envy fuels me.
>>7989068Just hit 700 on Twitter, pretty happy.
>>8003481How have you not been flagged as a bot? I thought you have to wait a few weeks to post on a new account
>>8004062>How have you not been flagged as a bot? I thought you have to wait a few weeks to post on a new accountI dunno, but I suspected new accounts are limited in exposure or smth. Then again, even if they weren't, starting from zero still isn't easy.
On the topic of twitter accounts, how do you avoid the age verification bullshit (with a new account)?I've made a couple of throwaways over the years and somehow a couple of them have been limited.
>>8004130Huh, that never came up for me and I have three accounts
If they can improve despite everything that happened, so can you
>>7999259lol
>>7999259A tragic anal beads accident
only improved rendering but otherwise no structural improvement nor evidence of anatomy understanding
>>7999093Disingenuous, as he was already skilled, but stuck with bad appeal
Does anyone have any insight into the training/circumstances that gave rise to technical demons like Murata, Obata, Miura, and Shinichi Sakamoto?
>>7998303It's rendered construction.
>>7998309>Miura>fundamentalsdoesn't look like it from his often weird human body proportions (monsters get a pass since there is no particular standard of reference). he really is masterful in a weird way
>>8003302Miura at age 10
>>8003717the story was started age 10 but spanned 40 volumes. can't find full scans of it online, but this timeline shows the evolution of miura's technique more accuratelyhttps://www.skullknight.net/miura/
>>8004073Yeah, he definitely improved. But my point is that these guys were always exceptional with regards to spatial intelligence or whatever. Like when you look at their old stuff the only difference is line quality, consistency, and style.
What's your favourite drawing you've made? Not the most competent, not what got the most likes, just the one that speaks most to you personally.
>>8003586Incredibly hot zombie. Way beyond my abilities.
maybe a small old full-body painting of my favorite couple quietly hugging in a corner of one of my old massively crowded art-heavy canvases. it has the aesthetic and costume design of old school gritty desert punk futuristic manga illustrations.sorry, i’d rather not post it, though.
>>8003586None, they're all dogshit.That OP pic really speaks to me though
>>8003593>>8003668why not share it?
old >>7976862
>>8004223No wonder boomer assholes love this thing
>>8004072Neat, I was reading through the article, it's very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I wasn't trying to be le rude with the bristly thing still getting used to it but I think maybe synthetics are better for me but I do like how they forced more mindful painting decisions
>>8004483stop acting like a nigger
Im an intermediate that has almost solely drawn with graphite pencils, but I often see "pros" on YT use ink pens, special pens, or high-contrast black pencils like the mars black. The grass then always looks "greener on the other side" so to speak when looking at their sketches. So do you prefer to draw with graphite pencils, charcoal, ink pens, or lumograph mars black? And why?(Putting the latter in its own category as its somewhat different than regular charcoal )
When I'm sketching in trad I use 2B pencils the most but when I want to do something in ink I'll do the sketch in colored pencil (usually non-photo blue) and then use fineliners and brush pens for the final lines. I prefer the look of black ink but pencil is much more forgiving, both because I can erase it and because it's easier to build up values gradually
>>8003944actual artists just use a random 2H or 2B pencil. they dont have special pencils unless they are maybe a comic artist and using non-photo blue before inking, but even thats just a random non-photo blue from staples.
>>8003944I actually hate the mars black. It's like shitty charcoal. Charcoal is king if you want black but I still prefer a pencil. I used to go with soft artist pencils but lately I just use the 2B school Staedtlers, they're good quality and dirt cheap
>>8004018So you prefer to draw with charcoal pencils then that aren't a mix of graphite and charcoal like lumograph mars, or do you draw with charcoal sticks or whatever? You said you prefer the pencil format, what brand do you use then?
>>8003944I buy a pack of these once per year.Oval carpenter pencils. HB
Is there an equivalent of an intense art fundamentals course or book, but for creativity?I feel hollow inside and like I lack a soul
>>8004005Nah, just get started and don't worry about it, you'll eventually get there. If you have good friends it will motivate your growth as well.
