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ITT: Post your work and your socials
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>>7894551
of course you used it to move the goalposts. You didn't attack the argument (bigots tend to be ignorant and or stupid, hence the toddler level art), and instead diverted to making assumptions on the character of the person.

The definition of a fallacy.
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>>7894553
look its very cute that you learned all of these little reddit phrases like "goalposts" "word salad" "slippery slope", but i literally just read what you wrote and concluded that you're a fucking moron. I'm not the anon u were talking to so. Im not debating you, this isnt Change My Mind you nigger.
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>>7894555
>concluded that you're a fucking moron
And this is why you are an ignorant monkey, as I already described you. You are jumping to conclusions based on your feelings, while my statement (bigotry being correlated to ignorance) comes from studies.
As I already said, you aren't equipped with the tools necessary in order to have a rational debate.
Go back to your shit flinging.
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https://x.com/rezodwel
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https://x.com/mr_guy_man_t

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I hate this shit so fucking much
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>>7896403
Do you really think people who draw porn aren’t sincere? Get real, you prude
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>>7896388
khyle is the type of artist i look at an wonder why they even bothered to learn to draw in the first place
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>>7896403
Make up your mind. Is art about sincerity and self-expression, or is it about not upsetting the collective? If art is about sincerity and self-expression, then what right have you to complain about artists expressing cynicism or appearing egotistical?
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>>7896823
yes
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>>7896826
because they arent doing it for the art. thats literally what insincerety means. these cretins think they can have it both ways and say "durr I am expressing my true self by being a massive faggot". thats not sincerity thats being a disingenuous bitch and acting like no one can criticize you

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Recently I've noticed I suck absolute ass at drawing digitally.

I don't know if it's because of the lack of control I feel, not feeling the friction between the pen and the paper or what, but the gap in quality between my art in both mediums is staggering to say the least. You can see an example of that in picrel.

I've ended up adopting a hybrid technique where I draw with a pencil and add rendering and shading digitally.

I've been wondering if more of you feel like this, be it from traditional to digital or the other way around.

Let us know how you feel about it, or if this happens to you as well.
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>>7896242
I too can't draw for crap digitally. I recently ordered an image scanner, which when it arrives should really help me scan images more consistently than taking photos on my phone. I'll likely end up doing small edits to bad smears or ugly uneven colors. I'll still do the colors and shading trad
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>>7896242
just curious, whats the latency of your tablet?
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>>7896242
your "trad" example looks suspiciously like digital
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>>7896572
I don't know, haven't ever really checked that, though I doubt it'd have much to do with it.

>>7896548
I have been thinking of buying a scanner as well, just like you I just want the quality to stay the same.

>>7896573
It might be because of the image tweaking I do. Pic related is what one of these drawings look like before any digital manipulation
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>>7896242
Try using brushes that simulate the traditional media that you are used to.

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Is it better to make comics in the traditional format like picrel? Or more formatted like in the below picture.

And is there anything else i should know? Im just gonna copy peach88 and some other guys and make short arcs with some cute fantasy girls
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Other format here

This probably is better for engagement and for phones, but looks sorta worse
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>>7896533
the only thing that i think of from this comic is that "leftists can't meme", to worldly even without a word
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>>7896533
>And is there anything else i should know?

-plagiarize
-copy
-trace
-steal
-bot views
-use AI

want more??
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>>7896703
this. your making a product not art

>>7896533
also could somebody tell me wtf is up with this guy?
https://x.com/naughty_nectar/media

hes got a new account, even across other socials. his patreons fairly new, yet hes got 1600 patrons, and the tier that gives nsfw is 5 dollars (first tier is just wips, not many will have that)

So hes probably making around 8000 a month?
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>>7896533
Whatever you do, don't make your comics unintelligible like the one you posted.

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You don’t need to be the most skilled for people to like your art/follow you. Appeal is forever king
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>>7896539
Its really funny how all these eastern artists dedicate their lives to this retarded soulless shit.

The artists themselves will just take one look at the nice anime girl drawings theyve spammed all over social media and then basically throw it in the trash and abandon it, saying it doesn't mean anything and you're an idiot for even asking. So they have no right to complain about AI.
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You want to draw "soul"
Just fucking draw it.

Why give a shit what literal animals bark about?
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>>7896574
AI is basically just soulless art at the end of the day and the only people mad about it are people that have never actually DONE anything with their art. That's why you don't see writers make as much of a fuss about AI as artists because AI can't properly make good stories. It can write well but it can't really do anything creatively well with writing.

The problem with drawing is that people get good at a technical level, stop there, and never learn how to actually say anything with their art. So when something like AI comes around and takes their job from them, they're in trouble.

