>Turkey, Greece and Balkans are European Florida>Italy, south France and Spain are European California>Canary Islands are European Hawaii>Egypt is like European MexicoAm I right?Also who has it better and are we sure that Americans?
>>2845698>All European side of Mediterranean is considered safe and "local" like Americans consider southern states of their both coasts.LMFAO please be bait>Canaries are good all year round, you fly there over an ocean, but you don't need passport or anything. Apart for warmer climate and very few local twists, it basically, culturally Europe. So yes, it's kind of like Hawaii to Americans.Yeah because Puerto Rico doesn't exist in your mindAre you even 18 this is some grade A retard logic. It would be like me going:Well boston is like up north and cool with some old buildings, it's basically london for americans!Detroit is filled with nogs who ruin everything, so It's basically Berlin, Paris, London, or Butapest!Ireland is cold, boring, and full of drunks, it's basically like the upper midwest statesI seriously hope you're just paraphrasing some retarded thot bait
>>2845776Think of 5 typical locations where normies in the USA go on holiday. Choose a diverse set in terms of activities, geography, vibe, etc.Then try to think what is the CLOSEST equivalent (not the exact same) in Europe (or nearby).Tell us what you come up with. If you're unable to, then choose 1 or 2 of the below:>crippling autism>absolute geographylet
>>2845782Your equivalencies are entirely fictional.
>>2845784>chose both
>>2845782I've been to the places you "compared an equivalent" to it's not even fucking close. Your takes are what I would assume someone who is a RealTraveler(tm) who saw movies, lurked some travel forums, and 'visited' via tiktok/google maps/instagram would have. This is like what a 6th grader who really likes geography might think because they looked at google images for like 10 minutes>Then try to think what is the CLOSEST equivalent (not the exact same) in Europe (or nearby).The places you listed have completely different climates.The Canary Islands have cool waters compared to Hawaii, a drier climate, have completely different locals and history, different food, etcEgypt is nothing like Mexico LMFAO oh what the aztecs had pyramids and it's hot? WOW! No one tell this nigga mexico also gets snow and 10x the rainfallItaly and South France, completely fucking different cultures and people. Temperatures and geography in South California vary drastically when you go ~4 miles from the coast.Turkey/Greece isn't even fucking close to the ~1-10 meters above sea level that Florida is. Don't even get me fucking started on the weather or Spaniards influence that fonuded it. Yeah dude go to America and tell people in Florida it's basically like Greece and you'll get asked what fucking drugs you're on.
Got laid off but it's fine since I was planning to go back to uni to get my degree. Moved back in with my parents (26) to save money the last couple months and will finish my applications (or almost all them) in Jan. Then I will have from feb-september. I want to spend some of it travelling but don't want to cut through too many savings.I had a remote job and was able to travel a lot and kind of want to try something different. Anybody know monasteries like Wat Pa Tam Wua? I have never been to SE Asia or India and plan to combine cheap hostel type travel with stints of weeks-months in monasteries that are free. I don't mind the regimented life. I kind of want it. I want to know as many places (buddhist, Hindu, or Sikh) in India and SE Asia I can live for free or near free. It seems Thailand has the most like this.
>>2845306Yeah I wonder about actually finding a cool one where you can also learn some interesting craft like brewing or be able to converse with some deep thinkers, so with that said they would have to speak englishI once went to one in Thailand and i stayed for like 2 days and they literally had someone mowing the this stadium sized field all day every day, so yes they were retarded. The food sucked and there was a lot of hot but annoying "namaste" type girlsThe best part was when we were doing some meditation walk in a light rain. We had some little unbrellas for cover, and then the rain got heavier. Like 20 minutes of a pounding rain beat on the umbrellas besides one tall , bald, buff and tatted up white dude that looked like be did time. He just let the rain pour all over him and when they told us to walk back inside he dropped to his knees and spread his arms out while dripping wet and getting more rain pounded on him. I should of asked him about it
Just fyi if you stay at those places as a visitor they ask for donations and it'd be rude not to do so. If you dedicate to spending years there it's maybe different if you can get accepted there. Either way you must follow the scheduleWake up very early and meditation for 1 hour Then breakfastThen mindfulnessMore meditation LunchMeditation practice Perhaps some local choresDinnerFree timeBed earlyAnd you can't just spend time in phones or laptop it's not a modern housing it's mindfulness living. Dedicated monks never leave, shave heads, only wear robes, don't own tech, don't date or have families, reply in donations and local food
>dedicated monks never leaveUntrue. Monks travel between temples all the time.>>2845306>I want everything for freeEntitlement mentality. Lose it or else stay with mommy & daddy.
