3988955
>Ff5 has came back into style when Gen z decided grinding could be fun
Stopped reading here. We emulated the fan translation in the 90s, and everyone I knew who liked any Final Fantasies liked 5.
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>>3988955
calling ff3 shit is very interesting bait
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>>3988956
You act like I didn't either play the fan trans either. There weren't enough rpgs back then. And let's face it, while 5 was a shit sandwich compared to 4 or 6, it was still better than any of the phantasy stars. I am just saying that final fantasy 5 needs not be spoken in the same breath as FF4, FF6, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, or Mario RPG.
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>>3989180
>or Mario RPG
9/10 bait. You had me going until the very end

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>Remember the person who used to spam threads about this game for years
>Finally decide to try it out myself
>The schizo turned out to be right the entire time
Damn, that was disappointing.
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>>3985607
I liked it but not as much as Earthbound. Never played Mother 1, I had a job by then.
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>>3989026
>Never played Mother 1, I had a job by then.
did you take a time machine to 1989
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>>3988935
Yeah only if you don't like the Americana setting.
Otherwise it's the only JRPG with that setting.
Maybe only Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass is the closest thing to M3.
>>3988950
I don't think it's overhyped by the virtue of being the only JRPG that evoke that sense of atmosphere.
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>>3989146
I mostly think it's overhyped by its own marketing, what with all the "don't cry until the end" stuff. It's a great game with both a great tragedy surrounding the main characters, and a fitting conclusion to Porky's story for people who were still invested with Mother 2's cliffhanger.
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https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/2970148/#q3009833

A person who had actually reviewed Mother 3 and had critically analyzed the game, went into a juxtafag thread and basically validated almost everything he ever said about it, and the entire thread a meltdown trying say otherwise, but failed lmao.

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I'm 100 hours into Kingmaker and I think i'm in chapter 2 or 3 and I everything about the game is really quite good, there's just one thing thats kind of ruining the entire experience and is tempting me to drop the game and Owlcat as a whole forever.

Does the filler combat ever let up? Maybe it's because i'm playing turn based with a controller(pc) but it feels like i'm fucking drowning in combat all the fucking time. I'm playing on challenging and it kind of feels fucking ridiculous at this point and the pacing is completely fucked by virtue of constant never ending battle at all fucking times.

Are all the Owlcat games like this? I already bought all of them because I heard they were on par with Larian. It doesnt even feel like there's a "little" too much combat it feels like the combat to story ratio is completely fucked 4x in the wrong direction and its blowing my mind and driving me a little crazy.

Does anyone else feel this way or is it just me?
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>>3989084
Jon is an incel. He's the ultimate archetypical villain. And in ToB the villains are your inheritance (nature) and Melissan. So even if you don't like Jon, he's no more contrived than Sarevok (especially since Sarevok doesn't even stay dead and is instead resurrected like a fucking capeshit character for ToB), and nor is he the only villain.
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>>3989084
Except that BG2 does have freeform map exploration. It literally has an overland map and you can choose which locations you go to.
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>>3989157
>(especially since Sarevok doesn't even stay dead and is instead resurrected like a fucking capeshit character for ToB), and nor is he the only villain.
Thanks for reinforcing my point about BG2's plot.

>>3989158
You literally, literally, cannot go to a location unless an NPC tells you in exists. It isn't free-form, at all. Not the way BG1's is.
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>>3989178
How would you know the location is there if you weren't told it exists? Why would you go there if you didn't have a reason? Remember that you are not from Amn, you've never been to Amn before. You wake up as a confused stranger who has been abducted.
Maybe you should play the game so you know something about it, before you complain.
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>>3989183
You are so retarded it hurts.

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The thirst is real. Translation soon, hopefully.
Hollowwald’s main story is complete. Game’s coming out this summer.
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>>3989030
I think grinding in general is a nice way to chill out and turn my brain off for a bit
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>95% done translation still isnt out after month of waiting
Any day now. Stay hopeful.
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Thirst will never be translated. Enjoy L. Depth and Ino's game again.
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Remember when anons made fun of me for saying that 95% meant we still had ~two months left?
No comment there.
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>>3989135
I don't blame them. Only two months?

