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>normal attack
>bonus action
>extra attack from class feature
>extra attack from pact of the blade
>four attacks per turn
>dual wielding uses bonus action for the offhand weapon
>only get one bonus action per turn
>you dual wield once, then stab with your main hand two extra times
>only thieves get to dual wield like an actual dual wielder because of the bonus bonus action
Most BG3 threads devolve into the same 2 or 3 talking points, so let's have an autistic mechanics thread. Are there any other game mechanics that trigger your tism?
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>>3938551
A line that stuck with me from the BG3 credits. "Thanks to my friend so-and-so, who told me more about the first two games than I ever needed to know."
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>>3938604
My "arbitrary hyperspecific restrictions" are being able to differentiate between main plot and subplots, that's it.
But fair enough, you don't want to engage, so cheers it is.
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>>3938519
None of this maters since you either save the world or conquer the world, and chosing the second makes EVERYTHING meaningless.
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Planning a Deep Gnome Supremacist run. Wulbren is right; its time to kill THE FUCKING GONDIANS.
But the good fight against THE FUCKING GONDIANS will need allies. Who should I recruit? Who should I ally?
Obviously I'll have to save Barcus even though he's a lil' bitch because he's kin. Plus he won't save THE FUCKING GONDIANS if I kill them first
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>>3923399
>Resting with sausages cures dislocated joints and broken bones and 3° burns is stupid.
Anon, the baseline D&D assumption is that any damage that your HP can soak is damage that doesn't leave lasting consequences. It's all scraps and bruises and exhaustion and the system doesn't have an actual lingering injury mechanic.

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Imma finna say it. Morrowind is a boring fucking game. Absolutely way too slow.. The nicest thing I will say is that the combat is fine. It's just dice rolling combat, fine. But moving from location to location without fast travel is PAIN. Secondly, your stamina bar is fucking bullshit. Everything is so so slow. Every second I'm wasting my time for noooo fucking reason. THIRDLY, you boomers lied to me. Yall said Morrowind was bigger than Oblivion and Skyrim that's a load of shit.

Morrowind is overrated as fuck. And boomers cannot comprehend that this game aged like dogshit. I will say that I'm sure the game was fun for it's time. But now? Absolute dogshit.
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>>3941959
>>if that's how you think you'll have the most fun playing, go for it.
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>>3941960
It won't be necessary since I'm not doing another mage playthrough in Morrowind.
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>>3941964
My n'wah, play the game (or don't play it) whatever way you want.
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>>3941966
Thanks sera
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>>3941967
Wealth beyond measure.

Which is stronger, SEED or SOLDIER?
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>shipping disguised as powerscaling thread
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>>3939837
Just bring me back my space station, its Death Machine and Bahamut going full commando with its weapons on Tiamat and I’ll be happy.
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>>3937042
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>>3937042
my SEED in your SOLDIER!
anyway. i guess seed, since they're trained since childhood and soldier is just good bc of >>3937134
i still don't like FF8
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>Rinoa believes only SeeD can save her
>Ultemcia believes only SeeD can stop her

Kino

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8 is my favorite when I was a kid (I know, 8 fans know it sucks, but we like the story fuck off)

9 was my first (going to play that one next)

12 I recently replayed and very much enjoyed but didn't REALLY love it

Playing X Currently, I fogot how fucking TIGHT the design of this game is, I'm not doing broken shit, I'm switching guys in and out every battle. Just did the first Seymore Fight (Where he summons Anima) I legit had trouble with it, had to think formulate a stratagey.

I didn't appreciate it when I was a kid, but X's design is SO FREAKING TIGHT, and I get the experience of using every party member, I know people mock 10 for things (most of which are flaws there only because of the limitations of the technology of its time) but damn, this game is so freaking good and I'm having the most fun I've had with a videogame in a while

so FFX? is this slept on?

(My PS4 broke and I can't afford a PS5, so I've been going retro this past year, and this is the most fun I've had with a game so far)
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>>3940060
At what point did you unlock Holy?
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>>3940071
It always depends. You play this game as much as I have and you realize that if a character doesn't get participation AP because they died, got petrified... you whoopsed and have forgotten to give them any AP throughout Mi'ihen because you got lost in the sauce...?

Well it doesn't really matter because the Monster Arena will fix any issues later, and of course by that time Kimahri really doesn't matter, his overdrives just aren't that great at that point.

Not only that, but before that gauntlet of the game between just before the first Seymour through to the 2nd Seymour fight... I like to grind a bit for Petrify Grenades. Sometimes I spend enough time to get Stoneproof on 3 armors which is 60 grenades. Sometimes I go further and get some Stonetouch weapons too.

