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its me again whats up /trv/ its December and you know the deal every new year the plane is taking off at 23th night time so meet me at NAIAX T3 in the afternoon and return is on January 5 longer than usual anyone else at it visiting the snowy parts of asia like the Genghis khan statue in Mongolia and the Harbin ice festival winter theme park thingy so what the hell do i even do here? and yes we do have a tour guide with bus
also i learned that this place was actually a safe haven for Russians during the war and Harbinites used to have a Jewish cemetery there at one point though how do you meet IRL slavs i know you guys are hiding out here somewhere but i dunno how to "legitimately" peek and cross in the europe border maybe next 5 years i guess

since i will come in "contact" with the mainland itself lemme know some good shit to do with the great firewall of china should i try something fun like probing the censored network with a cheap rooted phone? will anything from the outside even work at all and can i even phone home to the mini PC back in my room in manila?
now out of morbid curiosity what would happen if i type the infamous tiny man square in public wifi or use my issued tourist sim inside hotel for a harmless baidu search would i actually get trouble? inb4 OP delivers im not gonna risk my entire family for this stupid stunt 4chan though

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what's Jordan like in the cities?
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>>2737178
You bring in cash, then go to an exchange on the street (they’re everywhere) as needed. Wear your cash strapped to your bare chest at all times. It’s a safe, friendly place but better safe than sorry.
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>>2734126
Jordanian cities are extremely shit. Amman has a citadel and an amphitheatre in the city centre, and a authentic souk nearby (which admittedly is pretty neat), the rest is literally just an endless expanse of sandstone houses. There's a huge flagpole that looks cool from a distance. Zarqa has 650k inhabitants but is practically just a suburb of Amman. Irbid has nothing either. Aqaba has a fort, otherwise nothing. The only city I visited there that I'd consider comfy was Salt, probably because its history goes back more than 100 years (Amman was practically uninhabited until 1878, while Salt was the administrative centre in Ottoman times).

On the other hand, the nature in Jordan is otherwordly beautiful, and the ancient sites are magnificent. I traveled extensively there a couple of years ago and could write you some tips if you want.
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>>2736970
>>2737160
>>2738255
There's something called the wayback machine and archive.is

http://web.archive.org/web/20151002175625/https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a1810/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex/

https://archive.is/https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a1810/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex/

https://archive.is/PnsES
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>>2738451
Please do, going this winter

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any websites that provides high-end private, customized tours with private assistant to go with me anywhere in the world doing adrenaline-packed activities? yeah, adrenaline shits like shooting, skydiving, scuba, snowboard, off-road motorcycle, etc. im legally blind (retinitis pigmentosa), deaf, don't want to be with people, just me and the assistant (could be my gf), too risky for me to go out doing solo trip now. i have done solo trip before, but my vision worse now than before
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Are you also retarded? Because that post was abhorrent. Pic rel. . . . Oh wait

Discuss business class travel options.

Why is Finnair business class so expensive lately? They nerfed their economy class (less baggage allowance, shittier meals, shittier service) so business is the only way I'd consider flying with them, but why is it so costly? It used to be the quickest way to get to Asia from Europe which I guess could justify the price, but now that every airline has to fly around Russia anyway this is no longer the case. So why do they charge so much?
I do admit their business class seats are comfy af though.
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I don't fly business class as I'm not a retard and can afford to take time off work. If your time is worth more than $400/hr then you should've retired by now.
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>>2740010
Based overland traveler
The sleeper berths on the train to Chiang Mai looked very comfortable
People leave the curtains open even after dark
They forget that tinted glass works in reverse when it's nighttime
You never know what you're gonna see
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>>2740003
their not being able to fly over Russia makes them significantly less competitive for some routes vs chinese carriers. I believe some of the carriers have started bitching to the EU/EC about the need to impose protectionist measures to keep the chink airlines from BTFO of them kek

