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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

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And don't forget to HEED THE RULES

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Examples of Artists getting worse over time.

While I don't like the head/chin ship of the previous, I hate how she draws now.
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>>2997053
Oh hey I know that artist.

Yeah, I really dislike the direction they've gone, but their sense of flow,and expression has gotten better. The style itself is shite though, and I particularly hate how every single nose they draw is that weird box
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>>2997053
>Anime
>good art

Choose one
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>>2997053
her 2012 is kinda charming with all its mistakes, the 2017 is very punchable
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>Bust ass for months with constant, focused studying
>Get nowhere
>Take months off from drawing
>Get better

Don't ask me how the fuck it happened.
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>>3001458
>is a good artist himself
>thinks anime can't be good

Choose one.

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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint


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>>3001438
Here are some shapes from imagination >>3001336
It's completely fucking useless.
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>>3001442
I'll stick to drawing cups and bowls then
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>>3001438
>>3001442

Just because one anon does it wrong doesn't mean it's useless. If you can't draw a cube from imagination, you don't know perspective. If you don't know perspective, your observation drawings are probably going to be wonky anyway (and even if they're good, it's an exercise in copying rather than understanding if you can't replicate perspective from imagination). If you can't conjure a shape from imagination, how are you supposed to simplify the forms of your subject? Using shapes you don't even know how to draw?

The correct answer is "do both".
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>>3001461
>If you can't draw a cube from imagination, you don't know perspective.
And drawing from imagination won't help you in this case. Otherwise if you do know the perspective and can draw various shapes from imagination, you don't have to sit like an autist and do something that you already know how to do in hopes that you'll somehow become better. Like, at what? Your lines will be straighter?
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>>3001481
Tbqh shitting down a lot of boxes quickly might be a good way to improve lines

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I'm insterested to draw in this type of drawing: Ligne Claire.

For more detail about this style: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligne_claire

Any recommendation? I used traditional media to make the lines (pencils, rotring marker. Sometimes i used photoshop to review the drawn lines). After this i used photoshop or letraset marker to add the color.

Artists references? Hergé, of course. Winsor McCay, Moebius, Ozamu Tezuka, Walter Crane... etc.

Let's discuss about that.

Thanks (And sorry for my English.)

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>>3001341
bump with another reference: Winsor McCay Little Nemo in Slumberland.
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>>3001341
You may want a mapping nib if you're seeking to emulate McCay's look. It would look good in combination with watercolours but I haven't tried it yet.
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Fundamentals. Fundamentals out the ass. Without line weight, heavy blacks or fancy rendering you have nothing to hide behind.

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So, what is /ic/ opinion on tracing?
When is right when is wrong?
when is tracing and when is just reference?
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>>3001447
>>3001456
No, you guys have clearly never traced before.

There are many ways to trace, and it all depends on what you want.

Sometimes you just gotta use tracing to get a very tricky construction on a figure, or the perspective on an urban landscape.

Thus, you take a photograph, and you loosely sketch the lines over the photograph to get what you need. You then take that, and transform things to suit your scene.

You draw a semi-rough sketch while tracing, and use that as your underlay for whatever you're gonna make. This is perfectly fine, as you're not taking from something else 1:1 and you still apply your knowledge of the fundies to create something unique.

The only time you should ever be tracing 1:1 is when inking your own drawings.
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>>3001466
IT'S CALLED USING A REFERENCE, RETARD.

Tracing is a very specific technique, where you literally draw over the lines in a reference, it's not always wrong either, just another tool.

But not all use of reference is tracing, try to get that in your thick head.
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>>3001472
Putting your paper over a photograph, and drawing over it = tracing.

Only a literal retard would trace something 1:1. This is what shows me that you're still a beginner.
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>>3001478
>Putting your paper over a photograph, and drawing over it = tracing.
This is exactly what I told you, you learn fast, mys tudent.

>Only a literal retard would trace something 1:1. This is what shows me that you're still a beginner.
No rules, only tools.
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>>3000888
Very stilted as a kind of patchwork technique. It's funny because a lot of artists are still learning on the job, at least he's getting paid. It's better to use softer lead and search around for your composition than it is to trace.

I think Rockwell was justified in using cameras, projectors and drafting trace paper... He took his own photographs and altered his compositions on canvas. It seems very elaborate but look at the results, I'd rather have one of his oil paintings than the pictures he took!

I have a blog where I post my work. However, only a small fraction of the work I produce come out satisfactory(10%) and as a result I don't update much. And because I only produce successful drawings that sets higher expectations for future me. Which leads me to my next question? Is there any benefit for posting your failures and keeping it stored somewhere as opposed to deleting it?
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>>3001403
Yeah I just upload it all.

Your recent failures sting, but looking back at even the most hideously botched projects after a few years gives you nothing but some fond memories.
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If you know why its shit, just work on it. I don't see any point to upload stuff unless for critique.
Unless you enjoy having an art improvement blog or try to gather a following with fanart or at least finishef pieces I don't see why you'd upload loomis heads on a blog. (I don't get LAS either)
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I post everything I do, maybe it will inspire someone else out there.
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>>3001403
In my opinion it is good to keep everything you do, but you don't have to post every piece of shit online.
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I upload 90% of what I do on my tumblr, I'm a bit more selective with my instagram and deviantart (more because I'm too lazy to post everything I do on every platform). The other 10% are usually the stuff I scrapped pretty early in. Even the stuff I disliked enough to avoid posting I usually end up posting on slow days where I have nothing else to upload.

