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>Guidelines:

1. [THE MOST TAISETSU] Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox, Imgur, or any off-site that hosts images for your works.

2. Do not post child photo references, legal or otherwise.

3. Due to this general's PPH (posts per hour/thread activity), please wait until the thread falls to around page 5 or 6 before making a thread. Use archived(moe) or warosu to retrieve the old threads.

4. Please do NOT talk about real children. Keep it 2D only.

>Lolicon Artists Directory & General Information
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/


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>>7145303
Giga based
The one on top left is a dream
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I think I'm done with this. I learned a lot.

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>>7145356
Looks nice but where is the light source coming from? Maybe you can darken the edges a bit so she stands out more, particularly the back, play around with colored lighting, a simple layer with overlay, or some other type of layered coloring, could add a lot to the look.
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>>7145381
I imagined a lighting source is from a fake paper lantern hanging in the ceiling of the bed/pillow fort, but I couldn't fit it in the picture so I scrapped it. She has some odd lighting on one side of her hair because I wasn't originally planning to have an actual background. I'm being a pussy about really digging into placing characters in space with objects and so I said fuck it, and threw her into a scene. Lessons learned I suppose. My next piece I will try to construct the entire scene before hand to incorporate proper lighting.

Thanks for the advice. I might do a second pass and mess with a few layers to what I can do to enhance it.
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Chilchuck

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This is a thread for /beg/s and /int/s (there is no /adv/) to share and discuss art.
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My Dopey can talk because most dopey people can't stop talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTDS8qbait0
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exp sheet

I just combed through the midjourney subreddit and it's not looking good for us. There's generated graphic novels out there that actually look really good. People are buying these things. It really is just dawning on me now the seriousness of this aspect of technological advancement.

I think it's inevitable that AI will have to be used in some way to supplement art, whether it's creating concepts or backgrounds, or get left behind in the dust.

Isn't it FUCKING HILARIOUS, cruelly ironic, almost a cosmic prank that the ONE thing everyone thought artificial intelligence would never be able to replicate is the first thing it's able to replicate when it was concieved?

Still

There is a fundamental flaw in the ai generated content that I'm only 50% sure it won't be fully fixed, and that's emotion. There's a sort of soulless vacancy that haunts the incredibly aesthetic ai generated content. The poses aren't very fluid, there's no technique with exaggeration. It can't capture the emotional complexities of a human. There is no "story", nor experience, no evidence of another, different conscience that experiences his own version of qualia. I hope and pray to god with every vessel of my flesh that AI doesn't figure that out, because if that happens,
1. There's really no point in artists anymore. It'll be reduced to a skill that's only impressive in that wow, you can "do stuff like a computer can"
2. The implication that humans aren't special, we are just machines that can be easily figured out, the human 'spirit' is an illusion.
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>>7145325
No, I will not be going back to fucking reddit, and here's why:
I've tried to have this exact same conversation on reddit and I wrote an entire paragraphs-long post on the ramifications of AI art and how it'll change the meaning of "art", and I've tried to explain to them using tangible terms why AI art feels so empty and lacks dynamism without using wishy-washy emotional mysticism. I talked about people facing problems with denial regarding the inevitability of AI technology.
And what was I met with? Retards. So many fucking retards, and they're not retarded because they disagreed with me. There were a couple of people who presented well-written disagreements which I acknowledged, and even thanked them for. But nooo, it seems that my post had personally attacked a LOT of ai bros and they started to ARGUE with me on SEMANTICS. Fucking semantics. There were so many retards who had a problem with the fact that I didn't specify what kind of AI I was talking about (i was talking about the generative ai that the subreddit talked about 99% of the time).
There was this one bitch that told me I was ableist for suggesting that technical art skill is something anyone can learn because it's literally a fucking formula and there's guidelines and nobody is born with this innate instinct on the mysteries of art. (How can it NOT be a formula if it was so easily automated, retard?) They didn't want to talk about the actual shit I wanted to discuss, and just pointed out what they thought were logical fallacies in my presented topic, which I easily proved otherwise because they never read the entire post. Those redditors never actually fucking talk about the topic I wanted to discuss. They don't even want to argue against the ideas I am actually trying to perpetuate. I could feel the percieved drop in iq over there on reddit. There's a fuckton of retards here, that's for sure, but oh, thank god, there's a LOT LESS reddit moments here, aren't there? YEAH???
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>>7145335
And you know what's hilarious? Everyone here is anonymous, so that give us more liberty to be retarded here right? There are usernames attached to people on reddit, and somehow, there are SO MANY MORE FUCKING RETARDS.
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>retard finds out that shills are desperate to protect their ego substitute
Lurked and post on plebbit as well since generals on others boards are pretty much the same shitposting faggots, but i figured pretty early on that people don't want to talk, they want to feel heckin valid and you can't call them out on their faggotry or they'll just downvote you to autodeletion+getting stalkers or your profile deleted, if anything you say goes against the main narrative.

