The pathfinder series is a kino vrpg of the highest order. And I've never pretended otherwise. We all know all good things come in three !So, when will Owlcat deliver a third game?
>try owlcat game>spend more time planning a character than playing the game>restart 50 times until I find a build that I can stick with>quit after 10 hours because the actual gameplay is assthis has happened three timesim not sure why I don't learn my lesson
>>3974676SameI don't mind though, character creation is fun
>>3974652i didnt play the visual novel part of the game where you have sex with an onlyfans used up demon slut or have gay sex with some orc faggot, and I played the disgustingly braindead combat encounters, and that means I didnt play the game?so according to you the real game is the part with the faggot orc sex right?
>>3974650>dispell virginsyou are supposed to ramp up the BAB of your cavalry company and beat everyone down from the saddles of your good boysBismuth and Aivu are honorary good boys and ascend with the party on secret ending
>>3974564>does the game that is 90% about fighting demons give you any hint to what you will encounterNo, it's all guesswork and reloading.
I've got something of an odd itch that's almost hard to describe because it seems so underused in games.You know how so many rpgs give you a central goal or motivation to pursue, often with a set party of established characters but not always, and on the way you're taken across a variety of regions and locations friendly and unfriendly alike. Sometimes it gives you wriggle room to explore around and check out places that don't directly relate to the main goal but overall the tide drags you towards that main goal and big bad and that ending.I want to know if there's any RPGs that are nothing but the world exploration and dungeon delving.Basically that there is absolutely no plot or goal, and your adventuring band is just venturing out to discover things and get rich. The world just exists, perhaps with some random shifting factors to keep it fresh but no actual end goal or ending, and the motivation to find locations and dungeons and such is just to see what's there and what's to be found there.More meat to it and it's world then a roguelike, even less goals and direction then an Elder Scrolls (although I've heard Daggerfall has elements that support what I'm thinking of), perhaps more emphasis on needing to prepare and gather supplies for particular ventures.Does this actually exist in any form? Is it an untouched niche that someone should jump on? Or is it something that sounds better in my head but wouldn't actually be fun or keep attention if manifest?
>>3964208>HammerfellYou were never worthy
>>3963212LOL
>>3963212>>3964307Holy shit the freaks wriggled their way into that project as well?!Modern game dev is the embodiment of the dog in the flaming room meme.
>>3964625Really puts Jul's final statement to the team in a new light
>>3951090>I want to know if there's any RPGs that are nothing but the world exploration and dungeon delving.Diablo 1 would count for this, I think
The last Final Fantasy game with an overworld map came out in 2000.
Checking in to make sure everything is going my way here
Why doesn't the map in FF15 count? The only difference functionally is that there's no load between fights, the map and dungeons.Not getting into the quality of it all though because that's a different can of worms.
>>3974838*shrill, terrified scream*
overworlds were a meme
>>3975250You are a meme.
Elements edition.Gears, Saga, Blade... what have you.Will Takahashi rip off Arthur Clark for the fourth time in a row?
>>3975762There's also the translation patch for XC2 if someone wants to use it https://gbatemp.net/threads/xenoblade-2-delocalization-retranslation-patch.667076/
It's uphttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4532150/GMODE/
Nothing major but the producer of Xenosaga does acknowledge the greater "Xeno" franchisehttps://info.gmodecorp.com/gmodearchives/comment/
>>3977138I meant that he acknowledged they're all connected and that Saga is soft-canon to Blade.
>>3879108New thread >>3977348
Am I still allowed to like this game or did it become too popular and win too many awards and therefore it's bad now?
>>3971831>>3973418This. It's the biggest issue with every RPG. You become a god by the end of the game and no end boss is challenging.
>>3973963Rent free lol. When I see a thread about a game I don't like I just ignore it like a normal person, not interact with it.
>>3941113What build should i make for Gustave?
>>3974711The one that lets you parry better.
>8 million sales in a yearNot bad for a turn cringe jrpg
rpgs peaked when gameplay was the focus, pic related.it's been downhill ever since they went heavy on narrative, dialogue, menus, systems.
>>3964124You mean arcadechads?
