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Welcome!

/trv/ is a slow board, you don't need to bump more than once a day -- it's OK if your thread is not on the front page, we look several pages deep here. You can do that. too, looking for threads on your topic.

Questions are welcomed, as are threads sharing experiences or generally discussing travel. For very general questions, you can get answers faster at other sites. Google is your friend. Start there, then come back here for specific questions. Some good links for basic info, and a few Pet Peeves of the board, are included within this thread.
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For all those wanting information on Vagabonding:

http://www.artoftravel.com/index.html
http://www.vagabondjourney.com/

Don't forget visa requirements:
http://www.visahq.com/citizens/

Happy traveling! P.S. Do not post nsfw content on this board.

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Have eight days and looking to make an itinerary for Spain but could also go to Gibraltar and or Portugal and Lisbon. There are so many places that look amazing.

I'm thinking Barcelona, Madrid, Seville, and Gibraltar. Open for suggestions and how much time to spend in each place. My interests are the uniqueness of an area, food, art, and culture.
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I really like Basque Country. All three of the cities (Bilbao is the best, Vitoria is extremely underrated and Donostia is gorgeous) are wonderful, the food is the best in Spain, the people are genuinely different than the rest of the country and the countryside is perhaps the prettiest in Europe.

There's an anon who HATES Basque Country that barges into any thread that mentions it and shits it up bitching about commie blocks, he couldn't be more wrong.
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>>1361151
You're gonna lose a lot of time commuting from one place to another if you start those 8 days in Barcelona or Madrid.

Start off in Lisbon, then head to Andalucia and visit Cordoba, Seville and Granada. Seville is only a 6h drive away from Lisbon
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>>1363123
8 days in Lisbon or 5 days in lisbon and 3 days in porto?
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>>1362897
you got it backwards pal
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>>1363484
Do they like basque learners?

Old thread is at bump limit. Ask itt; anything to do with thailand such as traveling, scams to avoid, good places to drink at, etc etc. Prostitution and sex toys are illegal in Thailand, so please don't ever ask about those to avoid offending Thai national pride/sensibilities or the King yeah right LOL j/k picrelated is how you'll end up m8s.

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>>1361840
Why do these fuckers all look identical?
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>>1363886
When white people people get old they start to look the same.>>1363830
You can't own the land if you want to own it you need to put it in your Thai wife's name which in turn she turns around sells it and leaves you
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>>1363891
shit, they scammed me on 10k bucks
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Lived in bangkok(on nut) for a year, condo was £500/month, high floor, pool, the works

Was comfy as fuck, hop on the BTS down to phrom pong and go to emporium, have a meal, see a movie, cost about £10-15 altogether
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Just booked a one month trip to Singapore with the intent on spending most of our time in Thailand (the dates to Singapore and the price were just too good to pass up)

We get into Singspore at 7:30am. Any ideas on how to smoothly make our way to Thailand is much appreciated. Not in a hurry. Will have spend a ton of time in the air at that point.

>roughly how many hours a year you spend in air
>how often have you ever experienced bad turbulence

I only fly around 70 hours a year, and in my life I have never really been through more than what feels to be riding on a bumpy road. I am terrified of every hitting bad turbulence.
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How common is extreme turbulence?
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>>1363171
For some reason the really short flight from Milwaukee to Minneapolis tends to have really bad turbulence. Once it was so bad i was convinced i was going to die. The plane just dropped for a good second or two like it had completely turned off. Then we started hitting big bumps that would just throw you around like a ragdoll if you didnt have your seatbelt on. Some guy didnt have his on and he his head went right into the ceiling really bad. Some of the bumps would throw one side of the plane up in the air like you were then sitting sideways for a brief moment.

I was gripping the armrests with complete white knuckles wishing i could call my family. I fly 10+ trips a year and im not a pussy about turbulence normally, but this was an experience i wouldnt repeat.
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>>1363260
It is almost impossible for a modern airliner to crash or even suffer damage because of turbulence. They would either have be neglected far beyond the scope of current regulations in terms of maintenance or experience conditions far exceeding anything observed in the recorded history of flight.

Its just miserable and occasionally dangerous for flight crews or passengers who may be caught off guard. Your plane is much more likely to crash escaping turbulence, like that AirFrance jet years back, than it is to crash from turbulence itself. I would almost call it impossible.
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>>1363959
Was that the one that crashed coming back from Brazil in 2009?
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>>1363178
So you fly almost every week?
wtf

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Come to discuss your trip plans, transportation, and girls. Stay to complain about infrastructure problems. Just please don't turn this into another debate about sex tourism, thanks.
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Can we now talk about how Shangri La shot themselves on their foot right now?

