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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

Looking for /out/ book discussion and recs. I just started Sand County Almanac, and recently finished pic related. American books preferred, but everything welcome.
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>>2874220
it's a masterpiece and about respecting and working with nature, but i'm not sure i would call it /out/. it's more about human nature in general
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>>2872862
Why is this book for sale in every adk bookstore, how did you come across it
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>>2873997
He was so vindicated, I went to the arches last year and it was a traffic jam of jeets. I got turned away at the gates because i dint make an appointment.
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reading this right now and it's kino as hell

#539- “boat fishing” Edition

Previous Thread:
>>2872194

janny pls…

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

New Bong Fishin Guide
https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq

Talk about fishin
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Should I get one of these instead of a Shakespeare
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Tried tenkara with a guide in Takayama. Was fucking awesome you guys are a bunch of haters
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>>2875475
I wouldn't buy any rod you've been looking at.
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>>2875487
what helpful insight you nigger

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>shluuuurp
>leaves bullseye to mark domain
>nothing personal kid
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>>2875398
what's the solution?
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>>2875434
https://youtu.be/svzTat79UFM
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>>2875327
Not my problem.
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>>2875357
maybe I should add I simply use picrel to spray on shoes and jackets and soak my socks, pants and hammock suspension (not the tree straps) in it. Idc. It's a trade off and I choose the cancer and titty growth accelerator over lyme and encephalitis.
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Forget about Lyme... worry about Alpha Gal.

No but seriously, why cant i just buy a cabin and live there instead of a normal house?
Its cheaper, more private and gives me great opportunity to do outdoor activities. Lots of cabins run on solar and have adequate plumbing, yet the cost remains low. Only thing i could think would be a challenge is winter, but even then i think a 4x4 and backup heating/electricity and lots of firewood. It would also give good homesteading opportunities.
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>>2874655
I wish I could buy a piece of forest and live there but in my shit country that is illegal. Someone once did it and was raped by subhuman pieces of shit in uniforms (aka STASINAZIS).

But I wonder if I could buy or rent some property and live there inofficially while keeping official apartment for my welfare status and legal adress. Would that break any law just as if I was permanently camping somewhere else in the forest? I receive "Grundsicherung nach SGB XII" due to severe disability.
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I find myself in a somewhat lucky situation to live in the middle of nowhere but haviung neighbors drives me crazy. Whoever was here before me build two sheds into the forest nearby, these must be older than myself (assuming D-Mark price tags) and likely illegal themselves. But no one ever cared.

My long temr goal otherwise is renting a forest house / holiday home for permanent residency but the problem is they usually have no registerable adress. 20-30 m2 would suffice if I had enough land, I intend to build a greenhouse and live in it anyway.
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>>2875364
>>2875365
>perpetual poster from DACH region claiming
"It is illegal to go outside. The law states it is not allowed. Thus Ithe law is preventing me from doing so as I am unable to act without permission."
>citing largely unrelated case
That guy was building without a permit on land that wasn't zoned. In a very densely populated country you can't have everyone build wherever they see fit, you'd have nothing of the little 'nature' that is left remain after a few years of this. There would have been zero issues had the dude just been sleeping in a hammock or tent.
>wellfare
>address
>residency
>squatting and wasting living space
KYS
>tfw literally everytime I visit /out/ it is crowded with germs seething about how they can not /out/ because muh lack of permission - which is wrong to begin with and retarded attitude.
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>>2875401
>everytime I visit /out/ it is crowded with germs seething about how they can not /out/
If it makes you feel better, im one of the anons that made it happen.
>you might remember me from previous episodes like "I almost died the first winter because my cabin had zero insulation, electricity or heat and it was 17°F"
>or perhaps the sequel "I"ve been shitting in a 5 gallon bucket for 2 years while I save up enough money for a septic system".
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>>2875477
I did the 5gal bucket thing for a while, then I just started digging holes at the bases of trees on my property.

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why are outdoors youtube vidoes so comfy?
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>>2875126
wtf
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>>2874396
They aren't. From what I have seen they promote unrealistic standards and fixate on being outside as a means to its own end. Meaning they entirely focus on living in or around the campsite. Meanwhile actual travels are entirely neglected - understandably because the audience isn't interested in hours of marching. But also because the content creator simply drove a motorvehicle up to the site they want to film at and set up lights and cameras.
So essentially: Those guys always present the audience with objects no sane or actually outdoors person would ever dream. of bringing out and they will spend alot of time and energy trying to get as comfortable as possible at a campsite while in reality after a long trip you barely have the energy to pitch for the night and hit the hay before sundown.
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>>2874396
alright boys post your youtube /out/ girls
https://www.youtube.com/@peppersteps/videos
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>>2875480
Why do sluts like this have to make every single thing into taking "sexy" photos? Her tats are terrible too
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>>2875483
because it's just onlywhores packaged so the johns can pretend they aren't in a parasocial relationship with an internet hooker.

