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The new /sci/ wiki
https://4chan-science.fandom.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki

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To use MathJaX, put your TeX code between [ math ] ... [ /math ] tags for inline equations or [ eqn ] ... [ /eqn ] tags for block equations.

[eqn]\zeta(s) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^s} = \frac{1}{\Gamma(s)}\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^{s - 1}}{e^x - 1} \mathrm dx[/eqn]

Note: You may preview the output by clicking the TeX button at the top left corner in the quick reply window.

Additional supported file type on /sci/ is PDF.


Reminder: /sci/ is for discussing topics pertaining to science and mathematics, not for helping you with your homework or helping you figure out your career path.

If you want advice regarding college/university or your career path, go to >>>/adv/ - Advice.
If you want help with your homework, go to >>>/wsr/ - Worksafe Requests.

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Use Grok for your scientific endeavors, suggest it to your lab if they want to use AI. Grok unironically does focus a tiny bit harder on science than other AI's even if it sacrifices 1-2 programing points. 6T and 10T models coming soon if you feel it's currently subpar, will definitely be the best for at least a few months.

Don't let Zionists rule the world, contribute to Grok and make it smarter. Any other AI achieving AGI first will create a permanent zionist world order until heat death.

Honorable mentions Deepseek/Minimax for minor scientific inquiries, and respectable alignment.

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Something can't come from nothing
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>>16958182
cogito cogito ergo cogito sum
kierkegaard already btfo that bullshit
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>>16958186
By what, killing himself? You're not one of those retards who thinks "pain is just, like, totally an illusion man..." until I punch them in the mouth, are you?
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>>16952754
At some point, something had to come from nothing. Otherwise how could anything exist.

Also, the big bang is not even a creation event, it describes the state of the universe in the distant past, but not how it came to be in that state.
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>>16958186
That was pretty rude of me, I apologize.

I've spent the past 6 months solving some hard problems and now normal people are like monkeys to me. I have become a colossal asshole. Your response was perfectly fair.

Just wrong.
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it's pretty gay we will never have all the answers for whatever the fuck reality is desu

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Youth funemployment edition.

Previous Thread: >>16929007

This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM.
>Discussion on academia-based career progression
>Discussion on penetrating industry from academia
>Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia!
>If you have a question, before posting, read some of the older posts and ,if you can, try to answer their questions on your post. That way the thread isn't an endless log of unanswered questions.

Resources for protecting yourself from academic marxists:
>https://www.thefire.org/ (US)
>https://www.jccf.ca/ (Canada)

Information resource:
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
>*The Chad author is seeking additional input to diversify the content into containing all STEM fields. Said author regularly views these /scg/ threads.

No anons have answered your question? Perhaps try posting it here:
>https://academia.stackexchange.com/

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>>16958169
As an undergrad who's in his 30's. Would it even be worth it?

What about joining a STEM related club?
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>>16958169
>in select cases/institutions you can have permanent research staff but not always.
in most institutions that are explicitly "research institutes" you've got sorta-staff researchers. it doesn't line up exactly with the academic tenure track. how permanent these positions really are depends on funding though, how much of your research group funding is provided by the institution itself vs how much is external grants
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>>16958177
>As an undergrad who's in his 30's
>What about joining a STEM related club?

If you're currently in uni and want to work in a lab for a bit it should be very doable. You can just ask a professor if they have student projects available, or your uni might have e.g. program for summer projects. These are relatively low-stakes and low-commitment for all parties involved. Being in a real research group doing real research is quite different from labs done purely for learning or demonstration.

Assuming you're the same guy who was interested in astrophysics, amateur astronomy is among the most lively amateur science branches. There very well might be a relevant club at your uni, and there definitely will be one in your country (probably even more locally).

Getting a career in the lab is another matter.
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Can have have a career in STEM while also being a wigga' thug?
I want to be a STEM luminary but I don't want to give up my thug wigga identity.
Like can I "roll up" to "da" research complex blasting "Do Yo' Chain Hang Lo'?"
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>>16958237
Yes, I am that same anon.

