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/xs/ is a place to discuss all types of extreme sports and similar physical activities, which include (but are not limited to) skydiving, surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding, climbing, rafting, bungee-jumping, parkour, BMX & mountain biking, airsoft, paintball, etc.

Ameri-do-te edition

discuss martial arts here

Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/8Vw9d7j

What to look for in a martial arts gym:
>Physically conditioned, fit participants
>Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully
>Sparring, "aliveness" in training
>At least one participant competes at amateur or professional level
>Physical conditioning part of training
>Clean facility with mats that are frequently cleaned

What to be wary of:

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>>194887
the purpose of this organization was to give sport karate practitioners a full contact venue, and now they're just putting non-karate practitioners in the ring. It's really dumb, basically just turning it into kickboxing if anybody is allowed to join up
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>>194905
>Shannon

That's what happened. The Lee women are experts at wringing money from the corpses of their men and the legends around them. They have no income without it, and have no desire to change their lifestyle if it goes away. What he was or wasn't studying really doesn't matter if they think they can sell it.
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I like judo, and I like striking (trained kickboxing) but I also like BJJ for the ground game, should I just do MMA training instead of focusing on one at a time?
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>>195080
Depends on what you like about each. Doing judo/BJJ/MT will be a different experience than doing MMA with some judo/BJJ/MT techniques.
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>>195093
I like to know bit of each, not into it for sports sake or to compete but to learn stuff from all. I'd do judo then bjj then x but that might not fit my needs too well so maybe if i can find good mma club thats not tryhard or bjj with standup game day and do striking in the gym with bag... not sure , i want to be bit above average guy in fighting, build cardio, strength

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Power rankings edition

>Schedule:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule/

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx

>All the sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

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>>195035
>Westerners need to understand
Are you not a Westerner?
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>>195052
I think Constantine XI would rather not be a king in that situation
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I became starved for sumo content during the massive interbasho doldrums so I decided to check out the older end of Chris's massive archive of sumo content and I found some good material that satiated my appetite. He has all sorts of neat stuff buried in his older content, what particularly turned me on was Chris's coverage of the elementary school and jr high championships. He has films of Hakuoho and other up and coming sumotoris back when they were just little kids.
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akinomaki has imbibed.
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>>195094
He deleted a huge amount of stuff when he rebranded to "Chris Sumo", but I have no memory of if any of it was valuable footage or not. I know a lot of it was him sitting in a chair reading his translation of sumo newspaper articles into the camera.

resurrecting the thread for muay thai. ask questions and talk about muay thai and muay thai related stuff

>Understanding traditional scoring
https://khunkaogym.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/a-laymans-guide-to-scoring-a-muay-thai-fight/
https://youtu.be/7J4gzeJO-4Q

>Live shows
>Siam Fight News
https://www.fb.com/SiamFightNews/
>Lumpinee https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYMw_GleQjXnKMjhCY58V4w
>MAX https://www.youtube.com/user/maxmuaythaichannel
>Ch8
https://www.youtube.com/c/Muaych8
>PETCHYINDEE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsN96OvHRSZWiecrdPvy5Wg
>ONE Championship https://www.youtube.com/c/ONEChampionship

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>place opens up a location near me
>check it out
>people lining up and bowing and doing calisthenics
yup that's gonna be a pass for me. So basically it's karate class for grownups?

let me give it to you straight. If I'm paying you for lessons I'm paying for instruction, I want the entire hour to be instructive. I'm not paying someone to have me do sit ups and jump ropes and shit
you're there to show me moves and give drills to improve them, not to fix my fucking squat
I wouldn't be going to a brown ladyboy midget if I needed exercise tips
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>>178915
Saenchai is a bad mother fucker!

https://youtu.be/Vq6irThIPCs?si=K1BZk6_5GyAJQ--8
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I have the fastest hands in my gym, praise me

I'm too self conscious to bring myself to go a local boxing gym. Never thrown an actual punch at a human in my life apart from my piece of shit mother when I was 14 years old (the cunt wouldn't stop beating me and had to be taught a lesson). But I've been watching some Chris Eubank Senior videos recently and now I'm hooked. How does a person get started on a budget? Also I can't have any hanging bags, I rent so can't damage the walls or ceiling.
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>>182863
Of course you can anon! You can even become an undefeated pro if you wanted to!
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>>182863
Boxing gyms actually love new people because you're worse than everyone there, which makes everyone else feel better about themselves, and because you make them feel better about themselves, they in turn like you.
And by the time you don't suck dick at boxing, you've been there long enough that you all know each other by then anyway.
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>>193586
I'm too shy. I'm 26 and I've put off my boxing dream because the thought of going to a gym is terrifying. Now I'm too old to ever start
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>>194996
Cease thy faggotry immediately. Managing fear is a skill that's developed through practice, so you'd best start now. What, you're going to spend the rest of your life being too scared to do things you want to do anyway? My God man, what will you do when you have to do something you don't want to do?
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>>195006
its not like I can get good at it at my age anon. if i cant make money doing it its hopeless.

