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how does one paint digitally? i use csp and i cant figure it out - i do sketch then color then shade and change all the lines to like a red/brown yet it mixing it all looks so muddy i want to paint like something this art by @NineV_ on twit and etc but im not sure how and i cant find any tutorials
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>>5396249
I love this "paint but looks unfinished on purpose" style but I can never figure out how to achieve it
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>>5396523
>sketch
>after that it's just detailing
>easy
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>>5397098
yeah same like i think i over paint
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>>5396249
1. make roughly visible sketch
2. clean up lines
3. pick flat colour for what you draw
4. fill inside or even paint over lines
5.pick 2nd flat color to define shapes
6. use soft brush to blend and smooth out the edges
7. cover yourself in oil

voila
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>looks so muddy
What's your canvas size? Go for like 3000 x 2000 pixels

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what is this? why does everyone keep posting it
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truth
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What a shitty meme, thats not god, or truth or anything the sort.
Youre all a bunch of empty vessels repeating memes as echo in a barren cave.
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>>5397271
A soul is a thought. To think the thought it is to have the soul of it.
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the seed of infinite moreness
a growing universe and soul in a thought
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>>5396836
"femboy core" for degenerate porn obsessed losers

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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making and Manga-style illustration.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.

Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).

Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>5339992


Some resources:

/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series >>>/ic/asg


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>>5396951
I would suggest avoid copying Togashi. Basically the way it works is, in Japan he’s an expert and we’re beginners. He’s allowed to break the rules because he’s already got a fanbase. When you’re an amateur you should try to stick to the standard rules as much as possible.

I thought of the same things when I read his email, but I understand where it’s coming from and why he was so strict on keeping it smooth and easy to read. Part of it is a status thing, where, as a rookie your work essentially has zero merit until it’s been validated by the public, but also, BECAUSE you have to draw in that audience first. People who are already invested will put up with a lot cause they wanna follow the story, but when there’s no investment, there’s no way you’ll get them to chug through.

> 「文字多すぎる・コマが多すぎる・絵の情報量が多すぎる」は新人の漫画が読んでもらえない最大の原因です。1フキダシの中に8文字×3行以内を守り、その24文字フキダシを絶対に連続させない。7コマあるページは作っても良いが、その度に読者が減ると考えておく。「キャラ・背景・吹き出し」が全部入っていているページを連続させない&小さいコマにその3要素を入れない。これは最低限守りましょう。

General idea is, “you can break these rules if you like, but expect the number of readers to decrease each time you do,” is how he put it.
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>>5396966
>>5396971
Yeah I know, just feels funny to hear this and then look at this kind of page.
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>>5387339
Man I can't stand this guys faces. Way too much verticality in the eyes and the nose looks odd.
>>5388910
>>5389073
>>5387944
I fuck with you dawg this is cool as shit. I admire your confidence to pursue this even as a beginner. I'll be keeping up with this.
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>>5396729
>silent manga channel
The community one, right?
>and this other one that’s also in Japanese
Can you post a link to it anyway, please?
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Out of curiosity, what kind of paper is used to print Japanese manga? I want to self publish my doujin and capture those aesthetics.

Im tired of waiting. Self promote your blogspot here anons
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>>5386941
>slush.planet
Sexy Deku is sexy
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>>5396799
Are you telling me Instagram serves any purpose other than mindless liking stuff?
I have one, same ID, but I don't upload to it anymore cause too lazy.
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@explosive_art
TwinTailsCruise https://www.pixiv.net/users/4967174
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tried to draw gore for the first time
https://twitter.com/5enketsu/status/1370324981901529095/photo/1
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https://twitter.com/volaraes

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Too much competition, the AI can already replicate beg tier stuff, you need YEARS to barely understand fundamentals.
You need a LOT of years to develop an unique style.
People with decades of experience are barely able to make money with their art.
There's literally no point in art anymore. That's it.
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>>5394656
its the desperation because they dont know what else to do and are afraid to admit that art isnt really their thing anyway.
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>>5396091
this is the fucking "secret", its all about FOCUSED practice but ppl only want a magical pill that will turn them into art gods without any effort so the most obvious and truthful advice will always get ignored
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>>5391520
AI is better at video games than me. I don't even know why I bother
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>>5391520
>There's literally no point in art anymore.
The point of art is to express yourself like you want, even if the result is not satisfactory. Critical thinking has diminished considerably over the years and look what has brought us. Because there's machines that can do it doesn't mean you have to abandon your creativity, it's part of your humanity.
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>>5395019
Drawing in your teens is the prerequisite (unless you are very talented). That doesn't mean if you fulfil that prerequesite you are gonna make it, it's just the entry point.

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Heya, does anyone know if there are any books or courses on mecha design?
Art by Ryan Barry
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Darren quach, heavypoly

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Previous thread >>5347834

>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/#/
https://sketchfab.com/calacademy

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>>5396050
what?
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>>5396297
hello BICH
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>>5395469
This looks awesome. Love the colors
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>>5390981
Dunno if you're still here but:
I'd have some goals in mind for your style - do you have artists or examples of what you like in mind? It'd be good to dissect them to find out which parts in particular you like and then try to incorporate them because there are a looot of different toony styles with different levels of complexity. They tend to use simplified, readable, and / or flowing shapes though. Without changing your current style, you could improve your drawings by inking the lines - it'll make them smoother and allow for a greater range of tones; you could use highlights by greying in your characters. A little cell shading might also go a long way in terms of adding depth. Distant objects appear less saturated, less detailed, and lighter. There's a lot to improve but I think your drawing is charming and I especially like how you arranged the bottom of the page

