Idk why i am spending more time in /ic/ than actually drawing. Yep this is a self Portrait REEEEEEE
Have you noticed how dead /ic/ is these days?
>>7777191Yeah. I first started posting here around 2018 and it’s significantly slower than it was back then.People say it’s because of AI but the slowdown definitely happened before then. I don’t think AI moved the needle much.
>>777719190% threads in /ic/ is fucking stupid and useless
>>7777226Well it’s always been like that
>>7777191Everyone was already demoralized by AI then the sharty hack massacred the user base for the entire site.
>Make a drawing>Feel kinda meh about the result>Scroll past it today on Twitter>Don't recognize it for a second and think "Oh that's really cool" before realizing it's mine I'm not gonna lie bros, that felt pretty good, but it also got me thinking: Why are we so negatively biased towards our own stuff? Pic unrelated
It's a good feeling seeing art you created being reposted online. Also why is it so fun to draw cartoon rats bros
This one's on the mouse!
>>7775704You are your own worst critic. When you draw something its easy to get lost in technicalities necessary to make anything, and you lose sight of the general appeal of the thing you made.
>>7776028>axe on the tailabsolutely retarded
>>7777392You’re mom is absolutely reeetarted.
>>7777360If I can be an artist without a face what do I need a face for?
Banksy is garbageHe can graffiti with a stencil, big deal
>>7777379Most painters are garbageThey can paint with a paintbrush, big deal.
>>7777379It's all fucking money laundering at the high end. Fucking coomers and furries have more authentic appreciation for the arts and usually has better tastes than pretentious high society goers and money laundering criminals.>Banana duct taped to a wall>Autographed urinal>A big fuck all canvas with a black square on a blue background>A big fucking rock picked out from the wilderness (is somehow art)>Shitty graffitiMeanwhile you have fuckers on X and Pixiv doing some high level digital rendering that puts most mainstream (hand-picked) (pop)-popular artists to shame.
>draw my cute kemono ocs>show to my friend>want to post online>but i'm totally going to put them in a game someday and i don't want them to be seen as "ocs" so i can't>repeat>can't actually come up with a story for them
>>7776979>i don't want them to be seen as "ocs" so i can'tI don't understand the hang ups.
>>7777122i kinda get it, just the sorta OC stigma thats been online since the 2010s. i think theres a certain pressure in their mind aswell to make the characters more of a 'surprise' and more intertwined with the game instead of them feeling like OCs that happen to be in a game. would mario feel the same if he was just nintendos mascot and suddenly had a game?
>>7777019creating a character design=/= story telling abilities. nooot hard to understand
>>7777134>OC stigma that's been online since the 2010sdeviantART hasn't been this relevant (where this dumb gay retarded stigma originated), just do what you know, at worst you're simply going to improvise and fix it later in the future
>>7777177dawg im just saying theres some level of stigma around it, even if no one cares anymore theres still that idea of it. why you over reacting
I finally got how Krita comfyui plugin works and its FUNN.
>>7774271Honestly, it’s impressive how good AI has become. But at the same time, it makes me feel sad about my own skills. I know you’re probably just baiting, but sometimes, even though I love drawing and creating my own stuff, I can’t help feeling like AI will just keep improving until the things I enjoy doing become useless.A few years ago, when AI art first started becoming popular, I dreamed about making my own comics and having people appreciate my style. But now, it feels like in the next 5–10 years, everything will be AI-generated. Most people are just consumers—they don’t have that drive to create or express themselves. Some don’t even have an inner monologue. How can they understand the feeling of wanting to make something from scratch, to build a skill I love, and to have people recognize the effort I’ve put in? That’s what truly makes me happy. But now, nothing except consuming will matter
>>7776919>I forgot how retarded the average /ic/er isSays the guy that draws like a pre-school kid.
>>7777275Anon, the point of drawing isn’t to impress some brain dead normie, it’s to fill yourself with a sense of calm, purpose and joy. Generating coom will never produce this feeling, no matter how good it gets. The older and more experienced you get, the clearer this will become. Fear not, go draw.
Go no further anchor...
