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>AHHHHHHHHHHHH
I don't get it. I really well and truly don't understand the rationale.

>Here's this borderline fucked item that wasn't cared for, saw heavy use / misuse, has fungus growing in it or shit affecting the glass
>Buy them up as a reseller for maybe 30-60% of the new price
>Sell at 80% of the new price
>Somebody still buys them?

I mean frankly, I'm not going to pay 70%+ the cost of a new item if the used one has anything but light issues. I thought the concept of depreciation was a thing? Yes, camera lenses generally hold value but for that fraction of a new unit, I'm going to be asking for a logbook a handjob. Not to mention if I'm only saving 25% or whatever, I'd rather buy new and get warranty. Yes, that doesn't apply to things no longer being produced, but Canon for example still sell a variant of everything they've ever made in the last 40 years.

>>4341969
if it doesn't look banged-up, it likely hasn't lived a hard life. you certainly can't make a judgment about its internal condition, but at least it hasn't been handled roughly.
if it looks banged up, then you can't be sure what other hardship it's been through.
what, never looked at used cars/bikes/quads/snowmobiles?

>>4341970
>$800
For an EF 100mm no-USM macro?
lol

Its actually insane how difficult it is to buy used now for cameras. I'm throwing in the towel. It seems more often than not I can get better deals on manufacturer refurbs or sales from Adorama. Most of the prices of cameras I have been tracking literally sell within 20% of retail new for well used items, and are often within under $100 of just buying the equivalent from a manufacturer refurb on sale

>>4342153
>Its actually insane how difficult it is to buy used now for cameras
What are you trying to get?

>>4342127
kraken by china mieville one time while hiding from my ex girlfriend

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>>4342137
woops forgot to post a pic in a pic thread

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>>4342137
Was she that bad?

>>4342139
>(((Pride)))
As usual.

>>4341961
>>4341962
Hi. Thanks for answers.
I probably should have specified comfortable price for me.
The r50 and kit lenses I mentioned in my OP is around 850 Euros.
So I'd like to keep price no more than a 1k Euros and I would like to avoid buying used due to my neuroticism kek.

>As always, it depends on the kind of photography youre doing
As for the type of photography type, as I said I'm complete newfag, I don't know if I can answer that completely honestly
and confidently.

Zooms are just a PIA to carry around. Does anyone just cope and prefer to use prime because of this?

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>>4341964
>neuroticism
Retard. Got it.

>I'm complete newfag, I don't know if I can answer that
Buy whatever you want, because the gearfagging doesn't matter and you need to get a feel for the hobby. The R50 is servicable for this use case so go right ahead. Your biggest hurdle at the start is knowing what the fuck you're doing, not what you own.

Disregard bodies, aquire glass: You can always upgrade your body quite easily, but selling a lens collection and rebuilding your kit is much more difficult and pricier. You are buying into a lens mount (Canon RF/EF w/adapter). The R50 is a great camera that will go far, but you could buy a Canon RP for instance for about the same price that doesn't have lenses and then start buying them seperately. You may never feel the need to change bodies, or you might realise immediately that you need full-frame (if doing a lot of low-light photography for example). Your money, your choice.

Your kit lenses are excellent for general photography. Places you visit, people you fuck, food you eat, etc. The RF-S 18-45 will sit on your camera for most uses. The RF-S 55-210 will come out for things like landscapes, portraits, being a creepy cunt etc. There are a few areas you may want better lenses for like Astrophotography, which wants wide and fast lenses, or Landscapes and Wildlife which want your longest telephotos with decently wide aperture. Macro photogprahy is another area you will want dedicated lenses, but you can also get away with using alternatives like extenion tubes for cheap.

All that gearfagging aside, the best advice so long as money isn't a huge issue, is to buy the whatever you want, start taking photos and you'll work out which areas you need to improve on, or equipement you need to invest in. For a beginner such as yourself, spend the 850 Euros, do 6 months of photography and go from there. Worst case scenario is you sell the entire kit you paid for for like 70% the cost.

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>>4341977
>Retard. Got it.
I really appreciate your answer but there's no need for that comment.

>>4341962
The Sony stuff is a lot more expensive though. A A6400/6600 costs as much body only as a R10 with the Lens Kit.

On that note since I'm going through a similar issue, my choices are:

Pentax KF w/18-55 WR Lens Kit ($520)
Nikon Z50 w/16-50 VR Lens Kit ($720, $620 body only)
Nikon D5600 w/18-140 VR Lens Kit ($790, $575 w/18-55mm Lens and $500 body only)
Nikon Z fc w/16-50mm Lens Kit ($800)
Canon R10 w/18-45mm Lens Kit ($650, $800 with 18-150mm Lens Kit and
Canon R50 w/18-45mm Lens Kit ($460)
Canon Rebel SL3 18-55mm Lens Kit ($400)
Canon Rebel T7 18-55mm Lens Kit ($250)

The R50 seems the most tempting on a cost basis cause $460 is stupid cheap but I know a few people here hate it for its lack of a mechanical shutter curtain. I personally liked the Pentax holding it in hand but it has the worst specs and lens choices. I definitely would like a tele lens at some point for high speed distance shots (cars, planes), but I'm coming from a phone so I'm accepting most of my pics suck.

