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/xs/ is a place to discuss all types of extreme sports and similar physical activities, which include (but are not limited to) skydiving, surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding, climbing, rafting, bungee-jumping, parkour, BMX & mountain biking, airsoft, paintball, etc.

Why did the west figure out it was more efficient to hit while keeping your unused hand close to your chin while the east had this weird technique, pulling the rear hand as far back as possible at armpit level?
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>>188726
>>188751

The real reason is that Western martial arts were primarily about sport and prizefighting for money whereas Eastern martial arts were taught via forms

The result is that Westerners got a lot better idea through practice of what works and what didn't. That's why grappling is mostly similar the world over because people would actually wrestle, whereas striking evolved in different ways because people wouldn't spar as much (and rulesets could vary massively).
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>>188760
>liver punch
>plexus
>kidneys
You're a retard & modern striking is fucking stupid. Way to much focus on head hunting. The really good strikers like Jones or GSP will pick you apart to make weaknesses in your posture. Most retards just throw bombs at the face & hope for the best.
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>>186402
& thats why most thai fighters die as penniless nothings with severe osteoporosis in their legs & arthritis in their arms. Seriously it's a fucking trope. Every thai gym has a handful of hobbled over yoda looking mother fuckings who can't walk without canes & some of them are barely pushing 50y/o
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>>188832
Except I've taken shots to the liver and kidneys during training and they don't really do anything to me. Once dropped a guy with a kick to the liver and I didn't throw it hard, so I've seen it but I don't understand it since they don't have the same effect on myself. The only solar plexus shots I've ever taken were because I allowed them, IE we were doing a body shot challenge
If you're not actually good at striking just say that
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>>188864
You're just a god of fighting anon. No other way around it. You are a super human being who can only get hit when he allows it and doesn't have any of the weak spots every human being in history has had.

resurrecting the thread for muay thai. ask questions and talk about muay thai and muay thai related stuff

>Understanding traditional scoring
https://khunkaogym.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/a-laymans-guide-to-scoring-a-muay-thai-fight/
https://youtu.be/7J4gzeJO-4Q

>Live shows
>Siam Fight News
https://www.fb.com/SiamFightNews/
>Lumpinee https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYMw_GleQjXnKMjhCY58V4w
>MAX https://www.youtube.com/user/maxmuaythaichannel
>Ch8
https://www.youtube.com/c/Muaych8
>PETCHYINDEE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsN96OvHRSZWiecrdPvy5Wg
>ONE Championship https://www.youtube.com/c/ONEChampionship

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Hey goys, need a bit of advice

>early 20's
>5'7 Serb
>Built like a blocky pile of concentrated sinew
>autistic schizophrenic adhd bipolar, you name it I have it
>Been interested in combat sports for a while
>Noticed its been a physical hyperfixation
>Want to be big boy mma guy but keep my mouth shut about it
>Live near kickbox gym
>Trainer is a fat guy that goes 60/mph and is only a trainer cause he killed a guy in the ring
>Already 1 hour of training clocked in learning my crosses and jabs and pain in the ass cardiomuscular warmups
>i fucking love it
Is it worth it bros?
Should I shoot my shot?
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>>187754
Yes, you're kicking with the leg rather than with the hip. You can see when you hit the bag your body is facing the bag, it should be completely turned and facing to the side like pic related. That means that instead of the leg coming up pretty much linear at a 45 degree angle, it comes up and then curves so that your shin hits completely horizontal. This requires rotating your torso, and pivoting your back foot (as the leg comes up) until it is pointing directly away from the bag. Think about it like swinging your leg over a really tall bike
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>>183103
bone damage only when you're doing something really wrong. It hurts mostly in the nerves in the skin, pain goes away when you get used to it
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>>188434
thank you i will try it out next time i do bag work
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>>188403
i don't get it. Are zoomers this retarded? just train, it will be worth it

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What's the big deal?
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>>183156
Shut it down
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>>183156
>Urban Spelunking
That just falls under urbex. I loved doing it as a teenager but its too risky to do regularly as an adult because you can very easily get put in jail for it if the cops and prosecutors are having a bad day. Plus with the rise of urbex videos on the Youtoobs, now all the best spots are well-known and regularly checked by cops. As with anything, popularity killed the hobby.
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>>183156
My Uncle is banned from going within a mile of schools after spelunking in public
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>>185616
Can you do me a mitzvah?
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>>183162
Which building? What's to stop anyone else from tunneling into the tunnels?