Also ,don't book at this hotel, anons. Fucking cat killers
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>>1363907
I didn't say not to talk about sex tourism though. I just didn't want it to turn into another preachy debate about it with everyone calling each other losers. It's not a big deal as long as it doesn't shit up the whole thread like what happened with the last one. I think most people here are mature enough to know where that line is but there always has to be one dickhead that fucks it up.
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>>1363909
Shangri La is still a pretty comfy hotel. Another hotel I can suggest would be Holiday Inn Makati or Fairmont.
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>>1356730
On my way to Britannia Islands our van got stopped by two communist rebels. Thought they were soldiers but then I look at their feet and they are wearing flip flops. Luckily Duterte was negotiating with them and they were in the process of surrendering so they just asked for food. That was about a year ago now i hear the peace talks broke down.
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>>1363909
>shot themselves on their foot
Is this on the news? Wtf happened

I recommend makati diamond residences. Pretty comfy hotel

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As always, feel free to ask about:
>Traveling to Japan
>Living in Japan
>Teaching in Japan
>Joining the Yakuza
>Getting your weeb fantasies crushed

*Info on prostitution*
Please try to refrain from asking questions about prostitution.
Japan's sex industry is almost completely inaccessible to foreigners who do not speak Japanese. What is available can generally be found in the following links
>http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-tokyo/
>http://erolin.net/
>http://rockitrisingsun.com/
>http://hentaitokyo.com/
Note that most of these companies are owned by the same group so behave.

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>>1364005
>>1364034
I'll be honest with you two. If it's your first trip to Japan, Tokyo can be awesome. However, Tokyo really isn't Japan. It's Tokyo. I can't suggest enough to travel elsewhere. Kyoto is similar in that it's a heavy tourist area, but the sites are worth it. I'd even suggest going more west and hitting up Hiroshima and Fukuoka. See if you can nab a rail pass to make multiple visits a reality.

So yea, you can do Tokyo for a week, but I wouldn't suggest it. Do maybe 3 days (4 max) and use the rest of your time to see other locations.
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>>1364005
It's more like 2.5 hours on the second fastest bullet train which is valid with the JR pass. Lots of good spots for daytrips/overnight stays within reach of Tokyo if you're not heading west either way. Hakone for hot springs and mt fuji, kamakura or nikko for temple sites.
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>>1364061
Tokyo is Japan, theres just some activities you can't do in Tokyo proper. But you can also spend a year in Tokyo and not do everything worth doing in Tokyo
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>>1364061
Tokyo is a city just like any other city in japan.

If you want out of the city but not so far from tokyo just go to Nagoya. It's like 2500 yen for a bus and gets you out and about. The subway is small but limited and you can really get into the country almost instantly


Honestly tokyo is fine just don't plan over 10 days there, 5-6 imo is optimal. Seriously you will burn out in tokyo after that time unless you are there for a reason that isn't visiting.
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Does anyone know how is the demand for computer scientists there in Japan?

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Traveling to Japan in two weeks for business (and some leisure) and wanted to ask any seasoned Japan travelers about manners in Japan.

Are there any mannerisms that are acceptable in the West that are considered rude in Japan? Are there any behaviors "normal" in the West that I should avoid in Japanese culture? Any advice would be appreciated.
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>>1363549
No it's not already there?
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>>1363200
That's a metro line though, I thought we were discussing actual trains.
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>>1363680
Metro Lines convert into trains after the last stop.

Just as noisy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvXN3z9GMO0
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>>1363834
Oh okay, that's a weird system. Haven't seen it anywhere in Europe
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>>1363975
never been to europe and never been to a metro. Am I missing anything?

Where in Africa can you find the best-conserved sites of these pre-colonial kingdoms and empires? Have you visited any?
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>>1363932
Yes, really. I never mentioned technology; I said they were found to be civilized. Advanced economies and political structures; common social and ethical conventions; political systems; legal systems; currencies; bureaucracies...

>>1363931
From a social darwinist perspective this post is hilarious. Now that I think about it, from a social darwinist perspective, racism is hilarious.
>But for whatever reason extreme violence, disregard for human life,superstition and cults were always a very strong part of their existence
As they were for the "advanced" civilization of the Romans. So what?