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>>4340603
Thanks

The frogs were out in force that night

>>4334789
google sucks, is the reason you use it just that it has accounts to prevent double voting? I never vote because I don't have an account or maybe I do but have long since forgotten the password.
I had an idea to make some website where you would get invite codes/cookies by posting in this thread and then you'd be allowed to vote on the current and future challenges. It might not be foolproof if people use VPNs or something but google isn't foolproof either. Is anybody else not voting due to google or is it just me who's the luddite?

>>4341046
Yup that's the only reason. There was a discussion about cheating, so switched to Google forms from Strawpoll a while back.
I had the idea of just setting up a site maybe with some form of voter registration, but due to my job had 0 time to work on it. Now that I have more free time, I could spend some of it working on a site. If you have any suggestions for a private hosting provider, I'd like to hear it.
The voter authentication is by far the hardest part, due to the logistics of giving out the invite codes or voter registration keys, because, unless whoever is maintaining 4chan implements an integration for this, there is no way to make the key distribution verifiable (to reduce the threat of cheating) AND convenient (to have people actually vote)
And yeah, fuck Google, literally the only Google account I use is the one I use for these challenges, which I finally got access to again a minute ago, will post the results of challenge 60 later today

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haven't been able to shoot a lot this month dang. bugs count right?

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Is there a way to view polls for this current challenge?

>>4342111
yes, it's very good. But I probably wouldn't buy it as your first camera unless $2k isn't a lot of money for you

>>4342111
Yeah it takes photos that you can then post instead of shitty gear threads

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>>4342111
It's good for taking pictures of your husband's children.

>>4342021
you have to go back

>>4342022
Back where? To New Jersey?

>>4342026
To the orange site

>>4342043
Orange site has not yielded any results (yet). Will continue to monitor the green site. :)

>>4342021
>Furry
>Namefag
>Redditor
I know where this is but I'm not telling you.

>>4342090
this is 4chan
the majority of the users are single mixed race males who have not lost their virginity or only lost it in their 20s, and over half of them probably follow jordan peterson, joe rogan, and andrew tate

you will never see a healthy attitude towards male/female relations here, or a healthy attitude towards anything really. if you wanna talk nudes here on /p/ you're going to run into someone who tells you photography is a waste of time if it doesn't simultaneously get you sex and money and then larp your ear off. in this case they'll probably call you gay and trans. yes, both.

>>4342091
Interest in posed strangers is actually pretty unusual among people in general. Most people see interest in strangers as rude or creepy.

But in art school, it's a prescribed thing and disagreeing with that might get you temporarily relieved from asking questions.

>>4342092
Are the incels in the room with us right now, anon? They seem to live rent free in your head at least.

>>4342090
>making sure her arms don't look too muscular
When is this an issue?

>>4342092
>they'll probably call you gay and trans. yes, both
>implying gay trans-lesbians don't exist

>>4341731
We argue about gear.
>mirrorless vs slr
>film vs digital
>larger sensor vs smaller sensor
>[brand] vs [brand]
You can have any gear argument you could possibly image. If you want to see photos head over to flickr

>>4342100
>we argue about gear because we're poor and haven't bought any yet, cant afford more film, or sold all our nice stuff 2 months after buying it
ftfy

>>4341731
we can apparently even argue about arguing about gear >>4342103

new guy here. I have taken to snapping photos of bugs on the farm where i work. I'd love to try some macro flower pics too. iPhone doesn't really cut it though.
Is this Olympus Tough TG-4 worth a couple hundred? Beautiful pics fellas thanks

>>4342140
It's mostly good for being drop proof and waterproof. the IQ is pretty close to the nicer android phones (minus AI detail replacement)

>>4340260
i have no suggestion but live with it, sorry. sure it sucks but if it works rn in its state, dont attempt a risky fix which may worsen the problem. Use the camera until said problem becomes a real problem which effects using the camera. I cut a pentax p30 focusing screen down to fit in my dslr recently and its got a little dirt in the split prism circle, im not risking taking it out unless necessary because it took 30 minutes fitting it in place due to my bad craftmanship cutting it. Its not pretty but it works , theres no need to worsen what already works like intended, despite its ugliness. if you had a lot of experience driling i suppose maybe, and if therese no voice saying bad idea go for it ? But i doubt thats the case.

>>4340260
Find the largest torx bit that will fit in the hole, then get the next size up and hammer it in (obviously not with a framing hammer or whatever, the handle of a full size screwdriver will probably work). Then apply some downwards pressure as you're unscrewing it, but also don't go full gronk because too much pressure just adds friction.

