I was only 15 when this came out. Was super excited for it. A whole new expansion pack for my favorite RPG. Fuck yes, rushed to the store to get it ASAP.And what do you know? It's a glorified sewer level. That's it. You can't leave the city. There is no open world. No rolling hills, no Morrowind mainland.Yep, the thing that made the main game popular is not in the expansion pack. All you get is a sewer with goblins, and another sewer with automatons.What the fuck happened? At least Bloodmoon was decent.
>>3953994SI > Dragonborn > Dawnguard > Bloodmoon > KotN > Tribunal
>>3953968I haven't played vanilla BM for a long time but yes the absolute grind you need to do just to walk a little bit in the wild was hilarious, I still like the werewolves because they are pretty much the only enemy in the game that can damage a late game PC. >>3953994The only thing that makes dawnguard tolerable is the new vampire and werewolf mechanics that gave modders a good base to work on. The quest sucks ass and the writing is abysmal. SI and Dragonborn arr the best DLCs by far for their content size and quality. KotN(as any fighter/warrior based quest) is boring. Won't even bother with tribunal it's really weird how in BM they decide to build an entire landmass while for this you essentially get a 3 cells "city" and lots of sewers.
>>3953952Let's not forget that the entire story of this DLC is you doing quests for two incompetent factions that both very clearly want to kill you but are to incompetent at doing anything.Also having you get chased by the strongest character in the game whenever you walk around the main plaza as a joke was also fucking retarded.The only cool thing was the Oblivion tease
Both expac are pretty bad which is fine, expacs are just bonus content. The base game should be the maine experience
>>3954102>>3954093>>3953994Dragonborn is good. Decent satisfying finale to the protag of Skyrim, ups your power level which is always nice, extremely varied locations which should be the main goal of additional content, giving the player more places to use endgame characters. I never liked how most of dawngaurd could have been in base game falmer caves. What is their even to complain about?
anybody played this kino? i'm playing it right now, it's pretty fun
>>3951999lame. the tanuki puzzle on the top floor of the dragon tower was also lost, the tl doesn't make any sense
>>3951599nono I know, I'm pretty sure the game doesn't use patches (are there even patches for 2k? I thought things like dyn and maniacs were 2k3 only).I just wanna take a look at how he scripted some things, take a peek at the database and the common events. May be valuable things to learn here thats all. Can't do that with just the .ini sadly.
>>3952285you can decompile maps/db with the easyrpg decompilers. ask grok or something
>>3952285If you don't already know that you can just drop any RPG_RT exe into the game folder and open the project in the RPG Maker editor like normal once it's in there, maybe you don't need to be doing this.
>>3951999actually the correct answer was the one you typed, the weird permutation was the hint
Why do zoomers treat this as a hidden gem now? It's literally the negative elements of Morrowind and Skyrim with none of the positives.
>>3935360Idk to be honest, they all have their strength and weaknesses. The combat is leagues better than Morrowind, not as good as Skyrim but it's not really that far off. It has a better speech system than both, I especially liked that during the DB quest line I had to bribe and use the speech mini game before they would give up information. Skyrims speech skill is worthless with characters having few dialogue options. Morrowind has a fuck ton of dialogue options but 75percent of them are repeats that you can have with any other character Your skills actually matter in oblivion, and while you can't jump to one of the 2 moons like Morrowind it is noticeable.
>>3954210>It has a better speech systemStopped reading here
>>3954146Games that require heavy modding to be sufficiently playable aren't games really worth getting into. Just play Oblivion as is, maybe only Unofficial Patch.
>>3954210>Skyrims speech skill is worthlessActually it's Mercantile and Speechcraft merged.
>>3935360wrong
All these hoes are useless in combat except Franklin and Virgil, I lost Sogg when entering the halfling gang cave and I couldn’t find him anymore but he was goated
>>3952882You can get them with master diplomacy no problem even if you're good. Except people that get into conflicts like raven and that dark elf chic.
>>3952887>AFAIK you can sort of solo the game with only Virgil anyway.Yes. Done so many times.>if you chose to play tech tree, then maybe you need the crafting healer.You can get 1 level into medicine and that would be enough, there are enough tech reanimators to res Virgil around.
>>3952413Sogg should be wherever you left him or back at the hotel/bar in the first town.
>>3952890What are you talking about? You can get both Raven and Z'an in the same party, as long as you have max persuasion and max charisma.
>>3952413>>3952572
Why do so many people say NWN1 is better? 2 has a much better story, much more reactivity in dialogue and quest outcome, companions w/ friendships, rivalries and romances, and so on.Compared to 2, NWN1 is just a glorified dungeon crawlerIs it just the old = better crowd?
>>3946105>muh respecShut up, fag.
