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are "AI artists" even real artists?
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>>7304318
You will not be able to draw like X if you use those references, you will be drawing like AI that uses X in its algorithm. It's like saying you want to draw impressionistic plain air landscapes and then sit home and trace heavily filtered photos.

Then again, I doubt you will see the difference, considering you wanted the explanation in the first place.
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>>7303192
no lol
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>>7304331
If all art were calarts garbage you would never have models making high quality tits and ass.

I want to see real posts and real images made by real people. Not trash made by bots and retards copypasting prompts. At best you are a philistine, at worst you are a slop eater shill making the internet worse for everyone.

By the way, your whole stance is regurgitated outrage trying to justify replacing the evuuul leftist calarts twitter artist(A strawman) with AI.
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No, don't believe anything, there is no intention, there is no intellectuality or human emotion. It's just statistical data presented in a digital image.
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>>7304337
Lol, no. I'm saying I'd rather look at pleasing images and twitter/deviant artists are hellbent on the uglification of art. Normal people are sick of ugly lesbians too. Perhaps if the art community was worth protecting then I might feel bad about their jobs getting swiped up, but they are the most vapid, nepotistic, cult like group on the net and they feed off and regurgitate their concepts more than ai does.
>evuuul leftist
I'm guessing you're one of em.

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Be specific if you request something: post the cover, book's title, artist's name...
Please be patient, board is slow, someone may answer you a week later.
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>>7303097
it less than $20, you don't even need to own it he literally goes over parts of it in his videos, just turn on subtitles and auto translate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xABi5qheD1o
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Pls some one T_T:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/%E5%B0%8F%E5%B6%8B-%E6%85%B6%E7%A5%90/dp/4046830956?text=%E5%B0%8F%E5%B6%8B+%E6%85%B6%E7%A5%90
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>>7303646
can you please post it. i know its likely an hard ask but i think alot of people on here who ask questions abt drawing authentic anime would be purged from the chat. some of the excepts online look really in depth
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>>7301889
Tell me you're chronically on x without telling me you're chronically on x.
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>>7304323
Sadly, people prefer to wallow in ignorance by repeating arguments they read from a talkative user.

Ignorance should not be taken as an argument

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware.

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos pro
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco 01 v2 / Pro

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq pro
Huion Kamvas plus/pro
XP-Pen Artist series
Xencelab Pen display


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>>7304066
real, freaking hard to replicate the lines i can do in trad in digital using a screenless tablet
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>>7304229
if only there was some way to raise the tablet...
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>>7304236
i actually did use one (just because i use one already on my large intuos pro) and it didnt help at all lol , i placed it on my drafting desk, my stand desk , i even oriented it in portrait mode to simulate my drawing board , it just made my back hurt , read people on reddit having the same issues , some theorized it with pen grip surprisingly, said people bought those fattening pen grips and it aided them with their back problems -
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>>7304303
Or maybe your posture is shit and you dont pay any attention to ergonomics lol
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>>7304303
Maybe you grip the pen way too hard.

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Thread for sharing tips and asking questions about inking.

My Question: How to ink a perfect circle.?
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>>7303961
>Draftsment used to use fountain pens as well. I believe it was primarily for the architect font.
Yeah I'm sure some people must have had use for them, but since they're less versatile and hardly tolerate pigmented inks, their use must have been confined.

>>7303962
>the absolute vast majority of people buying fountain pens don't use them for anything more than signing things every once in a while, don't delude yourself
Pretty sure it's true with art supply in general...

>>7303972
>so all mmy notes and sketches are permanent
Hm? Given the pen, the inks must not be pigmented. So while the ink might be waterproof, it shouldn't be permanent. Though, permanent enough for notes in book closed most of the time
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>>7304212
>Pretty sure it's true with art supply in general
I don't know anyone collecting 6B pencils or buying them to be fancy or in case they need to write something down, much less paint.
The closest thing I can think of are the retards memed into buying sable brushes to paint wargame minis with acrylics.
Most people try to get away with the cheapest shit for art supplies because it's not a single item you can splurge on in a moment of weakness, but lots of individual items that can be pretty expensive even individually. One of the biggest issues in watercolor is getting people to buy actual cotton paper because literally everyone avoids it like the plague and goes for the cheaper cellulose instead, then gets frustrated because it's just awful to paint on and doesn't allow you to do half the techniques.
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>>7304212
>>7304253
Also, just to be clear, this isn't really commentary on the pens themselves, I'm just pointing out that the target demographic isn't actually concerned with the pen's characteristics beyond looks and maybe paper specs, so neither are the manufacturers generally.
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>>7304253
>I don't know anyone collecting 6B pencils or buying them to be fancy or in case they need to write something down, much less paint.
Oh, many people will collect assortments of fancy pencils while being completely unable to use them at all. I've been there actually. But it works for paint, brushes, PDFs, videos tutorials: hoarding spirit.
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>>7304253
>I don't know anyone collecting 6B pencils or buying them to be fancy or in case they need to write something down, much less paint.
There are a lot of "art supplies" which are just normal stationary with an upmarket aesthetic, aimed at people who don't actually use them often. Super fancy moleskine notebooks for example, they had a fineliner pack that was sold with them. You usually see these not in art stores but in stationary stores.