>>7997973MOREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE MOREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>8003952We've got everyone from people who just draw OwO Kawaii shit, to guro enthusiasts, to people doing academic studies, and that guy who draws himself fucking his step mom. I have a hard time believing you couldn't find someone like minded here
>>8004005Scrubs are only annoying when they want a 100% clear answer to every problem without working on it themselves. A good mentor can maybe get you an answer that's 80% understandable and actionable, but the learning always happens between you and the page
>>8004005Your primary problem is your tendency to make excuses for everything.
Art envy for better artists is actually good if it pushes you to work hard on your own stuff for it (assuming you aren't a nodraw)
>>8002615Talking to a lot of artists. Many of them don't have the fortitude to actually let someone better than them inspire them to greatness. They get blackpilled. They also have this weird obsession with wanting to demoralize people worse than them. Lol.
>>8002615No shit, but you see what real competition that exists outside of the cultural march towards wagiedom does to the brain of your standard issue normalfag.
>>8004080>standard issue normalfagAre you telling me there are speacialty normalfags?
>>8004098Yes, driven normies like Proko can figure it out but they're usually boring as fuck
>>8002615no it isn't, even if it pushes you to draw harder, because artists already draw until exhaustion. (not physical exhaustion, punishment exhaustion.)
>start drawing a lot>since I was beg, I traced some images>post said images>get clowned on and they even find the traced originals>get kicked from the group>haven't drawn anything since that incident over 3 years agoI am unable to accept criticism at all. I hate when people clown on me for things I genuinely like. It kills my drive completely and I just doing it. Same thing happened with piano, someone clowned on me for playing touhou songs, so I stopped playing them completely.
>>8000152I will never understand people who attack /begs/ for tracing, like what are you getting out of it? Its like kicking a kid off his bike. OP start drawing again today, they wanted you to quit. If you start drawing, they lose.
>>8000152bro was posting on artist discord... i would not post there a single thing. Here you get shitted on but at least people don't act like complete animals. IC is better then 99% of discord groups.
What did you expect to happen when you posted traced stuff as your own?
>>8000152>get clowned on and they even find the traced originalsAre you that one anon who drew some anime girls and you ref'd that anime girl with a maid skirt really short and a MP5?
>>8000152>I am unable to accept criticism at all.You need to either fix that or find something else to do, because as an artist you get nothing but constant criticism.
How is it different from pornography?
>>8003205>"The definition of this is X">"But what if Y happens? Does that still count?">"NO U DISINGENUOUS FAGGOT, MY DEFINITION IS PERFECT"You're such a raging dumbass. If such a simple question can totally ruin your definition, it's not a good definition. The thing that really blows my mind is that you're acknowledging that the porn on the wall is still porn, and therefore blows your definition apart, but rather than admit that, you're just crying-babying about someone bringing up an 'edgecase',You're such an anti-intellectual.
>>8003848yeah, if you put an image intended for masturbation on the wall, it's still an image intended for masturbation. regardless of if the location allows for masturbation.i've yet to meet an artist who doesn't know the actual audience their aiming for when they approach nudity in their art. whether it a guy drawing the typical anime pinup girl for patreon or some girl who thinks preformance art means queefing eggs onto a canvas, they have a pretty clear idea of whether they're aiming for the gooner audience or not when they approach their art.
>>8003129>nudity, especially male nudity, was not taboo in certain circumstances such as in art or athletic training.That's still the case in most first world countries. Maturity o algo.
Porn has prettier girls. That's an old ugly hag.
>>8004047>Porn has prettier girlslol
I've posted a few of my comic strips on here before
>>7999922>Am I thinking about this too much? I feel like I have no artistic sense of mind.Yes, I read it earlier and just thought, "heh, good punchline today. This is a good place to test out, "can I get away with not drawing the interior of the car". Turns out you can.
>>7999927This was a very helpful comment, anon. Appreciate
>>7983758Even if you're white, your art his Asian in heart. The humor is very East Asian, similar to Mingu (Korean artist who also started off on 4chan).
So... If I want to paint something green, I should avoid using the green color...Eh? Eeeeh?
>>8003931Green is not a creative color
>want to paint "green" pear>look inside>it's actually atomic yellow with a layer of gray underneath
>>8003962that's a yellow pear
SAI 2 updated after almost 2 years of near radio silence with a new dark mode and some cool stuff like halftones and a lasso fill. It's pretty sick
>>8003188What does this even mean? It's just a toggle so like for example it uses the same brush etc. taht you used to draw?
