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What's the appeal of this photo do you think that made the editor to choose it for promoting an exhibition?
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>cANON is a diesel merc shill
I can imagine him squatting on the hood of a 300SD drinking vodka in his adidas tracksuit
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>>4475795
Honestly if I were a paranoid schizophrenic I'd probably drive an all mechanical diesel too in case there's an EMP or some shit.
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>>4475755
You don't need an external lightmeter all the time if you learn sunny 16., plus I mentioned other issues with the M6 such as the corroding zinc top plate.
It's not a bad camera at all, and yes all of the potential issues can be mitigated and/or ignored, but I think it's still one of the worst value M cameras.
A great condition M4 costs maybe 1500$-1800$, meanwhile an equivalent M6 can be up to and above 3k. That's potentially another grand or more for a light meter.
>>4475768
I think if you're going to spend upwards of 5k on a camera body it should last a lifetime. My problem isn't with digital Leicas failing, it's that they are priced as if they are still these flawlessly engineered mechanical devices which are built to last.
Leica lives on the laurels of its analog years, not on the merit of their current digital cameras.
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>>4475178
I think the picture is quite interesting. How old is that woman? She could be 23 or 53. And why is everyone dressed like it's 1970 when the photo was clearly taken in the present day? When, in normal life, would you ever see a guy in the street carrying a smartphone in one hand and a fucking pen-and-paper notebook in the other hand?

>>4475190
I've seen one other version of this copypasta on /sp/ and I thought the poster had just written it himself. I had no idea it was a meme. I will now have to go and find the original.

t. board tourist; this thread was on the front page of 4chan so I thought I'd check it out
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>>4476246
>I think the picture is quite interesting. How old is that woman? She could be 23 or 53. And why is everyone dressed like it's 1970 when the photo was clearly taken in the present day? When, in normal life, would you ever see a guy in the street carrying a smartphone in one hand and a fucking pen-and-paper notebook in the other hand?
Just because you've never been outside doesn't make this an interesting photo. By your logic every single snapshit that has a random person in it would be deem interesting.
The clothing attire is explained by old people.
The smartphone and notebook is not noteworthy in the slightest.

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>don't switch to a new mount in the digital transition so all your customers can still use their old film lenses
>pride yourself for upholding true photographic tradition and having the finest lenses with the most "character"
>release the first full frame camera that can actually make full use of all those "sweet" 35mm pentax lenses in 2016, literally 10 years after the competition
>in the meantime only make shitty APS-C kit zooms
>Release your only monochrome camera for the true affecionados
>It's APS-C
Why is this company such a joke?
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>>4475742
the cheapest one is $270 used
so its hard to swallow when a comparable canon/nikon 50mm is like half the price lol.

>>4475455
its the sharpness im concerned more about, i expect some aberrations as long as its not horrible. i know the HD lenses compensate for distortion better but still.

and i only bought my k1ii because it was <$1000, I sold my KF for $300, and I didn't wanna have to get a bunch of new lenses + wanted the ultimate in pentaxes. i figured i'd be spending $700 to upgrade to FF and it would sate my GAS without switching entirely to mirrorless sony/nikon ($1500 a7iv or z6iii, personally like the sonys more since they have good minolta/pentax af adapters)

i find the ff sensor a upgrade over apsc only because im using way lower iso (100-400, at most 1600) to shoot pics i'd need at least 2-3x the same iso setting. however its kinda dumb with the auto modes, i really have to shoot sensitivity priority and manually set iso if i want a picture i like, otherwise it'll default to like 3200 iso if its not bright and sunny out.

the AF is still horrible, mid at best compared to literally any mirrorless, probably worse than a canonikon dslr. you can probably find a k-3-iii for <$1200, they're super rare im convinced pentax sold probably <3-5000 worldwide some ridiculous number because you see 5x the amount of k1s go up for sale.

remember ricoh in 2020+ is not interested in selling cameras other than grs, even the gr4 is just a k3mk3 sensor in a compact body.