Should I join a club for rocketry or satellites?

>>16958331
You're a retard but yes.

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Do we actually almost have the tech to live forever? Based on this tech it looks like in under a decade our parents and pets will get to live forever biologically pending any external disasters

[YouTube] We Almost Have the Tech to Live Forever - David Friedberg (embed)

https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT07290244
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>>16958221
Here's a summary

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what engine and prompt gave you the response?

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Suppose a structure made of 255 cells. Is it possible to arrange them in such a way where each cell has a unique neighborhood?
The first structure is efficient because each cell is unique.
But the second and third ones has similar shapes which means some cells aren't efficient enough. (First Image)

I think I worded it weird so. What's the least amount of squares, structures, or rectangular area you need to make all 256 shapes? (Third Image, the square with no neighbours can be excluded of course.)

I managed to get 89 of them (Green Cells, Second Image. Actually 90 if you include the neighbourless cell) but I don't know if the minimum really is 256

THE HELL ARE THESE CAPTCHAS YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE
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>>16957703
Oh this is a neat question. Basically you are asking how to realize the most compact possible black and white bitmap where each of the 2^8 ways a pixel can be surrounded is realized exactly once? That sounds really tough. Like, I can wrap my head around 1D: suppose you wanna write a string of 1s and 0s such that every combination 111,110,011,010 occurs exactly once. It becomes immediately obvious that "010" can never be included in a string where all 1s touch. In your example, the neigborhood where all but the central pixel are white can never be part of the rest of the picture, so there can't be a "connected" solution.
I suppose my 1D example would have this solution: "11101011". Then, all possible neighborhoods (4) are realized by a string of length 8 (or less, if I missed something).
You could then ask "what is the maximum amount of neighborhoods you can get where all 1s are connected, and how long is the optimal string?" I suppose the answer would be "01110", meaning 3 neigborhoods and a length of 5. Your case seems like the 2D equivalent.
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>>16957810
"0111010" is more compact actually, so it is at most 7.
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>>16957812
Trying a proof:
the solution would have to have at least four 1s to capture "111" and "010", which means it also must have at least 2 0s, meaning the ideal string is at least 6 and at most 7 long.
You can just brute force all binary length 6 strings with exactly 4 1s and 2 0s which contain 111 as a substring: "001111", "010111", "011101", "011110", "100111", "101110", "111010", "111001", "111100". Those that don't miss 010 miss 110 or 011 instead.
So 7 is the solution with the neighborless cell included.
It also becomes clear that the number will vary widely even in 1D as you exclude select neighborhoods. So subsets of all possible neighboorhoods will give wild answers as a function of which ones.
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>>16957703
what, like a 2D cellular superpermutation?
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>>16958275
>superpermutation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,_or_the_Haruhi_problem

Can any dentistfags on here tell me what I should expect if I haven't gone to the dentist in 10 years? The inside of my bottom teeth basically all look like this, maybe even darker. Will I have to get all my teeth taken out and replaced with implants or are they salvageable? The more years that go by they, the less I even want to go to a dentist because I dread the bad news I'm going to get.
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>>16956805
>when you treat a doctors visit like being interrogated by the police
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>>16956775
They'll do a root planing, which is an ultrasonic scaler they use to blast all the calculus off the teeth.
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2 fake teeth award here
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>>16956775
>hasn't drank water in 10 years
Poor dental health. Discolored teeth may be a sign of infection needing extraction and root canal.
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>>16956775
Ensure you are sufficient in vitamins D3 and K2. Minerals boron (borax conspiracy) and magnesium. Use chlorine dioxide to mouth wash. Dont brush too hard because that damages the protective layer on your teeth. Look into no-brush. Rinse with xylitol.

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Mushrooms edition

>What goes here?
- "Vibe science"
- Computer science relating to AI
- Discussions of how AI will interact with science
- Pretty much anything related to AI that is on-topic for /sci/

In short, keep the board [math]clean[/math] and throw all of your slop here.
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>>16957752
Better mask up. He is so far behind, posting the ai knob slobbing him for being so great at steering the conversation with his geometric dicking. Easily two weeks behind the curve.
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Sweet, I can post my dunning Krueger slop here I hope? Apologies for the pure claudeslop AI psychosis writing, but maybe it has some merit or is at least entertaining as a theory.