There's also the stupid rich LARPer end of things - Gucchi and Louis Vuitton released the exact same shitty colored pencil set in exactly the same roll with just a different pattern on it and different hardware, from the same manufacturer. Worse than normal prismacolors while being over 7x as expensive.

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>draw miku
>only 100 likes
i thought you retards say drawing this blue bitch gets you popular
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>>7301794
second one from the right has no left hand real cool
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>>7304004
>kill yourself
>you are SO pathetic
Fuck off dude. Frankly it's you looking pathetic hyperfixating on one person who isn't even being particularly hostile to you, trying to be reasonable with you but critiquing your attitude. Learn to take some criticism of your personality just like you come here for criticism of your art.
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>>7303724
Miku vagisune
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>>7304045
That picture fills me with this combination of contempt and disgust. If that's real we are cooked.
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>>7304260
>if that's real
das real

if the average pleb would be aware of how businesses openly talk about consumers on seminars without getting confused by the biz jargon, they would start rioting and burning shit down like the easily influenced monkeys they are.

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post your:
>traditional artworks
>questions about traditional media
>sketches, wips, inspiration

Old: >>7275163
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>>7304271
Projector is the fastest way I know of
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>>7299540
I actually love your work. I asked this in the old trad thread before it got archived - the one on the bottom left behind the one you photographed (pic related) - do you have the reference image? I love that one.

Aside from that, I actually love your work and output! Good stuff, keep going!
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>>7304210
>but i create the colour wheel by working with the triangle, no?
I don't have a great image on hand, but a decent way to think about the concept is with computer monitors color standards since they rely on the 3 RGB channels.
Similar to 3 primary colors of paint, this 3 color system creates a triangular plane across the color spectrum. If you look at the distance between red and green, there's an outer band. Adjusting the values of these two allows mixes at points between the two - in this case to produce yellows. There are colors outside the spectrum that can never be reproduced (although modern panels do incredibly well).
Of course, screen pixels rely on an additive light color scheme whereas with painting you're mixing under a subtractive scheme - so a better representation would have black in the middle, and the cyan/magenta/yellow primaries in your case.

Not every palette covers the full color spectrum. Zorn palette is popular in portraiture and has no blue/green.
I think the best way to see what your palette is capable of is to take the 3 primaries and a throwaway canvas, mix 90% magenta 10% yellow, then 80/20 next to it, 70/30, and so on until the end. This will show you approximately what in between colors your mix is capable of producing. Repeat with other colors. Eventually you can work with a larger palette and instinctively know the right mix to produce the correct hue, dulled down to the right level.

>is there a way to make the prism colour in the background translucent but bright
Sure. I find glazing layers of transparent colors over several sessions works well for me, but there are other strategies to get nice effects wet on wet.
To get the brightest colors, you'll always need an opaque layer. By their nature, a white must be opaque or it'd do nothing. It must bounce light and obstruct what is underneath to have any impact. However, you can still apply an opaque color thinly enough such that it'll only partially obstruct.
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>>7304290
I have a very old one, not even hd. Not sure if it would actually work.
What you do with it, is it just fo just transferring the sketch. Or do people try to put the right color over the projection, like with camera obscura?
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>>7304287
>Diluting it however lightens it, but doesn't gray it.
many insightful remarks, you are very helpful, thank you! you have very well pointed out about the greyness and white, even before i posted the pic you understood my issue. if you still have a minute, i think im making mistakes with my application, i generally know the 3 rules, but is there a video or other ressource you in particular reccomend?

>>7304287
>I don't get it :X
i always find it amusing, how things talk, colour is an interactive component. it is not just static and us perceive it differently, but depending on its dosage, surrounding, usage, it changes its traits. its living.