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Knee Jerk Reactionary Edition
Ur never 2 old 2 sk8, Ur never 2 fat 2 sk8, U can only be 2 much of a pussy 2 sk8
Last Thread: >>184292

Tips for beginners: https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2020/09/10/7-tricks-make-look-better-skating-really/
Qsnacks Top 10 for last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-On1-5U01s&
Video I Survived 500 Days Filming The Worst Skate Video Ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfb_CyfWw9g&
Scumco is going out of business they have $55 decks with free domestic shipping: https://scumcoandsons.com/

Whats do you prefer for a chill sesh? Bowl, Curb, Mini Ramp, Mellow Tranny? Brews and/or bud? Alone or with others?
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>>188740
that makes sense. I used to ride a huge half pipe as a kid because no one else was on it.
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>>186692
damn this guy rules
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qx-w9xQES8
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>>188779
So sick. I really liked his part in pescado
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>>188384
Eh, maybe try nollies? It's good to be able to do anything in any stance so you can't go wrong with either option. Maybe try some transition skating in your regular stance given it doesn't require ollies.

I was similar in that I could only really ollie in my teens then needed to relearn the basics when I picked it back up at 29, and having any sort of skill to begin with was a big help. I did have to (and still do) unlearn a lot of bad habits when it came to stance and whatnot, so the usual set of basic tricks came harder to me, but then weirder shit like old school tricks and certain footplants came easier, so maybe try some of those moves when the usual "beginner" tricks are too much of a pain to have fun with: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSwHkiHEvbCN4G0T5z_EOCIGBTwquwS0a
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>put front foot in heelflip position
>push with back foot behind board
>land heelflip

>put front foot in heelflip position
>push with back foot infront board
>don't land heelflip

I'm going to have to figure this one out

~~ Flex Edition ~~

>Where do I start?
People typically start in the gym and branch off outdoors and find their niche, be it bouldering, trad, sport or a mixture of the above. Some never leave the gym at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter - just get started and enjoy yourself.

>How fit do I have to be to start? Do I have to be able to do x amount of pull-ups?
Being light, strong and flexible helps at the higher levels but climbing is open to almost anyone and is fairly intuitive to most. Even if your body is feeble and weak now, you will develop strength over time by virtue of just climbing. Climbing is a holistic sport and success often hinges upon many factors, not just strength and power, but having these qualities definitely helps when you breach into the higher grades.

>What shoes do I buy?
If you're starting out in the gym, don't worry too much: get some snug shoes without dead space that don't cause you lasting pain. Some people (such as the famed shoe designer Heinz Mariacher) recommend wearing soft shoes when you're starting out -- this makes sense since your footwork will probably suck and the increased feedback will pay dividends over time. You really don't need fancy expensive shoes when you're starting out, but certain shoe properties help send harder problems (e.g. stiff shoes for standing on tiny granite edges or soft shoes for sandstone/gritstone smears).

Here are some useful resources for sizing:
>https://sizesquirrel.com/
>https://rockrun.com/blogs/the-flash-rock-run-blog/rock-climbing-shoe-sizing-guide


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>>188853
>Could you try taking a picture of the entire route that you're working on and not just the start?

I can try taking a full pic saturday, it's 3 more holds that aren't shown (it ends at the top of the wall, no hold just a specific spot). I've been doing only once a week because I was getting fucked up trying two, but this week I'll try two again as I don't feel that beat up.

