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It would be used exlusively for taking pictures of products.
I was thinking of just using my Samsung S23 since I'm kinda poor but then realized that's retarded since presentation is literally everything.
Budget is around $1,000 max, prefer around $700 or lower.
Insights appreciated.
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>>4500761
>>4500773
Ok, please excuse my retardation
>>4500775
>Normies like to see a perfectly white background
I've noticed this too after studying a bunch of other brands and had to change my webdesign entirely because of it. Originally I wanted a kind of night / sky blue cloud themed background but that shit won't fly.
What's the best way to achieve a perfectly white background from your experience ?
The only place I'll be able to shoot is in my garage
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>>4500787
Garage is perfect for a starter studio, you can buy these big rolls of background paper you can even lay it on the ground, have bend up on the wall towards the roll. Make sure it extends under the camera so you can use a clean pair of slippers so you won't leave footprints. Buy a set of comfy dark/black clothes so your presence dont reflect color light back into your subject, it is a nightmare to tone down such color casts and impossible to remove.
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>>4500827
Thanks m8

I think I got just about everything I need
Thanks a lot anons
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>>4500938
Get a tripod as well, a travel tripod will do or a used metal one but avoid the Amazon Basics and generic chinese tripods, they are made out of jello and you will be wondering why all your shots are blurry due to wobbling.
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>>4500262
>>200k is regular mileage
>I have no idea what this means or how to check it
He means that a shutter count of 200,000, i.e. a camera which has had its shutter actuated 200,00 times, is a normal range of actuations for a used camera to have, and not something to worry about.
Usually sellers will list the shutter count in the listing. If they don't, you can ask for it.

any final thoughts on ultra wide angle?
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>>4496645
Sorry boss, my mom usually said 'special'
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>>4496620
I bought that lens for when I got my 40D and now it's on my 7 d. It looks okay Ash outside. I think the ones that I tried to do is showing the nice Vistas when I was out hiking up in Squamish. Too much to take in. My 21 mm on my 6D Mark 2 I love.

>>4496645
There are no hard and fast rules with that. I've taken great interior shots with just a 35 and my 45. It all depends on the subject and the framing
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>>4498717
>>4496620
With UWA you have to be at the spot and everything should look kino, you can't just select something and compose for it because as was said everything is in the shot. I found that UWA makes things look tiny especially big mountains so it was much better for foreground objects composed with whatever is in the background. it makes the scene look meh, even spectacular ones so you better select a flower or a rock or bench, something to put in front of the scenery.
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>>4499303
Cinematography lens meant for wide-angle interiors and exteriors are very different animals than ones meant for film photography or digital slrs.
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>>4496645
i think it depends on the creative direction you are going for.

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Ideally aggressive flash photography.
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>>4501062
meant to finish: 'i'm not sure what iso has to do with anythign'
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>>4501065
it is relevant to aggressive flash hole photography and the camera shown in the first reply to this thread
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>>4498518
I really love this anon, care to explain the process behind it?
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>>4501110
>Use vintage thyristor flash and calculate shit
>push tmax 400 to 800 + r25 filter
>crush the blacks like youre bodycam has yet to arrive
>>4501053
Thx anon
>>4501065
Do you try to keep your distance when using flash? You kinda gotta get up in peoples shit to make it look somewhat decent


Picrel
I was using an IR camera with 3 different filters stacked + a modified flash unit that only outputs infrared light that visible to the human eye.
I use this for extra dark enviorments
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>>4501121
Thanks for the rundown anon, I only have a A11 Flash and one of those Ulanzi RGB lights, hopefully they should be enough.

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Rank the Trump Portraits
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>>4432114
2>4>1>3
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>>4432588
That's his look when he walks into the stein torture dungeon
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>>4432114
3124
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>This thread has been alive for almost 9 months
I didn’t realize /p/ was so slow
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>>4497600
Me

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He got that shit on
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Probably the only camerafag YouTuber that's watchable.
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>>4500943
yikes. imagine watching z tier nobodies on goy tube and pretending to be a photographer hahah
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>>4500944
Who do you watch on youtube?

