>>4382385
Just buy Fujifilm

>>4382385
Just buy cheap kit lenses

>>4382385
My local camera shop has boxes of unloved gear, mostly k-mart tier lenses with various flaws. He's too honest to sell them as AAAAAA+++++ MINT on ebay & will accept any offer. Check your local shop for bins of misfit gear.

>>4382385
They say leica on them

>>4382385

you likely want lense all standard glass elements with some coatings, like single coating purple or green or blue, or multicoating without nanosurface features, zoom has more of this thing than prime

>>4383331
It's intereesting just how much influence a lens has. I had been thinking until now that it does have an impact, but maybe ~15-20% was the lens and the rest was the sensor/film, but maybe it is really more like 40-50% lens, or maybe film is more sensitive to lens characteristics than digital? I'm not sure, but the effect was immediately noticeable and it was on film stocks I was very familiar with.

>>4383334
It's easy to forget/take for granted that our eyes are lenses. Photons flying through the air need to be focused into an image, in a sense this is where the photo is made. It's not a simple matter and there are many ways to make it happen with different effects.

that's wild, I had the exact opposite experience. I shot konica SLRs from age 15-19 and then got an F100 and a 50 1.4 AF-D and never looked back. Loved my F100, that beautiful matrix metering and autofocus helped me get so many more keepers out of a roll of film.

Of course, now I mostly shoot digital - I no longer have the F100 but I do still have all the Konica gear. Sentimental value, as it was my fathers. I miss my F100 though.

>>4383358
I never said the f100 was bad. It's a great. I said I realized the thing I enjoyed was my lenses, which made the f100 useless, not bad.

>>4383329

what is this it, the proof tier prints, negatives or scanned files, good chance is that in history of film they got to point where images were computer rendered from film data

>>4383310
have fun and post results

>>4383115
>There's a local place near me that does all that for 25 dollar PER roll.
Bottle of Rodinal is 10 bucks and will do around 100 rolls of 135 film, for stop bath use vinegar, ilford rapid fix half litre is 12 bucks, you dilute it 1+4 and 1 liter of that solution does 24 rolls (can do more if you test it on cut off leader before) so around 60 rolls.
You can scan it with DSLR if you have one or even with mobile phone to check out, and those you really like make prints of and scan prints with flatbed scanner which will render better results than expansive negative scanner.
As next step you can try make your own prints which is as much fun as taking photos. Try old Meopta enlarger and Foma paper, cheap and more than enough for b&w photos.

Adapt manual vintage lenses to your digital camera. You can thank me later.

>>4383115
Nah do what I do.

>Build your own large format pinhole camera.
>Get a bunch of light sensative photo paper. Used shit from the bay is good enough.
>Paper developer. Vinegar for stop.
>Red led torch.

>>4383310
you won't be disappointed, it's not a real camera but it's super fun to shoot with. I love mine

>>4382673
It destroys any 3D pop the image might have had

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>>4382453
>it's entirely possible to get an entire face in focus
yeah all you need is to take more than 2 seconds to compose the shot
dolls are neat because they don't move while you experiment with focal length, aperture, and camera-subject-background spacing to get it right
the latter is most important imo, if you get that right you don't need to be wide open for a blurry background
>>4382477
"huge" just comes from being modern over-corrected lenses (how successful that correction is for Pentax is debatable, like the 85/1.4)
I just meant why praise them for screw drive when they've been moving away from it for many years now

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>>4382373
>>4382791
really pleasing bokeh and colors
maybe pentax nerds are onto something

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>>4383423
always have been

>>4383423
>colors
yeah that's the chromatic aberration

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>>4379480
Agreed. The standard NR on this camera tends to be a little aggressive.

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>>4379100
The 100-400 really punches above it's weight imo. It's fairly light and packs well. Price is reasonable for what it is.

With that said and at the risk at being a gear fag, the cannon RF system feels like it's missing something to me. I've considered the responses in this thread some more. Maybe it's time I slow the fuck down and leave behind my snapshitting ways.

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>>4379506
Funny birb.

>taking bird pictures isn’t photography
Lmfao, biggest cope of the month

>>4381613
I've considered it a few times hm. Once I'm ready to buy a house I will absolutely be conisdering Melborune and Canberra. Too bad that's probably another 5-10 years off, fuck this country.

>>4381613
if you are serious about photography you wouldnt be in australia to begin with
t. do street in melbourne

>>4381613
Victoria and Queensland on the whole have plenty of good photo spots. I've become pretty tired of city photos lately and have started checking out mountains and national parks in the Yarra Ranges, there's some amazing places out there if you're into nature stuff.

>>4381652
Limiting yourself to street is why you struggle. I've done street in Melbourne and you can get some really good photos if you pick the right place and the right time. Chinatown at night is excellent for street, as is along the river.

>>4381603
>02
Kind of true I guess. I can't actually think of anything else you could photograph there.

>>4383386
photo of nothing
>>4383387
crop the lights and just leave the windows its distracting
>>4383388
crop, the building on the right its not doing any favors
>>4383389
lower angle, harder light would have been better (flash)
>>4383390
Good
>>4383391
photo of nothing
>>4383392
tilted and just not interesting lighting

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>>4383420
>crop the lights and just leave the windows its distracting
not him but I really like it like this
>>4383387
awesome pic, I would use this as an album cover

>>4383386
B&W is 90% shadows and texture, the landscape pic is decent but the only saving grace was the latter.

