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I got a few weeks off from work so I'm gonna spend a couple hours each day going through Burne Hogarth's "Drawing Dynamic Hands". I think I read somewhere that when Frazetta was starting out as an artist he learned by copying out all the illustrations from Bridgman's "Constructive Anatomy", so I plan to do the same but with the Hogarth book. I thought it might be interesting to post all my studies in single a thread to record the process (and so that I don't clutter up the draw thread with them)

Hogarth is an artist I've been meaning to study from for a while but never got around to. If you've been procrastinating on studying him too, use this thread as an excuse to sit down and draw! I'm going to go through the book in order from front to back, but I'm sure you could do a study of any of his plates and come away with something. We can crit each other's drawings/share observations maybe. The book is online for free here:
https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/art/Drawing/Burne_Hogarth-Drawing_Dynamic_Hands.pdf

If anyone has any experience drawing from Hogarth or has gone through the book before, critique/general thoughts on his work is very welcome
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>>5377826
>Bridgman studies selling for $17,000 dollars
How long until I can charge such an amount?
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>>5377982
All you gotta do is change the face of the fantasy genre then die
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Hogarth has such a way with adding gesture into his anatomy.
It might be a little counterintuitive but I've been enjoying studying Hogarth as a warmup. His fine details and emphasis on line seem to do a good job preparing me for more drawing.
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OP, what other sources have you learnt/studied from? What would you say was the hardest fundamental to overcome for you?


>>5375052
the materials dont make the artist, i'm fuly aware

i AM ngmi, but not for that question
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>>5377826
holy shit that's cool

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why does he never talk about feeling the form? is he just a copier?
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>>5372562
He talks about drawing, what u see and what u like to see. He doesn't really copy, if you look at his demo closely he changes the proportion of a the refference and make the shadows pop more.
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>>5372758
>It’s like all the classic novels out there - nobody’s bothered to read the fucking thing but everyone thinks they should because others tell them it’s the best thing ever.
Retard
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>>5372562
You won't learn anything from this dago pot of sauce. Go hampton for sure.
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>>5376155
Listening to Watts and trying to narrate the voices can be a fun pastime.
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>>5372562
>>5372571
He will just teach you to copy accurately, he really doesn't understand anything about the form, doesn't think in 3d, he's just a cheap camera.

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>tfw male
>tfw can't stop drawing sexualized females even though I want to make deeper art
how do I overcome this?
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>>5374417
Got stuck inside a nude woman loop for about 2/3 years.
What got me out of it was to go to art school and be forced to do random assignements
Just pretend you have a subject and a deadline it helps
My teachers didn't understand how I was so good at live drawing despite having never done it before

I'm sure they knew
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>>5374423
Not OP anon but this is what I did. Only now I want a bf
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I'm a comic artist, and what I'm working on now has no sexualized women.

But my sketch pad is 100% sexualized cutegirls catering to my fetishes. I'm talking HUNDREDS of pages of cutegirls being embarrassed and red-faced and flustered because I'm teasing them about their smelly feet and/or armpits. ENF (Embarrassed nude female) where the girl is so embarrassed she squirts out embarrassment cum as I tease her. Girls talking about jogging in thick socks to make their feet as smelly as possible to appeal to me because they want to fuck me.

Fuck I hope nobody looks at this crap when I die.
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>>5378239
Ok Dan Slott
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>>5377550
I can relate, but as a 31 year old who has never touched a girl period.