>>3964160Arcade? Oh you mean xbox live arcade
>>3963121Based
^lol, what a dweeb
>>3963121Modern RPGs have more gameplay that whatever that might be
I made a post a while back about how I wasn't exactly having a blast with the Sega Saturn. I had picked up Panzer Dragoon Zwei and Nights Into Dreams, but neither game gave me that "wow" factor of owning a Saturn like I had hoped. While at a convention, I found a complete in box Burning Rangers--one of the games I dreamed of owning when I picked the Saturn up--and being a big fan of sunk cost fallacies, I decided to get itFor anyone who has seen my posts on this board, it started with me not feeling too great about my Sega Saturn purchase (thank you for not completely destroying me for that one)
>>3969482God forbid we talk games here>>3969471How'd you find that gem
>>3969471When Sonic Team developed Nights into Dreams, they were new to programming for the Sega Saturn, and when the engine was re-used for Burning Rangers they were able to make it faster and more capable
>>3969471Did you photoshop yourself into a kfc or are you just THAT black brotha
>>3973798This is the RPG board, you incompetent faglord, none of the games OP mentioned are even RPG's, and he's been posting multiple variations of this exact same thread on /vr/ for WEEKS. get the FUCK off my board
Which JRPG would you say is best in regard to storytelling?
>>3974524*Annoying Jar Jar: Over 2 hours. Sure, not always center stage. Sure, other characters distract from. etc.Again. I'm tired, boss.
>>3974508>still making it sound like Luke knew exactly what was going to happen and still went along with itand this is why no one here takes Abyss "fans' seriously
>>3974632>making it sound like Luke knew exactly what was going to happenMaking it sound like Luke put himself in a position with a hundred thousand red flags, the culmination of all his past douchy actions catching up with him. Why does the party react differently to Ion? Or to Anise, later on? Luke didn't want any accountability for not listening and going off on his own. It wasn't just that he destroyed Akzeriuth, but that he based his actions on what others said and never tried to understand the situation for himself. The whole reason it happened was because of Luke's blind trust in Van despite the clear evidence he wasn't a good person.>this is why no one takes Abyss "fans' seriouslySounds to me like you're projecting your personal insecurities over a generally beloved videogame, anon. Sounds rather rough tbqhwyf.
>>3974722>the culmination of all his past douchy actions catching up with him.How so? Zelos being killed by the party for "joining the winning side" when he betrays them is "the culmination of all his past douchey actions catching up with him."Luke getting trucked by someone he trusted? Not related to his douchey actions
>>3974846>How so?The party wouldn't have abandoned him had he not been an utter brat for almost half a year of traveling together. Had he been a Cless or a Lloyd or a Guy or a Jude and had he then reacted exactly the same after Akzeriuth, they would've understood it as a psychotic break and been there for him as friends, at least those closest like Guy, Natalia and Tear. It's the fact it was the culmination, the last straw of everything that came and every way in which he had acted before that made them all dismiss him entirely because, how the fuck could you not. It's not a coincidence that the writers had him be at his worst right beforehand, with both how he treats Ion in Deo Pass and how he treats the sick miners in Akzeriuth.
You either love it, hate it, or are indifferent to it.
I think the story is pretty generic and Asbel is not really interesting as an MC but the game has Sophie and Pascal (+ Hubert as a hononary mention) and it's very fun to play so it's 7-8/10 for me
>>3962186better than Zestria and Legendia
>>3974458also better than Symphonia, Symphonia 2, Abyss, Vesperia, Xillia, Xillia 2, Tempest, Innocence, Innocence R, Hearts R, Berseria, and Arise
>>3971853>Swordian DevicesI just had everyone master random filler shit on mobs and use the important ones for bosses. Make sure you beat them on Hard or above for extra DP. Eventually you'll master so much stuff that you'll have enough CC to work with.>LensYeah, its annoying. However, you almost never need to buy armor from the shop so it balances out. You just need to find out/look up which armor tree has the stuff that you want and follow that path to the end.I dont know if you know this already but accessories actually influence your growth in DC. So contrary to common sense, you actually want to wear the ones that correspond to your worst non sub stat(s). Stahn with 2x Green crits a hell of a lot more for example.
>>3962186Indifferny
What does /vrpg/ think of the Suikoden games and how do they compare to other PS1 era RPGs? The only ones I played was the second and third game many years ago so I might pick up that remaster released a while ago.
>>3974610It definitely redeems Lazlo for meI hate him in 4 with his blank porcelain doll stare in every scene but hes a good character in Tactics. Hes really laid back but its because hes so competent and strong he knows he doesn't need to worry about problems, and its nice to see other characters recognize him as that good too.
>>3966732Is saga frontier 2 or star ocean 1,2 remake good?
>>3967198>concept is top tierThe old saga games are all like that
>>3967233>worse QoL than emulatorslol yeah right
>>3966614I've only played Suikoden 2 and it was kamige. No other JRPG compares.
Why do zoomers treat this as a hidden gem now? It's literally the negative elements of Morrowind and Skyrim with none of the positives.
