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>Artist improves in almost every area technically
>Art still loses some of its "appeal"
What is this called and why does it happen so often?
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>>8030803
These are both good.
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>>8034855
this image is really fucking true. Thread over you nailed it
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>>8045792
nice projection, the artist is just using heroic proportions now
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>>8045792
>t. deeply insecure over his small stature and big ass head
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>>8030803
How many of these goddamned threads do we need you dumbasses?

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>Telegram Channel
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https://www.qbittorrent.org/download.php
https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins#readme
https://ngosang.github.io/trackerslist/

The rutracker search plugin has some nma stuff

/ic/ official torrent
>>>/t/1069595
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>>8052554
aHR0cHM6Ly9waXhlbGRyYWluLmNvbS91L29xQzhwNUV4CmJ5IHRvbnlv
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>>8052586
Wow, you're kinda dumb, huh? You think software is magic lego or something? Just mix and match random shit?
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>>8052654
Really neat. Thanks, man.
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>>8052600
try contacting one of that telegram channel admin, they will help. forgot the name but they used a dog profile pic and they helped me ripping it, got my marimu safely tho the course wasnt that great lol
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>>8042697
Fuck no. Unless you can decipher Chinglish it so fucking bad, so fucking bad.
>>8019810
>>8020710
>>8021247
Course is useless unless you understand Ancient Han Chinese. These are genuinely some of the worst subtitles I have ever seen.

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>"noooo anon, you have to understand! this horse is GOOD because of its imperfections. its crude construction and horrible execution are LE SOVL. depicting something the way it would look in real life in SOVLLESS! art is about FEELINGS, not skill! there's no value in art that's made with attention to detail and accuracy! you should become a CAD engineer or doctor if you care about mechanical or anatomical accuracy! there's no place for autists in the art community!"

i know this is /ic/'s consensus, but is this really how artists in general think? i feel like the only technician in a room full of performers.
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>>8050147
sure. i have a few examples here
https://itaku.ee/images/1315188
https://itaku.ee/images/1317896
https://itaku.ee/images/1256622
https://itaku.ee/images/1348257

floor plans are all mine, but the exteriors are existing 3D models or orthographic drawings. they're not the best (you should see TattooedHobbit on DeviantArt, they're the best!), but i try really hard to measure stuff out.

i'm getting my next project mapped out in 3D so i can make the interiors perfect instead of me just trying to guess based on external features.
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>>8050151
zoz
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What in the ever-loving fuck are you talking about? Just draw, faggot.
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>>8050151
perspective is fucked up, which is strange considering people that are so anal about technical skill are usually hyuge on perspective
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>>8050142
>but is this really how artists in general think?
Well, there's a lot of terribly shit 'art' out there, but I think either something has appeal, or it doesn't. The more technically proficient an artist is, the more likely they are to draw something appealing, but that doesn't mean it's the case 100% of the time.

That horse, for example, as goofy and ugly as it is -- does have a charm to it.
I would pay for a poster or painting of it, but I would find it charming as a character in a comic.
So I suppose appeal is also dependent on context as well.

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Why are pro mangakas or even just high/master tier social media artists who only got published/started posting at 30+ that have actually great art skills so hard to find? The only exception is basically just Sako Toshio
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Here the art skill of two other notorious mangakas who started drawing late in their late 20s and got published 30+ for comparison btw.
It's fucking scary that 90% of western social media artists mogs them purely on the art skills side of thing
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>>8049841
>it’s never too late to start
biggest lie in the west
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>>8050080
And yet they're famous mangaka who actually produce something of value instead of chasing engagement on social media from deranged coomers from third world shitholes
>>8050084
You'll die having produced nothing of value with that defeatist attitude
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>>8050092
I can understand Koji Mouri, but Okamoto's writing is even worse than his art lol
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>>8050094
Yet everyone and their mother have heard about Elfen Lied

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Is my art good enough to make a porn game yet

I've started learning how to draw almost 2 years ago from 0 experience with the sole purpose to make a porn game
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>>8044338
>And it takes longer to learn amd see results depending on your intelligence than drawing
I don't think this is true, just figure out the type of coding you want to do and there are free courses that take a few weeks to complete online, these will get you some really good basics and then you can find out more advanced techniques from there
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>>8037479
>solving curing cancer and alzheimers with ai
that'd be cool but that doesn't mean I now suddenly have to like low effort aislop hentai generated by browns
not sure why it has to be "either you like all ai or your hate all ai" thats gay
you're gay
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>>8031567
huniepop was a smash hit and their art was not very good imo. yours is quite good, the only critique i would give is your fingers you seem very unsure of yourself whereas the legs and torso you seem very confident. maybe practice fingers a bit more

ignore everyone acting like they are better than you btw
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>>8044259
>top 18
>couldn't draw
gonna need some proof on that dog
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>>8031601
Hakotarou! wharudoin

