Join artists from all over the world in the Drawpile, the Premiere Cross-Board Collaborative Drawing Event. A 9500 x 9500 pixel shared canvas awaits!Drawpile Software: drawpile.net/downloadSession URL: drawfie.com (Sigmatelier canvas)Browser access URL (for iPad/Android):https://drawpile.net/invites/drawfie.com/01jjz94fx2r1w98jqzhdtpkks8?webServer is accessible 24/7Activity can be found throughout most weekdaysBe conscious of the canvas size and considerate of others with the size of your own drawings, try to stick to 100-200% magnification depending on your device's native resolution and the relative complexity of your intended work. Read the room, let's try and get the most out of each theme!Canvas images posted to the thread are .jpg files at 70% scale and 40% quality to meet 4chan's resolution and file size requirements, for high quality raw .png canvas files, use the MEGA archive located here: https://mega.nz/folder/hbAURDBB#htWRoOsPOG30XnMmKV_zNAComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niUD-WMdhS4
>>7861127Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2z_vKkBiEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StLAUdklDGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nMFLquJeCc"Justice will prevail and all that stuff...right, Samus?"
Does graffitti have a place in /ic/ has anone done graffiti lawfully?
It's the only piece of graffiti that never got covered up and it's already been several years since I did it. it's on google maps and even got made into a Pokestop and deemed it a "mural". >doing graffiti lawfully Kind of defeats the purpose in my mind. Look for an area in your community you don't think anyone wouldn't mind you tagging and try to beautify it. Not the other way around where people deface nice things with scrawl. I like stencils because the end result looks nice and is easy to pull off. I basically drew out the anime girl and had to think how to cut out the pieces so that when I would spray it, the negative space would work out to be the dark part of the image. You have to think in reverse and make sure the pieces won't fall out from not having an "anchor" to the rest of the piece. The top two fingers making the V fell off afterwards and you can see why. After I finished cutting out the anime girl black parts of the image I made another stencil that was a cut out square roughly the size of the outside edges of the anime girl for the yellow part. Waited until evening, sprayed the yellow square, briefly waited for it to dry, then slapped the anime girl stencil part over it and sprayed that with black spraypaint. Someone even walked by while I was doing it and largely ignored me. I like graffiti because it feels honest where the artist doesn't need credit and if it stays up, that means people liked it. You could turn a desolate dumpster or otherwise crappy area into something beautiful. Godspeed.
>>7860249Nice tag anon. how long did it take you to stencil that out? Would you change anything if you could do it again?>>7860187Finding an unassuming place is the key to it, you want to pick a place where people would not notice unless they actually explore their environment/don't have it in their direct view when walking, driving, etc. >You might make a fucking masterpiece, but all it takes is a few nimby mofos to ruin it for everyone. the more complaints in a short amount of time, the higher likelihood of your tag getting covered.Also helps to you know, not get caught/gives you more time to work. Oh, and also it is not a great idea to cover up any text or numbers, those are there for a reason and your tag will be scraped off and piss off whomever is forced to do it.I usually us multiple stencils. Spray paint the background, and slowly over awhile start adding on the layers.Using the canvas to its full potential can really bring out a work. get creative.
>>7860187The ancient Romans had a name for it. I think it was called a Fresco. Few survive because art done in this style is often difficult to preserve.
Vaughan Bodé contributed damn near as much as Moebius but he's tragic and horny so we don't talk about him
>>7860187I like street art, but let's be honest, the vast majority of graffiti is nigh unreadable squiggles that barely constitute legible writing, much less art, or anything to be appreciated.There's also the problem of graffiti, when not being alien glyphs, is often being highly pretentious political statements, like banksy... I think I'd prefer the squiggles.All this said, I always wanted to give street art a go, but don't think I ever can. Beyond being a pussy, I think I'd over think every location and feel bad about potentially vandalising someone's private property (a big no no in my eyes).When I was a kid people would spray paint our front fence and mail box - it's very demoralising and just makes your house look like utter shit, and I wouldn't want to do that to someone else, even if I'm doing a nice piece of art.>>7860249Cute piece.
>>7862230Probably a big part of that was the institution of art as a discipline, they didn't do it for fun. Maybe Europeans are just enjoying the artistic freedom they never had.