Mirrorless is cooked edition

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>>4501042
look... this is just bad JPEG processing. Developing the RAW file competently would give DSLR-like results.
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>>4501117
It doesn't unfortunately, they still force the AI smudge bullshit even in the RAW files. You don't get to have true RAW.
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>>4501117
Really? Then share some RAWs or articles comparing them to big boy cameras so we can see the results. Ideally some that aren't shots of mountains at high noon.
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>>4501117
>look... this is just bad JPEG processing
This. No different than shooting with a Sony camera.
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taking photos with a phone is boring as shit
simple as

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can i use a low temp glue gun to mount photos on a photo album? or is that bad? can i use super glue?
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>>4500811
We learned this shit in elementary school. Glue sticks for making ad-hoc books. Since zoomers are taught to use ipads by clueless boomers who think “tech is the future” and never adapt to reality because the old fucks think the new generations duty is to become beings of light that live in cyberspace, well, they can get fucked. I hope they suffer.
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Feel like this thread really took off once OP fucked up
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>>4500864
He should have started off the thread by declaring the best way to glue photographs ever was with either super glue or a low temp glue gun and if you don't use those you're a retard idiot.
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>>4500865
I mean the glue gun worked quite well to be honest. I feared it would heat up the photo and warp it but it actually didn't . It felt really flimsy however, thats why I tried to reinforce it with super clue, but it literally deteriorated the photo once it came in contact with it. (The front side of the photo that is). But I only really applied the superglue to the back, and only a small amount came in contact with the front side of the photo (by accident). I mean it isnt that deep i have the photos saved on my laptop.

But it taught me that this forum is only for the shits and the giggles. Not for actually helping people. Tis a shame really
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>>4500859
fucking retard.

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Hello, /p/. I love traffic lights since I was a kid, and I'm trying to take pictures of traffic lights. I'm still learning the basics of photography, so any feedback is greatly appreciated. I hope one day I can afford a professional camera, but for now they're shot on my shitty phone camera. Thanks.
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I took this new-ish Fortran traffic light when I was visiting my friend. Sorry for the quality, I had to rush before the light turned red, and a cop was directing traffic. I also couldn't upload the raw image due to 4chan's file size limit.
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I found these pair of 3M lights when visiting a nice friend. I don't come down this area as often, so it was quite a surprise to see them. This makes me hopeful that small towns kept their old traffic lights. Watching them get replaced with new LEDs is a stark reminder of my mortality at times.
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some cornball shit from when i was 18
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Kind of related to thread, film shot from Berlin probably 10 years ago,

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Why do some people genuinely not see photography as art? It has existed for over 150 years, yet people still see it as nothing more than a reproduction of a subject. We live in an age of images, where our culture is steeped in the ubiquity of photography; the camera is inside everyone's phones, and proliferates on every app. Keep that in mind when you realise that a good photograph is hard to come by; despite an inundation of images, a truly beautiful piece of art, a stunning photograph, is harder to grasp. A photographer only hopes to make about one or two genuinely good photograph in their lifetime.
But even if we narrow our assessment of photography to people who buy the right gear (film cameras, full frame cameras, mirrorless cameras, ecosystems of lenses), we find another issue. How many people in the photography community can even take a masterful photograph? The worst thing I see in hobbyist photography is not necessarily a lack of passion, but a lack of vision. A family snapshot with low technical skill is only interesting to the person who took it. You can find people on Lomography, Instagram, Discord, or Reddit just post photographs that boil down to these elements:
>lack of detail or sharpness
>tonally flat (i.e., no tone splitting, no contrast between highlights and shadows)
>no choice in colour or tones
>no pre-production elements that would convey vision or ideas
>centre-shot
>no forethought about depth of field, especially if someone is just using the same aperture all day like Sunny 16
>noisy or grainy for no reason
>no meaningful use of negative space
>no sense of narrative
>flat with no sense of visual hierarchy (i.e., how your eye is supposed to be guided, from point to point)
>no ambiguity, so the photo is obviously just about a particular theme or subject
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>>4500399
most people actively dislike the definition of art that includes photography beyond its edgest of edge cases.
>well, abstractly, it is logically the same concept, durr
Under that, Art isnt actually abstract anyways. Its material. Its a marerial input that operates on a material bio-computer. Art is whatever humans allegedly do on purpose so art is a useless concept. Photography kills spirituality in art like this.

