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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

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/diy/ or /out/? It's both!
What are tents made out of and where do I buy some of it? I am going to make my own tent. Please explain tent fabric to me.
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>>2749665
It's a unit of measure in the fabric world

It's basically the roll it comes on from the store
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>>2749338
Hello based moominposter.

The old school way to make a tent is canvas, but they're heavy and need waxing to be totally waterproof. This is NOT fire resistant, which is what you said you'd prefer. But green canvas is probably the simplest material to buy.

I have one of these because they're essentially modernised snufkintents. They are nylon. They are more waterproof with no effort, more fire resistant than canvas, but a little condensation gets inside. Although that could be from the airvents and the morning dew coming through.

If you really want to waterproof a synthetic material you could use a DWR spray.

Sweet travels to moominvalley! :D
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>>2755202
Canvas tent are waterproof enough on their own. Waxing will increase weight, stiffness and water resistance but not make them fully waterproof.
They should be fire retardant.
DWR does not make fabrics waterproof, only water repellent to mild exposure.
What makes canvas waterproof is the structure of the fabric and treatment.
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>>2755208
It's true that canvas is pretty good at repelling water as-is, I have some mid-century milsurp bags and was pleasantly surprised. But they are not as good at repelling water as nylon. Nylon doesn't soak the way canvas does.
It's also true that DWR doesn't make things goretex tier, but you said canvas is "waterproof enough", so for the purposes of this conversation DWR does make things "waterproof enough" :D
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>>2755211
Bags aren't normally the same material as tent fabric. Ever heard of ventile? Same principle minus the treatment, originally. Y
ou can sleep under a tarp made for that purpose, while just using DWR will have it fail in anything more than a small drizzle.

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Realistically speaking, how could one live out of a cave in the mountains?
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The Tibetan saint Milarepa meditated for 9 long years in a cave on a mountain side subsisting only on nettles which grew near its entrance. So realistically you need to start looking into attaining Buddhahood.

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janny pls…

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>>2755145
They do, they just keep everything regardless of regulations or species and trash the beaches.
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Gave an good old float a try , caught some rudd perch roaches and whatever this thing is, pretty good outing.
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>>2755135
>you can't handline a shark or tuna
Wrong that's not uncommon, the use ropes and gloves with a leader.
>>2755144
>it's hard to be constantly mindful. But I cast a lot better when I do
There you go that's an insight. Fly casting is proven to be meditative in the same way as yoga; by focusing your mind purely on the repetitive and specific motion the outside world melts away and stress with it. Being yourself to the here and now and clear you rrf mind of all but the cast.
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>>2755182
Do they really? I’d be terrified that the line would still compress and potentially sever fingers inside a glove. Its been like 15 years but from watching The Old Man and the Sea, he was using incredibly thick rope which would have distributed the pressure over a wider area.
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Both are floating and dive to 3’. Top is Magnum Long A Bomber, bottom is Yozuri Hydro. Are there any situations to throw one over the other?

New knife thread. Starting with my para 3. Been carrying for about a month now at work and while hiking. I can't really find anything I don't like about it. Maybe that the handle is a bit thick.
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>>2755038
why would you choose the Bond over other models?
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>>2755091
Some places don't allow locking knife blades.
It was more or less made for those places.
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>>2755032
The only one that looks like it has any use is #3 in >>2754597
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>>2754594
They're a bit of a knife nerd brand, often in the forefront of testing and using new steels and materials etc. They have a lot of wacky designs and collaboration if you like to collect them, but their basic designs are great user knives and affordable. It's more focus on performance steel and blade shape, rather than jumping on the latest trend and flashy knives.
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>>2755099
#2 and #3 both have signs of use, they're just not that prominent since the materials aren't ones that show wear really obviously. (Especially the G10 on #3, that shit is amazing, I used an orange G10 knife every day in an industrial environment for years and a few minutes with a Magic Eraser to clean the gunk out of the scales made it look pretty much new again.)

