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/HEMA/ General - Hungarian Shield Edition

>What is HEMA?
HEMA stands for Historical European Martial Arts, sometimes also called Historical Fencing.
It's reconstructing how to fight with swords, daggers, polearms, and other weapons based on old European fighting treatises

>What does it look like?
Inside the World of Longsword Fighting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zueF4Mu2uM
Back to the source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBmNVHTmNs
Martin Fabian Sparring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8QlbKfX84k

>Where can I find these treatises?
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Category:Weapons


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>>253494
>man I really hope there's no troons at this club
I have bad news Anon.
>north Georgia
Okay maybe you have a chance. Godspeed, my sneed!
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>>253509
I'm mostly not wanting my poor wife to have to deal with them lol. I'm in a /g/ line of business, so I'm adept at stonefacing my way through interacting with trannies.
Is 800n really necessary for longsword jackets? The regular 350n SPES AP Light sounds to be much more breathable for hot climates, and this club mostly meets outdoors.
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>>253511
Oh we were just talking about that earlier in the thread, general consensus seems to be that 350n is definitely fine and the light jackets are also perfectly good for longsword. I always thought that was just my group but apparently it's common.

I don't know about women though, padding level is inversely correlated with your willingness to have bruises.
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>>253511
If I remember correctly, the Newton rating is puncture resistance, so not really a tremendous concern unless your opponent is a determined hyperactive spastic genuinely trying to skewer you.
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>>224017
What's the best cheap sabre waster?

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Is karate any good, or is BJJ or boxing better?
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>>252040
Cover and crash is a pretty effective way to get someone down
It doesn't work against other grapplers but against non-grapplers it's the easiest method
Basically an automatic win button
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Ever seen "Man of Tai Chi"?
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>>252111
Every nerd is a big buff bodybuilder nowadays it means nothing. It's just more embarrassing when Mr 100kg bodybuilder gets destroyed by some 80kg guy
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>>251945
Karate is fine, specially kyokushin, boxing is better, bjj is a meme that will get you killed.
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>>251945
Bjj is good as complementary to wrestling or judo, otherwise you'll have bad takedowns and zero standup game. Karate is good if they do full contact. Boxing is good.

What are the primary differences between Japanese and Okinawan karate?
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>>251595
There is no circumstance where you will ever need to kick someone in the head
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>>251632
You can throw a roundhouse kick at targets other than head level too. The roundhouse kick wasn’t part of traditional Okinawan karate, and it doesn’t show up in any kata.
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>>251634
The roundhouse is a weird mid range kick you invest in to wear an opponent down over time
That doesn't align with karate ideals of acting decisively and winning as quickly as possible
You have to totally change karate to accommodate that one technique which honestly doesn't bring anything to the party
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Japanese/point karate is still better than Okinawan karate because while okinawan karate goes in depth into kata and actually teaches what the moves are supposed to be, it almost exclusively trains in kata which is useless for fighting, japanese karate, even if its point karate atleast has sparring to develop the timing and distance management necessary to be able to fight.
Modern okinawan karate does sparring sometimes but it looks the same as any other japanese karate style without the secret kata stuff so all the "useful" stuff the japanese removed is still useless because if you don't use it in sparring against someone trying to rearrange your face, you simply can't use it in a fight no matter how useful or effective the technique is supposed to be.

Even the most efficient jab in boxing is useless if you only ever do shadowboxing and never spar.
So all the gay shit the japanese added is still more useful because its regularly used in sparring.
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>>248343
Japanese karate has less larping, I mean less bunkai or "practical" application of kata.

Japanese - kata is basically formalized as a dance, but they do it anyway

Okinawa - they still pretend kata is useful

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How fucked am I

Posted this on another board before but this one seems better, my apolocheese
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>>252538
Good luck! It's not impossible or anything, just realize that you'll probably need to plan ahead for opening classes for income. KB pay is not great.
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>>252539
Thank you! And I heard that, I could also do boxing, but I love kickboxing much more. Did it a few years when I was 18, but stopped to focus on education etc., biggest mistake of my life lol because it got me nowhere except older. I also heard that connections are pretty important, but my old trainer is a friend of the father of my friend, and he knows all the guys in the country, even the ones who teach the police and stuff. But he is one greedy and slimy mfer, and from the events where I have been, it seems like 90% of promoters and gym trainers are like that, which is honestly one of the parts I look the least forward to, but that's life. Only thing I can do about it is start my own promotion one day and ensure its cool
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>>252538
Just train. If you're ready to fight, you'll know. If you aren't cut out for it, you'll know.