>>4340250
Feather it how? This stuff isn't dissolving in alcohol.

the M/A-M switch on my nikon 85mm 1.4G doesn't do anything. the lens autofocuses even when the switch is at position M. it's not my camera body that's causing it.
for sure it's better than the other way around but this isn't normal either.
ideas where I should start looking? the flex behind the switch looks fine.
"you should leave it alone" is also OK

>>4340260
get an Allen key (hex wrench) that fits as tightly as possible in that screw head. mix up a dash of J-B Weld, the steel-reinforced epoxy that comes in two tubes you mix. drop the epoxy in the head then stick the key in there. hold the key in place for 24 hours then twist off. bit of a last-ditch thing to try, hopefully the epoxy is stronger than the thread glue.
yer gonna have to make sure that you don't use too much J-B Weld, because you run the risk of it spilling out of the screw head. then you'll have a bigger problem.

>>4342125
ah got it kek
apparently he's already pissed off just by my photos lmao
couldn't even articulate something more than incoherent ramblings, so yeah, opinion dismissed
keep doing your stuff, man
p.s.: pls do a 8x10" macro of your dog's snout pls

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>>4342126
I'm going to do a picture like this on 8x10 with my studio strobes, but I want it to be perfect, so I will test lighting with a human subject first. I know I can get the dof required, but I want the lighting to look epic as well, and I am a noob at strobes.

1:1 is still macro no matter the format, so technically a headshot of him would be macro if I stayed around 1:1. I may try it eventually!

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>>4342130
did you took this with a soda can LMAO

>>4342131
35mm XX@800 and a little oof. I only posted it to show my idea for the 8x10 shot, silly little contextlet.

>>4341984
The point of stop bath is to prevent overdeveloping by neutralizing the developer quickly, not to protect your fixer. If you want to avoid contaminating your fixer you need to rinse with water, regardless of whether or not you used stop bath. Unless your dev times are very short or you're being unusually precise, stop bath is usually not necessary.

>>4339494
Ya think they do it themselves? Theres obviously a subcontractor that washes the film for all of them.

If one is good, all are good.

>>4339504
nonsense, the process can't be that hard. I could definitely see chang making his 5 year old kid scrub it off with a toilet brush and a bucket of draino in the basement to save a few pennies per roll

>>4324109
the most affordable one

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>>4339567
>>4339504
>>4339494
Speaking of mysterious chang films, what do yall think is up with picrel?

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>>4339494
I buy all my chinese ramjet scrubbed film rerolls from Reflx Lab. I've probably bought from them 4 or 5 times and never had any issues

>>4341899
Correct. Considering most people are using Bayer sensors. The only way to trump that is to use a non-bayer array which exist like on the R50 MkII iirc. Hang on, might be misremembering. There are better sensor layouts available I just can't recall their names.

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Bois, which soft (except ps) I can use to composite 200-300 pics of star trails?

pic unrelated

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I noticed that my camera, D750 which I bought second hand 2-3 years ago started to sometimes throw error message when shooting at short times like 1/1000 or 1/2000. Does it mean that shutter mechanism might starting to give up? How can I actually check how much photos I overall took with camera?

>>4342018
>Does it mean that shutter mechanism might starting to give up?
It means you got Thai'd.

>>4340735
the brilliance of nikon's "i-TTL" balanced fill flash is that you DON'T have to worry about how it works. quote dodd howard, "it just works"
that chinese flash might have an "i-TTL compatible" circuit but it likely doesn't go as good of a job as real a nikon flash would
in that case put the flash in plain old TTL mode where the flash provides key (main) lighting instead of fill, THEN you enter -1.0 stop flash compensation. that's the magic fill flash number (some people like -1.3 stop)

>>4341467
the electronics in early leica slr cams are comicly unreliable

>>4342083
>Doesn't understand simultaneous contrast

>>4342072
One on on the left is a more pleasant image. Sorry nerd.

>>4342085
>I'm also a gallery represented artist
That's like, a really low bar
I could get my work exhibited in at least 3 galleries today, and Im not even that good

Damn film truly is shit. Now I can finally enjoy my digitals in peace

Thanks Art repro fag

>>4342072
>35mm e100 absolutely btfo by a $300 digital camera.

Stop looking at flawed scans!

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my ig is reserved for irl but here's my tumblr picrelated. pictures from me learning street

>>4341547
correction: do all that stuff but also keep snapping away
>>4340659
sweet!

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Little bit of everything.

@mihnea.l.udrea

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instagram.com/604connor/

Id love some advice,
just got into photography at the beginning of the year. Trying to get my editing more consistent

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https://www.instagram.com/ozren.c/

>>4339860
>>4339861
Good stuff, me like.

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www.instagram.com/azamatesm

Like your fav one