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yeah okay so uhhh

few years ago i was a muslim, or at least trying to be. was taught from a young age that being gay was a sin, lots of self hatred and the sort, closed myself in from society, blah blah etc. back when gay marriage was legalized i started to feel a bit less like a shut-in, and seeked out some help in the form of a support group. this was some time during my first year of college and i'm about to fourth in the coming weeks.

so i came out to two of my sisters last week and they were really accepting, and i've never felt more... love? for myself in my entire life. . i actually felt happy. i didn't know it, but i havent been happy in so long. it's so fucking weird to realize that

but yeah i just wanted to say that because i'm just happy i found someone outside of my support group who accepts me for who i am. it's nice to know that i have some people i can act like my regular fuckin self around.

also i didn't realize there even was an /lgbt/ before this point so that's neato

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You will never raise your own daughter edition

Transitioning guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5xuoms/i_just_reached_5_years_of_hrt_mtf_here_is_my/
• What gender dysphoria is: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/6505ch/psa_gender_dysphoria_doesnt_mean_what_many_of_you/
• How to come out: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mg3ciizwn5btbx2/10stepguideforALLgenderIdentitiesMFN-BtoCOMEOUTtoyourParents.pdf?dl=0
• Basic DIY hormones: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gQnyM7wxZcBGWRzW
• Makeup tutorials: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Fashion tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKRRdfgve6FVGKvESatjjE7BS5oF6SuF1
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
http://www.genderlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/voicebook020.pdf
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/

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>>9962628
And don't forget to go to therapy on the 30th, you already have an appointment and everything, what is there to lose?
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>>9962630
Nothing to loose but I'm 100% fine. I don't want to be a girl anymore. I don't need the therapy solved the problem on my own. I'm not upset or sad or even thinking about my physical appearance relating to passing. I just feel happy being a man and want to stay that way. I'm not saying something bad lol I'm happy
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>>9962635
Well, see you during your next bout of dysphoria.

And don't cancel your appointment on the 30th.
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>>9962637
it's like 1am so I can't right now anyways but trust me I feel fine. Gender euphoria as a man. I'm very glad I resolved this all in my head. I was just like blowing up a fetish and using it as like a form of escapism. I really like the male role and aesthetic and would never want to be a female lol I'm glad I'm a guy
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>>9962639

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Fucking GOALS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llw9Q6akRo4

>What is a feminine male?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Most are gay or bi.
>Are feminine males trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
>Can I be a feminine male?
It's possible. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
>Should I go on HRT?
Your choice. You'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man. There's more info in the pastebin.
>Is liking feminine males considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
>Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/0fKx314Q
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>>9959977
dang i thought riley liked her
sad person, i hope she finds someone who loves and takes care of her.
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>>9950912
Washington
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>>9962077
I swear all of you are in Washington.
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>>9962092
Can confirm, am in washington.
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>>9952433
>>9952969
im getting a lip piercing unironically because of your pics, just booked the session
good inspo

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Has anyone gone through this? How did it turn out and how easily/often do public records out you?

Is it even worth trying to get your name change records sealed? You'd have to get a lawyer, which could take several months extra and costs thousands.

I don't plan on going full stealth. I just want some measure of privacy and protection from creeps/discrimination. The fact that a name change is so easily googleable otherwise is dysphoria inducing. Fuggg idk what to do
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I just checked the online records for the court where I got my name changed. A search comes up blank. Good. It was a long time ago though and it might get put online eventually. They have marriage licenses that old but not name changes.
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>>9962532
I think it depends on state law, the court, and the judge really. Some judges might consider being trans enough to warrant sealing records. In other places they might want you to show some evidence of a specific threat. Some states might specifically allow for trans name changes to be sealed.
To be honest though in U.S. I don't think having your name change in the public record is going to be enough to jeopardize your safety, though it can obviously cause social/employment/other problems.
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>>9962174

