Permabeg just isn't fixable, SORRY. It's like, they're able to learn certain technical things, but they can't help but make it ugly, or gross and uncanny.What makes them so delusional? I don't know if it's an ego thing, I've seen it myself so much, they'll even start running patreons and talk themselves up publicly, even though it's obvious that they hit a wall and will never reach, say, pic on the right.I'm scared guys, talk to me.
>>7964084Left is 10 years on Jazza tutorials.Right is 4 years of drawing and studying Japanese artists.
>>7964084Obsessing over permabegness is permabeg behaviour, skilled artists have no need to crab on other people or whine
>>7966088>melowhhis old iconic more desaturated skin with ring highlight style does feel human tho. which is a year ago
>>7964084ngl, right side: would
>>7964084I lik left for having something unique to it and being a human attempt. Right is just a model trace and soulless generic rendering. Its not actually better.
Shit man.
>>7969415>Make sure to grip your pencil the right way, though.And that is?
>>7968752As Fluharty said drawing is seeing.You need to train your observational skills and you level up. You mostly draw like this because even if you can imagine thing or two in your head when it comes down to paper it just vanishes... you try to draw hand but you don't know shape, anatomy of it, perspective anything. Observe and learn that's how people who did art before learned it. How shapes change based on distance, on height relative from you, the form of the object it's colors and shadows... once you build enough in your library and train you will be able to draw.
>>7969431Multiple ways, depending on which feels best: the "painter grip", the tripod grip, the tip heavy overhand grip, etc.https://thevirtualinstructor.com/blog/how-to-hold-a-pencil-for-drawing-grips
>>7968752So relatable
you got sauce anon it get sbetter. I promise that.But it never hurts less.
I RAN OUT OF LEAD AND FORGOT TO ORDER MORE
Haha, poor widdle baby ran out of his leady weady? Digital chads win again! Now excuse me, I've got art to make!>Draws line>Ctrl+Z>Draws line>Ctrl+Z>Draws line>Ctrl+Z>Draws line>Ctrl+Z>Draws line>Ctrl+Z>Draws line>Ctrl+Z>...
>>7966357Back to twitter
>>7966598>I just really like the feel of graphite on paperYeah I'm way more motivated to draw and draw well when it's in a sketchbook. I want to like digital but I just hate it. I don't want to fuck around with files and brushes and layers.
>>7966957>I don't want to fuck around with files and brushes and layersi mean you don't gotta
THAT IS VERY BAD OP>>7966429kys nggr bb
In you opinion, what exactly makes art generally look "professional" or overall very competent at a first impact both technically and stylistically speaking? I'm not adding this for self pity or anything, but I notice that everytime I tell myself "well, maybe I'm not that far behind them actually" comparing my pieces to the ones of social media artists who have been at tit for years, they either quickly just completely mog me in sketching and technique (real time drawpile experiences with mutuals btw) or put out a finished piece I couldn't for the life of me execute as well with my current actual skills.It's also how I can weirdly tell apart intermediate/clearly amateur art from the one of popular advanced or at the very least high /int/ artists, or why AOT looks clearly significantly inferior than something like Akira or Blade Of The Immortal.
>>7970471Holy fuck it's Kris DeltaruneDeltarune in two days holy fuck
Dumb question desu.
DUDE you like... ever draw when you were on drugs?
>>7949230Acid unironically improved my understanding a lottttt. I don't use it anymore though since the last time I used it I felt like I almost went schizo
"Not all drugs are good......some of them are GREAT!"Bill Hicks
>>7942733Shadman mets Otomo
I was on LSD when I made this
>>7970364Why shadman?Oh dear
how do you draw as good as animators?
>>7934047Where can I find more of these
>>7934047this is true but the idea of drawing what amounts to the keys of an imagined sequence is not that much of a special animation secret, it's what you learn with gesture drawingeven someone who has not studied animation will know you can't copy a photo 1:1 and you have to push the pose, and imagine the gesture behind itgranted, capeshit artists keep getting work when they don't understand any of this and their drawings look blatantly traced and lifeless so maybe it's more advanced than I think
>>7970423>capeshit artists keep getting work when they don't understand any of this and their drawings look blatantly traced and lifeless so maybe it's more advanced than I thinkmainly because artist in the west are actually liked and treated with some form of respect compared to the east. The east, especially in jap land and chink land, artist are treated like fucking shit.
>>7970423>>7970527Is it really this bad? I don't read capeshit but I imagined their modern artists have caught up with the times?
>>7932225by using blender to animate in 3D or rigged 2D characters.it's pretty darn hard to make hand-drawn 2D look fluid without having sketchy, schizo linework that shifts slightly each frame. anti-realists will call that "sovl" though
>Decide to finally try to get better at drawing men after exclusively drawing females>Try using nude photos from male reference threads>Have a throbbing erection the whole time while drawingFuck this board, you guys turned me gay
>>7969319another niggerfaggot with no argument
>>7969334the argument is that it's scientifically proven that bigots tend to have low IQ and/or low education.studies say this. sry buddy.
>>7969419I’m a bigot with a university degree and a 130 IQ
>>7968868That's weird, anon. You're weird.
>>7968985I like trans girls with cocks shrivled up in their loose sagging skin and the foreskin is an important component as i feel it makes them less man-like while also being exotic like that *girl* ammy rouse fuck why did i get an errection writting this>>7969162ignorant take, take the nga to a paris fashion runway
>flip someone ELSE'S drawing>it looks worsewhat is this dark magic
>>7970863If you don't flip it then the problem doesn't exist
>flip my drawing>it actually looks better
This isn't a crab thread, nor do I want it to me "woe is me, I'm permabeg tier" type thread. I'm more or less just curious on what you actual artists who browse /ic/ consider your bad pics that make you go, "Damn, I can totally do this and this and this better. What the fuck was I thinking?..."Pic rel is some Animal Crossing fanart I did half a decade ago. Thinking about redrawing it. Posing looks a bit too stiff for my liking.