>>3972440>oblivion is fucked dogshit!!>*goes on to play oblivion for 5000 hours more*Bros what makes Oblivion so gosh darn good ya just can't stop playing?
>>3935373>reduced armor/weapon classes (not reduced variety) was also a good change.this heavily reduced variety. I don't know how you can say that. Morrowind has one of the best dress up systems in a RPG. being able to put a robe over armor is amazingI can only count on one hand how many games have clothing layers and one one of the other ones is fucking Fallout 4
>>3935641>goofy combat and dorky animations.>shitty factionsall three of these apply to Oblivion
The scaling is poo poo
>>3935360oblivion is flawed but the quests are 10/10the problems are shit like level scaling and copy paste dungeonsid want a game with oblivion quests and skyrim gameplay and world design
Are healers an outdated concept?No matter how diverse your class system is, you always need a character that specializes in restoring HP. It cuts down on variety because no matter how you build your party, 95% of party builds need this archetype of character.On top of that, there is very little variation between different types of healers. Some games attempt different types, like damage restoration vs damage mitigation, but they all basically have the same gameplan.
>>3974460Tank is a fake role for games that don't have real positioning.
>>3974460MMO trinity is dogshit.
>>3973908Oh no, you don't understand. He wasn't an action guy at all!
>>3965543What the fuck is this retarded post? It's entirely trivial to design a game that doesn't rely on healers. In fact, most games ever made don't have healers.It's only shitty grinding games where everything is a battle of attrition with a dozen random encounters between every safe haven where a healer is required, and even then you could still add alternative aways to regain health like lifesteal, regeneration, fucking health potions, etc.
>>3974785>What the fuck is this retarded post?It's a bait post attempting to get replies and generate discussion. Were you born yesterday.
is anyone playing this?
>>3969933I am not paying 20 dollars for a game I can't even test in this economy. >inb4 poorfagGas money is too damn high dude.
>>3969939>>3969939If I remember correctly, there was a demo previously, but I think it was taken down. Maybe it doesn't represent the final product anymore?And overall, yeah the 20 dollar tag is a bit too much for a game of this kind for me as well, I hope they do regional pricing if they ever release it on steam.
I've got pretty far in. I'd be enjoying it more if it wasn't so clunky. Stuff like the alchemy system involves going through half a dozen text boxes 18 times per visit if you're going up to the limit for each character.
>>3969911Do ranged attacks also scale off STR, I wonder?
>>3974716Nevermind, this cutie told me.
Go crazy with it. Imagine you have unlimited resources and time. I'll start. >Large sandbox RPG >Set in Roman Empire during 3rd century crisis>Large focus on historical authenticity >Basically Red Dead Redemption meets Kingdom Come: Deliverance, but set in 3rd century Rome and with character customisation >Gigantic scale sandbox comprising the entire Roman empire plus some fringe areas like Germania>Choice of starting province and profession to determine race, skills and starting loot>Start as a mercenary (in place of gangster/outlaw)>Recruit crew, take contracts, choose between special story missions for generals to influence the outcome of the game>Buy land, property, slaves, equipment>Create passive income with slave farmers, whores, gladiators etc>Gain status through achievements, sacrifices, donations, marriage etc>End game is to become a general and help restore Rome
>>3930405Play 457AD mod, it's relatively new for Warband so you might've missed out on it.
>>3930436>An actual zelda rpgLike what>new gameI'm hesitant to even draft a game if it's not woke, chances are you'll get cancelled?
>>3930323Shill me your resident evil clone ideas, as obviously all clones are shit and barely serviceable at the very best, like tormented souls, the Swiss cheese plot.
>>3950401I too want a gunslinger girl rpg
>>3930323Icewind Dale but with combat and RPG system that don't suck ass.
I DARE you to name a game with worse dungeon design than this. Every single dungeon in PSII has the same obnoxious gimmick. Two or more floors that all link back and forth through dozens of staircases with an extremely high random encounter rate slowing all progress to a crawl.Good fucking lord. I'd rather play Wizardry IV.
Stop replying to this cunt
>>3966659Shin Megami Tensei if... World of Sloth is the worst dungeon I have ever seen.
>>3967075>the series kept making its dungeons smaller and shittier in later gamesThey took it too far. The games feel empty with just tiny shitty dungeons. I miss the big caves and pushing rocks, personally.
>>3966659The dungeon layout on Evolution: The World of Sacred Device is also very bad
>>3966659Phantasy Star 2 has good dungeons, but the high encounter rate does suck.