All this skews.

Let's say I'm going super casual? ... by the time Yuna leaves the party I'd say it's fair to have 40ish sphere levels. Probably more, but let's just say for the sake of argument. Kimahri then has Dispel, Curaga, and is past Regen which makes Kimahri and excellent healer.
I have, however, gotten Holy before the first Seymour fight and it didn't take too much extra effort. But is that representative? I dunno, you tell me. Some people just want to get through the game ASAP and others want to mess around with Blitz for an hour.
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>>3940075
Thanks, that's interesting. I didn't realize jumping in from Rikku's grid would be such a shortcut.

Btw do you know if the damage from grenades and such scales with any stats?
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>>3940095
>Btw do you know if the damage from grenades and such scales with any stats?
Other than luck for crits, they don't.
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>>3916082
>so FFX? is this slept on?
No, I hated everything about it from the preview material before it launched, and then when I actually got my hands on it, it became my favourite FF by the end and is still one of my top vidya of all time. The PAL/International version in particular is amazing. X2 was really good gameplay wise as well. I'd rate VII, X and X-2 the best in the series by far for optional content and probably the best optional content in any jrpg.

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What JRPG remaster/remakes, not counting FF7:Remake, do you consider better than the originals or as the definitive version? It just seems like nowadays every JRPG is getting an update and I wonder how many of them are actually worth the effort people put into them.
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>>3941355
>fucked balancing
Sounds like gen2 to me.
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>>3940297
interesting, I came here to say the GBC remakes of dragon quest are best.
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>>3940268
Trials of Mana
Metal Max Returns
Metal Max 2 Reloaded
Every SaGa remake and remaster. Literally all of them.
Ys I-II Chronicles
Ys Oath in Felghana
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>>3941355
Only thing I can say is that it's easy to be spoiled by the faster game speeds of the later games and it makes the Gameboy ones annoying to play today but otherwise I also think the remakes completely lost the plot in regards to what the original was about. It feels like they put in a shitton of effort but the final game is more of a "sidemake" than something that embodies the spirit of the originals.
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>>3940381
I mean... I could argue that for several of tales games. I'm not saying it's a bad record but there absolutely are some stinkers in the mix - and to be completely fair a lot of that is just an issue with mobile ports. Looking at GBA Phantasia and 3DS Abyss. And then there's Symphonia which kinda fucked itself after GCN by going down to 30 fps for PS2 and then using that as the basis for all its other ports.

The recent steam ports - GracesF (though the original Graces F was a good improvement), Xillia, and now Berseria (which was already on steam and frankly hardly changed and I don't know why anyone would bother with it and...) are okay but they're almost entirely just for people who never played the originals and never will. Which is nice to have, but there's no reason for people like me to ever touch them.

But that said, they do have some really great ones - Destiny DC and Vesperia Definitive for example. And I've heard good things about Hearts R and Innocence R, though I've never played them myself.

>>3941355
Having played the GBC games as a kid, I can admit there's a certain appeal to them that the older games lost. But also I can guarantee that I'll never play a pokemon game without the Gen3+ PC boxes / inventory UI improvements so it's kinda moot.

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This game is extremely underrated, if you like JRPG's that give you a lot of freedom like DQ3 you'll love this one
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>>3940632
Why play a cheap copy of something I already played that's better
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>>3937878
Someone else should just finish it like the Persona 2 translation in PSP.
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They turned Doctor Mince into a fucking catgirl
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>>3940971
she's actually an android
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>>3940972
I don't think she is, but I can see where you would get the idea from the English translation.
She's called an artificial or synthetic being a couple times (including in this screenshot) but if she was an android it wouldn't make sense for her to contain cat DNA.
Which means synthetic would probably be more accurate as synthesized, as in a combination of multiple things, in this case human and cat.

>Goes on the greatest redemption arc in videogame history and mogs your favorite shit RPG
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>>3925785
AAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
No.
No Man's Sky
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>>3925785
>greatest redemption arc in videogame history
Aren't you forgetting about Starfield?
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>>3925785
pee pee poo poo, poo poo pee pee, pee poo pee poo pee *fart noises*
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>>3938693
>No Man's Sky
Is still shit
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>>3925785
It was good from the beginning, they mostly just had botched console performance so the consolefags were mad.

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So, I've been tooling around with RPG Maker (MV) I've built a pretty good resource set that lets me build an 8-bit Atari graphics game. (I've posted here a few times) working on this as a little side project and plan to release for free

The idea is a Bioware-like game, but told in atari graphics.

