>>265220
Wdym influenced? Boxing is too flashy and corrupt and wrestling is too gay so kickboxing it is

>>265410
Have you been punched in the head so hard you have a headache for a week?
Have you been payed less than a McDonald's worker ?

Have you got a dirty toe in your eyeballs causing you to go blind?

Just because you saw le heckin muay Thai on YouTube. What a slave

Not going to happen. First of all, purely on a technical skill level you're not going to be able to compete. You'd be going up against guys that have been training since they were 15 AND have a certain amount of talent. I've trained with guys that have gotten their asses beat in B-tier promotions but ran circles around everybody in the gym. The discrepancy between a skilled hobbyist and a journey man is as big as the discrepancy between a journeyman and pro fighter, and then there's a similar gulf between a pro fighter and the true elite top 20 in the world.
You can't even begin to comprehend the skill gap you would need to cross to get to that level starting from 0. Maybe if you're a one in a million generational talent and trained extremely hard for the next 5 years you could get there, but there's a 99.99% chance you're not that guy.

Even putting all of that aside, if you've never trained before you don't even know if you can even do the work. Maybe you really don't like getting hit in the head, maybe you don't like hitting others in the head, maybe you hate training, maybe you hate cardio, maybe you punch like a bag of feathers and have poor athleticism in general, and so on. People watch videos on youtube and get all these fantasy thoughts about what it would be like to train, and then all of that goes out the window after you get kicked in the liver for the first time and vow to never experience that again.

>>265619
Im not starting from zero though, I trained for a few years when I was 18

>>265661
It’s not happening. Elite athletes start out as kids. Your reflexes will never reach the required speed. You are delusional to think that a couple of years of training at 18 to 20, somehow makes up for the competition that started at 12 and never stopped. Even low tier amateurs of your own age will beat you to a pulp.
Keep at it as a sport that you enjoy for fitness and recreational purposes. You will never be a professional fighter, even if and that’s a big if, you had any talent above average the time has come and gone for that. Try to find something else that you’re good at and can have as a career instead. This fantasy will only give you concussions.

>>265632
>>265635
Point is to cover the possibility of a clown basho, that's why so many low rankers are included.
Still the cost of covering the likes of Kazuma or Kotoeiho or anyone over 30 are minimal.

The real question would be in knowing if anybody out of the big 4 are wrecked not definitely not going to win. I am under the assumption that Hosh has not recovered, but Onosato and Aonishiki have, but my information is extremely limited.
The possibility to get a premium on this basho is open already because two "favourites", Zak and WTK are not going to win for sure.

Do they not do all-stables practice anymore, or did I miss it?

>>265675
Onosato is the only question mark because he's been a retard about his shoulder for so long. He's more likely to go 0-3 than 3-0. And honestly any bet you want to put on outsiders just pile it all on Kazuma, the guy really is something else and this is the only basho where he's going to be able to farm losers for easy wins. Sure Kotoeiho looked great last basho but he was M13 and one of his wins was a fusen. He'll be lucky to go 9-6 in my imo.

>>265671
My condolences anon, hope you can enjoy the basho atleast a little

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2cjSGKnJD4

>>264405
Do you have MMA schools near you? They tend to have kickboxing programs. I’d train kyokushin if it was me.

any of y'all know how to effectively teep in an actual fight without shirts? whenever i try teeping, my opponent is just so goddamn slippery i cant do it effectively

>>264405
Most Muay Thai gyms are going to look a lot like a kickboxing gym, at least in the west. Chances are you will not be clinching or using elbows much. At my gym sweeping caught kicks is usually frowned upon (you just mark). Having sparred people from the kickboxing class I didn't notice any difference at all other than the clinch and that they seem to teep less.