>there are a lot less plebbit moments here
lurk more
it's the fucking same since it's unironically the same no-life discord trannies posting everywhere.
Can't tell you how many times i've seen posts on that site resembles exactly the usual bait and trolling threads on here.

People now are just clinically retarded, Jack. All they want is consume and feel heckin valid about it and god forbid someone threatens their delusions.

I ended up getting banned off a subreddit for something genuinely innocuous, that ended up becoming true, but apparently got people triggered.
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>>7145335
>ableist
I remember a time when you would only hear this kind of retarded nonsense on twatter. Now the Reddit/tumblr/twatter nonsense has leaked into normiesphere and you have to watch what you say at work lest you get a trip to HR over the most benign things
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i feel like skilled artists don't have much to worry about. they're creative in a way that ai people aren't, since the ai people are just generating shit like "REALLY GOOD PICTURE OF MY PREGNANT WIFE."
for shit artists like me though, it's worse, because my art literally looks worse than ai. i don't think art's gonna be killed, but people will be way less likely to get into it.

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Thread to study little boys. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute little boys.

Rules:
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Only post SFW shota, link NSFW and suggestive from catbox. Don't post real life references.
>Don't fight about different male body types, shota. Nobody cares.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.
>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.
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quick one. feeling the need for some drapery studies
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>>7138232
I love Shigeru but as a character designer he is questionable
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>>7140140
Kudos for the doll-like faces. Talk about eyemaxxing.

In terms of advice that might be of help for your head-construction process, you should be extra mindful of the inclination angles of both vertical and horizontal axes, specifically of how they relate to the facial base plane, as well as to the position of the head as a whole.

https://doctorlib.info/anatomy/classic-human-anatomy-motion/classic-human-anatomy-motion.files/image377.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbzHK1_U8AElUCZ?format=jpg&name=medium

In your current piece, the vertical axis of Leonard's head is slanted forward, which in turn makes it appear as if he had a minor case of the so-called "Habsburg jaw". Just rotate your canvas until both the eye and brow levels of his face are in a horizontal position, and then imagine a line that conects the center of the forehead with that of the chin: you'll notice the relative obliqueness of the lower half of Leonard's face in relation to its upper features.

The solution would consist in adjusting the position of the relevant axis until it's properly vertical, and then making sure that the nose, mouth, and chin follow the alignment of said axis.

Also, you should consider the planar simplifications of the main facial landmarks, especially (but not exclusively) those of the upper section. Concerning the glabella-radix area in particular, my suggestion is that you attempt to visualize it as if it were a prismatic puzzle piece, meant to fit below the brow ridge and between the eyes, inserted at the top middle point of the indentation formed by the imaginary fusion of the orbits:

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Chilchuck

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>complaining
edition

>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/

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>>7145003
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/chuchito72/
https://twitter.com/J_M_Chuchito72
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>>7145260
This dang DOG is being IMMODEST on the streets of GAY PARIS!
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just a yapping kobold

>>7144886
Great hands, love this stuff
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Im practicing colors, still suck
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>>7145421
gmi FR

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How do I draw like picrel? It looks like manga kino.
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apply hammer to head, and repeat as often as needed.
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>>7143824
ONE's new series looks great
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since when did keffals get his own manga.
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>>7143824
kino shape language
reminds me of some of the animation parts of pop team epic

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Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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http://characterdesigns.com/

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Still a wip
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I got a bunch of free money coupons piling up, any recommendations for a drawing pad?
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>>7122813
Nice work bro, you got a blog?

