I was at a bar and some dude out of nowere headbutted a friend of mine. I stepped in to sepparate them and got shoved by the guy who headbutted him. After getting shoved I froze, I couldnt move, i was afraid and couldnt react.Up until now i thought i could avoid getting in fights by just being chill. I never thought someone would attack unprovoked.This made me seriously consider going to a boxing gym. Would this make me not freeze in situations like this? Is boxing a good combat sport to learn to defend yourself? Any anons have had a similar reaction get fixed by training?
>>201174This is true, there was a time when I was going to BJJ class 5 days a week for about 3 years, because I was a former fatty and was obsessed with weight loss.After awhile you get into a weird "zone" where it doesn't matter if your sparring at 50% or 100% intensity, you kind of mentally zone out and just let your body do the grappling.Afterwards you may be breathing heavily but mentally your relaxed, just waiting for the 90 second next sparring partner change to start.Same thing happened when I trained judo, at first I hated being thrown and was a terrible partner, because I was constantly stiffening up.After a while you just become like jelly and being thrown is no different than stretching.
>>201174This guy knows what's up. Most people freeze first, some stay in that stage until the situation is over while others will move on to fight/flight/subservient. You can even observe this reaction in animals.To the op, get in to any sport/martial art that has an element of someone physically trying to dominate you. Most people freeze because outside of fighting as a kid they never really have experienced another grown human getting physically hostile with them.
>>200104>Very few street fights go to the ground.Why do retards say shit? It's demonstrably false.People who don't know how to fight will grab you. People with bad footwork will fall down. People who drop someone else don't just wait for you to stand up again. Also you don't get to decide where the fight is going to go or who your oponent will be.Just watch any number of street fights that last longer than a single punch, they do end on the floor. Stop spewing retarded shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZT5cWmDwl0Train MMA always.
>>199826I'll be honest with you OP, that instinct to freeze might never go away. I trained a lot of martial arts over the years, I sparred and fought in matches just fine; never had the freezing problem in competition. BUT when something happens in an IRL situation my body suddenly feels like it's clasped in chains. Even though my mind is calm and making rational decisions, every physical motion feels way heavier and slower than it should. The truth about Fight/Flight/Freeze is that it's genetic and your body will respond to adrenaline in one of those contexts with very little you can do about it. I would love not to have the freeze response but atleast I can still inefficiently push past it and atleast its not a flight response which I would hate more. All that said, with my body freezing up on me my striking training has been less useful than my grappling. I struggle to move with speed but my sense of balance is fine and I can still perform most techniques in order to pin or submit someone. Try something like BJJ or Judo, BJJ in particular is easy even with the freeze response.
>>212750Hello Ack, what brings you to /x/?
>trying to decide between going for a walk or playing disc golf. Played disc golf yesterday for reference.
not sure how there could be a course better than my home course stafford woods. are there even any contenders?
>>194086GOD DAMMIT DGN IS ON TRANNY COVERAGE AGAIN
>>194090this guy hasnt seen people get fkn domed
>>211919I hope someone smashes the tranny's hand with a fkn hammer
So glad I get to play maple hill fairly regularly. Marshall Street is literally Disc Golf Walmart
Kind of late in the game turning 30 soon so assume it’s best to just focus on one discipline and take lessons there. For a 6’4 man who is 200lbs and decently in shape what is the most practical fighting discipline to take up for self defense? Already have ccw but just want to be capable in a bad situation now that I have wife and kids. Involved in sports in stuff but would be a total noob in a fight despite my size. Appreciate any insight
>>209338traditional or bjj?
>>209338>jiu-jitsuThe sport where people get on their knees to prepare to suck dick and call it "pulling guard." Jiu Jutsu purists suck, I've seen those grapplers fail to take their opponent to the ground so they lay down and ask the referee to force their opponent to get down with them. Only people who were good at JJ were people who were Judokas first like Mitsuyo Maeda (the guy who taught the Brazilians Judo and Jiu Jutsu) for example.
