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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

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I want to draw lewd stuff or anime, but at the same time I feel repulsed by it. Just the whole culture of it, the tropes, I don't think I really want to be a part of it. It just disgusts me and I hate it. But at the same time, it's maybe the only thing I really want to draw oddly enough.
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>>6835929
>You first. You can't, you wont.
>He thinks I'm embarrassed to post my shitty scribbles
it's still WIP so feel free to shit all over it, Now you pyw.
>By your logic fapping to porn made by female hands is the same as having sex with them.
touche.
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>>6835936
No, I'm just the only one being honest. Other anons are fucking LARPing here.
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>>6835899
And?
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>>6835743
thanks zaddy
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>>6834480
>Do other artists feel this way?
You're the one feeling this way because you're a self hating slave-morality pathetic retard
>>6835743
>well
looks like garbage

How the fuck? Like, I can draw about anything from a reference, I know forms and anatomy and perspective and whatever, but when I try to draw anything from imagination, like a figure in a dynamic pose, it ends up being very wonky. Do I swallow the ref pill and just use refs for everything? What if I want to draw cartoons?
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Force yourself to draw from imagination and tell yourself you can. If you reach a stumbling point, FORCE yourself to finish it. Don't think "I can't draw this, I don't know how this should look," just finish it with something even if you know it looks wrong.

That said, that doesn't mean not to use refs. References are good to use, and if you're doing paid work, you'll probably have to use references. And you can use references even for highly stylized cartoons, though they might not help as much since even with a reference you'll have to apply more imagination to get the result you want.
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>>6835985
When you draw enough poses from references, you'll eventually start to see patterns, like say, an elbow will always bend like this, this joint only bends so far etc etc. Do that long enough, and you'll have a mental library of how every part of the body conforms to whatever pose you're thinking of. But this won't happen for a while.
tl;dr stop whining, keep drawing, and just keep using references until you don't need them anymore
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heh... no one draws without reference... "the imagination" is just cope for people that draw using references from their minds...
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>>6836010
This right here OP. You are going to have to draw a LOT to get to that point though so chop chop.
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Try drawing what you want quickly and roughly on cheap paper. You aren't trying to make a "real" drawing at this point, but feeling out the shape of things,the space they occupy, their stance and what they are doing. Explore their images,toss the indications of details, and usung previous versions as reference material for the next,refine the idea. Then,in a sketchbook, with good paper, do the first real drawings of these elements.

There are ways of approaching this creative process that results in a mostly finished work,something that you can leave alone and move on from. My own is to build a skeleton of the idea,and flesh it out with details,eventually breathing life into your creations. Not everything you draw needs to be an Official Drawing, but steps in a formula that you can apply to any art form. Like in my picture, it's more important to get anything onto paper, because you can develop these jots with more roughing. I was trying to capture the moment of intense pain, and I see the glimmerings of it.

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If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

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>>6836080
does she have 4 boobs or is she fat
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>>6836087
My guess is two boobs arranged vertically.
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>>6836080
>feel the form
i will never understand what this means
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Anyone know how I can "feel the form & volume"?
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pretend shes holding an ar15 and also pretend i didnt trace it and make slight changes and instead drew it all on my own

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Jujudrop I think your stuff is great. Can you share how you got into making what you make?
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>>6835272
I agree with the people that call you a bullshitter. You are either a bullshitter or deviantart is legit free money, you just post a fetish and you get cash instantly, no matter what quality the drawing. I just dont believe its that easy.
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>>6836055
Love shooting down people like you. Pic rel is from my DA earnings and heres link to my completed Pixiv Reqs https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/15802361/request

The trick is drawing what you yourself like, make yourself available to those into the same thing and let them see your knowledge, passion and skill in the subject. Also being welcoming and pleasant person helps a lot when marketing yourself :) If you want, feel free to DM me and I can help you marketing yourself too if you want. For monetary compensation or for drawing of Tifa and Aerith wrestling, of course.
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>>6836076
Yo juju, what are your thoughts on Rumble Roses, if any?
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>>6836100
Hohoho... I remember seeing the ad for it and knowing it will be the exact game for my fetish fuel :D When it finally came out and I went to buy it, I was all red on my face thinking the cashier knows exactly how I am a female wrestling degenerate and she would be judging me. To make the matter worse, she had trouble scanning it and needed to punch in the product code manually and it felt like an eternity when I was standing there. On the first week playing it, one morning my gf told I had grabbed her in my sleep, locked her legs open and fucked her sideways while sleeping through the whole ordeal.