Is copying, and understanding, Bridgman's over and over actually valuable?
I heard some artists talking about it, what do you guys think?
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>>7143880
copy it a few times, then you'll understand it
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>>7128237
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>>7128237
Cont.
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>>7126302
understanding the fundamentals of bridgman like overlapping lines and line depth are really useful. Plus with a good understanding of gesture, and how gravity travels through the body, it makes drawing figxvures a lot easier.
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>>7145424 it can become obvious when someone is using bridgman based on the shapes of the body (especially the rib cage) because there is a system of hard and soft shapes. You can branch out and use elements of this but don't have to go full bridgman with your art.

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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com

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>>7145327
>top-middle head
>the right side of the front of its face
>only the left portion is shaded
I have very minimal knowledge of light theory, but if the right side of the face is being simplified as a series of divided planes all with the same angle/orientation, would they not receive the same sort of light or shade?
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>>7145361
Why is this drawing super comfy? I bet you're comfy while drawing it too anon.
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>>7145213
your attention to parallel lines is inspiring

There's something about this lineart that makes it look like an amateurish trace, what is it?
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>>7145065

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Go on construction fags, do your best
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I will NEVER draw fat people
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>>7144257
Is that Leto II, God-Emperor of Mankind?
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>>7145034
KEK
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>>7145230
No, that's Lardus the fourth, God-King of monkeykind.
Bro, get your lore together

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I want to (eventually) sell my art as NFTs in one or more marketplace, in a blockchain.

Such art can be purchased by people for artistic and/or financial appreciation.
It will also be physical and digital at the same time

Is this wrong in your view for any reason? If yes, why?
(Remember to make better arguments than your average basedtuber, thank you)

>Assume the environment impact is negligible. Less than 4chan's impact, for example
>"Hahahaha show me example of X artist selling good art as NFTs then!"
>I can't, this would probably be considered as "spam" and thus get me banned by the local janny
>I already got banned once thanks to this board, am risking another but I am dreadfully curious
>Thank you for reading this post
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>>7143372
>>7143393
All these words could be bypassed if you just pyw
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>I want to (eventually) sell my art as NFTs in one or more marketplace, in a blockchain.
cool, go for it.
>Is this wrong in your view for any reason? If yes, why?
Not wrong, artists should do whatever they need to get that bag.
The problem with NFT is that the market is fucking dead. And the examples of successful NFTs have more to do with the nexus of crypto (cult)ure, fashion, memes, and branding than the art itself. It reminds me of the fine art world where influencers push the nebulous next big thing.
Examples of successful NFTs include Pudgy Penguins, that monkey shit, and Miladys (before the co-founder was associated with a suicide cult and the price plummeted). If you look at the art itself ... well that's all subjective.
tldr market's dead, a lot of it is mired in bullshit, but hey put some up and see what happens.
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>>7143341
>Is this wrong in your view for any reason? If yes, why?
no, not at all.
the previous nft buzz was all built on hype and speculation. even during that time i have seen artists who i followed before nfts existed sell their art as nfts and continue to do so.
it is just a mechanism for sale and transfer of ownership and authentication.
as a plus you might get secondary sale income.
you can find artists who do it and the market accepts it. but you will find many voices online who are against it but who cares?
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No one buy NFTs for their artistic value, but by the promise that it will be worth 10000x more in a future, can you promise that to your buyers or at least scam them into thinking you can?
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>>7143477
>>7143693
>>7145171
these words too