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For people who have studied Bridgeman how did you do it? Do you know every muscle you're looking at ahead of time?
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>>8048381
>anatomy learning 3d
>not on windows
useless for me
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>>8048381
>>8048397
You can find some free stuff on sketchfab that's fairly useful, if you don't want to shell out the $30.
Here's a quick collection I found: https://sketchfab.com/introspection/collections/artist-anatomy-78a27f13a5064f61be1ca3e1325382e8
I'm sure if you spent more than a single minute, you'd find far more.
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>>8047846
assuming you're using drawing from life or some book. look at picture, read what he says, look back at the picture. you cant understand it all so its up to your interpretation. or just trace it easiest way
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>>8047846
I just try to copy the basic structure and when I get to the details ask "does this look right?"
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>>8047846
Ah, this must be the containment thread. Nice. I doubt there's a single "right" way to do it. For some of the book I've done almost pure observation and for some of it I've done construction. For this one I treated it more like his drawing is a photo of a model, with the goal of doing a figure drawing rather than a 1:1 copy. Refining in passes (which didn't all make it to their own layer). I think the central rough figure (~45 min) mostly works, though it definitely shows off some of my bad habits and my bias for fat asses and broad shoulders in dudes. And then I uploaded a pic of the ref and "fixed" it before rendering because idk

What I've found is that when I draw from photos/life, the parts of the figure I've studied from Bridge Man work a hell of a lot better than the parts I haven't. Like in this drawing, the hips are pretty messed up in my final now that I look at it. But I've already spent 3 hours total on it and prefer to move on. Should I have skipped ahead to the pelvis before drawing all those hands? Probably

If you're dumb enough to want to draw the whole book, it's a nice scaffold on which to experiment with different materials and approaches. But I'm sure it's wiser to just treat it as a reference for whichever parts of the body you're lacking on

tl;dr >>8048027

SEPTEMBER 15
WHO ELSE IS HYPED
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>100k
>free postcard
>120k free sticker
lol
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>>8042833
So is this book released or not?
It says its in kickstarter support but this guy says its now available?
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>>8048985
>i hope when it’s released and all the /ic/ supporters get sent their copies that we start up a new thread to work through the book together, section by section to make sure we stay motivated enough to stick with it. i’d love to do this, and it feels like it’d be super efficient and effective to boost our skills the more we participate. we could even have redlines and stuff in there, depending
sure sure
but you should finish his previous course first
1st Zero Basics Line Training Camp
>>8023888
2nd Zero-to-Hero Color Bootcamp
>>8019811
3rd Figure Drawing Practice
>>8019812
4th perspective(book)

Krenz Roadmap
https://krenzartwork.com/blog/category/7
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>>8049692
Yeah seems like after the extra content at 80k there isnt going to be much more of worth
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>>8049764
Cool links thanks

my deviantart account is gassyforgod is this good
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>>8049771
>> /pol/
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I think the cop should also be fat and have huge lactating breasts
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>>8049771
/pro/

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Favorite comic/manga artist? Charlie Adlard for me.
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Japon es cagada, their media went downhill once they prohibited legal psychedelic mushroom consumption. Kentaro Miura and all the old guard that took over the entire genre after Disney died from jew are my favorites
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>>8047624
changes a lot but right now its Togashi
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>>8047624
gamon sakurai
>>8047636
quiet, spic
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Early Maruo was the best. When he still went full out on sex and violence.

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What are all the extra bits on classical artworks called and how does one learn to do them?
there seem to be patterns, motifs, standards. but what are they are how do you learn them?
I looked at a classical art course and it focused only on human form ... but every classical human form tends to have all this extra stuff, i want to learn that! will post more examples.
what is it called? what books can i get about it? what are the guiding principals behind it?
I might be on the wrong board for this sorry, move if necessary.
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>>8048662
>and these arent "extra bits" its the head or capital of the column.
no, there's way more bits than that which are not in the capital of the column.
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>>8049267
generally? of course. that picture? cmon guy.
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>>8048671
>>8048674
pattern books are a modern invention so obviously the architects who designed these didn't follow them. pattern books are done after the fact.
architects are more likely to rebuild based off of existing segments that have broken off.
>>8049267
saying "bits" is really vague. no wonder people have/had problem parsing what the fuck OP meant.
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>>8048028
>>8049286
>saying "bits" is really vague.
not the images of people, all the embellishments, and extra BITS.
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>>8049499
again, column caitals arent bits.
the painting on the ceiling is just painting. generally this and the stone stuff falls into the category of ornament. again, this isnt classical. this is gothic. so you should look into something of a formal history of gothic architecture to find out opinions on their preferences for points and nodules on everything, rather than clean lines and curves.

try some Wittkower:

https://archive.org/details/gothicvsclassic00rudo

you could try some Ruskin, but he might be too much into his own philosphy to be of interest.

Post your DPW (Drawings Per Week) rate.
Anything less than 60-70 is ngmi territory.
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first of all it's never about quantity and always about quality, so jot that down frog.
second of all, is a loose sketch and a fully rendered piece supposed to be the same in your useless measurements?
third, i probably do manage about 40 drawings a week, most done in my sketchbook but a decent portion digital
have a good day
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>>8048537
I am dropping like 1 a few month. But I need to up my drawing soon, need to get my creative juice going hahahaha
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>>8048537
7
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>>8048537
I draw dozens of drawing a day in my head, only 1 or 2 make it to the canvas. does that count?
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If I have a shit-ton of free time I can manage 1 or 2 simple drawings in a week.