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please tell me im not the only one who swears his name has always been Mike Valley
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wow
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bump
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>>90589
Longcat is looooooooong and you made it happen anon
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>>90589
You did it. You actually did it.
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>>90589
Proud of you anon
wherever you are

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Most overrated Skateboarder of all time. All this dude ever did was ollie, no comply, boneless, and caveman boardslides. He couldn't grind for shit, couldn't manual for shit. All his parts suck ass. How he was ever considered like a great legend I will never know.
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>>246365
Fucking this. He's "contributing" too much.
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>>246323
>pretty underground as far as skaters go
He's literally in 6 THPS games. You almost couldn't be less underground in the skating realm.
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>>246367
You want to try to disprove Vallely as a shit skater by posting this?? LMAO.

Though it does make me miss the old days where you could just fs 180 off a 1 1/2ft kicker and the crowd goes wild lmao.
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>Most overrated Skateboarder of all time

But enough about Tony Hawk.
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>>244717
I swore this guy's name was Mike Valley

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Why isn't muay thai a big thing outside of ladyboyland if there are so many people who hate grappling and for some reason watch mma?
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>>252178
>state time where it (whaa-cha! in general) was mainstream in the west despite being oriental
>talk about how it was popular and sought after despite fights not being necesarilly televised constantly and people watching matches (not like there weren't any, though. It was an era issue, mainly)
>sprinkle examples of it being incorporated into culture. Also about it being deformed
>imply nobody gives a shit about it now in comparisson (implicit)
>(implicit) rise in popularity could happen to another martial art, or like it happened with WSM thanks to youtube and stuff. Like Bare knuckle is trying to pull. Specially if UFC can't rule out the boredom
Maybe nobody gives a shit about poor Billy and his nog fatigue, but where his trucking bills get spent. Maybe, tomorrow, will be lei tai tickets.
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>>252230
The 70s 80s was a different time, no internet etc so karate Bruce lee stuff was seen as the new thing the New craze the new magic that wil btfo 100 guys

How internet rules out bullshit
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>>252236
yeah
I remember looking at some no stupid rules mma stuff online and then during the dagestan UFC arc the views multiplied like 100x
Almost as if the internet provided an alternative to "15 minutes in heaven with some dysgenic"
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>>252035
>Also nothing more westerner than karate am I right
Bad example, as the West doesn't give a shit about karate; any martial art with kata (dance moves meant to help train muscle memory) is generally only taught to children, plus any martial art that talks about chi/ki/qi is openly mocked.

>>252148
>bruce lee
>jet li
>jackie chan
>the shaolin myths
>Steven Seagal
I'm not sure you know what karate is, anon. BTW, during the 80s when Eastern martial arts became famous in the West, the one to grow the biggest was Judo. TKD and karate had to be westernized into kickboxing because the mysticism of it all was considered ridiculous.
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>>217230
Because usa already had boxing for a specialist style, that's not to say boxing is better than Muay thai, i like it far more than boxing but the audience was already captured by boxing so no other style can replace it just like in thai land no other style actually matters because they have Muay thai.
Japan has a variety of styles but all are japanese and lets them pick their flavor of autism.

Mma was able to grow in usa because the concept of a completely alien style facing eachother like boxing vs wrestling was unique and an entire new genre of autism that tickled the tribalism aspect of human nature.
Humans like to create communities and like the feeling of belonging to one and other communities are enemies, this is human nature and its why team sports are so popular, it allows the viewers to feel as part of a community and fight others and prove the superiority of their own, mma allows this which no other specialist style allows.
Mma fans that hate grappling hate it not because grappling itself is bad but because the hyperspecialization goes against the very nature of mma, nobody complains about grappling in mma when they are beating the shit out of eachother then scramble and try to rip eachother arms off or flatten their face on the ground, people complain when there's 20 minutes of ground control and minimal strikes or even submission attempts.
It would be like if in muay thai someone goes for the clinch but never does anything with it, no knees, elbows or sweeps or if they spend most of the match snap kicking the leg while running away avoiding everything to win on points because the other guy didn't land anything.

