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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

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Is anyone else extremely picky about their working environment?

I've found that ever since I moved into this new apartment, I havent been able to concentrate on drawing at all.
My neighbor doesnt work, is most likely partially deaf and shrieks over her phone whenever shes home. Shes constantly in and out, will leave for five minutes, stomp around the house for ten, and leave another five minutes, several times a day, shrieking loudly over the phone and slamming doors so hard it shakes the entire building and rattling windows. Then her son comes home and yells at her and smokes pot in the driveway while his friends blast rap music at 10,000 decibels. It's like living next door to a circus.

Also my drawing table is tiny and I cant get proper arm movements in the limited space.
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>>3906117
it's a lot cheaper in the country though. you don't need your own ranch and mansion on 100 acres. just an acre and a shitty used trailer for 20k 15 miles out of town. there, you get your peace and quiet and maybe a vegetable garden.
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>>3906086
pro tip: make your neighbor scream every day when she's alone at home. Or are you implying that she hasn't been sending you secret invitation signals by slamming the door hardly?

You need to able to read peoples emotions as an artist
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>>3906108
Fun image to explore. That book on the steps gave me a chuckle.
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>>3906103
This desu got my deaf neighbor to stop shrieking
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>>3906086
>DOES ANYBODY ELSE MAKE EXCUSES FOR THEIR POOR DISCIPLINE
>BLA BLA MY NEIGHBOR
>also here's an actual problem that may be the source of my woes
make your braincells work for once retard

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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3903298

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

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>>3905958
Oh dear, its time to give up drawing for you
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>>3906111
pyw
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Need help with scott Robertson ellipse method. I know where direction the minor axis is supposed to point but how do I know where to place it before drawing the ellipse?
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>>3905903
hows your process? i think it seems like you dive too quickly into specific areas instead of making sure your outline is on because i dont think your figures are quite right. also, use a sharper, harder pencil.
>>3906011
i think it's good, everything's good except the face. also i guess this fellow is meant to look like he has shoulded(?) shoulders right? but even his shoulderpards look shoulded(?). I think it you were good you'd be able to make him look slouchy(?) while still letting his armor look like its acutally got structural integrity. put some effort into hands and feet, and the kneecaps need attention too.
>>3906030
impressive. too much focus on tedious detailing, too little focus on creating interest with shading and perspective, though.
>>3906136
sorry, no idea
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>>3905903
>>3905904
Check Vilppu studio head anatomy and construction

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That looks interesting, can you explain it.
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>>3906088
Not bad, I like the tonal composition.

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OH NONONONONONONO looks like your days are counted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW1_Sidq3m8
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>>3905919
People probably said something similar about digital art when all illustration was done traditionally.
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>>3905905
yeah it already exist it called photobash
even with this tool people still need skilled photobasher to finish their product
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>>3905905
It can only do one thing though
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Yes, technology will completely will soon become better at drawing than humans, so what?
Humans are creative creatures, they love to create, even if there are robots that create better than them they will keep creating anyway, not to get better than the robots but for the fun of it. Same goes for things like programming and writing, humans will still do them even if there are robots that do them better, because we like to do them.
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Previous: >>3890464

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw

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>>3905600
blobby linework but this doesn't take away from the appeal
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Can someone please check this perspective figure for me? Does everything look alright? Excuse the mess, I just don't want to start cleaning everything up if the perspective is wrong.

>>3905584
Is that an axolotl boy in the far right? That's super adorable.
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>>3906132
hella wonked desu senpai
I can't tell what you're going for, it feels like you're going for an extreme top town perspective, but you've drawn it like its just a generic frontal view., the lower half especially looks like you've tried to do the extreme perspective deal, but the proportions just look normal.

This is Les Demoiselles d'Avignon (1907) by Pablo Picasso. I have an art history quiz tomorrow and I am 90% sure this is the painting they’re gonna give us.