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What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?
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>>2873355
>i would never recommend it to another person
Why
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>>2875048
I've heard it called a 7 hour movie with a 50 hour game inserted into the middle.
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>>2851480
NTA, but a couple white kids cross a desert with their spear chucker guide in order to escape evil poachers. It's actually really good and has a young Reese Witherspoon.
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dead mountain tv series was pretty good
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how has no one posted grizzly man yet? kino documentary, dude was asking for it though

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>I suspect that Ms. Huguenard' s
screams (which sounded eerily like a predator call) may have prompted the bear to return and kill
her.
https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/03-109_KATM_Treadwell_fatality_REDACTED.pdf

What did Larry mean here by “predator call”? Did he mean that the woman sounded like a bear in a predator mood or that she sounded aggressive?
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>>2875445
What causes someone to make posts like this?
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>>2875447
Retardation
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>>2875447
A deeply seated misogyny.

you need more
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>>2875286
hold up anon
the gearfags need to tape their toesies for blisters
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>>2875406
my blisters had blisters for years
not my feet are immune to everything but sunburn
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>>2875411
gearfags wont adapt
cant resole your whites during the endtimes
ill lready be in the cthulhu cult by then performing the initiation rites
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>>2875432
>he hasn't mastered leatherwork and cobbling
ngmi
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>>2875435
>just cobblin

>Marmot Tungsten 4P $400
>Mountainsmith Morrison EVO 4 $270
>TNF Trail Lite 4 $400
>ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 4
$250
Any recommendations? 80% ADK 10% Green Mtns 10% Catskills
4P is probably as small as I can go, basically family of 4 though none of us are large
Thank you for your help
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>>2875372
thank you, of course, they are the 2 impossible to find now? discontinued perhaps?
>>2875362
they are simply too heavy, like 15lbs, everything has moved towards car camping market (gotta park those sasquatch broncos somewhere)
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>>2875399
Nta but Walmart tents are some of the lightest tents I've ever used. Do you have weak arms and a weak back or something?
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>>2875354
Big Agnes or nothing, do not listen to people here, they are gorpcore LARPers
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>>2875354
Check out Kelty. They have good quality-to-price ratio. Just make sure to read the specs. Some of their stuff is heavy as fuck.
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>>2875354
>4P
>backpacking
Pick one (1)

Wow im honestly suprised I was able to post from here.
Anyways, hammock thread. Im in a bog, its currently 99°f
Share hammock tricks, tips and nips.
Let's talk hammocking and chilling outside.
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>>2875420
i sleep in my hammock alot during the summer. might do it tonight
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>>2875420
reporting in
>>2875416
fix your suspension like ewww wtf. How do you even live with that?
>bog
In those pants? And still clean? Ypu got weird bogs around there.
>>2875428
dude is that mold?
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>>2875443
Just because i live in a bog doesnt mean im a fucking savage ogre i take care of myself. Also, my tension is fine.
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>>2875446
>tension
I said suspension. Whats that? Continuous loop to beener directly to tree strap? Well nvmd you do you have fun with it.
>take care of myself
So you simply hover a few inches above your bog whenever you go there? Understandable why didn't I just think of that sooner.
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>>2875443
>mold
i dipped it in a bucket of bleach water the other day so it should be dead

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The trouble with courgettes edition
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>>2875389
You could eat that many. Maybe bake a pie or two.
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I’m looking for a garlic that I can grow in 8b humid sup tropical environments (San Antonio that ideally requires no chill time in freezer if anyone has experience
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>>2875463
Softnecks are what you want. Look up different varieties and see what looks good to you
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>>2875464
I’ve tried Italian early ,Texas rose,now I’m gonna try Messidor and ichtium red,I want to know if anyone else had success and what they grew,that Texas rose is apparent descended from thehalletsville garlic ,but because of Jewish globalism it’s not commercial production anymore and propibly lost some of its warm summer adaptability when I tried it,
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>>2875464
Both the Italian and my rose formed unibulbs this year ,the previous year the rose produced actuall cloves,any other than that I guess it would have to be a breeding program to make garlic work down here,any anons done garlic breeding ?

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Crossbows arent archery edition.
So we havent really had one of these threads in the fast handful of years.
Post bow builds, your plans for hunting this upcoming season, your target species, your arrow build, etc.
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>>2874981
GA.
We're lucky to be able to take 10 does and 2 bucks per season. Hogs have no limit, season, and are really good eating when prepared right.

>>2874980
How hard is it to rabbit and squirrel hunt with a bow? seems like it would be difficult because of such a small target? what ranges are you shooting them at?

