I was planning on making Ginger getting blown by wind but I also gave out the file for anyone to animate this thread took inspo from the animation general. (Fuck Qwel)https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Anwv47lnRAHd_IBde9R2fS8nzNdEGZiY/view?usp=sharing
Animation general is already slow enough as it is, there's no need to split the threads.Anyone who has questions about animation should post there >>7989810
having fun?
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>>8022344>>>/lsg/
>>8022345too many shitposters in there
>>8022345>/lsg/Should be changed to e-celeb vendetta faggotry general.
1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)Previous thread: >>7958278
>>8021552How many OCs is actually an "adequate" minimum to be "good"?
>>8021681>How much is good?Nothing really. It is just funny that the Marchelle and Gry creator limits himself to just 11 OCs when I know fuckers that draw much more. I don’t like stories where you are with the same characters over and over.
>>8021687More is not always better.
>>8006752I had a powercut when I started drawing so lost my original drawing - but I think this came out better anyway
>>8022184Thank you a lot, man, I think it’s beautiful, I really appreciate it!I don’t remember if you showed your OCs, but I’d be glad to redraw one of yours!
It's been forever since we've had one of these!Theme: Heat, SummerRules:>Claim a tile next to an existing tile>Draw the tile and post it >Make sure your tile aligns with the adjacent tiles>Tile dimension: 200x200 pixels>No AI Starting on tiles F1 and A8.Build on what others drew, be creative and have fun!
>>8020311Save F3 for me
>>8021217F3 rubberduck version
>>8021353I'm doing F4
>>8021353>>8021919Human reproduction sure is fascinating!
>>8020980
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>>8022783you fucked up the bait, that's a "circle of", meaning some literallywho painted it
I did the same bait with one of his water colors, once. But i would say the same now, edges no good, looks amateurish.
>open youtube>everyone and their dog suddenly shilling some paper I never heard ofI'm so tired of this shit
>>8023081what?
>>8023111I am bereaved of joy by the sight of hucksters and peddlers playing at artists on youtube
I can't do it. Every pose I draw looks nothing like the reference. I always change the angle or something else about it without realizing it until after. Is this supposed to be an impossible pose or what. How do you get better at following your refs?
>>8021570Try different approaches? I will go only by the picture you provided, but you should try some basic construction first. Maybe a few cubes and gesture lines that easier to redo.
>>8021570move your eyes back and forth from one image to the other, focus on small stuff, see the arm that's holding the sword, look back and forth, correct the size by drawing on top of it, like adding layers, until it looks right on comparison, it doesn't matter if it's messyand i don't know why you're using those thin clean lines but i feel they're keeping you from making fixes, it's a sketch, it can be messy, it should be messy
>>8021971also measure your proportions,check the negative space too
>>8021570Just imagine vertical and horizontal plumb lines. Use construction and rough out the figure first. That's all there is to it.
>>8022015>"git gud scrub"
Why are people here insistent on that the porn they jerk off to constitute good art in any way, shape or form?Yes I also jerk off to weird shit but at least I'm high IQ enough to realize that it IS weird shit. That is in poor taste and of little artistic value. And that if I'm to take art seriously I should excise sexual desire out of my work.Pic related. /ic/ in a nutshell.
>>8019763Patriot
>>8018268>Actually goes out into the world to show his art>Actually draws>Doesn't give a shit about how weird his tastes areI don't know, OP, sounds like he's got stuff figured out a lot better than most of us here.
>usyou don't draw
is that a milk filled condom in that bowl
>>8020846Why I bet he's working as art director for some major studio rn
Where did the gothic stylistic choice of giving characters thin bodies and large undilated eyes come from?
>call it gothic>look inside>it's just a standard cartoonand to answer the question one guy did it and everybody just copied.
>>8021566>Edward GoreyHe's an important link that keeps getting forgotten. Burton's scratchy ink lines are clearly a stylistic element lifted from Gorey's work.
I wonder what Tim Burton would think of Invader Zim
>>8021959I’d be kinda shocked if he hadn’t commented on it somewhere already
>>8021959>>8022022He only likes really old shit.
