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I feel like boys are unnecessarily nice when it comes to praising a girls artwork. They should be equal, non-biased, and tone down the creeping.
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>>4169869
I have trouble criticizing people because I am not comfortable with my own skill level. I resort to giving compliments instead. Also, fuck being a standout prince
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I just witnessed a woman ragequit an art discord because she was offended not by what it represented, but what she THOUGHT it represented.
First she was all "nice" and "just letting the admin know cause he might have put that emoticon without realizing it", then a few people said "ur wrong lmao" and she lost it.

The reason men are nice to women, besides wanting to get into their pants, is because they refuse to waste their free time trying to reason with the drama that would ensue from treating them like "one of the guys".
Some are also afraid, cause assuming it's not a random semi-anonymous community on the Internet and the woman has any inch of power (police, a boyfriend, her parents, other random thirsty guys around you), she will use it to try and subdue anyone they deem conflict-seeking (call it a shit-test if you want, the result is the same).

For the record, I treat women and men alike within a reasonable margin and have more female friends than male ones, but you don't get to keep all these mental children around by being 100% straight-forward and pragmatic as you'd be with a dude. You have to turn everything into little games, coded language, maybe be "harsh in a joking manner", so it doesn't hurt feefees, even though you actually mean it and she knows you actually meaning and appreciates the feedback, but the rituals are paramount and even characteristic of female oversensitiveness to language.

I've grown used to it, but the moment you start demanding things on top of all common courtesy I already have I draw the line.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>4168057
Well of course if its a cute girl we try to get with her.
Doing it online is stupid though.
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>>4169871
Fuck i have to save this pepe, it's way too rare and awesome
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>>4168120
>cultural norms and patronization
>Implying the first wasnt created by the second.

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Holy shit how are we accepting this? A million views? This guys is a great example of how networking over comes skill and talent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNNAnSCrrBI
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>>4169914
>>social media
>>high school

nothing ever changes
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1 - These people pay for promoting their videos;
2 - Post your architectural sketches.
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>>4170255
>>4169914
Post your work.
You sound like a seething shitskin.
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>>4170030
> complaining > drawing
quit being a waste of life
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idgi either op. he chicken scratches all his shit and he doesn't even make up for it by creating something that looks interesting or expressive. immensely popular youtube people like this develop some sort of halo effect that sustains itself on a feedback loop from plebs.

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Is Proko a soi boy or can I trust him when it comes to learning anatomy?
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>>4166890
>as I sit here practicing my baby exercises, I project my self hatred on to proko and critique his existence
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>>4169311
Proko is on a whole different level of his field, regarding his skills and knowledge of drawing. I was not trying to drag him down, I know where I stand in those areas, I will probably never have a tenth of the knowledge he has in his craft. My baby exercises are what they are, I have started out a few months ago, out of sheer interest, and to pass my time. I do not think I have any illusion of grandeur, nor self hatred springing from my state of a total beginner. But why would I NOT think and analyze the content I am listening to, and who I am listening to? Regardless of level and success, shouldn't one try to grasp the possible personal and impersonal meanings of any activity he participates in, be it art, science, any sort of occupation? So why would I not make an attempt to grasp the differences between art and craft, the genuine and the contentless, the substance and the appearance? If making an observation is off limits, what is this place for anyway?
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>>4169021
Culture isn't magic dust in the air, it is created by people. Different people form different cultures. Blank slatism isn't supported by many serious people. It's flat Earth garbage.
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>>4169724
IQ is a spook.
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>>4166474
based

I´m looking for this book

Orientalists: Western Artists in Arabia, the Sahara, Persia and India

https://www.amazon.com/Orientalists-Western-Artists-Arabia-Sahara/dp/0975978306

Help, please.
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In a animation film what comes first, the backgrounds and layout or the animation?
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>>4170225
really that first?
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>>4170130
script, storyboard, layout, voice acting for most western movie animation, backgrounds and animation.
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>>4170130
I know in anime the background artists and key animators work at the same time after the layout has been approved
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>>4170140
Damn, this is some good shit.
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http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/the-anime-production-line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LgHOUTZ8Gc
These are for Japanese animation but I hope they will answer some of your questions.

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**Don’t aimlessly study the fundamentals or anime. Learn the fundamentals (form, values, color, composition, etc.) through properly copying anime.**

How to study anime/get better at imagination drawing/obtain a style/etc.:
>Find an anime reference you like (an illustration, screenshot, anime figure, 3D model, etc.)
>Find learning material that will help you reconstruct your ref using simpler fundamental elements
>Trace the ref using that construction
>Copy the ref using that construction
>Draw the ref from memory that using construction
>Repeat the process for the same ref multiple times and mix in other refs
>After studying a lot of refs, drawing from your head will become easier

**Focus on Tracing/Copying/Memory drawing the big shapes/values/elements first then later worry about the finer details. Focus on only a portion of a complex ref first then move on to studying the full ref.**

General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.

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i was about to post but these threads arent worth posting to
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>>4170166
it's alright bb
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>>4170166
Just go into /alt/ or /beg/
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>>4170166
do it faggot
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>>4169697

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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4162131

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.3mb

thoughtful critique betters both parties. help each other and try not to get assblasted.
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I've done some torso drawings. Around 5 mins each. I know everything is off as the big beg that i am and I need help with :

1) How to arrange it
2) How to improve.