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Why does no one ever recommend vitamins for travel holy shit these things are game changers.
>be me
>been in Japan for 3 weeks
>been seeing nature and stuff
>after first week start feeling like ass and ability to stay asleep sucking
>can't figure out what's wrong Japan is suppose to be healthy and stuff
>yesterday feel like ass didn't even drink much this weekend
>fuck it taking some random internet advice
>go find picrel
>take 2 in the afternoon
>feel sleepy af 3 hours later
>just woke up from a 12 hour sleep
>feel like a billion bucks
why the hell don't you faggots ever recommend shit that people need? Do you all just travel somewhere and sit inside the hotel all day? Mother fucker I've been on nearly 2 weeks feeling off and could have had my whole december ruined.
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>>2739802
Yeah, previous overseas trips without vitamins always led to chronic fatigue. This trip I brought some vitamins along and now I can be out on excursions for hours without feeling tired.
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>>2739921
just eat healthy food retard
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>>2739807
I am also walking the same distances and doing the same things, I work an /out/ job so maybe maybe that's the difference, all of my fatigue is solved with a big sleep and a few hours of laying down through 1 day. The only supplement I use are these. I am sure most people on this board work IT.

Usually works a treat (also works with hangovers)
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BTW gooning depletes your zinc levels
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>>2739967
Aren't those basically a multivitamin like OP image just making it a fizzy drink
>>2739925
Big problem is regardless of the 'just eat healthy bro' isn't a lot given the fact your normal diet is going to change if you are going pretty far. Like Asian food going to be different from the food in Canada

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2024 Edition

Post your favorite travel photos you've taken this year. I know a lot of people went to Japan. Let's see which destinations were actually the most photogenic.

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Tena
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>>2740081
Here’s more typical shots:

Horseback riding - Baños, ecuador
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Mishualli- Ecuador
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Do you agree with those redditers reactions?
>I 200% agree.

https://www.reddit.com/r/travel/s/lShxzni3kx
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>>2730056
Kill yourself, retarded weeaboo
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>>2730523
>NOOOOO YOU CANT BE ANTI JAP
How about you kill yourself? Im sure you'll meet your waifu
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>>2738561
Only in the North
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>>2738607
it has way more variety than many other cuisines. I would say that the only overused part is pickled vegetables, but at least it's not as bad as japan in this respect.
if your point is "everything is le red and le spicy" then that's just what the most popular dishes in the west are, there are many more flavor profiles in korean cuisine. just for comparison, koreans and chinese who live in japan frequently complain about how bland and boring japanese cuisine is compared to theirs.
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>>2740053
>Koreans and chinese who live in japan frequently complain about how bland and boring japanese cuisine is compared to theirs.
Then why do they live there rather than going back home? The Japanese usually don’t live in either of those countries tho?

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Anyone ever travel to the parts of china with all the unused abandoned buildings? Those ghost cities(I heard they’re mostly just shitty buildings made to be an investment but not really lived in but I could be wrong). Was it interesting? You try going into the buildings? Was it creepy or just boring?
They look kinda creepy to me ngl. Just these huge empty monoliths
Picrel
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They called Shenzhen a ghost city too, at one point.
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>>2738769
Apples to oranges. Shenzhen was a fishing village that grew into a manufacturing hub, not a bunch of empty high rises in the middle of a cornfield. Most of these things are going to be knocked down and the only way to make sense of it is to conclude that they were built to grease somebody's palm.
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>>2738767
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/even-chinas-14-bln-population-cant-fill-all-its-vacant-homes-former-official-2023-09-23/
it was the best form of investment in china for decades, and that's all falling apart now. factor in the declining population and you have a recipe for disaster
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Anywhere in Shanghai that has cool alleys like in Hong Kong?
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>>2740064
Shanghai particularly the FFC is full of cool alleys but they are 1) mostly residential ie no shops on the inside 2) totally different vibe/aesthetic than HK

They are quite nice places to get an apartment, or to wander around, but if specifically comparing to HK may not be what you're looking for

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Let me clarify I KNOW that all of SEA is not like this, but every tourist spot every nature spot that is within the radius of any town of decent size is completely riddled with garbage deforested, I've motorcycled all the way from Hanoi to Saigon, some parts further away from major centers were absolutely gorgeous, but any waterfall or nature spot near a city is a complete tourist trap at this point, the sad thing is I know these spots probably used to be gorgeous a decade or two ago.

I love a lot of things about SEA, I've been to Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore, I plan on going to Thailand, but this is making me so depressed, I often skip these spots, but every so often I go to give them a shot, without any expectations and I am usually disappointed anyway.

I am currently in Cambodia, I know if I had my own motorbike here I would probably be able to find a few of these, but I am also concerned to vear off of the tourist trail unlike vietnam theres a much higher chance of getting kindnapped here, and police are much more likely to stop you, never had issues in Vietnam over 2 months and 4500km driven.