Wtf happens here?! >huge country>absolutely beautiful>same part of world as Thailand and Vietnam kino>ancient history >probably cheap as fuckIs it an Islamic hellhole, or an untapped resource? There must be some amazing experiences lurking in the 10million islands*apart from Bali
>>2845740*surfing and diving, ffs.
>>2845740Yeah maybe thats the case. I didnt totally mean for them to be all in one exact locationWas hoping for a like "hey bro go stay at this town for some waves, and then when ur arms are cooked go to this town to swim with some dumb but cute yoga girls" "when both of those bore you, go play thru Chronno Trigger in a little seaside shack"
>>2845744yeah, that sounds comfy as fuck.If you're rich, you could try Cornwall in England. >world famous surf spots (Newquay)>lots of wreck diving and apparently decent diving in the Isle of Scilly (England's ''''''''mediterranean islands'''''')>lots of beautiful little cottages to snuggle up in>plenty of dumb slags around in Plymouth as well as tourists looking for fun (especially in tourist campsites)
>>2845744>>2845745Jesus, i'm such adumb cunt. Didn't realise what thread I'm in, fucking hell.
>>2834644>Wtf happens here?!monkey torture
worth a trip or no?
>>2844640yeah, it's good for 2-3 days, and maybe one of those days spent up in Tampere, or across the sea in Tallinn. was expensive though, although public transport was cheap-ish and food in supermarkets wasn't too bad price wise if you brought traditional/local foodstuffs (bread, rice, potato, fish).
>>2845240the Ateneum near the station was a good gallery for a rainy afternoon too, plus the cafe inside was beautiful/delicious cakes
>>2844654They're just like me
It's too small and expensive to make sense as a main destination (unless there's some very specific reason why you want to specifically be in Finland and know it can carry the trip), but if you're in the area already then yeah go for it.
>>2844654if you're into war history Finland is a hidden gem in Europe, there are museums and old bunker lines and fortifications everywhere along the eastern border from south to north
Is it worth it?I'm thinking about going in january/february/march since flights are cheaper and it won't be overcrowed with normies. But is it worth it? Are all museums open in winter?
>over 12 degrees>decemberAh yes, I too enjoy summer weather
>>2824972physically based
Is Christmas in Tokyo gay and expensive? I should probabaly go to some chill onsen town for xmas right? And then tokyo for NYE?
>>2845544Christmas is just a normal day except that many people go on fancy dates with their partners.NYE is significantly worse than Christmas, everything is closed for a week. The countdown has been banned for the last couple of years (confirmed banned this year too).
>>2845638>NYE closed for a weekDoes this apply to Japan as a whole or just Tokyo?Any reccomendations for whats the best and cheapest way to Ski bum?Buy used gear and then find cheap hostel style lodging somewhere close to a mountain right? Meet people to ride with and maybe kiss?
Where is the cheapest place that I travel to outside of Europe (I'm in the UK) ?
>>2845674That I can travel to*
Flights to Morocco can be as low as 30 quid, cheap hotel or hostel bunk will run you $10-15. Restaurant meal outside city center $3-4, intercity bus $5There's also cheap flights to Turkey but it's not quite as cheap unless you're really in the boonies.
>>2845674I'm meaning Europe to be EU here....Georgia used to be cheap, not sure about now with the russianfags. Maybe outside of Tbilisi? Azerbaijan and Armenia probably are on the same tier.Central Asia is cheap, but flights will fuck you unles syou can chain some Wizzair cheap flights to UAE, etc.Balkans is still alright, though slowly creeping up. Bosnia is maybe the cheapest of the lot. Avoid Croatia. Albania probably will become Croatia 2 along the coast, so get in quick. You can also try Ukraine if you like adventure. Krakow flights are cheap, and its easy to get across the border to Lviv.On the same tier, there's Transnistria, which might not exist as a 'state' soon. Moldova I've heard is dirt cheap.
