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soaping bros, we're home
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>>1409
real
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anyone have any advice for royales? i can't get the angle right and keep slipping out
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Schlawg done forgot his board while hitting that 50-50
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soap will never dies
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>>176808
There's slower boards out there, I think /po/ had/still have a thread started in 2015

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Is grappler's chance a thing?
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>>188633
No, because it's rarer to see a grappler who has an X-factor like ability to finish the fighter with grappling, compared to a guy who has a puncher's chance meaning he is so capable of knocking you out in any exchange that you are basically never safe unless you avoid exchanging completely. When you get a guy like that, like Palhares maybe, it's not a sudden, random chance sort of thing, it's the guy being very good and very fucking strong, working his grappler diligently and finishing in ways that you can see coming before they happen, as compared to a big punch seemingly out of nowhere.
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>>188633
A lower chance, but yeah sure.
The opponent would just have to make a pretty bad mistake for it to be considered chance and not skill.
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>>193320
>bad mistake

It certainly is, but one you see fairly often is someone clearly winning a striking exchange just shoot out of nowhere and do fuck all with it.
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>>188633
Ironically Chael was probably the better grappler overall, it’s just that he had some massive holes in his game (IE he doesn’t know basic BJJ), hence why he wound up jobbing to a white-belt level triangle choke. If he’d just kept both his arms in guard he would’ve won the belt EZ PZ.

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~~Actually got the title fucking right edition~~

>Where do I start?
People typically start in the gym and branch off outdoors and find their niche, be it bouldering, trad, sport or a mixture of the above. Some never leave the gym at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter - just get started and enjoy yourself.

>How fit do I have to be to start? Do I have to be able to do x amount of pull-ups?
Being light, strong and flexible helps at the higher levels but climbing is open to almost anyone and is fairly intuitive to most. Even if your body is feeble and weak now, you will develop strength over time by virtue of just climbing. Climbing is a holistic sport and success often hinges upon many factors, not just strength and power, but having these qualities definitely helps when you breach into the higher grades.

>What shoes do I buy?
If you're starting out in the gym, don't worry too much: get some snug shoes without dead space that don't cause you lasting pain. Some people (such as the famed shoe designer Heinz Mariacher) recommend wearing soft shoes when you're starting out -- this makes sense since your footwork will probably suck and the increased feedback will pay dividends over time. You really don't need fancy expensive shoes when you're starting out, but certain shoe properties help send harder problems (e.g. stiff shoes for standing on tiny granite edges or soft shoes for sandstone/gritstone smears).

Here are some useful resources for sizing:
>https://sizesquirrel.com/
>https://rockrun.com/blogs/the-flash-rock-run-blog/rock-climbing-shoe-sizing-guide


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>>195085
Tons of MP threads on this. TL;DR do physiotherapy and you'll be fine. Unless you've torn your labrum or whatever.
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/123308485/shoulder-injury-while-climbing
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114276664/dislocated-shouler-and-the-necessity-for-surgery
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/124355024/climbing-after-shoulder-dislocation
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>>195092
>torn your labrum
My friend did this and I entertained myself by poking the general area of his injury while declaring I was fingering his shoulder labia.
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Last 2 sessions have been phenomenal lads, feels really good. sending routes with brutal crimps I wouldn't have dreamed of sending just a few months ago
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Going to squamish soon, anyone got that squamish bouldering ebook?
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>>195105
What grade?
How long you been climbing?

Tall half white half mexican freak girl savagely beat me up in muay thai class today.
I'm 5'6 while she's easily 6' plus. My nose was bleeding earlier today, one tooth from my upper jaw is loose, while my sides are still hurting from her roundhouse kicks. She humiliated me in front of everyone. I couldn't do shit, just fucking overpowered. She kicked my ass while wearing the most girly clothes possible, a pink gym skirt barely covering her asscheeks, black top with visible sports bra straps, and pink gloves. Our instructor fucking hates me, and I think he intentionally paired me with her to give her a good practice punchbag. She looks sexy though, when she bends, her ass looks shapely.
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>>175051
why? this is not a woman problem, this is a bad gym culture problem.
the girls at my gym aren't dumb fucks and they understand the consequences of going hard. I've dropped a couple with liver shots, bitches be tough as nails, they get up and keep fighting.
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>>159114
>>159289
>>159290
Found the dyels
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>>175983
yea same here.
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>>166586
I'm 165 and lean at 5'7 bro you just need to do legs.
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>>159081
genuine skill issue i'm afraid

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S&G 6730 Internals Edition

A thread dedicated to the art of lock manipulation and the art of lockpicking.

Good resources regarding the art and skill of lockpicking and primarily safe manipulation.

