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Post artwork you've made in traditional media for critique or just for funsies lolololol
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>>5363907
Pro tip:

You're going to get more out of classical contraction drawing techniques and 'blocking in' tutorials than you'll get from Bob. Nothing against what he's doing for his average viewer, but if you're going to put that much effort into learning landscape painting, there's a much more effective way to get to point B.

I legitimately want you to improve because the effort is there and you obviously want it. You've probably gotten all you can from bob, and should move on to other lessons. Seriously, you're at a point where you should learn from a professional or educator because you're going to work your way into pigeonhole techniques.
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how do I take good photos of my art?
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>Japanese parliamentary brawl I did in February
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>>5377011
Nice
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>>5373748
Abandoned that woeful sketch and am working on this atm:

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Is it possible to be a person that makes fundamentally unappealing art no matter how well you've mastered the fundamentals? Even if said person deliberately works on making things look more appealing but gets nowhere?

Trying to get good seems like a pointless endeavor without a fundamental sense for appeal.
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>>5375012

It's not really subjective, more of an intuition or taste that naturally leads an artist to make choices that create objectively appealing art, things with mass appeal (or something that appeals to a certain target audience really well).

I'm wondering if it's something that can truly be learned. If it's more of a personality thing, or even IQ related. I'll see /beg/ art or work that's filled with weird technical errors, but then gets constant praise on this board where people seem to love it anyway.

>>5374999

> You can, on some cases, have a very weird aesthetic sense that makes you think what you draw is "pretty" while everyone wants to vomit. Pic related is a good example, probably a woman with self-imposed mental issues around the thematic of beauty.

Hmmm, maybe that's just what it is at its core? Appeal driven by what people find beautiful, a belief that forms naturally based off who they are, that might not be so easy to change.
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>>5374946
>Even if said person deliberately works on making things look more appealing but gets nowhere?

Explain your process
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>>5374946
Called being you OP
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>>5375003
those dead eyes, bored expressions of a 3D model traced over
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yes, there are many artists with great technical skills and garbage subject matter/taste.

Who are the best old masters to study for figure drawing?
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no
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man I wonder if I what kind of result I get if I study old masters' figures and then do furry coom
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>>5377089
Cringe post
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>>5375392
>they ousted Vilppu from the department head office because of his “conservative” outlook
Is this real? Man, I knew calarts was garbage but that just sounds too retarded to be real
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Grub best color grub of tribe
Leonardo put meat club in grublings instead of wood club in four legs like grub
Grubanon is crab, grub flip over, smash with rock and eat

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I really really REALLY like the character proportions (and characters design) in this drawing!!
I cannot find a proportions tutorial that teaches how to draw these exact proportions!
Please, dear anons! I ask you because the author is offline for 5 years... Thank you in advance!!!

I really want to draw like in picture related! It's my dream to become like this artist. Thank you again!!!
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Use the head as a measuring tool.
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>>5372282
Proportions is just comparing a measure you choose (head height) against another (character height) and you get the result (five an a half heads).
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>>5371289
use your eyeballs. you HAVE to train vision in art a little bit every day. if it looks fucked up and you need to finish you can use a ruler, but if you handicap yourself by only being able to use direct physical measuring devices instead of being able to eyeball distances and proportions you will never be able to draw anything at a reasonable pace.
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oh shit i just realized these are characters from yandere simulator
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>>5376936
OP is yanderedev asking us how to make consistent drawings, he forgot how to do proportions

Post the art here that you loved, but have no idea who the artist is. Please feel free to provide sauce to any and all you know
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Someone please help. Saw this in video and have no clue

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Just wanted to gauge the best places to post. Also would be helpful to say what kind of art you make as well.


Me (hentai):
twitter
pixiv
hentaifoundry
deviantart (starting today)
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>>5376004
It's good to face your fears anon, it builds character. Also popularity grows so slow (generally) that you will hardly notice.
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>>5375049
Does she like your drawings?
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>>5375031
>deviantart
it's pretty dead anon,and I think that you can't post porn there
>hentaifoundry
it's worth it to post porn there?

