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I need some advice on posing people who are awkward in front of the camera.
It's always been my dream to do these kinds of super staged portrait shoots and I've finally built up the confidence to ask some friends to take part in a shoot. However from snapping a few pics of them previously I know that they're kinda awkward in front of the camera and after doing one shoot a while ago I've realized I'm not too confident posing people yet.
Making him wear sunglasses helped a bit, but other than that I didn't really know what to do other than instructing him to just look into the distance and that kind of worked.

Any advice or shared experience is appreciated. I've heard that you're not supposed to micro-manage your subject's poses to make them look natural, but I'm not quite sure how to actually do that.
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>>4496392
Okay, also looking at the pic I choose (some random image from my inspo pile) made me realize that maybe some of this feeling of "awkwardness" is subjective, because I know how they look "naturally" and maybe someone who doesn't know them wouldn't realize they're looking off.
The guy in the pic might or might not be fully comfortable being photographed, but you can't really tell without knowing him
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>>4496392
Models needs a bit a time to relax and to assess that they can trust you. I always try to have at least one hour for a photo session, and I go gradually with the pointers.
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>>4496392
why does he look like he's about to cry then shit his pants kek

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Mostly too wide for me.

If I go wide I feel like there should have to be a good reason to. Dwarfing a figure in a frame is usually bad I've found. Like you barely ever see a painting like that.

Theres too much going on in the frame and pointless stuff, keep clutter away. Just a few patterns, surfaces and shapes is better.

This crop is what I mean but the mast is in wrong place so I'd shift he boat further away from guy. There's like four textures
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>>4496309
cool

>>4496310
shit

>>4496311
shit

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shit

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shit
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>>4496314
cool

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shit

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shit

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saved

>>4496318
nice
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>>4496319
shit. also you have the silhouette of a woman

>>4496320
im conflicted. theres no subject but the lighting is so nice

>>4496321
not a fan

>>4496324
shit

>>4496339
cool


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A professional DP shot this.

Composition is atrocious. The scene is "lit" horridly, making the bad CGI look even more fake. Color-grading is just plain ugly, everything looks plastic.

This triggers my autism more than it should, but I can't be the only one, right?
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>A professional DP shot this.
It's 90% greenscreen. Barely anything was actually "shot"
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>>4495965
>It's 90% greenscreen

Stagecraft is more likely.

Pic related was shot in a studio, before a massive LED wall. By a DP who understands light, composition and color, and it earned him an Oscar nom.
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>>4495957
Anon, those movies are the definition of slop, they know the only people still watching those are kids and retards. No one cares.
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>>4495957
No idea what movie that is, but my rule of thumb is that if a movie looks this obviously shit, especially if it's a big budget one, chances are the people doing the actual work are painfully aware of it, but just weren't given the time/budget to make it to the standard they would have liked to.
People love to complain about bet CGI, but I don't think anyone clocks in in the morning thinking "I'll make some ugly CGI today". More likely it's some poor underpaid overworked artist trying to make the best with what they're given
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shot is fine
it's for kids not everything needs to be two tone, it needs to stay somewhat faithful to the game palette
better than the yellow green trash
lighting is fine both the CGI and the actors are backlit
5/10 bait

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anyone else lost the will or enjoyment to take photos? i dont know how to get it back and even all my fave youtubers are saying similar things. that makes me worry that its over : (
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>>4495559
Don't listen to him and continue honing your craft of analog film photography and printing. The pendulum always swings back. Just watch.

>>4495542
Vit D supplementation can help with SAD.
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>>4495540
>90 hours a week

You need to look at maybe getting a different job mate. Working extremely long hours is not good for your mental health. I know, I've done it. I know that switching is undesirable and stressful. But it would give you a new freedom in life if you did at least shorten your hours.
I switched from working long and lonely hours, to working with a few other people, on shorter hours, for the same money, and it was a far better experience.
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>>4495561

I'm trying but it's just one thing after another. I'm getting a new clutch apparently and that's 5k. I'm breaking even at best and I need to get some money saved up so I can get out of this thing and have a life again. Every time I get a little bit of money something breaks and I'm broke again.

The good news is, at this rate I'll have a new truck by the end of the year. The clutch was one of the last wear items left. All I have left now is the injector six pack and the gearbox itself and the engine internals.

If I did the inframe, six pack, new cylinder head, new oil cooler, EGR cooler and 13 speed upgrade, I would basically have a new truck good for another 1m miles. It will cost me drastically more than that to buy a new truck.

