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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

I've been looking around for a good hammock but a lot of the recommended brands I've seen in discussions either aren't making them anymore or are completely sold out.

Could I get some hammock recommendations as well as general tips for hammock camping?
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>>2756438
literally doesn't matter. They're all the same just the straps are different.
Get a two person, a bit bigger but a lot more comfy
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>>2757932
Not that anon but probably 300-400. Thats 2 hammocks though and an underquilt. They are right though the 5 dollar blessed Menard's is almost certainly less comfortable than a proper 11ft hammock. The extra length and the diagonal position let's you avoid the curve and take pressure off your back.

>>2757935
Demonstratively false, but almost all the cheaper parachute nylon fabric hammocks are the same I'll give you that. Mostly because the machine that makes them tops out at about a 9.5ft length. On these the width makes up a little for the short length but if you're really sleeping in it spend the extra 30 bucks or whatever for an 11ft when you committed.
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>>2757932
He's trolling, anon. It's the same as waterproof stuff not being waterproof or raw aluminum being an alloy. Just ignore him.
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are spreader bars a meme? seems like wasted weight
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>>2757968
For the hammock? Like a bridge hammock? It definitely works and it's a shorter hammock set-up. Bridge hammocks are also easier to use a sleeping pad inside. The negative is that they are a little heavier and you have to carry the poles of course.

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I witnessed a woman fall to her death today on half dome cables. Immediately turned around and hiked out.
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>>2758523
>you didn't listen to the park janny, you deserved to die
>noooooooo you have to buy all the gear before you go outside
you have a cowardly cuck mentality. I hope you get eaten by a grizzly.
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>>2758526
You're the type of person who would wonder into a known grizzly infested part of a forest without any protection then wonder why you were killed.
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>>2758536
maybe you should just stay /in/ if you're that afraid of the world. we're all going to die of something. better to die doing what I love than in a hospital bed regretting my wasted life.
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Toasting in ebin scream crap
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>>2758119
No, OP was very strangely accurate. ~15 people have died on the half dome cables in the park's history. It's not like this is something that tons of people just get rekt on frequently like base jumping. To get this and the person's sex correct within seven days is beyond crazy.

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Homestead General /hsg/
> Biochar Edition
> Thread #07

Talk gardening, farming, livestock, beekeeping, building, electricity and plumbing, earthworks, waterworks, permaculture, raising children, market gardening, selling produce, barter, home economics, composting, mulching, pest control, diet, health.
Anything relevant to living on site, making a home out of the land.

Old Thread: >>2676468
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>>2757132
MLS listing service
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What's the best US state to homestead in? I realize this might depend on personal preferences and what you want to do on the land. Just in general. Also any anons interested in starting a wiki for this general?
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Thoughts on microgreens? I have all these shallow pots so anything I grow won't have soil deep enough for the roots so the seedlings will not mature. I've heard microgreens are good for you
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>>2758509
Microgreens are great, but the seeds will cost you about twice as much as buying your yield as regular greens at the store. That's worth it when you consider that microgreens are a lot more nutrient dense. You'll want something without holes in the bottom. You can plug up any holes on your pots with clay if you need to, but it would be better to use a 1020 tray. You might also need a light, unless you have a sunny window. Here's a good resource to get you started.

https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/blogs/microgreens/the-ultimate-microgreen-cheat-sheet
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>>2758509
grow microgreens for one season. then drop it because it's a joke. nutrient density is completely true. however, that means you have to eat basically sheets of turf to get the same mass as you would from eating say...a couple servings of broccoli. microgreens are a fine fancy thing to add on top of bacon on a hamburger, but thats it. youd have to dedicate your lawn to growing "micro" greens, when you could just allow the micro stuff to fully grow into the real plant like a normal garden.

#509- “Do You Even #Baitcast?” Edition

Previous Thread:
>>2749747

janny pls…

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

New Bong Fishin Guide
https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq

First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.

