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Post your travel maps in this thread. Pic related is the official /trv/ Real Traveler's map™, edition 4.0.5

Fill in the countries and subdivisions you have visited, talk about your map and ask others about their maps. You can use the map however you like, the colors are more like suggestions, you don't have to use them, and you don't have to use all of them. You can add or remove colors and change the map as much as you want in any way you want. Don't like this map? Upload a completely different one. Up to you. Despite what some might say, there's no "wrong" way to use the map, and new posters and less travelled people are welcome and encouraged to stay and post :) This map is a group effort by our board, and we can only improve it if people reach out to share suggestions or corrections.

This is the newest edition of the map, edition 4.0.5, updated for September 2025. Thanks to an Anon in the previous thread, it is now easier than ever to fill in the map. You can use the website splored.com to easily color in entire countries with a single click. At the time of making this thread, it uses the old 4.0.4 template, so you still need to update it to 4.0.5 with the simplified template, but hopefully Anon will update the website after I make this thread.

Topic for this thread: Should we have a Real Traveler's Discord? Just something I've been thinking about. I don't use Discord myself, so it's not important to me, but it could be nice to have a hangout for the regulars or a "backup" in case 4chan goes down again or somewhere to share subdivision news if there's no thread up. Just interested in hearing your opinions on this.
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>>2845969
How did you get to Antarctica if you've never been to Patagonia, South Africa, or Tasmania?
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>>2846004
via the sea?
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>>2846008
From where? Don't you need an approved tour from a specific port?
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>>2846004
>>2845969
D'OH I forgor New Zealand
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>>2846105
>drives past a hangar in NZ
>colours in the entire ''''''country''''' of antarctica

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What about that place makes it more expensive, even with similar populations?
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>>2845070
Arguably the nicest beaches in Australia, beautiful wildlife, some of the nicest camping, it's legitimately paradise around the beaches/nature there. Depends what type of guy you are? if you are big on surfing there is great surf there. Perth is a nice clean city. The areas around Perth are stunning
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>>2844971
Americans are, compared to the rest of the western world, extreme in their anti-government intervention world view. The second another country shows a preference for some degree of state intervention, their minds are fucking blown. I'm not even arguing one way or another, its just the "every should do things like we do" mentality cannot be more easily demonstrated than by talking about something like "government spends money on thing"
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australia = shit
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>>2844812
Is it hot AF there?
>>2844907
The portrayal in American media is basically that Australia is like the rural south or wild west but with a British way of speaking and more surfing, but the reality couldn't be further from the truth and it is full of extreme Karens that think you getting fined for forgetting to lock your car is a reasonable policy.
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>>2846112
Another ausfag here
>Is it hot AF there?
Australia is huge and has every climate possible so it depends where you are referring to. Most of Australia in Christmas time is fucking hot though. If you are referrable to Darwin it is as hot as the devils asshole (100% humidity all year round also)

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I want to visit here. Mainly Kazakhstan, but I'd like to eventually see all of them.
What do I need to know in order to prepare myself? I'm an American who's only traveled in first world, highly English-speaking western countries before.
Are these countries cheap? What are the must see places? Do I need a tour guide? Are the cities as lively as the western world? How strict Muslim are they? Is it possible to pick up chicks here?
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>>2831786
Take the high speed rail when you can from Tashkent through Samarkand to Bukhara. I don't think it runs to Khiva yet, but you can take a regular more "Soviet" train to there and Nukus at least. Yandex is a Russian Uber pretty much and most intracity trips I took were less than 1 USD, even with a tip. I think the most I paid was 3 or 4 USD from the airport to my hotel in central Tashkent. I managed to get around surprisingly well as an Amerifat.

Tashkent is pretty underrated. The city got leveled by a massive earthquake in the late 60s, but the upside is that it got rebuilt with some pretty kino Soviet architecture. The subway stations all have their own individual art design and is pretty cool to take the subway to see in and of itself. Nukus was cool for the Savitsky Art Museum and as a jumping off point for Moynaq and (what was) the Aral Sea. Samarkand, Bukhara, and Khiva are pretty self explanatory.

