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How long does it take to go from complete beginner (literally stickmen tier drawings) to something like this?
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>>5022284
>>5022339
the duality of man
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all in on rendering.I can do linework like that no problem but i can't render for shit so my dream of being a porn artist fades away.
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>>5020230
5 years; 10 years if youre not talented
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>>5024437
>only 10 years
ok talentfag
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>>5020230
So it would take years to draw like this? LIKE THIS GARBAGE? Drawing is a waste of time uh.

Cat-girl this. Cat-girl that! I’m sick of all these cat-girls! It’s time we had a REAL dog-man.
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>>5024504
hot!
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>>5024504
Cats are self absorbed assholes. Doggos loyal to a fault and will risk their life for you. Doggo bromode ftw

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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making and Manga-style illustration.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.

Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).

Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>4957859


Some resources:

/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series >>>/ic/asg


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Dumb question but let's say I'm drawing a page and I see that something is off. Bodyparts/background/whatever. So how exactly do I fix this?
I would just look for references right?
And where exactly do you guys find yours because when I try to fix something like this I mostly end up googling for hours.
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>>5023594
Put it aside to come back to later or take a step back to try and figure out what you're not seeing that's wrong. If you can find a reference quickly and easily then yeah do that but IMO comics are more about speed than anything, if it takes you hours just to fix one drawing then fuck it it's not worth it, just bite it and move on.
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>>5023493
Same exact position anon, finish your ideas regardless
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>>5023493
She looks cute anon. There are more and more opportunities for this kind of stuff arising every day, so there's no need to throw the story out if you still have a plan for it. Just keep working on it and maybe even pitch / send it to some of the publishers at the top of the thread.

Mind telling us about what you had planned?
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>>5023493
Wait for next contest.

Talent and asian jeans are real! Uuuuhhhhhhh
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>>5023853
y'all still falling for this guy's shtick huh?
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>>5024037
I agree
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>>5024253
asians have cringe anime/gamer consoomer taste that consequently ic loves because they are dweebs, but it is not like europeans are making art like the old masters.
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>>5023853
I kneel before loli sama
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>>5024370
>>5024253
Autofellatio

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Going to offer some crash course advice on this.All skill levels will benefit.

Lets use a box for this lesson.

If i held up a box and asked you what it was. You would say a box.

If i asked you to draw the box, you would draw with the intention of making yourself believe the image that you are drawing conforms to what you know a box to be. This will result in in two things. Massive hesitation as you draw, as you would be so focused on line placement,which will cause you to make many mistakes.

Second if you practice this way, sure you can draw 100 boxes eventually,but you will not improve.As every box you drew held no meaning and offered no visualization progress.

So what is the solution? You draw what you see. What the artist sees is not a box, but a series of planes.

As such every box you draw, should be done with the intention of drawing and observing the planes. Not the lines but the planes. Not the edges. But the planes.

So when i hold up a box and ask you again what do you see. Your response should be planes.

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>Second if you practice this way, sure you can draw 100 boxes eventually,but you will not improve.As every box you drew held no meaning and offered no visualization progress.
What about muh 250 box challenge
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>>5021795

Op here.

About the 250 box challenge.

Imagine if i told you to write the word "construction" 250 times.


Vs telling you to write 250 words from the word "construction"..obv an exaggeration but stuck with me.


For the first example, your brain is fixated on producing the word construction 250 times. Your not focused on the letters, but the appearance of word itself on your paper.

Then if i asked you to write 5 unique words from the word construction, your brain will struggle despite having wrote the word 250 times.

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>>5019182
Check out 3d modelling. Especially how people use doll like mannequins as a starting point to sculpting a character.
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>>5019287
This
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>>5018966
Welcome to fundamentals lol.

Are there any artists that mix western/european inking styles with anime-sque (like Bengus or both Muratas) character designs?
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>>5024449
Witch hat artelier
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>>5024501
And the wolfmung guy idk if i got the name right, it's a very old manga. Anyway dont look into modern manga for inking, old manga stay more faithful to western inking.

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I made this Galvan girl OC but the hips are too thick and I don't want them to be like that.

How can I make thin hips that still look natural?

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You can't call yourself a true digital artist until you draw something good in Microsoft Paint.