For complex systems, there is a unifying principle: the reliance on a massive, structured latent reserve. A small active subset with a large latent reserve. What do I mean? Well...

Hibernating animals develop Alzheimer's-like brain tangles every time they enter torpor. Every time they wake up, the tangles fully reverse (Arendt et al. 2003, PNAS). The repair mechanism exists. It works. So why can't human brains do the same thing?

The answer may lie in time. During hibernation, the brain is deeply offline for hours to days — no neural activity, no metabolic stress, no new damage. The repair system runs uninterrupted against a stationary target. Human sleep offers only milliseconds of local offline windows across a few hours. For a young, healthy brain, that's enough. For an aging brain accumulating damage faster than sleep can clear it, the nightly maintenance window is too short. The deficit compounds.

But this raises a deeper question: what exactly is being repaired, and what is being damaged?
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Most of your brain's synaptic capacity carries structured signals that no downstream circuit currently reads — not idle, not empty, but latent. We can see this structure mechanically in trained neural networks. When you apply a gravity simulation to a neural network's weight matrices — repeatedly shaking rows and measuring which ones settle into high-energy positions — a stark structure emerges: ~1% of rows carry most of the energy — they activate broadly and contribute to nearly every output. The remaining ~99% are specialists: structured, coherent, but activating only for specific inputs. They carry little average energy precisely because they're specialized, not because they're unimportant. Align them against an independently trained network and hundreds of dimensions match with significant similarity. The reserve is structured, convergent across models, and essential — just not broadly active. Sadtler et al. (2014, Nature) showed the same structure in biological brains directly: motor cortex learning is constrained to a low-dimensional subspace of existing neural activity. The brain adapts along pre-built paths, not from scratch.

Your brain maintains this reserve constantly — routing around daily wear by reading from fresh latent capacity. This works as long as the maintenance system can tell reserve apart from waste.

Alzheimer's corrupts that discrimination. Hong et al. (2016, Science) showed that amyloid-beta aberrantly activates complement tagging — the molecular system marking synapses for removal. Reserve synapses, carrying lower activity and weaker protective signals, get misclassified as waste and destroyed. Shi et al. (2017) proved the key insight: knocking out the complement tag in Alzheimer's mice preserved synapses and cognition even though plaques remained unchanged. The plaques aren't the damage. The mistagging is.
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>>16958354
>>16958353
The destruction is silent. The functional core is untouched — clinical tests detect nothing. But the latent capacity is collapsing. Katzman et al. (1988) found this in human autopsies: individuals with higher brain weight and neuron counts remained cognitively normal despite full Alzheimer's pathology. Their reserve outlasted the corruption. Years later, when ordinary daily wear damages something in the functional core, the thin reconfiguration that would normally repair it reaches for reserve that's been destroyed. The damage becomes permanent. Then more accumulates. The trajectory — years of stability, then rapid decline — isn't the disease accelerating. It's a brain that lost its repair substrate, drowning in ordinary wear it can no longer fix.

Sleep is when the heavy maintenance runs. Xie et al. (2013, Science) showed that during deep sleep, the spaces between neurons physically expand by 60%, flushing out metabolic waste including amyloid-beta — the molecule that corrupts the maintenance system. One night of missed sleep measurably increases amyloid in the human brain (Shokri-Kojori et al. 2018, PNAS).