I personally sent in a letter to a number of state legislators and an email to my state's LGBT advocacy organization about updating the law to be more like California's when it comes to name changes. As in, no requirement to publish the name change. I only got a response from one of the legislators that didn't say much more than, "I read your letter," really, and the guy I was speaking to from the LGBT group didn't get back to me after he said he would talk with a few of his friends in California and lawyers here in this state. I even sent him two more emails to check on what was going on. No idea why he ghosted me. He said that they have another issue with name changes that they would like to fix, specifically around minors. I don't know if they'll do that and the removal of publication requirement at the same time even without my involvement.

At the very least the bill on being able to change gender on birth certificates with just self-certification will be voted on in the lower house this Thursday and probably signed by the governor very soon.

>>9962511
>>9962516

>but in the US changing your gender marker is also public record.
>Court documents will still say,
>[dead name] changed to [new name]
>[old gender] changed to [new gender]

It doesn't seem to be that way in my state.
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>>9962624
>LGBt group
>caring about T people
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>>9962624
I'm from California and you're only exempt from publication if you change both your name and gender at the same time. Unfortunately, the decree to change name and gender are on the same page, so both will be published.

What's it like in your state?

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Why do lesbians do this? They like girls, but they don't mind posting their semi-nude pictures online for patreon money from straight guys.
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>>9962594
Why do you need a co-writer? What could you be stuck on? ya just write it.
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>>9960936
exhibitionists to that extent don't usually care who is getting off to watching them.
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>>9962609
>The average age for a male entering prostitution is 14.
That's retarded. For that to be true, then for every 20yo entering, there would have to be an 8 or 9yo, or two 10 or 11yos, or three 12yo.

For every guy above 20, these numbers get even more obviously bullshit.
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>>9960936
If you could do the same, wouldn't you? It's good money doing something you probably already enjoy.

If there was a market for it, I'd totally be down for selling gay male fetish glamor photography to rabid yaoi fans.
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>>9962626
Yep. Because there's a huge amount of human trafficking and child exploitation in prostitution.

People keep buying the lie that all prostitutes are these super comfortable, middle-class white girls who 'do it because she love it' and forget she's actually a very small minority. It's just beneficial for her to keep peddling that fantasy so her business doesn't suffer. If you bring up facts about prostitution, they get extremely upset and say 'yeah but that's not prostitution that's human trafficking', completely ignoring that they've just themselves said that all of those 80% have been human trafficked, which carries a very shitty implication about the industry.

Shame you don't think boys can be and are exploited in the sex industry. While the majority of victims are women, it's just naive to go 'nuh uh littles boys aren't exploited it's bs because I don't agree'

The future's probably gonna turn out fine. You were able to take this massive step, you can make others, make your life better.
But what fucks me up is the fact that you don't get the past you should have had. Personally I think I'd have turned out roughly the same way... but you never know, do you? And for some people they very much wouldn't have. You can change your future to make it a little more what you want it to be, but you can never change the past, never make up for the youth you should have been living if you'd been born the right way.

So tell me, /tttt/: what are the memories you never got to have? What would your life have been like if you'd been cis and fine with it? What do you think you might have missed out on by not growing up as the right sex? Big stuff, small stuff, personal or not, I wanna know what memories you want, but never had.
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>>9962446
I dont dwell in the past, I am just happy I am who I am instead of being born correctly and becoming a kardashian fan
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>>9962446
I used to really hate this too, I wanted to grow up as a girl. I wanted to be in high school as a girl. I was never asked to the year 10 and 12 formal (prom). I was never able to pick out a dress and prepare all day beforehand making myself look immaculate. I was never able to have sex at the after party. I'll never be the same as everyone else.

But I can't change any of that. I have to look to the future, be the best person I can be.
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>>9962446
I read teen fiction, childhood greentexts and make up things in my imagination to cover the childhood I never had.

