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What's up with huge guy usually not knowing how to fight?
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>>250012
Heavyweights are weird, you can't really knock them out unless you drop a bomb, so they just walk at you throwing straits, Foreman, Butterbean, Holyfield
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>>250012
They are form over function a lot of the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpJ4wUmaDOg
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>>250013
I did. Ez win for me.
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>>258802
Ah. Someone who is somewhat competent. Rare sight these days.
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>>258802
>guys aren't capable of being fast/explosive at that size
coping victim weight

>best fighters capped out at like 230lbs
because it's very hard to get even heavier, unless you have an eating disorder and drink straight vegetable oil, and 15kg of additional muscle mass will do less than watching vids of your opponents fights and training to counter anyway

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discuss martial arts here

Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/8Vw9d7j

What to look for in a martial arts gym:
>Physically conditioned, fit participants
>Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully
>Sparring, "aliveness" in training
>At least one participant competes at amateur or professional level
>Clean facility with mats that are frequently sanitized

What to be wary of:
>Fat, physically subpar students
>Graduation fees (e.g. "pay $200 and advance to next belt extra quick!")
>No proven athletes training there

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>>270945
>add bets and showbusiness
Boxing, kickboxing, catch wrestling, etc. were already notorious for that.
>remove everything around it besides what's "necessary"
It's the most permissive mainstream competition ruleset.
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>>270947
>It's the most permissive mainstream competition ruleset.
and "MMA" is so broad and spread out that you cannot afford to specialize in anything but the most basic, generic and straightforward skills for the ruleset with your limited training time.
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>>270949
Taekwondo, Greco-Roman wrestling, etc. still exist as Olympic sports if you want to get into something niche at a high level.
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>>270956
The point isnt what's best/most effective or what whoever wants to do, it's that with mma being the current meme, the martial arts/combat sports ecosystem shapes itself around it and its culture whether it's conscious or not, the biggest names are ufc fighters, people think about it, try to adapt to/incorporate it, they incorporate the american soft power/mindset around it, "niche" dojos or genuine/local clubs get rarer as they either find no one, die out with no heirs or convert to the new movement.
Martial arts have always been cultural and it's normal for a culture to evolve obviously, but I despise the current trend it's going for and I dislike how hard it's becoming to ignore
Iirc people said the same last century with karate going sporty, heirloom conflicts and export being bad, the west had its fad of traditionnal martial arts, I guess we're going back to it being exotic or misunderstoid
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>>270956
why do you keep missing the point? of course you can train things besides "MMA" but this doesn't detract from "MMA" training being a super streamlined cookie cutter approach that attempts to do everything all at once because that's what actual MMA althletes do to get ahead in a highly demanding sport with their afforded time.

so if you're planning to train in things beyond "MMA" anyways why not replace the basic generalist mma training with something that better complements your other sport of choice, be it grappling, striking or whatever, especially since you're already taking the time away from that type of training by doing a separate different martial art instead.

if you're training separate disciplines you're also doing MMA, just in a different way and for a different ruleset than the specific "MMA" as a sport that's popular nowadays as a very streamlined form for that type of competition.

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Adrenaline junkies...

Jumping from high altitudes, and wearing a flying squirrel suit, with jets...

Or using a moto x bike with water skies, and Riding in the ocean... Breaking limits maan...
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For me? It's caving. I map those bitches out.

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Maid Edition

Old thread >>267049
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>>271396
I can just ollie on and off the manual pad. The walls are too steep for me to wall ride even

This park feels boring, so I thought I'd ask
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>>271397
>The walls are too steep for me to wall ride even
You can make it up there with speed, I'm a newb and did it on a whim, the getting off part is what's difficult.
If you've really dialed in ollieing off the manual pad you could ollie off the top.
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>>271397
wallie up it. just go fast and jump/go weightless up the thing
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>>271399
he'd be better off starting with rolling off before trying to pop an ollie off the damn thing, he wouldn't need that much speed to clear the slope
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>>271394
you cant, *reads paper* ollie a curb?

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/xs/! What is best in life?
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skatin
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running big days in the mountains, smiling and feeling the alpine air in my hair. seeing that bright summer sun lighting up the wildflowers. grabbing onto solid rock and scrambling your way across a ridge and up a summit, and being scared but still in control. skiiing down the fine scree on the other side, and watching hundreds of meters pass by in minutes. seeing that far valley floor, with the hemlocks and the cedars and the lake at the basin grow closer and closer, and knowing there's snacks at the car at the trailhead and theres friends you haven't made yet at the hostel or parking lot... thinking about the fire you'll have that night, and the tea youll have in your hands, and wondering who will be there beside you.
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>>269971
OP, stop
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>>128226
Fuck off troon
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a warm cabin with a fire, after surviving a hike over a mountain in a storm.

