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Is there a way to pirate the mobile version of CSP so you can bypass having to make monthly payments? If it was a one time thing I'd be fine paying, but renting a drawing app is ridiculous to me. The only thing keeping me from selling my Ipad and getting a Movinkpad is that Procreate is a one time purchase
Yeah for like, version 1. All other versions after that require an active sub. I suppose you could do like an, a crack on your desktop and then stream it to your mobile device via some software mirroring, but, atp, just use desktop. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K0rB2X3fQz-APrDDZl9a2CGHCJ1uWkRE/view
>>7979759ohhh you're on ios. Yeah nvm idk what there is for ios. Just buy procreate. It's pretty good for what it is. Stop wasting your money on a CSP sub.
just get procreate then. its better anyways.
>>7979800I'm asking about this because I'm thinking about getting a Movink tablet instead. It's just that having to pay rent for CSP is a dealbreaker for me>>7979815I like Procreate's UI but it's definitely not better than CSP. They prioritize having that really nice UI over all other features and it leads to them overlooking basic shit like having a triangular color picker for example
>>7979759What ipad are you thinking of selling and what version of the Movinkpad are you planning to buy? Because it could be a decent swap if this is a point of frustration, but it all depends on the models, otherwise procreate + ipad looks like the nobrainer
The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.Previous thread: >>7962838Some resources:/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asgBooks:Understanding Comicshttps://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/Making Comicshttps://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255dComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7979111that sentence probably sounds deep and meaningful if you are mentally retarded
>>7979832Yawn.
>>7979509I just downloaded the whole series. I'm going to study this and fix my shitty face construction!
>>7979843DO NOT ACTUALLY DO THISI don't need the competition. Stay bad at whatever you're not good at.
>>7979628>>7979808Pretty sure both of these pages were penned by Albert Dorne, who mostly worked in advertising, but has a certain storytelling to his art I think we could all learn from. He could tell with a picture what it takes me a whole page to communicate, he's REALLY good. It's tragic he died so young; this book was one of his last works.>>7979843Hell yeah, anonI'd recommend doing the studying in bits and pieces - despite the name, I've never used the famous artists course as a course, and it's designed for people who were trying to enter the art industry over half a century ago, rather than the modern artist. This is one of the good things about the book - that it's very practical, and concerned with actually getting work done for clients on a deadline - but also means it's necessarily like homework and covers a lot of things that the modern artist might not care about.That's a good thing in a way though - this book really is comprehensive, it has everything. I flip through it sometimes and find things I've never seen before. It's 945-some pages, though I mostly use pages 150-250. I've been studying the face section since late 2020.
1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)Previous thread: >>7911756
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>>7979294Thanks, maybe that anon will come back.
>>7979565Absolutely beautiful. Makes me happy that Gry was also well received.Thanks anon. I really love the blue.
>>7977485>>7977871thank you so much guys point out some characters and ill draw urs
>>7979796Already animated mine, thank you.
Previous thread >>7972596The site:>Link: https://dad.gallery>Discord: You must have at least 14 submissions on DAD to join. Message vastian0988 on Discord for an invite.>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.Rules:>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission>No loli or shota porn>Miss a day and womp womp, you're back to zero, but just keep going!>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!>Have fun!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Caught some dinner... I'm gonna come home and draw I think.
>>7979775whoa. amazing shot. where is this?>like..country and enviro?actually this is so cool that if it’s desert-y or gravelly wilderness scrubland i’d love to do a quick study of it if you snap a shot.>we’re almost knee deep in wild rabbits here too, but they’re the little grey-brown ball of fluff sort.man this is really cool though. the sunset colors are beautiful.
man lying down now and my heart is still racing
>>7979220post it on dad pussy
>>7979830In the name of not removing the fun of geotagging me, I'll say hardiness zone 9a if you are one of the few who recall. The sunsets out here are wonderful, though I fucked off long before I thought to snap anything. I was coming down from one of my calcedony hauls, don't want anyone knowing my secret spot -_^>amazing shotYpu might find it more amazing to know I did this with a cheap air rifle, .22 pellet, 70~ yards out without ironsights or a scope. Honed it down to a pretty good instinct and Lord spared my good eye.
Why You Should Copy Anime:https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpgNaoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw**Strive for quantity AND quality.**Anime Studying:>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
This thread is more dead than my social media accounts. Jesus christ. Sad.