Lots of my sexual fantasies are being a girl at high school or doing other things that age.

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What should I know about electrolysis?

I went in for a consultation on laser hair removal two weeks ago and what I was told was pretty disappointing. So now I'm considering electrolysis more seriously on my face at least. What do I need to know? The average is apparently 200 hours to get rid of a beard, but according to http://dallasdenny.com/Writing/2013/05/12/electrolysis-in-transsexual-women-a-retrospective-look-at-frequency-of-treatment-in-four-cases-1997/ that comes down to low skill of the electrologist. And that an electrologist who is doing it properly could do it in less than half of that. How many hours can I fit in in a week if money isn't something to worry about?
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>>9956405

Bump.
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>>9956522
Mine didn't even ask me a single question, sign a waiver, get on the table and zap zap pew pew -200 dollars for beard getting murdered
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>>9956458
Today I learned that I'm not northern European genetically so much as I am Hispanic. Weird.

(I'm not trying to be as snarky as it may sound)
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>>9959741

That reminds me. The man co-owner told me over the phone that they generally don't do the scrotum, and that if I wanted it, I would have to sign a waiver. The woman co-owner (they're a married couple) didn't mention anything about a waiver and said they just don't do it. That was another reason for looking at electrolysis more.
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>>9959741

They charged you two hundred per session?

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>be me mtf
>start hrt
>18 months later my whole life changes (:
>mainly i start bedwetting ):
>and spotting on my panties ):
>buy diapers ):
>want to go to bed, left diapers in car...
>...really dark and scary out, hear wolves.
>go out to car, get diaps, lock car door, shut car door
>turn around
>really cute neighbor yells boo!
>scream and jump
>she sees my bag of diaps
>"oh, im sorry! i didnt mean to!"
>her face has this look of... pity? or something?

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this one user told me if you push on the taint you can make a lil bit come out.

>but not all of it ):
>still enough to make my panties spot
>and spotting on my jeans.
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>>9962497
cup your nuts and push up on your taint a little bit. it will push that liquid out. do it after every pee. it's not a transition thing. but spiro can make u incontinent and everyone gets warned about it unless they self med.
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can't you wear pads? the overnight (usually orange) ones are longer and have more capacity
im not familiar with the intricacies of donger physiology sorry
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>>9962465
storytime
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>>9962526
are you a cis?!

the ends of pickles kind of don't stay put enough for a pad to be in the right place at the right time

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how much did it cost, who did you choose for the job, and where did you have to go to get it performed?
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>>9962212

Where do you live? I check my work email and they list job openings every week, a considerable amount of them in new facilities. I think the only thing you have to make sure of if you're not going for a salaried position is that you're at least a part-time employee, not FLEX. Reduced time or full time is probably the best way to make sure you'll get the insurance plan. And you also have to be employed directly by Amazon, not a staffing agency, if you're going into a warehouse, sort, or distribution center. I think Amazon also hires truck drivers, if you're into that. If none of those are in reach, you might just have to relocate, though if you did that, it would be better to have a college degree.

>>9962229

>im boutta pass better than actual men

That's an unfortunate typo, senpai.
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>>9962295
southeast ohio. Closest I find is Columbus ohio which is 2 hours northwest of me.
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>>9962218
I think I've maybe just completely lost the ability to look at my face objectively. I have a friend I trust to be honest with me who says I look different and fine but I just....don't really see it. Still hoping that "you don't think you look any different until 6 months" meme is real

Ha yeah I catch the reference, and I'm not surprised your mom does that.

I mean a lot of the problem is my skeleton. I was too old when I started. And...everyone always says I'm skinny but I don't get it - I have 20.5 BMI which is well within normal range. I am intentionally gaining weight though so eventually I can get a fat transfer.
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>>9962329

In that case, you might be better off looking at other companies that offer transgender coverage if you can't get relocate or have a bachelor's degrees. Amazon does have some virtual customer service jobs, but those are rare for people who just speak English. The last one I saw like that was looking for someone who spoke fluent Japanese.