Because I tried newgrounds but I got almost no interaction compared to pixiv and twitter,so I left it
is HentaiFoundry any better?
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>>5375031
Here
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>>5376356
honestly not really.. HF is pretty dead as well but I just post there because it's nostalgic. probably will stop soon

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How's he so good?
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>>5377208
I'm happy for him, an artist being crabbed on /ic/ usually only means that they've made it big (or very close to doing so)
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>>5372660
thousands of people thinks that eating shit is hot. what is your point?
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>>5372226
is this a helltaker fanart or OCs donut steel?
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>>5373186
sopa de macaco
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>>5372442
i know what you mean, they always gave me that weird feeling too. It was always like meme of the week sort of shit. Never really pushing any kind of boundaries, not at all saying he's a bad animator but eh just.. milktoast reddit tier

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Is struggle an important part of invoking "soul" into your art? I've noticed artists with certain mental disabilities might not make the most technically skilled art, but I always find it interesting. Pic related is some schizo I found online's art.
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Soul = cute girl with huge anime eyes in a woobly style
*EVERYTIME* someone talks about "soul" here, it's this.
Also works with generic landscape with a cute girl on it.

You guys don't give a shit about woobly scribbles if the subject is more grounded or masculine. You're trying to be "artsy" but this is just another kind of coomer mindset. There is no difference between that and hyper smooth rendered anime girls. At least the second guys are honest with themselves
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>>5377209
I think what imbues your art with "soul" or finding an art style ultimately comes from learning how to have fun with the creative process.
It's a bit like the process of growing up. You start off naive and unskilled, but good at finding things you enjoy. Then you recognise your own inadequacies. So you work hard to become an adult by taking on important responsibilities (fundies). Then combining your new knowledge with your childlike sense of fun. I think most people (including me)find the last part hard, because it involves throwing away some of what you've learned and showing the world a more genuine, vulnerable version of yourself.
It seems to me that people who care less about the judgement of others and their own self-judgement create "soulful" art more naturally.
To trust in the process, and just let your well-trained hands make the marks that feel right.
At some point you have to divorce from pure realism, because that's what cameras are for. What makes art interesting is how the artists mind has distorted reality, deliberately or not.
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>>5377240
I kinda like the wobbly line style. There's a level of confidence required to loosely represent stuff and just let the viewers imagination figure things out. It might be because they don't have the skill to do it realistically, but hey-It looks better than most chicken-scratched realistic art.
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>>5377209
none of those drawings have “soul”
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>>5377293
>It seems to me that people who care less about the judgement of others and their own self-judgement create "soulful" art more naturally.
>To trust in the process, and just let your well-trained hands make the marks that feel right.

To be honest i like all of the oni girls this person drew, actually it indeed has that soul feeling.
But if i drew anything alike i would call it garbage and crap absolutely fucking bizzare why my mind thinks so if i would make it, but if someone else makes it i like it.
I already notice symmetry issues, one eye higher or lower on these drawings and things like that which just kill any fun.

Idk maybe im soul ngmi forever fucking shit i would need absolute mastery over my medium to just not fret over all the mistakes and be annoyed

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So after doing 24h of vilppu and practice his processes a lot
For someone who is 21 y.o and stuck in tons of university work and want to draw comic/manga style
Does this gonna help me or it just waste of my time and I have just to copy ,reconstruct and study my favorite artists
Please help me guys I'm really confused
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>>5377244
Actually I'm aiming since last year to deal with drawing as a serious thing (like my schoolwork) and if you ask me , I really didn't want to study in this field I just done it because it's the only fucking option I have and also the pressure I'm getting from everyone since I got a good result in my baccalaureate sooo i have to choose a university that will grant me a "futur " like my parents said and even if I don't like it and spend the rest of my fucking time study things I don't really like , studying just to get good Marks and be on the top of my colleagues
Is that achieve my happiness ?
You have to see me and judge , I'm a really good person at hiding my feelings in front of everyone but deep down I feel chained and depressed as fuck , a wasted potential
Sorry if I talked too much but I feel a bit better when I talk here since no one in my shitty family (my parents are divorced) wants to listen to me because they want just a degree and good results and except no other thing from me (my worst ever result was 15/20 when I was 12 and got grounded for it )
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>>5377262
Well, I won't give you any advice anon. I'm not qualified to help you. I think it's important to think about your future while balancing it with doing what you want to do though.

I never went to school and my employment prospects are pretty much nothing. I'll never have a good job, good house, and I'll never be able to afford a family. I had to come to peace with that. You're young, so you have a lot of time to get things going and do things right the first time. I'm sure your family wants whats best for you, but they should listen to you more when you want to talk about your feelings.

Life sucks, honestly. I wish I could help.
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>>5377273
Thx
I hope things get better for you soon
And I'll consider your advice
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>>5377166
What course did you take?
/beg/ here.
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>>5377388
Vilppu
And lot of books (you can find them in the artbooks thread )

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>When you realize Vilppu has a YouTube channel and you never knew
https://youtu.be/fUgPTy0LS0E
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>he doesn't know that vilppu has a twitter account and instagram account
>he doesn't know about the documentary being made about vilppu

no....
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Still ngmi OP
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>>5377120
I love his wheezy-ass old man voice
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>>5377120
>tfe he hasn't post new content in 5 years
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>>5377295
Vilppu's talked about the same things for 40 years. Spherical forms, box forms and cylindrical forms. Feel the form etc.