Muay thai can't be successful outside thailand because everyone else already have their sports established and it doesn't offer anything than the others don't.
That said even in thailand its being slowly assimilated by kickboxing and mma.

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>>252144
I think they talk the most shit out of anyone relative to how much they never fight
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>>252186
They also slap and it was a form developed by women, so the theory checks out.

TKD is fairly gay however. You ever watch it at the olympics? Just tiny thin gooks flaling pant legs at each other for contact with 0 power. Its like the flag football of martial arts.
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>>252210
I can find things to respect about shit martial arts, some redeeming quality that makes them worthwhile

For TKD I am impressed by the flexibility and balance they cultivate. Even if it's not good for fighting the up side of physical fitness is always a good quality
I don't think I have anything nice to say about WC
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>>252130
Matt Samurais here, just give in, and sleep
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>>252213
The first ip man was alright.

>>252235
I dont know what that means, but sleeping is nice.

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It's Kendo.
But you do it with real swords.
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>>251271
>>252253
Like this?
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>>251271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBF6YDwhUU
it was called Holmgang
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>>252267
Of course it's the Germans that do such things. If the Germans do it than the Hungarians must be doing it also as they copy everything from the Germans.
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>>252290
jew wish
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>>252261

Any Pickleball enjoyers in here? We started playing at work every day for a few hours and HOLY SHIT.. it's good
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I've never been but I ordered some paddles. Will my $25 Walmart paddles work ok?
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>>243237
Dude you should try this thread over on /sp

Though, pickleball is extreme af..
I saw some guys with face tattoos playing pickleball and they were dri king redball and getting real rowdy.
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>>243237
I pickle my balls in your mouth, retard.
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there are pickleball courts near my local skatepark and its all balding old men and hot zoomer chicks
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>>243237
>at work
>playing for a few hours
You don't have a job, you're in daycare.

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All about Hooliganism, arranged fights, forest and street.

Anything is allowed to defeat your opponent, except for weapons and dishonorable things like kicking in the testicles or pulling hair.


>Hooligans.cz:
https://hooligans.cz/

>GruppaOF for Arranged Fights:
https://t.me/s/GruppaOF_arrangefight/71

>Ultras Croatia:
https://t.me/s/UltrasCroatia/914

>Ultras-Tifo Forum:

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>>252042
I mean
I've caused a couple
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>>252048
you sure know me a lot, eh?
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>>252079
what did you expect?
>*hork*
:
"Wot dee fock didyah just focken sae aboot meh, ya lettle cunt? Ah'eel hav'ya knou Aeh gradoo'e-ted toppo'mah' class ende SBS, end Ahve bean envolved en noomerous se-cret reids end Claret, ond Aeh hav ovah shot mae gun ovah ten fucken taems. Aehm trained end gorilla woh-feh end Aehmdatop snahpeh enden tire UK saylers. You nothen but some wanker to put duqwn tah me, cunt. Ael glass yah eith precission laek you can't seh, mate. You heeren meh? cunt?. Bloody tryn tah talk shet an kick it beh-coss yere in da tv, git? Yah muppet, yoew. As I tak we getten with me lads to stomp yer minging twat, ya daft cunt. Ets close to 90 ende clock soe will flag a trolley, twit. Can get both colors on yah, that's how shet your funny lettle comment was. But yeh could-nt shut yer mouth, could yah? I reckon yer done, mate. Yah wanker."
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>>252070
It walks like a duck, it talks like a duck, it deflects the argument like a duck. I'm speaking in generalizations, mate. Try to be less of an obvious duck.
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>>252139
what's the argument here?