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Do anyone know about the method of doing a quick collage using reference and then use that as a base to later make your sketch or ink?
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>>7304254
I wish.
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>>7304041
>>7304018
Same I will draw her with you. If thread is still up will post later today.
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>>7304265
>I am
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>>7304142
If this is a trap I'll fuck him standing up in the ass
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>>7304018
Anything that veers that hard into anime kawaii has to be a tranny.

is there anything wrong with stonehouse anatomy outside of claims that feminine/masculine posture is inherent to the female/male sex? i like that he goes into depth on WHY a certain piece of anatomy is the way it is, not a lot of anatomy books do that, they just give you the part and a name and move on.
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>>7304168
This is the equivalent of buying a shakeweight to train your biceps instead of dumbells. Like sure you'll make some progress but you'll look like a dumbass while doing it and the thought of whether you're being fucked in the ass will always linger in the back of your mind.
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>>7304191
its been a while since ive used it beyond a drawing resource. from what i remember it had to do with range of motion but i dont remember what part. unsure if its translation errors or the actual author's fault
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>>7304168
Stuff like this is actually really unhelpul. I agree with the others to find anatomy for sculptors instead.
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>>7304168
we had this thread last week, you baiting nodraw nigger
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>>7304305
We've had this thread for the last 3 years.

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If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?

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>>7304029
It looks like you drew a real statue. From what I can see, you did a good job, but I would be more mindful of more purposeful shapes so that there's more clarity in your work. Consider what's said in this video for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZknWKTpc90
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>>7304153
this is a good place to end things on for today
time for video games
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Tried colouring the coomslop i posted a few threads back
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>>7304136
Tried to fix it again, new one on the right. It's better for sure but I still fucked up the perspective I think.

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anyone have advice to getting nsfw commisions?

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Previous Thread: >>7223234

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials

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Working on some Forever Winter fanart, testing my drawing from imagination muscle
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>>7302623
Lanky

Height comparison
https://files.catbox.moe/idmecr.png
https://files.catbox.moe/kfo1nw.png
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>>7304044
You need to go to /beg/
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Remember, hashtags are still affective and will gain you traction.
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>>7304134
> another space would be to upload their shit to a specialized platform like pxiv but you will compete with people who know how to draw
People who know how to draw anime*
That shithole site specialized in anime illustrations, if you don’t draw it, you get no traction, weeb. Also artist still upload on insta, just the ones with 30k-200K+ followers they average 10k-40k+ like per art post. It dead if you didn’t get a large following before.
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>>7304228
The OP barely made that doodle, I assume it was a mistake on my part to have recommended him to go to pixiv
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>>7304009
>>7303938
with twitter, you want to limit hashtags to about 3 or 4 tops, and make sure they're really relevant and specific. if you're doing fanart you want character and brand, and if you're cashing in on a trend you want that in the tags as well as the text.
a much more useful thing is alt text. you can be extremely verbose and detailed in describing the image, and that helps the algorithm know what is in the picture. its not just for accessibility, it also works similar to a tagging system but less oblique than hastags.
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>>7303938
One, they're an eyesore. And two, stop using more than five hashtags on Twitter. It's not fucking instagram.
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>>7304118
Hard disagree from me

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources:

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:

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>>7302565
these are spectacular
what/who's methods do you use?
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last one, brushes for krita if u need them: https://catbox.moe/
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>>7304149
https://files.catbox.moe/zk50ev.bundle
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>>7302433
one more page to go to finish up this sketchbook

>>7302522
>>7302565
good job
>>7302644
there's no real timeframe, depends on how much you are practicing. clothes are kind of their own thing, learning the different folds/how different thicknesses work to drape over the various body parts is kind of a different mindset.
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>>7303404
these are great
>>7303219
I usually start with the head, but it depends on the pose.
>>7303474
horse girl is pretty cool

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>>7304280
>>7292911/>>7285491 here
how do you approach legs?
have this consistent issue where i can nail legs with ref, but i tend without ref to draw legs that have dysfunctional attachment to the pelvis, "upside down bowling pin" thighs, and calves/lower legs that are shorter than the upper legs
i have working anatomy knowledge of the legs, but i don't quite know what i'm missing, and maybe my gesture/knowledge is off - want to get those nice, slender, sexo legs i see 52MW draw on yt because i'm a butt and leg man, but his gesture process is really opaque and he only posts 8hr sketch streams that are hard to scrub through
ty if you have advice and willing to share, senpai

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Welcome to the OC Redraw thread!!

>Post an OC
>Draw someone else's OC
>Have fun

This one is more for trading than just for sharing
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>>7292110
Really, no fills for the SPACE MILF? What happened to this country...
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>>7303692
Nta but do you have an oc?
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>>7303692
you did a beautiful job drawing salem anon you made him so cute :D do you have any ocs?
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>>7303986
thank you for your interest, but i don't really </3
you can treat me by drawing something nice and fun for yourself though

>>7304248
>you made him so cute :D
glad that I was on-model then!
>do you have any ocs?
i don't actually, was just passing by lurking and he caught my eye haha, im happy that you saw and liked it though!


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