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>#540- "yiff in hell" Edition>Previous Thread:>>>2875910>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>Talk about fishin
>finally get my first fish of the year>it's a pike the length of my hand
>>2877552I almost lost my 7lb brown trout that way. I was knee deep in freezing water in my work clothes on algae covered rocks trying to get down behind it after watching it fucking backflip a thousand times on the way in, and just as I leaned in my dropshot hooked the rocks and popped the line, I dropped the rod, went in with both arms and just splashed the fish and a ton of water up onto the jetty where I was fishing before it had a chance to kick off. I almost vomited on the drive home my adrenaline was going so hard.
>>2877365its time to get into golf
What the fuck is this. 25 minutes later it came up to the rococo was standing on, lazily tried to get a crane fly, and slowly swam away. Didn’t give a fuck about anything.McKenzie river
Higher res. It was so weird. If I had my net free I could’ve tried to net it at the rock but my pliers were it it and also it was bigger than my net
Last thread >>2856593This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spentan evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>how to get startedPurchase a corn cob pipe (or a cheap briar pipe) and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco from a smoke shopor online. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool.Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.>smoking a pipe will give you cancerOriginally the Surgeon General found that pipe and cigar smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time whenmost adults smoked, so they had a good sample size), had insignificant death rate increases. Nowadays, tobacco is beinglegislated against while hard drugs are being legalized. Put two and two together. Tobacco is just another good thing under attack by the government.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2876231>pack them like diamonds and breathe in like a sprinterdon't do that either
I ordered a sample of Ennerdale probably around 2 years ago now. I believe it was October/November, around the time it starts getting colder. I gave it one test bowl, I think I got a headache from it, and I wrote it off so hard that I didn't even bother to jar it and I just let it dry out in its little plastic baggie for weeks before eventually moving it to a jar. I don't know what came over me, but I decided to try that sample of Ennerdale out again. For reference, it's 100F outside. And for whatever reason this blend, which I wrote off so hard that it's now dried out and leathery, hit the perfect spot on a 100F day. I might need to give Lakeland blends a revisit during sweltering summer days.
>>2876262it’s always worth re-visiting blends you’re questionable over. First time I tried Luxury Bullseye Flake I thought it was just flavorless hot air. And I saw nothing special in my little tin of HH Pure Virginia. Sure enough, I came back to em a year later after they just gathered dust and suddenly I was addicted to them.I think blends just need a right place, right time. Even blends I know I like, such as orlik or elizabethan mixture, don’t hit the same if I’m not in the mood for them.If you don’t like something, jar it up and give it another go later
i'm pretty new i usually smoke rollies got a cheap cob and a cheap hardwood pipe from the same brandtried a random mixed shag and some peterson royal yacht, early morning, nightcap and deluxe navyi'm in the uk idk how that varies availability but i'd like a rec for an aromatic to try
idk why i expected anyone to answer my questions but here's my personal blog since thenred cavendish is awful i can see why people said aromatics are a waste of time. its not very nice to smoke like a regular tobacco, much too damp.really enjoying plug tobacco, got some st james plug, seems to have a subtle sweetness and reminds me of the navy rolls a little. plus i enjoy the preparation, i've been slicing curls off with a knife and am considering trying to use a knife style paper guillotine i have to slice if i buy more than 15g next time, may post resultsgot a budget cashew pipe with a nice wide flat straight stem, straight stems are my type i think i smoked it at sunrise on the banks of an estuary after hammock camping nearby on tuesday, made for a nice start to the day went with some more st james and the french ration meal, kebab meatballsi'd like to find a plug thats cigarette mild so i can slice it into rolling tobacco as a tax loophole to smoke,asking for recs
Hello everyoneOffboard faggot here, I'm going to montana in October of this year. Gonna be staying in redlodge, which is an hour away from yellowstoneAnyone have advice about the best spots to visit? It's a huge park and while it won't be the only thing I'll visit, Im definitely going to try to spend maybe 3 or 4 days there. I'm going for 7 in total. I'd also appreciate any suggestions for other things to do in southern montana, mostly, but I am open to seeing parts of wyoming, tooI'd like to be able to see some kind of big lake and go on a boat or something. Hotsprings would be cool. I assume there are atleast some spots as it's a le supervolcanoSome things I've looked up already are>bear tooth senic drive>a couple trails around red lodge>a senic dinner train I couldn't get tickets for :(>a zoo in billings to be able to see all the yellowstone animals in a more controlled and safer settingAny suggestions and advice would be appreciated!