Unironically, check Jet2Holidays.Alternatively, if you don't mind being mostly trapped in the hotel all week and don't mind armed guards, Tunisia is apparently really good.
>>2845674>>2845683>GeorgiaTbilisi still has some cheap lodging but otherwise it's gotten somewhat expensive. Restaurants aren't cheap at all.>AzerbaijanMore or less same shit. Baku, at least>Central Asia is cheap, but flights will fuck you unles syou can chain some Wizzair cheap flights to UAE, etcCan confirm, done exactly that. Flights from UAE can get hilariously cheap. Otherwise, you can try Pegasus, you can often find something via Istanbul in the ~250 euro return range. Once you get there, you're king. Everywhere is hilariously cheap (excluding Kazakhstan, which is still below Eastern EU level).>BalkansAlbania is fine but still more expensive than anything above. Croatia can get stupidly expensive. No idea about Bosnia. Montenegro is nice and an inexpensive alternative to Croatia (off-season. Do not fucking go there in the summer)>UkraineVery, very cheap last time I've been, but that was a decade ago.I'm seconding Morocco, easily accessible and inexpensive as long as you don't let yourself get scammed on the regular. Jordan is fine too once you get there and keep away from tourist traps but the visa is pricey (unless you stay in Akaba). Flights are usually really cheap on the other hand.SEA and China are great value but you do have to go on a long trip to bring the per month total down because flights will absolutely hurt your wallet. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Hey /trv/, I’m looking to take February off to ride Amtrak around parts of the U.S. I’ll be taking these routes for sure: >Empire Builder>Coast Starlight>California Zephyr. Which others are worth considering?
>>2845559the bedroom/roomette is like a thousand dollars or more, just admit trains are for richfag autists, especially in the us where trains are seen as a luxury not a necessity
>>2845614>the bedroom/roomette is like a thousand dollars or more,No, it's not lmaoIt depends entirely on the distance, the route, the season, and how far in advanced you're booking tickets.I can get a bedroom down to Miami from Washington DC for less than $600.
>>2845689>>2845614And just for comparison, on the same dates a flight to Miami is $220 + $35 for the first checked bag, and $50 for each additional checked bag, oversized checked bags are $100-150. So if for example you're travelling with a checked bag and a cello.That would be ~$355-405 for that flight. (And I personally wouldn't fly with a cello unless going international). Or I could get a roomette for $600 and everything is checked for free, and I get 3-4 free meals and drinks along the way.Obviously the time saved is USUALLY worth the airfare, but if you enjoy train travel and don't care about the time it takes, it's not as absurdly priced as you're making it out to be. Again, especially if you're bringing along lots of luggage.
>>2845691Some other potential benefits to sleeper train travel (Europe)>being able to wake up in the centre of destination in the morning >kills a night's accommodation costs>restaurant carts are kino>can fuck
>>2845697The US's size and the speed of amtrak makes that less of a thing, but I agree.DC to Miami for example is a 24-28 hour trip assuming no major delays. So it's not like an overnight trip where you can wake up in the morning and be in Miami.DC to Chicago is one of the few routes where it makes sense, board in DC at ~4pm and arrive in chicago at ~8:30-9am. Or the opposite, board in Chicago at ~6pm and arrive in DC around noon-1pm the next day. They also do "traditional dining service" on that route so you have a real dining car with proper seating and a decent menu selection. Dinner comes with a free alcoholic drink (though sometimes, if your car attendant likes you he'll slip you freebies). But generally in the US sleeper trains are used for multi-day trips where flying USUALLY just makes more sense unless you have specific reasons to avoid flying, or just want to enjoy a train trip, or have specific luggage as mentioned above.
Why are commercial aircraft flying lower to the ground than they used to?
>>2841921>probably a flight path just changedIt would be several flight paths in this case, but nonetheless that might be the reason. This is what some people call "flyover country" so we're not used to getting layovers and such but maybe that's what's changed.>some freight aircraft fly lowerWe've been having more of those as well, so that makes sense. Thanks for the reply.
it takes too much fuel to fully escape OP's gravity well
>>2841763prove it
>>2845646why are you necro'ing old shitty threads with low effort comments?
>>2841915They are getting bigger, the same twin engine layout has gone from 4 seats 1 aisle to 7 seats 2 aisles in the last 20 years.
