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Decisive Edition

Please post film photos, talk about film photography, film gear like cameras, film stocks, news, and tips/tricks in this thread.

Also talk about darkroom practices, enlargers, photo paper, techniques like dodging/burning, tools, and equipment related to enlarging, developing, and printing.

Thread Question: What is the oldest camera or lens that you shot with? Would you use it on a daily basis?

Previous thread: >>4500379
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>>4507348
What took you so long?
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>>4507349
Oh, I've never baked /fgt/ before.
I just happened to check in on this thread for the first time in a few days and saw everyone complaining about no new thread but not actually just doing it themselves.
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>>4507351
I already shared all my recent film photos in rpt and I'm dling portraits, so I couldn't have done it. Only complain.
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>>4507351
I would have but I encountered the issue described here >>4507331 still don't know how to get the captcha to appear to make a new thread because I'm a brainlet I guess (probably some adblock setting)
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>>4505185
there's no theme behind this image besides "chud" and I don't think that's something worth photographing

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Are rangefinders just point-and-shoot snapshitters with slightly more adjustability? I'm entertaining the idea of a smaller film camera but looking at pics taken by them and what they offer they seem like a glorified p&s. Am I missing something here?
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i've been on rfs as my main manual focus cameras for around two years, and now i'm bad at focusing without an rf patch...

>>4491816
the main benefit of rangefinders for me is compactness. any given rf kit generally is smaller than its slr counterparts. this is one reason they are popular with street photographers. compact is nice when walking around with camera at hand for hours
>>4499473
what makes you say that? if i had a leica, i'd shoot it at a protest
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I cant stop buying shitty ltm rangefinders. Ive spent enough for a great leika+lens combo in cheap soviet and japanese aluminum please help
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>>4503156
I have an M6 I bought after falling in love with my Canon P. It's better, it's without a doubt better, but it might not be as better by as much as you fear.
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I just adjusted the horizontal calibration on my M10, no big deal but I'm basically a certified camera technician now.

Ask me anything
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>>4492086
kino, thoughbeit

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I like having the extra possible color spaces to work with when I want
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>>4504022
maybe? 23mm 10 sec, creepy edit. not sure if its milky.
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>>4504054
So nothing like this?
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>>4493185
This looks queer, have you adopted any children recently?
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>>4493013
It's cool, but like >>4493033 says it's also gay and retarded.
Your image OP is gay and retarded.
False color bullshit is what ruins it.

Full spectrum or IR B&W is where it's at.
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I recently found this pic on a USB stick and the exif said it was from 12 years ago. It had never been processed and was just a red rectangle. I was on top of some mountain because there's a recording studio there. It was late afternoon, in Oct and a deep blue sky. What surprised me about this is if you look to the left of the pole sticking up, you can clearly see the Big Dipper in broad daylight.

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I have never created a piece of art that I like. I never came back to anything I did months later and thought to myself "hey, this is neat".

I can't use my hands to create shit. I can draw geometric shapes. I have nice handwriting. I can play open chords and bar chords on guitar. But that's where my physical skill set ends.

I picked up a camera because my hands are no good. Only to realize that it's probably not my hands, it's my brain. I have little to no visual imagination. I can memorize rules that make photos look more pleasing, but I can not get beyond that in terms of intent with my photos.

Over the last ten years, I resigned to the realization that I can't create anything because I have nothing to say. I have no personality. I have no opinions. I have no stories. Just things I point my camera at.
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>>4502708
What's the meaning of the 758168975417157419835516949614403064135930762886997535767th proton in Sun?
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>>4499207
stop being a baby about ur photos. ur just scared ppl r gonna be mean to u
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>>4495973
There are YT channels with simple tips and tricks
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>>4506365
for example
https://www.youtube.com/@MatteoMazzaNotes

also I'd like to know more channels like this
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>>4495973
do something focused like taking photos of cars or birds or something

