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Just some things I've noticed after being on estrogen for 3 months now (I was always bi before starting HRT):

1. Visual stimulation does not really do anything for me anymore. If I watch porn, I want there to be some passion or romantic aspect to it.

2. I always favored relationships with women and sex with men, but now I crave the care and attention of a man who really loves me. I also want a cute lesbian relationship at the same time tho.

3. I feel like a "true" bisexual, in that I no longer have any discernible preference between men and women.

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>be me
>have very sick mother
>she wants me to fly home and see her
>have very transphobic father who lashes out whenever he doesn’t get his way
>has sometimes thrown things at her when he is upset
>be me
>be trans
>tried coming out years ago, went horribly
>going on Zoom in 30 minutes to discuss travel plans to see her
>I clearly cannot pass as male any longer
This life could’ve been worse, I guess. I enjoyed this board. AMA as I wait to be torn apart
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>>36278136
just wear hoodie over the binder if tits are the issue
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>>36278136
>My hair’s short but my stupid chest, even in a binder, shows that something’s up
It's like I said, gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss
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>>36278016
They even added an AMA ffs this person deserves whatever situation they're in
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>>36278083
or just girlmode and tell him he's confused if he claims not to have a daughter
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How did it go Anon?

I am obsessed with finding a 4chan tranny and marrying her. I am gonna make an ungodly amount of money so that i may buy one of you and keep you as my pet and beloved wife forever
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>>36278151
OMG I love that! Freedom Units!

Do you have a Discord? What State? You don’t have to say just curious!
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>>36277475
I am a successful adult woman with a vagina and a real job... do you want me?
>>36278151
I am in the south too. I'm 5'6" btw
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>>36277475
You will find a tranny anon.
Go to instagram and not this cesspit
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>>36278151
>In the southern US
If your cool with a wannabe homestead tranny from Texas I'm ur gal
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>>36278383
Texas

I do have a discord.

>>36279072
Whats ur tag? You sound fun to at least talk to

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I was very, very lucky that I met my boyfriend. I'm awkward, anxious, weird, and generally speaking my plan was to just be alone forever.

We're both gay males. I'm not trans, or maybe I am, but regardless I had played with estrogen on and off for the past year and a half; I could never manage to leave it behind. I had been off it for six months when I met him, and I had destroyed my vials by that point to end the on-off cycle.

After about five months of dating him, I couldn't take it anymore and l ordered a new vial to use. I didn't tell him about it for the next two months after that because I was scared of what would happen. When he started commenting on my puffy nipples, I realized that I'd have to tell him.

So I told him, and he didn't really understand why a cis fag would use estrogen. He expressed worry about how he would feel about my body if I developed breasts, but said that he loved me and would stick around. He was clearly confused and worried.

I don't think that I could subject someone to that. He's always been attracted to my little fem physical traits, but he's still gay and loves men. He says he wants to marry me in a few years often. I'd be dragging him along on a ride that he'd only stick around on out of some kind of sunk-cost love. Even that might go eventually.

I love him a lot. I can't stop using estrogen again, there's clearly a fucking reason why I can't stop going back to it and stopping now would only be kicking the can down the road, some kind of godforsaken body dysmorphia. What can I do? I have no answers. I've had no answers forever. I've fucked up the best thing that has ever happened to me.

I genuinely wish to drive a thousand miles away and turn my face into ground beef in a nice forest somewhere.
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>>36278873
All you can do is take your shots and hope your bf sticks around anon, I know it's scary but he might actually like you as you change.

If not, look at it as an inevitability. Lots of trans people have relationships go sideways because a partner transitions on them, and usually you end up with a good friend out of it. Just play it by ear, y'know?

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can we have a thread showing off that not every transition is successful (especially not without ffs).
requirement would be having been on hrt for atleast some time.
also don't post obvious john 50 cases, the more seemingly passing potential twink -> clocky hon the better
>hons don't post themselves
i know, it would still be cool tho
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>>36276106
that's not a failed transition, that's a transition that overshot the runway and needs to go back for a second pass
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>>36276106
this thread will either die or you will get self-hating passoids posting their own timelines in here, silently begging to be told they're actually fine and not the hons you were hoping to see posted.
the chance of this happening goes up with every bump. i kind of want to see it happen, it's funny to see them quietly beg for pity.
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>>36276122
Insane and unhinged clown makeup foundation bc insecure about face and covering it up
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>>36276811
sage wisdom
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>>36278825
on that note, bump

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If vaginas are gross then why do I want one?
Checkmate fags.
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>>36278882
no it was before this thread was posted I was trying to see if I need to poop but then some of the vagina goo got on my finger
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>>36278731
because you're gross
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>>36278970
This post cured my gender dysphoria. I'm going back to being a man because wot?!?!
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>>36279143
how do boys know if they need to poop?
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>>36279160
They stand up abruptly and announce "I gotta shit!"