-https://www.docdroid.net/sVRijBi/the-art-of-manipulation-pdf
-https://youtu.be/GhfDJIXsirg?si=0j6-LcvH63sDuqII
-https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mdjQBV_-Jv2lf9QZ4chNtW656EOVXzl

Thanks for stopping by!
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OP here, I don't know if this can be classified as an extreme sport but it a very niche sport.
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While competitive, /diy/ would probably be a better fit. In the vein of chainsaw and wood chopping stuff.
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>>193480
That's probably for the better, I'll just repost this thread there. If the mods choose to delete this that wouldn't be a bother.

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A new comfy F1 general now that the old one has gone off the rails lately

No Anime
No Twitterposting
No Redditposting
No posting literal shit
Strawposting and Gimiposting welcome

Also reminder that F1 has had more deaths than many of the sports on this board, therefore extreme
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if I was torger right now I'd be sending many emails to proudy
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>2 years old thread
gimi
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>>191968
gimi
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>>164331
nothing
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gimi

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>Boxing is useless in a gun f-ACK
Sucker punching works too well
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So if the defender had a gun on him aswell and shot the attacker in self defence, it's all good. But if the defender drops the cunt and then boots him in the face to keep him down and out, that's on the defender and he becomes an attacker. Those rules are retarded
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>>189353
Being rich is not for niggas. It's for 1%.
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>>184594
Not in Brazil, not in that situation. The police know the people who do that are desperate animals who would eat the meat off your bone to live another day.
Beautiful non-telegraphed, whip fast right hand btw.
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>>186627
Bro it's Brazil, you are allowed to run down motorcycle bandits with your car
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>>189353
>'Murica
Rent-free. That happened in Brazil

This will be a thread for people of all grappling disciplines (judo, wrestling, BJJ, etc.) to come and discuss or ask about technique. Here, we can avoid the retarded debates and help each other out with youtube links, instructional suggestions, troubleshooting ideas, etc.

Any serious grappler likely has questions from outside their main discipline. A judo guy starting BJJ might have some questions, or a BJJ guy trying to get better at wrestling.

This is NOT a self defense circlejerk thread, or a A vs. B circlejerk thread. Start with something like
>discipline
>years of experience
>technique question or problem

I train at one of the most popular gyms in the world right now and I'm an instructional addict. I'll do my best to point people to the right resources.
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>>193719
well like I said I don't really want to beat a dead horse and I'm realizing its not my explanations that are the problem here
if you think opening your closed guard doesn't make it an open guard I'm not sure we can meet on this disconnect because you're just ignoring observable reality

same with shrimping, I already made my point
here's another person making the same point about shrimping
https://youtu.be/Coh_cE_nQH0?si=NlRE6B_9Q81-Mdl_&t=110
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>>193723
heh, they even discuss closed guard in this video too at 12:00
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Hey guys, I'm a BJJ blue belt looking to compete before I get my purple belt next year.
I feel my ground game is pretty good both offensively and defensively. I've been catching brown belts and purple belts at other gyms at open mats and whatnot, but usually only if I'm able to get on top or effectively lure them into traps on the bottom.
I'm looking to maximize my offense and I've concluded that I need to work on wrestling up and takedowns. Any good instructionals that'll help me with what I need?
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>>195020
Takedowns are a pretty big topic, but you can likely find plenty of good stuff on YouTube and from asking wrestlers/coaches at your gym. Basic stance, posture, and grip fighting will take you pretty far. Just be mindful that there is a clock running, and if you spend that whole time bullshitting on the feet you might not have an opportunity to score or submit. This could be a huge problem if you’re down on points.
For wrestling up, Nicky Ryan’s instructional and Craig Jones’s Power Bottom are pretty good. You will definitely need some good front headlock defense though.

You should start rolling with points in mind. I notice that a lot of blue belts will casually give up position when rolling, which is a terrible habit if you plan on competing. Get on top, and stay on top. Do not let anyone get a free sweep on you. You should have a few sweep, submission, and passing options that you know well. Some sort of plan will make a huge difference.
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>>195020
I want to help but I don't have anything to tell you except I truly believe all the pritt and chris paines shit breaks the sport of jiujitsu in a way that makes it completely trivial to win against most people

>Let me tell you first, I've been around.
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>>193281
Dun you eber do dis
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>>193281
I dunno that sounds pretty based
Especially if he beat up one of the bullies
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>>193281
I fail to see the problem with this. Are you mad he gave you the dangity dangity dang or something?
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Say what you want about corruption and fight fixing, but Pride used Bas and Rampage perfectly for promotion in the West. Just the right combination of violent and goofy. Almost literal cartoob characters that appealed to everyone for the same reasons.
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>>189222
Like 3/4s of Europe were vicious martial people until they recently softened up

>watching The Alpinist
>movie about free solo climbing
>introduces a bunch of famous free solo climbers at the beginning
>ALL of them died climbing
>the two climbers the movie is about died climbing

this sport is ridiculous. EVERYONE who made a name for themselves in it fucking died due to climbing aside from Alex Honnold

