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Post the first piece of art you currently have vs your most recent. Let's see how far we've come. still beg so go easy
left: jan 2023, first genuine attempt at art
right: march 2024
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Got inspired to draw after watching pewdipie 30 days drawing video.
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>>7123539
some drawings from 2022 to some /co/ drawings 2 weeks ago?

I remember the drawings on the left taking me ages to do too - the ones on the right take me like 30 minutes to do now? + 10-20 minutes if I colour them?

good thread OP it's nice to see progress laid out
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>>7132595
turns out these are from 2021. This witch is from 2022 - this originally took me about a day to draw - this redraw was around 45 minutes for both drawings and coloring. While the character appears more expressive now, I think original has superior coloring but I'm gonna chalk that up to the program I used, CSP compared to drawpile here
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>>7132702
Drawpile has a lot of good brushes now, it's basically a full-fledged conventional drawing program. Check out the new version and join the /ic/ Drawpile sometime!

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>>7124895
What's with that indentation between her nose and eye?

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I’m struggling to find sources such as books to learn to draw these cool artistic “backgrounds” I don’t even know how to call them honestly but I think they look really cool and I’d like to learn how to make them
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I used to fiddle around with Photoshop, finding source material online and morphing them with filters in search for stuff that I could use in Second Life. This was a texture meant for a build,and originally was an orange photo of dripping ice. I find true abstract art respectfully incomprehensible, not a thing that I normally spend the rare drawing time on,but lately I have been tossing out surreal imagery in some new comics,but I abandoned them in favor of other projects,but they have potential if I bothered to give the ideas more development instead of a plunge directly to the Comic Standard Bristol board that I have a limited supply of,then I might have continued it. I I'll post one next. It has a character drinking Chaos tainted wine,and the brief transformation sequence it manifests.
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>>7132097
It’s called abstract urban art for those who wanna know
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>>7132509
I feel like certain types abstract art have potential to make comics more interesting
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>>7132097
Have made and attempt yet? Have you ask yourself what is it about it that you like?

a good drawing is the aftermath of having fun. it's what is left on the page after you had fun with your pencil

if you ever think anything like "I hope this turns out good/is up to a certain standard of quality/I hope I become great" while you are drawing you will not make a good drawing
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I think you're entangling outcomes of expression with something on the order of desire.

I agree that what's left is a product of utensil function. here for brevity i'll say f(x) = x times "fun" divided by "I hope this turns out good" and there's like a graph where the function is in the "actually good" quadrant or the "actually bad" quadrant

I agree that desires or expectations can negatively impact creativity and I also think defining "good" with a singular judgement about whether or not I was thinking "I hope this turns out good" is an insufficient parameterization.

There are no good drawings(obstensibly, no bad drawings) there are just drawings and our values layered on top saying that the drawing is good or bad.
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>>7132601
> if you ever think anything like "I hope this turns out good/is up to a certain standard of quality/I hope I become great" while you are drawing you will not make a good drawing
Perhaps, but you'll experiment and learn stuff

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Whoever posted the Video course general thread,
FUCK YOU
all of the websites mentioned on the thread are dogshit paywalled slop and require me to pay (((shekels))) for downloading from the server like a good goyim !!

any alternative for downloading this course pic related /a torrent link and thank you??
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>>7130764
don't rely on them, they wont help you in the end

just draw
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Any course about how to animate 2D art in after effect?
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>>7131820
dang... wrong post...,
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>>7130764
this is not a beg course and is not for everyone, it is supplementary to your own knowledge
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>>7131574
use a debit card...

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I don't know any brush that can do that.
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i think its a matter of messing around with the pen pressure settings in your drawing program/tablet driver. pen pressure further into the 'soft' curve should give you that kind of line weight variety. i think. its been a while since i messed around with it

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How can I learn to draw like this?
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>>7132517
just draw
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>>7132517
you are asking how to render.

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How do I make him look more horrified and less like a confused faggot?
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>>7126838
don't look at yourself in the mirror for reference
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>>7130554
Based
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>>7127176
Some are okay but yeah, the majority suck ass. /beg/ in particular is not that helpful.
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>>7126838
my take
I've never been good with big expressions though

What are you doing? Go draw edition

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware.