Which brings us back to hibernation. The repair mechanism that reverses tau tangles in ground squirrels isn't exotic biology — it's the same maintenance system human brains run during sleep, just given enough time. Lucey et al. (2023, Annals of Neurology) showed that just two nights of pharmacologically improved sleep reduced both amyloid and tau biomarkers in human subjects. The machinery works. It just needs a longer maintenance window than human sleep currently provides.
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>>16958353
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>>16958355
This framework also reshapes how we understand learning. Learning isn't building new structure. It's thin reconfiguration — a minimal adjustment to which parts of the existing substrate get read. Modifying less than 1% of weight magnitude, touching ~32 independent directions out of thousands, produces massive functional improvement. The information was already there. The system just wasn't looking at it. This explains why children learn from single examples — evolutionary "pre-training" across millions of years embedded the statistical structure of reality into synaptic connectivity. A child seeing his first dog doesn't build a dog-detector. His visual cortex already contains latent dimensions encoding shape, movement, and animacy. He makes a thin reconfiguration: when these pre-existing patterns activate together, that's a dog.

And the pattern extends beyond brains. Genomes show the same architecture. ~1.5% codes for proteins, ~98.5% is non-coding but conserved across species — a structured substrate that channels evolutionary change. Human and chimpanzee coding DNA is 98.8% identical. Nearly all the difference between species is regulatory — which parts of the shared substrate get read. A different species is a thin reconfiguration against a shared evolutionary reserve. Kirschner & Gerhart (2005) called this "facilitated variation": organisms are built so small regulatory changes produce coherent phenotypic shifts, because the substrate is already structured.

Already taking Cetirizine (Zyrtec), are there any ways beyond that? I do not wish to change my behavior and I want to be able to go outside
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>>16957575
I take diphenhydramine.
I've developed a resistance to the drowsiness after over 40 years of taking it. Fuck I'm old.
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Immunosuppressants , or even better: JAC inhibitors.
Neither JAC nor Antihistamines arrests development of further allergies. So if its permanent, because its Cladosporium or a common food allergen, or a pet....

Then the only real option is hypo exposure therapy, like OIT
While you live in a cleaner environment.


Get on the queue for OIT. Its not perfect, it takes about 3 months to reach the point of diminishing returns, then it takes about 3 years to year complete immune reset of said allergen.
But you don't want to do it because of that, you want to do OIT or hypoIT because it also stops your cross allergies(pollen -> you also get a mild peanut/aloe vera allergy). You also want to perform hypoIT or OIT to ensure your next potential allergy do not develop.
T. suffered with Cladosporium before getting it treated, leading to development of other fun allergies such as cat into cross allergy with mites.
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>>16958160
The last time i took Benadryl i saw a grey sludge overtake my vision
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>>16957992
https://paahjournal.com/articles/10.5334/paah.429
guess im just a lazy little chode
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Why are there so many schizophrenic types on this board

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Has science gone too far?
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>>16957893
>Kys newfag tourist
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Wait. Are people only upset because they are eggs sourced to white women?

When did you realize that the alleged “horrors of science” are based purely on lefty politics?
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>>16958196
>When did you realize that the alleged “horrors of science” are based purely on lefty politics?
All horrors are value judgements, and thus source themselves from either an individual’s or a society’s morality. Morality, while largely derived from the universal human experience, is subjective. Depending on how detached one’s morality is from the universal lived experience of mankind, one man’s horror can easily be another man’s nothingburger.
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>>16958196
>>16958245
Kek. When in the 21st century…
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>>16945131
we need to drop the age of adulthood to 16
like biology actually intended.

and do less summer vacation

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If I'm pushing and rotating a 3 sided wheel infinitely fast which side will be facing down after 10 minutes?
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>>16958267
some infinities are smaller than others
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>>16958273
Syntax error. The correct way to write that series is (0,-1,-2,-3...). Which, as you can see, does not stop.

>>16958291
That does not mean what you think it means.
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Just add infinity/infinite/infinitely to the spam filter already
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>>16958312
>Syntax error. The correct way to write that series is (0,-1,-2,-3...).
You seem to be trying to say "they either have to have no beginning or no ending and those are the same since we can look at the inverse", but you can make them with both a beginning and an ending, such as (3, 3.1, 3.14...π).
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>>16958330
You are referring to a convergent series. That's not the series "ending."

