So newest NX Studio is out - with the Film Grain effect added. This will come to the Zf with the next firmware update.What do you think? Picrelated is OOC JPG with Large Grain @ Intensity 3 applied in NX StudioI love it
>>4475281I loved my Zf's and cant wait to get another one. I also shoot with an FA and love the shit out of that like a german shisse fetishist. However I seriosly dislike taking a work that was created in one medium and trying to hide it by making it look like it was made in another medium. If I sold someone a bronze of a sculpture I made but was like, "well actually it's plastic, isn't it amazing though, they got the plastic to look just like bronze!" Everyone would rightly be pissed and I'd be sued & out of a reputation.That said, there are effects we lazily attribute to film such as blurriness of old lenses, poor diffraction halation, light leaks, uncoated lens effects & aging film effects. There is also shooting in fog, gold/blue hour effects, gloomy days, weird light during storms, etc, that could all also be achieved natively by a digital camera with greater or lesser effectiveness, and ideally in proportion to the needs of the image, not the needs of the image to look like it came from another kind of camera. The work of the pictorialists for instance, images like less literally defined and more suggestive, evocative as hell, more like a painting of a mood or hazy memory than a photojournalists need of harsh clarity and grating sharpness. All these effects and more can be accomplished digitally, we have the tools, all the tools, and more tools than anyone could ever have imagined. So why are we led to the photojournalist & documentarians approach to photography? Because it makes us by sharper and sharper lenses? For what? Use the grain effect if you want to. But don't stop there.
>>4476666It's spelled "Scheiße" or "Scheisse", if you lack the Eszett. But why buy two identical bodies? Never understood that
>>4476677>why buy two identical bodies????Oh, bc I said Zf's? Didn't buy them at the same time. Bought one through work, quit, sold it back to company, turned around & bought another, then a while later found out the ZFII wasn't yet coming but a Silver model was, so sold it & am looking fwd to buying that. I hate HATE black gear, and the ZF being black pissed me off from day 1. It was either this or I was going to strip & polish a black one myself eventually, fucking nightmare scenrario that it is.
>>4475319Not one person I've ever sold a picture to cared if it was film or digital...
>>4476534actual pseud detected lmao I own a DF and it feels chintzy as hell expecially compared to dx00 seriesgreat image quality though
I took this photo when i was walking in the streets, after finishing an internship at my university. I think it seems like a liminal space.
>>4482095What is a “liminal space”
>>4482096a space between spaces. a space used to get from one space to another. strictly speaking I think OPs photo qualities. however the meaning of liminal spaces now has been more or less broadened to be a certain style of photography that involves taking slightly unsettling pictures of places normally full of life (strictly defined liminal spaces are often full of life, imagine people passing through a corridor often) that are devoid of any signs of human activity. I like looking at photos with that type of tag as they stir a certain uneasiness and oddly placed nostalgia in me.
Hello /p/, I want to take photos like picrel but have no experience in photography and no camera, I'm willing to spend up to around €1,000 but would rather cheaper as I am not wealthy, anything in the 400-500 range is a nice amount for me. What camera/specs do I need? Any lenses? I know photography terminology as I've experience with 3dcg and they seem to use the same terms there, as well as a bit of experience in just using the pro mode of my phone camera.
>>4474415The Butlerian Jihad will be developed in caffenol, mark my words AI
>>4461548You need a high red camera like the Sony A7CR, paired with a sharp GM lens. If your subject is trees, leaves, or anything green in general, Sony is the natural choice because of their propensity for beautiful green hues in their jpgs.
>>4474264you need to stay in better hotels nona
>>4474338I'm a Nikon Z (luv me fool frame look) and M43 (luv me portability) shooter myself but you need to take your meds, holy shit
>>4474350because autistically focusing on the mechanism and technique allows you to distract yourself from the fact that you're just not that into her
Summer's over, did you get shit done? editionAll video related questions and discussion is intended for this thread. Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.In contrast, consumer camcorders often have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.>STICKY - https://text.is/QZ1J>Helpful guide, additional books and more in-depth FAQs - https://web.archive.org/web/20200926115310/https://pastebin.com/kG0gRmTZ>NO ONE CARES WHAT AN EXPERT YOU THINK YOU ARE. IF YOU’RE ASKING BASIC-AS-SHIT QUESTIONS, YOU CAN’T BE ALL THAT GREAT. SEE ABOVEPrevious thread >>4450377Quick FAQSComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I just watched the latest Marty Supreme trailer. It's good. But fuck if it doesn't feel like an ode to every struggling artist out there running off sheer arrogance and willpower to try and achieve something that feels impossible.