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>ACK!!!
this kills the camera snob
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>>4506456
You mean every canon ILC
>cannot POS R
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photography was cooler when it was a guy with a box with a hole in it and a stopwatch and he was like "close enough"
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>>4506467
this, if you embrace the "it's good enough" mentality all of your gas syndrome will fade away.
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>>4506455
>Do you really believe an rx100 or g7x has less noisy pics than a pen f in normal use? Its like that retard that said an rx100 had the same IQ as a canon 7d. Totally stupid.
You really like to argue against facts when the evidence is right in front of your eyes in the form of a graph. Perhaps it's because you don't know how to read the graph, and neither does OP if he's trying to imply the phone is best, because higher is better and so the Pen F is best.
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>>4506466
Every single manufacturer bakes their "RAWs" in some way, as dynamic range become the Holy Grail and all other aspects of image quality were thrown to trash.

Now when AI can make pic rel, retouching as a profession is dead, isn't it? If AI can make a photo from scratch, sure it can remove wrinkles and shit.

What do I do for a living?
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>>4506107
"retouching"?I might be slightly retarded, are you trying to say "editing in post"? The best photos in the world are never straight out of the camera, friend.
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>>4506349
I'm new to editing so I love seeing stuff like this
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>>4506308
that's horrific wtf
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>>4506349
Dishonest photography.
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>>4506353
>nooo you cant make your photo look like it was taken with a better camera!
Foolframers btfo by noise reduction and the saturation slider
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>>4506349
retouching - is when you make portraits more appealing by adjusting skin tone and removing wrinkles, acne, signs of aging, hair, moles, etc

editing in post - everything else like white point, contrast and saturation

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Post photos you have taken overseas… I want to save up to go to Bamberg and Bavaria, but I’m in Australia which is probably the most expensive place to travel into Europe. But I want to get inspired while I save my money. Any European anons who have travelled across Europe for cheap?
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>>4505950
>Travel across Europe for cheap
The easy answer would be to say go to Eastern Europe/Balkans and don't go to big tourist cities (Rome, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin being the worst offenders)

Flights between places are usually inexpensive, hotels are not. This gets worse the more touristy the city. For example my hotel in Stockholm cost 2/3rds what a worse room in Rome would have cost. Despite Italy having a lower cost of living. In Eastern Europe/Balkans this drops even more and typically you can see similar things to what you would in the West. For example Croatia has lots of Roman ruins (much like Italy), Poland has a lot of Hanseatic and Dutch influenced architecture and so on.

I haven't done the maths on it but it genuinely might be cheaper to stay in Bratislava then get the train to Vienna for a day than to stay in Vienna.

Also going to more obscure places probably helps reduce the habit of just taking the same tourist photo as everyone else. But maybe if you're coming from Australia you do fancy seeing the Eiffel tower, Vatican etc rather than the budget version lol.

This is more a /trv/ thread but who cares the board is dead anyway.
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>>4506288
>Bratislava mentioned
Based. When I hit Europoor (soon) I'm gonna hit Latvia and go south through to Poland. Probably skip Belarus for obvious reasons and take a detour into Sweden. Germany/Austria would be nice to see but I get the impression they're full of mussies. Being white in Poland/Lithuania seems mandatory.
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>>4506292
I bet Helsinki -> Tallinn -> Riga -> Gdansk would be a hell of a road trip.

Poland has a surprisingly large number of Asian/Middle Eastern tourists and Uni students if you are around those areas. It's not London tier by any stretch but you'd be surprised.

I haven't been to Germany (Berlin) since 2015 so can't comment on that particularly, I remember it largely being a grimy shithole but Potsdam was nice and clean.

>Austria
Actually I mentioned Vienna because I went last year, I had no issues, I saw local crackheads outside Wien HBF but they were mostly white. In an ironic way the crime/poverty was pretty equally distributed.

Not to be too libtarded but the whole "full of mussies" thing is a bit of a meme, the only two non-white people I interacted with was a Kurdish looking guy who swapped seats with me on the tram and an Asian/Black mixed woman who was getting harassed by a crackhead.

