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How can a portrait represent something about someone other than mere appearance? Can you draw out an internal character or trait from compositional elements?
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>>4523222
Depends. If they've been posed or told to have a certain expression, it doesn't express who they are.
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>>4523222
Everybody has idiosyncrasies, ways to move or do things in a manner that is specific to them.
They can be real tell-tale signs of a personality.
A good example is how people sit.
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>>4523222
How can actors act and be anything other than themselves??
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>>4523335
Demonic possession?
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>>4523222
If you can, read Camera Lucida by Roland Barthes.

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Reply if you're a real mf'er
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>>4527371
Don’t hate the framing on this one, and it’s true that I went to shoot this weird ass floaty thing during the worst possible time of the day, but this expire film still makes me frustrated
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Test portrait
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>>4527373
Underexposed. Make it darker overall and the image will appear less flat.
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>>4527731
Lazy exposure fix
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>>4526827
looks like someone forgot to aerate their bleach
this will be interesting to fix, since I already cut up the negatives to scan
loading a bunch of small sheets onto a reel, like developing mini LF

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as a beginner, should i buy a 55-250mm lens or a 50mm lens? i dont know specifically what i want to shoot yet.
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>>4526717
size/weight is just another irrelevant spec for nophotos to min/max argue about
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>>4526717
Its always a reference to weddingslop ("holy trinity") and sigma art/snoy G master styled primes
>Carry bigger lens that costs 3x more
>photos look AI generated
There's a reason "gearfag" and "pixel peeper" became such cutting perjoratives that micro fool turds users began feeling a false sense of confidence

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1698397/
>sigma 35mm f2 shoots landscapes as well
>sony gaymaster photos look uncanny and harsh
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>>4525248
I'm >>4527247 and the lenses are the 18-55 kit and the 55-250. I have very little experience with DSLRs so take my word for what you will. The 55-250 is pretty nice and sharp. Pictures look nice and bright in good lighting but it's quite lacking in low light. Autofocus is also snappy in photo mode. I haven't tested it in video yet. It's a pretty fun lens overall. I guess you will have to choose between low light performance and telephoto. I will eventually get a 50mm because it goes for like $20 used over but I am in no hurry. Godspeed.
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>>4527252
*over here
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>>4525248
I could never be bothered to actually swap lenses that often and for a hobby, just carrying one zoom lens for whatever you wanna shoot is just so much less hassle
I got a prime 50 for that sweet f1,4 but I dont notice that much of a difference
my only critique, at least with the zoom I have, is the bokeh looks a lot nicer on the prime when shooting something like flowers or anything where background elements are really close, otherwise they look the same

Color doesn't matter.

Today when you can adjust colors just by pressing a button there's nothing more fake than a color.

You should only shot B&W.

Black and White photography is real and pure. Shape, shadow and light - this is what makes your photography look special, not some bright oversaturation. If your picture looks good without colors then your picture is worthy
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>>4524478
Virtually none, it's just more convenient for minilab and faster for tank dev.
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i like shooting cover art for black metal albums
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>>4521955
yeah sole reason why i don't get a monochrome sensor cam.
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>>4502511
Hey, I think I think I remember you from a thread a few years ago. Was this trip somewhere in Switzerland? And you posted a lot of pics from that trip asking for feedback here? I'm pretty sure I remember this picture, I actually tried to give you some feedback on your shots.
Either way, great pic, this one specifically and the rest as well.
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>>4502488
You proved OP's point. That's a good photo because of light, not color

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I'm a poorfag and used exclusively old manual lenses for the longest time because that was all I could afford. Last month I finally bought my first modern AF lens (Sony 85mm f1.8 if you were wondering) and I've been thrilled with the optical quality, it's amazing the step up that happened in the 30 to 40 year gap between it and my previous lenses. I'm finding though that even if I put it in manual mode and manual focusing it just doesn't feel the same to use in terms of joy and I don't know why?

It's like I don't feel as involved in the photographic process when using it, whereas the old lenses it was a lot more visceral - the click of the aperture ring; working in combination with the focusing ring and the camera settings to try and push the old glass to its limits and get the most out of it. The new lens just feels too "perfect" and thus feels boring to work with. A lot of the time I just end up sticking it in auto mode with a feeling of resignation.

Anyone else ever feel like this?

Pic rel taken on a Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm
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>>4527220
>i dont like your photos, so dont use a camera you like
weakest and yet most common critique on /p/
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>>4524398
if it doesn't have an aperture ring i don't touch it. focus by wire is also horrible
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>>4527220
kinda true and real
i recommend paying attention to both the technique and the gear. probably you'll end up settling on gear, ie find the camera systems that suit you, and never have to worry about that anymore. whereas the skill end of things you can work on til death.
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>>4524444
checked
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>>4527220
yeah, he should take more black and white photos of skinny white girls and homeless people

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So this one is about horizon and field?
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>>4521147
ad astra per aspera
you stupid fucking idiot
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Yes.
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>>4524387
kot
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What makes Japan such an desired place for photography? I'm really trying to understand the hype around it. When I visited of course the size of Tokyo itself opens lots of opportunities but I quickly notice that it gets repetitive rather fast. All muh taxis look the same, the buildings have a pattern that repeats a lot. If you've seen a few shrines/temples.. in the end they all look the same. Even if you visit other prefectures you won't see much of a difference. Whenever I see camera vlogs or flickr uploads in Japan I now tend to skip because it's always the same.