The good news is, now I'm going to have to come home at some point and move my Jaguar now that I got it repaired so that will give me a shot to do some shooting.
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>>4495572
Fascinating! Can I read more about it on your blog? I'm so interested in your car rebuild.
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Yes. Had a year and a half break. Then I got a nice camera and begun taking photos every day again to justify the purchase. Got me back into the rhythm of it. You probably just need a break OP

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>>4496011
You need to take one of your cat licking an m43 camera.
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>>4493951
im obsessed
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>>4495531
>take photo of a protest in the town you live in
>think people protesting about anything on the exact opposite of the world is retarded
>"GUYS THIS GUY IS MALDING ABOUT RUZZIA OMG GO BACK TO /POL/"
Dude fuck off. Sorry to say but this kind of shit happens day-to-day. Sorry that posting a photo made you butthurt.
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>>4495813
what too much anime does to a MF
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>>4495815
Posted the same pic on multiple threads with the same complaints but yeah that's totally your issue :^)

You can take shit photos of whatever you like. I actually deliberately left out my critique of your shit composition because I wanted to emphasise that it wasn't about the photo but your response to it.

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Anyone else here working a regular job/day job as a photographer? I've been working as a real estate photographer for a while and still do side jobs for things like corporate portraits/events, and I'm curious if anyone else on /p/ works in photography too.
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>>4495588
>I've come across so many people whining with absolutely horrible and negative mindsets about life
Not me, I went in as bright eyed as you can imagine and I couldn't wait to get started. To me, it was the dream come true and nothing could sway me from it. Then after about 6 months I was feeling total misery and my personal gear gathered dust in a closet, and my girlfriend really noticed how my camera never appeared on any vacations anymore.

It can be this way for musicians as well. There was a pretty infamous Scottish band in the 80s that recorded a stellar debut album and it was played in record shops to show off the sound quality of products, as it was made with pure and meticulous love. When they got a label deal and a follow up was demanded, all the drive disappeared as they kept getting squeezed for more tracks and more progress. The label gave up on them eventually and when the pressure to make more vanished, they put an album together in just a month from scratch and it was even better received than the debut.

That's something I think about a lot with anything creative. The best results are when people are left to their own devices, while pressure and things having to be a certain way ends with disappointing results for all involved. Popular musicians discographies are plagued with cases like this where it's obvious some albums exist just to meet obligations.
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>>4495684
That's a smart observation. Productivity culture is 150 years old now, and while it works for some things, it utterly fails for a lot more. People don't grasp that economic booms have been built on lies and money stolen from future generations. That made it look like really broken things were working great. Music is a great example. Photography is trickier.
In all cases civilization went from prioritizing morality to prioritizing physical results, so everything non-immediate became twisted and results are more important than humans, who are supposed to benefit from them in the first place!
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>>4495684
Yeah, you can't force creativity and it's good to also know when to quit or at least give it a rest. Not everyone becomes successful, even people who work extremely hard for it, so it's good to know when to quit so you don't kill your passion at the same time.
That being said, I still hear a lot of people (especially here, because let's face it, you're not where you want to be in life if you're here) who do nothing but whine, bitch and talk down to people who have the drive to give it a shot. I'm just saying life isn't so fucking grim and some people do succeed too. So do what you can to make sure it's you when you have the time/means to pursue it.

Creative and documentary aspects of photography are basically polar opposites. You can't force creativity, but you can still have a decent living as a photographer being a "documentary" photographer (weddings, events, gigs, journalism etc.)
Like with music. I don't like playing cover songs, but when I have writer's block or just don't have any creative juices, then I can still find fun in playing some cover tunes. Learn some new styles and stuff. You can always evolve.
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>>4495684
>The best results are when people are left to their own devices, while pressure and things having to be a certain way ends with disappointing results for all involved
Sometimes yeah, but not always. Necessity is the mother of all invention or breeds creativity or however that quote goes. It's very true. Some people stall and get burnt by pressure, while others find a way to meet the deadline or demands in a creative way they simply wouldn't have thought of if they just had to sit in their room for five years.
But it also depends on the individual how you best work, although being a hermit will make it difficult for somebody to actually get paid jobs or any jobs no matter how good you are.
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>>4495739
I'm very glad I gave I tried it, as I'd forever wonder what could've been. It didn't work out but it also means I can move on and find something new, with my love for photography and cinematography being retained. It did take a little time to pick it up again after leaving but I'm feeling good about it all again.