Also, don't know where you're from, but Uzbekistan Airways flies direct from JFK to Tashkent.

Pic is where I stayed in Tashkent. There was a bus tour of the city with headphones for some popular languages including English that stopped in front of there.

P.S. Weirdest thing about Uzbekistan is that like half of the cars in the country are Chevrolets, mainly white sedans. GM built a plant there which was nationalized by the government, and Chevrolets there are much cheaper since Uzbekistan is an a really isolated part of the world. I didn't know about that until I was walking through Tashkent, and it hit me.
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>>2843145
>and Chevrolets there are much cheaper since Uzbekistan is an a really isolated part of the world.
They're not really cheap, they're just cheaper than anything else because the state ensures Uzbeks have no choice with tariffs out the ass slapped on every car import.
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зapбa
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Anyone been to picrel? After watching Karl Rock's vlog about the highway I really wanna go, probably this coming April. Research says there's no need for a motorbike license in order to rent, and they're cheap as hell.
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>>2846087
Yes, I went through the Pamir highway this summer. Which places did you exactly have in mind? I went from Kyrgyzstan to Tajikistan.

Is it actually possible to go to japan with someone from 4chan who can speak the language without getting scammed? I just want someone to retard wrangle me for money. I just need someone to kinda act like a friend with me if that requires pay so be it
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>>2844456
>literally have a super active Japan general
>despite this, there are still 5 other Japan threads being made
Please stop
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>>2844456
Talk with a travel agent I guess, they will be happy to take your money
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>>2844477
Probably by messaging them. Shit, didn't realize you needed a retard handler for your normal life as well
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>>2844456
you know you can hire a japanese tour guide? or sign up for a group tour with a guide?
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>>2844456
Exactly what /trv/ needed, another /r9k/ tier retarded weeb thread.

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>Turkey, Greece and Balkans are European Florida

>Italy, south France and Spain are European California

>Canary Islands are European Hawaii

>Egypt is like European Mexico

Am I right?

Also who has it better and are we sure that Americans?
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>>2845776
Think of 5 typical locations where normies in the USA go on holiday. Choose a diverse set in terms of activities, geography, vibe, etc.

Then try to think what is the CLOSEST equivalent (not the exact same) in Europe (or nearby).

Tell us what you come up with. If you're unable to, then choose 1 or 2 of the below:
>crippling autism
>absolute geographylet
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>>2845782
Your equivalencies are entirely fictional.
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>>2845784
>chose both
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>>2845782
I've been to the places you "compared an equivalent" to it's not even fucking close.

Your takes are what I would assume someone who is a RealTraveler(tm) who saw movies, lurked some travel forums, and 'visited' via tiktok/google maps/instagram would have. This is like what a 6th grader who really likes geography might think because they looked at google images for like 10 minutes

>Then try to think what is the CLOSEST equivalent (not the exact same) in Europe (or nearby).
The places you listed have completely different climates.

The Canary Islands have cool waters compared to Hawaii, a drier climate, have completely different locals and history, different food, etc
Egypt is nothing like Mexico LMFAO oh what the aztecs had pyramids and it's hot? WOW! No one tell this nigga mexico also gets snow and 10x the rainfall
Italy and South France, completely fucking different cultures and people. Temperatures and geography in South California vary drastically when you go ~4 miles from the coast.
Turkey/Greece isn't even fucking close to the ~1-10 meters above sea level that Florida is. Don't even get me fucking started on the weather or Spaniards influence that fonuded it.

Yeah dude go to America and tell people in Florida it's basically like Greece and you'll get asked what fucking drugs you're on.
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From neon lights to serene shrines, what moments captured your heart?
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>>2845926
Sir, please kindly do the needflul and share your specific concerns with us
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>>2845806
Getting laughed out of a cafe by the workers. To this day have no idea what I did wrong
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>>2846109
You were being a fat, smelly, filthy, ugly gaijin
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>>2846120
I guess so, but it happened nowhere else I went
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>>2846122
Weren't you wearing only a tank top and exposing your chest hair?

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ITT: We crown the king of SEA.