Why don't we have a general for akiya homes? For people who got one, thinking about getting one, etc. Tips, tricks, general japan real estate discussion, whatever. Are akiya homes still cheap and available? Any good deals you saw recently?
>>2845446>you need approval from the local government or community to often buy a houseOnly for the government-run akiya banks for shit that's like 0 yen on paper, stop blowing smoke up anon's ass.
>>2845528So when are you getting an Akiya
>>2845536Right after I get my visabro passport of course ;)
>>2845528I don't think you get what the "demoralizers" and people explaining are getting at.You're on 4chan of all places, the amount of people who are actually going to go through all these hurdles even if you think it's no biggie. Do you actually think anyone here, on trv, are going to go past day dreaming? Absolutely not. 99/100 anons here would go visit the house see mold, water damage, disrepair, or all three and not know what to do about it. It doesn't matter what country you're in mold, water damage, and other issues cost a fair bit of money to take care of. Getting these houses up to a livable status isn't going to be cheap, upkeep of a house isn't cheap, taxes aren't always cheap. This is assuming that you can jump through all the hurdles to get said house in the first place.People here can't even successfully apply for JET without sperging out, how the hell are they going to manage to obtain and maintain a Akiya; especially since many of these are in rural areas where a car is almost required to make it livable in summer/winter.No one is saying it's impossible, just that the anons here aren't going to go the whole 9 yards to get there.
>>2845550so what?
Tell me some cool, interesting, funny, scary, or in any way memorable things that happened to you while traveling.
>be at a restaurant just off walking street in Saigon because it had cheap beer and friendly staff>British guys show up 30 minutes later and sit near me>start talking and drinking together>apparently they had been there twice before doing the same thing. cheap beer and nice staff>continually get hounded by street sellers as they keep buying random stuff from them>lots of banter with them so it's quite funny actually. they spoke good english>notice these ugly escorts across the road sitting at a restaurant they have no place being at>now there's two>they sit there for two hours>point it out to the lads and one of them says he shagged the one in the red last night (50+ years old, hips blown out and can't walk straight, fucking gross)>"she keeps messaging to come over mate">ignore them and eventually they go away>about 2am and all drunk as fuck>escort lady shows up again>restaurant closes so we grab another beer for the road and start walking aroundComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2845583no but he was fat as fuck, that was in Tokyo btw so I can only imagine all the shocked Japs staring at him in horror
>>2845590If this what passes for interesting and memorable for you, you must be an extremely boring bastard.
>Went to visit pyramids outside Mexico City>Some dude offers tours on ATV>Sure what the hell. End up riding around smoking cigs on ATVs, checking out the various sites>He starts lighting up a joint every 30 minutes, shares with me>Points to a hill and says it has a great view and is empty>I'm sick of all the people everywhere so that sounds good>He takes me up on back of his dirt bike>Old bumpy stone road. Must be ancient. Terrifying ride up, not used to riding on these>See all kinds of cool 'old Mexico' stuff I hadn't seen in the city. Rattlesnake, golden eagle, some peasant girls in traditional dresses doing chores, old guy with donkey cart>Get up higher and it's empty, no one up there. Does have a nice view>Talk to guide about his life, Mexico, violence and corruption etc. Notice he has cartel tattoos, worried if I'm going to get stabbed but it's fine>Endure terrifying ride back down the hill, get on bus, soon back in chaos of Mexico cityI had sworn off Latin America after seeing Mexico City but that little glimpse of the old world made me reconsider
>>2845617Yeah, I am. Leaving for Asia alone was the biggest thing I had done since high school.Got drunk the first time ever with 2 girls in Hanoi.Second time in my story.I am shy and introverted. Asian girls seem to dig that on a tall, handsome, white man.
What's the point of expensive hotel rooms?I don't mean suites I mean a basic room in an expensive hotel is basically the same as a cheap motel
>>2833548>basic room in an expensive hotelwhat you get>predictable standard>comfy bed, clean room, nice bathroom, working AC / heat and good (sound) isolation>good location, nice architecture / room>good service and trained staffif you only care about a safe place to sleep that's too muchbut honestlyI don't mind spending 200-300€/night (well half of it)if I KNOW that I am getting a good nights sleepalso having knowledgeable and trained staff that can organize stuff for you (various tickets for anything, transportation, reservations etc.) is pretty useful as well
>>2836904your odds are much lower. They'd be out of business if they neglected housekeeping and cleanliness and were charging high prices. Patel running some budget hotel on the other hand...Like I said you get what you pay for.