The anxiety about posting subpar stuff went away when my shitty art consistently got more notes than the stuff I was really proud of, which was kind of infuriating but also just a reminder that I'm my own worst critic and most people don't think very hard about it. I'm sure posting some subpar stuff has lost me a follower or two, but I think it's gained me more than it's lost me, normies seem to love unrefined shit.

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He created the xenomorph and other amazing creatures. One of the best artworks ever created?
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>>3001434
>it all looks like was made by edgy 13 year old
you don't think it's because all the edgy 13 year olds are trying to emulate him
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>>3001434
No edgy 13 year old has a unique visual language like HR giger, and how is there no "artism" in his art? Also just from a technical perspective his work just looks very skillfull.
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>>3001449
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>>3001473
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>>3001475

what are some recommended tutorials on how to draw faces/ expressions
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>>3001462
Andrew Loomis.
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>>3001468
thank you hopefully i don't fuck this up

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How do I animate like this? It's pretty cool for a silly meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93sjwnNPg4g
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Obviously you need talent anon
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>>3001441
Yeah but obviously just making some characters in Blender won't suffice.
I just wish I would stop procrastinating.
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>>3001410
Ask Russia
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>>3001452
Yeah I heard Putin hacked the person that made this.

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Can we have an AA thread from the perspective of ic? There's always one in cgl, but I'm curious to get ic's experience, since most of you don't see anime as real art.

Have any of you ever done it before? How much did you make? Did you do any "cheating" because you didn't care (trace, quantity over quality, ect.)?
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In a recent One Fantastic Week episode Pete Mohrbacher was talking about how he was finally convinced to up his print prices at cons from $25 to $30 because other artists were charging $40-$60 per print. So, don't sell yourself short I guess.

But why bother with all that shit when you can get Patreon and Kickstarter bux.
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>>3001320
>because other artists were charging $40-$60 per print
Were these artist printing on gold or were they DaVinci brought back from the dead?
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>>2999132
not true. interested in you =/= paying for a poster.
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>>3001323
I'm guessing they were probably artists who can actually draw and don't live with their mom.
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>>3001426
I wouldn't buy a 60 dollar print from anyone at a con, I don't care how good they are

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why arent ther a good art server in discord??

all the time i go to a new one is red matsumoto and her stupid chibi shit that have more proportions problems than any sycra work.
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>>2999692
Interested

Lampiour#7436
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>>2999692
Me too please.
Not at home so can't scan any recent work but here's a painting from a while back.

indrikk#0196
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>>2999692
I'm interested, i'm also a beginner animator
Sadcats2007#5097
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>>3001252
>>3001316
>>3001373
I've sent you guys contact requests and will give you an invite
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>>2999348
Ah yes, Red Matsumoto with her fucking RP friends. :^)

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Tips for costume design?
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>>3001393
Mediums are important because this will give you the patterns of your character.
Take a look at good ol' knight over here. The mediums on him would be the red crosses, and his chainmail.

And finally, the large spaces, still on the knight because I'm lazy and don't want to go find another example. The Large spaces on this dude would be the cloth tunic, his shield, and arguably his helmet.

The importance of large ares is that they give the audience somewhere to rest. These rest areas typically shouldn't have patterns on them, and should stay the same colour if they're in the same area
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>>2999383
Was there any need to use the word cuck here?
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>>3001398
>The mediums on him would be the red crosses, and his chainmail
u wot?
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>>2999383
there used to be a fuckhuge collection of asian jap magazines on some chink site, but now it's dead and all others that I could find are paywalled or obvious scam, anyone knows good resources for them? Not just street fashion pics or whatever, but actual magazines, I like to steal ideas about poses and composition from their photoshoots, not to mention the actual outfits.
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>>3001464
>*jap and other asian

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What do you think of this?
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stop painting me
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>>2999172
You can't stop me!
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>>2999157
I think...............
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satan.
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>>2999176
Wtf
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>>2999176
And gaahl also paints, strange...

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This print was given to me framed by my father when I moved into my first house. He got it from my great aunt who cleaned houses for a living. She cleaned the home of Russell Bufalino in the 80s. The story goes that when he got convicted he told her to take the Picasso because he had to let her go so sudden. I'm not sure how true this is because it happen before I was born. There is some information on the back but right now I'm storing it back at my parents house. Once I'm back I'm going to post the info is on the back. Does anyone know any information on this particular work of his being printed? I think it is from the 60's but I'm not 100% positive.
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>>2996552
>>2996559
>>2996564
Until you can provide actual proof of your claims, your theory is invalid, much more so than the actual accepted story.
>>2996572
>the "loser who has no evidence" compromise.
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it's true. I am your father.
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Picasso?

I call him pig asshole.
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>>2999338
Well, you can't disprove it either.
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>>2997947
wtf i love him now

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General art rating, post your art, rate out of 10.

Rate my art:
https://ourartcorner.com/works/Jankovic
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14/88
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>>3000431
professional? you must have low standards for professionals.

Im a beginner.
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Here ya go.
I redrew a whole Moebius book, but with Peanuts characters. Was a good exercise.

https://jorionblog.wordpress.com/
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>>3001149
wtf I would pay for this what a weird idea.
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>>3000332
>>3000431
>>3000444
cringe



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