These long nosed shits are annoying as hell
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The real truth of the matter is humans are scum humans are swine. They deserve mosquitoes. I can almost guarantee you 100% mosquitoes were not even that prevalent nor even that big of an issue when Jesus was alive these are just more products of the disaster that was and it is industrialization and instant air travel.
Now get back in the pod and put on the
Vr goggles
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>>2754615
I'll be honest, all of the natural repellents I've tried had homeopathy-tier effectiveness.
I'll usually just stay away from still water during dusk and dawn, get in my tent (or hammock with mosquito net) quick and I carry one of those syringes with a plastic cup at the end, so if I get bit I can apply negative pressure and suck the mosquito saliva out. If I catch the bite in the evening and do that, it almost doesn't get itchy or inflamed.
If I'm somewhere with many mosquitos I'll just go to bed/in the tent early and I'll carry chemical based mosquito spray.
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get some of these bad boys
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>preferably in nature friendly ways
Mosquitoes are not an endangered species anon…

Where did all the tour buses full Chinks go? I live in a town that borders a NP and I have yet to see one of them since Fall 2019. The Chink flu must have really killed off that industry.
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>>2755213
I was in Yellowstone last week. I saw lots of tourists from all sorts of countries, including China.

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Buying a new backpack for /out , a better one then my old school bag of 5 years use, old girl isn’t holding up right, need some bag brand recommendations or any
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I have no idea but i am looking at 511 tactical for some of my gear…backpack and boots
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>>2755160
Every single thing I've owned from Mil-Tek was shit. You're better off buying chinesium.

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Is /out/ only for richfags with millionaire savings?
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How the fuck does /out/ afford to go out
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>>2754795
>community
>not mingle with the poor
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>>2754788
Depends on where you live.
In bongland you can get a rollmat + sleeping bag/bivvy + lean-to shelter (basha) from milsurp channels for well under £200, possibly £100. You could literally use a tarp sheet and string for the basha. I have one, it was like £14.

Then you can just walk to where you need to go innawoods.
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>>2754949
Thought he said he was in Canada
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>>2755209
You’re allowed to go in a woods in Bongland?

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Can someone redpill me on those fancy expensive bikes? Four years ago I bought a bike for daily commute. I was poor so I bought the cheapest city bike for €260:

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/stadsfiets-dames-elops-520-laag-frame-groen/_/R-p-145734

Then I discovered my passion for cycling trips. The problem was, my bike was cheap, so it kept breaking all the time, other than that I loved it. After two years I had enough and came back to the bike shop, where the guy tried to sell me some more racing-looking bike, but I really loved my city bike, so I ended up buying a more expensive bike from the city series for €700:

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/stadsfiets-elops-900-laag-frame-aluminium-zwart/_/R-p-306126

It's very comfortable, and during these two years the only things that needed repairs were tubes and tyres, even the original brake pads are still going strong. Fantastic. I can't express it how much I love the minimal maintenance. Unfortunately, it's very heavy, which really limits my performance during all-day cycling trips.

I'm thinking of buying one of those fancy expensive bikes for my trips, but I don't know shit about them.
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>>2754272
Your problem is that you're dutch. Just ride your shit bike until it's completely broken, then throw it in the canal and steal another bike.
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>>2754272
Very easy to understand
STATUS SYMBOL/IMAGE
just like cars, watches, phones.. anything marketed to the masses is image first function last and pricing is based on status not function.

That's why big trucks are all the rage even though 99% of the morons just use them to commute because they're too insecure to buy a honda accord for 1/4 the purchase price and 1/10th the recurring costs.
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>>2754272
If you just want some more performance for easy trips then look for a hybrid bike or trekking/touring bike.
You'll want something between €1000-1500 for a decent bike, you're paying for the components (gears and breakes) and brand.
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>>2754272
>I'm thinking of buying one of those fancy expensive bikes for my trips
Why, if you're happy with what you have? Consumerism?

