I want to learn something that would actually teach me how to use a weapon, near me they have fencing, eskrima and kendo. Of these three which one would have the most real life applicability?
>>247876You can compete within a year or two in both western fencing and kendo. Ask the club how often they usually have competitions.You usually will be practicing for around 6 months in kendo before you can start wearing the protective armor (bogu). Before then you can’t really “spar”, you’ll be learning footwork and basic swings. The reason is because wearing the armor too early can actually mess up your kendo and make you form bad habits early on. Olympic fencing also places a big emphasis on footwork first, but I think generally you can start sparring much earlier. Ask the instructor what their timeline for beginners looks like.Btw, iaido has almost no actual “fencing” component to it. It’s basically all kata as you describe.
>>247876>What are your places like you trained at? How did you find them?I didn't write that, it's in the thread I also quoted, but it's something we have all come to agree if a self defense/competition place is what you want.That aside, I'm a judoka. The only serious, proper (as in, not ridiculously small garages) place I could find was a national judo dojo for training Olympic athletes. A shodan there was granted permission to teach to adult beginners.
Learn anatomy.Find some friends and start stress testing with training knives or noodles. Hell, use a marker or a brush with some shit on it to track contact.Start slow, try to strike a certain area, and have your friend try to defend or even disarm.Speed the movements up, slowly working up towards a realistic speed.Try every variation possible, and practice it all.Then introduce some combo strikes, find a flow.Then realize how FUCKED you would be in a real knife v knife scenario.Techniques won't do jack fucking shit for you in practice, motor skills and actually understanding movement/principles will.You need to learn to intuitively put the pointy thing deep enough into the soft thing while your opponent is spazzing or offering resistance.
>>200580Eskrima/Kali is tons fun. Get some sticks and practice solo drills with YT videos if there is no school you can go to. There is about a 0 chance you will get into a stick on stick fight in real life, but knowing how to hit someone else with one could very well come in handy. Also, the drills are just a lot of fun and build great coordination.
>>200851The blade alone gives at least + 11 agility so yeah . Better safe than sorry
Does bjj teach you anything useful?
>>244188>He is inarguably the best grappler that ever existed in the UFC>you can't talk shit about his skill level you stupid fuck.I did call him one of the best in my comments. Are you just illiterate? Were you unable to comprehend...>"Gracie, arguably one of the world's best BJJ practitioners with an 82% win rate at one point,">If he was around now with the array of training that exists he would easily be 20-0I respectfully disagree; he was a BJJ purist,st and the MMA people of today who incorporate Judo, Wrestling, and BJJ would beat that purist's ass.
>>244187Karate master kung fu tier fantasy
>>220100Sweaty men wrestling each other and putting their legs around each other on the floor until one 'submits'. That a nah from me bro.
>>244188>He is inarguably the best grappler that ever existed in the UFC>15-2-3pick one
>>220100The number one thing you learn in jiujitsu is that no amount of "i just see red" fuckery is going to get a competent grappler off of you in mount.
Is karate any good, or is BJJ or boxing better?
>>252111Every nerd is a big buff bodybuilder nowadays it means nothing. It's just more embarrassing when Mr 100kg bodybuilder gets destroyed by some 80kg guy
>>251945Karate is fine, specially kyokushin, boxing is better, bjj is a meme that will get you killed.
>>251945Bjj is good as complementary to wrestling or judo, otherwise you'll have bad takedowns and zero standup game. Karate is good if they do full contact. Boxing is good.
>>251945In theory it's great, but it's hard to find a good karate gym depending on where you live.
>>251945t.black belt in karate, 17 years continuous practice in shorin-ryu shorinkan which is very traditional.punches and kicks are useful when trained in sparring practice. but I cannot tell you how many useless patterns I know which cannot, in any way, be realistically deployed in a fight. But we train punching wood blocks and that certainly prepares your knuckles for punching. karate as a system is simply not useful for street fighting but a few of the techniques in isolation certainly are. I started karate because I thought it would be helpful in a fight, but by the end of my karate 'career' for want of a better word, I was doing it for other reasons.
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>>253738Muscles in a fight are like horse power in racing. It matters a lot but it doesn't mean a 400 hp car can never beat a 700 hp car around a track. If you train bjj twice a week, you wouldn't beat a bodybuilder who is 50% heavier than you. Demetrious Johnson wouldn't beat Thor Bjornsson who is 150% heavier than him. But Demetrious Johnson would beat a bodybuilder who's 50% bigger than him.
>>253749Tbqh I'd still put my money on prime DJThat man was something else
>>253738I agree about the MMA guy, but I also think there's plenty of annoying body builders too. I think we're all so fucking annoying any time we say our hobbies make us better than each other. I started doing MMA to be like Naruto and I like to take shit personally - I'm not winning any personality contests any time soon.