>>7862233You can see sort of the same thing with superhero comics, the "type." The heroes are all 9-10 heads tall, muscular, square-jawed with low brows and narrow eyes (see Bruce Wayne, Superman, etc.). Even if there is variation between artists, most artists still develop a type of their own (or borrow it from what came before). The exception would be someone like Mort Drucker, who seemed never to draw the same face twice, and could not only capture likenesses brilliantly in his caricatures, but could invent distinct characters from imagination from a seemingly endless store of material (the latter skill almost certainly developed as a result of the former). Picrel is a Burger King ad featuring all invented Drucker people.
The big takeaway I've learned from this thread is people generally don't look at older works in anime or have never seen anything that's not the immediately current thing on crunchyroll or whatever, because this wasn't really a problem before the 90s and the bubble bursting. the drastic shift in budgets forced staff to find ways to build shorthand contexts they could use on multiple series right away, leading to alot less viability for unique styles and more of a lean towards those shorthands. This became especially true when cels were finally phased out.That's not to say there aren't a fewthings here and there that don't experiment. the mecha genre especially loved trying new ways to draw characters, with Xabungle and Escaflowne being standouts for having the most interesting takes.in short: stop looking at the same shit all the time and thinking that only the averages matter.
>>7862470Dunbine edges out Xabungle for interesting media imho
>>7862470Anime from the '80s and '90s is freaking awesome. The introduction of CGI was a turning point for the worse. Even the "simple" styles of the early '80s are wonderful and very appealing.
Thread to study the adult male body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute guys and handsome men.Some resources:>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videosRules:>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.>No shota. Go to /lsg/ for that.>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male-focused.>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7857964Ougg he's so cute!
Crossposting. I'm going to attempt to ink, watercolor, and pencil in this sketch. I don't know how to recreate the rainbow effect traditionally though, or if the composition looks weird. I might have my OC hold out a finger with a butterfly. Not sure about the foot touching the water either.>>7857616>>7857964Bunny boys replenish my soul.
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>>7767143Can someone send a link to the 'cord? It expired in the fyi. Thanks!
>>7862391Just comfirmed that the link here >>7859430 is still active, Try loging back into discord to see if it's working for you.
Is there a rule to how much a value has to be for a drawing to start looking like a 3d form?
>>7860224lmaooooooo
Yes, if you can easily identify the core shadow as dark and the lights as lighter. If I were to color pick the lights and shadow from this image they’d look very similar and mushy, with no dark and light color too.
>>7860224in a round about way, yes. if the values are too close together it will be washed out. stark contrasts amplify shapes.
>>7860224The amount of value isn't relevant, you can get away with having literally 2 values. Just look at any typical hacky stencil art traced from a photo.The problem with your picture is that there is no clear direction where the light is coming from. Areas of light and shadow seem random, or undefined. A possible cause is a bad reference. Flat boring studio lighting doesn't make for the best refs, but if the ref has really nice and clear shadows even a bad artist should be able to make a decent drawing out of it.For a drawing to look 3D, the shading needs to be consistent, clearly defined and logical. The rest is perspective and construction (not strictly values related).All of this you can get from a reference, like the drawer of the OP image tried to. If the end result doesn't look good, it's either a bad ref, or a failure in observation. Not because there's not enough value.
>>7860224loooooooooooooooooooooool
What is a good paper to make a flipbook for animation?
i use post it notes at my work
>>7859658>Makes a thread about flipbooks>Doesnt include a gif of flipping the flipbook As usual, Op is a massive faggot.
I'm entirely convinced that people here recommend drawabox just to get /beg/s to quit drawing because of how boring and tedious the course is, giving them the false idea that all art is that mind-numbing.Like look at this shit bro, this does nothing for you while being extremely annoying to do. At the very least, if someone is insistent on drawabox, they should have at least 6 months of drawing behind them, but then the course would be useless and redundant anyway
>>7860324IMO the reason we get so many threads is because Drawabox proponents are rather sensitive to critiques.>>7861459The 50/50 rule isnt particularly useful, since the very early lessons arent particularly useful to approach drawing things of your interest.If for example you took a drawin 101 class, the things like drawing from observation, measuring, values etc... are instantly appliable since you can always use the new observational drawing techniques to study art you like, or to draw around you.Theres no need to go full retard about form either, simply showing how you could draw the 4 basic shapes and then simply telling the student to go out and draw box like objects (televisions, phones, drawers) cylinder like objects (vases, arms to an extent etc) for a long time should be enough without the need for [arbitrary number] challenge.And another counterpoint, the author seems to imply that the only way to get good is to do exercises you absolutely hate for half of your time and then drawing what you enjoy for the another half of the time, thats just nonsense. you should just draw what you want and study things directly related to whatever is it youre trying to make. If you are a wagie and you only have 1 hour to draw, are you really using half of your free time to do something you absolutely hate?