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How risky is it to learn to box with vision problems? Is it possible to learn real boxing, meaning with sparring, if you have myopia or moderate astigmatism? I can't stand feeling so insecure about my body and my lack of willpower
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>>250634
I'm short sighted and i do kickboxing, it's not a problem, the distance where you throw punches is close enough, yeah you might be at a small disadvantage but it's not like you're aiming for world championship. If you're really worried do grappling instead.
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>>250634
my vision kinda sucks, the honest answer is that it depends. You're not going to need super hawk vision for anything, you're not looking for them to clench their first in a magic death punch or nothing. If you can see their body and the general twist of their hands, that's gonna be sufficient.
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>>250634
use the force
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>>250634
You can adapt with training.

Naoya Inoue sustained a cut during a boxing match against Donaire, which impeded his vision. He compensated by gluing his right hand over his compromised eye, which he learned from watching Donaire himself when it happened to him in a previous fight. webm related


Prior to getting eye surgery, former interim UFC champion Justin Gaethje was almost legally blind.

>20/60 in one eye and 20/200 in another eye
>far sighted in one eye and nearsighted in another eye

His fighting style at the time reflected this. He used a forward-pressure style with a high guard and relied on taking hits on his forearms and wrestling with his hands to know whether they were close enough to hit.
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>>250634
There was a local famous heavyweight who wore thick "Bubbles-style" glasses when he wasn't fighting

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Got my gur rank for the styles of Kali and Silat I do two years ago. Still feel like a failure and that I don't deserve it.
Fractured ribs on my first Guro ranking attempt which I of course I failed. Does the feeling ever go away?
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>>252025
>Got my guro rank

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Hello everybody . So like a 6 months ago my old "friend" begged me to lent my dh mtb to his friend, and I told it would be a good idea to strengthen our friendship. with some hesitation I lent it to them the next day. Shortly after 2 days they returned everything was fine, and than they begged me to lent them bike again because his friends bike was broken, and we decided to store it at my basement. Than 1,2 days after they took that broken bike out of basement and sold it. And then begged to lent my dh Bike again for 4 days, because "I don't need I'm not riding that much" well yes I was preparing for exams. I said like ok but not for more days, my parents didn't knew that I lent it. Than passed like 2,3 weeks of me literally begging them to return it, also my "old friend" was my classmate so I was questioning him every day, and he replied : it's not my problem you lent bike to him not to me. I can write even more in details what happend but it would be long if anyone interested in. After 3 weeks of me begging them they returned me it, transmission destroyed, and every bearing was with rusty water. As an excuse for what they did, they said that I abandoned my friend when we were 13 years old in the forest, and it was telling his friend who wasn't even at the moment it happend, basically imagine the start of small local forest near city where many people hanging out, and we left him in close to exit area waiting for him like literally a wide trail that goes only in one way, as result he walked out with bike only with some mud stains on shirt. And that was an excuse, ok but then they told that they found buyer for my cycle, but they will be selling it without me without my supervision because they told everybody that it's their cycle. I declined it and then they threatened me that they won't give back my tools that I lent them earlier. At this point I told my parents about it, and I got my tools back, and it's not the end of the story. It is too long.
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what lessons did you learn?
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>>246766
yea, dont lend people anything. i had to go around to my neighbours to get my paintbrush back that they never used after 3 months,
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>>246766
well you learned who your friends really are.

As a proper bike autist I never let people borrow anything that I want back in the end.

And never to anyone who is black, Indian, or has any kind of YN behavior

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hi /xs/ this is my cat rupert, hes a very adventurous cat and i was thinking about going skydiving with him.

ive been skydiving before and i liked it, does anyone have any experience skydiving with a cat, or any pet?
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>>246088
That’s a pretty shitty idea anon, stressing the hell out of your cat for no reason is just abuse. Rupert is very cute though.
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>>246088
wait, like, THE Rupert? Like picrelated?
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Rumor has it if a cat has enough time to right itself and spread out their terminal velocity is lower than what it takes to injur them so beyond
No gear required, just drop him and he'll be fine
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>>251648
OP is this you
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>>251648
dude another rupert get, rare added to my collection


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