The quiz is to just analyze the painting. I wanna hear your two cents on it
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gay
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Boring
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>>3906171
>I wanna hear your two cents on it

There are different angles you could use. Remind your teacher that Picasso lied by pretending that this artwork was the fundation of cubism (Source is "Georges Braque, le défi silencieux").
The original title was "The Brothel of Avignon" and should have been about the Fear of getting sexual diseases but the artist never finished it (not because of laziness though, as it is documented that he made a hundred drawings of it beforehand). See picture for more reference on the subject.
If you really want your teacher to fail you, talk about the cultural appropriation of African art.

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>>3899026
Let's draw more of /ic/'s crab-chan
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>>3905691
>that kangaroo
>that last panel
Now this is Kino
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>>3906050
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>>3905691
kino

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>Googled "Construction drawing" and "perspective drawing"
>Already making noticeable improvement and doing better than the crabs on this board who think Loomis invented drawing
Feels good man
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So you're that mongoloid people were shitting at in one of the "loomis is a meme" threads for being retarded. I can see why now. This is uncanny as fuck.
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This is unacceptable. This has to be on purpose.
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>>3903727
which
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>>3906176
the handlebar-esque clavicles, and the "2019" strategically placed on opposite ends.
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>>3906179
i'll make sure to study hard so i do not end up like him

for any art related vents you want to get off your chest
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My relationship ended after a number of years because I thought I was something I was not, this event then lead me to leave my illustration course majority of people whom I considered my friends stop talking to me. My ex then dated one of said friends in the group which destroyed me even further. The one or two friends who were happy to keep contact I fucked up on one person because I said I would support them and their project but due to massive debt I couldn’t. I’ve now paid it off but I had to work hard to even get to this point and the time it took to fix this is the time it took for this to be fixed it’s too late, he doesn’t need someone flakey in their lives so we both just stop talking which I fully blame myself for. The other person after exploring what I thought I was with him has now ghosted me, though we’ve been friends since we were 11 and now I’m deep into my 20’s so it feels like a part of me has been ripped away.

I’ve always been quite isolated but this is for the first time where I’ve truly been alone, only thing stopping me from ending it all is having a little brother to teach. I’m so proud of his progress and every painting he has sent me, but it feels harder and harder to keep going.

It feels like I’m nearing the end, I still have a love for drawing and painting but I don’t know how to keep my spirits up. I’d say I’m hoping for an easy answer but I know it doesn’t work like that, thinking about leaving and starting fresh somewhere.
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>>3905472
Some advice from Marco bucci is to just tell the client straight up your struggling and explain to them while your still gonna try your best it is a personal blindspot in terms of skill for yourself. They’ll be happier knowing than not.
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>>3905399
must not have been too important if it was only 1 day ago and you forgot about it desu ne
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>>3906137
Hook yourself to a big project, perhaps. Staying focused on something will keep the dark thoughts away.
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Having a frustrating day and I want to punch the shit out of someone or call people faggots on the internet
I wish I could make vent art but that would just make me even more frustrated because I can't fucking draw. Isn't art supposed to be a way to escape or self express, goddamn

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Disclaimer: Please [-] the thread if you don't want your mom seeing degeneracy on your screen.

Share your pornographic drawings that you're working on and receive feedback, "blog ?" comments, and critiques. Please keep it civil.

>How do I get started drawing porn?
6 Steps to Improve
http://forums.hentai-foundry.com/viewtopic.php?t=963&sid=3a137456306d28694f62b26029814aeb
Read Loomis - /loomis/ link
https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw

References -
1. Google is your best friend. So is the Artbook Thread (ctrl+F artbook in Catalog)
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21APXa9KeUpBIoyWY&id=F9815D5579F67656%2111600&cid=F9815D5579F67656
http://www.artmodeltips.com/poses/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sudoksa/

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>>3906025
doesnt make it good
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>>3906035
So? Anon made an accomplishment and wanted to share it with us. When I started commissions, my art was garbage but I built up a dedicated fanbase from it.
What do you have to show for yourself? How about you post your work?
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>>3906070
You agreed that it's shit, I have nothing else to prove
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>>3906138
>>3905909

guys like these are the reason for /IC/ falldown
unsuccessful and full of bitterness
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>>3906138
desperately trying to desmoralize anons work to feel better about your shity life?