Tell your craziest story while in Southeast Asia, could be about anything.
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>>2842688
Nice larp
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>>2830934
>Went to the Philippines
>Spend two weeks with some women
>Going on dates and stuff, not even sex or anything like that
>Asks me if I want to get married
>I say sure and go back home and we start the visa process
>She comes to US and we get married
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>>2842425
>How do you meet such low value people? I never run into such mundane conversation.
Depends on the bars you frequent, you won't find those in a club or at a pub around 10PM. These conversations happen at airports, hotel attached bars/bars right across the street, pubs after the lunch crowd, and international chain places with bars. This shit happens a lot because the Digital Nomad lifestyle or travel for work life is something brodudes and staceys can only dream about because they have no real passion or qualifications to do much more than daydream it. I'm suprised you don't bump into these kinds of people at least waiting to board a plane while having some beer.

Most importantly which why /trv/ thinks something so normal and mundane is a larp like >>2842468, is because I feel 95 out of 100 anons here would never make small talk at a normal bar. If there aren't third world income bitches to pay for some sucky sucky why bother making a conversation? I've had plenty of similar conversations just talking at some small bars anywhere from Bergen to Manila; and many places in between.

I mean like really, when I sit at a bar I might say hello after asking if a seat is taken, be polite ask someone where they are headed. Usually enough of a conversation starter there and if you have a career most people normally like to talk about it. Maybe talk about some hobbies, sports, share some stories of travel over a beer. If this is really a foreign concept to /trv/ this board has really fallen off.
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>>2830973
And then everyone stood up and clapped
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>>2842504
The larp is obvious when you said 18

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Any based /trv experiences from dangerous countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan?
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>>2840884
>Almost got my rental van stolen, and got a shotgun pulled on me. It was a good time.
I totally believe this happened bro
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>>2840826
>How is Afghanistan safe?
I was there a few months ago. Dont talk about that place if all you know is lies and propaganda from TV.
>Also men
What the fuck is a woman? And no, dont give me XX chromosomes or that its a "feeling/choice". Neither of those are applicable outside of huemans. Arbitrary bullshit answers are given to game the system, what majority of women do. Scam. Lie. Cheat.


The most fundemental quality of a woman isnt reproductove strategy....its being morally infirm.

Thats true Matriarchy. Criminals are given carte blanche to do as theycl choose..........now you know why leftists like crime. Thats what they see a woman as.

A criminal.
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>>2840826
Oh, and I met with an interior ministery who was referred to as "His Excellency,". Ive killed dozens of Taliban.

This isnt a fucking game...
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>>2840826
Oh, and PPS: Afghanistan is a feminist shithole.

Hark, such sweet naivety!
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>Show compassion for man
Thats not whats happening here...this is peak feminism. Literally.

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>literally fucking dies
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>>2845171
kek
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the death of las vegas is your classic recession indicator
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>>2845563
Nah Vegas has always been good during recessions. Vegas just failed to keep up with the times.
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>The year 1931 was pivotal for Las Vegas. At that time, Nevada legalized casino gambling[28] and reduced residency requirements for divorce to six weeks.[29] This year also witnessed the beginning of construction of the tunnels of nearby Hoover Dam. The influx of construction workers and their families helped Las Vegas avoid economic calamity during the Great Depression. The construction work was completed in 1935.

Vegas, born 1931, died 2021, peaked in the 70s
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corporations ruined it. where is the mob when you need them

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Anyone go on any /x/ haunted travel trips?

Check out Corregidor in the Phillipines, I found my first body in the water, the locals call it suicide island because of the people who committed suicide jumping off a cliff after being lit on fire there

still happens

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>travel to a different country
>dont know the language that well
>get overwhelming anxiety about having to interact with locals and screwing up or them being fustrated by me
>end up spending entire trip in hotel and ordering room service
Anyone else have this problem?
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>>2841523
>one interaction depletes all your mental energy
maybe you shouldn't travel
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>>2841480
Most locals will be glad you make an actual effort even to try rather than just immediately using English.
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>>2842885
Nah that's cope locals dontwant to hear you mangle the language and keep saying huh huh huh what what what
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>>2842885
no they just get annoyed
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The key is exaggerated body language and pointing combined with google translate when required.
To avoid pissing people off I let others ho first if I think I might be awhile.