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>training martial arts for fun
Based
>training martial arts for competition
Based
>training martial arts for the streets
Cringe
>training taekwondo/karate for the streets
Cringe and waste of time

If you could only teach your daughter one martial art for self-defence, what would it be?
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>>267441
This, dressing not-immodestly, Noticing, Muay Tai + Greco-Roman.
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>>268503
>dressing not-immodestly, Noticing
underrated, I'll add, not being out after dark
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>>263901
Avoiding niggers
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All striking art is useless if you have no knockout power.
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>>270890
Striking includes defense too, which is arguably more important, especially when you can't hit hard.

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Ladies look amazing when they grapple
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>>269510
Ya sucks to lose a collection, especially for hidden gems. I do agree that theres an arching aspect to it as well. Many orgs went out of business before internet video streaming platforms and social media became a big thing. You may find clips here and there on sites, but those are often low quality uploads published years ago, or reuploads of the originals (further ruining video/sound quality). My collecting is more recent, but I also am making a habit to try and upload to cloud so I have a backup copy. The originals go on to ssd. In the past you'd use harddrives but those are unreliable.
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>>261880
Is it cringe/creepy to get turned on when grappling with women? I started BJJ recently and the beginner class had this smoking hot 19-20y/o college girl who was a tiny 5'0" asian with thick thighs and tight boobs. Soaked in sweat, barefeet, blood running hot. It was like Heaven rolling around with her pressing her steamy body against mine and feeling her legs wrap around me. I rubbed one out to the memories 3 times that week.
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>>270172
god I wish that was me
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>>270172
Damn. Nogi here in brazil only has guys.
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>>261880
Mixed wrestling and mixed fighting are my favourite categories. God bless Evolved Fights.

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I'm a lightweight, (1.78m, 60kg), i've been going to judo for some months now, I'm liking it a lot, but, is it comparable/better to wrestling? Especially for a guy my size, I always thought wrestling would be useless as from what I know, it uses a lot of raw strength, while judo (though it still uses strength) is better suited for taking down heavier/stronger people. Is this right? Should I try doing some wrestling? I find judo very good but also sometimes limited by the sport
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>>241734
I'm not good at judo by any means, training 2 years, and I can pretty convincingly ragdoll more athletic white belts. I admit part of it is they are scared, I might get smashed by someone who has 50 lbs on me and is going apeshit
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Suplexing ragatha
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>>235167
>In wrestling you would call it a headlock takedown
Actually head and arm throw
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>>242564
I actually do wrestling. yes they are rule, but it's in my opinion more fun than BJJ and more intuitive and free than judo at the start.
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>>242818
as someone who do both wrestling and sambo, don't try a Khurka/gi throw with normal clothes

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I just want the assurance that I can defend myself should it come to that INB4 get a gun, I live in Canada so I can't. I'm thinking about joining an MMA gym to do all of it but I don't think I would be able to put in the requisite time for both grappling and striking training while still lifting and doing cardio. If it is possible please tell me because I plan on going to the fighting classes 3-4 times a week, also please give me info on how much to spar including hard sparring, I want to get decent as fast as possible
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>>264617
Broooo is he still out there doing his thing? I was actually subscribed to his yt for a time until it slowly dawned on me that he is unhinged.
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>>259979
Good post.
I might qualify "kickboxing" with "preferably muay thai".
And if you've got some more time, I'd recommend a _little_ bit of wrestling, enough to cover the fundamentals even if you won't become good enough to match an actual/practicing wrestler.
A real wrestler is exceedingly unlikely to be attacking anyone without good reason. No need to devote time for that possibility.
But if you're on the ground with a wrong 'un, you'll be a whole lot better off if you have some muscle memory in grappling.
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>>251752
Learn to manage your temper and ego, deescalation and situational awareness. Be large, physically fit and intimidating to the common thug. Be able and willing to run away the moment the situation presents itself.

Get a pepper spray, maglite, collapsible baton(don't fucking blindly baseball swing it, wrist flick the tip at their hands and face like you're throwing a jab from a distance), then do some stand-up grappling and striking if you still have the juice.
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>>263967
turtle is the easiest ground position to stand up from, bottom guard is the hardest one. this is ten times true if striking is involved. your argument is invalid.
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>>251752
MMA/sambo/Daido

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Why are BJJ channels such obnoxious faggots?
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>>270279
Naww dude they got bullied in school bro they would lose if the guy had a gun I'd just kick them in the nuts bro
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>>261807
>winning unarmed fights
realistically? MMA, but it's not a martial art but a moniker for a complete system combining multiple different martial arts together which requires you mastering them individually to some extent. MMA training just streamlines the process by picking and focusing on the most applicable techniques within its context that require the least training and specialization to pull off, due to the enormous training cost associated with it.

failing that, >>261809 is correct and striking+clinch martial arts will teach you to take hits, avoid taking hits, hit back and some basic grappling to not be completely stunned when hugged. various upright grappling martial arts are good too, might even be better strategically for "winning" but pure wrestlers often lose composure and skill after taking hits they aren't really trained to defend against before closing in.