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>>16958259
What's wrong with calling a bird a bird?
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>>16958259
And they keep trying to give the T rex feathers, despite the fact that theres no evidence for it.
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>>16958266
Science has become one big giant woman.
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>>16958259
im actually dinosaurs didn’t exist at all and it’s offensive to call them that.

they were indigenous lizards of color who were living undocumented on planet earth
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>>16958259
Bitter lesbians and trannies come up with this shit to validate their poisoned worldview. We know dinosaurs roar because crocodilians roar. Birds would roar too if they were bigger.

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Math is the only thing that is real.

Reality is just one giant 3D slide show that for whatever reason exhibit consistent geometric patterns from one slide to the next. Identifying and describing said reproducible geometric patterns in mathematical equations is what science does, and the only thing that is real. All these other page upon pages of..words, aka "theories", are literal monkey talks. So long as the equation checks out you can grab any schizo theories off /x/ this very moment and it will stick.
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>>16957777
Is that true or just another prediction?
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>>16957801
Just a prediction. You are welcome to ignore it.
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>>16957647
you'd make for a great politician
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>>16956724
Maybe in general relativity, which is fine to find yourselves in your 20s, but quantum physics goes further with people to be part of the equation.
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>>16957813
How do you predict things that already occurred?

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>big numbers dont mean anything
Yes it does. They dont care if there is 2 million, 2 billion, 2 trillion, or 2x1024 galaxies, their argument would always be the same based on flawed reasoning, you could give literally any number for the age of the universe and the number of galaxies and it wouldn't matter (which is kinda embarassing for them when you put it this way)

>Intelligent life is hard
See how they say hard instead of impossible. They cant say impossible because we are here, but they may as well just say it considering how for them the statistically low the odds are that we are the only ones here in the first place, which is contradictory in and on itself

>fermi paradox says there should be conquered galaxies we would see by now
"Hey bro, just colonize a 100 thousand light year territory and maintain it logistically". Empires on earth struggled to maintain itself with only 3 thousand miles expansion.

>we cant see life or anything related anywhere
We can barely see planets surfaces on our own solar system or the bottom of our own oceans.

>abiogenes is soo unlikely
Yes, you are special. More likely you are one-in-a-septillion chance than the other way around.

Their reasoning is so flawed that if we manage to find one more intelligent life elsewhere, it would change absolutely nothing in their point of view. They would just say "well it happened twice instead of once, still doesnt mean its common everywhere", or "well NOW we know we are not alone, so intelligent life is easy to occur". But it still wouldn't make sense from their perspective because once or twice is basically the exact same probability considering the size and age of the universe.

And all that without even considering non tangible stuff like dark forest theory, non human intelligent life, etc

What causes successfull and otherwise smart high IQ academia individuals to be blind (stupid?) to such simple common sense and logic, what is this phenomenon?
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>>16958007
>bro they're right behind the light speed barrier
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>>16957127
The fermi paradox is a statement about *intelligent* life because radio signals are detectable from lightyears away. Biomarkers of unintelligent life are not.

You are right. Current data does not discredit the likelihood of alien life. However it does kind of discredit the existence of supercivilizations.
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>>16958038
Nasa's communicates with Voyager , 0.0025 light-years using a 23-watt transmitter. Earth’s giant 70-meter dishes barely detect it as a tiny fraction of a billionth of a watt after spreading, scaling this to light-years shows how weak distant signals become
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>>16957127
They say complex life could be forming now; there's been enough time, but I've seen much in the past.
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>>16957127
So you hypothetically have an argument if the future unfolds a certain way?
If God comes down and smites you then God is real. And because this is more likely than whatever you are whacking off about, my theory is better. Convert heathen.

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Can /sci/ write a masters in 72 hours?
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>>16938013
Yes. I did it over a week like 10-12 hours a day. The end result was bad but I was tired of uni and didn't want to spend another year.
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>>16947897
because ebeam lithography sucks balls
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>>16938013
no. you have to show around 4 months of research of which the thesis is the report.
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>>16938013
>Can /sci/ write a masters in 72 hours?
I wrote mine in like 6, because I just copypasted the published paper.
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>>16950220
that's a RIGHT triangle, you idiot!


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