>>4481959Markus is the realest video-related youtuber out there.
>>4482055What took up some time on that shoot was not having a rocksolid definitive lighting plan already designed and locked down. We had a ballpark idea of how we wanted it to look, and wanted to keep a light gameplan that was open to on-the-spot changes and new ideas- but if we had drawn up atleast a fallback lighting design for each and every shot, it would’ve ended up saving a ton of time and energy. Lesson learned. Plan everything- even the stuff you potentially want to have as “spontaneous on the day open collaboration”.
>>4481280Send me a link, I watch it on my 4k monitor on my windows pc.
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>>4481019This. The only people seething about others' success are the same people who are easily replaced with AI.
>>4480864Tripods are mandatory for quality photography.Anyone who tells you otherwise is a retard, or is shooting people in direct sunlight at 1/2000 shutter speed where it doesn't matter.Don't fall for the myth of handheld and image stabilization memes. Nothing beats a tripod.The difficulty is in using them, but whenever you can manage to use one, tripods are always worth it.
Hiya! I’m looking to move beyond my phone camera not necessarily upgrade, but get a dedicated camera for capturing important moments in my life. I don’t want to rely on a tiny phone sensor anymore. Which of these options would you recommend for a beginner? Ideally, the camera and lens should be compact enough to fit into a small sling or banana bag (so I can bring to concerts). Also, I don't to spend as little as possible but don't want to buy used, because the used market in my country is filled to the brim with bad faith actors.a) Fuji XM-5b) Fuji XT-30 IIIC) Canon R50VD) Sony Zve10AFAIK, these are the only "small" modern mirrorless cameras on the market. Your advice would be appreciated.
>>4481008Why is everything so blurry? Is that some artistic effect?
>>4482541Nikon Z30, if you were in US/CAN I'd tell you to keep a eye on their refurb page since they sell for $380 once a month w/16-50 kit lens. Its very compact with the kit lens. Skip the ZVE10, its too delicate and doesn't have enough controls. The sensor is good but the lens a little outdated. The controls make it suck for photographyCanon RF APSC kit lenses all kinda suckGo Fuji if you can afford it. XT30III is my choice. There is something nice about a camera you have to do minimal edits to the jpegs. Newer (2020+) Sonys are pretty good for that actually desu.
What is HDR in files? Can I export any RAWs as HDR in RawTherapee? Or do I need a special camera that captures extra data in the RAW? Do you use this?
>>4481635I don't have one any more as my trusted source Christian Bloch has basically taken down his website a few years ago, but he has written a bookhttps://books.google.com.bd/books?id=bju4BAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=falseUnfortunately most HDRI tutorials on youtube are made by boomers and retards who don't understand what happens under the hood or companies trying to sell their HDR software, so they're not very informative. They completely skip over what HDR is, how it's done and what it brings, they don't even show the 32-bit images and how they can basically retain details in a much wider range of exposures. They don't explain what tone-mapping to either and why it's needed. These are relatively old techniques which were a hot research topic 20-30 years ago, but you can still find new papers on the topic with new algorithms. If you're interested just read up the wikipedia article on tone mapping. In any case nowadays camera sensors have improved a lot in terms of dynamic range, so that HDR isn't needed as often as it was 20 years ago.
>>4481661Sounds like it's not that relevant to the real world then
>>4481671Why?
>>4472971There are a couple parts here1. Absolute white point/max brightness. This should be up to the user. If you want the display brighter, up the brightness. If you want it dimmer lower the brightness. Random websites should not be able to override your brightness setting.2. Tone curve. This should come from the profile embedded in the image. If you don't like the sRGB gamma just supply your own, all the common formats allow embedded profiles.3. Bit depth. More bits improve quality, whether it is noticeable depends on the image. JPEG supports 12-bit, PNG supports 16-bit, this is nothing new.In summary there is no need for some Apple-specific format as all this shit has been around for decades.