Most ansel adams photos are absolute crap btw
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>>4493174
Retards like you are exactly why the "right" will never have any lasting victory, your inability to properly understand and engage with art and find criticism of the art that isn't just Jews le bad sex le bad keeps you from actually studying classical forms, composition, posing, movement, color and so on and taking art for yourselves (That is the point of works like this). Stop recoiling at this because a jew made it, subvert their subversion, make better art. Study them and ruin them from the inside out. Running away burying your head in anti-jew sand does absolutely nothing to help you or art move forward.
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>>4500743
>the right will never have any lasting power because you refuse to appreciate disgusting trash on the basis of its maker studying and subverting subtle traditions!
You are a pseudo-intellectual idiot. “The right” is the dominant political power and fastest growing culture on earth. Your grandchildren are going to be muslim. This isn’t a threat. It’s not a troll post. It’s not a jab. It’s a fact.

The left’s inability to return art to its true form, which is “things made entirely by human hands to be beautiful or preserve culture”, and the lefts preference for art as a pseudo-intellectual circlejerk club based on pretending in-jokes are respectable academia, will coincide with the absolute end of all art. The reactionary movement is reaching synthesis. The dialectic is about to close. Islam is coming, and it promises things for people who are sick of half of TV and every female video game character being borderline pornographic and “art” being flooded with vulgar trash that only appeals to people who have received a pointless education in how to have that trash appeal to them.

Your grandchildren will be muslim. Their art will be industrial design, calligraphy and architecture. Their international friends will be communist chinese. Their art will be regulated by state decency standards. Humanity has abused its toys and is going to take them away from itself. The losing war going on right now is the conclusion of liberalism as a philosophy. There will be no second enlightenment because the record of the first is too thorough. When man treads among the stars he will follow confuscian communism and islam, for in the name of internal logical consistency, for finding “principles” as the true form of god, the west refused to moderate itself and was glad to tell everyone who wanted moderation that they were too stupid to get it.
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>>4500746
I also think its really important for you to realize why this is inevitable. Humans are, no matter what they believe, not trapped spirits who will one day ascend by being maximally good, nor are they looking forward to star trek aliens landing and admiring their cultures intellectual liberty and moral logicality. Humans are just animals, alone in the universe, most of their mind is subconscious and unconscious, and everything they perceive fucks with their dopamine system and affects their life outcome. There is little to no room for free will - even with quantum mystic horseshit there’s only a lite room for free will.

The winning system long term will always be one that is absolutely subservient to rules not based on logical ethics and principles of rights and liberty, but the consequences of human nature and material reality. All the greatest gods and allahs of history are personifications of ruthless nature. There is no afterlife waiting for anyone. These religions spread because they force man to kneel before the fact that he is still an animal and demand that he act advantageously as one. That he respect that he is but a dog.
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>>4493129
Do you like your photos? Do you yourself see your work as art?
>>4493141
Ultimately they're an art you sell the rights to use and not the originals. Like music, which is undeniably an art form.

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>2023
>i should open up one of those mini selfie studios where they just take the pics themselves with a choice of background and props and with a decent camera and lights provided and they don't touch anything they just have a remote shutter, my city doesn't have one yet
>nah it'll never take off in my city and basketball americans will destroy it so often the insurance will start denying claims and id need an llc and a loan and someone to manage it
>2025
>someone opened one
>2026
>it's doing great
just go for whatever your thinking of bros
my friend tells me you don't have to pay back the loan if you open an llc and it goes bankrupt

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Not really a flower but it kinda looks like one.