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I used to do martial arts for like 6ish years in highschool but had to stop. But I kind of miss it and want to try it again but can't really go to a dojo due to lack of money and driving ability.

What are some good martial arts that I could learn from home relatively inexpensively. I don't really want to learn to fight and mostly just want to learn katas and actually exercise again
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Karate wins again

https://youtu.be/hst6LmqGwKc?si=n5Iq1nU-IwpSY3Ac
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>>195007
that's a good idea I remember most of the techniques and I still have the PDFs with the form instructions. Unfortunately my martial arts dojo doesn't really have much history or anything and mostly focused on self defense and point sparring and blended a variety of styles. Lots of jiu jitsu, joint locks, fall training that kind of thing in addition to some normal karate stuff like the punches and kicks and some cool flashy moves like spin kicks for the few forms we did.
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>i don't own a car so I don't get to do anything
Lovely country we've made
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>>194982
Fighting is, necessarily, a group activity. Because of this you really can’t learn to fight on your own. There are exercises you can do that may, to some degree, improve your ability to fight, but ultimately if you really want to learn you will need to do so with another person.
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>>194982
I'll level with you, you'll get more value out of learning to punch a bag fast and hard than you will trying to do any martial arts by yourself; because at the end of the day there isn't some "magic wushu anchient arto" that is going to save you from getting your face caved in with a knockout punch before you can react, or the same delivered to the gut instead, or to the balls instead. Until you've got somebody to grapple around, it stays theoretical and impractical, until you can iron out the issues and see how it actually feels to use. Simple shit works; finish your reps, throw in a Farmer's Walk, punch a bag for a few minutes, call it a day.
Learning to fall correctly a la Judo is probably the only thing you can do by yourself if you really want to learn something alone, and even then you can pick it up in under an afternoon (break the fall with your forearms, then maybe use some force if you can rely on the surface not shattering your bones, then break the fall with anything that isn't your head, done repeat until muscle memory).

>kata
Complete fucking meme, don't waste your time with borderline ballroom dancing bullshit. Fights aren't autisticly structured like that.

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But at the same time I also want to know how to throw a punch without looking like a retard. Am I going to have to sign up and pay for 2 different classes?
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>>194855
>I want to do BJJ so I can compete and not get brain damage
enjoy your spine damage
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>>195063
I am that guy and I kinda bailed on this thread for a bit because it sure seems like I'm wrong. Maybe I've just been lucky and come up in a good gym, but I've had no major injuries in years of grappling and competing and my current gym has had no major injuries as long as I've been here. We're not a mcdojo, either. We have a strong comp team and a few amateur MMA guys.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that any activity is going to have risk and while grappling may have more risk than running, you can mitigate that risk by how you train and who you train with. The spazzes in our gym are quickly taught how to not spaz or asked to leave if they are being dangerous. The higher level comp guys only roll with other comp guys or know to chill the fuck out when they're rolling with someone new or a hobbyist. I fully trust everyone I roll with to have my best interests in mind and even in the harder rolls I don't feel in danger. I've caught knees and elbows by accident and done the same to others but, thankfully, nothing serious besides some bruises.
It definitely sucks that you got cracked by someone's knee and I'm sorry you got hurt that way but it does seem like you've got some shit training partners. I've dropped into gyms where I felt like everyone was trying to just "win" and didn't care about their partners and I didn't like it, so I'm sorry this is your experience.
I'm definitely biased by my positive experiences with grappling and it seems you're biased by your negative ones. I still think grappling is the lowest impact legit martial art that most anyone can get into if they train smart. I've had way more minor injuries and headaches from training striking than BJJ but that's only my experience.

Anyway, hope you get better and sorry you got clocked like that, bro.
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>>195084
Look at this guy being uncharacteristically gentlemanly around here
He just might make it
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>>195097
Sorry, forgot we're on 4chan.

Fuck you faggot, git gud.
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>>195071
>PRP and stem cell injections, meniscus dissections, knee and hip replacements, ACL reattachments, labrum repairs, mufuggin back surgery, arthritis
Dude if you had all of these you are either extremely unlucky or trained poorly (overtrained, spazzed, ignored injuries). Injuries are a known risk but I know pretty serious black belts with only a knee or shoulder issue (that could be mitigated without surgery)
I also know people who have torn knee ligaments because they stepped off a large curb incorrectly.

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What the fuck bros? There's no /scuba/ general?

Let's rectify that.

