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The new /sci/ wiki
https://4chan-science.fandom.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki

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To use MathJaX, put your TeX code between [ math ] ... [ /math ] tags for inline equations or [ eqn ] ... [ /eqn ] tags for block equations.

[eqn]\zeta(s) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^s} = \frac{1}{\Gamma(s)}\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^{s - 1}}{e^x - 1} \mathrm dx[/eqn]

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Reminder: /sci/ is for discussing topics pertaining to science and mathematics, not for helping you with your homework or helping you figure out your career path.

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>oh no! who could've known this was going to happen!?
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>>17009875
You know what *would* be a huge consolation to them though?
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>>17009870
Consider that when Earth was in an ice age the planet was only about .5 C cooler than 1850 temps. Yes, the difference between there being glaciers which stretched down to Ohio and not was about .5 C. In reality 2 C of warming is massive on a geological timescale, and the planet has never been this warm in the entirety of humanity's evolutionary history.
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>>17009896
Explain why ice cubes cool a drink better than stone cubes. When you do that, you'll be able to understand why your post is stupid and how whoever told it to you for you to repeat verbatim, correctly pegged you as a fool.
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>>17009916
What's your point? Ice cubes melt as they cool a drink, and the stone cubes do not.

The reason why it only took .5 C of warming for the glaciers to recede thousands of miles is because ice has a lower heat capacity than water. If you're stupid that means it requires less energy to warm up ice by 1 degree than to warm up water by 1 degree. We are technically still in an ice age, so now at 1.5 or 2 C warming it's basically guaranteed the remainder of the glaciers will melt over the next decade. All of this is to illustrate to you that whether it's .1, .5 or 2 degrees of warming, all of it has a cascading effect on the Earth's environment. The glaciers reflect the sun back out into space, and while the water from glacier melt adds more mass to store thermal energy in the ocean, it's agreed the overall effect will be further warming once the glaciers are gone.
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What if... hear me out, hold on, what... what if we just continued doing absolutely nothing and hoping it fixes itself, and we die before it gets really bad, and just leave it to the next generation like every generation before us?

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Dark matter is not real and there's not strong evidence found that is real after decades of experiments.

Is as real as jehova and allah.
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>>17009944
God is real and it's Jesus.
Shitentists make up garbage in order to fill their pockets with white men's money
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Is it casted out energy from atoms quantum properties?
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>>17009944
>Is as real as jehova and allah.
The fine Tuning of The Universe is very strong proof of God but you are correct, jehova and allah are both fake and gay. God is the creator of The Universe, who sent his only son Jesus to die on the cross so you might be saved.

And yes OP, Dark Matter is also fake and gay. Modern cosmology is trapped in a Sunk Cost Fallacy trap by where they can't admit they were wrong and thus must continue to waste time, money, and their lives chasing ghosts that never existed. Many such cases.
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>>17009945
FPBP TRVKE /THREAD

Riccati Edition

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>>17008675
True in Z/2Z
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>>16994418
No it's not lol. It's not like, a calculator, or even really a computer, it's essentially an extra-sophisticated slot machine.
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Howdy.

I've been on /g/ since 2013 and I'm just popping in to say that your hatred of that place is 100% justified.
That board is a joke.
The most polite thing that I will ever say about it is that it's absurdist 4chan humor taken to an extent where the people legitimately forget they aren't being serious.

When you hear that there's a community oriented around technology where people discuss the merits of advanced computer programming, you'd probably think that these people are smart.
If you're particularly neurotic about the sciences and feel like you don't "fit in" and are afraid to ask questions then you might miss that these people literally never say anything substantial.
If you pay attention whatsoever, regardless of your competency with technology, you find that it's absolute idiocy and absolutely nothing ever gets accomplished there.

This is a very long-winded way of saying that these people act like morons and are actually morons regardless of the show that they put on.

Their behavior is bizarre, because it's all over the place.
They are absolutely sure that all of it is correct and they're so sure that they will literally never back it up with a good argument regardless of how hard you push them.

This is the most dangerous kind of idiot because they're capable of using complex machinery like the train and the electric light but are hopeless to understand it.
When I say "understand", I mean employ basic intelligence. "Throwing the baby out with the bath" and not using a 60 year old rusted tool because there's some kind of merit to it, refusing to use a tool because there are other people that they don't like that use it, an inability to understand nuance, a general pattern of "missing the bigger picture" and adversely a pattern of making extremely broad sweeping statements that miss the finer points.