So here are my questions:

1. Are there any SEA countries that buck the trend in this regard and actually preserve their nature?

2. What part of the world would be cheap and affordable with beautiful unpolluted nature (I'm European so outside of Europe).

3. When did this change, I know it didnt use to be like this maybe 20-30 yrs ago, when did this change?

4. What is your personal experience in regards to this.

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I was happy with how Taiwan cares for their natural areas. They are very meticulous with collecting trash.
>>2739809
Night markets are great, but it's ridiculous how much plastic waste results from the typical seven or eight purchases. A sitdown meal is much more eco friendly, although dishwashing and waste broth pollutes the waterways as well. So much of SEA does not have organized rubbish disposal, so it's a given that trash is going to get dumped somewhere random.
>>2739780
Untrue...you're just as likely to encounter rampant dumping in rural areas as in the urban slums. Where roads go, people build houses, and where people live, trash accumulates.
>>2739766
Thailand has many beautiful wild areas, but there are no trails because human presence would inevitably result in degradation. The would-be nature explorer finds himself facing an impenetrable thicket of brush that even if hacked back would regrow every rainy season. Asians still see the jungle as hostile, not as a retreat or a solace for man.
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>>2739766
>I can't speak for SEA
The thread is about SEA
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Ah, what an idyllic hillside village!
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Their backyard
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Taiwan is clean, maybe not Japan-tier clean but certainly meets western standards. Forest parks inside cities aren’t the trash heaps you’d expect, and I don’t remember seeing any piles of wind-blown rubbish behind any rural villages. It’s also very affordable to travel. It was one of the last regions in Asia to be settled by modern people, so there’s so much unspoiled wilderness, and it’s well looked after with numbers of hikers limited daily.

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Is it France? Where have you traveled with the best cheese anons?
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>>2739625
Roquefort is the true king of blue cheese
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>>2735509
If you enjoyed cheese to any moderately sophisticated level you'd know the answer to this question
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>>2735553
>"Regional cheese"
>It's yet another whitish, semi-soft unaged cow or goat's milk cheese

Brits will produce the same thing 3 steps away and call it something different, that's the only reason. I don't think England even *has* an equivalent to brie, feta, halloumi, parmesan, gouda, or anything with a unique character or purpose. It's always just "here's smooth/blue nibbling cheese #450"
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>>2735509
Greece has some of the best cheeses. They even make good vegan cheeses because Orthodox people fast and avoid during religious fasting.
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>>2740044
>vegan cheeses

Not cheese
I'm not saying they can't be good, I wouldn't know since I've never had any, I am also not saying I am against vegans or whatever
But vegan cheese is an absolutely impossible combination of word when cheese is literally dairy. It's as stupid as vegan meat.
Calling something vegan because it contains some animal products that have been removed such as a cake without egg sounds ok, but calling vegan products that are normally entirely made up of animal products will never not sound completely retarded to me

But well I guess it's just convenient to call them vegan cheese instead of cheese imitation and fake cheese is too negative so we're stuck with that

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Say you can never leave a time zone again. Which do you choose? For me it's close between SEA and Eastern US. Colombia can also be used for phlc adventures
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>>2740008
Difficult to compete with CET, desu. Basically the whole of Europe to play in. Shame the Africa choice is a bit shit though.
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>>2740008
Kiribati time zone. Ahead of everyone else, knowing the future before it's even happened to most of you.
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>CET
Most of Europe plus a few of the non-shitty parts of Africa
>CST
China, Eastern Mongolia, Taiwan, parts of SEA, and western Australia
Definitely one of these two. If it was just a travel restriction I'd pick CST, but I wouldn't want to live there. Living and travel only I'd go for CET.

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Is it too late to plan a trip to EU for post-thanksgiving? I have never traveled abroad but I am getting burnt out of my healthcare job and considering getting away for a few weeks. I am considering Prague, Salzburg, and somewhere in Italy/slovenia. Is it possible to wing this kind of thing and just stay at Airbnbs/hostels? I just ordered about 5k euros and was considering just getting a train pass and just going. Feel free to say I'm retarded.
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>>2738017
>I'd rather be told to fuck off than have to make awkward conversation with a stranger.
You don't actually have to talk to them. If anything, most of them would prefer if you didn't talk to them, and it's very unlikely they'll talk to you. In shared table establishments, it's very normal to ignore your seatmates and have the only person talking to you be the waiter.