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Since a Romancing thread went awhile, how about a general discussion of the assorted SaGa games?
The original gameboy series, known as Final Fantasy Legend in the west, the Romancing series on the SNES which the west didn't get until the mobile remasters and Minstrel Song remake, the Frontier series for the PlayStation... and the other stuff that has it's fans probably maybe.
A hodgepodge of divergent and experimental jrpgs, from the usual Squaresoft fare and even from it's own series or within each series, made by the annoying contrarians and heretics within Square who got given shoestring budgets and left to make what they want.
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>>3955314
Have you played Hat World?
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>>3987538
God I wish ROTS was faithful to the OG, it would actually play like a SaGa game at least instead of whatever the fuck it turned out to be
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>>3986892
It does get annoying. I like that there is a dedicated defensive option and that it's useful, but it feels like Legend of Legacy is forcing you to always have a blocker or you'll get ran down by enemies. This wouldn't be a huge issue, I had a similar defensive character with Fat Robin in Romancing SaGa 3 with the desert lance formation utilizing matador. It's painful in LoL because you only have three characters, so now your actions every turn are reduced to two. So now you have two actions a turn and you want to get your water shield up immediately to reduce all incoming damage due to how hard foes hit. So now on the first turn of every battle you have a guy always on defense, then another contracting water magic, then another casting water wall. Then magic is tedious because you're bound by rules with contracting the element before being able to use it. Enemies can just cast the element at any time and the elemental contract is on their field. So now magic is a lopsided tug of war that isn't in the players favor and the player needs to extend battle further in order to get any magic set up because they're consuming so many of their limited turns just so their characters are well defended, someone allowing magic to be cast, and another to actually cast the magic.

At times you can horde battle points and dump it on enemies, but that only takes you so far with regular encounters with your skill resources carrying over to each battle rather than being refreshed. I remember the final boss being an arduous battle with just making sure I don't miss a beat with keeping my water contract up so I will always have my water wall up to reduce damage.
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>>3945497
Saga Frontier 2 has astonishing music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clh5bBXoN2Q
could never really stick with the game long enough to finish it, but i keep coming back to the soundtrack.
i also liked the idea of a guy born without magic in a magic world using metallurgy and skill to overcome his handicap.
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I love Scarlet Grace and Emerald Beyond and hope that EB flopping (because Square didnt fucking advertise it)doesnt make them abandon the battle system

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why are the randbats in this one so slow?
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>>3988621
>trandbats
What kind of mentally unwell cuckery is this? "True RNG battle" doesn't even have a d in it unless you further expand RNG.
>randencs (8 letters)
>randbats (8 letters)
>seedbats (8 letters)
>tranbats (8 letters)
Don't insert a D where it doesn't belong you dirty turd.
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>>3988650
It’s like cisalpine Gaul and transalpine Gaul, yknow?
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>>3988650
randbats = random battles
trandbats = true random battles
i dunno seems pretty clear to me lol
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>>3988728
trandbast=trans dicked bats, aka rouge
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Picrel + 3x speed boost with the menu settings ATB active and max battle speed.
Shit'll fuck you up.

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There's a sale going on, so I picked up a few titles I haven't played yet.

I don't really like FuRyu games though.
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Trinity Trigger looks like a classical JRPG.
I just looked up average completion times, and it's under 20 hours.
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I was in the middle of the Greed boss fight when the power went out.
I was winning, but inching the units around hazards is a pain I don't want to do it all over again.
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>>3986579
It was pretty bad
play Alliance Alive if you want something traditionalish
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>>3986599
>Alliance Alive
I liked that one but they only published it
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I'm about halfway through Metal Max Returns, so far I'm enjoying it. The vehicle/on foot modes are kind of neat even if the game hasn't really combined the two all that well so far.

Does the rest of the series improve on that any? I'd like the concept and the setting, but I don't think I'd want to play another barebones RPG in the same vein.
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>>3988679
Nyet
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>>3988679
If only that was your first game introducing you to the metal max series, because MMR, MS, and MM2R are like quite the best ones, usually for quality of life reasons like easier storytelling and customization.
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>>3988758
Metal Saga is fucking awful to play.
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>>3988948
3 is decent, 4 is currently unplayable unless you know Japanese
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Sharing how to get the swan boat from 2R, looks way fun than the nemesis, also the boat in MM3 doesn't allow tanks in them, right?
>>3987831
Nice. What was your gear, your team, your tanks?

It's Monday once again. What monster collecting or monster raising games have you been playing? What upcoming ones are you looking forward to?
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>>3985580
TORIFUNE and the final floors of Dreamer's Monolith are absolutely sadistic. Fucking Christ.
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>>3985580
>>3986369
play more drpgs
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>>3980675
>>3980619
Time stranger is fucking boring. The story is also ass.
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Steam added tags for 'Wolf' and 'capybara' but still no Monster Taming tag.
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