Is it good art? Or is it a scam / cope for lack of ability?
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>>8046327
Interesting assessment, if a little bleak and generalized. I looks like you're intentionally leaving huge gaps to try and make a point.

If you can't understand a literal psyop with proof on the table vs. the light propaganda of the WPA, I don't know what to tell you. This is also entirely off the mark from my original point in my post.

I'm still waiting to hear what makes Twombly a great artist in your mind. I'm genuinely curious.
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>>8046473
>proof on the table
lol ok where?
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ok no facts no argument bro

i got your facts right here:

https://www.kgou.org/arts-and-entertainment/2013-03-18/historical-controversy-of-advancing-american-art-revisited

total. fucking. joke.

aint no jackson pollock here. aint no rothko. aint no ab ex. just a fucking georgia o queef and some art student league cunts.

your whole shit is fake.
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Just a bit fun then innit?
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>>8041064
>What's in the good pile?
Whatever I like.
>What's in the bad pile?
Whatever I don't like.

Recharge your art batteries with some inspiring content. A place to post and discuss interesting non-tutorial videos about art and artists. Documentaries, general art culture, esoterica, and instructional videos provided they are unique in what they show or are uniquely inspiring. Please avoid artTuber content as they are agents of the antichrist

A couple to start off:
4 Artists Paint 1 Tree
https://youtu.be/9Dg8w6gk4cE?si=kQDpMrZ1PQJTotHh

The Comic Book Greats With Todd McFarlane Part 3
https://youtu.be/ZiVFa3AufQI?si=aQjIUV8DkahZsX29

The Comic Book Greats Sergio Aragones
https://youtu.be/yzac_3Y_Tng?si=hu50IGZftnPXHtTA

The Confessions of Robert Crumb
https://youtu.be/rTOM6qzmjYY?si=3V5wcZ6LY79XkqkE
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I imagine many of you already know about this channel, but Great Art Explained is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/@GreatArtExplained
I also like Nerd With Microphone, but it's more about animation.
https://www.youtube.com/@NerdWithMic
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>>8042441
>NerdWithMic
>He hates the recess movie
Pfft, opinion discarded.
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>>8020244
>Manben
There really should be more documentary series like Manben, it's so interesting watching artists at work, Japanese or otherwise. Here's a french comic artist (Francois boucq?) video that's sort of in the Manben style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eiabJuFEn4

It's a style of watching them work, that speedpaints or streams don't capture. To actually see them at the table.
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Bump.
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>Krime Guys
I know a lot of you don't care for graffiti that much, but I do really like this guys videos on his adventures doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JfCDv6IHVY

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Is wanting to become a popular online twittercore artists who lives off their patreon a valid end goal in the first place?

I know it requires drawing what the masses actually want to see instead of what you even like in the first place, but some people are fine just being cogs in the machine as long as they live well off it.
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I follow a lot of comic book and manga artists and I'm astonished that most of them have less followers than online pin up and porn artists. You'd think actual pros would have more.
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>>8049388
Social media porn artists live and die by their follower count, so they have to put a lot of effort into their social media presence.
But for someone whose salary is being paid by a traditional publisher, they’re not forced to put as much effort into growing their social media.
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>>8048067
Who would buy this?
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>>8049535
Onions people
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>>8049545
Fuck I can’t believe I’m still forgetting about that filter after all these years

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Aaaaaaaa!

My EYES! YOU BASTARD!

(Not responsible for self inflicted injuries)
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Posting doesn't send the thread to page one anymore.

Oh,well.

(Pic was from college. Not for a class, but age 19.)
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>>8052915
lol, actually, that was really fun to read. When I was twelve I was a total retard, you had to be a freaking genius to do that clever storytelling at that age.
>>8053071
lol cool! This is great!
>>8053071
>Posting doesn't send the thread to page one anymore.
Yeah, the thread begins to "die" after reaching limit reply (300 posts) then it starts to sink for archiving termination. So you have to make a new thread, you can use the same OP post and add "PART II"
I can do it if you want, but, you're the driving artistic sovl here.
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>>8053219
We both are keeping the thread alive, but no matter how active one is, all threads sink into the Valley of Page 10? Last year when I couldn't draw, I made a thread that I posted the whole Snowglobe story and other long form stuff. But someone said " s a g e" and that sent the thread straight into oblivion.

This was from late grammar school early high school.
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>>8053382
LOL, yeah, trolls and bullies here will do that. "sage" doesn't do anything really. He was just being a jerk, he just used that "filter/code" so his reply/comment would not bump the tread. So yeah if you're all alone is hard to keep a thread alive, but here we have at least four anons being active. You can always keep making a new continuation thread. All the threads die after 300 replies of course, but the memories and artistic adventures remains. We will continue Sparky in the new thread don't worry.

That picrel was pretty cool, it has that 80's sci-fi terror flick vibe.
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>>8053382
I’m not racist but aliens should stay on their own damn planets!


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