I don't want to put people off making it their job; but just politely warn that it might not be all it's cracked up to be and it's definitely not for everyone. I really don't know where I want to be career-wise now either but I'll just work a day job while I figure it out.

>>4495740
>Some people stall and get burnt by pressure, while others find a way to meet the deadline or demands in a creative way
I think there's confusion about pressure or deadlines being the same as limitations. When dealing with just what tools you have, that can breed a lot more creativity than if you had all the tools in the world. And in those circumstances, I'd still expect everyone under no pressure from someone else would produce better results whether they're limited by their equipment or have everything they'd ever need. Someone above pressing you to get something done by a deadline rarely has the best results and that's something seen constantly with things like cars, tech, movies and videogames where the time crunch leads to issues that could've been avoided with just a little more time.

I think there probably was a time where the balance was just right for pressure and limitations, but the last 20 years or so have just had things like videogames for example being pushed out before they were ready because executives wanted to make returns for stock holders and get things out for the holiday season.

I put it to you that photographs of people walking parallel to a wall in long light (or silhouette) is the most played out trend in street photography. Once you notice it, it is fucking everywhere. And it's not even very good. It doesn't actually require all that much skill. And yet it wins awards all the damn time. It doesn't actually communicate anything, it's just "LMAO look, that person looks like they are interacting with the scenery a bit". What's the fucking point.

Some examples.
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>>4495306
Another option would be still parallel, but to ceilings
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>>4495308
Call silverwitz, rothstein, shekelberg, and noseman. This could get change photography forever.
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It's a bit like the "walking towards the camera while singing" shot in music videos. It's cliché, but it works and looks good.
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Nah, that would be prettyGirl[semi]Naked
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>>4495421
I'm gonna need some examples.

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Closing it out
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>>4495555
Cracking pair of tits.
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>>4495566
One is a bit bigger than the other, but I'm not here to judge
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>>4495653
It's also literally blue

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Why do some people genuinely not see photography as art? It has existed for over 150 years, yet people still see it as nothing more than a reproduction of a subject. We live in an age of images, where our culture is steeped in the ubiquity of photography; the camera is inside everyone's phones, and proliferates on every app. Keep that in mind when you realise that a good photograph is hard to come by; despite an inundation of images, a truly beautiful piece of art, a stunning photograph, is harder to grasp. A photographer only hopes to make about one or two genuinely good photograph in their lifetime.
But even if we narrow our assessment of photography to people who buy the right gear (film cameras, full frame cameras, mirrorless cameras, ecosystems of lenses), we find another issue. How many people in the photography community can even take a masterful photograph? The worst thing I see in hobbyist photography is not necessarily a lack of passion, but a lack of vision. A family snapshot with low technical skill is only interesting to the person who took it. You can find people on Lomography, Instagram, Discord, or Reddit just post photographs that boil down to these elements:
>lack of detail or sharpness
>tonally flat (i.e., no tone splitting, no contrast between highlights and shadows)
>no choice in colour or tones
>no pre-production elements that would convey vision or ideas
>centre-shot
>no forethought about depth of field, especially if someone is just using the same aperture all day like Sunny 16
>noisy or grainy for no reason
>no meaningful use of negative space
>no sense of narrative
>flat with no sense of visual hierarchy (i.e., how your eye is supposed to be guided, from point to point)
>no ambiguity, so the photo is obviously just about a particular theme or subject
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>>4495564
Aesthetic value and its reception by peers and the public is less about technical integrity, craftsmanship, and effort and more about right time/place/audience

Artists of all mediums have gone under appreciated and over valued for literally hundreds if not thousands of years

Basically being a try had bitch isn't going to help you stand out.
Building an audience with work that "good enough" will though.

A Picasso line sketch has outsized value because it's a Picasso. This is an extreme example but it's all on the same scale.
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>>4493129
Ironically Ansel Adams inadvertently started the viewpoint that photography is just reproducing photos, not art.

He played a big role in Group f/64 and promoting "straight photography". Autistic people misinterpreted it -- the goal was to define photography as its own art form, emphasizing purely photographic (and dark room) methods of production, rather than trying to use photography to emulate other visual art forms, particularly in contrast to the pictorialists and their emulation of impressionism. Autists ran off with the ideas of "accurately depicting an object in its details" as the medium of art as *just* depicting an object and its details, forgetting the entire art part.
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Only for the artist the art is important, not for the audience.
In fact, the audience since they are human, they focus on the person behind the art more than the art.
Only well-digestible arts actually get attention what the artist expected, in other words, good enough ones.
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>>4495583
My take on AA is always make photography photography. In AA's time photography had no formal structure as an recording activity i would say.

