Why isn't muay thai a big thing outside of ladyboyland if there are so many people who hate grappling and for some reason watch mma?
Because people want to watch guys get slammed and beaten to a pulp on the ground. But they also want it to be "real" so they can't watch pro wrestling. It's all very retarded.
Its boring as hell for oneThey compete every weekend so the goal is they're trying to cruise and win on score cards, not going for KOs, and the first round they aren't even competing. Its a warm up round while the bets come in so both guys just chill until round 2 before they start tryingEveryone that talks about how muay thai is the real deal has never actually watched itIt's point sparringThey market the same way the chineses do, for whatever reason people take the baitChinese guy breaks a brick with Kung fu, super cringe!Thai ladyboy kicks over a dead banana plant, ZOMG THE POWER OF MUAY THAI
>>217236>Everyone that talks about how muay thai is the real deal has never actually watched it>It's point sparringThere's like 1 death in muay thai reported on the internet every year and I guess not all of them are reported on internet cause it's the third world
>>217238well yeah it's 3rd world, deaths could be from anything
>>217230It seems to be popular under ONE Championship.
>>217238vax status?
>>217230the more popular mma gets the more popular muai thai gets and both are on the rise, ONE had a big event in Denver a couple months ago when superlek knocked out haggerty early and it was pretty lively
>>217230Arguably the second most popular striking art behind boxing.>Why isn't muay thai a big thingShut up.
>>217236Just lol at this cope
>>217230Like everything else bro, marketing. If muay thai had UFC / WWE tier marketing and event structure it would mogg everything else.
>>217318>UFC / WWE tier marketingThose are two different tiers of marketing. WWE has A tier marketing, like boxing does. UFC does not.
>>217270>>217301Ironically, despite muay thai unanimously being considered legit, it actually has less representation in MMA at the highest levels than most other striking arts. Sure, everyone knows how to throw a leg kick and has a passing familiarity with a thai clinch, but you rarely see champions with bonafide competitive muay thai credentials.
>>217336because it's just asian kick boxing
Muay Thai is HUGE in Japan, France, the Netherlands, and pretty much the rest of the world. It's only retarded burgerland that doesn't appreciate it because:A) US Full-Contact Karate fighters were getting thrashed by Nak Muays so there was a nasty propaganda campaign against it B) There are no good US Muay Thai fighters. They lack the skills to hang with the big boys in Lumpini and Rajadamnern; the Mecca and Medina of Muay Thai competition. C) The wai kru ceremony before a bout would alienate retarded burgers
>>217346
>>217346unless the economy suddenly becomes 1920s overnight or over the course of a few years being a fighter will never been a profitable thing unless you become ali, tyson, mayweather or mcgregor levels of famous where your name is known by people that dont even follow fighting.The US will never turn out pure career fighters again until the economy gets that good.
>>217336Kickboxing copied Muay Thai after getting their asses kicked by it. Look for all the kickboxing champs, and that's where you see the Muay Thai influence.
>>217230People want to see fights with the least restrictions possible, and MMA is the best we've got in that regard.
>>217308Identify one false statement
>>217353>Kickboxing copied Muay Thai after getting their asses kicked by it.lol no. Three karate guys from Japan went to Thailand and fought three muay thai guys and the karate guys won two of the fights. When they returned to Japan they decided to create their own version of muay thai which became kickboxing.
>>217360and yet, when kickboxers were using the karate's bladed stance, they kept getting their asses kicked until they adopted the Muay Thai stance and popularized low kicks. There is Muay Thai influence, no matter how much you deny it.
>>217383Couple of points:1. I didn't deny muay thai's influence on kickboxing. In fact; I stated clearly that kickboxing was created BECAUSE of muay thai. Influence doesn't get any bigger than that.2. Bladed stance? Are you talking about non-Japanese kickboxing? Specifically American/Canadian kickboxing from the 70s and 80s? Because Japanese kickboxers didn't fight in a "bladed stance." American and Canadian kickboxers did because low kicks were illegal in North American kickboxing and a lot of those kickboxers came from traditional martial arts backgrounds that utilized a bladed stance. North American kickboxing evolved as its own thing. It was basically a combination of boxing and point karate.
>>217383>>217412Bladed stances are also fairly prevalent in MMA even though the threat of the leg kick is there, so it's not so cut & dry.
>>217236Idk Muay Thai makes some people extremely dangerous. Only some tough.
>>217412You can also see how it developed over the years to become more and more like MT. Got some boxing influences too. I don't even know how this debatable if you're old enough to know what early Kickboxing and K1 was. Or just watched the vids
>>217346>there are no good us muay thai fighters>steroids has knocked on the door
>>217346It's huge here in Brazil. Pretty much the number one striking art assuming you aren't already going to a specialized MMA gym, just leagues above boxing and any other kickboxing variety in number of practitioners.
>>217833desu most casual MT gyms here are just kickboxing but MT sells better.
>>217840Kickboxing has become an imitation of MT so it's the same fundamentals. I hear what you're saying though
>>217430Because both guys are in bladed stance more often, they have to defend takedowns. From a bladed stance it's slower to throw kicks
>>217349The only thing the US can churn out are wrestlers>>217230People enjoy a slipped punch into a big takedown into big ground and pound or snapping into a submisison. They don't enjoy footstomping against the cage and positional grappling on the ground.
>>218001Yeah, the Thaijitsu style can work, but you need to be both scary off your back and have good sweeps such that you don't really care about getting taking down, but you need Oliveira-tier BJJ for this gameplan to work
>>217840Most MT gyms are actually cardio classes for women with fake eyelashes and lip filler but we pretend those don't exist
>>217230Americans don’t look to other countries for sports.
>>217230If it isn't MMA no one gives a fuck. Why would we settle for only partial full contact?>Why not Muay Thai big?Fuck muay thai, why not Kudo bigger? All the upsides of MMA + the variables introduced by gear + resets when tap attempts go on too fucking long.
>>218510>If it isn't MMA no one gives a fuck.Boxing
I'm glad it's not more popular to be honest. One is fun to watch but i'd much rather watch RWS, Thai Fight, Petchyindee, Jitmuangnon etc over it. I like the pace, I like the tradition, and becoming more popular would just water it down. Plus there's amateur promotions here that people in my gym fight for so I get to see live amateur fights from time to time.
