Hardest JRPG ever?
>>3696659Not even the hardest megaten game, that goes to Strange Journey.
>>3696659No.Not even close.
>>3696719Nah, kid.
>>3696729>nuh-uhWhat are you, a kindergarten?Anyways, SMT4:A is the hardest retail RPG.
>>3696748Nope, sorry! No nu-"SMT" is anywhere among the hardest.
>>3696659>play on hard mode>enter the first corridor with pretas, before you get any companions>get fucked over by unlucky crits and misses>thrice>there is no counterplay, even speedrunners have to deal with RNG bullshitDropped it right then and there.
>>3696719/threadDDS: MT (NES) would also be an acceptable answer, for different reasons
I think its reasonably difficult aside from the mentioned rng bad luck for the first 20 minutesI cant imagine that there arent a bunch of more difficult jrpgs on hardest difficulty
>>3696759>Nope, sorry!What are you, a fag?
>>3696777goo goo gah gah!!!!!!!
>>3696759This post implies that SMT classic isn't the easiest series of dungeon crawlers in existence
>>3696659Fuck no.
>>3696777>play on hard mode>game is hardwoah no way...
>>3697005Here's your difficult game, bro.
>>3696748>SMT4:A is the hardestHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Okay maybe on War difficulty, and only because it facefucks the compendium.
>>3696748I don't remember 4:A having any notable difficulty on the base settings
>>3696659Should I bother fusing more demons if I'm just aiming to reach the ending? I'm at the Fourth Kalpa but haven't entered ToK. Things seem alright at the moment, just beat Beelzebub without much issue. Cerberus has Dark Might I whip him out during boss fights just for free turns.
>>3697120>Should I bother fusing more demons if I'm just aiming to reach the ending?Which one? If you're going for TDE on hard mode you're gonna want to fuse pierce on all your demons so they can do actual damage to the final boss. I recommend fusing a Harlot like this except replace bolt storm with pierce.I've only ever played hard on the PS2 version, no idea how much easier normal and the remake version are.
>>3697135Just TDE on normal, no plans to do NG+ or completing the compendium. Basic bitch stuff hence why I'm asking.>PierceIs it really necessary to fuse it onto the demons? You need to be lvl 95 to fuse Metatron and buy the Girimehkala with it, right?
>>3697163You'll be well over 99 by the end of the game.
>>3696659>Cast Sukukaja>Become invincible
>>3696659it's 100% trial and error. every boss has some gimmick, and you either go into the fight with the counter to the gimmick, or you don't and then reload after you die.
>>3696659no, not at allthis was maybe the first jrpg with any real difficulty a lot of people played so it got exaggerated heavily because of itmatador is a real wakeup call for anyone playing it, but once you've figured out how to beat him you've figured out how to beat the rest of the game.you can otherwise trivialize the game by just not fusing your demons blindly and by resummoning your old demons to do sacrificial fusions and spamming the fusion selections to ensure they inherit key skills like the MP regen ones and will keep having access to useful magic like healing spells and buffs instead of whatever random shit they start with. Once you are doing that the difficulty largely just comes down to fighting a boss once and dying to it so you can see what kind of attacks it has.
>>3697163You can easily just use the main character and Dante to attack, and use your other 2 demons for healing/buffing duty. Dante's skill set is very limited though, only bringing dekunda to the table so this means you will need to put basically every other skill you will need on those other 2 demons as you don't want to waste turns doing anything but focus/freikugel with the main character unless its absolutely necessary.
>>3696777The problem with Atlus difficulty options is that they balance the game around one difficulty and then the others just add a multiplier to the formulas. It's lazy as shit and makes the other difficulties have terrible balance. At least Etrian Odyssey is balanced around the hardest difficulty, which was the only difficulty in the original games.
It’s probably some early 80s game where nothing makes any damn sense and everything one shots you.
>>3696659SaGa series makes SMT look like Pokemon in terms of difficulty.
>>3697167>>3697245So my options are like>MC with pierce/focus/freikugel alone w/ buff party for slow Lucy fightOr>Grind and fuse pierce onto everyone for quick and painless Lucy fight.Idk if the latter is worth it just for TOK.. I guess I'll clear first 5th Kalpa first then see what lvl i end up at.
7th Saga is the hardest jRPG I've beat because it's so fucking tedious and the US release was significantly harder than the JP version because they gimped the player's character growth and not the rivals who scale to the player's level. You have to actively avoid leveling too much until you face your rival.
>>3696777Typical Atlus. Hard mode is just a generic multiplier not even tested.And of course the git gud crowd will cum over this.
I might have just gotten filtered though. I never played other SaGa games yet either.
Digital Devil Saga is just a harder version of this game
>>3696659This game felt a lot easier on my second playthrough in the HD remasterThe dungeons were still kinda cancerous though
>>3696659>Hardest JRPG ever?Not even close.
>>3697465There isn't a single SaGa games that requires thinking.