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I wish I had tartar sauce, but I don't, so I used ketchup and Chick-fil-A sauce. This is a wiper cooked up in Cajun Shore Lunch. This was probably the best catch and cook I've ever done. Firm and not-too-fishy white meat. I caught my PB wiper, I've only caught babies, weighing 2.68 pounds, which I let go. Some Chinese people show up and fish right by me. This is an urban spot, so this is common, and they were nice enough, but I could tell they were hungry. I lost one on the bank, and then, I kept the third and final wiper I caught. There are tons of snags at this spot. I normally have terrible luck, but today was a good day. These fish were the first I caught since I took a 2 week trip to Europe for summer school and sightseeing. I'm extremely glad to be back.
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>>2758522
Anon, nobody on here can afford that shit and the ones who do probably have the (correct) mentality that it's cheating and bullshit.
>staring at a fucking screen to catch fish
>$1.5k just for the transducer itself
Gay as fuck.
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>>2758522
I don't even use a depth finder. Fucking cheater.
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>>2758555
You sound poor
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>>2758556
NTA, the only way I'd use a live scope or depth finder is to scout fishing locations. This would be to familiarize myself with the lay of the land. When I'm actually fishing, I only want to fish, not look at a screen. I think it's behavior similar to eating everything that comes out of the water regardless of size and species. It's repugnant. But I'm not going to tell a stranger what to do.

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pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87

New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/

Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.png

Search terms:
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previous >>2752969

flower edition
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>>2758490
sounds handy, plus you can chuck it at squirrels
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Today I noticed my Sweet 100 cherry tomato plant is starting to get a ripe tomato. It has had a huge cluster of tomatoes for weeks but none ripened. They should start going red fast and furious now. I pulled my spring peas, and planted a batch for fall.

The green beans are finally starting to produce. The first planting didn't take due to a cold stretch, so I had to replant.

Lots of large carrots now. My careful seed spacing this spring is paying off. Should be self sufficient for carrots until Christmas or later. I should figure out a better storage solution than keeping them in a spare fridge. Always end up losing a bunch not being able to control humidity.
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>>2758550
My super sweet 100 has been pretty slow this year, the heat wave most of the US got seemed to slow everybody down. The plus side is they're fucking delicious.
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>>2758532
correct. except, my county doesnt have squirrels. i have mourning doves, which are basically pigeons. ive thrown it a few times.
>personally, i find the horizontal throw (like a frisbee) better than the vertical throw (like a tomahawk)
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If I knew flowers were this easy to get seeds out of I would have started a flower seed business years ago are you fucking serious? I don't even have to pull them out and separate them and dry them on a paper towel? They're just like free to take?

Just knives.
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>>2758083
>>2758093
Pull through sharpener hurts my soul.
Just use a dmt pocket sharpener or chink alternative, takes maybe 10 seconds more time, but edge will hold about a thousand times better.
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first and last knife
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>>2758327
is that assisted
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>>2758299
Is the brush really that useful? Theese are my mushroom/foraging knives, ussually just clean up whatever I've gathered when I get home, probably should get the "mushroom" opinel huh?

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It's been almost a year since the last climbing thread on /out/ died. The thread on /xs/ is overwhelmingly focused on gym climbing, so I'm making this attempt to revive the general. Help out by sharing trip reports, photos, advice, etc.

A place to talk about outdoor climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Off-belay:
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2610900
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2537031
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2495558

/xs/ thread:
>>>/xs/196297

Adam Ondra sends world's hardest trad route Bon Voyage: https://youtu.be/ji4At78H5Ys
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>>2757673
If you start to slide near the channel you have a 50% chance of getting dumped onto those rocks, after all your limbs get broken. I almost did something similarly stupid so I understand the urge.
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>>2757428
I don't have any kind of educated opinion, but personally I wouldn't do that without the ability to self-arrest
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Bouldered on peak grit for the first time today, amazing boulders and rock that was really fun though i got my ass beat on most problems since im coming from edgy granite, probably wont be back for another 2 years though.
Im sad i didnt get the chance to climb any of the trad routes but i didnt feel like finding any partners for it.
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Despite slightly high temps I went up to Tahoe to try a boulder I've been thinking about for a while. Purple Sticky Punch (V5) is insanely aesthetic and was a pretty fucking brutal approach involving significant off trail wandering. Unfortunately I could not pull the crux, which involves using an awful left hand sloper and a super high left foot to slap your right hand up over a bulge.

Despite not sending the hike was absolutely gorgeous and the meadows were probably the most lush I've ever seen in Tahoe, Yarrow growing over 5 foot tall and the Lupins were going absolutely gangbusters.