Anyone who actually did something with their art rather than just generic anime girl on a white background kind of shit has absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to AI.
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>>7890542
Appeal is skill too, and that drawing surely isn't beg level, and surely too much high for several people already
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>>7896683
Even if you say something with your art, it doesn't mean people will give a shit about it. They rather goon to AI anime gitls with highly rendered pussies.

To really have guaranteed success you need to be highly talented, otherwise AI will easily be better than you

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Just wanted to see if any Anons have had a similar experience. (and to whine like a babbi)

I used to love drawing, the best thing I ever knew to do. But around 2018-2020 I started plateauing and hitting barriers I didn't manage to overcome. So after bashing my head against it and just feeling worse I slowly quit and now I mostly do small scribbles.
But I can't even do that without looking at them and feel bitter that I couldn't reach the level I wanted. It's gotten so bad I have troubling looking at good artwork without feeling down. It's not even jealousy as much as disappointment in myself.
From time to time I think "I should copy/practice something" but end up feeling like shit and quitting again. Part of me feels like I should try to just forget about it all but a small part of me knows that I still love this shit even if it hurts most of the time.
Anyone in a similar position or maybe even found a way to regain the love for art after a long block/break?
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>>7896723
>Hard to say anything when I don't know what I'm working with.
So I'm forced to go with your attitude that you are giving, unless something changes. And it's still pointing towards shitposter and that I really should stop since the previous reply.
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>>7896724
I didn't ask you for your opinions. I didn't ask for this entire thread.
Where is the artwork and critique?
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>>7896727
You are right, you technically didn't ask, but you made some retarded statements that could have used some correction, and that could have indicated a hopeless individual instead of a stuck up bitch.
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>>7896728
I want you to indicate an individual who shuts up and goes to shit up some other board, like /r9k/ for instance.
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>>7896722
>But at this point I assume you are just a shitposter shitting up a thread
Absolutely right. So don't feed the troll.

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Like I'm looking basically for notes from artists over the years that talk about their thought process.
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>>7896692
Drawing thought, drawing is thinking, and drawing on the right side of the brain

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>roughly intermediate
>feel like my skill is stagnating
>just got a real job so I can only dedicate ~1 hour a day to drawing

What should I draw during that one hour daily to maximize my gains? I've tried copying my favorite artists daily but that got me nowhere

My goal is being able to more clearly envision things before I draw them I feel like that's holding me back the most
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>>7881383
> Do people not know what the word BEGINNER means? It means someone literally just started. THAT'S IT.
Around here we call those prebegs.
It's pretty obvious anon is new around here and is using the colovial deffinitions of intermediate hence I didn't give him any shit over it

>>7881410
> we need some new terms is all, or to bring back the originally worded level interpretation, if you really need to assign these.
I agree in theory but in practice this terminology kinda stuck around the way it is and it's eazier to introduce new people to it than to have everyone change their ways.
Also indeed, prebeg, lowbeg, midbeg and high beg are a patch to fix the issue that 99.9% of artists are begs so now "beg" doesn't mean anything useful.
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>>7876718
If that's an int I might be a pro
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>>7881967
I completely agree with your assessment on the subject. To me, the fundamentals of drawing, and only that, should be the bare necessities of how to draw. Lines, basic geometry (boxes, cylinders, cones, etc), perspective and construction (the ability to combine basic geometry into shapes). Your ability to use these basics and build on top of that are inherently difficult to interpret in scales of skill.
This board has an autistic obsession with categorizing skill into levels, and it's idiotic. I'm not saying there aren't beginners, intermediaries and advanced artists, but the introduction of sub-levels and 3-tier steps in each level, is absolutely dumb and useless. We all instinctively know the difference between low skill and high skill, but the inbetween skill levels are more up to interpretation, and nobody can agree on what's inbetween "mid-beg" and "high-int". It's silly.
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>>7879568
PYW
I am the only one who has posted so far.
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>>7894893
And op

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I always take shortcuts.
In school, I crammed instead of trying to learn for long term retention. I have forgotten everything I learned in college.
I lost weight not by counting my calories and exercising but by fasting and eating only raw fruits and vegetables. I ended up gaining the weight back and more. With drawing, I simply never completed anything and "improved" by doodling. I'm /beg/ outside of drawing faces at specific angles. Can someone like me really improve?
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>>7895026
Do you want to pursue art as a career or hobby?
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>>7895028
Source?
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>>7895026
Yes. Lazy people tend to be amazing innovators because of their desire to find shortcuts in everything. Keep going anon.
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>>7896439
This. You'll go much further trying to cheat and find a shortcut than the mindless drone grinding boxes
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>>7896439
wrong. true innovators come from people fixated with efficiency. lazy faggots will frequently do inefficient things without realizing it.

