General dedicated to posting and discussing art of either:1. Manmade objects, vehicles, tool, weapons etc. (of any kind and any historical era, as long as they fall in the ballpark of "technology") and fictional derivatives of such2. Objects,vehicles, creatures etc. that aesthetically fall into the visual space of mecha/robot/artificial/cybernetics etc. regardless of level of realism.Helpful to mention the level of realism, if any, you are taking into account in the art.
Drawing machine stuff is oddly therapeutic once u get the hang of it
>>7905074agreed
WIP small fox gunship
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>>7738265freaking savedany advice on how to draw more? it feels really hard when i draw like shit
I'm struggling with these extrême angles
>>7908805You can’t. I’m not trolling. Stop trying to use perspective nonsense like vanishing points for this kind of thing. No one does that for human body. It’s 100% feeling.
>>7909160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY
>>7909129Good post
>>7909129You're wasting your time on literal beglets that will never understand what you're talking about.
>>7909129I found it difficult to build up a figure from shapes without it looking wonky until I saw this section from Loomis. Which is basically what you said.
>So Lately I've been wondering how getting attention for you work on NG actually happens,>I hear mostly that if you keep posting reasonably good art and other works you will eventually get a following, which has sort of happened but I see people with tonnes of fans and very little works put out, I have put out 121 artworks, not to mention games and animations too and lately I've been posting every few days with me making my Graphic novel, but most of my artwork doesn't get even the 5 vote necessary to get a star rank and my views rarely reach above the mid twenties, and I've only just reached 40 followers after posting for SIX years.>My artwork isn't of low quality or anything and take quite a lot of effort and I'm pretty sure I'm scouted too.>I don't really know what's going on? What am I missing, how do I get more attention on my works?>I'm sure if anyone knows me and people with similar problems would be happy to know.Can anyone help a poor artist out?
>all art must be the same homogenized commercializedwew piggy
>>7907884I'm genuinely not trying to be a shithead when I say this, but you need to seek critique more often when you lack this much self-awareness about the quality of your work and adjust your expectations accordingly.
>>7908184Harsh. What happened to everything by everyone?
>>7908184the scouting system ensures that people who put effort get in, there's plenty of beg art and if someone thinks you care about your beg drawings then you will be scouted. Its not like deviantart which acn be a storage site for screenshots or stuff thats barely art like hyper specific fetish ms paint stuff thats used to cope.
>>7908180>>7908263>>7908382>>7908538>>7909008PYW crabs
How do I stop chicken scratching?
>>7907639The fonts look uncanny. Try the white ones with a thin black outline. Meme staple
>>7907417This is actually good
>>7907659Thanks blud frogs are the best. Sometimes I wish I was a frog and could spray my sperm into a female frog while sitting on her
>>7903412BIIG PAPER. Paper is superior to digital art when it comes to practicing things like this. And think before placing down a line
>>7904043I was roughing this one out right when my old ass tablet finally gave out on me. I can't get a new one for a while so I'll just post it.
Previous thread: >>7786013What is /ALT/?If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.>Rules & Guidelines(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.------>Community Resources>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
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>>7905741I just lost the energy to even engage with people let alone /beg/'s and honestly just unserious people who actually care about the real arts
15 years ago it was feasible and real that you could build a small but strong fandom on deviantart, webtoon, tapas, pixiv, ect who shared your obsession or liked your style, you didn't have to be fucking pro level just to build a small following or even get your foot in, you just had to be awake at the wheel and put some effort daily, but with internet now coalessing into like 5 sites, thirdworld getting access to the internet, AI, normies becoming tech illiterate, it feels like a fucking crapshoot when you put anything up anymore, like it's an all or nothing. Followers mean nothing, you can gain followers but your posts can have zero activity, is there even a path forward through this shit without total web 2.0 collapse?
>>7909076You'd be right if they were consistently better or more skilled. They're not. As a matter of fact, the only reason they're even employed is because they're paid like slaves. Once again, as always, it's the shareholders ruining this country. Extrapolate from that as you will.
>>7909202Yeah our entire economy operates on "good enough" because quality = expensive and "good enough" = more profit. I don't know how people can actively defend this fucking bullshit. Companies that are on American soil should not be actively doing everything in their power to fuck over the people they leech off of. It's the fucking Jews. Unironically. They were always right we were just too blind to see it until the whole Israel situation made it apparent that these fuckers will literally want to start WW3 because "muh holy city" needs to nuke the whole world to cleanse it.
>>7909205don't you know that criticizing israel is antisemitic?? ur a literal nahzee!!!they'll set up more bullshit laws + internet global ID big brother so you can be put in jail if you say the slightest thingall thanks to normalcattle
>>7908927Women dont blame third worlders, they rightfully blame men.
>>7909010imagine being dumber than a brownoidthird worlders infesting the internet made art shit how exactly?they have no money, so they're not driving the demand, and if they're driving the supply, it's because the people with money demand what they supply
As a visual learner, what are some good resources (channels, videos, courses, whatever) with timelapses that show every step of the process?
>>7909207>"As a visual learner"Get away from this idea that pictures are visual so there's no need to read. Im not crabbing here, at some point you're going to have to read, and if you don't, then learning to draw will take 10 times longer. Videos can be helpful, but if you're not reading, you're not putting in the basic level of effort required to learn this shit.The worst thing is that the reading in most art manuals is very limited, maximum 100-150 words a page.With that said, I'll throw the Morpho BOOKS in for figure drawing.
>>7909209>With that said, I'll throw the Morpho BOOKS in for figure drawing.I guess I was thinking a timelaps of the entire drawing, from the basic sketch to coloring and shading, just so that I can have an idea of what drawing entails and how every part of the process is layered on top of each other from the very start.