>>3946105>>no respec capabilities, even when one of your companions CHANGES HIS CLASS due to a quest eventThat's fucking wrong you spreg. The dwarf goes back to a lvl one monk and you relvl him.
>>3946105Skill issue. Don't play og campaign.
>>3941444Outside the mods, the singleplayer are on par with each other across the board.
>>3941444> reactivity in dialogue and quest outcome, companions w/ friendships, rivalries and romances, and so on.Who cares? Both have shit gameplay and hence are shit games.
Zoomer here. Ultima 5 looks really cool to me but I don't really have any experience with the series.The oldest computer RPG I've played and finished (guide-less) is Wizardry 5.Will this game filter me or is it doable for one of the mutts?
>>3948035ScummVM
>>3948044ho lee shit thanks anon
>>3948044This needs to be pinned. Does it work for spin-off games?
https://kweepa.itch.io/unity-undergroundhere's your Ultima Underground remake, bro
>>3944864It's pretty hard starting fresh, but the easiest if you know what to do and travel solo.
What am I in for?
>>3940410It's weird is a game about Colonialism but I can't be a True Colonist/Conqueror is too nice, it's obviously made by French
>>3950230On the other side, if you played it, you know exactly why you cannot play rough with islanders.
>>3940410>What am I in for?Bioware on a budget with quite fun combat.
>>3944911>If you play Technomancer or Mars War Logs you can practically see "we want the Mass Effect audience" written on the walls.Interesting because i, and some of my friends, were interested in it coming from Fallout and wanting some more postapoc atmosphere in a more traditional RPG pack.Of Orcs And Men though, literally that but with Dragon Age audience. And it will never not warm my heart how its best character got a spinoff much more sucsesseful than the game itself.
Started the sequel, I like the new menu theme and the callback to the first's character creation. Not sure how I feel about the new combat desu, it's serviceable at least. Just broke out of the fort in Olima, will pick it up again tomorrow
What's the best game out of these 4?
>>3948728>Octopath II is fantastic. Anybody who dislikes either Octopath is a contrarian retard.Octopath 1 was boring and the character stories never coalesce. I've heard that Octopath II and 0 are far better, though and will give them a shot at some point.
>>39537182 is only marginally better, and uses almost the exact same formula. If you disliked the first game, you probably won't enjoy 2 either.
Why cant see capture the magic of BD1? Like apparently that director isnt even making games anymore
>>3954012I wonder how can some OT2 fans who said they hate OT1 just flipped from a 6/10 to a mastahpiece, best jrpg ever.I was swayed by those words, only to be disappointed.
>>3954121It's generally easier.
I'm currently playing it right now (finally) and oh my fucking God it's good. The negative reviews are greatly exaggerated. This sets a new standard for crpgs that we probably won’t ever see again from anybody besides Larian Studio. I think they found a niche here. What’s also interesting is why is BG3 more successful than Divinity? Is the lore just more interesting?
>>3953851>Did you play divinity?>you are farced to play two charactersIt's always astounding to me the number of zoomers who think that Larian sprang into existence with D:OS>t. thought they sucked since Divine Divinity
>>3953859Releasing a game with a name as terrible as 'Divine Divinity' should have consigned them to ignominy, in a just world.
>>3953863Yes. I could never take them seriously because of it. I completely forgot about them until D:OS2 came out and then I was like “oh fuck. These guys are still around somehow?”
>>3953839>I did it maybe 3 times I guessplaying and finishing this massive rpg even 2 times is a massive thumbs up for it lolI cant recall a game so long that I played twice lol>>3953863>>3953864That title was forced on them by their publisher at the time though lol
>>3954077I've done it twice for sure. Like I said, first game I killed most of the companions and played sort of neutral evil, and I didn't like the ending choices. Despite that, the game was still fun to play and there was a lot of things I could do differently, so my next game was the typical goodie two-shoes character I usually play in RPG's. I tried to play through it a third time, tried various builds, maybe it adds up to another half finished game. At any rate, I have zero desire to play it anymore, so it is what it is.
Tim Gayn's ludokino masterpiece
>>3953921>bumping a thread after the discussion had clearly diedWhich doesn't mean it can't be resumed anytime later. That's how bumps work, you know.>me replying isn't making it any more alive Oh, really? Anyway, thanks for keeping the thread on page 1 with your posts during the last 6 hours. Keep 'em coming.
>>3953957>Which doesn't mean it can't be resumed anytime later. That's how bumps work, you know.Right. And in the month that this thread has been being necrobumped, how much discussion has there been? How many valuable contributions?>Oh, really? Anyway, thanks for keeping the thread on page 1 with your posts during the last 6 hours. Keep 'em coming.Considering that the average archive time on this board is now over a week, no, six hours really won't make much of a difference. Especially since you've been bumping the thread regardless. You realise there are other ways of sorting this board than by bump order, I hope.Each post does get us one closer to the autosage, though. Two if you count your reply! You're welcome.