>>4481741>Random websites should not be able to override your brightness setting.They don't. HDR has both an "SDR White" and a "Max HDR Brightness", which you can control. Unlike SDR, where the baseline is established at the highest signal level, HDR establishes its baseline lower down the signal curve. HDR is supposed to provide headroom for brighter elements like specular highlights and emissive elements, not simply "brighten" an image wholescale.
How many of you shoot in manual mode and / or live mode? You can't take masterpieces without them. I finally feel like a proper photographer.
>>4481442Average pentax fan
>>4481442>he bought the battery grip and a D FA* lensspared no expense eh chap?
>>4481717>a D FA* lensno, threeI should retake the family photo, have another 120 camera and significantly more lenses for the Bronica now
>>4481725>no 43/1.9anon pls, if your'e going to be a pentax chud that lens is a must have.
>>4481726I mean it's not like I'm collecting lenses for fun, everything I have fits a specific need and I use them all frequentlyI simply have no need for any of the limiteds that isn't covered by what I have already
poverty porn photographers destroyed in one scene
>>4481618>stop is the acidic one but it's just vinegar.Interesting. If I normally just use water for a stop bath would adding vinegar to make a solution be better than straight tap water?
>>4481623One or two % of acetic acid is enough if you do not reuse stop. So 2 parts of 5-10% white vinegar and 8 parts of water. Less water if you save the stop for next time. Few % citric acid also works, and does not stink like vinegar. About 30g / liter or oz per quart or whatever. Molds can grow in dilute citric acid so better not store it...
>>4481645The vinegar stink is what etched the darkroom into my memory from high school, highly recommended
>>4481623Advantage of acidic stop is it stops developing immediately (which matters if using fact acting develoer) and it keeps fixer PH down if you reuse it.
>>4480501based
How do I get into doing wet plate/tin type without selling my home. The intrepid large format cameras seem to be the most budget friendly but I’ve also heard they suck fuck and don’t come with half the shit you need outside of actual chemicals.
>>4475647Silver nitrate solution not silver chloride. You would use silver chloride to make contact prints from your glass wetplates.
>>4475649Yeah the calumet is probably my go to after looking further into it. I’ve been wanting to try it for a while now, my buddy and I are friends with a photographer who got pretty famous doing Polaroids while fright hopping. Kind of trying to capture the folky vibe of it.
>>4475651*freight
>>4475651Just remember that the process requires a mobile darkroom if you plan on going out of a studio to photograph stuff. You can make one pretty easily by using a red glass pane glued on top of a light tight darkroom box that you work in. The sun gets filtered into safelight you can use to work under. Battery powered redlight may also work well, but you'll find that you may be working a single scene for a few hours. There's a lot of trial and error involved in the process.You'll also need a watertight/travel safe dip tank for sensitizing your plates. They're a bit more expensive, but work all around better than the cheaper dip tanks.There is a very steep learning curve to the entire process, so you'll be stuck at home for a while getting a solid grasp on everything. Buy like 100 4x5 plates if you can. One thing to remember that fucked me a first. You MUST have good ventilation in your darkroom. If you don't your plates will fog. Took me many hours to figure that one out.I think the folky vibe + wetplate would work really really well. Wetplate portraits are special, but you need a shitload of light for them.
>>4475641Get a 120 box camera and use opened, flattened and cut-to-size 135 canisters as base.
Please help me improve my color grading. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
>>4481099that's a negative on your last, rafterman
>>4479426this is still the thread goat because you didn't blast skin tones so high and the image still has decent contrast
Call me stupid but, godamn, all your pictures look like legitimate ass. Blown tf out, over saturated, crispy fried meme-esque, horse-fly shit. Get your guys' eyes checked lol
>>4479426This is ass
>>4480816best one ITT
This is my new project, Homemade Piss Christ, inspired by Andres Serrano.
I love Christmas.
>>4481177Kek this one got me
>>4481177Very nice. Hat needs to be smaller though. And may OP eternally burn in hell.
>>4481177Andres Serrano is a devout Catholic though.
>>4481361Rest in piss.