It's like establishing independent nation of a human expression. Not getting into another nation of human expressions, i.e the arts as a collective definition.

Many people ignorantly think photography became one of the states of the united arts whatever.
And they think buying a DSLR as one of the easiest, affordable tickets to the art theme park and taking and editing pictures art-ish make them an 'artist'.

And i think the misunderstanding is what the photography attracts beginners though. If people knew already that photography hasn't that much artism but almost hermit like autism, they wouldn't dare to step in and stay in taking pics with their smartphones (which is far much better than being a photographic art fag).
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btw photography can be artistic, have artistic sense. Just as any other human activity can have.

I'm a much better photographer than all of you here. This is literally my first editorial lmfaooooo

look at your fucking photographs ahahaha im sure you all studied this shit ahahahaha
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Lol they let anyone pay for their own gallery and publication anon. Having money doesn't make you special and clearly doesn't give you talent either. Your bad even for a nepo baby
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There are better photos heading other threads right now.
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>>4495219
okay retard
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A bitCh bout to throw up outside stationary vehicle ?
fuck man that’s awful. Really.
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>>4495409
She is fucking that horse

Why has the world abandoned photo shoots of good looking women?
99% of anything I see now is selfies and if its a photoshoot its just to sell clothing or some super generic looking agency testshoot.
10 years ago or whatever the world was full of every good looking girl doing multiple photoshoots just for content.
What happened?
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>>4481625
It’s a $15 per hour black hooker

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posting some photos I took last month
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and a big thank you to all the anons who left kudos or critique
much appreciated
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>>4494418
>>4494424
My favourites.

I have one advice to give you : get closer
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>>4494733
hell no, these are close enough
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hard to tell what i'm supposed to be looking at in a lot of these. seems uninspired but inspired to create something, keep experimenting OP. focus on capturing unique moments or talk to people and get a story to go along with these I think it'd hold more meaning to not only the creator but the audience.

example:

>>4494420 who owns the bikes?

>>4494423 what's his favourite record? have him hold it up or something

if you get intimate with the pictures you take, you'll meet people and you can get contacts to maybe shoot more stuff for them? worst thing they say is fuck off and you already got your creeper snapshits so who cares. always gas them up and offer the novelty of "having a professional picture" taken for a portfolio or w/e. dont be afraid to be annoying
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This brings me back to studying photography and living in newcastle, nice anon

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Should i get a Sony zv-e 10 II new or a Lumix S II.

My goal is 4k 30fps with the highest dynamic range possible, 10bit log and fast sensor readout speed (low jellow)
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>>4488812
You need an ND filter if you shoot any kind of log during daylight, even stopped down
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>>4488812
>No need of an ND filter
If you shoot "cienema" you are gonna be shooting with a 180degree shutter. With a base iso of most cameras at 800, 1/48s outside is going to be fucking impossible. Even 100iso will be a stop over at f16.
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>>4481589
>unzips dick
AI porn is so good its unreal. dont even need OF anymore
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>>4481441
Is that the one who's on /b sometimes?!
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>>4489262
the funny thing is she has overpriced pic sets and even those aren't as hot as that ai slop video where she has hands growing out her back, kek.
new generations will be sodomized by technofeudalism but at least we got to see that

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Snagged an old sony broadcast camera.

Having some overheating problems, replaced the DC fan inside, helped cool it a little, but overall still reaching about 30-32c.

Noticed it when hot pixels started showing up a few minutes into shooting.

I assume its a problem with the CCD overheating or something, but is there any less intrusive way to cool the camera down better?
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>>4495208
literally all the caps visible in the pics are harmless but if your camera does have a AC input there's a chance to find spicy caps
>>4495209
how would we know retardos just try every button
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>>4495211
>just try every button
fair fair
>ac input
just has a 4 pin DC IN power port, guessing that would be safer than like an ac120v CRT tv lol maybe I'll just use some rubber gloves and attempt further disassembling
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Took out the chunk of the camera that houses the sensor, noticed that the cardwire that I'm assuming connects to the sensor is connected at an angle, could that contribute to the problem?

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>>4495276
flex cable isn't seated correctly. Could contribute to a weird image.


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