My current number one location would probably be Germany. Still safe enough to bring your camera with you, every state has it's own architectural style. Towns are usually a comfy mix between old medieval houses in the center with grim 60s bauhaus constructions that look really odd. Also home of Leica where this sort of everyday compact photography started.

What do you think? What's your prefered location?
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Stop sign, in Kawazu, Japan.
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Little girl grilling mochi? in Yokote, Japan.
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sugoi!
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All my potato

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>it now cost $20 to develop film only with no prints or scans
AHHHHHHHHH
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>>4521800
>color
>darkroom
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>>4468303
If you can do C41, you can do E6.
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I can currently get it done for about $18 a roll. Still a shitload compared to years prior but it's easier than filling my home with more shit and I also get a choice between a Noritsu scanner or Fujifilm Frontier.
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>>4521800
Anon, the only difference between B&W and C-41 is the temperature control and one extra wash. Throw it into paterson like any other film.
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Send it in to Memphis film lab in Cleveland

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What has the consequences been since everyone has access to either a digital camera or a smartphone with up to 200 MP sensors? Snapshits were easy to identify in the 80s because they were often shitty point and shoot, or Polaroids, but what gear does the snapshitter use now other than smartphones? Has the ubiquity of photography destroyed whatever strange, new artform was budding?
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Photography isnt art
Its simply documentation
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>>4526891
A gorillion people on flickr have in fact learned how to do this on digital. It's still hard to do as a 4x5 enlargement. The gear just can't be separated from the photo for the same reason a cool pic taken with an actual camera is more significant than an identical image generated with AI. And doing it as a 4x5 enlargement still won't hit the same ever again, because ansel adams was an environmental activist that joined an art movement, and he was the only one promoting photos like these as much as he was.
>gear
>novelty
>topic
>public relations
>institutional connections
Hopelessness and despair was already there. You just need to open your eyes to it. If anyone here got into photography expecting to be an equal to good painters with just skill, lol sorry. Photography is a social game as much as it is an art.

>Don't underestimate your local art scene and make the highest quality physical prints you can!
A significant segment of young up and coming approved-good photographers are actually doing this, increasingly with 8x10, and it's full of the usual topical shit. Photography is inherently journalistic so it always will be. Pure art is a passing curiosity, like "cool, but if it were painting..."
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>>4526893
The camera is just a tool you can use to create visual media. Photography can 100% be art.

>>4526895
Sad to see you've given up. Hopefully you don't spread your despair to many other people.
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>>4526893
if you have to still make it look cool it's an art, even if it isn't the highest art

if it was just journalism you could take a dogshit tilted blurry photo with the wrong colors and it would still be newsworthy if it was about the thing
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>>4526883
>>4526884
>>4526887
>>4526895
>Photo a 100 years ago was just getting the exposure right and level the camera.
is what digital users say, because it's all they have to do on their device to create a forgettable digital file that will never become an actual object. But 100 years ago you couldn't do that. You had to try a little bit to go from camera to enlarged image. But that's not part of photography according to digital shooters.

>Anyone is just as good as Ansel Adams nowadays.
lmao. ok.

>...if they were to use the same gear and technique
Yeah because everyone knows how to use a large format camera, to develop and to print. It's not skill. Anyone can do it.

>Photo is actually about being rich and knowing people
Yeah as opposed to painting where you become famous by mesmerizing everyone with objective talent. It's only in photography that rich people with connections succeed.

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Will they finally announce tg-8 on 9th? Any leaks?
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https://explore.omsystem.com/us/en/pen-body-silver

Noooooooooooo!
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>>4526864
>$1000 for a phone sensor
>IPX1 (IP53 already effectively means nothing and performs on par with or worse than non-IP rated cameras, IPX1 means it's screwed together somewhat tightly)
*eBay searches for Sony a7c condition:used intensify*
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>>4526864
>>4526880
Both these cameras are irrelevant to the topic. What the fuck are either of you on about.
MFTards and Snoyggers competing against each other is like watching the tranny disability hire and the import Bangladeshi fight over a girl.
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>>4526882
its p relevant. olympus doesn't make new cameras. they re-release old cameras with gimmicky firmware updates so now a six year old sony is a threatening image to m4turdies. asking when they're going to make the new ____ is pointless. they don't make new anything.
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>>4526882
Thry were supposed to announce new cameras and they came out with this PEN shit. Fuck that, I'm buying a Nikon.