A lot of minority violence imo is hidden in suburbs where visitors simply don't go, so all you see are phone snatchings and pickpockets (also those fucking tourist scam shops on Oxford street).

tl;dr don't let fear of third world migrants stop you going places, there absolutely are issues but it's confined mostly outside of where you would go as a tourist.
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>>4505950
I have a few trips to Paris, Barcelona, and Rome from several years ago
I'll see if I can find the right hard drive and maybe go back through and re-edit them
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>>4506333
>warcelona

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I have noticed that when I feel sad, that completely changes my photography. I then take more photos and I actually care for once.
I know it’s compensation for any romantic or academic failures I experience.
Maybe you will notice that my photos are all centered around one subject, aside from all being b/w. Maybe that shows that when I feel down, I become selfcentered and that reflects onto my pictures. My photos become the vessel for my negative emotions and sadness, hence low-key b-w motive.
Have you ever noticed this with your photography? Share some of your photos that illustrate this.

Also I wanted to share some pictures. One was taken today.
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>>4504822
I truly hate all your other pics but I love smog I always have a hard time capturing it
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>>4504905
Colored filters for B&W
>>4504804
Good stuff OP. Maybe you're more contemplative when you're melancholic, and that makes your photos much more intentional. Would love to see your editing pipeline, any curves?
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>>4504916
Thank you. All the low-key photos were edited by hand. I use the brush and paint the black into the photo.
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>>4504804
My dad died a few years ago. For months I didn't touch my camera. When I did start taking pictures again, everything ended up dark with shadows after I went through them in Lightroom. Since then, I can call up this editing style when I feel the mood is right. It helped be grow as a photographer.
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>>4506219
This one really mirrored my mood at the time.

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What are some resources (books,videos,articles,ect.) that I can check out to learn portrait photography? I really want to properly learn and develop my skills rather than just browsing the hundreds of instagram accounts posting the same photos over and over
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>>4505750
Based

OP you need the develop a way to see the world and then actualize it. Don't do this shit empty headed. If your mind is empty you will create nothing much.
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>>4505795
I do really want to find inspiration, it's just the only place I personally know of is instagram. For the accounts I do find, they either over edit their photos or don't really have much of a style, which makes it hard for me to be inspired. I also want to see the world, I really do, but I live a bit away from a relatively boring city nor do I have the funds to go out and travel. In a way I feel stuck, literally and metaphorically. I know I sound like I'm whining and making excuses, I'm just looking for direct guidance, or someone to show me the paths I can take so I can decide on the one for meant for me.
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>>4505912
>I do really want to find inspiration, it's just the only place I personally know of is instagram. For the accounts I do find, they either over edit their photos or don't really have much of a style, which makes it hard for me to be inspired. I also want to see the world, I really do, but I live a bit away from a relatively boring city nor do I have the funds to go out and travel. In a way I feel stuck, literally and metaphorically. I know I sound like I'm whining and making excuses, I'm just looking for direct guidance, or someone to show me the paths I can take so I can decide on the one for meant for me.
I feel you. I live under the same conditions in the northern part of the planet which means little activity, little light, but a lot of nature which gets boring quickly. Closest city which is rather small does not have any interesting infrastructure either as it was all bombed in the last Jew-war, so only cement buildings from the 50s is what I have to work with. I have adapted to these conditions by focusing on things that are unique instead of copying others. What I do is look for things and structures that are decayed and rotten and plan my shots in terms of lighting and seasonal changes. I have taken a couple of photos I am very proud of. I'd rather take a few bangers than a lot of city snapshits that everybody has seen variations of before.
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>>4505912
>I also want to see the world, I really do, but I live a bit away from a relatively boring city nor do I have the funds to go out and travel.
NO! That's not what I mean by "seeing the world". I am saying that you should develop a vision, a philosophy, see which aesthetic tradition you want to be a part of, what kind of aesthetic universe that you want to create. Traveling won't do shit if your thoughts and vision have no substance.

>I live a bit away from a relatively boring city
This is a total fucking cope. In city you can find people to photographs. For example if you want to practice portraits ask the uni students that you'll give high end photos in the exchange that they model for you. Just hit up people on Instagram. Learn from limitations. I literally live in a 3rd world village and I have taken thousands of photos. Here's what I did: searched for photographers(all of them are from 20th century and from different countries) everywhere which worked in similar landscape to mine and mimicked their shit until I developed my own style. I also took deep dive into local history of my village and surrounding areas so lots of cool and obscure things came up. If not anything you can learn to balance composition literally anywhere so maybe try that.