Hi /asg/ its been a while. Its been a month since my last UI's styled Watame drawing progress lol. Anyway this progress, I draw her horn, gave some shading on her right side of her hair, and fix her chin's proportion (might improve it later). Anyway this is my progress for this week (i'll try give progress every monday)
so what's the /asg/ approved anime head construction method?
>>7974790Every single panel that looks decent in that was copied directly from a Tsutomu Nihei comic
>>7979846Anime Loomizor uh hide_channel
>draw fan art of [current popular thing] or something with nintendo>get frontpaged
>>7972411I got frontpaged drawing a character of mine, that made me happy
>>7979433>killed newgrounds.How?I never used newgrounds.
>>7979546>(and 4chan) in the 2010'sthe /lgbt/ board was made in 2013
I made a NG profile just for fun>post drawings>nothing for a week>post a single drawing of a woman>instantly scouted>drawing sitting on 5 score within the hour>get 3 whole followers within 10 minutes>post more drawings>nothingyup, time to delete it
>>7972411That's just social media in general, even moreso since covid when anime and gacha went full mainstream.Just draw currently popular gacha/seasonal anime character in sexy outfit or meme/reference redraw.Don't even bother with backgrounds or drawing them in their original outfits.Add some "the joke is sex/drugs" and you are good.
Twitter suspended my 2 yr old art blog
>>7956846>just use another centralized corporate platform but with 1% as many users most of whom post about nothing except how much they hate the platform they splintered off How about no?
My account got suspended again, and this time to recover it they are asking me for my fucking face, I tried just with my hand but it doesnt go through, this is bullshit.I am going to just make a new account, shame about the old handle, I liked it a lot, but I am not going to give my face to peter thiels satanist empire.And if that account dissappears too, well, I guess my Twitter journey just ends, I am going to stay on Pixiv and pray from there.
>>7979732Just ai generate a fake face you idiot
>>7979732they'll just end up asking for your face again
>>7979761Doesnt work =)Doesnt even work with Google images photos either.>>7979852Yeah I guess youre right.Fucking hell man.
Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.Just keep them art related.Previous: >>7963461
10 threads on the catalog right now were started by me.I'm keeping this place alive.
>>7979291Ragebaiting is not keeping the place alive, it's killing it.
Why do I have to suffer so much?
What’s a normal amount of anger to have when drawing?
>>7979848You are supposed to be having fun drawing. Only on /ic/ does someone manage to somehow turn it into a problem.
As a beginner, I have been looking at this for days now, trying to make sense of these sketches. But none seems to work. Every once a while either it'd be>incorrected head shapes, too big, too long, too wide>wrong proportions of the facial features> eyes too small, too big, doesn't follow the form of the headMaybe this is too advanced for me? Can i anyone help me where to start to understand this better?
>>7979731if you look at the video from the previous thread that originated this discussion, you'll notice that the 'cylinder' is just the ellipse that shows head orientation, quickly replaced by the hard angle of the eyeline and earlinehttps://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0079/52/1780069948729806.mp4you might be focusing too much on the drawn explanation instead of the thought process
>>7979781Oh, I see. Yes, I have seen that video before.>you might be focusing too much on the drawn explanation instead of the thought processYes, I am autism. THank you.
>>7979683ok now let's see anons heads
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>>7979731>they NEVER start with the cylinders like what you did hereWell, I'm sure they're much better than me and don't need to start with a cylinder, or a circle. That's the thing though. Everyone is strong at something, and that's why their methods are different, or they assume certain things that might be too optimistic. I happen to suck. So I look for and formulate methods that work for people who suck.If you look past how most construction methods begin, and just look at where they end, they all arrive at roughly the same proportions. In my opinion, Loomis face construction is actually quite difficult, but the larger points are the same as mine - eye line in the center of the entire head, lateral eyes and nose lines that divide the face into quarters, a ear that begins roughly in the center of the profile, etc. I just do those things first.I can't imagine doing the ball and cross method in an overhead or underhead view. How do you know how long to make the cross in a repeatable way? I can't figure it out. I'm sure others can. But do people here actually think about that question? About how to keep lengths of the face consistent in foreshortened views? I don't know.Likewise, when it comes to drawing the body, I've advocated not measuring things out with the head, but simply deciding on an absolute height, dividing it, and using that midpoint as the crotch. Then you can divide however you want depending on how many heads tall you want the body to be. I think that's finally getting notice here because it was in some Asian course/book, but I've advocated that for years here. It makes no sense to me that people would do such a tedious thing as measuring out head lengths for every body part, but again, that's just me. Someone probably has the talent to do it.