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>The Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust has raised concerns over what it describes as the unauthorised use of Ansel Adams’s name and work in an “AI-generated colour version” of his iconic photograph shot in 1942 Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico, which was recently exhibited and offered for sale at a major international photography fair.
>In a statement, the Trust said the work “exploited Ansel’s name, reputation, and his most iconic image, while failing to identify any human artist responsible for its creation. The Trust did not authorise, endorse, consent to, or acquiesce in the ‘AI-generated colour version’ of ‘Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico’ exhibited and offered for sale by Danziger Gallery at The Photography Show presented by AIPAD in April. The Trust was not consulted or notified before the work appeared. Once alerted, we reached out to James Danziger in real time, notifying him of the Trust’s rights, and asking for the work to be removed. Correspondence shared with the Trust shows that, despite our formal notice, Mr. Danziger subsequently leveraged Ansel’s name, ‘Moonrise,’ and the AIPAD presentation while pursuing a proposed commercial AI colourisation venture involving other artists’ estates.”
>James Danziger made a response on the Danziger website to Ansel Adams Trust's condemnation by not only mentioning that the image is technically in the public domain, but also wrote: "As for the print itself, while A.I. served as the starting point, the final image involved extensive human intervention, editing, proofing, and refinement over many months."
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>>4519286
>age-related color sensitivity loss kicking in
just check your scopes bro
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>>4512754
Ruined. I'm a colorfag but colorizing is fake, gay, tasteless and kitsch (the bad type of kitsch). Involving clankers only makes it worse.
"Keep Ted Turner and his goddamn Crayolas away from my movie" is a quote from the 80s attributed to Welles, and it only rings even truer today with everyone having access to technology that's even more destructive, cheaper and quicker.
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>>4512792
Ken knows the value of black and white. There's even some silver gelatin prints of his around.
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>>4525596
what should I be looking for
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>>4513113
reminder that he ises AI (and previosuly PS) to change basically all the skies in his photos. This one is patently fake

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Theme: Food

All photos must be taken during the current challenge month. No old or archived shots.
Get creative and enjoy the process. Unique perspectives are encouraged!

Previous thread:>>4519751
>Go highlight your choice of best pics!
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>>4526309
Was it busy moving when you took the picture? Or did your stomach grumble so much that you were shaking?
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>>4526309
>>4526290
I see the bar is nice and low, as usual. Almost touching the ground there in parts.
Good thing this isn't a limbo competition.
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>>4526309
dawg wtf are you eating??
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>>4526290

Does anyone have any recommendations on where to find good scans of essential photobooks?

the wiki links are all dead
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You can find some in the usual places for books. Though quality will vary, some are good, some have overcompressed jpegs that totally defeat the purpose for a photobook. Don't expect perfect full resolution either way.

Another avenue for reviewing the classic photographers is there's a bunch of videos on youtube of people going page by page through a book.
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>>4521074
Please spoon-feed me sir I'm not so good with computers sir
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check archive.org
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internet archive
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People have mentioned it before. But the "mirror", and books annas/zlibrary stole from internet archive got this really weird compression. Even for files with comparable sizes.
Someone mentioned it happens when you try to de-DRM ia books. But who knows the actual truth.

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>he takes pics landscape
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>>4525363
Oh you're the color accuracy autist. Yuck
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>>4525428
Apparently they either couldn't figure out how to implement it again without it still having some security issue or something, so it's unlikely to ever come back. The whole site was running on an extremely outdated versions for years as I recall and I guess that feature won't work now.

But I do miss being able to see the settings used. We got to have all the gearfagging disappear from /rpt/ but we also lost being able to view settings that achieved certain photos.
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>>4525518
I remember a year or so ago when someone was taking intentionally bad photos of the garbage on their desk with a FF and an MFT. Even in those conditions, the FF photos had better light rendition, more accurate colors, and retained much more texture even with a shallower DOF.
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>>4525222
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>>4525641
But how was the microtonal harvesting?

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Bald edition

ITT people who don’t take photos or own cameras discuss how the camera they might consider buying later is the reason their theoretical future photos look bad

Last containment thread >>4525019
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>>4526533
>>4526577
looks like they're making both black and silver versions.
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>>4526662
kek, cost is basically the only reason to go digital over film
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>>4526666
For me, it's black and silver gelatin)))
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>>4526559
Right still looks kinda blurred, but less so, and colour is better. I think I prefer it but I'd have to see the whole image instead of pixel peeping. I'd be happy with either.
>>4526568
Are we going to pretend that colour correction is bad, actually? Is that where we're at now?
>But anon wouldn't it be better if it didn't need colour correction at all?
Yes but that's not always practical. It's not like it matters that much for digital since you can in fact just correct it. Digital colour is not and never will be real, fundamentally.
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>>4525985
I love this camera.

i wouldnt mind an upgrade of some sort


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