Will be back in 2 weeks to try again, here's me in the meadows, will post a pic of the boulder next.
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>>2758544
The boulder itself, climbing partner censored. I circled the awful left hand sloper and the arrow points to where people I've seen do it stick their left foot. There really isnt any other way than to just slap the right hand up and in the sun and heat it just did not feel possible. Need to get stronger on slopers.

a thread for all that usefull pocket junk we carry every day

-whats in ya pockets?
-trinkets
-knives
-flashlights
-multitools
-lookin fo´new stuffs?
-post about pocket stuff

we all know we like this stuff
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>>2758238

thanks for posting this, I had been thinking about it too. wish the real ones didn't have such retarded blade profiles :/
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>>2756204
Seeing as that isn't actually you, I suppose you carry another man's cock around all day?
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/fa/ is the only board with a watch thread, but they're too busy being elitist and insulting each other over brand tiers.

Is /out/ related watchposting relevant ITT?
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>>2756919
Do you ever carry different stuff? Ngl, curious as hell.
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>>2758414
Sure, why not, I used to wear the DW-5600E, but I have upgraded to a Rangerman a couple of years ago, not having to manually adjust for daylight saving time, solar charging, bigger face etc is nice, I is a lot more clunky though

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I'm a CS student and I'm seriously thinking about quitting.

I took this path for the money and job prospects, but I absolutely hate it, I can't stand doing these things and the stress and anxiety this situation brings me is becoming too much to bear.
I would love to get an outdoor job, also given that hiking is one of my biggest passion.

Any advice on how to make this transition or what fields to look into? Should I eat the bullet and end uni first (I have one year left) or get into a new experience as soon as possibile?
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>>2758072
>>2758163
>>2758256
yes, I guess that getting this degree is the best thing to do, but it's not easy, because it causes me a lot of stress, I'm even starting to have panic attacks every now and then during exams.
But as >>2758163 said, it's better to have a STEM degree that having nothing in my degree.

>>2758086
I will look into it, thanks

>>2758163
Also, some questions:
- Even if you haven't done uni, do you think that work a CS job is more fun or less stressful that studying CS?
- How it's a good /out/ carreer if, in the end, you must stare at a computer screen for the majority of the time?
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>>2758256
Does being in EE require being good at math? How many years of education?
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>>2758479
Not him but I can't think of any major that requires more math than EE besides a literal math major. We took math up to differential equations in ME and that was it. I think EE had another level or two of math, and I know they have to deal with that complex number nonsense which MEs can basically ignore.
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>>2758256
explain more I'm an electrical engineer working a soul sucking desk job at a major utility corp how do I get out
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>>2758267
Working a CS job is usually less stressful than studying CS. After you settle in things become pretty straightforward and you aren't having to worry about learning novel concepts on a deadline very often. It depends on the job.

It's a good /out/ career in that it gives you freedom and lots of money to pursue outdoor activities in your life outside of work. Any job that has you actually working outdoors every day is going to suck ass for reasons that should be obvious.

Recommend me some durable waterproof boots for rain and snow seasons, should be comfortable enough to hike for 10-15 kilometers/day in cross terrain. Budget is around $200, if they are properly proper I can go a bit higher.
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>>2750289
why would I walk a trail that I could just bike. boring
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My boots I've had for 10 years are falling apart (the sole is coming off). They are also pretty beaten up since I scraped them on some rough rocks during some of my hikes/climbs. The only reason they haven't fallen apart sooner is because I haven't really hiked since covid 19 lockdowns until a week ago. Did some walking and climbing while on vacation in the Italian Alps I think it was the final coffin in the nail for these shoes.
I want to get some new shoes but I've been debating between proper boots again or some trail runners. The only thing I'm concerned about is that lots of people mention that trail runners wear out quick and aren't very durable. Ie. I looked up the Hoka Speedgoats and Salomon Speedcross due to recommendations online. In most reviews people mentioned how the threads on the soles wear out pretty fast, especially if you need to walk over some asphalt/pavement to your destination.
My usual routine is to just wear my boots out, drive the car/take the bus into the mountains and then start hiking. Depending on how long it takes I might do a stroll in the town and eat something at a local restaurant. I don't swap boots because I find it troublesome to bring two pairs. Especially if I got to the country by air travel.
I'm a casual hiker, I've never really done overnight camping on the mountains. The hardest "hiking" I've done were some of the easier via ferrata routes with no harness. Would trail runners still be a good choice or should I just get boots again?
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I'm going hiking in the Adirondacks and also either the Green Mountains or White Mountains. Similar terrain I think?
Looking for some new boots or shoes. I always just had Merrel Moab 3s but I want to upgrade.
I am thinking:
>Salomon X Ultra 4 low or mid
>Oboz Sawtooth X or Bridger low or mid
If anybody has an opinion on either for Northeast hiking for like, 10-14 miles at a time I'm interested. I tried them all on and I honestly couldnt decide.
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>>2758499
the Whites are my home range but i regularly hike in the Green Mountains and Adirondacks, and yes they're extremely similar terrain wise