As a relative noob to photography, I'm afraid I may have made an early overcorrection. There's a style I'd like to learn to shoot (picrel), and what I've basically gathered is that in order to preserve the details of shop signs and neon lights in dark environments, you can underexpose your images by 1-2 stops to protect the highlights, and then you pull up the shadows in post.I was amazed by how much detail was hiding in the shadows when I tried it, despite my photos seeming unusably dark in preview. But now I've gotten into the habit of basically underexposing EVERYTHING regardless of light situations, and I can't help but feel like I'm leaning too much on post-processing. Barring stylistic choices and just focusing on getting photos to be as 'correct' as possible, should daytime photos generally look serviceably decent right out of the camera, or is it typical to preserve highlights to the point of being dark? Is there a typical amount of information loss that's tolerated in standard photography, or is the goal to only allow the sun to be pure white?
>>4481186- what i saw in camera with the isoless profile- unadjusted raw- the "result" with a +4ev mask and +5ev in develop tool in camera raw. apply dehancer to cover up/break up the noise with faux film grain.the fact that you can get such results with basically no visible info in the files is crazy...but yeah, i am on the schizo side of this, i took the "film has infinite detail in the highlights, digital in the shadows" bit to the extreme once and this is the result lol
>>4481191also, i dont use any noise reduction, works better that way, no color blotches etc... just cover the digital noise with faux grain
>>4481192A bit of chroma NR would do you wonders. Nothing too heavy to damage colours but just leave luma at nil and it would like more film like.The faux grain is doing a decent job at masking the luma noise but the chroma comes through.
>>4481164Yeah. It's just hard because on film at least with color negative film, they tell you it's better to overexpose, some people even do grossly, than under. Color negative film has a lot of latitude as they say. But then you get people saying on digital to yeah protect your highlights. But if you go too low, you will end up with noisy shadows. I guess the takeaway is this for me:If you care about detail in your highlights (eg sky would be a big one) then expose to protect those. Even if they're overexposed as long as they're not blown out they will be recoverable in post....But if you care about any detail or lower noise in your shadows, expose for that instead and your highlights are going to be a mess. This is where stuff like HDR merges and using graduated ND filters comes into play. Also yeah 25600 is completely usable on the R6II. 6400 isn't a hard and fast rule just something I keep in mind to be aware of if I want to expect a pretty nice image out the other side, and I tend not to use a lot of postprocessing denoise. I could. Maybe I should. But I don't right now. And I like sharp images just as well as blurry film shots.
>>4481186>Casey Matsumotoi thought these were Liam Wong but turns out they worked togther. have you got any of his books? I recognise some of these from After Dark
any fellow third world photography aficionados? how do you deal with the fear of your gear getting stolen? what kind of precautions do you take?
just dont go to bad areasyou cant make pretty photos there anyway
>>4479859Zach's mistake was not getting a tripcode.>>4475750Woah, a cANON post I can fully get behind.
>>4479866I'd rather let people have fun with my name than anything. It separates the real ones from the fake ones.
>>4479866Got a pass instead... Though that may be seen as gay to a lot of people.
>>4473689street criminals are malnourished, underslept, high, and stressed out.
What events/activities/resources do you use to find good subject matter? I don't want to hire models because that's pervy, but I want to take better photos of people. Pic not related
>>4480287ooooh that's a good idea. thanks anon
>cremasterIs that the master cremater?
>>4480026I got a macro lens and it's a lot of fun, there's always shit to take photos of almost anywhere
>>4480326Fun fact, the cremaster muscle is responsible for sucking your balls up into when it gets cold and the like
>>4480026That area had a lot of cute looking bars.
Post books about photography that you have enjoyed. This could mean but is not limited to:>Photo books>Guide books>Repair manuals>Camera history booksI will post what I have, if you want a .pdf of any of these I'm happy to put them up on catbox. I would love to hear what you all have been reading.
>>4480542https://files.catbox.moe/w7jixt.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/zgreyk.pdf
>>4480546Thanks!
>>4479680Feininger's The Complete Photographer and just about any Kodak photobook. They're oriented toward film photography, but many of the principles apply.
>>4479691Do you guys have any other greg girard's work. Like the photobooks of snack sakura or JAL-76 or whatever. Cant find it on anna or anywhere on the clearnet. I might be lacking sources, never checked darkweb.If its not available, i will be pleasantly surprised such nice work has not be leaked.
>>4480709Unfortunately I don't, I've also been looking for them. Unfortunately they're incredibly expensive and hard to find.