>>253749>If you train bjj twice a week, you wouldn't beat a bodybuilder who is 50% heavier than youDepends on for how long you have been training
>>253841>I think we're all so fucking annoying any time we say our hobbies make us better than each otherThat's because your hobbies aren't actually, objectively the coolest shit invented by mankind, you fucking kooks.
I want to train something that doesn't involve hard sparring whatsoever, I just want to do drills and light sparring without hard hits or simply hits to the head. I was looking into kickboxing and muay thai gyms near me and they at least seemingly and according to reviews had a quite hard sparring heavy culture in there.
>>253566many such cases
>>253556I did a bit of muay thai and I think this probably applies to most places but every time we were usually split into two groups, those who wanted to spar on one side and those who just wanted a partner to drill with on the other and you just talked it out with your sparring partner about how hard you wanted to go.I've also done boxing in a sports center and they didn't let you do sparring for a few months, just drills but even the people who sparred only did medium intensity to the body only taps to the head.
>>253556CapoeiraUncompetitive BJJJudoAlternatively find someone who thinks like you and just train together by yourselves
Catch wrestling will always be the GOAT of combat sports to me and noone can convince me otherwise
>>253556>I want to train something that doesn't involve hard sparring whatsoever, I just want to do drills and light sparring without hard hits or simply hits to the head.You can do this with almost all martial arts (except weird stuff like Lethwei); the problem is finding a good gym.>>253583>There's a reason BJJ is as popular as it is these daysChokes also harm the brain, not just strikes to the head. Always be careful when sparring to not excessively harm your practice partner.
what's your favorite /xs/ anime
>>239582
>>229875> a bit
>>245748The Manga is so good
Mine was already mentioned, among the ongoing releases I enjoy Red Blue.
What's your excuse for not skating?
>>244922Make skateboarding cozy but get real fucking goodTo where you can go to a competition real nervous but ignore the hype and perform better than anyone else because you practiced extensivelyIf someone bombed a hill in San Francisco and you want to do that, wear gear and PRACTICE SITUATIONS WHERE YOUD GET SPEED WOBBLES OBSESSIVELYEvel Kinneval could have gotten a lot further if he were good at mathSo apply math and physics to your obsessionYou can only break and twist your limbs so often before you have to decide to either quit take a break or better yet WEAR GEAR AND STUDY LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON ITThe hippie dippie retards with no gear are bound to either become paralyzed or addicted to crack
>>247190You must have really good health insurance or dont practice that often to decrease your riskLet Andy Macdonald be, he's got a lot more testosterone than you
>>247193>You must have really good health insurancenope>or dont practice that oftenI skate every day>Let Andy Macdonald beYou must be ancient
I broke my back.
>>237764not seeing much progress and i'm lowkey scared of hurting myself
What strength training routines do these types of fighters maintain?Could this be replicated at home?
good resource, helped me a lot:https://www.youtube.com/@willratelle8027big thing if you're training judo with intense training programs is to keep volumes low and stimulus consistent but not burdensome
>>249999Checked. As other anons have said, the basic compound exercises (squat, bench, deadlift, overhead press, rows) are all good, I'd personally argue that trapbar/hexbar deadlift is a better option for most people than barbell deadlift. Farmer carries (or even holds) can be good for grip strength, hell just hold your last deadlift rep of the day for as long as you can. Like anything consistent training is key, though if you're also training martial arts you need to be careful with your programming: Alternating lifting days and martial arts days, or doing lower lifting intensity on the days you'll train martial arts, etc. I like to do a little lifting before bjj/kickboxing, but the lifting sessions in my case are very minimalist to just maintain strength I've built up over the years. Some other guys at my gym train Mon-Sat, but skip martial arts on Wednesdays to lift full body instead. Lots of different ways to do it.t. Competed in powerlifting for 10 years before switching to bjj and kickboxing
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpMT6t-Zgdeadlifts, squats, bicep curls and chest exercises are useless and counter productive
They all have different strength requirements. Grapplers need good lower back strength and strong grips and durable strong pulls, they are also very explosive as well.Strikers need cardio and mobility
They actually do super secret strength exercisesCreated by mystical gurus in the ancient pastPassed down through the generations of mastersThe Sacred Truth, revealed only to the worthyNah they just do what everyone else does, plus dumb gimmicks because their coach told them to
if brain damage was a myth, then i'd totally be into muay thai and maybe judo.last time i got punched in the head, i saw stars. it was cool.
i mean i already know skateboarding, concrete can fuck your brain any day, it's not like i'm not taking risks.idk what about 1v1 makes me intrigued
ok fuck it im gonna keep lifting. my shoulders fucking hurt, my legs are stiff, my back is relaxed. my CNS is fried. i'm sitting in front of my cup of coffee but i don't want to drink it and be active, i'm tired of making an effort, what a bitch.i should keep avoiding both sports. or i should express myself so i can keep on with life. idk. how did i end up thinking about punching another person? it seems so detached from what a healthy person should be thinking about. questioning my sanity rn
>>253691for striking, it depends on weight class, you can just not compete
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/more-brain-injuries-caused-by-sparring-than-real-fights/news-story/258aa1bd5e7d7823d3ddb102310f1dbanvm
Fuck my stupid worthless Year of the Horse Logan Wavecel life
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>>242593prove what?