>>7861600>Drawabox proponentsWhere are these people?These are just permabeg circlejerk threads anon. Every one of these threads devolves into "200 box brown nigger person look at bad art heckin kekerino my fellow redditors please updoot my performative racism".
>>7861604Fair. Cant say youre wrong, but on reddit and youtube you can find these guys and they wont accept any form of criticism to the course.My main frustration is that they dont seem to understand the difference of something being challeging but engaging vs Torture (Op's pic)
>>7861611That's because they're all capital P Permabegs. They don't like drawing, none of it is engaging for them. They just want to will giantboobanimegirl onto paper without putting in the effort and blame everyone but themselves for not being able to do so.
Draw a box is only good for getting criticism on basic perspective and form. If you doing anything beyond 0-1 lessons then yeah you will be a perma beg. Its suggested because its free, you get a course with community feedback. Which people on ic love to complain about but have only offered money alternatives. I am sure if a better form and perspective course that was free and easily found was offered that it would be suggested instead. Also>>7859461Hozure a riot artist suggest DAB in his own discord, he is the standard for industry. You should not be talking out of your ass. >>7859459That's perma beg mentality there, you don't have to use DAB but you don't just learn how to do perspective form by drawing shitty animu 3/4 heads. There are specific fundamentals you need direction on and both of those separates why some artists symbol draw and why other people don't. If people understood it intitutively we wouldn't see many perma begs or people hard stuck int. Perspective and form courses are boring. I have yet to see a fun one. If you can't sit down and do basics of those fundies then just literally just do 10 minutes of it a day if you are incaptable of sitting. Any new artists or people can't draw, advice I give for people who think like this is, art isn't gonna be all fun. There is technical shit you have to learn and it will be boring. What you find boring will be diff from other people but that is part of the proccess of drawing and painting. There are people who hate rendering but like end result. People who hate studying value because its boring but benefit from it. If you wanted all fun hobby, quit art now. It's very rare to enjoy entirity of art. People quit art regardless if they do DAB because it gets harder, if you don't want to do it at the boring parts then good luck getting to level you wish to. It's why "Just draw" is even a saying. People who just can't stand the boring parts stop drawing due to it regardless what that boring thing is.
How do you start drawing something like this from imagination
>>7859649just imagine cloth and then draw what you see in your head o algo
>>7859649by learning the principles of how it is formed.
>>7860200Cloth folds are very rarely referenced instead of constructed anew
>>7859649there are just 7 types of folds
>>7861265Hm? Not him but OP's was drawn from life with a 95%+ probability. What they did back then was often to soak a piece of drape in plaster or clay, I don't recall exactly, position it, wait for it to dry, and then paint it.It helps with keeping the drape unchanged, so that it could be studied for extended period of time.>>7859649Same as with anything: study from life or reference meticulously at first, many times, monochromatically. Then train memory and or invention, starting by articulating the main volumes and going finer from there.(haven't been there in a while, wtf with those captchas)
I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACESI CAN LITERALLY DRAW ANYTHING ELSE JUST FINE... BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FACES??????????????? IT FEELS LIKE I'M FUCKING DRUNK OR SOMETHING
>>7859249Yeah, i'm learning this the hard way... Drawing animal faces is way easier in comparison, you just have to add the defining feature of the animal and that's it, it'll read as what it's supposed to be... If only people had the same face...
>>7859107stop being autistic and draw human faces
>>7859107I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI CAN LITERALLY DRAW ANYTHING ELSE JUST FINE... BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FECES??????????????? IT FEELS LIKE I'M FUCKING DRUNK OR SOMETHING
>>7859309I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECESI CAN LITERALLY DRAW ANYTHING ELSE JUST FINE... BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FECES??????????????? IT FEELS LIKE I'M FUCKING DRUNK OR SOMETHING
>>7859107What's the best ref for expressions and line placement? When I'm dealing with stuff like furrowed or raised eyebrows I don't know how many scrunched lines is too much
Nothing amazing just wanted to post this sketch somewhere.
>>7861516To be fair this is one of the best threads on /ic/
>>7861582Is it really consistently that bad?
>>7862116I don't like to shit on people, but every time I pop in it's the same five homos having a social club and giving one-liner critiques that don't really help.
>>7862131Idk I try to help when someone ask for critique. Maybe you focus too much on bad stuff.