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>>4476040
i forgot, i still need to microadjust my lenses to the new k1ii, havent had a chance since ive been busy with life. it could increase my keeper rate, i think my biggest complaint is how dumb the automodes can get since a lot of photos i take are spur of the moment + miss rate from lost focus/soft focus. microadjusting could help by compensating for backfocus imo
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pentaxians freaked out fr fr
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>>4476200

Imagine the smell.
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>>4475980
It is, pair that it also has IBIS and a pixel shift mode that can combine the files in-camera and with a better way to avoid artifacts you have a monster both in-studio and with moving pics outside, 36mp is also quite enough IMO for casual landscape purposes if you don't use the shift mode as often.
It's as well built than a Nikon D3/D700 although those cameras feel a bit sturdier but the K1 has swivel panel and a mount light, also special dial that allows for combo dial commands. It's a complex body but you can use it trivially and get decent results.
It just fucks me up that lens calibration has to be done often and there's no fucking lenses, also the AF could be better but for normal uses it's more than enough.
For sports i think the D4S or the 1DXIII are far more compelling.

>>4476002
>what more do you need?
For photo i need cooler primes, i only tried the 77mm 1.8 and it was awesome but i need something faster, i need a better focusing screen because i am a blindfag, i need wide angle primes, the plethora of film lenses are also overpriced like you agreed with, the 180mm 2.8 and the 50mm 1.2 are prohibitive.
Also i am trying to get into video and the less we talk about it the better, honestly i would've bitten the bullet with the lens catalogue if it wasn't for video, i really want to get into it and i want to share the same lenses.
I still want to get that APS-C zoom lens and perhaps convert the 77mm and the 43mm but Voigtlander glass makes them not redundant but still quite the decision.

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So newest NX Studio is out - with the Film Grain effect added. This will come to the Zf with the next firmware update.

What do you think? Picrelated is OOC JPG with Large Grain @ Intensity 3 applied in NX Studio

I love it
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>>4475297
My pockets are empty
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>>4475281

its not pretty grain more like mesh over pic
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>>4475281
How do I do this with my Sony? Is there an equivalent software? Can i use this one?
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>>4475281
Personally, the thing I like about film is how the cameras are. I like that I can just chuck them in a bag, or not even take a bag and just carry them and I don't have to worry about them being super fragile or that they're gunna break. At least thats how it is for me since I use relatively cheap film cameras. I also like how they look. I personally don't really like the way film looks, most stocks I don't like the colours and I don't really like the grain. It sounds weird, but when I shoot film I mainly do it for convenience. The problem with zf for me wasn't that the photos didn't look like film; the photos look great. The issue is that while it looks great, it doesn't feel like a film camera. It feels cheap and fragile. I was so close to buying one but I got the opportunity to hold one before I did so, and now I'm glad I didn't.
>Blog post over.
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>>4476127
yeah, i think it needs some work, the detail loss and the sharpness of the grain are all over the place.
>>4476149
just use any other raw developer. capture one looks almost exact with some grain settings
>>4476187
yeah but there is literally no other digital camera with "analogue" controls thats as rugged as the Zf (i dont trust fujifilm). i just wish they didnt cheap out on the bottom part of the body with the plastics.

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So is everyone using Lightroom or what? I already have Affinity 2 and would like something with a permanent license for library as well.
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>>4475771
wtf do you have infinite space or something? You even keep the missed shots or misfires or test shots of a shoe?
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I use only command line tools.
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>>4475888
Hard drive space is very cheap and I have plenty. 30 mins of video can take up the same space as +10k images.
Deleting just takes more effort than it's worth for me.
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is pixelmator pro on par with affinity photo 2?
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See, I first started out with rawtherapee, because people seemed to dislike darktable, but holy shit is rawtherapee sluggish in comparison. Darktable is a bit overwhelming for me and surely it's getting a bit difficult to get used to it, but I can move a slider and the preview won't be laggy.

Alright, /p/. I got my first nice camera JUST IN TIME for a 2-week vacation where I shot over 14,000 photos in various levels of motion, light, and subject type. Throughout my trip I experimented a lot and really started to internalize the exposure triangle to the point where I'm perfectly comfortable shooting manual without any confusion or issues.