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You should be able to draw something with completely fucked up anatomy and it should still look beautiful because of your high quality calligraphy, linework, and the gestural fluidity of the lines
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Rubens made up a lot of his anatomy
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>>5378099
based rubens. if that was real these people would be so horribly deformed and covered in tumors but it still looks beautiful
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>>5378099
Ghoulish
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>>5378102
if we were real you would dread each second of your living day.
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>>5378093
yeah

Can /ic/ suggest modern artist that paints like Caravaggio, Bouguereau etc ?
Pic related is Roberto Ferri
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>>5377783
is this blood libel ?
kek'd at the jew expression
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>>5378147
yes, the j00s got at him for this and everytime he posts his art since, some jew comments on it with your standart antisemitism accusation lol. On of the best painter right now btw
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>>5378162
why the face of the top Jesus on the left has derpy face? It somehow reminds me of a monkey or the zika baby with the short and closer eye gap.
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Cesar Santos
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>>5378246
LMAO

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>just draw
draw what?
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who do I trace? I can't draw or come up with anything original so I want to copy a popular style that won't get me in trouble.
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>>5377800
This is an amazing idea!
>>5378006
This is not
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draw kino
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>>5375731
Draw what you're interested in. I like drawing motorcycles, guns, busy city streets, aliens, anatomy (I'm interested in anatomy on its own), huge boilers with lots of pipes, engines, really anything that has a lot of detail. The more details there are, the more drawing I get to do. Before you worry about drawing anything specific you need to figure out what you're interested in and what you enjoy drawing. If you don't enjoy drawing anything then mix up the process; do boxes first or maybe do a light sketch only instead of planning everything out.

If you still don't like it then put down the pencil and go play video games or something. If you're actually into art then it won't take long for you to see something you really want to draw. You could also just give up completely.
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>>5372816
Man, this is some top tier trolling.

Everyone started drawing for one reason or another.Or has a long term goal besides just getting better

So which one is yours?And how close you are from it?

Mine is doing fanart of this faggot,but I haven't draw a single pic of him after a year and a half
I'm still not good enought
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I wanna earn a about £1500 a month with coommissions
I earn about £300 atm because I'm too lazy to work more than 30 hours a month
Once I hit this goal I will presumably be as miserable, comfortable and despondent as I was in my wagie.
Maybe I can work on a passion project and hope people keep supporting me, coom or not
Or I'll change my ways and actually want to work in an office, or at least in a team and build a big project together
I'll know once I get there
>>5378098
post your last attempt at drawing him
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>>5378098
Mine is to become a teacher. It’s gonna take a long-time. I’m still far from that goal.
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Become the best shota artist, Alke levels of good no less

Is he ic-approved? His basics and perspective course seem legit
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>>5377955
I'm a fucking retard, I meant upper right.
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>>5377918
just watch proko and marshall
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>>5377918
He looks like Dwight Schrute lol.
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>>5377918
>>not daddy huston
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never heard of him but I like his construction
gonna check him out

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_nZ4gDufY

Hey /ic/ I know a lot of you could use something like this. I've been following this software development for a while and I think its really solid. Also share some of your favorite references ITT?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_nZ4gDufY
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>>5372258
one image can't be In multiple folders unless you duplicate it. Tags solve that problem
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>>5372258
Its a power user thing. Default explorer has space occupied by things you dont need and would require fidgeting to change, while a dedicated image browsers has maximised space for the specific content of images. Doesnt require an external app to be open to view them. Doesnt require to overburden your side bar with quick access folder that is used not just for art.

Same reason to use something like Q-Dir for file management instead of default explorer. So you dont have to have 2 different file browsers open, you can have 2 or 3 or 4 in different layouts that suits your needs. Has tabs, remembers sessions. Its an efficiency thing.
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>>5359779
wtf
is this Chinese software? fuck that
Uninstalling now
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Soooo anyone wants to drop their eaglepack?
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>>5359779
>protip for the trial period, if you have a laptop don't turn it off, just sleep. it won't count as days .
been using it for a week and still have 30 days left

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I'm very new to 4chan, but I like Pepe so I'm gonna start a thread and try to draw some pepes. So, everyone who sees this thread, suggest your pepes and I'm gonna draw some of them that can be considered creative. Suggest their position, expression, things they hold or do or whatever. Maybe I'll even draw a background if I'm not too lazy. Go ahead, I hope it's gonna take about 15 minutes per pepe.
Pic unrelated.
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>>5377977
ok that shit really takes too long. Ima leave this idea.
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>>5377977
why not draw the count instead