>>7777009imo?
do you still see yourself drawing in the next 5 years?
>>7771083YWNGC you will never get cancer
Yep, same as >>7769408, art is a hobby for me rather than a possible trade or life calling so I'm not stressing constantly about getting better or setting cutoff points where I'd quit if I don't "get enough" out of it. It doesn't mean I do ZERO practice, I do viscerally enjoy noticing that I've improved on something, but it's not a priority for me.
>>7771083
>>7761341I’ll still draw, but feel bad for perma/beg/s that are still trying to improve their art or post their art online. Things got even worse for art.
My one regret is that I wished I started practicing and posting more seriously beforet he whole AI generation thing took off. Cause now I feel like people will just say your art sucks, giveu p practicing and just use AI instead. I still enjoy the process of studying and practicing so i do still plan to ocntinue in the hopes of getting my story or comic ideas drawn.
For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
Is there like a rule or guide on diluting india ink or do I just sorta have to eyeball it?
What are your best tips to get better at drawing when you're really busy with life?I made little to no improvement the past year due to a really busy period, where I had no weekends and very little free time. I'd like to get back to it, but let's face it, I'm not going to have tons of time any time soon.I was thinking, maybe carrying around a sketch book so I can sketch whenever I have a minute, but this feels a bit superficial, like I wouldn't really learn from 5 minute sketches from random real life scenes, since I couldn't focus on studying the specific areas I need to improve. Also I'm really /beg/ so I can barely sketch quickly, I always need to sit at least 30 minutes.Do you have any tips or advice?
How do I use ko-fi without doxxing myself. Are there any other alternatives that let me keep my privacy. I never done anything money related regarding drawing so I have no idea how it works.
>>7777185I used another services that uses Stripe, a quick search shows that you can use Stripe with ko-fi too. Google ko-fi stripe and click the first plebbit link if you wanna see some talk about it.
is it ok to completely ignore pen pressure, i don't like drawing with it on whether it's for size or opacity, i kinda like flow though sometimes
I feel like i keep missing the hip bone when I lift legs in a pose can someone redline/explain what I’m missingNo reference used I’m trying to have bone structure part of my muscle memory
>>7777205yeah but its always basic shitanything with any amount of interesting perspective you should and WILL need reference for if you dont want it to be wrongpeople can only draw what they've already drawn before, including poses. Just because you've drawn a bunch of poses of people sitting or standing doesn't mean you can draw them running or kicking etc. Or even if you have, do you know how that kind of pose looks from a low angle or top angle? Anybody who says they do is either a veteran with decades of experience or a clueless beginner. Use references for everything as beginner and intermediate for several years because 99 percent of the time you need it more than you think you do. There's a reason why manga artists and animators will straight up buy dolls, or hire models themselves or get their company to do it for them. If you need more specific reference, use more specific methods instead of stealing random photos off of Pinterest or Google.
>>7777254/beg/ question but seriously hw much do manga or comic artists use references for example? if they had to use a reference for every panel, they'd never get anything done would they? i get a bunch of panels are just chibi drawings and basic poses, do they use reference only for big artistic pages?
>>7777152Shut up. Animators can draw from imagination.
>>7777289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8nsujR2ml8&list=PL--V7zC_sFQ8MrxEqLWwHO5o0O5rDGijCCheck out the manben videos. Lots of imagination, but also some photo refs or using a doll too.
>>7777152dunning kruger giving begs begtraps
New thread for references, old one is on autosage.Anyone knows the name of the model in picrel? Couldn't find anything with image search.
>>7775108the strangest pack everMore a photographer's hobby project - but still a few interesting ideas, to be sure.Thanks for sharing.
any catholic nun sets?preferably not too erotic
>>7776563https://gofile.io/d/tWgQLo
>>7776566female hands wrote this post
>>7776923This but extra erotic
Previous Thread: >>7705770If you are a beginner, please use the /beg/ general.>>>/ic/begPost your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7776932I think the candles close to the viewer could be about 20% smaller? Not sure, it does not break the perspective but i think it would look more natural.
>>7776937Thanks think thats helping! Will update here again when I have a proper shadow and light pass in
>>7776937update. Hows this?