Hi everyone! It’s me, it’s me, it’s F-F-P! Coming at you live (not really) and I NEED YOUR HELP.So for context, this is my favourite OC, Blanche. Her design has changed quite a bit over the years as I got more serious and developed her personality and story more. However, most people I’ve spoken to actually prefer the old design. It does have that lowest common denominator of being more traditionally attractive than the current design, but I really do think the new one fits her lore better. As an artist, I want to portray my own visions faithfully to myself but I cannot lie when I admit that my audience and colleagues opinions hold sway over me a bit. The allure of popularity and/or minor fame is intriguing.Before I ask my question formally, here’s some background on the character:Blanche is a dragon-person who, as an egg, was stolen away by a mischievous demon, and gifted to an enslaved underground people as a prophesied saviour-like figure that would free them. This promise would lead these underground people to raise her as a living weapon and a goddess. They gave her brutal martial training in secret but also sacrificed their resources to ensure she would grow big and strong, entrusting all their hopes and dreams into her. This leads Blanche to becoming a little apathetic to the underground world, begrudgingly doing as she was told since it was all she was taught and knew. After freeing the enslaved people from their oppressors, they installed her as the primary goddess of their society and relegated her to sitting in a temple most the time, sacrificing and praying to her. Because of her status, she makes no personal connections with anyone. Now she dreams of returning to the above ground world she’s only heard about in myth and legend.So now my question is thus: How can I merge these two designs into the best version of the character it can be? Any and all thoughts welcome, rude and genuine! I’m in a real pickle!Thank you.
>>7967982You're retarded so it's obvious that you won't listen to shit. Morbidly obese men or women aren't attractive and never will be for good reason. If you're stupid enough to get that big due to negligence of your body and diet then you either change your lifestyle or be barred from being allowed to reproduce. Talk to any normal human or even the average channer and you would get told the same thing.
I envy ypur creatove energy, even though I don't jive woth your art. Keep at it.
>>7974795Thanks for the input but what's that have to do with the colours? >>7974854I appreciate it, Anon! What kind of art do you jive with, if you don't mind me asking?
>>7964155In case anyone is interested, this is sorta what I ended up with. Idk if it shows that well but I tried putting more scarring on her. I also just felt like keeping the jaguar spots on the fur as it looked really plain without. I think it's mostly my rendering skills that make it look that way. I need to practice more with that so the skin also doesn't look so shiny. IDK. I'm happy enough with it. At least it's ready for Art Fight lol
>>7979839why is she giving be bowser vibes
Because keeping your digital art is /ic related.So based on the last thread>>7946553I think I need to make some myth busting.Because /ic/ knows shit about technology>>7960066>>7949475>More parts=More points of failure.>I don't know how you don't understand this part.>Your caveat "Leave it at safe ground level" is offset by my caveat "plug the SSD every couple months to recharge">Both caveats accounted for, SSD will live longer.>>7949158Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7979131just use AI for tech support questions
>>7979141Well considering that OP made this thread and has clearly thought about this problem a lot more in depth than I had, I figured that they would be able to give me their personal suggestions.
Just in caseIf you're some kind of shill, and you're trying to astroturf a "how do you save your data" general on /ic/, kindly fuck off.If you want to get good at drawing, first and foremost you need to build a habit and start learning. The shiny new tablet isn't going to make you a better artist, nor is having an archive of all the horrible figure drawings you did. The value isn't in keeping them around, the value is in having done them.Archiving is something for professional-level artists to worry about, which is to say, at most 1% of us.That said, if you're just doing this as a one-time thing because you wanted to share some knowledge, that's based.
>>7979141>AIAre you fucken retarded?AI will literally hallucinate and FUCK you over.>Hur dur ask chat GPTWhere do you retards come from?
>>7979835>Are you fucken retarded?>AI will literally hallucinate and FUCK you over.Just like you can use wikipedia for looking up when a president was born or died, you can also use chatbots for basic tech questions.I asked it to list me functions that do specific things in a programming language and got a reply that worked. If you use it as a glorified search engine it can work pretty well. You still need your own brain, lmao. Maybe that's your issue.