>it's just the only place I personally know of is instagram.
IG can be a good source for finding cool stuff but it's hidden under a heap of shit, try tumblr and look for old master photographers. Checkout /p/ wiki there are bunch photographer recommendations so check them out.

>I'm just looking for direct guidance, or someone to show me the paths I can take so I can decide on the one for meant for me.
There's no path. You have to develop your own style and say things through photographs.

But tell me what kind of aesthetics you are interested in and I'll give some recommendation based on that.
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>>4505912
>it's just the only place I personally know of is instagram
Pinterest or Lomography or dedicated photo groups on Facezucc. Don't expect perfect pictures but it might help you narrow down what you like/dislike.

>they either over edit their photos or don't really have much of a style
This is most people with a camera. Identify what you dislike and then just don't do that. If you don't know what you like then ruling out what you don't is a good place to start.

>I also want to see the world
What the other guy said but also you will find travel does not lead to much unless it involves things you already have passion for.
My travel photos are mid, generic film photo holiday snapshits (nice for memories but nothing special), but the photos I took of the armoured train I went travelling to see I liked a lot more as worthy photos. The same for my flaktower pictures from Vienna.
tl;dr worry less about going lots of random disconnected places, go find things that actually interest you

If all else fails, I assure you that a set of macro tubes will significantly increase the range of things you can photograph and can help with actually finding things you are interested in when the larger objects mean nothing to you.

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i took many tasteless, try-hard photos as a teenager uninhibited by tactfulness. please feel free to share some of your own old edgy teenaged angst fueled photography.
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piss christ recreation
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New Davinki version includes what looks like a very solid looking photo editor, what do y'all think about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuKgfytA0lg
>https://petapixel.com/2026/04/13/davinci-resolve-21-is-now-a-lightroom-alternative-raw-editing-tethering-masking-and-more/
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>>4504924
How long have you been on 4chan?
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>>4505783
On site since 2006ish, on /p/ since 2009ish
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>>4505783
He’s sony’s biggest fan. Its the guy who ignores that sony colors are weird (pukey greens, blotchy red skin tones, dull everything else) even after editing because he knows that without a reference (ie: seeing it irl) people cant tell if his heavily edited photo is actually of something that was that ugly and says “yeah but you cant tell if i used a sony!”

He’s been here forever because sony always needs defending
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>>4505792
My editing comment has more to do with the state of editing threads in general on the board, I think anyone, regardless of brand should spend some time editing to really make their photos as good as they can be, and it's sad to me that that part of the process has become largely ignored
We used to have editing threads quite often, and they would be quite popular, and we even had more editing focused trips too
Most shooters now don't edit as much as we used to in the past, same is true for making use of more technical approaches at capture
Granted a part of that shift was having to find solutions when working with not great gear, where as all the gear nowadays is generally awesome

I just don't see the virtue in not knowing how to edit
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Tried it yesterday , didn't work with my raw ( LUMIX S5II )

But i have to say, i tried to work with a jpeg of mine, and i was very lost, i used davinci before but i forgot how complex that software was, if you want to go into the real color game.

Overall im pretty sure that in two-three year it will be the best for color ,it would be nice if they can give us a workflow as fluid as other software, the node system isn't that different of using masking in LR , but it's confusing especially with all the tools for colors , you just feel lost

Ones you've actually used.
Give reasons.