>try to draw a chick flick comic that appeals to women>mostly male characters doing things that should appeal to women>bunch of MMA fighters punching eachother and wanting to be the strongest>some came from rough backgrounds and are ex convicts, with flashbacks about their time in prison>the main characters have like 2-3 girlfriends and fwbs each whom they pick up and carry like war prizes>one of the characters befriends a stray cat, showing his sweet soft side, which women apparently like>men bullying eachother and then weightlifting in the gym with tears streaming down their faces, talking about how they can get stronger and better>male characters balance becoming strong enough to beat up other men without scaring the women away and showing they still have a soft side>drawings of men in locker rooms with water running down their muscular, scarred bodies as they think about the girl that got away who they would've given up their harems for>500 subscribers on patreon>only one is a woman and she is trans
>>7970404nta Aren't you kinda saying absolutely nothing at all? She handed tou an explanation of how women function, and you're trying to poke holes in it that aren't even going through.It reads like you've got demntia dude
>>7955585>tfw you accidentally make Baki
>>7956458so, women want a realistic, down to earth show, that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots?
>>7955671I don't know how to appeal to anyone but myself but destitute waif meets vampire bossprince is my comfort zone
>>7955585who ever told you this, you've been fucking lied to.
Holy shit, this guy can't fucking draw. I knew he was a meme on here, but I'd never actually watched a video of his. The fact that he had the nerve to get Brandon Hackerson up onto his channel and then show him his 6th-grade sketchbook tier art makes me feel sick to my stomach with 2nd-hand embarrassment.
>>7969962I agree. The best advice to people choosing to pursue something so risky is to be pragmatic. Set a timeline and goal, if you don't reach it in that timeline, then pivot to something easier to attain and that's more stable so you can set yourself up to enjoy it later in life if you truly enjoy it. Life requires compromises sometimes. Comes down to what you value and care about in the long term. Just that I think most people take time for granted.
>>7969959I'm not reading this shit, jazza
>still no work.hehe, every time.
>STILL no FUCKIN' work posted. lmao even>>7952959T R V T H N V K E RVTHNVKE
>>7969590mirin saved for inspo very nice workheavypaint?
ITT: Post your work and your socials
>>7967961it's time to make friends, anon
>>7969976What's the best way to make artist friends online?
>>7970094Nta but I usually send DM to an artist of same genre if I like their stuff and want to say hi. Usually it's just common courtesy for few replies but sometimes it evolves to more frequent messaging and friendship/collague
https://x.com/akts625https://www.pixiv.net/users/12788029I draw tomboys
https://x.com/cintes98will post more animations soon hopefully
Why You Should Copy Anime:https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpgNaoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw**Strive for quantity AND quality.**Anime Studying:>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7970015like once maybemy reason for focusing so hard on heads is because being able to draw a good head (and nothing else) is better if i want to show other people imo
>>7970024>I'm too afraid to draw anything but floating animu headsYou need to get out of your comfort zone, get used to making mistakes and start drawing what nobody likes to draw which are the hands and feet.
>>7970011The orientation of your construction does not match the reference.
Is studying/copying frames from anime fighters (a la Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Melty Blood, Under Night) a worthwhile use of my time if I've never done figure drawing in basically any capacity before?like pic rel
Currently doing the hyped hide course, starting with the head one. Not gonna lie, I think it was a mistake. It is a bunch of boring repetitive sloppy skull drawing... It's getting harder to get knowledge from it, though I will still grind it to the end.Once he begins teaching actual anime heads, maybe things will improve. Since the lessons on realism aren't good, I'll have to use other materials later to really learn how to properly draw a human head skull and such.The guy vibe is very "see, it's easy!" while he makes arbritrary decisions that actual begginers would get lost.
Why don't more people here talk about streaming as a way to monetize your art?Every time I pull up the Art category on twitch I see some random unknown with at least 300 viewers. I know multiple examples of people who basically make enough income to stream fulltime with an average of 400 viewers per stream, so, we're not talking extreme or unreasonable numbers here. Granted it depends on how many of those viewers you can convert into subscribers, but it is doable.There are lots of ways you could monetize the stream besides just hoping that people convert into subscribers and/or youtube viewers. Live lessons, live redlines of viewers' work on stream, etc. It seems like a better business model than just spamming comms into the void so I'm surprised more people don't try it.
>>7970185The people that even have time to watch streams are mainly underage shitters/pre=teens. That's demographic don't give a fuck about art, let alone can watch something like that because it's "too boring".
>>7970523Sinix's streams in the coof years were really fucking good, but yeah, the only reason people had time to tune in and draw along was that they were locked up in their homes.
>>7970446I am the world’s #1 AI hater. I just also people think that people should be realistic about it. Things like process videos and live audience interaction are obviously more valuable now. If artists are still making money off comms then that’s wonderful of course.
>>7970526covid was both the peak and death of twitch. It's when all normies were exposed to twitch and corporations wanted to get in on the money. Now whatever tf twitch is these days is some bastardization of what it was. Basically just primetime tv lite with how overproduced all of it is and all the random celeb collabs
>>7970569Honestly I kinda want the world to have another lockdown. A ton of cool shit got published on the internet between 2020 and 2022. Now a lot of the youtube channels from that era are abandoned and slowly rotting
is there anywhere accessible where art schools historically archive rejected applications & portfolios? I'm writing something based on art school rejects (not just hitler) and where they ended up. looking specifically for ones who did nothing else productive with their life after the initial disappointment or applied multiple times just to be rejected again and never succeed, so basically permabegs before permabegs were a thing