>Tablet news: all's quiet on the western front

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos pro
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco 01 v2 / Pro

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq pro

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>>7132302
no way official balls crossover
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For the love of fuck I can't get my XP pen drawing monitor to only display the same shit as my main monitor. I literally had it working not too long ago, but some fucking update or something fucked it up. I can get it to work just fine when connecting to my laptop, but I want to use my PC.
The settings don't do shit and the XP pen display always functions as a separate monitor and it's becoming a real pain in the ass.
No matter how much I try to reword my Google search, all the results are people who WANT to use this feature, and nobody trying to disable it.
>everything I click on this options menu keeps the tablet displaying this second monitor
>click the dropdown to select different monitors
>set full screen
>customize screen area
No combination of any of these settings changes literally anything.
Also as an aside, my computer keeps fucking changing where it saves my screenshots and now it's saving them to some retarded "gamer" folder or something. God in fucking heaven fuck Windows and their dumb fucking updates.
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>>7132890
That's not handled by your tablet software. Change it in the OS. If you have Windows go to display settings -> change 'extend these displays' to 'duplicate'
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>>7131489
Speaking of, got any links even for your older version?

How did he do it? What is the step by step procedure to doing an ink drawing that feels like this?

Do you block it out and do the values in pencil and then volumetrically go over it in ink? How much of the thinking should be done in pencil before you go to ink?
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>>7131822
Finally, some preliminary sketches that show how he first starts thinking of his ideas. When they aren't from life he'll draw them in pretty rough like this. These pictures are all from the new book Silent Symphony. The text, according to this site, is written by art historian Walt Reed and credited from "Pen Technique by Franklin Booth" but I can't find any record of it anywhere.

https://societyillustrators.org/award-winners/franklin-booth/

>>7131830
At this time the artist and engraver world usually be separate people, a commercial engraving was just used as a way to convert an existing image into a reproducible format. If you look at Gustave Dore's work you'll often see two signatures, his and his engraver's. To understand the difference between the two I recommend looking up a video, instead of drawing the lines freehand they'll carve them into blocks with blades that they have to push inwards, so getting a straight line is much easier.
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>>7131830
I also thought booth did wood engraving until now
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Gravure style
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>>7131695
Ligma pen
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>>7131803
I don't think Richard goes into too much details: as far as I remember, for example on Wrightson, he explains how to replicate a small portion, but there's still some road ahead to make a complete copy, let alone designing a piece from scratch.

>>7131830
You have more control with engraving when it comes to making straight lines;it's also an older form of art (than ink-as-used-by-Booth, not than ink ofc), so there must be accumulated knowledge somewhere about how to control the lines, values, etc.

>>7131832
NTA; I have this one, but don't recall reading about the penciling technique (I may not have read it all). I also vaguely remember a quote about him advising his students to generously use white ink, but can't find it back (I'd be delighted if you had).

>>7131845
>getting a straight line is much easier
Yup, but controlling the values and line direction still requires a considerable effort. A slightly wobbly line won't matter too much (nta).

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Thread to study little boys. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute little boys.

Rules:
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Only post SFW shota, link NSFW and suggestive from catbox. Don't post real life references.
>Don't fight about different male body types, shota. Nobody cares.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.
>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.
Previous thread >>6791154
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oh well, i tried.
took me an hour.
it's just practice i guess
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Glasses
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>>7130757
it looks amazing but how are his glasses staying on his face
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>>7130768
i just added for aesthetic or no reason at all
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bump

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How the fuck did he go from this?
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>>7131719
Yes I do, Ely is the best thing to come from it, it's just shit beyond that.
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>>7131722
Palma is simply better elyfag
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>>7131727
w/e
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>>7119799
I hope this dude's alright. This is absolutely horrific art compared to OP pic. Guy needs a break.
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Just because you cropped them doesn't mean we can't still find the source, faggot-ass OP.

>>7132414
You're looking at somebody comparing a climactic spread to a volume extra. It's not even part of the manga itself.
https://chainsaw-man.fandom.com/wiki/Volume_17

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Put the keyboard away. Choose a picture and draw a drawing!
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>>7132393
Option 2
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Option 3

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All the "good" western twitter artists are just ripping off semi-popular Japanese artists.
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>>7132355
Who isn't ripping someone else off in some way? And Japanese culture is popular right now, so of course they're influence no.1.
You can't win with weebs, they cry when Japanese culture isn't popular, and then they cry when Japanese culture is popular.