>>8003211>CSP is also on mac and android. I understand what you're trying to say but lowering a score because a company isn't developing for a disparate group of OSs that just barely cracked 5 percent market share is just petty, and I completely switched to baremetal linux.Well you know that's your opinion and mine is that windows is becoming so terrible it actively brings down everything that's tied up to it. If you're a developer and value your software you shouldn't make it a windows exclusive. Mac and android aren't real alternatives. I know what you mean about the 5% market share though. You don't earn much revenue from linux and since it's an open platform it's hard to support.>The complaints about defaults are also bizarre. When you move into a new home, are you made that the furniture isn't where you would put it, or do you just move the furniture yourself? It takes two seconds to change a shortcut. Be grateful you're not left-handed, you'd be very disappointed all the time.That's a good point, and defaults wouldn't be such a big deal if every program had good customization but most of the time they don't. They usually lack something important. The user interface in aseprite is so good it's hard to settle for anything else after. For example I also found out krita doesn't allow assigning the same keybind to multiple tools. It's really handy when you want to cycle though variants of a similar tool without having to remember a billion keybinds.>>8003235Yeah it's really annoying, I wouldn't be able to get used to it because it's too different from other programs. It's not a huge deal but it's like a pebble that you can't remove from your shoe.
>>8003240Lots of artists use Macs. It's still UNIX at its core. If we want more people to make the switch, we can at least point them towards a recognizable safe direction instead of trying to throw them feet first into the Arctic with the rest of the penguins.
>>8003137it's nice when reviewers say so much retarded stuff because then you can just disregard all of their opinions.
>>8003240>Yeah it's really annoying, I wouldn't be able to get used to it because it's too different from other programs. It's not a huge deal but it's like a pebble that you can't remove from your shoe.Literally you have to change the eraser to another brush if you want to I don't know do normal pencil line work and then erase it with a big eraser? Wtf?
How do I have fun with drawing? I want to draw, talk about my and other's drawings, and improve along the way, but drawing all alone then posting it to some void online just... screams at me its absurd. There's some schizos that can sit in their man caves and draw whatever the fuck they do, quality be damned, but I'm not one of them. And in the last few years when I draw I get mild satisfaction or frustration and don't touch the pencil for days to months after that. Very few people seem to appreciate tools or techniques (pic unrelated on this one), despite screeching about ai or some other boogeyman.I dunno, it all seems pointless without some community that's actually interested in drawing.Also, opinions of non-draws drive me up the wall. They can praise or criticize the most unexpected things in my art, and I get mind fucked trying to understand what they're even seeing. The random praise is the weirdest, I get a compliment on something I consider mediocre to meaningless and I'm left wondering what is going on their head.
>>8002895Community is a huge part of it, yeah. You need to feel like you're a part of something and that other people know what you're going through; that's what gives me the motivation to keep going, anyway. That's part of why I value /ic/ so much.>>8003009Anon it was basically impossible to become an artist back in the Renaissance if you weren't embedded in a real physical community of other artists. You had to physically go talk to them so you could learn from them. Paradoxically, the internet has enabled people to be fully isolated from each other because it's easier to get whatever resources you need for free online.
>>8003030Yeah, there's a life drawing session near me that's mostly boomer amateurs who just have a habit of going out and socializing as part of their hobbies. They may be lead -brained but we can still learn some things from them
>>8002913I can't talk and draw either
>>8002966>Problem is it seems most are very resistant to community. Most everyone here is a misanthrope or beyond shy so nobody really makes any effort to link up.Where do you think you are?
>>8003870>Where do you think you are?I know where I am, here just kinda blows sometimes
Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.Just keep them art related.Previous: >>7977583
This was kinda fun. Wasn't trying to copy it 1:1, just get the general feel across and have fun.
Any anons here also paint minis? My airbrush spray booth is now in my PC room. Even though I have a ventilation booth, I'm wondering if I should cover my screen tablet with a towel or something just in case to avoid any fine mist getting on it
>>8002884>>8001508>>7999721>>7996495what's going on here?
>>8002884>>8001508>>7999721>>7996495AI SLOP
>>8002730I feel sick. The bad thoughts won't go away. I will never have what I want because I'm fundamentally flawed. I want to puke