>>2841769if you're going to kys, do it in the type of room OP likes to use
>>2833548comfort
>>2833865My room in Seoul was smaller...cause it had a shower and shitter in it. And cost more. But damn...that was a prime location.
I'm staying in Iceland with friends for a week. We're going to be a group of 8-10 guys.Exact date is TBD but likely going to be late next year, October November or something like that.What are some tips for cool and not immediately obvious things to do and what's a nice place to stay that isn't Reykjavik?We've done this a couple times and just rent a house together, no hotels.
>>2844047october / november is probably going to be fairly bleak weather wise. persistent cold, lots of rain or maybe snow, wind, that kind of thingdays will be getting short as wellso driving around could be a real bitch and the interior / highland areas will be closed to you don't get bus tours everywhere, hire a car and go where thou wilt however you have correctly figured out that staying anywhere that isn't reykjavik is the thing to do. while people do drive round the entire island in a week or less this is a bit of a waste of a trip as you spend all the time in the car. so pick an area that looks good and explore it. south coast from selfoss through to hofn has lots of nice stuff to look at and you'll be able to get accom around Vik. Myvatn area also has a lot to see. if you have any geology enthusiasts in your group then all the volcano stuff in reykjanes will be very exciting for them
>>2844047Me and fiancee just got back from a 7 day trip. We rented a Camper van and went around the ring road. Had a few long driving days, but we crammed in a lot and saw almost everything. Very comfy, would recommend.For 8-10 guys, doing the entire ring road would be challenging. Depends on coordination and if people want a relaxing or more adventurous trip. Definitely don't just stick around Reykjavik for a week. Drive the Golden Circle, Southern Coast, and Snaefellsnes Peninsula at least. Myvatn if you have the time. East side is optional if you're not up for the full ring road. It's a very pretty drive, especially if you go out to Seyðisfjörður, but there's not a lot between Hofn and Myvatn.Immediately obvious stuff:>Golden Circle: Must do. See Thingvellir, Geysir, Gullfoss, Kerid Crater. Enjoy the scenic drive. >National Museum: Goes through the entire history of Iceland chronologically. Must do.>Blue Lagoon: Cool but very touristy and expensive. Glad we went, was nice to have everything catered, but we would probably just go to a smaller hot springs next time.>Snaefellsnes Drive: Another scenic drive with cool stops.>Southern Coast: Sejalandfoss and Skogafoss are must sees.Less obvious:>Silfra Fissure: Very cool snorkeling tours of the Silfra Fissure, can do alongside a golden circle drive. They put you in a wet suit and you can see the underwater fissure of two tectonic plates. Big highlight>Skogar Museum: Right next to Skogafoss, smaller museum that's fantastic. Crammed full of stuff with outdoor turf house exhibits. Barely anyone was here when we wentComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2844326https://mega.nz/file/f9lCBKpT#huHqPD9lVH2-R8YUeD4Eo7z79atbMr-lBC5kmtxUol4This was our itinerary document we made for the trip. Formatting is rough and we didn't stick to everything exactly (like Day 1 we did the Silfra snorkeling tour instead of Reykjavik sight seeing). But should give you some ideas.
>>2844047You should eat whale and puffin while in Iceland
>>2844326>>2844331This is really nice, thank you.Driving the ring isn't something we're gonna be able to do with a group that big, but it's gonna give me an idea about what to pitch to the others and where to look for housing. The fissure and the glacier hike particularly sound really really nice.
Favorite places in Greece?
I recommend everyone to visit Rethymno in Crete. It's been my go-to destination 2 years in a row now.