My gym closed and I’ve yet to find a gym i like. Maybe it’s time to hang up the gloves for now I’ve done everything short of going pro

>>264958
>Most Muay Thai gyms are going to look a lot like a kickboxing gym, at least in the west.
Can confirm, I go to “Muay Thai” at an MMA gym and stylistically it’s closer to Dutch or Japanese style kickboxing. When guys from our gym go to fights they always fight K1 ruleset instead of Muay Thai.
>>265664
If you have extensive amateur experience it might be time to teach.

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>>261866
chess while getting pegged and spanked

>>261866
competitive B.C. Piezophile would

>>261866
Make the board life size with Hema characters.

>>261866
When I play it, yes.

>>261866
Are you retarded?

Judo or maybe even BJJ. Striking as self-defense for women is retarded. You're not going to out box a guy as a woman, you just don't have the ability to generate power like that. Plus there's several videos of women using Judo and BJJ in actual self-defense situations on da streetz so they get a +1 for at least having empirical evidence of their validity.

>>265620
It doesn't take much to front teep a guy and run or act defenceless and clock him in the jaw

>>265382
weight matters even in bjj

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>>265620
>Striking as self-defense for women is retarded.
Striking isn't just offense. Being able to slip or roll with a punch is important.

>You're not going to out box a guy as a woman, you just don't have the ability to generate power like that
Skill issue

>>265658
Wow this webm of a woman sucker punching a midget has truly convinced me that women are our equal in a fistfight

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what about "pre-karate" Okinawan Te, Kobudo, and other "primitive" forms? are they worth learning, or just historical curiosites?
>pic is Siam Island boxing, supposedly direct ancestor of Te

>>254680
That just doesn't exist.

>>251696
The rhythm element

Saw a bunch if really not helpful answers so ill put my input in as someone who has studied the origins and practices traditional okinawan karate and learned from someone who learned in okinawa.

Japanese karate comes from okinawa so its really not much different. The main differences are that Japanese people are like your typical strict military asians but okinawans are like your redneck farmers and are way more relaxed. This reflects in their styles where okinawans understand that one movement in a kata can have many applications so they don't care if people do the kata as differently as long as they are doing it in a way that makes sense in the application. Okinawans train with physical conditioning and sparring without pads.

Japanese are more strict in conforming peoples kata and certain things like if you're late to class you have to wait outside. But they also conform karate to military use and standardization. Many aspects are present in both because most of the karate students in okinawa in 1950-1999 were US marines stationed in okinawa so military tradition are baked into modern okinawan style such as lining up in order to rank and such. I dont have that many insights into Japanese karate but if i had to guess i would assume point type fighting would be a japanese invention as i know okinawans have a strong man tournament that is full contact.

Okinawan karate is 9 times out of 10 a marketing gimmick and to appeal to Americans who are still upset about Pearl Harbour.

>>264746
People are getting permanent brain damage from UFC careers and taking way more damage for very little money, something being sanctioned doesn't matter, you are an adult, you want to fight on pavement then fight on pavement. It actually looks safer on KOTs because they seem to be more cautious in how they fight because of the environment and rule set.

I really don't like UFC. I don't think they pay the fighters anywhere near what they should get paid, the weight cut system encourages CTE because they're dehydrated then get knocked in the head, and there's a lot of other issues but CTE and pay are the two big ones. I know several people who have been in UFC/Bellator and none of them are "rich" from it despite giving their best years to the sport, being on TV, being recognized etc but they sure as hell made UFC a lot of money.

>>264936
is fatty eye gouging the peak style? He could do anything, he's inna a good spot, he could ground n pound, he could try for a kimura, nope he goes for the eyes... what a chad and they know it too, that's psychological lol

>>264925
>>264892
this is why you never let anyone get "double unders"

the wrestler had good takedowns but not great control, a bjj guy would have kept him on the ground and submitted him, lots of wasted energy having to take this guy down 3-4 times until the fight stops.

Good fight though, good stop, no one got hurt. Not sure why anyone would agree to do this other than being young, feeling like you got something to prove, a low level of "fame" in your local mma scene. Which the last one is debatable because at my gym no one knew about KOTS besides me.