That said I do work out as well, for whatever good or bad that might do so I think moving to 3 is going to take longer
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>>188855
I was also someone who took awhile to adapt to the volume of climbing. Definitely make it a goal to climb 3 days a week (no more than that, 3 is sufficient). Looking forward to seeing the pic saturday, hopefully you'll make more progress and we can help.
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>>188846
Bruh I'm not bouldering for endurance. I'm not that retarded. I just wanted to contrast the big difference in grades. I will look into that method. Thanks
>>188851
Yea now that you mention it I should get better at resting too. And I already try to climb as efficiently as possible. My climbing partner berates me everytime I don't.
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Post your best strength feats-
Weighted pullup - 65lbs
Hangboard on a 18mm edge - 5 seconds
Hangboard on a 20mm edge - 11 seconds
Front lever progression - Advanced tuck, 8 seconds.
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>>188862
Weighted pullup: +100lbs @ 165lb bw
20m edge half crimp: +90lbs, 7s
8mm edge: 15s bw
6mm edge: 7s bw
I boulder around v8-10 outdoor depending on style of problem

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soaping bros, we're home
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3 year anniversary soaper bump
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>>1409
Buuuuuuuummmmmmmppp
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i unironically kind of want some of these to test out rails
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How the actual fuck is this thread still here?
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>>188877
the s in /xs/ stands for soaping

Is it possible to just never get good at a sport?

I always wanted to drift. I used to rip the e brake in snow and dirt but I just suck at it. I bought a simulator setup and been using it for years and I never get better.

I can barely drift around one wet corner. I just don’t think I can get good at it i never know where the cars gonna go until I hit the throttle and I’m already sliding out of control.
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yes, i know plenty of old men who get into mountain biking, have been doing it for years and still suck ass compared to the fearless 12 year old who started 7 days ago., having a risk tolerance, or atleast internal motivation is necessary. Do you just say you want to improve and then never do anything about it.

Its unironically very easy to learn how to drift a car in the snow, just find an empty parking lot set up some cones and then go until you can predictably do donuts and figure 8s. I also would drift my dads honda 4-trax 300 fourwheeler around when it snowed, but i also flipped it a few times.

I learned how to lift-off oversteer, and trail brake my fwd economy car into corners. and drift my parents truck around in the snow (not very well mind you but its repeatable)
hell my dad even drifts the family truck around in the winter
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>>187150
Of course you are going to fail at first but keep going keep practising fuck the simulators just get in a car find a place with not much people and start to drift, thats how i learned to drift using my brothers car my brother allowed me to drive his car as long as i put gas in it but he didn't know i would occasionally use it to drift too
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>>187150
driving is not a real sport
it's the same "sport" as darts, video games and chess

>watching The Alpinist
>movie about free solo climbing
>introduces a bunch of famous free solo climbers at the beginning
>ALL of them died climbing
>the two climbers the movie is about died climbing

this sport is ridiculous. EVERYONE who made a name for themselves in it fucking died due to climbing aside from Alex Honnold

Why would anyone do this?
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>>137449
None of them died free soloing though.
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>>158543
How many [insert sport doers] do you know who [insert sport] hard and have never gotten [insert sport specific body part] injuries?

Thanks for this insightful post
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>>137491
i grow weed and smoke it every day and i would never in my life attempt free soloing, unless it was deep water soloing.
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>>160888
>look retarded
who is looking at you?
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>>182175
It's not a recurring dream for me, but I can relate. I've had a good few dreams where I've fell massive heights, and after the oh shit moment, I've always been quite peaceful and accepting of my fate when falling.
Honestly, I think if I fell a great height while climbing, I'd be laughing at my own hubris on the way down