Use one of the following two links and draw something:

https://jspaint.app/

https://archive.org/details/MSPaintWin98

https://archive.org/details/MSPaintWinXP
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I'm a /beg/, but okay.
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>>5021686
cute gurls, OP
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>>5021686
Blog?

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>people "studying" bridgman copying his style not realizing his books are but a reference bible full of shit you should apply to your own drawings
You are not copying bridgman, right, anon? You are dumb.
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I just draw girls with big lips and big round sunglasses idc about brodgeman or w/e get over urself
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>>5022631
Bridgman covers big asses you should check
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>>5022639
time to google 4 bridgeman pdf
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>>5022607
I can never understand bridgman's manual. Everything is so scribbly.
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>>5022639
Bridgmans most glaring quality is thiccness, his figures are always meaty

>idea came into my mind
>draw that idea
>realize how pointless this art is
>give up
how to deal with this ? I just can't seem to find meaning in my art
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>>5019865
If youre not drawing to pass some art course or you arent drawing for money in any way,its easy for it to seem pointless but in reality that work you were going to put into that art was going to make you more experienced.Even if youre not satisfied with the result or it wont contribute to anything,its still soemthing.Working on your passions and teaching yourself is what makes you different from subhumans/consumers
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>>5019865
honestly if you don't have confidence in your ideas give up, maybe you don't even have ideas at all, quit, drawing isn't for everyone

still remember. you can become an amazing photocopier
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>>5019865
contrary to some of the other advice here, I don't think you should try to find meaning; it might be counter productive and make you feel worse. Instead, you should keep doing art so you'll be ready when inspiration does hit

Also, I think that's a normal art depression feeling, so maybe anti-depressants are worth a shot
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>>5019865
stop beating yourself up. Learn to be more grateful. Appreciate the small things. Stop being a fucking doomer
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>>5019865
First, a question

Asian genes? Y/n?
If not, suffer like the rest of us

I finally decided to take the loomis pill and I cant draw fucking figures they just break my brain. No matter how hard I try they look so fucked up.
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>>5021953
Thank you will improve
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>>5020392
Happy Vlippu
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>>5021611
The problem is if I start with a head restriction, it becomes wooden.
And it doesn't help me to move away from orthographic and towards perspective.

So I start with what broadly feels right.
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>>5020329
Is drawing figures the ultimate filter??
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>>5020329
drop the loomis. learn hampton, morpho or villpu instead

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Planning on starting a hentai anthology. Where should I upload it?
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>>5024368
bump because i want to do the same thing except its a guro anthology
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>no porn comic chads to help me
Wtf. Is everyone on this board American?

Why are generally fantasy drawings more naturallistic while science fiction artwork are more often associated with a bigger attention to three-dimensionality?
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>>5023321
Most fantasy contains a lot of naturalistic environments and organic architecture/technology/creatures which gives a lot more forgiveness for fucking up perspective because there's no set formula for a tree or a stick or fur, you could argue a sword is worn out, a shield is battered etc if it's not crispy clean lines in perspective.

In science fiction, a lot of the aesthetic revolves around symmetrical design of architecture and technology which requires strict adherence to perspective, slicker lines etc.
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What could be better than having a tea party with a handsome gentleman over at his house? He loves pampering you with delicious finger sandwiches and yummy scones.He is very sweet and gentle,wanting to make you happy throughout your whole stay there.
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autism
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>>5024068
Drawing hot feminine men is my shit
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>>5024068
Based!
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>>5024068
Women don’t want that. They’ll say they do, but secretly they all want a beast who’ll take what he wants and doesn’t give a fuck about their sentiments.
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>>5024068
so is this a my style-your style thread?
do I get to draw porn of him or what???

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Why Is there much hate towards western animation on this board? Even in modern times they get to made unique and experimental series that are pretty much impossible to do in modern anime
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>>5024286
well... that and the fact that americans are mostly soulless, so location wouldn't really matter anyways.
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Anime is for teens, whereas modern western animation is for children.
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>>5024330
And what is for adults?
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>>5024404
Starting with the Greeks.
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>>5024420
But I did that as a kid
I got up to nietzsche and they convinced me art is the pinnacle of human existence




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