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first reply will be mine
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>>5376182
best one yet lol

>>5376983
no, not me sorry
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>>5365850
First pose that came to mind.
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>>5368191
This would have never occurred to me gj thinking outside the box anon.
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>>5369287
AIGMI
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>>5365850
More gesture anon

How can I improve on my sphere?
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>>5377815
looks fine to me
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>>5377815
You can't
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>>5377815
Why don't you draw something that like?
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Look at a photo and compare
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>>5377815
Check against this list. https://www.dorian-iten.com/see-more/

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Do you think of yourself as a feminine or masculine artist? Is your art very gestural and watery (think Vilppu) and when you screw up your art tends to look sloppy or very accurate and precise (think Watts) and when you screw up it tends to look soulless and stiff?
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Reading this thread makes me wonder if all of this modern understanding of identities is just a misunderstanding of sorts...
Because to me, this whole masculine and feminine bs stuff just means that zoomers and a significant amount of people currently are confusing the ""Gender"" spectrum with Yin&Yang? Is that why Asian women seem to be more polite and Asian men more refined compared to their Anglo counterparts? Especially right now?
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>>5377683
It's more that modern identity politics has completely destroyed most people's ability to think with nuance, half of the posters in this thread think that male vs female energy in art means you identify with weird pronouns which leads to ngmis like >>5376716 who can't breakdown the elements of a piece of art without having trannies living in their heads rent free.

>Because to me, this whole masculine and feminine bs stuff just means that zoomers and a significant amount of people currently are confusing the ""Gender"" spectrum with Yin&Yang? Is that why Asian women seem to be more polite and Asian men more refined compared to their Anglo counterparts?
You're still thinking of this thread's gendered question as if it has a reflection of sex in reality, we're talking about sexual energy within ART
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>>5377752
>You're still thinking of this thread's gendered question as if it has a reflection of sex in reality, we're talking about sexual energy within ART

yeah, but how do you really define sexual energy? especially in relation to biological sexes? and in combination with the masculine and feminine?

throw in the whole LGBT shit complicates things further, even though the poster earlier said that Yuros seem to be able to grasp its nuance to the point it doesn't even interfere in opposite sex relationships.
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>>5373454
>>5372957
>>5372789
Show me examples because whenever I see woman drawing men its always men being gay and looking almost looking like woman.
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>>5377752
shut up science bitch

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Rate my station. post your stations. lets see them

>I got a Huion 16 2021, Intuos Pro M, and some brush pens on the left.
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>>5376743
Its kinda sad no one asked this til now
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>>5376178
Hold on that desk...
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>>5375447
You posted your room in /g/ I remember
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>>5376265
What OS is that? I don't recognize those folders icons.
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>>5376338
Probably not, since I rented a room in a house. I wouldn't be surprised if the building were made by the same group, or if it's a common design. The place I'm in feels mass produced.

>>5377768
Ubuntu Studio with xfce as the desktop environment.

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Post artwork you've made in traditional media for critique or just for funsies lolololol
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>>5363907
Pro tip:

You're going to get more out of classical contraction drawing techniques and 'blocking in' tutorials than you'll get from Bob. Nothing against what he's doing for his average viewer, but if you're going to put that much effort into learning landscape painting, there's a much more effective way to get to point B.

I legitimately want you to improve because the effort is there and you obviously want it. You've probably gotten all you can from bob, and should move on to other lessons. Seriously, you're at a point where you should learn from a professional or educator because you're going to work your way into pigeonhole techniques.
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how do I take good photos of my art?
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>Japanese parliamentary brawl I did in February
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>>5377011
Nice
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>>5373748
Abandoned that woeful sketch and am working on this atm:




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