I've read all the stories and seen all the vids about this place but I just didn't listen. I thought I'd be prepared since I've been to other notoriously shitty countries to travel like Egypt and Morocco but this place is just next level in terms of the dirt, the garbage, the pollution, the poverty, the incessant and aggressive touts and attempts at begging and scamming, the sensory overload, the unbelievably dense crowds of cars and people, and of course the honking...Jesus Christ the honking is not a meme at all. My plan was to spend a month travelling through India/Nepal starting out in Kathmandu (which is basically India in terms of insanity imho) and I'm supposed to be 12 more days here but I think I might just cut my losses and leave a little earlier. I'm currently sitting in my hotel room in Jaipur and don't plan to do anything today besides getting food because I'm trying to recover from a shitty ass cold I picked up probably due to this countries abysmal public health standards (or lack thereof).

Granted it hasn't been all bad by any means. I still wouldn't say its my least favorite country I've been to but I just don't know how much more of this place I can take.
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>>2845842
People sweep the sidewalks on a daily basis in most of Mumbai. The filthiest areas are either impoverished slums or the designated trash dumps, as disposal services are laughably inadequate for the quantity of trash generated by the city. You can't even get a fucking garbage truck down most of the narrow slum streets. IDK what you mean by "serial abuse". Mumbai is a courteous city, and you can get an amazing variety of food there (including upscale Western-style indoor restaurants that would fit right in on a Denver downtown street).

The weather is also very pleasant this time of year. My room has no A/C, yet the thermometer reads 79 F and 60% humidity at 3 PM. A large tree outside definitely helps in keeping the building cool. Yeah, I probably got overcharged, but it was the only hotel showing up on my offline map. Lesson learned. Screenshot the hotel selection around the train station before showing up without cell service.
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>>2845793
>The fuck is in New Delhi that you want to spend five days there?
Idk I just searched for all the things you could do in New Delhi and it literally filled four and a half days. On the fifth day I've got some forts and temples to check out at South Delhi and then I'm taking a taxi to Agra. Also GB Road, I've been told there's a lot of talent in that place.
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Old Panvel has two pleasant lake parks with pedestrian promenades. The fashion district is brightly lit by stylish shops, but the street infrastructure is typical India. Covered in dirt, beat to shit and falling apart as fast as it is being built. Yes, India is making great strides with its public improvement projects, but how the hell do you overcome the social inertia of a billion people who think everything is fine the way it is? Short of brute-forcing the population into submissively serving the state like their neighbors to the north.

Apart from a scooter wreck (immediately surrounded by 100 guys) and two mean dogs coming at me from a shanty doorstep (one of which now has a bruise on his ass), it was an uneventful evening in Panvel. Nobody really bothers me here, and most people look away when they notice that I notice that they are looking at me. Worries about future denials of stay top my list of concerns. A ₹283 mutton biryani at a fancy alcohol-serving restaurant full of sulky men was less food than expected, but seemed to be very high quality. The days of pigging out on cheap food are over for me. Eat less, eat better, avoid all the discomfort of gluttony.
>>2845934
By talent you mean, ahem, ladies of the night?
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>>2845954
yes, that
I want to have an adventure in India and a lot of.. that
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>>2843923
>scamming
I like India, but you have to watch your banking communications. I was warned about this from a co-worker who got his bank account drained via hotel employees. I thought it was an exaggeration until I heard something outside of my hotel room, looked through the peephole and saw an employee with a laptop and antenna.

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this country looks pretty good to me: https://www.youtube.com/@ScramblerPOV/videos
the city looks cool and the nature also looks really good
Anyone been?
fuck I really want to ride a motorcycle in Georgia... I'm thinking of getting one and driving from western Europe to Georgia through Turkey. Sounds fucking rad, please tell me i'm wrong and shouldn't start planning such a trip (i give myself 5 years including getting a motorcycle license and learning to drive that thing first)?
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Georgia goes through cycles of being great, or shit.
This has to do with the Russian economy, local tourism, political instability. It's currently shit, but the good news is that when the Ukraine war is over it will be un-bombed, cheap again, attract regional tourism investment again, the Georgians will become friendly again.