>>2877489>What's living there like?depends on where. its a huge state. 4th largest>>2877489>I've been looking at some placeswhere?>What are job opportunities like?Where? Bozeman- good. Malta- terribleThe places you would want to live are not nearly as cheap as you think. Its cold as fuck in the winter (-45F), unless your skilled in contruction, you will be stuck with service jobs like mowing lawns in the summer and plowing driveways in the winter. Please go to Texas
>>2877489There aren't really any high paying jobs, residents hate outsiders and new transplants. You definitely cant afford to live in the western part of the state and you definitely won't fit in culturally. Enjoy tejas.
>>2877525>>2877520DamnThat sucksI guess I'm fated to be a texasfaggotI don't agree with you that I wouldn't fit in with the culture though. I hate chicago/illinois culture and politics and would do my best to assimilate with my surroundings. But I guess living there in any kind of luxurious capacity, which would be the dream, would require me to either have enough money in my dragon hoard or have an extremely rare artist type job, like a best selling author or something... maybe someday...I looked into housing prices for emigrantThat's the dream. One million dollar home surrounded by mountains and freezing to death in december
>>2877520>whereI was mainly looking around billings and the smaller towns outside of it along the highways. When I scrolled west on the map the listings got rarer as they went out of my price range settings. Ideally, though, I'd want to live outside of a town mostly surrounded by nature. Cabin in the woods type feel. But im just dreaming now
>>2877543I thought internet cynicism had killed off your kind. I mocked you once, but now I see you like the elves on the way to the grey havens. Continue on, you delusional vagueposter king.
What does your backpacking kit look like & what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail? This is my basic kit alot of the gear is 10 years old or more I have recently added a camp chair & a little bidet that goes on a water bottle. My favorite piece of gear is not pictures but it is a frybake pan which is basically a lightweight dutch oven I will be using it on my trip at the end of this month to roast a chicken & make stuffing.
>>2876804Child detected.
Guys who carry an IFAK, what’s in your kit?
>>2877023An actual fucking IFAK, not a boo-boo bandaid kit. Tourniquet, wound packing gauze, compression wrap, NPA, etc. But I've also had training to use that stuff, and enough experience with medical emergencies, that would mean helicopter life flight from innawoods or death, to be overly fixated on trauma preparedness.
is buying gear better than renting gear
>>2858015>>2861524>>2863465>>2865926>>2865933>>2868107wheres the bulky tent
The trouble with courgettes editionpastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hügelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm, biochar, vermicompostingLast thread: >>2868554(Un)official /HGM/ discord: https://discord.gg/TvN3Ed4Geh
>>2877416Man I'm jelly, 90% of mine got white rot
>>2877421These are beautiful
>>2877030We did it Reddit!
>>2877550One of mine is bent on world domination
>>2877551Beautiful
Where did I take this picture today, are you able to get the exact location? It shouldnt be to hard. Post orginal pictures of your recent outings that you took and if you did not go on any recent outings, think about why you keep making excuses instead of just going out even if only for a couple of hours on a small hike.When coming back to this board it feels like 80% is just larpers. There are almost no original pictures taken anymore and 50% is gear threads. lets try to change that and post real pictures that you took.
>>2877127well this is a lot better than my sloppen piece of shit :[
Nice place for a coffee
>>2871005
Yotes in a dry river bed
Up in the high country a little while ago. Work has been a cunt lately and its hard to get time off.>>2874745Is that the pink lakes near Underbool? My wife and I were there on our honeymoon.
I live in a small valley in the alps, i will keep checking people's windows at night because it makes me feel so dreamy and alive. Much like when you used to go on a school trip early in the morning and you felt really weird, like when it rained the day before. I need to. I need that freedom of wandering without judgment as children do but without the fear you had when you were looking for dangers in the night. Every house it's like a little closed world. Aren't cats lonely to sleep alone? I stopped to stand near a cat because it felt depressing. This reminds me of yellow lights.
I love the night time vibes too Anon
Good way to identify tree species in my area(northern VA) for people that cant read books? I bought the Audubon field guide for north eastern trees but it doesnt help me at all. Theres like 500 trees or something in that book idek where to start or really how to use it, i think books just aren't for meWhats the next best way to identify and retain the info i learn?
>>2877367They get their mom to do it for them.
>>2877366use picturethis, its a app the datamines you that you take a picture of a plant and it tells you what it is
>>2877366Look at leaves. Easiest way. Just take a picture of a tree, match its leaves to a picture in a guide book. (Try to get full color ones.)
>>2877367I like shapes, always been really good with them>>2877378Dont want datamining apps buy appreciate the suggestion>>2877387This actually gives me a good idea. Ill make my first tree leaf scrapbook. That way ill have all the leaves up close and personal, making it more likely to retain identification info
>>2877411Good on ya lad. No shame in learnin'. Hope you find lots o' nice trees to identify.