>>207778>Appreciate any insightFirst, look around your area at what styles are even available. No point setting your heart on Judo if no one teaches it in your area.Once you know what's in your area, you choose between them based on which one has sparring and which one you like the people at. Better to learn Taekwondo at a place you like than not learn MMA because you hate the MMA people and place. Similarly, nothing's practical if you don't practice it full-speed.Third, self defense is honestly not a great reason to learn martial arts. A good amount of self-defense occurs before punches start flying and martial arts as they're generally taught contain a lot of stuff that you probably won't find useful in a street fight. I've never seen a calf kick in a street fight, but you'll see them all the time in MMA, because they're pretty different contexts. Final note; what I wish I'd given myself permission to do earlier in life is just learn martial arts without worrying about whether they're "practical." You should just learn them because they're interesting. Go study fucking Aikido if you find that interesting for whatever reason. Your odds of getting into a real fight at any point in your life are slim to none.
>>212705>First, look around your area at what styles are even available. No point setting your heart on Judo if no one teaches it in your area.>Once you know what's in your area, you choose between them based on which one has sparring and which one you like the people at. Better to learn Taekwondo at a place you like than not learn MMA because you hate the MMA people and place.True enough.>Third, self defense is honestly not a great reason to learn martial arts.I heavily disagree.>A good amount of self-defense occurs before punches start flyingYes, but that's not a reason to not learn how to fight.>I've never seen a calf kick in a street fight, but you'll see them all the time in MMA, because they're pretty different contexts.I have, here's my unwanted anecdote, A guy we'll call fighter A was once approached by two people who are the "never took martial arts but just see red" type (they approached him over a jersey, I think they cheered different American Football teams), anyways one of the guys swung a punch at fighter A's face and fighter A gave that guy a calf kick, then the second aggressor approached fighter A and he gave a teep kick that pushed the guy backwards into the ground. After one aggressor got some pain in his calf and the second one was on the ground, they decided to swallow their pride and walk away while yelling and insulting fighter A. I'd never seen such a miracle before, two troublemakers seeing reason and walking away. It might've been the kicks, or it might've been that fact that fighter A was unfazed after getting punched, but the aggressors left.
Capoeira is very underrated and misunderstood, specially by its own practitioners. >almost perfect use of momentum>almost complete mitigation of the disadvantages of falls>lots of unorthodox movements and weird striking angles>lots of level changes, perfect for transition to grapplingYet retards will tell you it's just a dance or that it doesn't work when it has historical proof it worked against even armed opponents. From what I gathered, it seems Brazil doesn't want to export just the fighting side of Capoeira because that would be racist or something. Can any Brazilians shine the light on why this shit isn't being taught in every school like Judo and BJJ?
>>212098All the more reason that my statement that "it is not underrated" is correct. Thank you for supporting my point.
>>212101I misread it kek
Watch this Capoeira guy casually kick as hard as Mike Tyson can punch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqzW17E0jFk
Capoeira will give you insane bodily control, athleticism, and reflexes but it can't be the main art you practice. There are alot of brazillian professional fighters like anderson silva that mog hard because their capoeira backgrounds. Energy wise, In a cage fight, Using capoeira expends a shit ton of energy if you're going to be doing all those spinny kicks you got to have monster hunter level timing and precision or youll get tired out.
>>212689bad for a cage, fine for an encounter on the street where everyone goes all-in on every single punch anyway
>motocross is so dead there isn't even a thread for it on /xs/ its so over
>>212239
>>212293so the rider is turning left by kicking the ground with his left foot?
>>212363no
>>212382>nokicking the ground with his right foot?
>>212693read @211054
Is kicking a viable option in a street fight?
>>211734Yes, you fucking idiot, obviously. I trained muay Thai for years and a good roundhouse is fucking devastating. As is a well placed front push kick.
>>211852Yeah i may have just walked into a bad bjj gym.
Only Muay cut kicks or the Chasse Bas from Savate if need be. No high kicks at all since it'll expose your crotch to attacks. A kick to the thighs (a good low kick will immobilize a noob) or a well-placed chasse bas to the kneecap will be good to use.
>>211734>>211811Westerners, Anglosphere especially, just don't kick. We've all grown up on MoQ boxing and generally treat kicks like a kung fu theatre sideshow. Kicks are definitely viable but most people suck at kicking in controlled environments, let alone a frantic street fight fueled by adrenaline and impulse.