From what I gather the country is experiencing an inflationary crisis and locals resent the foreign tourists who are raising prices at a time local wages are falling. It's a very political place. Kind of like Spain.
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>>2842559

Retarded turd worlders bitching because they're poor. As if they could afford my apartment in the first place.

>Kind of like Spain.

The women are arguably worse and more pretentious since, unlike Spaniards, they have some sense propriety to their sluttiness.

You couldn't pay me to go back. I'd go back to Ukraine first.
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>>2832040
travel bloggers almost never show the actual living conditions outside of the best cities or areas
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>>2842559
>locals resent the foreign tourists who are raising prices at a time local wages are falling
Mostly they resent Russian draft dodgers. It's only the richer middle class ruskies who could afford to leave and they've inflated the shit out of the prices in major cities, especially Tbilisi - rent literally tripled. There's a ton of them there, they're far more impactful than the tourists.
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I want to go to the caucuses in May.
What's a better trip, Azerbaijan + Georgia, or Georgia + Armenia? I'd love to see all 3, but I don't think I'll have more than 10 days.

Stuff to do here?
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>>2842098
Think I'd rather visit Palestine for a day than Juarez
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>>2842098
It's quite a boring city. Turkey ass (colitas de pavo) is the local delicacy, served on tortas (sandwiches made with bolillo buns). There are frequent smells of sewage and plenty of abandoned buildings full of trash. Hardly anybody is having fun on the streets, but nobody is out looking for trouble either (at least in the downtown area). People will stare at you as a foreigner, but they won't bother you. The cheapest hotels are fucking awful, but when I visited there were a couple places in the $15/night range that were halfway decent. One advantage of Juarez is that it is right across from El Paso, which has the Greyhound & Amtrak stations downtown - and arguably is even more boring than Juarez. CDJ also has many buses heading farther south into Mexico, so if you are traveling overland to get away from the winter cold this time of year, it's an okay place to start. The downtown pedestrian plazas are decent, but only when compared to the utterly hideous architecture of the rest of the city.

It's common knowledge: Tijuana has the worst people in Mexico, and Juarez is the ugliest city in Mexico. It gets surprisingly fucking cold and windy in the winter months, while being a torrid hell in summer.
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Dunas de Samalayuca, outside the city.
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>>2842098
As far as I could see just the usual Mexican small city stuff. Walk down the main street to the cathedral plaza. buy cheap crap or don't. get a hooker or a root canal or whatever then walk back over to el paso cause I'm not gonna sleep in Juarez.
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They used to have amazing nigjhtlife with lots of bars and discos

They even had bullfights in the middle of town but I think all that is gone now that the tourist all left long ago

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Its history speaks for itself. Food is good. Lots to do nature wise. Huge city.

Why isn't it a premier tourist destination? I mean I sort of know why but there's other muslim countries that get lots of tourists

Also, whats worth seeing there besides obvious stuff like pyramids?
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>>2841159
>Dude I love living in literal shit lmao!
Are you a pajeet by chance?
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>>2841154
Aswan is pretty cool - the rameses statues are amazing, but when you learn the've been moved it kinda ruins it. there's a few towns on the way that have some 'lesser' ruins that are interesting and waaay less touristed.

>So far Morocco was the only country I wanted to leave within 24 hours of being there
im going for a week in the new year - any hints/advice. fwiw i didnt find Egypt that bothersome, i've got a decent 'la shukran' and an even better 'fuck off'. i look poorer than them when i travel and am 6'2 sooo..
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Anyone have any experience on a Nile cruise or organized tour, i would like to visit for a week or two but not interested unless i have a buffer from the locals
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>>2843237
Nile cruises are OP. One of the best /trv/ experiences you can have, imo.

You'll get overcharged booking from abroad. You can directly go to the boats and negotiate better rates for remaining empty rooms if you're a "pro /trv/er" and are a little sensititve to price.
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>>2843237
Definitely do it!


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