Why would anyone do this?
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>>189046
>thought differently
holy fuck am i posting on reddit.com?
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>>189050
Perhaps you are the one who's unironically retarded.
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>>153208
is it weird that I feel safer and more confident on ice than rock?
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>>137818
Yeah, they really did forget that
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>>137491
I heard a story about a group sport climbing
>Everyone in the group is high
>Girl gets to top anchor
>Starts descending NO ONE ON BELAY
>Rope is flying up from rope bag
>Close by climber JUMPS on the rope coil
>SAVES HER

>They get married

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>5'8 man vs 5'8 woman
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>>190375
Man are built even at brain level for fighting,
Women arent,
Even if you were paraplegic without one arm and a woman has a bat there is no reason you couldnt beat her
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>>190377
Sure, bud. What are your martial arts credentials?
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>>190380
Fjcking your mom
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>>190377
In that vid a girl is beating a healthy adult male tho
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>>190377
So your ancestor was the guy who legalized this?

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If I go to a boxing gym and I specifically tell my trainer I want to be good at the peekaboo style, how retarded will I look?
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>>190188
Same reason everyone wants to try the philly shell, to feel like le anime protagonist
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>>190200
>>190201
Not bad bruv
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>>190166
If he’s not a boomer he’ll probably have no idea what you’re even talking about
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>>190166
If you just get there and ask for that you will get look at like how my wife looks at me after I finish under 5s. If you wait some time and then make suggestions to your coach
>should i do this?
>coach i kinda like this, how can i do this but better?
then you'll probably be fine.

I specifically told my Muay Thai instructor long guard felt more comfortable and intuitive for me after a few classes and he just said "alright, let's work on it" but we never stopped working on other guards
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>>190166
The new meme now is soviet style

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>Just Another proof Boxing(SUCKER PUNCH) is the best fighting technique
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>>189184
that's not a sucker punch though
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>>189184
There is not a single sucker punch in that webm.
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>>189184
all of those guys had knives if you pay attention btw
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>>189184
Not a sucker bro, get it right. Dude was squared up with him, full eye contact.
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>>189466
This dude's a cunt. The other guys are deescalated as fuck, and he literally turns his back on them, and then proceeds to make a 180 turn just to elevate a regular sucker punch into a SUPER sucker punch.

I mean, if he had simply punched them while he was yelling in their face, that would have been bad enough, but he turned his back just to make it even LESS telegraphed? What kind of sociopathic shit is that lmao

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How do I knee someone without getting taken down?
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>>188358
collar ties and snap downs
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>>188358
Set it up and pull your leg back fast
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>>188358

Work your Thai clinch
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>>188358
be good at wrestling
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Did Dagestanis debunk striking?
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>>187963
>Khabib was going toe to toe with Connor on the feet for example
I think it debunked advanced striking. I believe Conor practiced striking more than Khabib and he looks like a better striker on paper but a haymaker to his face hurts him just like it hurts a mere mortal. Same with Adesanya vs Strickland. Izzy was a kickboxing champion and lost to a guy who ordinarily punched his face and kicked his belly. On the other hand, Jones' advanced striking always worked, even against Gustafsson who was a good boxer.
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>>188049
I don't think it really debunked anything. I think fighting has a rock-paper-scissors-ish aspect to it, where some people can give you a lot of trouble because they're simply a bad matchup for you. The power scaling isn't linear, to put it one way
The Dagestanis are dangerous because they're all well-rounded and dangerous both as strikers and as wrestlers, meaning they can give the "bad matchup" to anyone
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>>187961
Most dagestanis fighters are "bred aristocracy" for wrestling style fighting, they are born and raised in an environment where you wrestle your whole youth with an effective military combat system while being in a high altitude environment the whole time.
That being said, that is the perfect match for strikers that are weaker at wrestling, prime example is khabib vs connor, they just wear them out and close the distance while not engaging fully to avoid getting ko'd.
That being said, a competent matchup like khabib vs gsp would result in GSP smoking khabib
Also account that most of those dagestanis with good winrates were usually paired up against strikers that get shat on when brought down
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>>187961
Not at all. They are on average, very hard men, their skill floor is higher than the average man from pretty much any other country. But their skill ceiling is the same, they aren't superhuman. Khabib and Islam are great because they are exceptionally gifted. Who else is as dominant as them, no one. The more the Caucasians fight, the more we see they're more or less on level with fighters from anywhere else.
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>>187961

If anything, they debunked BJJ. There was a time when BJJ was king in the cage but with the Dagestanis it's become clear that fence wrestling and folkstyle leg and wrist rides are far more effective. The smothering, hold-down style is really demoralizing and exhausting for anyone to contend with. High level fighters can't just rely on knowing some good submissions anymore.


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