Thank you

My observation : i feel like that most of all, the rib cages are off but how to fix them?
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How do you learn from your mistakes (aside from "hey, you see that, don't do that?")
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Just found out about living in Chile, damn that shit sucks
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>>4170262
avoiding mistakes is a good way to never improve. if you recognize what you've done incorrectly and can articulate what the problem is semi-coherently, find ref on google images or by taking photos and then do studies of it until you can draw that shit without ref, without redoing lines, and without hairy, fat guesswork lineart.

looks like you have major problems drawing heads facing downwards. might want to start with that.
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Tryin out Krita more with a remake of something I made a while ago. This time with actual perspective

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Previous thread >>4158014

post your ink drawings
https://inktober.com/rules

/ic/ house guide
>Make a drawing in ink
>quote your previous day's post
>post your drawing with the Day #
>be nice and have fun

Falling behind? Draw multiple and catch up!
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Somewhere there's someone dying in a foreign land

>>4168763
>>4169528
Cheers anons, thanks for the encouragement.

>would just like to suggest you think more in hierarchies when sketching (if you did). Details are welcome, but they should happen in tandem with bigger, more defined shapes that give them foundation and gesture. Point in case is the "skirt" and the back of the head/hair, that look detailed but a bit formless.

Appreciate that crit, and I see what you mean. I'll keep this in mind and try to practice it going forward.
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>>4168049
Day 20.
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Day 19 - Sling, A beetle monster warrior with his team of pillbug cannonballs
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>>4169528
Day 18: Misfit.
Unúriel and her classmates in elf kindergarten!

>>4170216
Damn cool foreshortening.
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>>4166859
Day 19 - Sling

>>4170237
Lovely lines, really dig the design a lot
>>4170280
Very cute!

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So when or how does drawing start to feel natural? I feel like I am improving but it still seems like what I make tends to be a struggle and offputting. It felt odd at first but I went along with it expecting this to be normal but I started noticing something off after seeing how faster and machine like other people can be.
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>>4170285
How are you studying?

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I drew for 15.6 hours this week. Not TOO terrible considering it's on top of a 40+ hour full-time job, but I know I could make it 20+ hours per week if I just don't bitch out.
How much did you draw this week /ic/?
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I used to only go out Saturdays but now I've started giving up the whole weekend for drawing. I procrastinate still though. God I would kill for a garbage bag filled with Adderall.
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>>4170097
Nice dodge anon-kun
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>>4170041
I never stop.
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>>4170041
0, but this week will be 60, because that's how that works
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>>4170041
50 hours? maybe more
im sore.

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This shit is grand, why can't i find people like that on artstation, aside from https://www.artstation.com/santalahti
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>>4170119
because artstation is for corporate illustrators wanking themselves over how highly rendered they can make their generic fantasy concepts
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Details from William Utermohlen’s self-portraits, the first, made in 1967, the rest from 1996 the year following his diagnosis of Alzheimer’s disease, to 2000, charting his decline
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>>4170058
kek
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>>4170058

did anyone archive the old conceptart sketchbooks, not just the photos but the text in the posts as well? i know there are photo collections floating around.
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>>4168994
I'm definitely going to miss the Hall of Shame.
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>>4168994
welp, what a tremendous waste of a pure gold mine
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They really weren't that great, you've got nostalgia. Art you see online now is above and beyond what was posted in those sketchbooks.
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>>4170268
The nice advantage about the sketchbooks though is that you get to see the full progress of how the artist got to the skill levels they're at over the years. You got to see their good and bad drawings.

A lot of good artists on social media only uploads their best work. They never upload the drawings that failed like in the CA sketchbooks.
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>>4170272
Plenty of artists upload drawings that fail every day. Seeing one person's failures isn't different than seeing many people's failures. A lot of the art is very dated and even those that "made it" don't have great art to look at or learn from. Tremendously overrated artists.

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Old thread reach bump limit >>4135411

Rules:
>claim a tile adjacent to an already made tile
>draw the tile and post it
>tile dimension: 200x200 pixels
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finished that dick tip gave me the idea for something
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>>4169983
what a greedy merchant. took the foreskin along with the whole dick and balls
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>>4169983
>>4168717
>>4168690
Couldn't reply but this is intended to be f6 fucked up my Bad
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requesting B9
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>>4169983
Added.

Daily reminder that one of the world's most popular comics started out looking like this. Start your comic.
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>>4169646
>selling books
could you elaborate on that?
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>>4169646
Are you the anon who makes the scandinavian kids comic?
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>>4167746
I'd be pretty happy if I were able to get a story out in about ten years honestly
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>>4168993
What's your rate? I have stories with completed scripts and no time to draw, let alone be at the skill level I want. But, I have money and wondering how much it costs to hire an artist.
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>>4167578
>There's gotta be at least a couple doubtful anons here who are competent writers.
/lit/ did not care about some cat meme storys I posted but some family members thought it was funny (I'm confident they were not lying to me.) One Anon also liked a story about a prune going on rampage when someone told him prunes are not vegetables.
>I'd still suggest making smaller comics just to get into the habit of actually doing it.
I'm to emotionally damaged. I feel so much shame and anger over being unable to do things. I needed to use my phone's speech to text several times writing the post and got angry enough I throw my phone and cracked the screen.

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*Ahem*
female girls need more support in the modern art scene
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>>4166508
i lean towards drawing slightly masculine guys but i normally enjoying drawing cool guys and gals more than typical cute things.
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I'm extremely paranoid of someone stealing or referencing my style and becoming more popular than me overnight, to the point where I don't upload art anymore.
I don't know how to let go of this feeling.
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>>4169664
early onset dunning krueger
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>>4168170
me thre broder
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>can't into anatomy
>stop drawing for a year
>Get back into it, now I can't even get past the primary phase on any drawing cause it always looks like dogshit
>just want to do some lineart, so shamelessly trace over porn just for the sake of getting a primary done
>do lineart
>still looks like garbage
Absolutely seething


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