>>264948
>the weight cut system encourages CTE because they're dehydrated then get knocked in the head
You think they weigh in right before they put on gloves?

>>265131
You don't have time to properly rehydrate before a fight, you have intracellular and extracellular osmosis and homeostasis interrupted by the extreme weight cuts that is linked to lower fluid in the skull, which is less cushion for the brain, which increases concussion and CTE. End weight cutting.

What I do find interesting about KOTS is that it to a certain extent redeems all the kung fu "2 deadly for da ring" talk everybody poopooed for years. Things like eye gouges are in fact completely devasting. There's several examples (not only the one from the OP) where arguably an inferior fighter wins because he pulls off an eye gouge or headbutt. Things like that do dramatically change the game.
Obviously you still need a decent base in the fundamentals, but still.

Got called back at the end of class.
Apparently I need to stop doing dirty submissions during free rolls.
mfw I didn't even know there was such things as dirty submissions except for illegal shit like ground and pound and throat choke.
uhhh can I get a list so I don't embarrass myself next time? in my defense the other higher belts taught me this and didn't say shit about how dirty it was.

Sounds like a skill issue

Don't tell me /xs/ has a schizo issue as well holy fuck can you losers get a life

A couple of months in and I'm struggling in these situations. Any good athletes to take a look at who do more fundamental slower approach? I guess I'll have to look more in Gi competitions
>I get into Mount, opponent just cross his arms so I can't get the neck nor an arm. I could muscle two of my arms to one of his arms but he'll either sweep or control my arm once I go in. I have no idea what the fuck to do here. I only really know Ezekial/Arm Triangle/Americano
>Starting from sitting, I have no idea what the fuck to do. If I grab an arm and their neck they'll kick and sweep me from there. if we're in standing, I either get takedowned and get into someone's mount which fine I know how to escape or I take them down and I either mount (good but run into the first point) or enter their guard. (bad for me, I have no idea how to escape). I just feel like I have more control on what's going to happen while standing but sitting I blink and I'm in a more dangerous mount position.
>How the fuck do I get out of someone's guard? When I try to standup, they trip me with their hands, when they stand up they're already up before I can grab their ankle.

>>265607
I'm a no stripe white belt but these have worked for me so far

I have 3 moves to pass the guard depending on where their hands are

If I can grab both arms and pin them to the person or to the side, I will then stand up in a staggered stance(they can't grab your ankles then)

If I can get a 2 on 1 on one arm, to the side of the person, I will then start lifting their hips up by getting up slightly, slide their hand/arm underneath them, collect it with my other hand, and then put pressure on that side by putting my weight down and sliding up until they open up

If i can't control their hands then I strip their grips, push down on their hips, slide my left knee to the side, bend my body to that side, and then slide my right knee under the gap which has now formed in between them, the pressure from this should open their guard if you follow all the steps

Does anyone with more experience know if I can use this system forever? Or will this only work on noobs?

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>>253671
>>253686
>>253392
but I am a southpaw

>>253381
>how does one dodge and slip?
Practice on a slip rope, shadowboxing, double end bag. If you got a friend, have them work mitts for you and let them mix in straights and jabs so you can practice defense.

>>253712
This is the reason I dislike being a lefty.

got boxer's knuckle ;_;

>>260218
i got one too years ago.