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>>7145368
western sphere art twitter isn't about art, it's about porn and drama.
Who are the biggest western accounts?
>pornfags who also generate or create some sort of drama content
Khyle or Stonetoss for example. The first thing you always read about them
>haha they're so funny because they make the xyz seethe
When in reality, all the drama is unironically fake.
>>7145396
>if you know how to play the algorithm game seriously you can make a million subs in a year.
that ship has sailed long ago
tell me the big epic ytuber you mean and i'll tell you their "game".
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>>7145313
I've done this to someone else. He grew bigger than me.
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>>7145403
he will not do this back to you?
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>>7145394
>Every time you help a beglet nigger out you are literally killing society.
Tell us about your successful society then
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>>7145368
I don't retweet anymore because the gallery is blurred

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Hello. I'm trying to create a macrostyle [Roots: Groenism, Schulzism, Primitive Tezukism], but I'm having difficulty increasing visual entropy in a non-arbitrary way.

From a soft perspective: any tips for increasing entropy? Maybe through shadows/gradients?
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>>7144030
"If I had more time I would write a shorter letter'

This quote, often attributed to Mark Twain, is a humorous commentary on the paradox of writing. It suggests that the more time one has to write, the more likely they are to write a longer and more verbose letter. This quote can be seen as a tongue-in-cheek observation on the human tendency to elaborate and expand on ideas, rather than keeping things concise and to the point.
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>>7144030
https://youtu.be/7XZlxsJoZkU?si=BrcHhPHI24wotV_-&t=61

here's a char design for ya
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>>7144843
Simple words can only be used to refer to known concepts, verbiage is inevitable when you try to describe something that does not exist.

>>7144857
Nice drawing.
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>>7130066
>I'm creating a style
>"primitive Tezukism"
>more made up words that seems out of a 90's hipster art magazine
>can't fucking draw
Who am I even quoting holy shit
How the fucking hell this board reached this point of total and absolute chaos
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>>7145341
It is normal that you are confused. After all, Theoretical Creativity (TC) is totally opposite to Practical Creativity (PC), which is the traditional approach to art. TC seeks internal self-consistency and appeals to form and public only for self-regulatory purposes, PC considers social applicability as an end in itself.

In theory if you draw a pixel (in technical terms: low entropy visual output) and you can justify it; congratulations: you have created valuable art!

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>>7140367
Practice, study AND draw! Be the mosquito man/mamimi of your life!
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>>7138086
They never said you have to use reference everytime you want to draw something, but you obviously need reference to learn anything new
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>>7142278
What the fuck are you waffling about? You have the potential. You have the pieces in the bag, you just need to refine and correct them a bit. I like your comic. You are really close to hitting it, and your giving up now?! Nah.
Keep going, Anon. Just remember to have fun and enjoy the process of drawing.
Even if you produce dogshit along your journey, as long as you enjoy yourself, who cares?
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>>7136585
>post the drawing that made you realize you were NGMI
NGMI status isn't set in stone and isn't even related to a piece of art but rather how I approach art. I have possibly figured out a much healthier path of pursuing art, but there's an irrational fear of being perma stunted by a 15 year long perfectionist mentality, leading to an unbreakable life of inconsistency and slow as molasses pace.

Ever since I started art as an 11 year old I've had an unhealthy high expectation, focusing too hard on a single piece needing to be fantastic like my inspirations, no matter how long it takes and how miniscule the changes are. Rather than what I now believe. Which is cultivating a mechanical memory from constant observation, quick rep grind, and appliance. Shaping my overall capability so that I can output what I trained for in a reasonable time and effort. Applying what I learned instead of forced trial and error.

But this irrational fear of being stunted still chains me down. Alongside this reluctant thought that quick studies should look presentable from the get go, despite never working at such a pace before. If I stay like this then I am definitely perma NGMI. I need some push of confidence that my newfound realization on how to better approach art in my life will in the end work out if I just ignore my ego and fear of being stunted. I need reassurance. Sorry for the wall of text I don't feel like TLDRing.
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>>7136585
I've started drawing again since I hadn't for a few years, but it's mostly just me copying stuff I see.


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