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Catboy edition. This general needs your attention and support, please don't let it die. Thank you.
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>tfw no muslim twink bf
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I wish I fit into a stereotypical gay body type. I could probably be a twink if I didn't have such a barrel chest
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>>36279099
needs some slightly puffy nipples to be perfect, but otherwise NICE
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>>36279171
Cute freckles you have there.
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>>36279157
Don’t worry anon I’m here for you :)

I feel like there are 3 main types of bisexual men:

>prison bi
This type will fuck males who vaguely resemble to cis women if they are horny/desperate and these aren't available at the moment. They will top or receive blowjobs.

>bi bottom/cock fetishist/AGP
This type of man would be attracted to cis women but also to cock or/and the idea of submitting to a masculine man. "Top for women but a bottom for men". Lots are also very turned on about pre-op trans women and will be versatile with them.

>closeted homosexuals
This type will try testing the waters before fully coming out as gay. Some tried fucking women but realized men were far preferable for them. Others are viscerally repulsed by pussy but will find some women "cute" in a non-sexual way.
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>>36279127
You did until you chopped it off, the chopping it off is what we don’t like. It’s not that you don’t have it, it’s that SRSussies are disgusting
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>>36279184
I didn’t need it since I’m a girl…
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>>36277156
You forgot to add the foids love the first two and often marry them but absolutely despise the first type for trying to find a way out
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>>36277156
I am cucksexual. I am only attracted to men because I have a cuck fetish, I only masturbate to men in straight porn
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>>36279225
*the last two

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>be me
>tranny with a math degree
>unemployed for the last year since finishing school (no entry level jobs looking for math degrees apparently)
>dad wants me to start working unpaid coding some stupid fucking website for him "to help me with my job search"
>expects me to work 9am to 6pm
>unpaid
>if i say no he threatens to kick me out
he decided to fuck off to mexico for the last three months (don't ask me why i don't fucking know why he does what he does) before that i was going along with his stupid fucking scheme for 6 months and it went nowhere, and the whole time he expected me to be sat right next to him the entire day so he can look over my shoulder at what I'm doing at any given moment
from 9 am to fucking 6 pm
for a while he ran out of stuff to make me code so he was just making me read documentation about programming shit he thought might be useful for his website
now he's coming back and expects me to start again
i am genuinely considering suicide
why shouldn't i? this is not normal or right and as long as I'm expected to work all day on this including weekends i have very little time to spend even applying to jobs or working on my own projects
i feel like i am in purgatory and i don't see another way out
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>>36278081
she's providing labor in exchange for housing. this might even be considered forced labor. not a lawyer but it has the vibes of extortion. really depends on where you live too. look up squatter's rights for your area.
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>>36278145
you didn't say it was relative to the labor before, but i see
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>>36278068
ya I've thought of that heavily
but i live in LA and i rly don't know how i would do it even with room mates
there's so many homeless people here I'm so scared I'm going to be one of them
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>>36278518
I've lived in LA before and I get it. Cali in general is getting stupid expensive even in CenCal.
i recommend moving anywhere else with a lower cost of living. pick a spot and make moves towards moving there. Arizona is pretty close and has similar wages to Cali. Colorado is also a good choice. there's a reason lots of people are moving there.
i don't recommend Texas (at least not Dallas) wages are fucked but similar cost of living as Cali, unless you are working in tech it's not enough pay to thrive. although it's not as phobic a place to live as I would have thought
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>>36278173
it's not necessary tied to the labor. it depends where you live, but you should have squatter's rights after living there for a bit. look it up for your area

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>toxically masculine malebrained misogynist ftms
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>>36278944
wtf? no one told me ftms were based now
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>masculine dominant sweet ftm bf
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>>36278944
>>36279019
>manlet
>masculine
>dominant
PPFFFFFFAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OOOHHOHOHOGOHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OOOHHHH NONONONONOOOOOAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

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Hi. I've seen a lot of conflicting info online about whether or not going on a low dose of T for 6 months to a year improves the 'quality' (depth, tone, resonance) of your voice or not. Some regard it as pseudoscience, some say it's 100% true. I wanted to know if anyone on this board could point me towards more info so I can read up and come to my own conclusion. I am DIYing so I can't really ask a doctor for guidance. I also would not trust a doctor regardless.