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ITT anatomy that makes you wince in horror
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>>5377146
pic also related, bit more advanced but still possible, if we're picking things apart here I'd like to point out how she has the body/proportions of a child
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>>5377146
I once did this drawing of tracer basically touching her toes and I got a comment like that.
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>>5377154
I'm sure the same guys think those "mating press" pictures with the girl putting her feet straight up behind her head aren't super uncomfortable either. Imo its harder to have flexibility in the glutes/thighs than it is the lower back
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>>5377032
u-uohh
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>>5377149
>if we're picking things apart here I'd like to point out how she has the body/proportions of a child
Yeah so I'm not the only one that thinks that, then. Manga is weird and it's hard to tell sometimes but this is really giving me pedo vibes too.

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/10/19/the-empresss-new-clothes-leftist-self-worship-and-the-cult-of-artemisia-gentileschi/
>The cult of Artemisia Gentileschi is a product of those leftist ideologies, celebrating a painter who was mediocre at her rarely achieved best. And just as Gentileschi’s art was not beautiful, nor was Gentileschi herself. She looks masculine and muscular, with high testosterone that may have given her the ambition and drive to promote herself in a way that her art could not do on its own merits.
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>>5376498
>>>Okay, has anything this guy has done proven to be worthwhile at all to give his definition some weight and legitimacy?
Have you?
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>>5376504
So what? Their problem.
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>>5376504
It's true, I can confirm it. I used to sexually abuse plenty of ladies on the bus and public transportation. They clearly didn't enjoy it, with their faces and all that, some even cried while I was doing it.

Is good to know they can find support and someone who can understand their felling, I may see then as just sex toys but that's just my personal view, if they find this type of art empowering is even better, makes me feel quite good for myself to shown to some lower individuals how to truly appreciate art in a personal and emotional form, they should thank me actually, I don't think they will, women don't get this type of thing really well, but that's okay, i'm just happy I did my part.
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>>5369832
>How exactly is modern, abstract and non-realistic art "subversive"?
It's not - not anymore. In it's day modern art was basically throwing everything out in favor of novelty, and consistently deriding traditional methods and skills to the point that a lot of people believe those skills are valueless or unnecessary to make art. Nowadays rejecting the old ways represents the establishment in a lot of places, both in academia and in gallery spaces, but continue to push the narrative that they're doing anything new, interesting, or meaningful, as they strive towards more and more ridiculous novelties to continue along the avant-garde.

Anyone actually doing anything interesting or novel is working in illustration or graphic design. The goals of the entrenched modern/post-modernists are outside art entirely in truth, since they want to control the narrative and grift rich people for easy money.
>>5369907
This lad knows what's up
>>5371933
Would explain Judith Slaying Holofernes.
>>5373547
>If a child puts hours and hours of serious hard work into a painting. The painting is going to be ugly as a fuck because a child doesn't have the technical skill. But the painting is still beautiful.
I still have some of the shit I made as a child and you're wrong.
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>>5376898
I held your attention on anonymous Egyptian shitting in a bucket forum

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When do you get out of the phase of not being able to draw anything other than boxes with depth or perspective?
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try drawing not just boxes
if something looks wrong, work on fixing it
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WHEN YOU START DRAWING CYLINDERS!!!!!!!!!!
AND SPHERES!!!!!!!!
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>>5375843
>he fell for the drawbox meme
uh oh
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>>5375843
Practice it faggot
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>>5376028
>>5376891
>he fell for the he fell for the meme meme
...pfft

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what is the best way to make even just a little money with your low, /beg/ tier art skills?
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>>5371602
That's irrelevant, interaction with people is a skill that needs to built up, it's just harder for some but none the less can be improved upon.
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>>5374353
Go draw boxes begtard
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>>5368828
>with the exception of australia

Kill me.
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>>5365914
Based
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>>5364880
Draw the weird porn

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Why does this meme drawing of Spongebob exude such rage and hate?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srlmvS-GHv8
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I don't see rage or hate. But to answer your question; line energy.

See any linework master, they rarely go slowly, they often go fast in those well decided dynamic lines that exuberant dynamism. When you doodle you probably do the same since your mind is not chained to the idea of doing a good job, you just do it and feel the form, people who can draw well do the same but all their brain is soaked with the knowledge of how to do it, they just flow and feel the form like a doddle and that's how they get the line energy.

Is pretty abstract but you get it more you drawn.




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