So yes. I did enjoy Rumble Roses a lot.
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>>6832815
based

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>Guidelines:
1. [THE MOST IMPORTANT] Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox, Imgur, or any off-site that hosts images for your works.

2. Do not post child photo references, legal or otherwise. https://www.tiktok.com/@mentokunited/video/7210955441126313259

3. Due to this general's PPH (posts per hour/thread activity), please wait until the thread falls to around page 5 or 6 before making a thread. Use archived(moe) or warosu to retrieve the old threads.

4. Do not pretend to be retarded. For your sake.

>Lolicon Artists Directory & General Information
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/

>A training course on modesty for young ladies

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>>6835972
There isn't much to ctitisize but you are getting better with proportions and more confident with lines. Keep pushing
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>>6835632
Hard round + soft round. Bind your hotkeys to change softness and size on QWAS and try it yourself, you'll like it.
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>>6835696
>>6835453

My perfect hebe is hagu's Sasha
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>>6835972
you improved a lot
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>>6835494
Ah yeah, indeed, the perspective is stronger than I thought... Well I will give a try
Thank you for searching me the ref!

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IIT: Post /ic/ in a nutshell
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>>6833699
but how?
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>>6834440
kek!
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>>6833699
So like, take my hand... off? I need my hands!
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>>6833699
Thought the same until some guy made a thread and bitched when he was given most basic tasks.

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You should be able to draw this
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says who, you? fuck you.
I love art from artists who probably have difficulty with this, and although I could draw a very accurate study of this bust I prefer their art over my own.
The tired old arbitrary rules set by the beginners who attempt to lay claim to some small piece of merit in lieu of their own skill by instantly challenging those who were only moments ago in their position. But for the smallest amount of effort before setting up another checkpoint shortly down the road, they will forever be beholden to their own justified fears of being surpassed by those who are above the consumptive cycle of insecurity. The Hare was never confident in his nature, confidence is not folly. Your eyes will never be on the horizon if you insist on running laps around the tortoises and inevitably you will tire.
Bitch.
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>>6836058
I probably can, copying shit whether it be from a reference or irl isn’t hard. Actually building form from your head now that shit feels impossible for me. Picrel is a drawing I did compared to the original, not perfect but I got bored and rushed to finish it. But if you asked me to draw an anime character or compose a scene or even anything other then copy what’s in front of me I literally can’t.
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>>6836082
what the fuck

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i'll show you around and tell you about and with encounters i had with people
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>>6835327
It's too much for my brain
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>>6835372
yooo brazil mentioned!!
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>>6836026

my mom is from brazil. she died from covid
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>>6835393
>you fold the tape to make a tube, that way you will have adhesive on both sides, and you can stick to the wall and the back side, leaving the entire front side of the works clean and untouched.
Actual knowledge? ON 4CHAN?
nice
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>>6836028
Damn, that sucks. My condolences.

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If you're looking for a place to practice and post all sexual works, from pinups with exaggerated proportions to pornography, then this is the right general for you. Both Eastern and Western styles can coexist here.

>Rules & Guidelines
1) All forms of cartooning styles are welcome; submit and receive feedback from others.
2) Please resize your images below 1000x1000 before posting.
3) Share your knowledge, any tips are certainly welcome for all beginners.
4) Do to not be afraid of asking for critique, please be specific on what help you need.
5) Remember all GB3 related content such as LOLICON, SHOTACON, FURRY pornography, FURRY and BESTIALITY are banned on ALL boards, including red boards, except /b/ and /trash/. DO NOT post that content here.
6) DO NOT reply to AI bait posts. Report and hide, then let the janitors and moderators deal with the problem.

>Community Resources
>>>/ic/courses
>>>/ic/artbook

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>>6830682
how can you be this good and not know what to do with the collarbone
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>>6830682
perspective is a bit off. also in this position the elbows should be pointing upward.
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>>6836040
everything was fine with the perspective, its just strange that the middle of her ribcage starts over her armpit
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>>6836046
>everything was fine with the perspective
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>>6836108
Learn how perspective works, state of zoomers filled nu /ic.

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2024 is almost here, 1 Year went by, you did made some progress right? you aren't a permabeg right, POST YOUR 2023 FUCKING WORK !!!
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I'm looking forward to the progress thread in december so I can see how far I've come with my goal of 12 finished pieces this year
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>>6835989
Damn, nice linework!
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It's been 10 years and I've actively gotten worse. this unironically might be my breaking point
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>>6817633
keep it up anon!