I've shared many tables with many strangers, and in my decade or so of traveling, not one of them talked to me.
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>>2733718
I have done trains between prague and napoli. It's a long journey with train switches. You can go through germany or austria. I advise the latter bc munchen station is a mess and german efficiency is a lie. If you go to slovenia you need to train up to the border in italy and then get a bus. For xmas markets try nordics or baltics.
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>>2734044
I live in Tallinn and went last Saturday during the snow. It's small but delightful.
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>>2738206
I see also that you are also looking for citizenship. I did that there and have residence so ask me about it. You need a lot of documents and you need residence there so you need a visa or right to live there and you are better off knowing someone local. All documents must be apostilled and translated and that is notarised. You give them to the local town hall. They read it then add you to the database of residents. Your documents tell them you are already a citizen but not registered in the country yet. Take a photo and get your id. You could apply for a passport but shit if you aren't lucky like I was you won't even get an appointment to apply for many months. And this is done at a police station. You then wait and pick it up at a different office. You go to a lot of places and you need to speak Italian or bring a translator. Good luck
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>>2738209
What if you're already from the EU?
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>>2739888
Then what motivates one to bother with the process? In any case you still need residency in the country to do it there. Otherwise do it at your local consulate.

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Where can I get a decent price on a tiny apartment in Hong Kong? Everything on airbnb or even shitty hotels is like $200/night. Where can I find localish rates on a shitty apartment for 3 months?
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>>2739915
you need a chinese speaker to book it for you its cheaper
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>where do I find a cheap short-term rental as a non-Cantonese speaking tourist in the city with the most expensive real estate in the world

you don't. you pay out the ass for a shitty ass cage home like the natives
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>>2739957
they pay like $200/mo. Nobody is paying over $1k for a shitty apartment there.
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>>2739915
I just checked and you can book many hostels for like $27 a night or so. IMHO it’d be better than a tiny closet sized apartment in many ways since you have access to common areas and fellow tourists to socialize with.

What poor countries I can go to without being treated like a walking wallet just because I'm not brown?
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>>2740037
Moldova?
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>>2740037
Lemme get this straight, you want people not to be willing to do business with you? A man shows his character by his actions, not by his appearance. Looksfags are all buttboys.
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>>2740037
I went to Tirana, Albania recently. It’s one of the poorest countries in Europe and no one tried to scam me, steal or up the price because I was from a much wealthier country.,

Previous thread: >>2733169

Discuss Thailand travel here.
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>>2740107
Me and tight Thai teens communicate telepathically. This is why they’re now using studying euphemisms
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I wanna ask if there is anything else that I need to prepare before going to thailand??? I am very particular with internet speed should I go buy a sim or just find a fast internet speed hotel??
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>>2740082
Okay, so what's the alternative?
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>>2739948
The prices you quoted seem relatively high to my experience last year. How old and ugly are you? I will be there in Dec and Jan and will report back prices
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>>2740141
going to have to find other places on earth to go to. boomers are retiring and blowing their entire saving there, the worst of the worst millennials are there and the US & Europe's east asian manufacturing is relocating to SE asia, so the economy is as bad as it can get for what we want. you are just going to need to find new places on earth dude. period.

do not go to columbia. tons of faggots with apple iphones went there and because of the apple pay shit getting tied in with the credit agencies, IMF, airports, PoS and banks they're selling location data and purchase data (which are tightly related) and they saw all the americans going there in droves, informed the businesses via analytics data for sale, and they jacked the prices up as high as they can on a global scale. it wasn't even a gradual process. if you're a computer science guy, it's what's known as a first to front heuristic. start smashing people's iphones when you see them. also a lot of niggers started going to columbia, and they're the main carriers of STIs, so wherever they are, you should avoid; they'll leech of everything you've got going all day, every day.

>>2740143
im in my 30s, attractive, muscular, blue eyes, beautiful white skin.

i just got those prices fresh from my friend whose friend in there right now. and, i thought this was unbelievable, but a friend of mine went there a month after me and he said it was 4900 minimum; that was dec 2023, and from what i've heard; it has come down from that.


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