I've been experimenting and I've actually learned some pretty creative things you can do with little squares to humanize them and help immersion and suspension of disbelief

I don't want to bite off more then I can chew so thinking of keeping this simple, a little 10 hour game

Act 1- Introduce the party members, the villians, set up the story

Act 2- Chrono Trigger style, from the beginning of act 2 there is the option to go and fight the dragon if you think you're ready. It would be an open world (Hard to pull off in RPGM but I have ideas) while doing this you're also fulfilling social missions, developing world ect. 3 of the allies are women and I'm working on you being able to romance one of your choice.

Act 3- Take the airship to Death Mountain and get the most challenging gauntlet of battles in the game before the big dragon boss fight.

I'm still writing and story comes first for this, but a few questions I want to source some feed back on

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>>3934697
Hey, Op here, I had a demo and floated it out but got no dowlands, I fucked up the source file and accidently made the game unplayable so I had to rebuild from beginning

I decided to buld another story, and while I learned a lot from building it, the narritave was too constrictive to be viable for the response I'm seeking, so I'm back to square one, I am working on this and will post demo here once I have it
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>>3933971
I’m over 40 and this kind of thing triggers Gen-X and literal-Boomer nostalgia, not mine. Find out where all the 50-and-over crowd hangs out.
>>3935819
Ganbatte and good luck
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>>3933148
Is it just me or did you make a thread before this one on the same subject? I wanted to read it but for some reason lost the tab. Keep us posted anon, I like your project.
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Where is OP?
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bump

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I only played the .hack//G.U. remake, and I couldn't continue past the second volume. Out of all the games I dropped, this was probably the one I loved the most. It's just so full of a certain PS2-era charm that doesn't exist anymore, and every now and then I get an itch to go give it another try.

Now, the reason I dropped it was because the gameplay loop became too excruciatingly boring, and the fact that I was overleveled all the time didn't help at all. But with the .hack//ZERO announcement I'm actually starting to consider going through the entire series, starting with the IMOQ games. Is this a wise decision, or should I just stick with the G.U. remake? Enlighten me, wise anons!
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Just finished Infection, gonna be starting up Mutation hopefully tomorrow. Game is weird and not really a fan of the micro managing but the setting and story is keeping me compelled.
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>>3941265
You'll always have to micro manage unfortunately and it becomes even more necessary since elemental weaknesses get more important and the AI only likes abusing them probably 70% of the time. Also remember to watch the corresponding Liminality episode after you finish a game.
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>>3941290
Is there items and/or skills that can be multi-targeted for my party? Like a better La Repth for recovery or a better means to buff my party instead of one at a time? If there is better spells and/or items later id feel a bit better with the micro managing.
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>>3941659
There aren't any multi-target buffs but there are higher tier multi-target heals. The other characters still have to be somewhat close to the main target to get healed though. I personally never really used the buff spells, I just bought the buff items from the shop. They're instant cast with no animation unlike the spells so it doesn't take too long to apply them to everyone and it's not committal.
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>>3941709
I generally have been buying buff items too when I felt the need but they do take up some of the inventory, so was kind of hoping there would be something to help with that. But think ill just have to suck it up and keep pressing forward through Mutation for now.

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I liked naoto from Persona 4, i think It was a great character.
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>>3938977
Boooo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCiGqyEErho
>Mythical Pope woman crossdressing as a man
>Zero connection to Naoto - crossdressing as a man.

It's big brain time.
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>>3938968
I think
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>>3938972
Mitsuru's eventually gets the Artemisia persona.
Based off Artemisia I of Caria. The advisor to Xerxes in the 300 movie, and queen of Halicarnassus.

I'm not quite sure where the gender-bending comes from, but Halicarnassus in Final Fantasy also uses it.
There's also the theory that FF8's Ultimecia was supposed to be spelled Artemesia, but I won't get into that here.

Sousei's persona is Tsukuyomi. Which is Japanese lunar deity. That would have been much more significant in Persona 3, which focused on the phases of the moon, and where Nyx's body was. And that the gimmick of P3 was the "Dark Hour" when the shadows come out.
Everything shutdown during the dark hour, except for "special" machines created by the kirijo group, such as Mitsuru's bike and their anti-shadow androids. Sousei is just the combination of those things.

