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Everyone knows this state is a shithole in every regard. Someone please rec a better /out/ state to move to for a former NorCal fag and list your pros/cons. Money's not much of an issue.

>inb4 inb4 inb4
kys
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>>2784066
Aren't you guys hated in every state you move to?
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>>2784066
>west coast is the best /out/ coast11!
>all that brown
uh
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>>2784066
Your passport out of California is a firearm that's illegal in California.
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>>2784066
Texas
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>>2784066
You can head over to the southeast. Kike propaganda and democrat shenanigans have made it a shithole too, so you'll fit right in. I'm saving for a couple of years and moving off the grid to live off the land. Somewhere no dumb nigger or dim witted woman will ever set foot.
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>>2784066
The Midwest really sucks, don't go there.
I heard Idaho is great. Its still affordable and regulations are lax, because not enough Californians have raped it yet. Try that.
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>>2784156

There should be a 10 year voting cooldown for ex-Californians.
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>>2784066
you'd fuck it up anyway. just stay where you are.
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>>2784066
interesting, I thought it would be more white. I knew it was all lizards anyway
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>>2784066
>new york green
>oregon brown
yeah fuck yourself
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Stay in Cali, but go to Colorado if you have to move
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>>2784156
This. The Midwest is a decrepit bigoted shithole. It sucks go to Idaho
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>>2784066
>Iowa
>dark green
kek, I take this was done during corn season when the stalks were green still
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>>2784833
Exactly
>fly over Midwest
>its brown 75% of the time
They don't call it flyover country for nothing
Listen to >>2784569 and avoid the Midwest. That's where George Floyd was murdered after all, its basically the 1800s still.
Colorado is as far east as you want to go. But Idaho, Idaho is nicenive heard.
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>>2784835
>>2784156
>>2784569
I went out west on vacation and in Idaho all I saw was shirts, stickers, and magnets saying "We're full" and shit like that.
>>2784066
Colorado is fantastic, maybe not the east plains side of it
Utah could be cool i guess. Half of it felt like a barren desert, the other was mountains and civilization
I only saw parts of West and East Wyoming but I'd imagine it's mostly tourist hell to live near the cool parts
Northern Idaho seems great, Southern not so much besides a few spots
Western Montana is great, The entire North side of it east of Glacier should be avoided at all costs, especially around the Indian reservation
I was only in a bit of North Dakota but honestly it was pretty built up area and not too bad looking. Lots of oil pumps though at least where I was.
South Dakota has some great spots, but I also imagine it's just tourist hell year around for normal citizens living there
Can't say much about Minnesota, some of the cities have good food though
Wisconsin is great. Been there multiple times now, would recommend.
Kansas also had its moments of cool rolling hill landscapes (central , east). West appeared to be flat farm hell where I was.
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>>2784514
or is like half desert
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>>2784838
>>2784835
its called Eastern california you old fags. your so out of touch you probably still think the dollar is worth the same as it was in 1970.
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>>2786193
Why the fuck did you reply to me? My post has nothing to do with california you autistic spaz.
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>>2784835
Still crying over that jogger? It was four years ago, get over it. Have sex or something
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>>2784838
>The entire North side of it east of Glacier should be avoided at all costs, especially around the Indian reservation
why? tourists?
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>>2784514
have you been to either of those states?
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>>2784066
>NorCal fag
No thanks. Stay in your containment zone. Besides, you nigs and larpers never shut up about how great northern California is anyway. You love it there.
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>>2787873
>why? tourists?
nta but he is likely reeeeing about the sparse esthetic of the great plains. Only larpers cant enjoy the beauty of the hi-line.
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I just want to go to a red/purple state where my vote actually matters and shitlibs and leftists don't destroy life and make it impossible to do anything via regulation and whatnot
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>>2787937
then do it and stop being a whiny bitch on an imageboard about outdoor activities
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>>2787964
But I crave attention and validation.
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>>2784066
It doesn't get much better than California
The more states you visit, the more you will realize how accurate the map is
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>>2784066
NW Arkansas. Bentonville-fayetteville-eureka springs area.

Hot job market. World class art. The best mtb trails in the nation. Low taxes, safe schools, low cost of living.

9 months out of the year it's beautiful.
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>>2788016
That map makes no sense. Oklahoma has some of the GOAT bass fishing. Camping and 4x4s and hunting.
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Are there WASP areas left that aren't blue?
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>>2784066
just come to alaska, you'll fit right in

pros
>expensive but high salaries
>PNW/west coast vibes
>conifers
>dudeweed lmao
>skiing
>there aren't a ton of small towns interrupting nature like the east coast
>actual mountains
>a ton of transplants, so the worst treatment you'll get is a joking cheechako once in a while
>snow for winter sports
>not full

cons
>cold
>dark
>snowy
>fucking mosquitoes
>bears
>if you don't work in healthcare, transportation, or heavy industry, jobs can be hard to find
>fucking mosquitoes
>smoke
>california girls are MUCH hotter and usually better people
>up to 6 feet of snow on ground in the mat su valley, 4 feet in interior, so hiking isn't an option for half the year

next best choice is probably eastern oregon or washington
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>>2788018
never left Oklahoma? Not even in the 50th percentile for any of those things aside from bass fishing
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>>2784838
Minnesota's a good state for fishing, lots of lakes! It gets even better the further you go up north. I'd say 2 hours north of the twin cities area would good enough.
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>>2788016
Northern Georgia's fucking awesome- what, did you go to Atlanta and thought Georgia sucked?!? Get out of here.
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>>2788233
I would not personally list conifers as a pro…
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>>2784071
The interior west is mostly scrubland and desert. It's the Cascades and west that are that vibrant green with dense undergrowth that you see in a lot of pictures.
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>>2788016
Classic bait LOL
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>>2784066
most of alaska is unexplored unironically
do with that what you will
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>>2788233
PLEASE don't tell more Californians to ruin Washington itt.
Washington is the worst state for /out/ don't listen to him. All the photos you see of nature here are AI generated by the tourism board. There's nothing here don't bother checking it out. Fuck off we're full.



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