>>4492474
Now i want to try and take a pic like this... it's so unusual and incredible
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Still pretty new to DSLR but enjoying it and have managed a couple okay shots, here's the flower ones, often with buge
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Why are photography YouTubers so shit? They mostly churn out boring nontent while dressing like a copy of a copy of a copy of someone who thought he might closet cosplay Ansel Adams. Who are they aping?
Almost all have the cadence and tone of a best buy sales associate either slowly conniving a golden HDMI cable sale or postponing their suicide on a Sunday evening only since their parents are still alive; with no in-between.
I meet smarter and more interesting people IRL at camera club or local stores, so it's not as if this hobby is exclusively for people prescribed Klonopin and SSRIs.
Half of them are just talking head slop direct to camera talking about what gear to buy (micro four nerds)
The ones that do teardowns and repairs of gear are usually fine, but those aren't exactly photo videos at that point.

The only guy that does the "video of taking photos" thing I can stand is Nick LoPresti since he doesn't talk like he's constipated, but lately the lack of constipation has become a problem since he's been diarrhea-shitting up my sub box with low-effort commentary videos sitting in front of a green screen. Idk who he's aping there, 2016 twitch? Don't like it, especially one where he and his wife are politisperging about shit like how "they can't use Google search for inane things because it'll track you" for what feels like several minutes.

Snappiness may be my second favorite even though he looks and talks like a queer (he has kids so I guess he isn't technically). At least he does ridiculous things with cameras that are more interesting than "I walked and took a photo of something and had some ennui about it".

Also, I hate gxAce with a passion, dead horse of a gimmick beaten into dust at this point. 80% of his videos serve no purpose to the modal viewer since they're just a rain-dance to the corporate marketing teams to get them to send him gear. (Also combining sloppy wet deep-throat glazing prose with an aloof tone is uniquely excruciating to listen to.)
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>>4500648
I fucking hate those thumbnails where the actual main focus of the photo is the person in the background, but they're fake blurred out, but not enough to not make your eyes go to them first and not the actual item.
Fucking hate it.
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>>4500653
I mean to be honest, if you told photographers back in the day how modern digital cameras work, they'd probably beat the shit out of you for telling them you willingly dumb your tools down to make your work harder. At that time, people were striving to make the barrier between the gear you're using and what you're trying to create.
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>>4500664
show them ai and exain what it is
show them mft quality
show them a 275mp scan of 35mm
they’d return to the past and start stockpiling ektachrome
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>>4500122
erm birds are cool howeverbeit
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>>4500686
Nah, they would absolutely lose their shit if you even just showed them auto focus capabilities. Not even the level we have now, but just in general. They'd laugh their asses off people still use manual focus lenses.
And they'd beat you up for using something like the Fuji x half. The concept alone would make them laugh their asses off. You take the worst of analog and digital tech and combine it.
Nah, if you showed them what even a mid level camera is capable of these days, they'd cry over being stuck in the stone age. They were all striving to achieve what modern cameras can deliver now, they saw how film reacted and looked as flaws back then. It was the same in music production. If you went back to the 60's and told people how music production is now and how you can listen to millions of songs right in your pocket without vinyl, they'd call you insane for buying vinyl instead. It wasn't until after the 80's it dawned on people that analog gear has some "character", but at the time, "character" was an imperfection they wanted to get rid of.

What makes Japan such an desired place for photography? I'm really trying to understand the hype around it. When I visited of course the size of Tokyo itself opens lots of opportunities but I quickly notice that it gets repetitive rather fast. All muh taxis look the same, the buildings have a pattern that repeats a lot. If you've seen a few shrines/temples.. in the end they all look the same. Even if you visit other prefectures you won't see much of a difference. Whenever I see camera vlogs or flickr uploads in Japan I now tend to skip because it's always the same.

My current number one location would probably be Germany. Still safe enough to bring your camera with you, every state has it's own architectural style. Towns are usually a comfy mix between old medieval houses in the center with grim 60s bauhaus constructions that look really odd. Also home of Leica where this sort of everyday compact photography started.