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I CAN'T DRAW
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>>6836068
Welcome to the club, you fit right in. Also, sexy horse.
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HOW DO I DRAW
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>>6836068
it's alright anon, just remember in the beginning there's no good or bad, just being & becoming.
give it time, you have to let it go and go with the flow.
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>>6836103
What kind of paper is that

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How do I get paid for art without either having to reveal my full legal fucking name or inconvenience buyers? Literally every fucking service out there reveals your name. Why does Kofi even exist if it's just going to do everything through paypal and let them dox you?
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>>6834899
Go to sleep, grandpa
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>>6834892
you literally can't leave. If you built a rocket to fly away you'd be stopped by the us government.
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>>6834850
In the US, I think that the only way would be to file your business as a LLC, because then you HAVE to get a DBA since you can't use your name for that. Then you have to register your business in Delaware or New Mexico(?) for it to be the cheapest and to offer yourself the most anonymity.

This costs way more money upfront and to maintain than a Sole Prop. Also, if you are a single member LLC then you still have to file your taxes as if you were a sole prop.

I mean someone can find you if they probably really want to do, but I think, so far, that's could be a possibility for you, but you WILL have to pay taxes on whatever income you make. Also, you can write off any related expenses.
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I use Pixiv and Deviant Art in-site commission services for that. Your client won't see your info and you won't see your client's info as the site is being the middle man and neither party can scam each other over
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>>6835061
What if you live somewhere else like uhhh North Africa :)
Also is that why many artists just put their irl names now? I always wondered why the change

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I’m very rusty, trying to get warmed up again with some figure drawings. Figured that we could draw together. It could be fun

Post your figure drawings
Share figure drawing resources
Post references and cool poses to draw
Draw at least 100 figures
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>>6835195
I think you need to stop this quick study shit and apply yourself more because you can easily end up staying at this skill level for years with this kind of mental masturbation. What youre doing right now is largely useless and mindless. If its fun then go for it. But if you want to get better it will take some brain power. Pick one to three poses and repeat them over and over till they look somewhat okay. Take some time but dont spend ages on it, one hour max. Trust me its so much more satisfying. GL
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>>6835295
Thank you for the wake up advice. Of course I'd like to get better. I'll follow what you said and try post some more results. When you mean repeat the pose do you mean in all fields? (silhouette, gesture, anatomy, form, shadow, line, etc etc) or should I specify into one field more than the other? Sorry if the question is a little dumb
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>>6835317
Line and gesture arent something to practice in isolation ever in my opinion. You pracitce that stuff passively no matter what you draw. Find drawings you like and try to be like that using your own brain. All the bs online course exercises dont work and are made to make students feel like they are getting better, but they are at the EXACT. SAME. SKILL. LEVEL. Good luck and have fun, seriously.
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>>6832791
dusted off the ol' surface go and went with some digital figs today

>>6832907
I can go the distance!

>>6832921
Thanks, no socials at the moment. Maybe when I get better.

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>>6834755
Great as always, do you ever do any work with harder lines? The shading always looks great, just wondering what your next steps look like.

>>6834919
take your time, it's not a race.

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Another NMA figure drawing video. Same model as the last one. Longer session tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXad-Iauzw

>>6835485
>Great as always, do you ever do any work with harder lines?
Thanks, you can see some longer ones in this one. But still not enough time for the Huston style charcoal rendering I'm going for. Hopefully I can get a bit quicker and fully render them like in these studies I did. >>6806863 Although copying a drawing is a lot easier.
Your faces are really cute and the expressions are great. Also love the stylized anatomy.

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If I only want to draw anime girls would it be worth learning how to draw anime boys first due to their easier, more obvious anatomy?
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>>6835838
Both have the same amount of "obvious anatomy" - they're just styleized cartoons.
People who like drawing anime girls get better at it by just drawing anime girls, and they are known for their anime girls.
People who like drawing anime boys get better at it by drawing anime boys, and they are known for their anime boys.

Just draw your waifus bro
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>>6835838
I don't have many problems drawing men
I can't draw women at all, they always look wrong because I'm so used to drawing men.

If you don't draw it you won't get better at it
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>>6835961
Copying isn‘t even the issue, plenty of managkas got started by copying their favorite manga. What is an issue though is both that most of them don‘t do it nearly enough and that they do so with all the mindfullness of a robot.
Just copying the lines so that they match the original with very little thought put into why they‘re there in the first place.
Also no soul.
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>>6835838
>If I want to draw X, should I learn Y instead?
Why are people so retarded
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>>6836091
99% of western art advice is exactly that
half the reason shit like drawabox is popular is people being weirdly afraid to just jump into the deep end and draw what they actually want


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