>>253386
useless advice. you're not mentioning the most important principle.
>>253381
As far as said important principle.
Here is the most important part.
You need to measure/know the limits of human reaction time(always the same +- a little if guy is bigger=slower or smaller or skinnier=faster) and base everything you do on that.
The actual method of dodging you choose can vary quite a bit(builds/preferences/etc) but all of them depend on this.
I'll try to give you a shorthand estimate for various moves and you can figure the rest out yourself.
Jabs = too fast. can't react if already in range. must always read/predict. The reason why they set the tone and work with everything.
Also the reason your guard should be up ahead of time to cover for misreads on your slips.
Base your slip/parry/sway/any defensive tech or even counters/attacks on mental timings based on the moment you're within the opp's jab range and the moments before and after it too.
Also after you're already in range you need to grasp the mental timings or rhythm of your opp if you happen to go into an extended exchange.
Alot of this is based on constantly anticipating moves and moving preemptively.
Preemptive empty leading slipping/approaching/retreating movements can alter/control the opp's timing for attack so you should do those all the time. Since you're leading their aim and timing they'll need to also read you to land a hit. Then from this point on it becomes a constant reading match between the two of you and the one who understands the other better and makes more correct bets on everything will win.
Outside of jabs/unreactable moves anything else that is slower can be used as a feint on whether they will fully commit or not on the strong swing and they all intertwine with the jab metagame(via combos/feints/hiding moves behind other moves/fcking around with distance and aim/etc).

>>248053
Cold packs, then lidocaine aspercreme if not better

>>248053
just chill?

>>248053
sugar and caffeine= inflammation

>>259143
They're highly inflammatory, your body doesn't like proteins it can't do anything with

I'm having a shit time at the moment in Les Arcs, my boots are really fucking sore on my soles and calfs, I don't know if the board is even set up properly.

It at the state where every slope I need to take a rest after.

Also I'm on antibiotics, so maybe that's a reason.

>>259832
Are your boots or bindings too tight? I kept getting foot cramps and loosened both a bit and I'm doing better now. Need to change the degree on my front binding though because I'm at 0 (have been so for the 20+ years I've been boarding) and now my front knee is starting to hurt bad when it bends as I go over bumps. My while right is ancient and falling apart piece by piece on the mountain.

>>259844
I actually went down on the size and It helped a lot.

As for the binding, I didn't get that sorted cause the French guy was like 'aye mmuh sorrea, aye cannuh helph yuh'

>>260142
Made that French guy sound Japanese

'sup from /out/
I'm looking to get some goggles on summer markdown for winter hiking, should I just look for a flagship model like smith 4d? Are Anon Optics any good? The whole magnetic balaclava and face mask system looks really slick.

>>264473
>>264868
Thanks, I like it so far, challenging in all the areas that I lack, only going twice a week but will try to bump it to at least 3.

>>247737

and?

>>265428
And that's a bad thing for good people.

>>247737
Always knew kickboxing was more based than BJJ.

>got told to hold back a little while sparring by one of the coach
>mfw I thought I was one of the more easier going ones
I mean fuck some of the fellow people I trained with felt like they were about to rip off my head and desu I didn't mind that intensity, I like a good hard spar at 70ish% and get a few bruises in. tbf this coach usually does easy going spars at like 30%ish.... so maybe I ramped up a little too fast. shit's so awkward though, mofo literally scolded me like i was in the kid's class....

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>>265291
Hunter had the best whip over the leap jump

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if you saw the race you know

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I think Deegenerate Deegen was fifth six, sad. Prado did well but had nothing for hunter once he passed him. Some guy name moosedik from Europe was supposed to impress but shot his load too early I guess.

>>265379
>moose dick
KEK
yeah deeg went down first turn rip him, but I think hunta is faster than pajeet now.
probably that fuckin foot/ankle he is fucked like i said before
this is hunter's chip to lose desu.

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I wonder if mountain biking is safer than motocross

>>262046
This but with some minimum population requirement

>>262116
>>262121
Nah, the point is when you compete the other guy is going full out. And when you go state it's the guy who won against another guy going full out. Impossible to equalize anyway, an underpopulated place could have a world champ living there or something.

>>261247
Belts are based. Martial arts = sinking 100s of hours into suboptimally preparing for a scenario that is statistically unlikely. But if you get a belt on top, it adds a cool larp aspect. "John Doe, just a regular office worker, but secretly a karate black belt"

>>261162
>What's the best belt system out there?
gun belt

white = student
black = master
that's all you need. if you're still under a teacher you're a student.