T-Mobile also covers FFS as I recall, it just has to be in the US. Here's a list of companies that offer any kind of coverage at all for transgender services. You'll have to look at each one more closely to see what they cover because some might cover SRS but not FFS or vice versa. https://www.hrc.org/resources/corporate-equality-index-list-of-businesses-with-transgender-inclusive-heal
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>>9962212

What do you mean "fucked again"?

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"Fun night" edition.

Old thread: >>9929099

Transition timelines:
http://helpfultransinfo.tumblr.com/tagged/tc
Bottom surgery info:
http://gendercube.tumblr.com/
Passing guide:
http://ftmguide.rassaku.net/
Old sites, but still great one-stop-shops for FTM information:
http://ftmguide.org/
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>>9960822
>>9960849
fuck. if i had to look at it you must too
it's that guy from a meme where he sits near a cake with photoshopped communism symbol. i recognize him. when i first saw that meme i thought he's a failed mtf tranny and probably disabled
kek
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tfw have fantasies of you dykes being raped by big black men in prison. Just tearing up your vaginas and creaming inside until you degens realize that your all women not men like god intended.
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tfw have fantasies of raping big black men in prison. Just tearing up their buttholes using tears as a lube, helpless about their manliness being discarded, until they realise they are degenerates wanting to be a sissy, not men like god intended.

>"b-but no homo, you don't have a penis!"
>"it's not gay, r-right?"

Too late.
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>>9962512
I'm a trans-man anon, tell me how you'd fuck the boy out of me through my cis-vagina, like god wants.
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>>9962202
ren#8758

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Can I be straight and fap to gay porn?
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>>9961348
Nope.
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>>9962492

if you are sexually attracted to men and you are a man then your sexual orientation is not straight it is gay or bi
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what kind of gay porn? rough macho bodybuilders fucking each other or cute little asian twinks?
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>>9962535
Twinks
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>>9962605
well that's a bit less gay but it's still kinda gay
did you progress from futa to traps to twinks? soon you'll be fapping to image related

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"Transgender brain scans promised as study shows structural differences in people with gender dysphoria"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22/transgender-brain-scans-promised-study-shows-structural-differences/
>People questioning their gender identity could be offered brain scans to determine whether they are transgender, according to a new study."
>Breakthrough research has revealed for the first time evidence that the brain activity of people who feel they inhabit the wrong body closely resembles that of the gender they want to embrace.
>Analysis of around 160 participants showed that biological males with gender dysphoria - the experience of discomfort or distress due to their biological sex - had a brain structure and neurological patterns similar to biological females, and vice versa.
>The analysis revealed that the distinct neurological differences are detectable during childhood.
>The findings, presented at the European Society of Endocrinology annual meeting in Barcelona, are likely to provoke controversy among groups who argue gender identity should be matter of personal choice and not medical definition.
>Professor Julie Bakker, who led the research at the University of Liege in Belgium, said: “Although more research is needed, we now have evidence that sexual differentiation of the brain differs in young people with GD, as they show functional brain characteristics that are typical of their desired gender.”
>The team used MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) tests to examine brain activation upon exposure to a steroid, as well as measuring gray matter and white matter microstructure using a technique called diffusion tensor imaging.
>The study included biological males and females with gender dysphoria, and male and females without gender dysphoria as controls, with ages ranging across childhood and adolescence.
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>>9962269

It doesn’t matter. All officially-sanctioned science will be massaged and directed to be pro-trans.

The outliers on brain scans will be gay men but they’ll be thrown into the mix.
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>>9962009
Did they skip controlling for sexual orientation?
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>>9962593
>prepubescent children
You'll never not be a creep, are you?
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Reads here like these were GNC gay kids, not trans kids

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262931202_Hypothalamic_Response_to_the_Chemo-Signal_Androstadienone_in_Gender_Dysphoric_Children_and_Adolescents
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>>9962595
There is NOTHING creepy about APP.