A serious thread for once. No 3D stuff for this, and let's keep AI discussion to a minimum.How is the job situation for art in general? I'm from the tech world, so the art industry is unexplored territory. What do you anons (/pros/) work for/apply for? I imagine it is mostly digital and not much for traditional. Do you work on illustration covers? Game art? Concept art? What is the environment for professionals at the moment? Do you have a steady art job in a company, or do you have to fish projects?Also, I am curious about working from home and if finding jobs from second/third worlds is easier/better or harder/worse than first world.
>>8021956>lackadaisy still costs 200k per episode, indie animation is DOA.You say that as if it were a massive failure. An episode of Mission Hill cost over a million each, and we're not even accounting for inflation.So I don't know much about Lackadaisy's accomplishments or failures, but its budgeting doesn't appear to be one of the failures -- unless the animation is absolute shit? I haven't watched it.
>>8021965> unless the animation is absolute shitit's great, but obviously if you are relying on mostly crowdfunding and audiences largely demand expressive high-quality animation then only a few series will get enough patreon bucks to go into production. As an animator it's not a stable market to rely on and pitching a show and getting popular enough to make it is like winning the lottery (even more so than say pitching to Cartoon Network in the 90s).It's just not a very realistic production pipeline which is why lottery winners like Hazbin keep on clamoring Amazon and other big producers to give them money which effectively makes them no longer indie. Glitch studios exists and is a sort of new and novel mid-level producer that is trying to cut deals with larger studios while also relying on youtube revenue and crowdfunding, they are probably the closest thing to a silver lining that exists atm. Currently none of their 2d offerings have gone past a pilot episode so it'll be interesting to see if this becomes more viable or just sinks.I just think you have to be very very stupid to consider the above an alternative to the normal Hollywood/Toronto/whatever production pipeline. It's at the most a novel addition not an alternative to replace it.
>>8021969>if you are relying on mostly crowdfunding and audiences largely demand expressive high-quality animation then only a few series will get enough patreon bucks to go into production.>audiences largely demand expressive high-quality animationI think that's the mistake. You can be quite smart and cheap with the animation, and audiences will accept it. Remember the poor reception story-time animators got yonks ago? People considered them power-point slides with mouthflaps, and yet they still garnered audiences. People with good visual sense should be able to make animations that are far more limited and quick to produce, that will still appeal to the general audiences -- if they're successful, then they can reinvest that into their animations and be more ambitious.All this said, making an animation studio that can produce episodes for as cheap as $200,000 each, and pitching that studio to hollywood producers would be the way to go if you're desperate to do fully animated shows. If Lackadaisy's pilot was successful with audiences, given how small that budget was, it should (key word) be a shoe-in for producers to pick up. Though producers are more known for being idiots with bad taste, so nothing is guaranteed, but to me, it seems like the pilot is successful at exactly what it was trying to do.Actually, reading up on what happened with the pilot, they used it to go back to kickstarter and asked for a million to make more episodes, and ended up with two million, so given how well they've budgeted their show and how the pilot amped people up to donate, I think they succeeded on your terms as well, yeah?Granted, working and gathering funds in this manner depends more on luck than the other methods, in my opinion. At the very least, it requires having a well known and beloved property to start off with, like Lackadaisy is.
>>8021992i honestyl cant tell if an ai wrote this.
>>8021994>honestylI'm assuming you don't read often enough to be able to tell.
Why do conservatives like kitsch styles of painting?
>>8021725It's definitely in there, but I think the difference between someone like Kinkade and the Romantics is simply that Kinkade doesn't 'get it'. He's going after the same kind of awe and grandeur, but has no idea where to aim it. And so it feels like out of place worship of extremely pedestrian subjects. Big beautiful mountains are tucked away in the corner as background decoration, focus is on the perfect manicured lawn and theme park vacation cabin with indeterminate varieties of cartoonish trees sprinkled around it.
>>8016075>Basically the aesthetic equivalent "brown hands typed this post"this website is the only place online which gives me a laugh
>>8017262>*tiny, barely noticable, abstracted figure*>IS THAT A LOLI!?!?!? IM. GONNA. COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>>8021872>*tiny-UOOOOOOHHHHHHH ToT
>>8021539To be honest it's a terribly pointless term to describe something as superficial and lacking depth, you can ascribe it to anything if you really want to. It's main purpose, in the way it's used by the modern art establishment anyway, is to denigrate figurative skill-based art and elevate so called "avant-garde" art, e.g. banana on wall and signed urinal.
Can someone explain what this means? Which artwork is better?