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what makes exactly an artwork soulless? is it the lack of saturation? the stiffness or composition,etc? sometimes when i see X artwork i feel the drawing lacks of something,even when the anatomy and perspective is ok, but i cant tell what is it exactly
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>>3906054
Why not just say that >>3905738 has a better silhouette, value, colors, edge control and looks of the model etc?

"soul" and "soulless" is just the noob's way of coping with an inability to formulate real critique. These threads are ngmi trash and you should all be ashamed. Fuck off and go draw or something.
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>>3905738
>>3905741
Looks like it was painting from life while
>>3906054 looks like it was copied from an airbrushed photo

Fun fact photorealism isn't actual realism because photos pick up sharp details that the eyes can't see

As humans, we have a peripheral view, so the object of our fixation is sharp, but the surrounding areas are more blurred.
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>>3905956
This is one of the few times when the soulless meme actually is true.

They are basically human printers. They trace a projected image onto their paper, then use a grid guide them to copy every pixel as it is in the photograph.

In every time lapse video in this style they always start with the guidelines already drawn because they either traced or used a projector.
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>>3906076
>In every time lapse video in this style they always start with the guidelines already drawn because they either traced or used a projector.
This

Tho I have to side people like Mark Crilley dont do that, but he also doesnt draw faces like these guys, but objects. He regards this method as a studying method rather than a form of drawing, and he in a way kinda started the "hyperrealistic drawing" craze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuMuGYCW63w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIBfYW-jRxU
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>>3905836
TF2 has a ton of soul. I feel like the cartoony artstyle is familiar but when you break it down there really isn’t any other art or music that is close to TF2. The characters have more purpose beyond Disney tier “oh let’s give them big eyes” or “let’s make the face crooked because they are a peasant”

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3903298

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

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>>3906135
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>>3906135
>tfw you care about being fit and healthy, and you're disgusted by fat people, but at the same time you're aroused by pictures like this

Why am I cursed with this fetish
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>>3906135
is posting semi nsfw here based on OP pic? I need feedback with muh drawings
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Nice OP pic
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>>3906135
Hey that's my exact body type. Skinny with a gut except Asian.

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DRAW THREAD

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! don't take anything personal!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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>>3905942
I’m digging the 1-pixel brush look, anon. I think that you just gotta make sure to choose the right color palette to make it work, but what you got so far looks great
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>>3906058
>>>>>>GLITCH ART
You mean filters, you at least drew the thing, right?
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Hey can somebody help me with that, I try to do her mask but I'm a bit stuck with the horns
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>>3906104
Lol, yes.

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Discord: https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

**If you make good copies of anime *properly*, you will be able to draw good anime. If you make bad copies of anime or bad anime styled drawings from photos, you will get better at drawing bad anime. Please think carefully about how you are studying.**

This is the thread for:

1. Posting your anime studies:
>Copy exactly but don’t do it aimlessly. Integrate drawing concepts (construction, color theory, tracing, etc.) into your studies in order to pull information from the reference (anime art, figurines, tutorials) that you can later use for your original work.
>Do a single study multiple times to ensure you address all of your mistakes and memorize the correct process in your head. Attempt drawing it from memory as well.
>You will only be able to effectively deviate from your reference after doing exact copy studies accurately and consistently.
2. General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.


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>>3899565
Which tools should I use to make something like this?
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>>3906112
or this
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>>3906112
>>3906115
A pen and paper you fucking crab
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>>3906102
learn lineweight
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>>3906147
:(


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