>>7861516Considering most of the threads here are /v/ tier ragebait nothing of value got lost
how do I tell if I enjoy doing art, or just the idea of being an artist and forcing it to give my life meaning
>>7859384Are you sure it's that? Does the lack of creativity manifest as not knowing what to draw when you grab pen and paper?A lot of the time, fear of failure is a big roadblock. It happens even to people who'd you consider advanced artists. A friend of mine who paints really well, and other couple people I know who have really great output, all told me that sometimes in one way or another they feel like they get this anxiety about their successful work being just random chance, and that they don't really know how to draw, and just got lucky.Often the biggest roadblock is these mental barriers. But, if you're just not sure about what to do, that's normal. Only people I see who are able to just draw something on the spot, are people who draw constantly. But you said you get the urge to create art. Doesn't that urge manifest as ideas?I myself have been trying to just not think and draw more. Currently just throwing myself at painting random environments to practice contrast and color mixing. But even with that clear goal, there can be a lot of hesitation.
>>7854981People who like to draw don't think about the title of "artist" except when they try to show other people their art and they say "wow! So when are you going to work for xyz company???"Artists only call themselves artists when they're making money or literally still a kid/teen and think they're going to graduate and immediately make money off of their art... Or have a high school mentality and think calling themselves an artist will get their parents pleading for them to get a job to stop.
>>7854981dip your toes into other creative hobbies or ones that require hands on input like model building, car repair, or wood working and see if you enjoy that more
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>>7854981Nobody who actually enjoys art has to ask if they do or don't.
This may be a stupid question but, What makes a pose express that a person is feeling awkwardness or that is uncomfortable?I've tried to look for tutorials or comments about this but everything is just about dinamic poses and most of those look relaxed or confident.
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>>7857590I want a tomgirl gf so badly... I think I found my calling... To draw cute flustered tomgirls...
>>7857590look into body language and character acting stuff. Usually, a closed off or "inward" pose expresses discomfort (think arms crossed, slouched, knees turned in, chin down) almost as if a person is curling up to protect themself and hide from the world. Try making your character take up less space - notice how in the reference image, the character is surrounded by blank space on either side and their arms are squeezed against their body. Conversely, "open" gestures signal confidence, strength, and relaxation. This is pretty important knowledge in communication and business jobs too, as your body language really does make a difference on how you're viewed. Our monkey brains are hard-wired to look for signs of hostility or fear, which could signal a nearby threat. Next time you have a conversation, try actively thinking about keeping an open and relaxed (but not too relaxed) posture, and you'll notice people will be more amicable and take you a little more seriously. It also subconsciously helps you feel more confident. bottom line, inwards/defensive poses are what you're looking for, so try to avoid having outwards facing body parts or wide stances.
>>7858092Are we looking at the same image? If you look at the skirt the folds from where its pulled down are much more accurate than AI is likely to produce and theres slight transparency showing the outline of her hips. AI would have major trouble doing that on account of the fact it lines up with the legs while being subtle. the ankle might be weird but that could be explained by maybe taking a break in the middle of the process and a bit of tunnel vision
>>7859718>tomgirlAnon... that's not the same as tomboy.Unless you're a chaser I guess, then go right ahead.
>If I start right now as at 0 experience, how long would it take to escape /beg/? nigga
>>7862081You're probably completely retarded if you can't do [Thing] properly after 1000 hours even
Scientists recently came out and said the 10k hours thing is bullshit and you get good at stuff way before that
>>7862070what does tmmswe have to do with howies and drawing???
>>7862058fucking noWhy can't you people set realistic goals? It's why you can't stick with it, you expect too much and put yourself on a timeline. Draw for today.
>>7862070There is Hope (Keep Hope Alive Edition)
Im drawing things you people couldnt even begin to comprehend. These things defy all known laws of physics and break the calculations of the human brain.
>>7862005Stop making your mother cry.
>>7862005That looks like a cat I have one of those
>>7862005Kyubey?
>>7862005show feets
just be female on 4chan bro
Post work stations
>>7861847not enough funko pops for your taste?
>>7862016A funkopop would be less corposlop than that desk. It looks like the office cubicle no one works at. All the personality of a freshly built McMansion.
>>7862018a desk doesnt need a personality, it has to be functional. this allows me to work long hours both at my remote job and when drawing. i dislike decorations and clutter. have a nice day
>>7861768Looks like my desk, except with books next to the monitor. Was thinking of getting another monitor
>>7861768winner of this thread