At this point, I feel like I've learned enough that I just need to practice practice practice, but I have almost zero experience with post-processing photos. I have over a decade of casual experience with Adobe programs, so I'm at least familiar with image stuff, but it was mostly UX design and motion graphics. I'm a bit colorblind, so I fear I'll never be able to do any decent color grading, but I'd really like to start dipping my toes into post-processing photos so I can start shooting in super low light, and generally just touching up my favorite shots.

What tips do you have for a beginner here? What software, workflow, techniques, etc. do you use, and what things should you always do, or avoid doing in post?
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>>4476042
Actually I checked your images and none of them is an HDRI. The tiff is 8-bit, an HDRI should be in 32 bits, not sure about the dng but it doesn't look to be 32 bits. Never heard of the program you've used either.

In any case the data is here and the highlights can be recovered, but it's quite noisy (see picrel). When it comes to processing I can't do much other than recovering highlights and removing distracting stuff since I don't know what you were going for.
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>>4476020
>>4476064
the dng is fine, no need for HDR type shit. its a bit too grainy for my liking though, and i was too lazy to put it through the denoiser, so.
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>>4476020
>blue cast
>>4476064
>green cast
>>4476097
>red cast

Do we finally get a neutral picture if we mix those three
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>>4475528
>you don't want HEIF
Why not exactly? I tend to save as JPEG for posting everywhere but then convert to HEIF just for my phone, I can't see any real difference.
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>SQUARE CROP FROM THE TOP ROPE

>>4476171
Don't save your first pass as HEIF because there's no compatibility for it outside of huehue le macintoss. The world runs on JPG.
No harm in converting it to that for your own uses if there's compatilibity but beware the conversion process is making its own assumptions about your image when it does its magic.

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Should industry switch back to film for better skin tones?
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>>4474517
all depends on the style of your video.

The light bar things used by ryan madison seem to be good.
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I noticed this too the other day while looking at some german vhs tape boxes...
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>>4476045
>implying VHS is film
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>>4476055
No, but photos used on cover box of VHS tapes were shot on film.
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>>4474453
I can imagine that "the industry" would rather switch to HDR or render the same film in multiple color gradings.

Like you get a little option if you want the film to look "lifelike", "vibrant" or "retro"

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>Tried rangefinder camera for the first time
>Yashica_Electro_35_GTN.jpg
>Felt absolutely like shit to shoot
>The shutter sound boring
>Felt awkward to hold
Remind me again why people like film rangefinder? Not to mention that my friend bought it used and the quality of the viewfinder itself is quite terrible. so like, why? Do I need to try Leica or something?
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>>4451975
I like using my Olympus XA rangefinder, mainly because it's tiny and I can carry around in a pant pocket for random family photos whenever we go out.
I have no interest in lugging around my SLR when we go to a diner or concert.
>>4467778
There's a weird amount of people that consider the "feel" and "sound" of the shutter and film advance to be a significant factor in how much they like a camera.
IMO the only things that matter are ergonomics, features, and image quality.
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>>4451975
DESU I'd recommend you do try a Leica. Just go to your local Leica store with your credit card and a roll of film. ask them to look at some of the cameras. Eventually ask to look at one of their film bodies. After you chat with the salesperson for a half hour or so, ask them if it would be possible to do a walk around with the camera. You will need collateral, a card that can cover the camera if you lose/steal it, or gear insurance for rentals that would cover it in case of loss.

I regularly walk around with their bodies and it's always an enjoyable experience, just remember that it's polite to buy something every once in a while. I usually pick up the latest issue of the LFI magazine while I'm there.

While I do like their film bodies, I also tried a digital rangefinder that had no screen. It's quite literally the closest you can get to shooting film without having to actually shoot film, although I really enjoyed my experience with the MP. Nothing beats the feel and ritual of shooting film.
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>>4451975

maybe find that epson rangefinder with voigtlander no need develop film
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>>4467572
>IT'S DA JOOS
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>>4467572

the street is full of what
simpsons

Hey guys! I've been shooting a DIY documentary in the observatory mode for over a year now about a local band. Throughout the year, I've shot the band throughout their everyday life and interviewed the members one-on-one in talking head segments. I plan to intercut the "fly-on-the-wall" moments with the talking heads. However, I can't think of any other documentaries that have done this off the top of my head (with the exception of Tiger King). I'd like to watch a few films in this style so I can get a better idea on pacing/editing. Do you guys have any documentary recommendations in the observatory mode with talking-head interviews? Especially if it's a music doc? Thanks!!!
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>>4473964

npr small studio does this all the time

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Glad I held off getting the iM20 because this looks like the TTL flash of my dreams, especially since I like the Uncle Terry look

