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do you study other artists? if so, who?
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>>6500276
No, stop copying anime.
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I study Chris chan
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>>6500276
Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters - robert beverly hale

I want to draw manga, but I'm not a jap. What are my options? Post it online? Is it even a thing?
I tried to do a research and couldn't find anything. There's some strange western webcomics and korean cringe drama bullshit but its not what I have in mind. I've never seen classic original manga outside japanese magazines, especially something made by non-jap dude. The closest thing I found is some korean guy who now works in shonnen jump, that's it.
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>>6499223
get your comic done and come back when you've written a good arc-start o7. dont think about the readers yet. ill see you around
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>>6499147
Its hard since they are racist and editors will actively sabotage or prevent you from joining, but you can break in if you want/skilled enough. Use fake pen name though.
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>>6499263
well my initial plan was to just upload it online somewhere and try to clown my way up to gaining followers, like making some social media tik tok attentionwhoring and then sell merch/accessories/patreon donations to receive money from it
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>>6499147
Why do retards say this when manga and comics are the same fucking thing? ontop of it, it would make sense to cater to a culture you already know with your own ideas than half ass steal from some random jap
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>>6500234
>retards
there's ur answer

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What are some nsfw artist that you feel are really high level? I notice I don't see many "great" nsfw artist they usually stop progressing after a certain point. Sabu and BIGBIG are really good even though I don't wank to their stuff
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>>6497714
VPNs are illegal in China
You cannot even make a social account without presenting actual ID.
Shit's fucked
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>>6489192
A lot of genuinely talented artists stop at just making the art extremely sexy, but people making actual porn will often stagnate, probably because it's easier to get a following that way, but you can't use porn in a portfolio, obviously.

Also, women for some reason draw really high level porn. Like, amazing anatomy and poses. Maybe the difference is that women aren't entirely cumbrained and focus on more factors than just release.
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>>6499807
You and I know that most, if not all artists really aren't cumbrained.
Can't study anatomy if you are horny at nudes

Also,
>women
>high level
lol
The yaoi proportions say otherwise
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>>6499635
Have you heard of our lord tor with bridges?
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>>6499807
>people making actual porn will often stagnate
this is the worst part about porn artist, it makes me sad but some dude improve greatly over time

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Can AI actually help me learn to draw? Like if I used it for references and such? Serious question because I hate AI art but I'm getting a bit demoralized after posting my art in /beg/
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>>6499184
The only lesson AI can teach you is that IT'S OVER, YOU ARE NOT NEEDED AS AN ARTIST
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Yeh, that's pretty much all it's good for. That and concept art.
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>>6499184
what do you believe referencing random garbage ai shits out is going to accomplish that referencing capable artists, photography etc won’t
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>>6500122
>getting crabbed by a chatbot
lol
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>>6500122
>andrew loomis
Well, /ic/ seems to be in the database

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Previous thread: >>6415359

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
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It must have been a sign of the times, but I’ve always had a thing for Lola bunny


>>6493868
It’s interesting, I posted something to friends and family with my drawings and nobody liked it. It’s like I don’t share the same taste with friends and family, but I’ve cultivated them into part of my everyday life, but I have created a group of followers online that share the same taste, but I’d never be friends with them in real life.

Just funny to realize that I really painted myself into a corner.

>>6494004
You know, the only people who identify me by what I draw are you anons. Nobody else IRL knows what I draw as who I am. It’s as if nothing was lost for them, and it was only taken away from you.

>>6494851
Thanks! I missed drawing too much to stop

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>>6498429
I tried to draw a "Black" character.
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>>6499469
fuck off
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>>6500103
hello I do not think you saw my previous post!
Kill yourself stop posting never show me this revolting nu-tranny 1990 french nickelodeon garbage again!
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>>6500145
I'm getting the feeling you're not a fan of my work.
But I'll take the "1990s French Nickelodeon" part as a compliment.

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what happened to /30/ y.o. threads?
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>>6499737
Digital fits well with my current lifestyle. I only have a very small room to work in, such that my bed takes up a good majority of the space. Trying to work with paints in there would be awkward at least. I do enjoy working with pencils and marker though, and I have a bit of space dedicated to sketching.
As well, I generally like working with computers. Disregarding the social media aspect, making computers do what I want them to is interesting, and computer generated imagery (not counting AI in my case) is really fun.
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>>6499989
>computer generated imagery (not counting AI in my case)
Do you mean like demoscene visuals or something else?
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>>6499659
These are so moe
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>>6499737
I like how you did the water highlight. Surrealism is always a pleasure to see.

>30 y.o. really prefer traditional art over digital?
Youre not wrong, its very relaxing media to work with. I know there are plenty of younger people who like to oil paint.
It's one of my favorite medias to work with but I haven't painted in some years because I dont have the room. Right now I just do digital and my art has gone from a more realistic style to a cartoony(anime) one.
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>>6500033
> Do you mean like demoscene visuals or something else?
Not only that, but also fractals, procedural generated imagery, even video games to a degree. There's a lot of cool stuff computers can do that are unique and worth taking a look at.
The demoscene in particular has been a inspiration for me to keep doing artwork, the raw creative energy was infectious and made me look at computers in a very different light.