This is a serious question. I have some land to clear for fruit bushes and fruit trees, and will be milling the larger logs into timbers for other projects. But, I plan to get a chain flail type chipper shredder to to turn all the leftover slash into mulch and compost for the fruit. The land has a lot of raccoons who love to destroy berry bushes. I'm wondering if anyone here has experience putting dead raccoons through a chipper shredder to add nitrogen and minerals to their compost. I'm guessing I'll be making around 4 or 5 tons of mulch and have anywhere from 80 to 120 raccoons to add to it. If anyone has tried putting raccoons or comparable mammals - jackrabbits, beavers, coyotes, etc. - into woodchippers I'd like to hear about your experience.I'd rather not bury dozens of whole carcasses in my compost pile, and if shredded I assume the raccoon material would compost faster and mix in better. And yes, during fur season I'd save the pelts - unfortunately most of the shooting and trapping would occur during the summer months since that's when they'd be after my berries and plums.
>>2876972Found the glowie
>>2876972Theres a pickup location and a destination. How and when the truckers get there is left upto them.This isnt a secret.I guarantee truckerfag can back me up on it.
>>2876162The practical answer is to just put the racoons in your wood chip piles.It seems counter-intuitive at first but fresh animal carcasses are actually the thing that wood chips need most in order to actually be compost.
>>2876162If it can handle wet woody brush mixed with 2 inch wide branches, it should be fine.I don't know why you're bothering. Just burry the racoon corpses. Shredding them makes raw hamburger that is breeding mass for flies.
>>2876203I'm a land surveyor and was contracted to measure the tallow drain network at a JBS processing plant. Pile of rotting carcasses were the least offensive part of the day. Massive tanks of "hot blood" "cold blood" "rendering" etc. Tallow doesn't flow at 2% so it was difficult to get inverts of those pipes. I don't know how the Somali and Hispanic workers do it. The next month I had to perform a topographic survey of the manure settling ponds. The acrid smell of sulfur in the mixing manholes was awful, worse still is that a few died in the very manholes I measured months earlier. The milk factory was the third of my bovine-product surveying trifecta, and that was a walk in the park compared to the others.
No but seriously, why cant i just buy a cabin and live there instead of a normal house?Its cheaper, more private and gives me great opportunity to do outdoor activities. Lots of cabins run on solar and have adequate plumbing, yet the cost remains low. Only thing i could think would be a challenge is winter, but even then i think a 4x4 and backup heating/electricity and lots of firewood. It would also give good homesteading opportunities.
>>2874655By the time most men have enough money to buy a house, they almost always, somehow have a wife and a kid to take care of, the kid needs to go to school, needs friends need everything, even tho you know you can take care of the kid, easy deal, but your wife doesn't agree with you, deep down she just doesn't want to live like that, cuz she " manifested " smt else, but she tells you that we gotta buy a nice house in city for the kid, she guilt trips, telling you that that family can't live forever in your little man cave and to stop being selfish, but deep down you know she just wants to satisfy here own, " manifestation ".
You can. But its no coincidence healthcare and health insurance are retardedly expensive. The government is going to make it really fucking hard for people to drop out of society and healthcare is the "stick" in this case.
>>2877440im almost 50 and have inly went to the doctor twice in my adult life. i dont see what the big deal is about muh healthcare. maybe its because everyone is fat now days.
>>2877451well you bankrupt your family if you get sick without health insurance or just die. Even if you plan to just die you will proably puss out and just bankrupt your family instead.
>>2877456You can't bankrupt people with medical costs in the U.S. Theres actually a federal law that prohibits it. It doesnt even affect credit scores.They can send you bills but thats about it.Just more propaganda thats shoveled to europoors about thw U.S.
Changing jobs. I have a few options to choose from. How would you rank /out/ potential in the following places:IowaIndianaOregonSacramentoWisconsinMinnesota
>>2877332Yeah I was thinking similar. Cost of living isn't horrible for cali standards either
>>2877315Come to Oregon we have a costco
>>2877315>IowaThe driftless area is the only place worth hiking, everything else is nebraska-lite
>>2877315>IowaShit.>IndianaVery mediocre.>OregonExcellent.>SacramentoCities are gay.>Wisconsin>MinnesotaBoth okay, if you like cold.
>>2877333White people were a minority in Sacramento 30 years ago. But even then atleast it was groups of hispanics and groups of Vietnamese and groups on negros...Now its the epitome of the mutt memes with random mystery meat behind every door.
Anyone from /out/ tell me if the Kantamus 60L is worth it? Looking for an endgame backpack that will survive the apocalypse.
>>2876843Can you recommend any good EU alternatives for a 60L backpack that works well both for hiking and for use with a plate carrier and gun belt? (as durable and rugged as Savotta)
>>2844793This is a really annoying form of advertising.
>>2876843If you have an "EDC", you are a raging homosexual.