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I'm a boymoding MtF teacher at a high school. I haven't told anyone I'm trans but I am openly gay among the other teqchers. With pride month coming up, do you think I should wear an LGBT pride pin or something? I kinda feel like I should show the students that LGBT people exist even if I don't explain which LGBT I am.
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>>9958213
>children
>as if most posters here aren't 15
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>>9960776
>Africa perhaps.

>Europe perhaps
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>>9962382

Shh what you say it's true for most posters but shhhhhh you're going to ban the whole /tttt/

Thanks god i'm legally allowed to post here.
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>>9960150
yo queer crackas is white, dat lgbt month is yo white month bitch
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Please stop endorsing this to kids

Do transgenders reinforce gender norms?
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>>9960294
T_T

I don't think I do. My mannerisms apparently must be androgynous, from the feedback i get. To girly as a boy to boyish as a girl. I act the same. I guess it must be somewhere in between which doesn't satisfy either.

oh well. I focus most on being polite and stuff in public since im the first tranny most people have ever talked to when they meet me in this state (the rest are in the ghettos desu...). I think besides the fact that I say sorry a lot i leave a decent impression. Manners go along way with southerners.

it feels weird. I'm like an ambassador.
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>>9961401
That's actually kind of cute.
Yeah that does make sense. I guess i'm operating on the premise that gender roles can be harmful however you are completely correct that they must be upheld for transwomen to pass.
so to ask, for you, what it means to be a women is what ever a man would generally find desirable? like you said you wanted to look best for your man?
Thanks for your input as well, I guess the problem isn't with gender roles. Maybe it's something else.
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>>9961346
>before even knowing I was trans when I was young i would wear my moms clothes and makeup bc it felt right to me.
t. AGP
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>>9961529
Hmmm yeah it definitely is super complicated to think about. If I was solely going off of what a man would desire from me then I don't think I would have transitioned at all, I would just live as a gay man since many men desired me pre transition. But to me, the way they wanted me didn't feel right at all. For me a gay relationship feels like two feminine energies seeking the man in each other and I've never had an ounce of attraction towards that.

When I would see how a man looked at a woman, it was completely different. It felt like true masculine energy. If a man could ever look at me like that I would feel complete and authentic which is why I'm transitioning. Being on hormones also helps as it really accentuates all the parts of me that I identify with, testosterone just made me feel very disgusting and wrong.

I can tell how this shit is so confusing for anyone to understand, it's difficult to articulate for me even tho I'm trans!! I think gays and mtfs are actually very similar, you can especially see this through kids. It's very common for both to have wanted to play with girl toys, be more comfortable around female friends, etc. But I think what differs is what you're trying to define. It's whatever that thing in trans people's head that makes them believe that theyre wrong and meant to be women. It's gender dysphoria and I do believe that it is definitely a mental illness.
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>>9960418
>this whole post
literally the reason I ditched one of my projecting trans friends when I went full time, she constantly told me how women are supposed to stand on trains, that we aren't supposed to ever touch our hair that they don't do this they do that etc it's incredibly draining and the biggest reason feminists dislike us

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Cis Lesbian General (/clg/): Fruit Edition

What's your favourite fruit? Do you make sure to eat pineapple before meeting qts? Do you even eat any fruit or just sit on your NEET ass gobbling fast food up all day?

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>>9962488
She's free to leave me for a much better woman after everyone knows she dated me.
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>>9962456
me too. i'd even tolerate getting cucked. i'd just tell myself that it was a threesome, and I was there in spirit.
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>>9960307
I will do that if you have discord, i don't like to post them pubically.
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>>9961636

>got her to call me a stupid cunt

I wish I were you.
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>you will never be strapped down and dommed by nazi!supergirl

Why even live?



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