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Be sure to bother patch about registration to put your art in:
https://towergirls.booru.org/index.php

Post-free dice rolling tool that you'll ignore:
https://www.random.org/

Previous Thread: >>6302090
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>>6483430
fuck it, roll
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roll
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>>6483309
>>6483430
Rollin'
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roll
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roll

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>tfw beginning a new drawing from scrap
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>>6500076
Its a pain in the ass desu.
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>>6500081

Does you drawing program not have perspective and line tools?
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>>6500084
I mean having to constantly go up and down single steps
Its really annoying, especially at night.
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>>6500020
When I run in to that, I just start making marks on the paper. Lines, circles, scribbles, anything to remove the gunk from my brain. Staying stuck in analysis paralysis is no good.
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>>6500088

Oh, real life, gotcha. :)

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Draw this hand.
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>>6496493
I tried
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>>6493808
DON'T ATTEMPT TO DO THIS
I JUST DISLOCATED SEVERAL FINGERS
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>>6499808
basted and great job
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>>6493808
hand man jones
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>>6493808

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is this a good character design?
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>>6497318
nice bait
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>>6498282
not bait, this is how it should look, the original drawing is wrong. He forced the drawing too show to much of the sides of building, that was his mistake.
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>>6498464
imagine crabbing gerhard
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>>6494672
pyw
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>>6498527
I hope he sees this bro.

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You're already NGMI edition

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn


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>>6500299
Anon, I think the ony failure here is that you never got therapy.
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>>6500337
Sorry, I got that too.
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>>6500277
Thanks! I see now why it looks so fucked.
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>>6500278
Yeah but like anime I guess
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>>6500356
Np
>>6500371
Pretty sure it's the same shape from the back no?

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Total newfag here wanting to learn this like the back of my hand, how do I go about it? I don't even have more brushes than the default ones
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>>6499260
Not the OP but any suggested canvas size for someone who wants to do simple BW sketches?
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>>6499978
I'd just go with 1000x1000 and increase it if I need to, but I'm also constrained by my 2014 computer.
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>>6499260
Don't use it, they promised not to use AI but they are using AI
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>>6499993
I think they promised the auto shadow thing before the image generator everyone got mad at, so it's different to them.
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>>6499978

2000x1200

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Always leave text about this thread here.
It's thread
It's questions
It's answers
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies
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>>6499997
Do the projects anyway and stop worrying so much about failing.
If you're waiting to draw until you are good enough, you will be waiting forever.
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>>6500000
cant argue with those digits but there are some hings i really need to practice
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>>6500000
a GET well worth it, amen, anon. Gods of digits are telling us to JUST FUCKING DRAW
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But you have so much to teach
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>>6500000
Checked

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I think there can be some alien value to AI art. Not in any effort for perfection or replacement or general automation, but just in the utterly fascinating ways it fucks up and creates horrors a human would never make. Objects that aren't supposed to be anything. Mistakes no human would make. The general fucked-up-ness of it all, basically.

It's flawed, and that - that's its sole beauty.
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>>6496612
Because everything out of it will be generic and aping on greater work done before it, making it generic trash...WE HAVE THAT. WE DON'T NEED A SEA OF GENERIC TRASH.
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>>6493148
I agree, I find the unintentional abominations, created by AI, to be more interesting than 99% of what artists draw.
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The only thing AI generated images brought to me is an idea of how "art created" by an AI look like currently. Beyond that, may this automated insult to artistic creation burn in hell
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Stage 4: Bargaining
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>>6496373
This. We are about to see some of the biggest and most epic struggles in the coming years over this technology and its consequences.

How do I know when enough detail is added to a face? I don't want everything to look like an old person.
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>>6499925
I have the same question
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I think its really about true shapes and proportions, you can draw a face that tells it belongs to an old person without the detailed "old person" wrinkles.
Perhaps try drawing cartoonish, a bit overdone facial gestures without even thinking about it too much - a bit like croquis-style, do a lot, do them fast, do not go into detail. Max 2 minutes per face. Only once you are done with a good load, start analyzing and see if you have variety in ages and what exactly are those features that give you the impression. I've found this a good practice to gain more liveliness into the faces I draw in general, but if you are aiming to become a human printer this might be a useless tip.
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And I just realised I didnt quite answer the question, I guess what I mean is that its not the details or the amount of them that makes the subject look a certain age, its the accuracy of shapes and protortions that change over the time. If the amount of details determinates how old the subject looks, you might want to literally go back to the drawingboard and fix those basics.
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The details of an old face are partly formed by the repetition of expressions. The flesh loses its smoothness, elasticity and firmness and begins to sag. Think of the major forms of the face and of creasing, drooping or shrinkage around them. Aging also alters the general shape of the head.


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