P4 had the "midnight channel" instead of the "dark hour".
While the Persona x Detective Naoto manga has the "midnight site" a forum where 5 judges pass judgement. Likely inspiring P5's Phantom Thieves concept, who also made announcements through a website.
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FF8Schizo out of absolute nowhere
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Naoto is cute but I pick rise

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best game to experience for the purest form of love?
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>>3939997
Thumbnail made it look like her bust was huge... major disappointment.
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>>3939824
Look no further than Lunar 1.
>Alex and Luna
An epic tale of falling in love with your older sister.
>Kyle and Jessica
Demonstrate how toxic true love can be.
>Nash and Mia
Show us how a worthless weeb like you can devote all of your love and feelings only to be permanently friend zoned by girl who is mid at best.
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>>3939824
this >>3935657 ...
the caveman scenario
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>>3941396
>Drops mic
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>>3941386
>Falling in love with older sister.
Kek. Any other explanation would be tl;dr.
>Toxic love of Chad and Stacy.
Kek. Best parts of the game in fact.
>Becky friend zones weeb.
All the fucking keks.

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Should I finally get it?
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>>3939214
She's great, I love her work.
It's such a shame that Xebec is dead and we'll never see a potential SaGa anime by them with her as the key animator or director.
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Is that you, xbox game protagonist?
Man I hated you back in the day but didn't know how much MUCH worse vidya protags could be... no hard feelings?
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Which are the best party members to recruit? Also how do I recruit the robot girl?
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>>3941212
It's all about the stats, the classes themselves are pretty defined by them. Salamanders are typically great for everything except speed, but in general you'll want to look up everyone's stats and spark type on the blogspot and choose what's ideal for your party and formation.

Now no more bumping the thread, I want to make a dedicated SaGa general.
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>>3941212
>party members
In the remake you're encouraged to try a lot of classes to learn passive abilities so you shouldn't worry about picking the best ones at first. You can see their stats and swap between characters easily so pick whoever your current team needs.
If you want to minmax the strongest team on NG++ you'll want the characters with the highest offensive stats and useful abilities.
In the original/remaster the male court mage is highly recommended early on. Beyond that it doesn't really matter.
You'll also want different characters as emperor so you can learn formations. In the remake the ones that have good formations are: martial artist, strategist, corsair, imperial guard, dancer
In the original/remaster the good formations are: corsair, amazon

>doll
The inventor in Somon makes her ~500 years after the start of the game. This will likely happen in the remake, but in the original RS2 there's a high chance you'll finish the game first (since fewer years pass during timeskips and you have no incentive to fight battles).

Name a better action RPG from the "stick to wall third person camera shooter era". You cannot.

In fact, if we had a proper remaster that removes the subhuman tier minigames that break the flow of the game and would still ruin everything even if you didn't have to struggle with mouse controls during hacking & lockpicking top 5 action RPG of all time. ALL TIME!

But who was the ALPHA in ALPHA PROTOCOL?
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>>3886290
If you dont follow the story exactly how the devs want you to, you get soft locked

They kinda reinforce this with their replies to steam discussions
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>>3890747
Put points into Tech, and bring lots of EMPs. You really only need to bring the Sound Generator, and you can load the rest of your inventory with EMPs. You just need to do the simple ones, and then just EMP the ones above 8 and some 7s if you're not fast enough.
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>>3931431
that sounds nothing like raiden
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Why is shooting from cover on the left so much worse than shooting from cover on the right? Worst gunplay I've ever seen in a 3rd person over the shoulder camera game.
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>>3941672
He’s not an ambiturner

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This game is actually really great as long as you go into it knowing it's very different from the first two.
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Great game. I wish the later Trails games had kept the quality of the first five.
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>>3941512
It's a very good entry but it filters people who don't like that it's a lot more gameplay focused than the first two. I actually really enjoyed the dungeon crawler aspect.
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>>3941540
People tend to forget those games released in 2000s so they were basically PS2-era titles. First Cold Steel came out in 2013 and was a modern JRPG with all the good and bad that entailed.
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>>3941512
It actually ended up being my favorite in the trilogy.
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>>3941555
>2013
the 2010s weren't kind on jrpgs, most titles from that time were pretty bad, cold steel was one of the better ones even

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So I've always wanted to play DQIX (moslty because I really like Level 5, and it's one of the few DS RPGs I've yet to touch). But the whole multi-player thing has pushed me away from the title for a long time, despite the fact you can play the game entirely in single player.
Is the game worth playing alone? Is the multi-player component really that important?
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>>3941636
It's an okay game but it's my least favorite dragon quest. Going from 8 to 9 was a huge dissapointment. Not even 11 really compared with 8s scale.

I feel like they haven't remastered 8 because square knows they could never make a new HD dragon quest that good.
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>>3941636
It fucking sucks. It's DQ8 except with DQ3's party so all the attempts at emotional storytelling and shit are blunted by your fucking no personality mannequinns not reacting to anything.


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