previous >>166676
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>>188745
It can vary from instructor to instructor, my current instructor have a focus for kata and "self-defense" (one-step choreographic moves).
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>>188852
>kata and "self-defense" (one-step choreographic moves).
Oh nice. I think the reason why we spar hard is because...well sensei's old school. Our sensei learned Shotokan and other stuff during the 60s and became an instructor and a cop in the 70s. It's probably why we have a lot of knife defense practice (both choreographed and "free spar" defense where the knife attacker just relentlessly attacks you and you have to defend yourself with everything you learned BUT must execute the disarming technique) also harder sparring just gives the closest feeling of being in an actual fight. It's fucking fun even with the bruises. Good luck in whatever choice you have between Kyokushin and Kickboxing. I did the same thing before ending up in my current dojo. Try to learn ways to treat injuries yourself. It helps. Dit Da Jow and other liniment helps me in healing bruises and light injuries so I can go back and do it again the next week.
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>>188837
Don't wanna fight bull pussy but yesterday I fought your momma pussy
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>>188231
Following the logic that the striker always lost against the grappler, Oyama probably lost against a judo fighter but there is no information about it
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>>188133
>Then kumite, mostly from shoto.
Kyokushin Kumite is the diametric opposite to shotokan Kumite though

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/archery/ Thread #2

What's your style?
What you shooting?
What you hitting?
Recs for bows?
Why is the Timber Creek Mamba the best first horsebow?
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>>188268
>I don't know if carbon shaft spine can translate directly to wooden shaft spine
spine simply means how much the shaft will bend under x ammount of tension. I dont know for sure but Id say there is no difference. 600 seems to be on the middle but probably anything between 500-700 will work just fine.
chart for reference
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>>188268
you could try heavier tip
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>>188258
>>188268
>I don't know if carbon shaft spine can translate directly to wooden shaft
This, when I try to choose a spine, I get numbers like 25-30, 30-35, etc
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>>188300
It can sure feel important to get ”just right” but let’s be real here if you are not competing which you are not since you are shooting with a 25lb longbow which is essentially a childerns toy it doesn’t matter. Just go with the 25-30 it will work just fine. Remember it’s not rocket science.
If you want min max and play with numbers and small little upgrades - go with compound bow.
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Someone explain to me what a "Fistmele" is and if it's still relevant

Thread for Judo (other jacketed wrestling styles welcome)

>Discussion starter
When and why did you first start Judo? How's it going so far?

>IJF World Tour Schedule 2024
https://www.ijf.org/calendar?age=world_tour

>Watch
https://www.youtube.com/c/judo
live.ijf.org

>Video Resources
https://www.youtube.com/@KODOKANJUDO
https://www.youtube.com/@Shigashi84

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>>187782
New to Judo. I have an extensive Muay Thai background and did a tiny bit of BJJ. How different are Muay Thai sweeps and dumps from Judo throws? Things like Sasae and Ude nage in Judo look really similar to forward dumps from a clinch.
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>>188798
technique different, principles the same. all balance and timing. thats 99% of judo in practice
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>>188798
The range is slightly further because you can get a very secure grip on someone’s wrist with a sleeve, and you shouldn’t really be kicking peoples legs out (most people will hate you if you do that).
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>>188796
Those are niggers, anon.
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>In order to promote Judo, Hirano would fight all black belts in the city where he taught Judo. In November 1954, in Mannheim, Germany, Hirano scored all ippons in 34 minutes against 54 black belt opponents (1-3 dan).

>Traditional nage-waza (throwing techniques) were taught in the following sequence: kumu (gripping), tsukuru (the entry and proper fitting of your body into position taken just before the movement required for completion of your throwing technique), kakeru (completing), and nageru (throwing).

>Hirano revolutionized the order to tsukuru, kumu, kakeru and nageru. This is the current European style Judo. This is a proven method to defeat bigger opponents, as demonstrated by Hirano's stunning success. Wilhelm Ruska (Holland) 192 cm, 115 kg, was his most accomplished student. Ruska was the world heavyweight champion in 1967 and 1971 and runner up in 1969 (open weight). Wilhelm was the dual gold medallist in heavy and open weight class at the 1972 Munich Olympics.

-https://judoinfo.com/hirano/


How the fuck do you fit into a throw without actually having that kuzushi from grips?