It's pretty cheap, should I buy it? Inb4 buy an ad
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Anons i'm thinking i'm buying this.
>79usd
>GN20
>2 AA batteries
>USB C. not outdated 5 pin
>Creates sharp jaw line shadow

I think it's much better pick than those godox ones
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At least from now, no one's gonna to look for an used fuji's over priced 400usd EF-X20 meme flash. and fuji's GN is even 15.
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>>4475499
>the boxy shape of FlashQ FM2 compliments the iconic look of rangefinder camera
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You may need a hotshoe riser for those Godox mini flashes. If your lens is too large it will block the flash.
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>>4475988
Only really applicable if you shoot Sony and dont have small primes

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Hello 4chan! I'm creating a horror project in roblox related to SSTV, and I don't know what pictures to add. For the Robot 36 mode, I have already made both regular images and really frightening ones.
Can you help with the selection of images? Memes, Google Maps places, creepy pictures, and just throw pictures of anything you want will do.
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>>4475977
Anything in particular?
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>>4475978
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Throw anything, I will choose the most suitable
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>>4475979
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>do work for me for free
no

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How important is it to study photography through the library? What books do you recommend for beginners? What are the best photo books?
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>>4465913
>>4465917
Yes and OP >>4465912 you are more than welcome to look at non-photo art books, go to a museum, talk to a creative friend. Composition, storytelling, mood, etc. runs through ALL the arts...
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>>4473529
There’s something else that happened too. Sometime around the D2x-D800, DSLR’s got smart enough to make up for a shitty photographer, but then when mirrorless came out it set them back a bit and it took til now to catch up. When I look at what I shot at that time with those old cameras, they are still the best fucking images I’ve ever shot, artistically. …and I didn’t know DICK. I just knew comp, color etc bc I was a graphic designer. But what the fuck my camera was doing, no clue. 15 years of reading and classes and 40k worth of gear & all the lighting shit & a library of photo books later, and my photos… eh, they’re fine, technically quality, but I’ve shot nothing that jumps out, or looks as consistently distinct as those early shots on my fucking D2x & D810 set probably on auto. They all come up in my screen saver and there’s a world of difference stylistically. It should be much more fucking embarrassing than it is.
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>>4475940
>should be much more fucking embarrassing than it is.
Make a thread and upload them. Surely we can go somewhere from there on
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>>4475940
This kinda happened to me and a couple of friends, it just means you reached a technical level of a pro but also the mind of a drone faggot pro cunt who delivers perfectly good product but nothing that he really likes or cares about, the kind of guy who can answer the hows but not the single why.
If you shoot on auto or something you like (aperture or shutter priority) and just go for photos you like but don't know why you will probably find again your inner, real tastes. The trick is to not overthink, just see shit you like and quickly take a pic, if you start wondering how to perfect the settings then you will bust your mind, just check the composition and there's that.
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>>4475940

You are confused about the D2x, which takes a skillled and intellegent photographer to get consistantly successful pictures from it.

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God this photo by Pedro Martinelli makes me feel things you wouldn't believe.

Ah, the open twisted road, cool breeze, bike, sun intensely shinning after a strong rain and thus giving the whole atmosphere a mysterious aura. You can see nothing but the road, you want to drive away from all of the shit, there is only road, all else is black.

>"I licked my finger and stuck it in the air. The wind was coming from the south. From the same direction my life was heading."

-anon on /lit/, post No.24705860

God I love photography so damn much. There is a whole damn novel in this photo.
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>>4473652
>fondling a dead child is fine because the parents made a bad choice
Feds need to check your drives.
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>>4473664
dude it was just a brown child. no one cares about those. there's billions of browns in the world.
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>>4473668
>dude it was just a brownoid
>op pic is of a brownoid
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>>4471657
>autistic dipshits arguing over what's a "real" photo, while not posting a single photo themselves

never change, /p/
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>>4473681
What's the contradiction?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JgaSjzGkJ0
I was kinda surprised to see that he isn't even using any form of stabilization.