>>1363759
See what you have done
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>>1363853
>writing a full pseudo-intellectual paragraph with zero coherence or arguments: the post
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>>1363935
>See what you have done
You baited /pol/ autists yourself when you described african culture as "vibrant". Perhaps the only words which sounds more leftist than that are "diverse" and "problematic".
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>>1363935
>As they were for the "advanced" civilization of the Romans. So what?
Africa in the 16th century being as civilized as the Roman Empire during its warmongering period 15 or so centuries earlier doesn't really paint a positive portrait of Africa.
>Look how good Africa looked compared to Neanderthals!
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>>1363968
>Nor do I know anything about European life in the 16th century.
Welcome to elementary world history youngblood poltard. The entire planet was less civilized than the Roman empire that predated it. There's a reason they call it the dark ages you know.

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How do I have the most aesthetic trip to Asia?

Taiwanese night markets?
Hong Kong clubbing?
Japanese arcades?
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I watched a bit of Altered Carbon, it looks nice.
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>>1361905
Yeah i'm pretty tired of this look in night photos of asian cities , seen so many photos of places i have walked past and taken photos of myself at night and it does not look / feel close to what it did at the time
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>>1362606
To be fair, the us have plenty of heavily edited looks to go with their cities. Especially warm colours in California or cool colours for New York.
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>>1361900
Hong Kong, pic related
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>>1362804
What the fuck did you do?

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Thinking about making a move to either of these cities. Not sure which one. They are both affordable, and they are both hot as fuck. Anyone with experience in any of these places wanna shill me?
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>>1363978
Move to SLC instead
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>>1363994
I dont drink or party but Las vegas stretches your dollar a bit farther. AZ a bit hotter but a bit more lax which is what I like. So idk. Hopefully some natives can help me out.
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>>1364024
>I dont drink or party but Las vegas stretches your dollar a bit farther.

People actually believe this

> AZ a bit hotter

like you can tell 105 from 115, yeah nah.

Phoenix transplant here, if you know where to live phoenix is INCREDIBLY cheap, just don't live in fucking scottsdale. If you want job prospects do phoenix, if you want to work in the entertainment industry, go to vegas
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Born and raised in Vegas.Alot of people forget to look outside just the strip. Relatively cheap housing, can definately live pretty comfortably here on a budget. I dont like the people here but im browsing 4chan so thats robably more an issue with me than the city.

Also if you are in tech you would be surprised how many tech companies are out here.
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>>1364033
On the plus side, not advocating LV, but if you do choose it flights around the globe are DIRT cheap in vegas. So keep that in mind

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Can we get a meetup thread going? We used to have one all the time but they seem to have dropped off the radar for the past while.

For all us >>>/trv/lers making our way over the world, it's always nice to meet a local or hang out with another traveller far away from home. Grab a beer, go on an adventure or just do whatever you want to. I've met up with 2 people from /trv/ in my city before for a day to show them around, it was great fun both times.

Probably include some details to make sure who you end up meeting is travelling for similar reasons (Ie a backpacker meeting a sex tourist might not be the best mix for either).

>Destination
>Age
>Dates
>What kind of traveller you are

For me:
>22
>Backpacker, tourist trail sites and parties are my thing.
>Full Moon Koh Phangnan from the 26th feb

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Just arrived in Hong Kong. Anybody here?
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PHILIPPINES 22

I can give u a tour and discounted hooker
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>Destination
Saigon

>Age
27

>Dates
March 1st - April 1st

>Kind of traveler
sex , drinking , clubs , drugs
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>>1360167
I'm trying to do a trip down to rio sometime this year, probably in April or May. Is that a good time of year to go or would around november/December be better? Would ipanema or Copacabana be the best place to stay or somewhere like lapa? Im 28 yo american mostly interested in beaches/nightlife
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>>1363205
Will be in the south of France around that time if you're up for doing a hike somewhere or at least to get a drink

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I'm going to be in Nice, France for 2 weeks in May for a sort of business related event. This event requires me to have a tuxedo, fancy clothes, multiple pairs of shoes, etc. This stufff is simply required to look the part. After, I am planning on going to northern Italy and the alps for two weeks to travel and hike.