>>212675Not me though
please tell me im not the only one who swears his name has always been Mike Valley
>>90589Wow congrats
>>95669Mike V is love, Mike V is life
>>209180I believe this happened irl
stic to your containment thread, plankflippers
>>209112quit being a fucking faggot Valley
Which is more skillful/impressive?>inb4 this isn't an /xs/ sportImagine you're juggling live grenades before tossing them.
>>212364hands evolved for manipulating objects, feet evolved for walking. this makes foot juggling more impressive, but in my opinion also more retarded, because you limit yourself by using a suboptimal tool for the jobhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6YKCsI00D4
I WANT THOSE TWO WOMEN IN YOUR PIC TO KICK ME IN THE FUCKING DICK LIKE A HACKY-SACK BALL
>>212568>more retardedOutside of party tricks I can't imagine juggling with either pair of limbs as being crucial for human life/survival.
Want to participate in one of the most ultimate extreme sports? Come Skydive.Either do a tandem for ~S220 (Don't get video you will watch it once or twice and it costs $120+) or go through AFF and jump with your own gear every jump ($~3600 for the first 8 jumps or so) Most jumps are $60-70 after that if renting gear, or ~$30 if you have your own.Any questions? Ask away I'm an insutructor
>>198896Mid 20s male, small/midsize DZ in the midwest. I started skydiving recently. Graduated AFF and did my first solo. 3 hours of tunnel time. How do I fit in at the DZ going forward? What will make people like me?
>>210737Get in some belly flying, jump in on a speedstar here and there. Don't be a gear queer, don't be weird, don't be dangerous. The only dumb question is one not asked.Hanging out with people your skill level is safe and you have stuff in common that makes it easy to talk, but you can't learn from them. Look to the videographer/AFF who also funjump and see if you can't ask them a question here and there about a video they are debriefing/watching and ask about going on that type of jump.Making people like you is a loaded question - hang out, buy some beers, get into conversations, listen a lot, but also ask questions. The newbies who were wondering how to do something, get started into a discipline, or looking for recommendations ended up leaving an impression on me as someone who was going to be in the sport for a while and was worth investing a friendship, time, or coaching on. If you are only showing up one weekend a month it's going to be hard to stand out and also be recognized.
Just did my first skydive yesterday (tandem so not super legit), I made the decision of paying for photos and I looked like a fucking retard. So I second what OP has to say.Going to go solo when the company gets back to me, any tips?
>>199891This looks sick, when I get my license I will be going next year.
>>211562Pay attention to your instructors, see if they can't hook you up with tunnel time ($10-15 a minute if you are going with other skydivers), and be prepared to be a bitch to the wind, the clouds, and the temperatures.>>211563seek out Louis French if you are ready for 10-15 ways by then - dude is VERY good at teaching and setting up fun dives
I'm looking for a martial art where people spar without the primary focus of the art being on competition. From my experience, it seems to be either one or the other.
That's probably gonna depend more on any given individual school/gym than style. Imo judo and jiu jitsu tend to have the highest number of noncompetition but sparring heavy students, but that's not really gonna be indicative of any given location. Boxing might be the hardest to find a middle unless you're somewhere its cultural like the UK.
>>212357Judo or BJJ gym where the average age is 30+
anyone here done this shit before? i first became aware of it back in 2015 and the idea of it made me want to shit my pants but ever since i see nothing but reels on instagram of people doing it and now i know that i must. theres not too much on the internet about this though aside from some training schools, youtube comments and videos that ive found. people saying,"dont do this if you plan to have kids" but then checking the accident/fatality rate of participants and its pretty low. what kind of gear do you guys get for this shit and is this the type of sport you can expect to die doing in reality or is that just for people who are shooting for a redbull helmet, not the casuals?
>>209972I've dabbled. It was a different sport back in 2008ish when I gave it a try. I bought an ozone bullet 14m. I hadsome skydiving and base jumping experience so I just transferred my knowledge of ram air canopies to my new wing and got by well enough to survive a few flights. There weren't really any speed flying schools back then so a friend and I just kinda figured it out. I mostly did sled rides but managed some high wind ridge soaring a few times. Anyway, you can't make it completely safe, but you can make it as dangerous as you want. Comparing it to other sports it's probably more dangerous than skydiving and less dangerous than base jumping. Launching is probably a little more dangerous than paragliding due to the speed, but a speed wing has a lower chance of collapse once you're flying. If you choose not to fly super close to the ground it can be made reasonably safe. A beginner wing should probably be in the 14-16m range, and by the time you downsize to a 12m wing you're starting to move fast enough to break bones on bad landings. Sub 10m wings are moving fast enough to kill you on an uncontrolled landing. I say if you can find a school near you, give it a try. It's a lot of fun.