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Have you drawn a face you feel its worth reaction facin'? Or seen one posted around here? Post em
>GUH!
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Have you ever done pixelart anon? What do you think of it?

I drew this today, working on eyeballing colors instead of using predefined palettes. Colors are hard when you are used to working in black and white, but i feel like i am improving.
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>>7895593
yeah. I post it mostly in /agdg/
your burning tech sage fella looks awesome.

>>7895743
nice hair highlight shapes and shading and I like the shadow dither
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>>7895743
While I tried holding a prop like that I realized it's a really dumb pose for holding a rifle. Goes to show dolls aren't the best references. At least the kung fu grip should look slightly more natural now.
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>>7895593
Woah dude this is awesome! I like pixel art but i prefer to do just normal art because its easier, but i like the result of pixel art
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How do I get better
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>>7896314
set a target (like street fighter 3 or metal slug)
and then make a game with lots of animation, and constatnly look at those sprites to see how they handled lines/shapes/hands/eyes/light etc

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Why didn't anyone achieve a similar level of fame post Francis bacon?
Is the art world now even less relevant than in the 60s and 70s?
Plus Francis's work isn't even that technically impressive. Neither is his subject matter, he was literally a masochist gay midget who enjoyed being beaten up by his boyfriend
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it takes time to become a legend
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>>7886970
>There is only one solution for this problem.
what did he mean by this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg
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Bacon’s chief triumph was, despite being born in about 1909, in depicting the swirling mental landscape of the average 21st century city dweller. Lounging bodies in dim interiors, always in flux, always separated by planes and rigid delineations, only making contact to fuck. The viscera is psychic. People who interpret Bacon as actual gore and mutilation are too literal. He was into Jung at a surface level, so I’m sure jung’s concepts of synchronicity, as well as the predictive power of the currents of collective unconscious, influenced Bacon. Specifically, his belief in the providence of chance, which was the key source of his picture making.
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some mangakas are world famous and successful. the whole world sobbed when toriyama and miura died
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>>7887324
with the advent of social media, a lot of actors began publicising themselves and it turns out most of them are unlikeable dicks. seems it was best to keep them distant.

Is there anything more pathetic lol?
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>>7895167
This >>7895164 is what I heard too. It was something he did for this "Doc" Dave friend of his, it seems. But about the rest of the "unseen" stuff he may have been drawings for decades, we will probably never know. I don't think he told his daughter "honey if I die, you can find my erotic secret work tucked in on the leg of my old desk, have fun". lol

Same with Kim Jung Gi, we will never see his porn secret work.
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>>7895099
>that he didn't want to be seen or published.
Do you know that for a fact? Are you forgetting the era he drew them in? There's nowhere for something as debauched as that to BE displayed or published, other than the homes of private collectors.
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>>7895029
These days you should always sign it since for the time being it's kind of shameful to sign AI images and most people don't. If there isn't a signature I usually assume AI gen.
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I dont sign my art because its evident that I drew it based on the style and message.
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>>7895029
I really don't give a shit.

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ITT pencils only you like
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What's a good graphite pencil for drawing construction? It should be light but also not too hard, so you can erase it well
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9B sketch stick, pared to a fine point. If you don't press too hard and maintain the right angle, you won't need to sharpen it again - that's the thing I like most about full graphites.
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>>7889430
HOLY DIVER
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>>7886316
Its this meme, played out in real time
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>>7895546
any hb mech pencil is fine

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What else do you guys do beside art? How do you manage the time and energy for art while doing school or a job?

Me:
>full time job
>full time school (most of the classes are online though so no need to travel to class for most of them)
>min wage workstudy job on top of main job and school
>medical appointments and physical therapy sessions three times a week (I have physical disabilities to manage)
>live alone so need to cook, clean, groceries, etc. by myself
>at least I dont have kids
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>>7895964
I don't do anything, yet I have no time to draw. The cruel irony is I only have enough mental energy to draw for an hour a day, the other 23 hours I'm scrolling and fapping.
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gaming
i just draw during the day and then when i'm tired at night i game until bed
it's not complicated
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>>7895977
>hearthstone
god I wish that slop didnt have such a grip on me. I can see the weird rendering and anatomy reflected in my own artwork after playing too much. evil satanic skinnerbox shit.
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Govt wagie. I bring my drawing supplies to work daily and draw when I have down time. Trump downsizing the govt so hard over the past year now means I’m irreplaceable, so I do my work slowly and just spend half the day drawing now lol. Still, I consider quitting because the pay is awful. Barely more than minimum wage. Sad, because it’d be an ideal job if it only paid enough.
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wagie wagie back in cagie


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