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I'm unironically too stupid to comprehend Proko's method for drawing simplified pelvis from any angle. How important to know this for drawing a figure from imagination?
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>>5393850
I just imagine the crotch/vagina and construct from there. It's easier for me to go for something visible and easily feelable than bones deeper in the body.
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>>5393850
His simplified pelvis is overly complex compared to other types but don’t fuck with anatomy until you understand perspective and gestures
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>>5393850
The problem with teachers like Proko is that they teach techniques and methods they don't have any first hand experience with using in their own work, and as such have a very superficial, second-hand interpretation of it at best. Proko is like one of those self-help authors that collect a potpourri of ideas from other sources and repackages it as his own stuff.
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>>5393850
what the hell am I even looking at? I can't even comprehend what this shape is, is ita toilet?
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>>5394066
>Isometric perspective
Why would you ever work in isometric for anything that isn't graphic design or game related

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everytime i see art better than mine it makes me want to kill myself and give up. wat do?
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>>5396478
I'm in the green zone right now and it sucks. I find the cycle takes about two weeks between the peaks and troughs.
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Turn those negative feeling's into something positive, get inspired by other people's work or get motived into getting better. Art is not a competition my man
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you need to let other art inspire you, to push you to surpass them one day. you need friendly rivalry. i cant imagine being a pathetic, jealous dog
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>>5396194
Understand that some of those artists probably feel the same way about their art and other artists, and accept that this is will always be a thing.
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>>5396624
>3d is just as annoying to learn for me which is why I gave up for now because I cant deal with 2 cruel hobbies at once
Weird, I found 3D to be a walk in the park in comparison. I focused on it for a couple of months and had easy shit after easy shit with great results. I kinda lost interest because I had no big project I really wanted 3D for but if I ever need it I'd gladly work at it again.
On the other hand with 2D art I have pain after pain with a cool experience every now and then.

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eyes
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Be careful to observe and understand the shape of an eye and dont fall into the trap of just drawing symbols that resemble eyes. This can apply to any observable object.
Thats my tip for the day
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I like :D

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How much time a day should I send practicing drawings or how many pages should I do in a day for practice

Currently I'm at at least 2 pages a day and sometimes 4 a day
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>>5394858
Keep doing that for 15 years.
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>>5394858
If you have to ask this your probably arent gonna make it.

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This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.

>What should I buy?
State your:
>Budget
>Location
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
>Size (in inches)
>Other information
>Previous equipment

If you have any additional questions, ask them.

>Recommended tablets:


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>>5396584
Get M dude.
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>>5395649
Yeah it works fine. On the odd occasion I lose pen pressure after unplug and replugging the device I just run a .bat file to restart the drivers. This isn't a problem exclusive to intuos 3s though.
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>>5396682
That's great, I'm thinking of buying a brand new model on ebay instead of risking a used one that's in already beat up condition, they aren't that far out in price compared to current models that I assume are worse in quality, but I wanted to make sure if they work well with today's software first. Would you happen to know if Intous4 is an improvement over 3? I remember looking at some posts here in the past that claimed Intous4 was part of the age of good long lasting Wacom products, but again I have no idea if that really turned out to be true.
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>>5396744
Intuos 4s are when they started making softer pen nibs and courser surfaces. I believe that is also when Wacom switched over to Chinese manufacturing. Other than that I can't speak on the drawing experience between the two. I feel like intuos 3 gives me everything I need, aside from maybe better tilt support if you care about it.

A brand new intuos 3 is worthwhile imo because the sheets do not wear down in normal use (unless you normally press down very hard) and the nibs last many years. Mine is only about to be changed after 15 years. As for my sheets, I only have one scratch from a sharp object (not the nibs), and some unknown splotches from some sort of acid. I don't remember making them so it might've happened when I lent mine out.
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Tried tablet for the first time and it came out fairly shit. Is it a practice thing or should I stick to pen and paper?

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where in the fuck do you guys get reference images
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>>5394933
>He doesn't use references to broaden his visual library and enhance the quality of his drawings with minimum effort
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>>5394825
Find addons for your browser for two things:

>Open a picture origin in new tab
You need to be able to, with one hotkey, open a picture you're hovering over into a new tab, and have that opened picture be the original biggest size possible.

>Download all tabbed images
With one selection/hotkey, you should be able to download all tabbed images, and automagically close all tabs that have been downloaded.

With these two tools, addons, whatever, you will be able to browse trough twitter, pinterest, google, whatever, and just collect a bunch of pictures, that you can easily download later with minimal button presses and wasted time.
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BY GOING OUTSIDE AND OPENING YOUR FUCKING EYES YOU STUPID FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>5394916
if you have you've heard it from a retard.
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>>5396542
ive tried telling these coombrain weebs to go outside before, often when they ask where to find inspiration or where to get comissions or meet other artists but do they listen??
..helll naw

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Any good books or video lessons on drawing animals? I'm new here and im mainly looking to learn how to draw all kinds of animals and some little perspective aswell. Help a nigga out.

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Trying to try out everything to see what works best. Also, i zoom very deeply on my 13 inch tablet when drawing, is that normal?
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>>5397199
what size brush do you use for drafting usually? everyone I've seen seems to use thick ones
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>>5397199
Tried zooming out and focusing purely on forms. Also used a size 10 brush
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>>5397258
can i have that asian brush?
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>>5397283
「乱れペン」 midare pen. Type in Japanese and you'll find it. I'm trying it out cause the mangaka for tsugumomo uses it
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>>5397289
thansk mate
avoid zooming all time, at least when sketching




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