>>7777039Looks great! Corny, but great
>>7777039really fuckin cute.
Can someone please explain to me how, in the 90s, with very limited hardware and software, these incredible illustrations could be created, and how today, with Cintiq and iPads, many people can't even draw a cube?
>>7777208>The Japanese were just better though.No.>The pic you posted looks like shit.No.You might like Japanese art more, but it doesn't make western art shit. The only thing shit here is your subjective opinions being asserted as fact.
>>7777216Then your opinion that there’s any good western art at all is also just subjective opinion being asserted as fact so what’s the problem?
>>7777221Then we might as well follow that train of thought to the end and say all art is shit, because it's all subjective, which is retarded.Being able to look at art you don't particularly like, and still recognising when it's good, is what allows you to make some objective assessments on art - something you seemingly can't do Mr."The Japanese were just better though".I don't like a lot of the Japanese art posted here, such as OP, but I can still recognise why people like it, and why it isn't shit; again, something you seemingly can't do.
>>7773831It's called pen and paper you autist.
>>7777326>Extremely obvious pixels>Dithering>limited colour palette>"THAT'S PEN & PAPER!"Righto.>>7773935Speaking of pen & paper, every kid had those back then, did that mean they'd pick them up and draw and become artists? Just because all phones and computers are capable of having art programs, doesn't mean every person, most people, or even what could be considered a decent fraction of people, will download them and use them.
It feels like I'm hugging the /int/ wall and all it takes is for me to stop winging it half the time. My honest to god biggest issue that I can see for myself is moving objects in 3D space and how they overlap with eachother (and folds but that's just practice). Something along the lines of foreshortening but with multiple objects or simply making several elements behind eachother look like something in actual 3d space.Did anything help you fellas for it to finally click? Or do you see any more issues with my lack of drawing prowess?
>>7776512thats means the hips need to be turned if thats the case
>>7777176>>7776949I did look up for street dance poses as reference, which is why is it looks the way it does (I can no longer find the ref but it was like picrel in style)>>7776969>>7777075I will KILL anyone who calls crab to someone who's trying to help! but thanks I appreciate it!
>>7777120>>7777154thank you anons, I just fell for the loomis trap and ordered figure drawing and creative illustration (for later) and hope to become even more loomispilled.
>>7777195>thank you anons, I just fell for the loomis trap and ordered figure drawing and creative illustration (for later) and hope to become even more loomispilled.did you not read the sticky? there's free ebook versions
>>7777213I'm one of those retards that cannot read on screens otherwise they fall asleep.. also I like me papeh
I just tried drawing from imagination for the first time.
>>7777296pyw
>>7777296MY FUARKING HERO
>>7777303I can't, it's too shit. I didn't think it'd be so shit. There's no difference from my doodles from when I was 10.
It's spooky season, how about some Darkstalkers on your style?
>>7777066b-blog?
sketchy (repost)
>>7775074source?
>>7776196I'm good and I believe this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsy-SeAxNGM
>>7777051>justify your own personal opinionsopinions are like etc etcshould the thread be called semantics?if dispute applies to medium, why not quality?it's up to so much debate the word is meaningless
>>7777229>opinions are like etc etcIf you don't want opinions, don't enter any discussion.>should the thread be called semantics?Sure, if you think the definition of what art is, to be so insignificant that it's nothing more than semantics... again, why are you in this discussion?>if dispute applies to medium, why not quality?Because that's what the fucking paragraph was about, which was being quoted out of context.The dispute the anons are having IS about the quality being a qualifier. what are you even trying to say here?>it's up to so much debate the word is meaninglessThe word is already basically meaningless, and that's what's being argued against.If a fucking dirty bed can be art, or a banana taped to the wall can be art, then the word is indeed meaningless; so should we just accept that?>PicrelI'd prefer who and what is being considered art/artist to be indeterminate, rather than it all being immediately awarded the what should be the lofty titles of such.
>>7777242nevermind, I'm just so depressed I don't care about anything
>>7774013>>7774035>>7777099ENOUGH from the libertarian capeshit!