>>3953882>Right now you're spending your time on posting in a thread you don't like to seeI’ve enjoyed posting this thread and I like ToEE. The point is, if the discussion in a thread has died out, don’t be a selfish faggot and keep your thread bumped if you have nothing to add. If you want to keep the thread alive, contribute to the discussion with something other than nothing but the word “bump” like some cretin.
>>3875127Honestly I kind of wish we got more CRPGs in Greyhawk.I'm running Ghosts of Saltmarsh for my game table now which caused me to do a deep dive into the setting and there's a charm here that you don't see with FR. IE I just love the sparse lore and how you can clearly see that this was an intermediate between wargaming and TTRPGs.Dare I say it, Greyhawk is SOVL.
>>3954124Actually to elaborate further, since running the GoS module, I've fallen in love with the Sheldomar Valley/Basin as a TTRPG setting. It's ripe with inter-kingdom politics and a hotbed of conflict. Great for any DM to write their own scenarios in.For any DMs here, it's something to check out if the Sword Coast ever gets stale for you.
Do you think old runescape tweaked and modified for singleplayer would be a good rpg?
They would need to rework quests so that they aren't completely awful without a guide.
So just make it Ultima?
Isn't Fantasy Life kind of like RuneScape?
>>3953805wasting your time is so easy you dont need to actively pursue it. Play an RPG that was conceived as a complete story with a beginning and end and after you finish the game read a book or go walk in the park. You dont need to spend 10,000 hours collecting stats for the purpose of having something to do.
>>3953944All videogames are wasting time. Besides rs private servers already offer shit like 25x xp rates with massively cuts down grind.>>3953808>>3953814Are right in that it would need some major reworks to de-mmoify it. Some skills would need to be changed a little since PvP would no longer be a thing. Tweak NPC vendors, change the duel arena for single player, change cooperative quests, etc. It would need stuff to replace the social aspect so areas don't look empty or static and it can be as simple as adding more animations to things like trees and giving NPC's very simple routines. Maybe adding courier NPC's that run past you on main roads to give the impression the world is still alive and moving. You basically have 3/4 of a single player game but it still needs a lot of work.
Maybe I just find it easy to connect with this game but I'm kinda sitting here in awe of how well the visuals, music, story, and gameplay work in harmony to create a beautiful piece of art that is also a fun, chill and deep jrpg. Like I'm listening to exposure from the ost and it's literal waves of various emotions building up to an unbearable pressure that washes over you because Sam canonically remains in control of himself. There's legitimately a looot, a lot to say about the creative expression within this game that I'm not even going to explain it because the effort would be wasted on anything other than a well produced video essay that will earn me thousands of dollars (or that is plagiarized by a bigger channel to make them tens of thousands).
>>3955843I don't think Sam is the kind of guy to kiss his son on the forehead
>>3955843No Sophie either ? Cringe
How do you even trigger kisses. I updated but it don't work
>>3956275Try a new save, it usually only triggers if the encounter is fresh
>>3956280Ohhh, okay thanks.
So it’s been a while since this game was released, what do you think of it? Is it a good remake? Would you recommend this version or WotL?
>>3952867>with the WoTL content added via modsThey added all that? Like the extra missions, events and jobs?
>>3953341Nope, all they added so far is some of the classes.
>>3926046WotL emulated on PPSSPP is the definitive experience.
>>3953993Fuck no.
>>3926052fpbp/thread
The Great Debate
>>3948170now a goon is someone who edges a lot, so it's no wonder.kids love to apply terms way too broadly and undermine their effect, everything being "trannyshit", like modding or speedrunning and now even number go up autism, is retarded.
Inxile (Wasteland 3 and Clockwork Revolution), Obsidian (Avowed and TOW2), Bethesda (Starfield), and Playground Games (Fable reboot) for me.
>>3947938You liked the DOS2 writing but you can't pay attention to the Wrath writing???Either you're lying or you need to make an appointment with your neurologist to get a brain scan immediately.
>>3947174And Keldorn.
>>3953963Bait used to be believable
Challenge:Name the most recent RPG where female characters can not under any circumstances, be tanky characters or warriors or have higher strength than men.I'll start: Final Fantasy IV, 1992
>>3935936Omori (2020)
>>3935936>I love the fantasy genre but I will piss and shit my britches if it ever portrays a world that even slightly differs from my political worldview
>>3945071Based
>>3935936PersonaEvery human female character in Persona 3, 4 and 5 have lower STR and END stats than any of the male human teammates of the same age.It is much more common than you make it seem.
>>3935936Dragon Quest VIII