1. Panasonic - pleasing JPEG, best QOL - lots of features that work well.
2. Fujifilm - decent but I didn't like the JPEG detail rendering.
3. Olympus / OM system - decent, but I don't didn't like the JPEG colors (tans pushed to red).
4. Sony - lots of features on paper but they're half-baked and riddled with needless incompatibilities.
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>>4500480
You do know you have to be a specialized technician to use those cameras right? It isn't like a Leica DSLR camera where you can just flip through the settings and get a beautiful image.
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>>4497140
its subjective, but here is my ranking:

1. what ever i have handy for the right shot at the right time, be it a cellphone or a potatoe.
That said for me: if i want to do landscapes or fruit and shit, i'll go with canon 5dm2, raw setting plus mid level jpg for ease of use on the computer.
If i want to do urban shoots, building and shadows or even sporting events, there is nothing like my fuji x100. it looks like a leica and does not cause a creep/perv alert if doing public photography of crowds etc, or even pretty women or men in biz attire. My favorite outing with photog groups is hitting the main train stations in nyc or other urban places.


during floyd riots, i was able to use fuji x100 to take shots of mosly peacefull looting and burning of cities. honestly 2020 was comfy, free gov money, and happenings every night.
tldr: 1. what ever i have handy. 2 canon with nice glass, fuji x100.
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>>4497140
• Pentax:
— Cameras Used:
— • K10D
— • K-S2
— • K-5 IIs
— • Optio S4i
— Opinion:
>They’re reliable yet somewhat prone to manufacturing issues, like faulty solenoids and “sudden death motors” in AF lenses. They have simple button layouts and menus. They have sturdy build quality, as well as IBIS, even since 2006’s K10D. They’re compatible with 50 years of K-mount lenses. Autofocus leaves a lot to be desired, especially in the tracking department. A little heavy and bulky compared to mirrorless cameras, especially compared to full-frame MILCs. Fairly good JPEG creative styles with options for customisation, especially in the newer bodies.
— • Would I Buy One Again?
>No, if I buy another camera body, it’ll be a MILC. There are too many practical advantages compared with a DSLR.

• Sony
— Cameras Used:
— • a7II

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>>4499423
I’m still waiting for your Q thread, anon.
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>>4497140
As a literal snapshitter my ranking would be:
1. Snoy - by mere luck i bought a NEX-3 camera for about 50 USD on ebay (seller though the screen was bad but it only suffered from delamination) and got me into the system. I went from NEX-3 to a6000, then to a7 (OG) and now i'm using a ZV-E10. I really hated how slow the a7 was and felt on my hands a lot worse than the a6000. I thought on going back to the a6000 but i found a cheap E10 and i'm pretty happy with it. I found it easy to use and has pretty good image quality. Videos are also excellent. If i even switch again i'm going full retardo over an a7iv but i cant spend that amount of money on cameras at this moment.
2. Canon - the first DSLR camera i used was a Canon T3i/EOS 600D. Not exactly mine (it was a work tool) but it was the camera actually motivated me to buy a digital camera, it blew of the water my GE camera and got me into the RAW world. I used it mainly as a documenting tool (taking pictures for a project) so i never used it for personal stuff but it made a good enough impression on me to get into the tryhard camera world.
3. General Electric - my first non-meme camera was a General Electric X5, a pretty neat bridge camera. My brother uses it from time to time for family photos.
4. Agfa - i own a ePhoto 1280 that i use from time to time, it has the late 90' low res vibe that Charmera can't replicate.
I really don't have anything terribly bad to say about any camera i owned. I'm pretty sure my opinions wuold be the same if i have found a Nikon or Canon or Fuji chance.
Also, >>4497166
>more of a computer than a photo tool.
Maybe that's why i like the sony ecosystem. Pic related

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I think that's about all I wanted to post. Thanks for looking at my shit

New Ken Rockwell just dropped! Time to dial those saturation sliders to 11, baby

https://www.kenrockwell.com/trips/2026-02-route-66/index.htm
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>>4504322
Come to think of it, I haven't seen Eggy post in a pretty long time now.
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>>4504336
It's not a hyperfixation. It's called a creative constraint and it has been a great idea to focus on one incredibly based subject for so long. Try it.

>>4504337
I've been too busy with my doggie daycare and growing senpai... I mean growing farm! Farrowing season was like a month ago.
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>>4504341
Based, I liked seeing your threads around and always hoped I'd be in a pic, but I probably don't dress well enough kek.
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>>4504314
Literally >SAGE in that picture. He also references the anal probe schizo posting from time to time
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>>4499456
man this is some horrible processing


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