>>7909212timelapse*
you can find shitloads of timelapses just by searching on youtube, for anything.>how to draw thingand you'll find timelapses. many artists also post timelapses on their social media.pro tip: you're not gonna learn much from that unless if you've already got most of the basics down well and you're looking for something specific like how to render/color digitally or for tricks/refinements you can apply to your process.reading is important if you want to actually git gud as first post said, especially from master artists & good instructors like Loomis.
Post any drawing from your sketchbook. Doesn't matter if it's a doodle or a drawing. All skill levels welcome.I drew Morrigan from Darkstalkers back in 2024. I was high doodling one day and I guess it made me more confident to try something new. I drew this with 0 references or anatomical knowledge. Never reached this Zen state again sadly.
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>>7908072Damn I even tried to draw the sweat drops in perspective I was really cracked for a sec
>>7908663Nicely done
my most recent ones :P
1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)Previous Thread: >>7812555
>>7906247I drew a quick one
>>7909534Holy fuuuuuck bro, what a blessing. Thank you so much! I'll try to draw one of your Japexicanese hotties soon. Also, what brand of acrylic markers do you have? Any tips or recommendations?
She was popular a while back, I wonder if you will like the new design?
>>7909126This one has not been posted yet, but i post art on my personal discord server and twitter.
I need to invest in a scanner :/ >>7909585Wahh thank you I love him! Especially the pose and composition it's so cool!! You spoil me truly zombie anon T_T I have ur thank-u drawn but I gotta wait for daylight tomorrow to take a not-cooked picture... >>7909658Thank you I'm glad you enjoy!! I use GuangaNa acrylic markers (nabbed me a 240 pack off Amazon for like 70 bones) I don't know much about other brands but these are pretty aight so far, some colors are a little more "watery" than others, and the layering might need extra passes but overall they get the job done, just a bit of fiddling to get used to. As far as tips I'd say that acrylic generally dries darker than when they're first applied so you'll definitely want to swatch them before use. For reccs I'd look at Amazon reviews of either these or Grabie (the youtuber I saw (sloeou) uses those but honestly just watch swatch reviewers, I only bought mine cuz I was in a rush lol) Also, no pressure, but ty I am flattered you like my blorbos!!
What's your way of breaking down the body IF you don't rely on heads too much? Feel free to post other people's mannequins here too.Optional questions for internet bonus points:>What's your thought process when breaking down the body? >How did you arrive at your personal conclusion?>What part of the body do you start drawing first?
>>7909070I struggle with breaking down the lower area of the body. My characters just don't look like they're standing on their own feet or out of perspective
Quick anon! Draw something with your mouse in MS Paint!
>>7908001Bullets are not edible, anon
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>>7909082This Alucard has some feminine vibes to my eye. Best drawing in the thread so far
all that you need is this, and pc
>>7908347okay but there is a difference
>>7907679help with what? either fix it or get a new one.Bluetooth has latency always will just use the wire.
>>7908537Top looks better on my phone, and worse on my computer monitor, oddly enough. But my computer does use a 10-bit output with HDR.Point is, all of the precision in the world isn't going to change the fact you're outputting your stuff to 8-bit formats. And 16-bit and above will be downconverted and you will be left with banding. So dithering will always be necessary to produce good-looking output-quality results. And mathematically, it makes sense. It's either just discarding the least 8 significant bits, or it's rounding to the 16-bit data to the smallest bit in an 8-bit format.Now, that said, if ever you decide to output exclusively to 10-bit HDR, your 16-bit art will be perfectly primed for that.If you still want to output to 8-bit, try applying a subtle noise to your image. It does a great job at breaking up bands, especially on 16-bit data.
>>7908347this is my issue with digital artit's an incredibly powerful tool but i dont want to have to know this shit to put colors on a (digital) canvas
>>7909004Traditional may not have the same issues that Digital has, but don't act like it doesn't have its own set of problems to deal with. Besides, if you want to publish to the web, you're going to have to Digitize it, and deal with the problems and gatchas of digital anyway.
Why you should not trust youtube shills:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.Recommended tablets:>Screenless:Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom>Display:Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 LiteMedium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7901181Interested in your results anon, follow up when you can
Always worked on a 13 inch screen tablet my whole life due to moving around a lot, but finally feel like it's time to upgrade to a bigger size.What screen size should I am for? Saw reviews for the Wacom 24 inch Cintiq Touch/No Touch doesnt really matter to me, but I also saw there's the newer Wacom Cintiq Pro 22 Inch with those extra buttons. Anyone use the newer models and recommend them? Or should I find a used 24 inch Cintiq?Currently using a Wacom Mobilestudio 13 inch, so I have the Pro Pen 2 stuff. What I'm really torn about is the new pen thing that the newer Cintiq Pro's have, is it a big difference?
Drawing on a screen is better than screenless but it still kinda sucks tbdesu. I'm starting to think trad lineart>digital coloring is the way to go.
When does this shit go on sale?
>>7909097it was $400 off last April, might happen again
Looking for thoughts/feedback on my comic, ty https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/142933333I'll post the first dozen pages or so here, it's about 130 pages.
>>7908448I like it...and it really makes me feel I should deep down make my comic idea come to life instead of stalling it in a word processor.
>>7908448You wrote all that? What an accomplishment!Can't really comment further without giving the story away for others here. Maybe I'll wait a few days. Well done.
>>7908479Thank you, happy to hear that! >>7908534As PAI told Sunshine, the best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago. The second best time is now. One of my biggest regrets is not earnestly starting learning earlier.>>7908621Thank you! I spent a lot of time and effort on this. There are a lot of interesting ideas to chew on. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your thoughts.
>>7908448I don't wanna say the quiet part out loud not to anger the OP
>>7908965this is a safe space, speak your mind
This spun off of the animation thread.