>>209972>>210724this dude knows what's up even if it's old experienceIn the US? Go to Utah.Get good at either skydiving or paragliding first - put a LOT of time into that and find a mentor. Speedflying is fucking dangerous and people die/get crippled all the fucking time. It is FUCKING fun thot. Skydiver who rips down mountains on a Leia
Looking to start Judo pretty soon, but I have a major concern - not worried about bodily injuries as I know that sort of thing is expected in full contact martial arts. But how common are head/brain injuries, even if they are light? I’m talking concussions or any significant bumps to the head.Anyone have any experience of this, or know how common head injuries are in Judo?t. Physicist, need my brain for work
>>193697>Do you think a judoka at the trial class of the YMCA has the same risk of breaking his neck as the judoka who'd do anything to win at the Olympics?I think Judo is an exceptionally special case because white belts are notoriously spastic in their movements. I bet you have a really interesting looking inverse parabola of likelihood of injury. You'd get safer and safer until nikkyu and then ramp up preparing for shodan and then ramp up the more intense your competitions get.
>>211436it wouldn't be inverse, it'd be regular I'm a brainlet
Why the fuck would I want to do any of this rollfag shit
>tfw lingering hip pain after a tournament It's mostly hip abduction. Can I yoga my way out of this one?
>>212448you might but you should get xrayed and see a PT anyway
Post all things related to baton and knife fighting.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnis
>>205523Nta. Looks like someone just applied an olympic fencing framework to it.
>>205523That looks really fun. I wish i could try that.
>>203107Current HEMA thread has a stick theme >>>/xs//hema/
>>203107You didn't even mention France's cane fencing which apparently is a part of Savate.
>>189989>The reality is weapons training makes your empty hands better.The opposite is also true, anyone learning empty hand striking or grappling is improving their knife skills greatly.
Don't do hard sparing with strikes to the head all the time. Spar light most of the time. When you do spar hard do it with someone you trust to keep hard strikes to the body and still keep all strikes to the head light and fully controlled. If you do full contact fights, a good chunk of your training leading up to it should be about protecting your head at all time. It's that simple.
>>208334>Concussions occur by accidentTwo men stepping into a ring with the express aim of knocking the other one out.
Learn not to get hit? Sprinting and some track
>>212434On a serious level if you want to learn to fight without the risks there's plenty of sports and stuff out there. Not everyone has to go mental in a class but if your worried about pain and damage just do something else that you may find fun
>>207902Just listen to everything that this guy >>208354 said. Any gym that hard spars is pointlessly risking injury. You learn better with light sparring (just like the Muay Thai guys), and you pressure test better with full contact competitions (if that's your thing).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twE-zdUkB_U
How do we save this shitheap of a martial art? All suggestions and general Power Era nostalgia welcomet. ITF 2nd dan (but not trained in years)
>>211263Taekwondo (as well as it’s closest relatives, shotokan and tang soo do), was already almost fixed. American kickboxing. It only fell out of relevance because of the above the waist only striking leading to a sidewards stance that muay thai absolutely annihilated.To bring it back to relevance, simply add low kicks, but keep the WT weighting of points (while keeping the boxing/kickboxing method of scoring). Basically higher, spinning or jumping kicks score more than punches or low kicks. So they’d be prioritised, but low kicks and face punches would exist so the taekwondo guys would be able to deal with them. A sport that prioritised spinning head kicks would be extremely exciting and popular. Make it a four points of contact system (feet and hands only - “foot fist way”) to justify it’s place between the sweet science and the art of eight limbs, and have them use small gloves (kyokushin should have done this, instead of dropping head punches) and suddenly there’s justification for mma fighters to train it. You’d probably produce a champion eventually.
>>212377K1 rule was still better with catching kicks and knee