Go to the store like a normal person and ride some, see if there's actually a difference that's worth the money.
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>>2754272
lool my sister has that exact decathlon bike homo

How does one get started spelunking?
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Does anyone have that cave exploring page that was like a geocities page or something
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>>2748327
be molested first
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>>2748467
classic
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>>2748327
Do you live in bongland? We have caving clubs in areas that have caves like Yorkshire. Been with one, they're good.
Caves have different ratings here and whether or not you'll need specialised equipment or if you can just walk/crawl in.
Bring a base layer, a middle layer like a fleece, and a jumpsuit on the outside. Rubber boots and a caving helmet are a must. You will ideally want to have a torch attached to your helmet, dropping the torch is not a risk worth considering.

Go in a group and most importantly TELL SOMEONE WHEN YOU INTEND TO BE OUT! Have a scheduled rendezvous where if you aren't back at that time, they will call confined space rescue.
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>>2748962
They're AI, friend. See the glif app watermark.

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I witnessed a woman fall to her death today on half dome cables. Immediately turned around and hiked out.
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>>2754167
Or what? What are you gonna do about it? Get a grip, imbecile.
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>>2753652
That doesn't save them anything on tax, though. They record revenue, never receive payment, and adjust their net income accordingly.
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>>2752727
It’s a like a 10+ hour hike round trip, normies are not making it to these
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>>2755096
>hospital makes one million in profits
>to avoid taxes on this one million, they make a fake one million bill they never expect to be paid and write it off as a loss
Hope you learned something.
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>>2754172
I hope you get cancer and the hospital takes every single dime you ever wageslaved for.

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>>2755173
Dahlias are also highly toxic to cats bro.
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>>2755180
Not even close to the level of lilies. Ive got a garden full of dahlias and my cat never had any trouble
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>spend 325 dollars on manure and mulch and 165 on a fuck ton of pots
Why can't all purchases be fun and exciting like new plants
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>>2755197
But I got excited to throw down mulch/wood chips and decorating just like I did for planting. The cost is the worst part about gardening, why is literal dirt so expensive?
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>>2755198
every base consumer product/staple is 95% value based on transport costs. soil included. shit like grains, potatoes, rice, basic beans, you get the idea. the cost any singular product that is basically worthless, yet you purchase at a store, is based on transport costs. think of those disposable wood paint brushes, most common hardware like nails and nuts, etc...

of course, you could always just carry a 5-gal lowes bucket in your trunk. then, next time you're at the park...fill it up.

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When I go backpacking I like to bring flour, yeast and salt and make flatbread. Everyone with me loves it but I never see anyone else do it. Anyone else make food in the outdoors that doesn't come out of a bag?
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>>2754769
I'll eat raw meat left out for hours.
Don't worry about it mate, unless you're hiking for a full day.
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>>2755141
>misinterpreting a type of bread as being specifically for subhumans
Sure thing lady
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>>2755094
I like it puffy
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>>2753845
Bannock is north american canoeing kino, friend.

If it answers your question I make things like Makaroni po flotsky as the only ingredient that needs to be "cooked" is the macaroni. I use a Czech surplus steel mess tin which is essentially 2 small saucepans and a lid. I move around a lot, so it's good to have a small piece of kitchenware that you could use in your home.

In the UK you can buy these small disposable BBQs at tesco, I might bring one next time (and take it back with me, littering bad) :D
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>>2755199
A classic way to cook /out/ is with a trangia. That is what I last made bannock on. But they can be pretty pricey and overengineered, and most importantly NOT larp friendly.

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Have you ever been CAUGHT by a forest janny?
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>>2744964
>no restrictions on logging
>loggers come in and gut entire forest
:O
it’s like you retards have never seen what happens in countries without these regulations. do you know how many species the chinese have decimated in the last decade because they can just do whatever they want?
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>>2738811
City mentality
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>>2752487
>The scandinavian view that nature is a communal good and the wealth of the nation that citizens are entitled to use respectfully is the objectively correct view.
that is what the National forests are in the US- which encompass an area larger than the all of Sweden.
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>>2755195
He probably has not met the modern american negro or mutt. If he had, he would understand the necessity of regulation given there are even many golems on this board.
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>>2755196
>derp
holy shit you talk like a retard


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