> buy a Kahakka> D-Rings start fraying the sewn straps> Contact Savotta> "LMAO Bro, just use silicon based solutions to prevent friction haha"
Is there anything out there similar to the Jääkäri M (30L, some front access) that is not absolute aids for walking but has better shoulder/hip straps?
How dangerous is solo backpacking? I live close to Appalachia and any time I talk to someone about going on a solo trip people talk schitzo-tier about how I'm going to die, disappear, or worse.Not even because of the nature specifically, but because of le paranormal, inbred mountain people, cannibals, accidentally stumbling upon illegal operations in the mountains (heard this one specifically a lot), etc. You get it, the list goes on.Anyways, is there any truth to the danger or is it just the average small-town tall tales and superstitions? Seems unlikely to me as I feel like if it was so dangerous you'd be seeing a lot more of it in the news.
>>2872583i literally only go alone because everyone irl is a loser that doesnt want to do anything other than sit at home
>>2872583The wilderness in the gorges in west NC are fucking creepy as hell, even with people, since they are abnormally dark and cast with shadow due to being so deep between tall mountains. They really feel like the dark forests you see in games or old medieval movies. I heard stories from my dad about tales he heard during his solo work travels in the mountains, and the ones in the general region that involved supernatural entities were:>Will o the WispsMalicious ghostly lights that trying to lure individuals into dangerous situations or into getting lost.>Brown Mountain LightsWandering ghosts (usually natives looking for tribe members lost to battle).>Yunwi Tsunsdi or Moon-eyed peopleCave-dwellers with large crescent shaped eyes that are nocturnal. Cherokee legends tell of driving out these creatures.>U'Lag'uGiant yellow jacket the size of a house that would snatch people and carry them off to never be seen again.Dad used to tell a story about the brown mountain lights passed down from some time after the colonial days where people would observe trails of the lights moving through the mountains like a line of people with torches. The tale recanted that they were native search parties formed of spirits looking for lost warriors from battles from over the eons. In this story, it was said that they were observed traveling in vicinity of a distant cabin across a valley where a settler lived alone. Other local settlers went to visit him after and found him scalped with his eyes and tongue ripped out and missing.I've been out myself to the gorges region and stayed overnight a few times. I haven't personally seen anything that ever looked supernatural, but the feeling as you become more isolated in those mountains almost feels oppressive at times like something doesn't want you there. Normally nights out are pretty loud. But the creepiest times when you're out there remote is when it is dead silent at night. I don't know if I could do it solo, bros.
>>2872583The danger of solo hiking isn't any of that shit you mention. The danger is getting conventionally injured. If you trip and break your ankle/skull/spine, then there's nobody to treat the injury or go for help. Best case scenario you call for help, but if there's no signal or you lose consciousness, you're fucked. Even if you get a message out, without somebody mobile to flag down rescuers it'll be harder to find you, and you might not have the time to wait if you're badly hurt.I go out solo all the time though. This is the danger, decide if you're willing to take the risk. Safest group size is 4 - one to treat a casualty, two to go for help so that they aren't alone if they get injured too.
>Are you a man with reasonable athleticism, the ability to plan ahead and make reasonable decisions for what is within your ability and to respect unsafe weather?Not dangerous at all.>Are you a small woman but otherwise reasonable in all respects?Not very dangerous, although mountain lions occasionally attack small children and women. Nonzero chance of a dangerous "man.">Are you an idiot who makes bad decsions such as inadequate water, supplies or clothing, unrealistic fitness goals for speed and distance and disregard for dangerous weather?Might be dangerous.Overall very safe.
>>2876987You desperately need to go outside. Your mythology isn't even correct.
Alone airs tonight, lets get the seasonal thread going as they are some of my favorite comfy threads. This year its "Alone: World Championship" This season, survivalists from seven different countries are represented including the United States x3 kek, Canada, Wales, Australia, Slovenia, Portugal, and New Zealand. It is set within the Arctic Circle along the rugged Richardson Mountains in the Northwest Territories of Aklavik, about 150km from where they filmed Season 11Hopefully its more interesting as I found the last few seasons lacking
>>2877446the one woman came really close some seasons ago and it was like day 100 but the douchebag guy decided to just hibernate in his shelter all day every day and she eventually called it quits
I am liking Andrew but more than anything I am a Jacks hater
>>2877448callie i think her name was came real close with the season with roland but got frost bite on her toes so they pulled her. psychologically she was doing great. she's waifu material
>>2877516i also think mommy nicole would have had a good chance if her MS didn't flare up. she seemed highly knowledgeable but she also had some of the muh keeds problem going on too.
>>2877516i think thats her, sounds familiar but i'm not even sure what season it was. i liked that she was actively doing stuff right til the end while the guy had given up on eating or even moving and was just hiding away in his shelter all day. that shit would have got anyone else medically extracted