>>2837440you fell for the western propaganda that culturally appropriated greek back a few centuries ago because anyone based couldn't have been from a different cultural sphere etcThe greeks were in constant cultural, political and trade communication with the east and it's empires and nations. When they expanded they mostly looked east. Their very achievements in maths, sciences, etc were a continuation of the achievements of the egyptians and the mesopotamians. The east was the civilized world for them. The turks are nomads that settled the region of Anatolia in the early 1000s and were absorbed by the local populations. What you see as turkish is simply the local cuisine, temperament, body language of the mediteraneans. The Ancient greeks would have felt 10 times weirder to you. Tldr you fell for the memes and the propaganda of the west.Also wtf did you expect? To hear ancient greek music from 500bc? Where are you gonna hear ancient music from even 100 or 200 years ago in your country?
>>2839875There are lots of hotels with other foreigners around there. It was grimy but I never felt in danger. I walked to the metro station with my backpack on at 5 in the morning to catch my flight and had no problems.
>>2837440Neither likes to admit it but Greeks and Turks are not only culturally but ethnically extremely similar, owing to centuries of voluntary co-mingling in Anatolia, subjugation, rape and slave imports. Think of it like the difference between Greek and Turkish Yoghurt.
>>2845425>Where are you gonna hear ancient music from even 100 or 200 years ago in your country?The radio, opera house or concert hall
I don't even like travelling. I think it's stressful and I get over-stimulated and anxious and I'm scared there'll be racism or I'll get food poisoning or whatever. I experienced none of this in Greece.I did, however, see the Parthenon without scaffolding. I cried at the Dionysos theatre. Got lost on my way to the Agora, and then ran excitedly hand in hand with my friend squealing as we neared the Hephaistos Temple.I travelled with a group of other classics enthusiasts, my Ancient Greek professor being our academic guide. We visited the incredible site of Delphi, and my heart exploded. We saw a giant rainbow at Mycenae. I ran the whole lenght of the stadium at Olympia (and regretted it). Walked the 999 steps up to the fort at Nafplio. Visited the National Museum; how I sobbed while looking at the grave stelae!Our final day, we visited Cape Sounion and stood at the foot of the hill where the Poseidon Temple was bathing in sunlight, my professor reading out loud a poem by Hjalmar Gullberg - a poem written about that particular temple.I don't know if I like travelling now, or if I just love Greece. Coming home hit me hard, like an actual heartbreak. I cried for days, feeling a hole in my heart like I was yearning for a lost lover. Idk. Luckily, Greece isn't lost and I'm definitely coming back.It's so strange, realizing - it's all real. Having studied ancient literature, Ancient Greek, ancient philosophy and art history... And it's all real, not just textbooks and pictures. Idk man, Greece really changed me. My heart is so full.
>>2837196You sound like you're very much into Greek love but I too enjoy seeing the places I've once read about, even if they're ultimately just a lone column with a stork nest atop.
AI slop from the tourism board. Anywho the Greece mainland is a shithole, rapidly depopulating and decaying. Only thing fascinating about it was looking out my window watching middle age cat ladies scurrying about feeding strays as the sun went down in what looked like bombed out streets full of garbage, graffiti and junkies . Crete was nice tho in the off-season
>>2837196Are you a woman?
>>2837196lol
>I'm scared there'll be racism Do you know where you are?
Spending a week a friend's house in Venetto Italy. Went to Venice, Bologna, Rovigo, Verona, Revana, Forli.Pros:- Not insanely hot- Amazing Food- Beer is not as bad as I thought it woul be.- Everyone looks good, the wops are actually white.- Surprisingly affordable if you aren't dumb.- People are ridiculously friendly, not used to this since I grew up with southerners and they're absolute scum.- Verona is the most beautiful city I've ever seen.- Trains are decent.Cons:- Niggers- Jeets- AbdulsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Just came back from ItalyFood was fucking miserable, absolutely shocking. Didn't matter where I went.. A tourist trap, a hole-in-the-wall pizzarea, luxury restaurant in the city center...They were all, at best, middling trending to bad.Japan and Switzerland did Italian food way, way better than Italy itself.jfc
If you can squeeze sideways your wallet into your back pocket, might be uncomfortable but it makes you extra sensitive to movement and pickpocket-proof, also it signals that you're on high alert and pickpocketers will leave you alone, and try not to use backpacks.t. former professional pickpocketer
>>2845401what does this even mean?
>>2845402Put the wallet into your pocket sideways, with the longest side horizontally
I'll be spending about a week in Genoa. What are some cool daytrips I can do from there? Any nice historical towns? Any remains of the Genoese empire?