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when should a beginner stop practicing gesture and move on to anatomy? I've been doing nothing but gesture for the last 6 weeks and I'm fairly decent at it
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>>7128687
Bad advice. Damaging even if taken seriously. As others have stated; do both. It's really that simple. They compliment eachother and you can't really master one without the other.
Unless your goal is to draw static humans standing around in the same perspective you have to do your gestures.

I'd like to see your work though. You claim you abandoned gesture drawing and that it had no impact on your end result. This could be personal hubris. It sure does sound like it to me.
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>>7130934
not op, but I'll post some. these are between 2 minute to 2:30 each.
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>>7121369
So real, i never understood it. Of course guesture studies are fine on their own for any level, but combining it with anatomy and figure studies is the real juice.
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>>7131706
you are no beginner
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>>7131751
I said I am not op.

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I'm a 30yo wagie with a family and kid to take care of, how fucked am I in term of making it? Is there any hope for someone starting this late with the limited free time that comes with it? Any late bloomer artist stories?
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>>7130162
>how fucked am I in term of making it?
Depends on what you mean by 'making it', generally that's used to refer to getting an industry job, is that what you're going for? If so, I think you're going to have a hard time, if not practicing enough to get good, or having the time to build a strong portfolio, or learning technical skills needed from you (3D perhaps?), then just trying to break in - which seems like a job in of itself. You can totally do it, but you're going to have to really bust your ass doing it, and become very disciplined and follow a strict schedule, and find ways to juggle interacting with your family, and following that schedule (doing studies in the lounge-room while your kids are watching the television for example).
Know what you want to do,
Work out what skills you need,
Work in a planned way to obtain those skills,
And when you have those skills, spam out applications.

If you just mean practicing and getting good, and having hobby projects? Totally, you can do it my dude.
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>>7130162
I think you should decide the choice of whether or not to invest in this prospect on how it'll make you feel about your life from a grander perspective, rather than how long it'll take. do you want to be somebody that draws for a living? would that fulfill your life? would the absence of this endeavor feel like too great a loss in the grand scheme of things? If your answer to these questions is an emphatic "yes.", with no hesitation- then I would say that you owe it to yourself to try regardless of "being late".

You're hesitation seems based on this idea of having already missed the bus, and that you're now locked into this path forever. but the thing is, at 30, you still have (hopefully) more than half of your remaining years left to live. given even a small fraction of that time, there's an amount of free time you can squeeze into this effort and turn up something substantial; but it won't be easy. and a large portion of that difficulty will be balancing the discipline with the enjoyment.

don't look up at the peaks you're climbing towards; keep your head down at the ground in front of your feet, and focus all of your efforts on stepping forward on the ground you see, and do it every day. It is impossible not to progress with this lifestyle.
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>>7130162
It's amazing how much free time you can squeeze out of a day when you're on cocaine.
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>>7130162
I'm 31 and i started less than a week ago, so far it's crazy fun and i can absolutely see reaching my low goal of being able to draw quick rough sketches for shitposting purposes in no time. If anything, I think mature brain is pretty good for drawing purposes, I find it extremely easy to notice what's wrong with my pictures and then fixing it up is just the matter of RNGing all kinds of approaches until it looks better, sometimes googling for a tutorial on a specific problem I have. I'm drawing the same way i'm programming in day work, find issue, look for root cause, resolve issue, repeat until it gets better. It's a very pleasant process. Got an iPad, standalone digital thing is great because I can just pick it up at any free moment I get and then scribble around, even if just a little bit - i think that mention might help you with your concerns on free time.

Don't think too much and just join me on my quest for getting better, it's fun. I assume you have no need to become good in a fixed time frame, though not sure if you're expecting to go pro or not, would be easier to give you an opinion if you'd define what exactly "making it" is for you. As long as you're not setting unreasonable goals, it's an extremely peaceful and pleasant hobby, if only you'll accept that elementary schooler tier doodles are part of the process.
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>>7130162
>married
>family
Why the fuck did you do it man?
Unless you're a woman, then it's gonna be ezpz


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