What do you think? What's your prefered location?
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>>4500519
Just checked the metadata since the files actually look more vibrant in the image viewer than in the browser, looks like I saved them as straight RGB, so colours are probably getting nerfed on the web
Need to fix that
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>>4500520
putting my mistake out there, at least it's easy to fix, just batch convert the whole lot
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>>4500515
>How is it to own a sports car in Japan? Need to be rich?
>WRX
>Sports car
>Rich
kek
>And then all the gaijin exporting muh JDMs increasing the cost of purchase too.
Don't forget a vehicle must be at least 25 years old be legally imported into the United States.
>space for parking
Generally you would have a place with parking before even making that purchase. I know a lot of cities have that as requirement and measure out your space especially Tokyo.
>always for the lookout on new locations to take pics but unfortunately no fun is allowed here. Can't do any cool mods (not even Volk/advan wheels). And whenever I drive at night and park somewhere I get harassed by police.
Why the fuck would the police care about taking photos of your car? I guess Germany really is lost.
>>4500517
The "Y-Plate" community is one of indignation and broken dreams but we persist. Also fun fact the Y doesn't stand for Yankee but Yokohama because after the war it was the first working port GIs used during SCAP, and I do believe the area by the red brick warehouses and where I took my photo is one of the spots. Police generally don't harass Y-Plates but you are at a higher risk of getting stopped for DUI checks and I guess maybe vandalism.
Also ABC over .03 is DUI, any BAC above .05 is a felony in nippon, not only that the passengers can get charged too and the provider of the alcohol (I.e bar).
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>>4500523
Testing
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>>4484375
Nips are autistic about little details in everything, that makes their world photogenic

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Who's your favorite photographer? For me it's Alec Soth
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>>4495304
I have an alec photo book, dog days, gorgeous stuff
my favorite photographer is wolfgang tillmans, bruh photographed paper beautifully, can't post images because Uploading files from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse [More Info].
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hahaha gay ass dying website
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>>4500375
What's the deal with Wolfgang Tillmans?
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>>4500375
I get the same any time i try to post from any device or computer but this one, an old ass 2015 ipad, All the others say their ip range is blocked, no idea. … and this thing needs to solve a million stupid puzzles to make a post besides. 13 so far & counting to make this post alone. Man after 20 years here, this site is beyond janky, I dont know how it continues honestly.
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>>4500375
>>4500466
It's over

/p/ is now dead as fuck. It has never been this slow

>ip range is blocked
Go to the feedback section of 4chan and report this issue
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>>4500466
>>4500496
>ip range is blocked
If your area uses CG-NAT (it probably does) then it might not even be your doing. Anyone with an infected botnet client in a 100 household radius around you could have triggered an IP ban.
Or the loser jannie just wants to be a turd. Both possible.

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>>4499817
colors look good, but its too clean imo, dont be afraid of some noise
also i would remove the stones(?) in the middle of the foreground, theyre really distracting
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>>4499919
I really like it.
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>>4499817
Queenstown?
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>>4499817
Crop a little from below, that much close foreground is distracting, at most 10% of width.

Also if you have the ability to visit this location again they try doing star trails, i see some bright stars, that will give some good trails.

Also the sky would most likely become blue, if you take the whole evening or pre dawn. But i wonder if that purple hue that one gets from a setting sun, if it is possible to capture in a star trail shot, given for how short it exists, maybe fking around with the white balance might do it.

Also take a hdr composite, if you feel like adding detail in the hills
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>>4499816
i think the color adds to the intensity nicely'

>>4499919
>>4500017
thanks for the feedback. i'm not sure.. i kind of like a soime distraction in the foreground. maybe i'll dial it back but leave some space and detail there. i don't have any plans to return soon. It i ever head out that way again, i'll be shooting much better vistas and hopefully human subjects.
you can see a tiny bit of star trail already, but that was a 30s exposure. so i'm sure it would be possible to preserve the color on an exposure long enough for dramatic trails. i will not be doing any hdr composites. multiple exposures i can consider, but i hate hdr.
>>4500016
lake isabella in california


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