What are some cheap ways I can leave all the extra shit in Nice and pick it up when I fly back out? Leaving bags at the airport gets expensive for that long. I read one idea that was just leaving the suitcase in a hotel bar after having a few drinks and picking it up on the way back, being incredibly thankful that they "held on to it for me." Another option is that I'd just like to find someone on the French version of Craigslist to hold onto it. The stuff isn't that valuable, really, but expensive enough to not just throw away and re-buy.
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>>1364025
Can't you just box it up and send it to a relative?
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>>1364025
You know most airports have storage lockers. If You really don't want to take it you can always just rent a storage room there cheap and safe
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>>1364025
Former hotel staff here, most hotels offer luggage storage. Nicer hotels will probably even comp it for you if you have a reservation to stay with them again before you leave France.

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Hong Kong is a great place for solo-travel, food and shopping. Not that anyone here cares for branded goods though.
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>>1361937
Pretty hard. You'll have more luck if you don't mind 40+ year olds.
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Well, shit. Tonight's new years fireworks are cancelled. Was looking forward to them.
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>>1336730
Probably because it reminds them too much of cage dorms.
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>>1344316
Are you sure you're not describing Shenzhen?
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>>1349423
>>1349423
are the horse races actually good to go to alone?

i was in HK, but it seemed like a thing you do with a group of friends

>tfw travel alone

>tfw so many rich and good looking white grills in HK

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Each place is like the last. Someone must speak English. Everyone kinda wears the same thing. It's the internet. We are all kinda the same. What are your thoughts? It's kinda true at least 30 years ago the world was a different place imagine traveling than with no internet.
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>>1363633
>As if people from all over the world will massively immigrate to Sub-Saharan Africa or China anytime soon.
It's already happening, there are lots of Chinese and Indians companies in Sub-Saharan Africa, bringing with them their own employees and families. They even built Hindu temples there already.
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>>1363744
In the long run this probably won't happen. The effects on global warming will likely push everyone closer to the poles eventually.
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>>1363409
Fucking go to these places that the tourist orgs are trying to "hide".

>The heart of darkness is the deepest and most terrible part of the mind which we all hold, the ability to exploit and torture others for our express benefit.

Sounds like something you can experience in CAR, Somalia, etc. You're a sheltered piece of shit who would never have the courage to go there and experience "the heart of darkness".

When the fuck was it ever possible to experience something like you're describing when travelling? Sure, travelling was dangerous back in the days, but it's not like travelers would stumble upon cannibalistic murder tribes everytime they ventured into the jungle.

I hope you're baiting
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>>1363409
>obscured by the tourist boards

Not every country is North Korea, grow up. You can find people living in abject poverty in Bangkok by walking for 15 minutes further than most tourists go. Or hell, lean over the side of the station at Phaya Thai BTS and see the hovels underneath it. Those slums next to the temples and flash hotels are not "staged", that is just the reality of life there.
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>>1361803
Get off your high horse you smug fuck. Nothing OP said indicated a desire to return to greater famine and poverty. Are you what, 23 or 24 I bet? Globalization is full of pros and cons. One of the major cons is the gray-brown smudging of travel experiences because everything is tending toward the middle-age.

I think you revealed a lot more of yourself in your judgmental tirade than you called out in OP.

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My ultimate fantasy is to completely leave my life behind. I'll keep in touch with my immediately family, but that's it. Otherwise, I couldn't care less. I have a girlfriend, but she'd probably come with me. We'll just say for this scenario that she isn't.

About me:
>29
>Fit
>Ex-Military
>White
>Speaks English and Spanish(conversational)

I want an island where no one fucks with you, where I can get a job at a fishing station or some shit.

>What are some islands, or tropical destinations left that aren't cartel or commie controlled?
>Has anyone actually done this? If so, tell stories.

I realize how ludicrous this is, but I really don't care. I'm tired of being an Amerimutt normie. I've been red pilled enough to know the collapse is coming, so I may as well leave while I can.
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>>1363972
There are other places too. American Samoa, Palau, Saipan, and the Marshall Islands. Palau and the Marshall Islands have agreements with the United States that you can stay and work indefinitely without a visa or special paperwork.
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>>1363963
If he has that kind of money he can buy himself permanent residency in 90% of the countries in the world simply by investing in real estate there.
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It's going to have to be an American Island. No got dang way you're getting hired in foreign territory for being a fisherman.
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>>1364009
>Palau
There's a one year limit for US Citizens in Palau, not indefinite.
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>>1364032
That works until
>the collapse is coming
Then suddenly penniless Amerifats aren't going to be welcome.

Anyway, the point is, OP doesn't have that kind of money, he just thinks that other countries let themselves get buttfucked like America does with Mexicans and other south-of-the-border types.



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