Best dive sites? Hairy or funny stories?

And the obvious question, what's better? PADI or SDI?

Here's an Australian Scuba FAQ until we make our own

https://scubaworld.com.au/learn-to-dive-faqs
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>>193645
Thats really good. Here in california ita more like $700
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>>194537
Even with an expensive ass wetsuit?
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>>194599
I used a cheap 7mm suit and was freezing in 50 deg water
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>>194537
Thailand was surprisingly warm, I had never experienced such a difference in temperature regarding sea water of a different country. It was also very comfortable since it allowed to dive with short sleeves for arms and legs.

>>193643
Already started with online content, first dive late next month.
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I did it. I got my scooooba certification.

Wat nao?

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>>195003
I feel you man. I definitely don't think its a good idea to film every time you skate. I mostly set up my camera if I'm learning something new or trying something I know is going to take me a lot of effort. The setting has to be right too

My friend and I have been filming each other recently. Which has caused me to film myself less in the last couple weeks. I picked skating up again like 9 months ago after a 3 year break, so those early sessions of filming myself do kickflips and tre flips are really eye opening now. I'm visibly slimmer, have more pop, and just look better on my board

I guess the entire point of my original post was that you can motivate yourself by tracking progress. I guess for some people that could be as simple as keeping a mental note of everything you've been learning and doing, but for me having a visual record of my progress has been really helpful. I've also considered the fact that I probably won't be able to skate forever, and being able to look back on these times will be nice
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Hunting for that perfect board shape got me going crazy. I want to find a setup and stick to that same formula.
Had the perfect board a few months ago and trying to find more that use that mold.
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>>195026
What kind of board was it?
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>>195048
(I mentioned this last thread so sorry for spreading my insanity)
It was a Toy Machine, but what makes it confusing is I think it may have been a misprint. Every website lists that board I bought as different dimensions to what it actually had.
Considering buying another and seeing if either all the websites are wrong (including TM's own website), or if I did in fact have a misprint. And if so what mold that actually was.

It's not a huge deal of course but I've had to switch decks since then and I miss that last one lol. It was super mellow/flat, even the kicks were pretty subdued, and it had a nice full/square shape. For an 8" it had a lot of meat on it, if that makes sense, and I liked that.
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>>195050
toy machine infuriatingly switches woodshops frequently. the last time I skated one it was awesome, i was excited to buy another with supposedly the same dimensions but it was completely different in numbers and in the "feeling". it was a ps stix instead of their usual
i was so mad

Not sure if this is supposed to go on /xs/ or /sp/, but what do you think of the sport? All I see on here is HEMA.

I'm trying to get into it and I'm looking to pick up some gear. I probably want to fence Epee. Any recommendations? The club has gear, but a lot of it is gross and sometimes not working, especially for left handed stuff.
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in the US is it dorky to ref in French
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>>175015
he's from oklahoma I'm pretty sure. no person would willingly admit to living in ohio
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>>131180
>HEMA guys call oly fencing antenna tag
>HEMA gets an inkling of a competition scene
>lol how do we score
>HEMA becomes sword tag, now with less athleticism and technical competency because of poor pedagogy
We've come full circle.
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there isn't really anything wrong with antenna tag as a concept. no less of a weird sport than like curling.
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>>195100
>there isn't really anything wrong with antenna tag as a concept
there isn't, swordsmanship derived sports do a better job at replicating the dynamism behind an exchange than the more "technically accurate" studies.

>welcome to the gym anon, today we're learning [technique], [counter1], [counter2], and [counter3]
>time to roll
>opponent launches [technique]
>heh, no problem, [counter1]
>suddenly [counter1counter] to instant tap
>repeat
>get fucking smoked nonstop for an hour
>repeat 3x/wk for a month
Why am I being set up for failure? Why am I giving these assholes money? When will they teach me the secret techniques? And why do I keep getting hit in the nuts "accidentally?" And why are protective cups forbidden? Am I enrolled in in a gay BDSM dungeon disguised as a martial arts studio?
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now that the retard has burned himself out the adults can start talking again

effectively what it comes down to is just because a person has a skill doesn't mean they're good at relaying the information, and since most athletes fall into the category of low IQ individuals the only way they can teach something is to say "just look at what I do and then copy it bro"
do yourself a favor and stop listening to what the "instructor" is telling you to do all the time, you need to be focused on personal skill goals you set for yourself. If you're forced to do static karate drilling and kata the way most bjj schools do and that's your only choice then just play along, then use the open mat time for personal development which is where you'll see actual improvements
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>>194719
>You will learn much faster and much more completely with your understanding If you are the one making the discoveries
I feel like there's a middleground between the brazil monkey see monkey do approach and the hands-off approach. Mindless repetition doesn't build critical thinking, but fumbling around in the dark with the occasional hint isn't leveraging the expert's knowledge efficiently.
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>>194881
It shouldn't be fumbling around in the dark, the instructor should be putting specific constraints on the player to Force a desired behavior to emerge
I think it's really a more active teaching style because the instructions will change depending on how the class is behaving