>or at least the best at improving your odds in a real life fight
talk-no-jutsu and a gun. failing that, >>>269103 . real life fights aren't a good thing to get into and even a good martial arts background won't improve your chances by much if the circumstances change, be it weapons, guy's pals, terrain you're unused for, your own physical condition and so on.
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>>248945
they are both doodgleniggers
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>>248375
Ecelebs are obnoxious faggots. Brazilians are obnoxious faggots. Redditors are obnoxious faggots. When an eceleb covers a Brazilian sport populated by redditors you can expect obnoxious faggotry.

>>270532
Peak favela nigger mindset.
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BJJ faggots aren't half as annoying as muay thai niggers tbqh.

why don't more people skate with bigger wheels? I'm talking 60mm and above.
it feels so much better to skate when you're not trying to balance precariously on little tiny baby wheels, where even a speck of dust will send you flying.
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>>261014
no he's a longboarder lol. 110 durometer doesn't exist and he can't slide. ud be sliding all over with 100 durometer
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>>260658
that black border around the board looks nice, care to share a full board pic?
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>>247111
People say this when they ride full-weighted Indy trucks and their board somehow outweighs my setup with Tensors and Mini-Cubics on it

57-64+mm, no risers, lightweight trucks, wax under the wells, way more fun to ride.
Smaller wheels have gotta be wider to even it out I think, and a wide 54's low enough to fit low trucks for tricks and that.
>>250571
NO U
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>>250852
I've got a pair of pre-owned wheels around 45mm now that are tolerable 'cause they're wide enough to keep SOME speed, and I got a 92 shaped board hung up in my garage. Could be a sick mix.
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54mm and I skate them until it feels really slow, and thatโ€™s usually around 48mm.for a park setup, I like 58.obsessing about weight is for girls, no hollow anything , I learned to kickflip on a pig shape with 169s and ratbones and some weight actually helps me boost cause im tall and slim

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First episode is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCsR-zxwN1Y
>What is the Ultimate Self-Defense Championship?
A bit over a year ago, former Aikidoka YouTuber Rokas Leo set up a tournament with a self-defense "academy" to have himself and five other martial arts YouTubers compete to see who is best at self-defense. It was a hilarious shitshow that nearly crippled one of the contestants, Ramsey Dewey who would later get into an internet spat with the guy behind the academy (Jeff Phillips) and described the entire event as "piss poor" due to poor management, an incoherent and arbitrary scoring system, running on a very limited schedule, and timing events terribly (like having a zombie apocalypse-themed event that didn't influence score in the middle of the entire thing instead of at the end or something) and doing comically dangerous shit like making people fight on a narrow bridge a good 30ft above the ground.
Somehow, he kickstarted a second one, which features even less martial arts YouTubers.
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>>269316
>Yikes, you chose to stay retarded
but i don't practice or shill aikido.
>You're wrong
you don't train or fight.
>Anon, knowing more submissions
and even "good" aikido sucks at teaching submissions in ways applicable to grapplers. with 90%+ of aikido it's literally a detriment.
>but all the wrist locks grapplers use today were invented by aikido
another blatant lie. there is exactly zero impact aikido made on combat sports. prove me wrong, you won't. not a single move or thing.
>who often cross-trained
the only thing you seem to have cross training in is stealing credit and mental gymnastics.
>And so the fool starts projecting.
prove me wrong, woman. show me you have anything to do with martial arts(not aikido) at all that you deserve to talk about them or give judgment. because you don't, that's why you try to defend this pretentious bullshido.
>I merely acknowledged their heritage in improving grappling as a whole by supplementing judo and jiu-jutsu
and you did this by lying through your teeth and making shit up. good job.
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>>269428
>prove me wrong, woman. show me you have anything to do with martial arts(not aikido)
Not him, but how would you even suggest he do this? You want him to dox himself with a video of throwing a punch or something? Are you saying you wouldn't immediately deflect by complaining that the punch doesn't look practiced enough or something?