>>2875013
Bear makes decent bows, prices aren't bad either. buy one that doesn't break the bank and just shoot it until you figure out you like it or until you get really good at it. Most bow tech peaked in the 90's so you're not going to see a massive difference if you bought one that cost 2k vs $350
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>>2875097
>Bear makes decent bows, prices aren't bad either.
This. I have a Blackout Epic and it does everything I want it to. I do plan on upgrading a few parts here and there, but last year was my first year bow hunting and so I wanted to get a feel for it first.
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I've thought about getting into bow hunting, I'd get a longer deer hunt season, and I have a friend who gets a lot of hogs near his land and a bow wouldn't alert the neighbor's dogs like the .308 does.
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>>2875341
It gets addicting and you'll eventually won't want to hunt with anything else because of the challenge bow hunting gives. You do have to get closer and getting the perfect shot is much harder than with a rifle. You have to learn discipline that firearms hunting doesn't teach you, and you'll start taking your time to get that perfect shot and when you do it makes the payoff so much more fulfilling.
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>>2875403
That's what I'm hoping for. It's easy to take out a hog from 150 yards but getting to 30 or so with a bow will make me improve overall.

trying to decide between binocular or monocular. probably either the vortex solo 8x36 or vortex crossfire 10x42 HD. help me make a decision.

use case would be just something fun to have while /out/ and about and maybe even in the city. so smaller size of monocular seems advantageous, but binocs seem easier to hold steady and give a sense of depth.
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what about compact binoculars? best of both worlds?
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I prefer binoculars, you're going to use both hands to keep it steady, might as well use both eyes too
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i ended up getting compact binos witth 8x zoom. my first impression is that they are pretty good! however, i also think that 8x zoom does not really make much of a difference compared to my normal eye sight. i don't get much more information than my naked eye already does. and at the distance where the binoculars would make a difference e.g. by being able to read a sign, they are usually so shakey that i can't make it out anyway. so i would need a way keep it completely steady.

i am gonna test them some more but there is a good chance that i will just get rid of them completely. i think a noticably bigger zoom would be more fun, but i don't see a point in spending that much money and carrying around so much stuff
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>>2874918
I find 10x to be the sweet spot. Any higher and it becomes hard to keep your target actually in view. Only use higher magnifications if you want to look at stationary objects exclusively.

I bought these on Amazon for $40. Work perfectly

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y4MNGW8
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>>2874092
if eurofag, delta optical is a good choice. i have the forest 2 binoculars and i'm pretty happy with them. 10x50, pretty good in dark conditions, compact, rubberized, heavy off course

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I'm here, but I'm gonna find myself homeless in the next few months, what do I need to be a hobo? So far I have
>tent
>backpack
>two ponchos
>a few tarps
>a butane stove
>sleeping bag
>tent fold up mattress
Thing is I'm not sure I can carry all this on my back at the same time, at least not without walking extremely slowly.
I'm mildly disabled and broke my spine a few years ago and I'm worried about being bogged down with gear, especially considering my tent is a large, pop-up tent that doesn't dissassemble into parts
>just use your car
If I use my car the local cops will take it off me, being poor and homeless is not allowed in Ireland and they'll take everything off me

So should I get a new tent? or is there a backpack that I can get that will allow me to carry a tent and mattress easily, even if I'm using a crutch to walk?


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>>2872498
It is way easier to be homeless in a city so that is where you are going to end up. You can find and collect a lot of garbage you 'need' just by scrounging, and a dumpster dive results in a meal whereas a stove doesn't conjure up calories out in a field. Sleeping bag, tent, and the rest can go into ciggies and booze.

The only thing you will experience that is close to Thoreau's or Kerouac's adventure will be the best sex of your life. Vagrants, vagabonds, drug addicts, all fantastic lovers. So long as you aren't a man of abstinence or too picky about whose or which hole is being used.
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>>2872498
>>2872558
Come up north and try. Also, if you ever start making money, save up for a boat you can live in ASAP. You don't want to be living on the streets with a bad back. You can get one worthy of living on for about 3-4 grand if you're lucky, but it just wont be fancy. You can sell em on and buy better boats if you scrape up some more. Plus you can have boats fitted with a stove. You can live comfortably and very cheaply, the dole will get you by if you're smart about it. And you can fish. Free food! If you get a boat while in the north, make sure you have it in the Erne so you can go cross border. Always keep your options open
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>>2874470
I'm in Fermanagh. Some of us locals like to camp down the Erne on the Islands. Especially for fishing and wildfowling. It's great. Haven't done it in years though and you need a boat. Or you can just camp on the shore, either. Obviously that's not close to you but i've met random dubs down the lough, so maybe it is worth it for you guys idk

You find them by being familiar with the landscape and knowing the country outside the pale, or outside towns. There is an infinite amount of places good for camping. Take an interest, open your eyes, son. This is God's own country
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>>2873807
>I was merely pretending to be retarded haha
>>2874758
I won't even fuck vaxxies, what makes you think I'll stick my dick in a vagabond or druggie?
>>2874782
That's actually sound advice, I'm gonna look up boats, if they have enough space for my tools and my books then I'd be pretty happy
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>>2875457
>That's actually sound advice
Glad I could help. You gotta use your noggin
The sooner you get it done the better. I know people who live like this


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