As an example I will give an exercise to play with
Then we bring it in and I ask everybody is there something they learned during that process, or is there something you maybe had trouble with during that which stands out to you?
And it's a group brain storm at that point where students can mention hey I realized putting my hand over here was a really effective frame. Great
and someone else can say oh I was having trouble moving towards the back because of where his knee was
Ok anyone have an idea about what he can do there?
"His right arm is free so try posting the elbow to give yourself a better angle?"
Ok let's go back and do the exercise again, keep in mind what we just talked about about
Doing it this way is immediate feedback dozens of times in a short amount of time
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>>194498
I bet you can't fight for shit and are a DYEL as well.
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>>194872
Great advice.

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>motocross is so dead there isn't even a thread for it on /xs/
its so over
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>lawrencewinslol
Hate this single digit IQ faggot like you wouldn't believd
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>>148143
a sport being dead is a good thing in a sense because it keeps the posers out
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>>194946
the only people left racing motorcross are rich posers
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>>148143
>motocross is so dead
posts supercross picture
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>posts supercross picture

previous >>181554
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>>195013
I know it's fiction, But Kyokushin guys can move this fluidly instead of just pushing forward with punches?
>https://youtu.be/l1UhDBURW-s?si=8640xShZ7N6Fu3e0
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>>195032
>Kyokushin guys can move this fluidly instead of just pushing forward with punches?
No. (but Max Dedik in one interview said rules of IKO1 changed recently and fights became more maneuverable, but IDK)

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>Hanging out at a party
>I find out some dude is a TKD blackbelt
>He starts doing these faggy party tricks like kicking bottle caps off of sodas and twirling in the air using completely inefficient and impractical tornado kicks
>Normies, being normies, completely eat this shit up and start cheering and yelling like it's the craziest thing they've ever seen
>I offer to spar him, knowing his flashy kicks will just get his ass beat
>I swarm him with a three piece combo to the head and body
>He kinda-sorta turtled up, but I KNOW I tagged him in all the gaps, and I KNOW he was kind of surprised, but he just sort of stumbled back and played it off like he blocked them all
>The crowd goes "wow, dang, good thing he blocked them all"
>WHAT?
>I LITERALLY tagged him like THREE TIMES, and they THINK he "blocked" them just because he kinda-sorta turtled up?
>He fakes a leg kick and transitions into that stupid 360 spinning back kick bullshit and it doesn't even hurt when it lands cause it was soft as fuck, but I stumble over a hitched part of the rug where it's sticking out, and I trip and fall over
>The whole crowd starts going crazy and going "nah bro, just stay down, just stay down, it's over"
>I'm literally one hundred percent fine, so I dust myself off and immediately stand back up to resume the spar, but everyone's already high fiving the other guy and telling me "it's over, it's over, just stay down"
>I tell them I just tripped over the rug, and the normies are like "yeah, cause taekwondo guy kicked you over it", and I tried explaining to them that I stumbled over it myself but they wouldn't listen and they kept saying the taekwondo guy won
>First of all, normies are so fucking stupid I can't even believe it, and are absolutely fucking clueless when it comes to fighting

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>>193334
Based TKD bro
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>>193334
damn TKD really works huh
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>>193109
>Anon gets owned like a 19-year-old with daddy issues in front of a bunch of people
>I SWARE ON ME MUM I TRIPPED ON AN INVISIBLE TURTLE
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>>194408
It works in street fights AND at parties, especially now that every other normie bitch is a koreeaboo.
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>>194748

This comment made my day lmfao

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Roller blading and roller skating general
>Don't do crack, just roller skate edition
https://youtu.be/t0LSkX46dS4
Discuss tricks, gear, hobbies, and anything else relating to rolling. Derby and hockey fans are welcome to join as well.
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>>194174
should be fine, a good one to start without spending too much.
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>>194174
Brazilian qt Nicholy Machado skates Aeons and she's hot af.
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Went to a skate park with glossy, polished concrete for the first time (my local has much rougher surface).

my wheels felt really slippy, didn't feel comfortable at all doing tight turns or riding transition. Slipped out a few times and ate shit. I ride flat 60mm 92a, for reference.

Should I be using harder/smaller wheels on that kind of surface or what?
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>>195031
You need softer, grippier wheels.
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>>195044
actually I just realised I'm on 83a not 92a with this frame. softer than that seems like it'd be useless for any other surface. guess I'll still to my local park...


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