To me it reads like you just got extremely asspained that someone said something positive about aikido and immediately started sperging like an internet tough guy from 2009.
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>>210553
Finger-in-butthole as women's defense against rape: if you rape the rapist does it cancel out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LGIShVRrI
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>>269970
>Not him, but how would you even suggest he do this?
posting a belt or gi or other piece of training uniform, preferably with a timestamp. posting a faceless body pic that shows he works out. etc.

>someone said something positive about aikid
yeah, people get mad when you try to shill blatant mall ninja slop as something worthwhile. you'd get laughed off the board if you tried this with something equally retarded like krav maga or systema but fags think they get a pass because it's from japan.
>started sperging like an internet tough guy from 2009.
if you want to shill aikido you need to get a license by being reality checked with a real takedown, kick or a punch from a committed opponent first. that's the absolute least you could do before you deserve to open your mouth.
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>>270700
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XsTpdqLFtoo

Do you guys make notes and diagrams for your martial arts and have reference books?
I have been thinking about getting the Kodokan book since I won't be doing judo for the foreseeable future and also making notes for my karate and judo.
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>>264809
Unbalancing someone isn't a step in the process, it's the end goal
This is why people have so much trouble knocking each other over when its the most piss easy thing to do, they're not focusing their intention

People practice this shit like it's a waltz they actually count it out 123 123 step turn lift step turn lift
That's not real, it's barely a step above chi blasts. I can't even talk to judo people about this because I'm dealing with retards
This guy who is a physican mind you said not to lift weights "that's time you could've spent training"
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>>264814
>I can't even talk to judo people about this because I'm dealing with retards
I've been genuinely wondering if you are low- to mid-functioning autistic because of the way you hamstring yourself with asinine absolutes and don't seem to grasp abstract concepts.
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>>264815
Abstraction is exactly what Im trying to avoid
I'm rejecting judo as a philosophy and a system
"maximum efficiency, minimum effort"
I say "maximum effectiveness, efficiency is irrelevant" if it was effective then it was exactly as efficient as it needed to be

I reject 8 directions
A circle isn't 8 directions, why only 8, why not 16, why not 137? Because 8 is important in Buddhism and the old midget in a dress said so
And then there's the clasifications, Nami, kata, and gyaku jime are the same exact move for example
The direction your thumb is pointing is wholly irrelevant to mechanically choking someone
You could even complete that choke without gripping at all because the wrist bone is what's applying the pressure
There is too much internal focus on what your body is doing and not enough on the external of how is it affecting the other person

How often have you seen people fumbling around because they can't finish these basic ass collar chokes and it's because they're so transfixed about having the precise correct grip, making sure that their 4 fingers are hooking just right, and their thumbs aren't facing the wrong direction, Meanwhile they have no pressure on the arteries
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>>264819
>I say "maximum effectiveness, efficiency is irrelevant" if it was effective then it was exactly as efficient as it needed to be
Nobody who trains seriously in any fighting discipline thinks this. You can easily gas yourself out prematurely with effective techniques executed inefficiently or with excess force.
>A circle isn't 8 directions, why only 8, why not 16, why not 137?
The same reason a typical compass rose is in eight directions: straight, sideways, and diagonal are good enough for a coarse description of the direction in which a human body is moving across the ground. Sometimes a specific direction between the eight is discussed for some niche application just like sometimes north-east-east is useful when giving a more precise heading but usually the eight are specific enough.
>And then there's the clasifications, Nami, kata, and gyaku jime are the same exact move for example
These are similar choke variations but are not the "same exact move," which should be obvious to the guy who needs all 360 degrees of kuzushi defined for him.
>There is too much internal focus on what your body is doing and not enough on the external of how is it affecting the other person
Every submission grappling school I've visited, judo included, explains how chokes work to the students so that they understand what they're trying to accomplish with the techniques they're learning.
>How often have you seen people fumbling around because they can't finish these basic ass collar chokes and it's because they're so transfixed about having the precise correct grip, making sure that their 4 fingers are hooking just right, and their thumbs aren't facing the wrong direction, Meanwhile they have no pressure on the arteries
Basically never, but perhaps that's because I've never coached the special needs class. You teach people the objective and then show them some tools with which they can achieve that objective and they usually figure it out pretty quickly.
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>>261823
I asked >>>/ic//fig/
>If I wanted to learn coarse-but-accurate figure drawing for the purpose of taking judo and other martial arts notes what vocabulary would I use to describe what I'm after and what would be the fastest way to grind that skill?
and was told
>That's quick sketching, you should be thinking of coarse shape and gesture primarily as you won't have more than 15-20 seconds to get a pose on paper.
>https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Sketching-Ron-Husband-Expanded/dp/1138336742
>https://www.amazon.com/Drawn-Life-Classes-Stanchfield-Lectures/dp/1032494816
>those would be your bibles, both available on annas-archive.

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