The place is useless and no it's not "a prank bro". These people are idiots.
It's hopeless to argue with them because the response is "install gentoo".
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Does anyone know a good road map to learning ( re learning ) mathematics? I have been up to undergrad level math, but I didn't properly learn / integrate the material so I'm familiar with a lot of stuff despite not really truly understanding it.

I keep running into comp sci stuff that is math heavy and it's very hard to digest as I don't have a proper math background
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Why is actual math never discussed in this general?
>Durrr i just passed muh exam lets talk about university departments brap

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CERN is off until 2030, that means no new physics will be released for the next 4 years, thoughts?

https://physicsworld.com/a/cern-says-large-hadron-collider-has-exceeded-every-expectation-as-it-shuts-down-ahead-of-major-upgrade/
https://home.cern/cern-bids-farewell-to-the-lhc-and-enters-long-shutdown-3/
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>>17008594
If yurope really cared about the fate of the Earth they'd shut this place down and replace it with a well-managed natural forest
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>>17008594
That's fine, we have GTA 6 physics to keep us busy.
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>>17008594
Worth it for higgs, but has been overall a disappointment
>>17008647
No one gives a fuck you retard
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>>17008778
>run same 15 second experiment fifty times
>collect data from 5000 sensors, many just thermostats and power sensors not even near the test chamber
>collect the data 24hrs before and after each 15 second experiment at gigahertz sampling rates, faster than most sensors can reasonably update
>generate petabytes of "data"
gg no re
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What do most of the scientists and other personnel do until 2030? Very few of them will be involved in the construction of the newer version of the collider. Do they just show up to work each day and dream up new experiments? Seems like most of them are highly specialized so expecting generalist work out of them might be unrealistic.

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>>17009807
they have made progress on all of those
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China will get it done if there is a usecase for it. China is the train country now after America cucked to the car Jew a century ago.
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>>17009814
>they are

>geotechnical unpredictability

Pretty sure in the year of our lord 2026 we have coring machines and so the ability to know exactly what we are going to be drilling through

>Environmental permitting

It's a hole through the ground, not a chemical processing plant. In a rational country this could be safely ignored or minimised to a degree that doesn't interfere with the project so long as you aren't plopping a tunnel exit on an endangered turtle nesting site or whatever.

>utility relocation

What utilities? very few utilities are deep enough to post an obstacle to a tunnel.

>right-of-way acquisition

Jewish red tape extortion racket

>hyper-local regulations

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>>17009950
>progress
So they don't have any of them.
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>>17009849
Can you list all of the public transportation systems actively using quasi-hyberloop other than the short tunnel in Las Vegas?

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This just looks depressing.
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>>16965401
GOOD
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>>16964911
>We should torture you to death via human experiments and crimes against humanity.
The average totally sane scientist everyone! they would never lie!
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>>16957858
It is!
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>>16973426
>all these people wearing long coats working on heavy machine tools

spooky, wonder how many people got liveleaked and fed to lathes back in the day, must have been a lot.
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>>17009894
We can take back our inventions and you can go back to living in mud hovels while the local lord fucks your wife if you would like? Maybe you can burn some witches alive while you are at it?

How are they suddenly so smart in stem?
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>>16971484
>suddenly
Holy fucking shit...............
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>>16971484
They're not smart. They're just human LLMs which can say reasonable sounding things but never make original discoveries.
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>>16971484
Don't know about China but South Korea went autistic at the government level to pull themselves out of third world status through STEM.
>"Think about what happen in Brazil. Decades ago it decided to become the best in the world. Scouts scoured each and every village to find the most talented kids. It did not matter if they were rich or poor, black, brown, or white, lived in a village or a big city, had powerful parents or were orphans. If they were good, they were supported, mentored, tracked and trained. And eventually, the country won. Time and again ... Until there was no doubt they were the best. Brazil beat the world five times. The tragedy is that Brazil chose to do this in soccer....Meanwhile, South Korea chose to do exactly the same thing ... in math and science. Very different outcomes."
South Korea used to be below Brazil on almost every development metric. Now they've left most of their former peers in the dust.
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THEY ARE SLANTY EYED RICE EATING THIEVES AND LIARS ALL OF THEM

AAAALLL OF THEMMMMM
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>>16995127
1 child policy didn't apply to ethnic minorities (a lot of the country since all sorts of fujianese and yunnanese get classed as a minority for some reason), rural peasants (most of the country during the time) and people with a little money who could pay the fines.