Kevlar, Canon RP, EF to RF adapter and a 50mm F1.2 EF lens. That is pretty much it.
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>>4473559
Watched the video. Basically it's street, but you're more likely to get shot, shelled and kidnapped. Also your camera suffers more wear.
Shooting nothing but manual seems like a flex. Cool that he's shooting in war zones so that I have pictures to go with my morning news, but I think most YouTube reviewers give better gear advice than this guy. It's clearly not his forte.
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>>4475759
Q.E.D.: the whole hiding the SD card is a 2010s thing. Most of the places this guy is at have mobile service. A modern body can push photos straight to the cloud via a mobile hotspot as you shoot making this a non-issue.
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>>4473657
>he doesnt know what maid is
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>>4473624
I was in Afghanistan and we had these big Kodak digital back modded blads, a few F3s and a shitload of Nikonos V’s. The Nikonos’s were basically a point & shoot, but 1, that was what we needed instead of dicking around with settings all day like the F3s, and 2, holy hellin damnin ass if those Nik V’s weren’t as close to indestructible as Jesus and his 3 hot sisters ever came. You never hear much about the sisters, but shyyyyet he taught em to suck a mean dick and build a mean camera.
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>>4475939
Your a zogbot

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Rank the Trump Portraits
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>>4474909
>mean word

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kike#Etymology

>The word kike was born on Ellis Island when there were Jewish migrants who were also illiterate (or could not use Latin alphabet letters). When asked to sign the entry-forms with the customary "X", the Jewish immigrants would refuse, because they associated an X with the cross of Christianity. Instead, they drew a circle as the signature on the entry-forms. The Yiddish word for "circle" is kikel (pronounced KY - kel), and for "little circle", kikeleh. Before long the immigration inspectors were calling anyone who signed with an "O" instead of an "X" a kikel or kikeleh or kikee or, finally and succinctly, kike

It's literally a direct reference to their own intolerance, bigotry, and privilege. Even in times of need, they demand of you.
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>>4475438
Reminder that Patton was right about them
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>>4432588
He looks like he wants to sell you insurance.
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>>4470200
I agree. The photographer somehow managed to make this complete retard look like pensive. 1 is the most realistic one because he looks like he just shat himself.
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>>4466547
>maskcuck
NTA, wasn't a maskfag, did get my jabs because not retarded, doesn't make Dahnald any less authoritarian. If you don't see it, I hope you get your educational moment soon. :3

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I get hired to take these photos by bodybuilding competitors, fitness influencers, and personal trainers.

>Sony a7III
>Combination of 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8, and 85mm 1.8 prime lenses.
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>>4475806
>zooms are worse to handle, intimidate clients, and mess with color/contrast rendering in a way that increases editing workload and can even make it difficult to impossible to make the edit look natural because all glass to air surfaces reflect at least some light
Are you a jew or something? Holy neurosis Batman.
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>>4475643
A 50? Muhnigga I got a jerb shooting state politicos, and they handed me a 300mm, not bc I needed the tele, but bc everyone likes how they look flattened the fuck out, and that’s the only reason the uptight old pasty gop pricks would allow you in. On the other hand, maybe your puffed up swol freaks want the building distortion to more accentuate their body dysmorphia and all their gender-affirming gainz.
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>>4475908
He ain’t but, but I’m your fuckin huckleberry you little turd, the fuck you gonna do about it ya spineless internet loser?
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>>4475920
>body dysmorphia and all their gender-affirming gainz

I love pro-obesity chaners.
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>>4475908
All the good photographers are Jews retard. Helmut Newton, Weegee, Richard Avedon, Saul Leiter (one of the few thoughtful and intentional street photographers)…
Ansel adams wasnt, but he owes his career to a jew
https://jweekly.com/2012/06/22/then-and-now-rabbis-son-saw-early-greatness-in-ansel-adams/
Imagine being antisemitic in a jewish hobby

If you’re going to be an antisemite try a nazi hobby like reading, farming or guns


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