>many boards have art threads (such as /v/)>most people will post actual art, sometimes /ic/ artists will do free content out of desire/practice>inevitably 2 or 3 faggots start posting their ai slop and trying to change the conversation to "what model do you use" etc>despite the entire thread telling them to fuck off, they will get angry, call you a tranny or a newfag and double down on posting aiHow the fuck do we deal with this? /ic/ Is mostly safe but the other boards are beyond fucked. It's only a matter of time until every thread here is infested with this shit.
>>7976711You won't see them here because requesting with refs is forbidden on this board.I'm not Botfag but I am more than familiar with juju's antics of being a major crab and trying kill any drawthread with his slander here and to new artists in drawthreads because he's got a massive hate boner for them for years because anons always dogpile on him over his mid wrestling art and bragging how much money he makes by taking comms. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't have a massive ego about himself, but hes does, so he has to take his lumps. No matter how you try and word criticism to him, he will deem you as a hater or "Botfag" because he's a mindbroken turd.
>>7976967Pyw, fellow artist
>>7977562Cope, juju.
>>7976087>4 images takes 5 minutes on a decent computerAre you on drugs, or your setups are just that shit? My illustrous takes like 10s per one picture. With upscaling its maybe 30s.
report them within the art threads, the jannies should know how the boards inner thread cultures work around this and deal with itand then delete your whiner thread
Did anyone's sales get affected by AI yet? I still have hopes of doing comms one day.
>>7975535Ah, so you're poor AND autistic. The worst kind of client to have. Thank god AI took that one for the team.
>>7978094true this, no AI art can ever get you any properly edgy art, it can't do Brom, Diterlizzi or even early 90s/00s fantasy art shit that's always the best, its when art peaked.
>>7971524This can work in reverse too, whenever you mention ai you summon swathes of anti-ai retards screeching about water usage, ip rights (fucking lmao) or any other retarded idea.A silent picture throws them into a frenzy.So who's the shill who's trying to stop proliferation?
I just spent like 20+$ on this trad drawing of my angel oc I first came up with using "zhe dreaded ey ay". And the artist fucked up her eyes, but whatever.Personally, AI made me appreciate trad art more, and I stopped caring about digital art. I might even commission some artist to draw entire series of trad pics of my characters. But I definitely WON'T commission pixels on a screen, lmao.Paper supremacy.
>>7979831This was her reference btw. It was a convention so I guess I can cut her some slack, but cmon, the eyes are like 90% of her visual identity.
I've always wanted to try and learn how to do art, always thought artists were cool and always thought art was amazing. For some reason I added around like a retard and never actually bothered to try. I finally do, at 30, and I offer to make a character a friend has after encouragement from a bunch of anons.I spend what feels like forever on this and it ends up looking like dogshit. A child would have drawn something better. And I'm fucking 30. Do I just have the opposite of talent? If my life is half over should I stick to just doing nothing meaningful as I always have? I saw someone else also draw this character in the same amount of time as I did and it actually looks amazing, my garbage looks offensive in comparison.
>>7979733I'm generalizing and there are always exceptions to every rule. But highly skilled people are often also very busy people. So it's very difficult to find a mentor who can pass down anything valuable to you, unless you are truly a beginner with zero knowledge, in which case you'll find plenty of mentors but you'll outgrow them very quickly. One other note: I have noticed that valuable mentors are very busy, and they value their time, so you have to be someone who is serious and able to demonstrate that they're not going to waste their time by mentoring you.
>>7979261You'll never be as skilled as someone who started early (like me), but you can achieve a hobbyist level if you don't listen to the advice given here and watch that guy piew diepie videos and copy his method.
I'm so tired of retards whining about how a child could've done it better. Children are absolute dog shit at drawing. Only those who keep at it until they stop being retarded and focus a big chunk of their youth on improving the skill actually make it.
>>7979261If you want to improve at drawing, you need to do it in a logical way. Spend a week just drawing lines and then spend another drawing shapes. Spend two weeks grinding forms.Then grab a copy of DRSB and do the exercises.
>>7979261Keep trying and failing for a few years and not a few hours. Also don't bother comparing yourself to others. You have no talent, so learning will take you significantly longer than average. You're in good company though, many people here don't have talent. Just don't expect to draw anything decent for the next 5-10 years. It will be a hard and slow grind, but you will improve.