Does hunting dangerous animals like rhinos and lions count as an extreme sport? Has anyone here ever done this? How dangerous exactly is it?
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>>184918
For me it would be British India.
>Hunting giant man eating tigers responsible for killing hundreds of people
Now that's an extreme sport
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>>185314
You guys should read Jim Corbett's books, I just finished man eaters of kumaon
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>>185314
Hundreds of people or hundreds of Indians?
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>>184915
It's only an extreme sport if extreme people do it.
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>>185314
>tigers responsible for killing hundreds of people
After the British massa's leave, the pajeets got smarter against the Tiger menace and started wearing funny masks on the back of their heads to trick tigers.

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/HEMA/ General - Yes capo no cap

>What is HEMA?
HEMA stands for Historical European Martial Arts, sometimes also called Historical Fencing.
It's reconstructing how to fight with swords, daggers, polearms, and other weapons based on old European fighting treatises

>What does it look like?
Inside the World of Longsword Fighting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zueF4Mu2uM
Back to the source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBmNVHTmNs
Martin Fabian Sparring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8QlbKfX84k

>Where can I find these treatises?
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Category:Weapons


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>>177304
What in HEMA is most memetically similar to the guandao (yǎnyuèdāo)?

It's a big glaive with a butt spike associated with a semi-legendary historical figure of great skill and strength (probably anachronistically by a novel in the 14th century). Giant versions (wǔkēdāo) exist for strength training and military tests. Guandao of more practical weight and dimensions are used for martial arts forms (modern wushu uses even lighter ones), were possibly used as cavalry polearms, and were definitely used as showpiece weapons for arming generals and high-status guards.

I'm asking this question because guandao autism looks fun but I'd like an excuse to do some HEMA reading instead of going down another CMA/HCMA rabbit hole.

https://www.mandarinmansion.com/glossary/yanyuedao
https://www.mandarinmansion.com/glossary/qinglong-yanyuedao
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>>188598
>Giant versions (wǔkēdāo) exist for strength training and military tests.
pic related
>A Qing dynasty soldier holding a wǔkēdāo (武科刀).
>London Illustrated News, 1900.
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>>188598
Traiditionally, be it in Europe or Asia, quarterstaff is the foundation of polearms, so you might always fall back on these, techniques wise.
As for the actual weapon, considering there's no manual treating specifically glaives, probably halberd, though it's most often than not wielded far back compared to the guandao which is, iirc, more in the middle.
Maybe look into two-ended spears as well (Pasch or Fiore).
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I decided to catalogue the fencing cultures of the various countries and regions today based on events and tournaments:

Europe:
>UK:
Insular. They love wearing gear and fence quite hard. That doesn't stop them from being shit. Also, they still use synthetics lmao.
>Germany:
Probably the worst Euro country. On average they hate wearing any gear (including masks), hate fencing at speed, and especially hate wearing shoes. They get injured often even though they insist that they're the reasonable ones and everyone else is reckless. Some clubs are exceptions.
>Austria:
Less extreme than the Krauts, much more variety between clubs. Some hate wearing gear, others are smarter about it and go pretty hard. Some are insane and wear inadequate gear while fencing at a high intensity. Lots of very skilled and aesthetic fencers. Obsessed with hats.
>"Central" Europeans:
Typical Slavs. Very competitive, very unaesthetic fencing. Incapable of putting the left foot forward.
>Nordics/Scandinavians
Virtually identical to the Slavs in their fencing style. The Finns are especially violent.
>France:
Similar to Austria in that they're impossible to generalise. I suspect that there's factionalism going on.

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>>188720
>They're in a constant civil war.
Painfully accurate.
>the "right" form of HEMA.
It really ended up with legally certified masters accusing other instructors, who don't have the same licence, of stealing the job and teaching wrong fencing. This is how hard some italians believe in what's the "right" HEMA. It's really embarassing.

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Weekly Debate Post: Skiing vs. Snowboarding!
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>>188134
Weather got warm
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>>188165
>needlessly tiring
Skill issue
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>>188469
It's true
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>>188579
different anon here, I can easily board 10 hours, maybe you need to learn to board or build up your core
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>>188663
i think board length changes it a lot. i bumped down from a 160 to shortwides and for the first time in my life i actually enjoy snowboarding moguls


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