How do we save this shitheap of a martial art? All suggestions and general Power Era nostalgia welcomet. ITF 2nd dan (but not trained in years)
>>251156you misunderstand me. Like that nunchaku tournament in this thread. Sanda but add weapons.
divide it in 3 big groups>sportslet'em do whatever they want. buy belts. kiddy shit>martial artbring it back to 90s and before. some do barehand only, some do some yellow guy weapons stuff you won't find irl unless you own them plus knife and stick. we keep belts but you actually earn it on a tournament and you only spend on an official certificate based on your teacher's word). KO, TKO or give up.>martial fightingwe go OG manuals and myths. survival moves, that's it. Add current weaponry. Colored belts and light, gay uniforms are gone. Sturdy, Judo like gis that are styled like normal clothes for grappling's sake. Shoes stay on. A new, exclusive product: Roman Cestus like gloves (not the spikes kind) the Tae Kwon Do people now carry on their pockets 24/7. Tkd is now a thing you fear and respect again...and then there's foot jabbing with a helmet for the kids
>>211263The answer is simple, get more practitioners go into mma and kickboxing the more the better because the more successful it becomes the more people will get drawn to it, this is what made bjj so successful despite being the karate/tkd of grappling.Traditional and the asian flare are no longer enough to attract new members and the current members are content in a stagnant bubble just latching to what they know.The only way to progress is through high level competition and that only exist in modern combat sports, this applies to any tma.
I went to my first taekwondo class tonight and it was just really casual I guess? I don't know what I was expecting, but no one was in a uniform except the two instructors, I was easily the most fit person there, the students I saw were hitting the bags really light and sloppily with no energy, and the young kid (maybe 14) I was training with just whined the entire time about being dizzy from spin kicks. Is this normal? There's only one other place in my town so this might be it for me. I'm on a 30 day free trial so i lose nothing if I don't go back
>>253145>Is this normal?No
How likely is it to practice martial arts in home, and how can it be done?
>>250002Train at home for exercise and fine-tune your techniques. Work out and get stronger when home training. Go all out once you're back in the dojo/home. Get footage of your sparring bouts. Analyze that at home and try to fix your home routine for improvement. >>250098>Yeah, man. Go spar all day everyday.Stupid ass nigger watches some fight fag youtuber and Joe Rogan once thinks he knows shit. This is some retarded ass post.
>>250002If you go to a school and learn, don't you usually get homework? You can definitely get "good" by training by yourself
The real trick is that you only train what you actually know. Stop trying to learn new stuff alone, just train your limited knowledge to its peak physicality. A teacher would recognize it and give you something new to work on when you visit. That's like... krotty 101.
Do you think breakfalls can be trained alone? I’ve tried and I tend to slam my lower back against the ground which doesn’t seem right but since I lack a teacher I don’t actually know for sure.
>>250002Sure, you can even do it with zero equipment if you're okay with the kung fu mindset, which is pretty much doing huge numbers of reps in order to build up to increasingly more difficult movements. You don't learn how to kill people right away but your body becomes a weapon capable of that based on level of daily effort.
How do Muay Thai fighters train? Do they do technique, cardio, sparring, and calisthenics?
no none of that
yes to all
>have a skateboard as a kid>don't mind skateboarding>get rid of it as an adult>realize skateboarders are awful and skateboarding is badHave I become a caricature of the out of touch adult? It seems to me just like how golf attracts sociopathic fat rich people, skateboarding attracts sociopathic skinny poor people. I've been attacked by skateboarders as an adult for just minding my own business, they used to see me as one of them, now that I have a job and own my home they see me as an enemy and I see them as an enemy. Instinctively! It's fucking weird I feel like I'm living in a cartoon. Do other people go through this?
>>253194Once you hit 30 you'll realise that the other people engaging in a hobby/sport do not define it. Just like you don't have to be a beer swilling, soon to be heart attack having, greasy as fuck face having creature to play darts. You can engage with skating however you like and don't need to be a drugged up street urchin wannabeWhat I'm trying to say is: Get oooooover yourself faaaaaaaggot
>skateboarders behind majority of brutal skateboard clubbing deaths>more news at 11