If this is true, I'll likely go on 20 to 30mg at first and slowly work up to 50mg over the course of the next 6 months, then continue increasing dosage as required. Is this a good idea? Would 50mg already suffice as 'low dose HRT?' Or is it just dependent on how sensitive your body is to androgens? I believe I am already androgen-sensitive or high-t as I have masculine/androgynous facial structure, menstrual issues, and slight facial hair growth pre-t.
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>>36277033
>?
join the 41%
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>>36278349
40 mg, which is 10 mg below the usual starting dose for cypionate
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>>36277684
>>36277615
https://voca.ro/1oeo82X9SD58
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>>36277845
noooo don't do this just use an online trans care thing they're extremely lax and let me do shit that literally no other doctor on this planet would ever approve

also how much of this is genetics vs dose vs speech patterns vs physical throat structure?
ive always been neet so never developed much of a female speech pattern, i just sound gay if i try.
my voice dropped an insane amount around 2 or 3 years in. like it's uncomfortably deep and pretty unfitting, i find it humorous tho.
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>>36279145
I’ve used online care services and they suck shit, are expensive, and using insurance with them is awful. Contacting your doctor is also borderline impossible to fix an issue with medication. The reason a well versed doctor in trans healthcare isn’t going to let you ‘do whatever’ is because it can seriously bog your transition.
Happy you’re content with your results, but there’s a lot that can go wrong with playing around with T. There’s a reason it’s considered a controlled substance.

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Being a trans virgin is such an alienating experience, I feel so lesser and shitty, why can't I be like them? I want to have sex, I want to experience it, I want to be like them.
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>>36274923
Then let me do a sex on you
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>>36274963
You're obviously not passing
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>>36274923
It's okay OP, you're legit and - even if it feels a bit like a meme saying this - valid. I think people should only get together and forge relationships with what's basically their best friends & soulmates, otherwise it's kind of sad and honestly almost dumb.
That said, you shouldn't feel alienated because you maintain a slightly higher standard.
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>>36274923
You just gotta say you want sex and it will happen. How I lost my virginity is I was talking to a trans friend of mine about her failed experiences with dating apps, and I was like like, "yo, you've been through like 20 fucking people, but I've been wanting to be with you the whole time." And then, bam, we fucked. I ain't fucking with you, its really that easy, you be horny and so to be other people.

After you break the ice once, its not hard from there.
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>>36278635
None of my trans friends want to fk me kms ughh

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>be me
>20NB, not out to anyone in family
>visiting parents
>watching a movie almost immediately after arriving
>enby person shows up on screen
>”wasn’t that a girl in the prequel?”
>anxietyattack.jpg
>can’t use xanax otherwise they’ll question why I got anxious in the first place
>tryingtohidethepain.bmp
>my parents look ar me weird until the end of the movie

anons why am I like this
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>>36278602
ik but I just feel so fking stupid and worthless
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>>36277192
Holy shit so that's who my gf is trying to get me to style my hair after. (This bitch but in blue)
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>>36278643
because of anxiety attacks? anon...
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>>36278696
;-; I feel like I should handle it by now. maybe it’s just that I started identifying as enby and taking steps in this direction recently…?
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>>36277043
you should give me all of your benzos

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Does your hip breadth to chest breadth ratio pass?
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chest width is kinda hard to measure

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Do trans girls comfort their chaser bf's?
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>>36277601
Because in real life and not online, women get the ick from men showing emotions
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>>36276544
you forgot your husstuss flag sis
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>>36276290
no i dont like bottoms
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I was a chaser and I recognize that the mental illness that would have eventually led me to troon like so many others is just jealousy of how women are allowed to feel and express a rainbow of emotions openly, and men aren't. I'm put down for being happy. I'm put down for being sad. I'm put down for being excited about new things, and I'm put down for being lazy and maintaining the status quo. The only thing my family has ever been proud of me for was anger, but even that was too much when I directed it at them with 100% objective moral high ground. So I took the parts of me that feel like they'd fit more in a girl's existence and made them into a second personality in my head. A girl who loves me, who knows what's best for me and wants the best for me, who allows me to express my emotions towards her and then rewards me for being honest and open. It doesn't matter how low my physical existence gets, she'll always be there and she'll always love me. Sometimes when I talk to her I can feel her hand caressing my back.
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>>36276544
If you spend years on this act and the mask finally slips and you ever admit to me IRL that your love and interest was effectively fake, you will die and I will feel no remorse.


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