>>8018465/thread
>>8018422While good design is subjective, left has proper understanding of depth while right doesn't.
>>8018458>for the sake of getting a good grademore like for the sake of getting a passing gradeif only good grades were on the minds of students, randos on twitters and hobbyists would get btfo constantly, because you wont get a good grade for something ok
Left is cuteRight is uglyNow seethe and cope, polack tourist logging out
>>8018422Holy shit does this guys art suck.
I just cannot use a drawing tablet. I just can't draw a line—not even a simple line—without having to repeat it about 15 fucking times and is always wrong and no it's not the fucking pen pressure. It's discouraging to end up like this whenever I try to use the tablet. Did I just waste 100 bucks in a Wacom I can't even use?.
>>8021480i have had the exact same experience as you and it put me off of digital for years. when you draw on paper with a pencil, there are two things that are different than when you draw digitally. 1) there is a sensory difference. the texture of the paper under the pencil acts almost like training wheels when compared to drawing on the smooth surface of a tablet. 2) digital lines can be far more precise compared to the bluntness of a traditional medium. for example, it's similar to drawing with a pencil vs drawing with a really thin micron. digital gives you a significantly smaller margin for error in the same way3 things you can do is 1)tape a piece of coarse printer paper over your tablet, it will simulate drawing on paper. 2) get textured pen nibs, it will also help further simulate drawing on paper 3) format your drawing space on your monitor to be a smaller portion of the monitor, it will help with feeling out of sync with your tableti hope that helps and if you have any questions i am happy to try to help
dont grind your pen on a rough surface what the fuck this shit wears away fast enough already
>>8021608It just takes practice, it’ll get much easier the more you do it I promise, to the point that it’s basically as easy as paper
>>8021480I know how you feel the disconnect from not being able to see what my hand is doing is rough but it gets easier with time just have to keep grinding
>>8021608>a small size one, my budget couldnt afford something biggerSo it is fucked. I had for years and never got used to it. Because it is too small of a surface vs the monitor, it is just uncomfortable to make any lines with it. Aim to save money and acquire a bigger one. I went from small to medium, and suddenly digital went from hell to actually fun.Some people are so good with precision that they can handle a small one, but I would say most of us need a bigger one to properly draw.
Did you do Naoki Saito's 3-month method? Who did you try to emulate? Any success?
>>8010416>Yes>Naoki Saito>None
>>8010500ight, i am gonna do this.
>>8010416>Did you do Naoki Saito's 3-month method?Nearing the end of the 3 month mark but I did take a break for about 2 weeks and still have a few issues I need to work on (head/body proportions, feet, etc.) so I'm going to extend it for a little while longer>Who did you try to emulate?Nagi Ichi (yaoi doujin artist)>Any success?I've now had 2 people say my art reminds them of him so I think it's working >>8018392
>>8019796ah gotcha, thanks man
>>8020688>at least a vague understanding of how anyone draws anythingalong with drawing along with hide channel, just do at least one full accuracy copy with color, you can take normal anime (not illustrations) for this and try to get it as close as possible. doesn't matter if it takes 30-40 hours over some days, doesn't matter how many times you need to overlay to check your stuff and erase/redraw.you don't need to "understand" for this, just experience the information overload to shock your cognitive resolution into being higher. after that you'll basically never be the same, most people here don't ever do this and cope with doing less accurate copies all the time so their resolution stays handicapped.
You ever see an artist who's less skilled than you make art that's more ambitious than yours and realize you're a wimpy faggot who's too self conscious to get out of his comfort zone? Cus I've been experiencing that lately
>>8020559Stop comparing >>8021216Soul
>>8020559Use these experiences to inspire you to be more ambitious.Reach for the stars, and face-plant into the moon, and all that.
>>8020559I used to draw more ambitious and fun things, but that was back before life broke me down. Now I'm over the hill and life is bleak so I can't draw anything fun anymore despite having the technical skill.
>>8020559Yes, daily, and I don't know how to exit the loop.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3tfCuOzgeGw
Give me a character to draw suggestive stuff, i'm boredIt can be any character
>>8016496Callie from Swat kats.
>>8016496This aint gonna fix that art block my dude.
>>8016496draw selene delgado shitting in the toilet
>>8016496here''s a challenge
>>8016496[spoiler]Twilight Sparkle[/spoiler]