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>Free Will doesn't exist. It's just chemicals.
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free will is so conceptually retarded I don't know how anyone is still pushing it
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>>17009885
because it's the default hypothesis. it feels like we have free will and arriving at any other conclusion takes some mental work.
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>Free will DOES exist, and it's chemicals
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>>17009893
Literally impossible to disprove. OP and /sci/ BTFO.
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The allowed possibilities of choice isn’t seen as Free Will to some people. Hm.

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Would having a philosophy and rhetoric board make 4chan users smarter on average?
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>>17009921
>When they intend their statement to be taken literally, then formal logic applies. When they don't, it must be parsed through the filter of human parlance first.
What a crock of complete horseshit.

That is nothing more than a tool for you to you (and other NPC's) to attempt to wriggle out of reality, truth, and logic.

>muhhhh when they intend to
And how do you decipher when they intend to?

>Ummmm, you should just know ok! It's subjective chud!
Oh, so like i've said you've destroyed the possibility of all truth, logic, debate, and comparison of views and ideas. Good job.

Or you can go down another sophistic route like you keep doing
>Ummmm it's secret social knowledge ok! you cant know it and it cant be explained its just magic

Your shit is stupid and honestly your way of thinking is disgusting and anti-truth. And you have the nerve to slander those who value truth as just annoying obstacles who should be ignored. No, you should be ignored, totally.
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>>17009925
Seems I've touched a nerve.
Look, dude. It's okay if you're not a "people person." A lot of people aren't. Some people really do have a hard time navigating the complexities of human interaction. Maybe you have latent autism and asking you to grasp this level of nuance really is an ask, I don't know you.
What I can tell you is that the sort of explicit rulesets you're asking for are not what you're going to find in humanity.
You're better off talking to an actual machine if that's what you need.
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>>17009933
Ah, the appeal to autism, the oldest valid argument in the book.

You're a clown bro, you just conceded the entire debate in a stupendously idiotic fashion, thanks for playing, hylic. I hope you one day find your soul.
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>>17009938
>Ah, the appeal to autism, the oldest valid argument in the book.
Hold up, is that... sarcasm? But that's verboten!

Okay, jokes aside, it's been obvious for some time that nobody's gonna convince anyone of anything here. There's not even an audience to posture to as, trust me, nobody's reading this thread at this point.

Your position comes down to a demand that human interaction, especially on serious matters, should follow a rigid logical framework. You see people's resistance to abiding by formal rules of logic as fundamentally at odds with "The Truth."
I see the quirks of social heuristics as the cost of participating in social interactions. People often sacrifice accuracy and clarity for efficiency. I see the demand for absolute logical rigor in human communication as being at odds with observable reality.
There is no way to reconcile these two positions.

On the bright side: in our mutual stubbornness, we managed to derail a dumb thread about a board that will never exist with a pointless argument about the NPC meme that lasted for what, 3 days?
I don't know about you but I'm pretty amused.
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>>17009941
Well at least you found some value in it, it's all subjective though of course so I can't ACTUALLY know whether you found value in it or not because it could all be an elaborate sarcastic avant-garde art piece I can't apply basic linguistic logic to, lol.

But regardless, I very much respect your willingness to at least attempt having a proper debate with me, most people wouldn't be as committed and put their money where their mouth is so to speak. I would hope you'd see you didn't bully the retard as you'd predicted.

And I would lastly hope you and anyone reconsider their unwillingness to have a dialogue with someone about something that gives you knee jerk discomfort, at least sometimes, because you may gain some or even great understanding from their perspective, maybe not for 3 fucking days though of course, i'm exhausted but also found great value in it.

If there is only one objective truth I could ask anyone to consider it is that debate and the very act of trying to understand things, individually and collectively, is worthwhile on some level, this we all call philosophy.

I wish you well.

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Which is your favorite /sci/?
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>>17009624
The concepts of triangles?