funnily enough, my current pair of boots are the oboz bridger mids, and my last pair were salomon x ultra mids. i absolutely hated the salomons and couldn't wait to get rid of them. i found the toe box very restrictive in those boots, and in really rocky and rugged terrain like the northeast has, that was not a good fit. the oboz bridgers have been far better. way more comfortable, waterproofing holds up, and soles grip well on the slab rock up here. only downside has been durability i think. I bought them last august and the uppers have a hole near the toebox already. i have put close to 500 miles in this terrain on them though so maybe my expectations are a little high
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>>2758499
see >>2750400

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Post your trailcam photos. This is the only thing I’ve captured in 4 months.
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>>2758143
It’s a coyote, no wolves in my area probably for centuries except in the zoo
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>>2758254
must be somehwere hot. His short coat tricked me.
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>>2758365
agreed. look at the difference in coats between>>2758021
and >>2719024
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How sensitive are these things? The pics in this thread are pretty neat, but I feel like if I put a trail cam near my house it would just capture 500 pictures of trees swaying in the wind
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>>2758538
they aren't generally triggered by movement but by heat signatures. this saves a shitton of time and battery and everything else.

I have a motion sensitive camera meant for indoors use but I have it pointing out the patio doors into the back garden and it just records all fucking day long when a leaf drops or there's a gentle breeze. my trail cam however only goes off when it detects heat, so a person or animal, sadly this configuration won't capture anything cold blooded so no gators or snakes and such

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1000 ft of elevation gain is plenty
anything more is superfluous and simply for poseurs to brag about
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I’ve climbed many 13th and 14ers in Colorado and not one of them has a view as impressive as that of Cadillac Mountain in Maine.
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>>2758339
but isn't cadillac mountain super crowded and like 70% chance of fog?
:(
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>>2758361
Can drive straight to it and it's in a national park, so yes.

how do you avoid these fucking monstrosities
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>>2758415
That is fuckin awesome
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>>2758415
wingman... shellman
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>>2746006
I've spent more time than I can count wading around in ponds, sinkholes, creeks and swamps right there in there range, and I've stepped on mocassins and alligators and seen water snakes, snapping turtles, and soft shell turtles but I have never seen a single Alligator Snapping Turtle.
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>>2758519
Their*
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Had to push this guy along with a piece of foam I keep in my truck for this purpose. Their neck extension is so much further than I thought.

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General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.

My personal questions:
I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?
I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
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It's rainy all the time and the sea is murky af -.- I'm starting to get serious spearfishing withdrawals.
>>2758279
Its better with a mask on. you can see whats going on underwater and react to animals coming close. feels less like being a helpless monkee splashing around on the surface. with a speargun, you also have a pointy stick to poke at sharknoses, if they get too curious.
but ngl, if the visibility is shit and I got a bleeding fish in the water, it's still an uneasy feeling, especially since there are bullsharks around.
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I asked in the equipment thread but this place seems appropriate too, since you people swim

I want to get one of these underwater masks with an air tank, but I was just wondering what your guys's experiences are with it? how long do you usually last underwater on what volume tank?
I see aliexpress (lol) is also selling smaller scuba kits, just a 2L tank and face mask connected to it, what about those?

everything swimming/water equipment related is a clusterfuck of everyone shilling different things and there is zero sense to be made. I just want to dive closer to the bottom of the sea and see stuff.
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>>2758371
lmao, looks like china junk.
I've never used something like that or one of the tiny tanks, but I'd get a proper diving mask and snorkel and a separate tank with regulator and mouthpiece. that way, you have a good mask, no matter what and can trash the tank if it sucks.
they should last you maybe like 5-10minutes, depending on you breathing and depth. dont go deeper than 10m or so and remember to full breath out before surfacing, especially if it runs out unexpected and you get the urge yt go up fast.
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shortstory,,,
,done.
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>>2758356
yeah shallow rivers with lots of smooth riverstone are nice but getting swept into a canyon or pothole would be a fucking nightmare

>>2758370
I would still be a little reluctant to use a mask in the ocean, some things are better left unseen


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