Try using lower ISO film or a larger format too. The golf ball sized grain is distracting.

>>4383387
How did you meter for that?

>>4383432

The same settings metered for the sun standing outside.
I just use a handheld light meter which I had metered the sun outside before i went into that building, I do not use the on camera meter.

>>4380201
cool

>>4380055
what camera did you use?

>>4380645
Same as
>>4380201

>>4380662
right

>>4371053
>>4371049
niceu

Reshoot, base iso, long ass exposure, saturation to the max

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zoom in

>>4379322
You're a w*man or a troon.

we can use AI to amalgamate mapplethorpe haring and warhol works into a super fag work

ultimate tribute

>>4378579
I am not gay but this shit slaps ngl

>>4378809
Are you that retard that was squatting one of my threads going on about how my photography was "evil"?

>>4383066
>squatting
nigger i gave you the attention that was my mistake. i am sorry for that.

Just got stood up trying to sell my Z50 + 2 Kit Lenses for $700

Fuck this shit I'm just gonna go to Adorama on Thursday I get it why no one sells used cameras anymore big waste of time

>>4383343
Helios.

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>>4380502
Hey gearfags, quick theoretical question: Would you do a week and a half (7 working days) of demanding physical work in a hot and dirty environment for a relatively compact fool frame video focused camera + a 28-70 zoom lens that covers everything you intend to shoot? Would your decision change if in this theoretical scenario you were a hobbyist with ADD who has an "idea" and really wants to make a "project" but will in all likelyhood use the fucking thing for like two months and then put it in a drawer and forget it ever existed. Asking for a friend!

>>4383773
>video
S5 iix, you'll thank yourself. Or if you absolutely must go snoy, get the fx3

is the a7rv that much better over the a7cr? the latter is on sale and I am autismo about megapickles

>>4378322
Never.
(I will never stop using my Lumix LX3)

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>>4378326
Glass doesn't work for the crazy optical designs used in phones. Using plastic to make aspherics is common even in regular camera lenses to keep the size and weight down but mainly size for all the normies who can't stand their phone being over a third of an inch thick. 2030s will likely have a way more exotic technology. Metamaterials, tunable lenses, who knows. Even with a metalens, I'm sure having a bit more room to design with will always allow for a one inch thick point and shoot to do things a super thin smartphone can never do. On the other hand, camera manufacturers usually lagged behind the smartphone market for a lot of advanced features.

Still no 4k60 point and shoot, still no handheld stacking for low light or DR improvements, crappier stabilization, crappier displays, generally worse autofocus, no ultrawide (ZV-1 II sort of an exception although that camera has a lot of the same downsides as a smartphone). And although the smartphone interface fails in the rain as >>4378324 said, you can pretty much use every smartphone in wet conditions whereas weatherproof point and shoots are the exception.

>>4378322
Consumers whose needs were met by point and shoots switched over to phones a long time ago. Point and shoots do telephoto and flash better but that capability isn't worth it for most people.

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>>4379452
>normies who can't stand their phone being over a third of an inch thick

normgroids are insufferable, we need to bring back the good thick camphone desings, the old thick nokias had by far the best phone cameras for many years, the downside was the computational power was very low and uneven to the camera power, a short video could freeze these phones

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>>4379461
The irony is, I'd buy and use a phone that was an extra couple hundred grams and double the thickness if it crammed in a 1" sensor and a telephoto prime like a 100mm equivalent. Would there be a huge market for it? Probably not; it would likely only exist as a flagship phone for Xiaomi or some shit at first and few people would buy it

>>4378322
now

idk

>>4381849
Well the composition doesn't compliment the subject at all, I was trying to figure out the meaning of the square in the middle of frame. Shooting it at a shallow angle flattens the ride and all the lines apart from the horizontal are at weird angles. It's a terrible composition which makes it refreshing.

>>4382328
Just looks like HSV noise to me

>>4380468
Best in the set. The reason is that sky is cut out. Conditions like that warrant it.

>>4382328
Excessive.

>>4382421
It’s pony rides

im tempted to convert my spare pentax k20d body, but i cant decide if i want a full spectrum + filters or just 550nm mod for red foliage pictures and ability to use all my glass with no additional filters needed

>>4382031
I don't mean fake IR with RGB, I mean why don't IR photographers mess with the IR output to be even more creative? There are still rules for the IR genre so it doesn't seem any more creative to me than just arbitrarily deciding my RGB photo will have red trees and a cyan sky, which nobody does because it's not considered acceptable to modify colour that much

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>>4382031 followup.examples

L: both lenses are the typical lens-black. ir sees thru that layer to the material underneath.
R: new money has ir ink barcodes. old cash does not.

false ir cant see/reproduce this aspect.

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>>4382042
>why don't IR photographers mess with the IR output to be even more creative?
i do. often. developing is where the magic happens.
ir benefits from creative ability or you end up with bog.standard looks. also, gear matters.

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>>4380992
your false color IR is kinda meh, the reds in the vis spectrum still show as red instead of yellow and theres no variation on vegatiation and stress levels.

>picrel proper Aerochrome emulation using 4 filters on a FS nikon