Just saying it out allowed without context sounds weird.
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>>17009639
the concept of right triangles specifically
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>>17009035
I like sine because it's the mainstream option and I want to go against my usual contrarian habits
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Hyperbolic secant is the best. Sech, or following naming conventions it sounds like "sexsh"
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>>17009355
and it still gives you cauchy CDF which is most pathological "looking normal" function in statistics
>no moments defined
>mean too isn't defined and if you try to calculate it numerically you will get a string of random numbers going nowhere.

Also love me some hyperbolic function (which are trigonometric functions with irrational angle). Special relativity wouldn't be the same without them

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>take a super long, hard, big poop
>look at the toilet
>nothing there
>go to wipe
>nothing there
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED!?
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Science cannot explain this.
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>>17009937
Being a shitentist sucks when you can't do shit
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>>17009937
A theoretical toilet monster consumed your poop and wiped your ass. What a bro.
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slick scientists make them slide right into the pipes without water wastage.

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What is the science behind being a wizard?
FYYYYYYREBALLLLLL
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>>17008263
You got to make friends with plasma first, but it's pretty difficult because wizards are notoriously socially stunted
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>>17008263
Life is about orb. Its all about chasing the orb. From the moment you opened your eyes and mind. The orb is always the one you seek. The orb in you, the orb in other. The orb in trees. The orb in cars. The orb in the sun. The orb of the universe. The orb of language. The orb of math.

Life is about chasing the orb. And our inability to understand that there are no orbs
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>>17008263
I notice a lot of people accidentally cast fireball in their kitchen when deep frying.
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>>17008263
Is it fire? Then it’s physics. A wizard is a physicist. A fireball isn’t not fire. Casting a spell isn’t not a science, if a kind, even if it’s wibbly wobbly woo, or practically alive. There’s still something there.

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Do cells have consciousness?
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>>17009049
Probably not.
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>>17009049
Yes.
The cell is the most basic unit of life.
You are nothing but cells.
If cells don't have consciousness then what does? You would have to argue that consciousness somehow exists somewhere outside your body which there is no real evidence to suggest. And of course there's nothing to support the idea that anything not made of cells has consciousness either.
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>>17009898
Consciousness could be formed from your neural network in your brain, which is made from cells, but that doesn't mean each cell is conscious
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>>17009049
Lets imagine they do for a second. Put yourself into the shoes of the cell. What is your existence like? As a young stem cell, are you excited to know into what kind of a cell will you turn into? Are you proud that you are a cell in a heart or are you jealous that you are not in the brain? Do you get sad when your own twin brother cell stops responding to you? Do you get scared when a virus flies over you and pushes its big dick straight into your brain, overwriting your memories with its own, turning your whole being into a virus factory? How desperate do you get when you realize that soon you will explode and doom rest of your twin cells into the same fate?
Of course you dont know any of this. All you know is that this hurts and that feels good. But did it always feel good? Are you capable of remembering that? You do have some memory but not really for this. You just do what you are told. You have orders to fulfill printed into your very existence. You dont have to think or predict anything. Just follow the god damn orders and survive as long as you can.

I think it is better if we imagine they don't. Life is fucked up enough and doesn't need more suffering. They have no need for it. There is no advantage for them, no self realization unless you think cancer is that very thing. There is no grand future to imagine for a cell. Who am I kidding, of course they do. This universe doesn't have any notion of decency. If they were not conscious, would they try so hard to live? Whats worse it doesn't even matter since it all runs on statistics anyway.
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Cells are biological machines, but then so are we. We just have enough complexity and international state to self model, and represent ourselves in the world.

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Why aren't we allowed to talk about global warming policies on the SCIENCE board?

Is it because jannies are reddit tier climate change shills?

Discuss the authenticity of climate change and the consequences of climate change policies in this thread.

>inb4 banned for talking about science by basedience TM jannies
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>>17009418
>Because policies are politics, not science.
and yet when you oppose climate policy you're accused of science denial
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>>17009409
They've imported enough 3rd worlder consumerist slaves who do exactly what they government tells them. And if they haven't they'll just import more to take up the slack for what you refuse to buy, while also ensuring that your grandchildren are brown.
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>>17009495
Via your government social credit score and doctor fauci anal probe. If you use too much carbon it will anally shock you like pavlov's dog but worse.
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>>17009493
How would it know the reading is fucked? Insight from shart gpt? Camera constantly recording inside my own house?
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>>17009418
We are discussing whether the "science" behind the policy is correct or not, you bad faith scientism shill.


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