I'm planning on making my own doujins/comics, short 15-20 pages, but I'm looking for tips on how to organize everything beforehand instead of just doing whatever. Kinda like storyboarding I guess or smth
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>>8019968>>8019980caught in 4k
Doodle Thread: post ur doodles or else DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>8006202idk what you tapped in there, but this profile gave me oneitis. The eyebrows are so strong for example, idk, shit makes my kees weak. Yes im a simp, im addicted to the female form sue me
>>8002503I feel like with that amount of blood on the blade, the slash would leave more blood spatter on her and her armor. Besides that, this is absolutely sick, nice drawing!
My friend commissioned an artist for a certain price, I would like to hear your guys opinion on this artist skill level and the price that you think fits an illustration like this. Just to compare it with the amounts my friends are paying for
>>8016686The male ranges from low beg to middle beg. His left hand is the best drawn part of his body; the artist probably draw that early on.The girl ranges from beg to int. Her arms are bad, but the lower torso is decent.The strongest part of this piece is the rendering. Like many have already said, the artist has varying degrees of mastery of fundamentals, but he covers it with rendering (i.e. a "turd polisher"). Hair and tail rendering in particular are the strongest parts of this drawing.So even though I'd put this piece as a low int at most (and somewhere near beg if it was just line art), that doesn't mean the artist himself is at that skill level. I'd wager his artworks vary between each other from mid beg to mid int. This sort of large variation is usually a trait of beginners, so my final answer is "beginner".
this nigger said mid int
>>8016686It does the job even though its sloppy 10/10
>>8018071PYW
>>8017749>Nta Sure budNot reading all that
Is there a way to get more work for human artists these days? It seems opportunities are diminishing rapidly, everywhere you look more and more instances of AI appears in real life. Why is it that on the internet people seem to be very anti-AI, yet it's being increasingly adopted in real life? We're not even getting into the artist who photobash/trace AI, is there even any stopping people like that?
>>8017110When the "bubble" pops, the taxpayers will be forced to bail out another "too big to fail" industry. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses/costs (enjoying your higher electricity bill and computer part costs while our government subsidizes the epstein classes' whims?). The best parts of communism for the rich disguised as "capitalism", while the rest of us get the worst parts of communism disguised as "capitalism".
>>8017110>It won't, not in the way we think, like with the dot-com bubble.I'm not so certain. These companies need to pay to keep their servers up, but the internet was something more widespread that doesn't end when a single provider or site shuts down. If OpenAI shuts down, ChatGPT goes with it. That said, you're right that the tech is here to stay, it'll just be interesting to see how the bubble burst will change how it's used. Unfortunately, since Midjourney is one of the few AI companies that is actually profitable, and unless I'm missing something about their organization that's fudging their numbers, image generation is likely to be staying.AI companies will probably become far more niched, like Midjourney is for image generation, or Claude is for programming.
>>8017268Who tf uses midjourney? Besides half the the adoption is forced anyways at best it’s just industry Stockholm syndrome.
>>8017201the normies get constantly warned and they never give a shitwell, good fucking thing i'm unemployed (on government welfare)
>>8019397>Who tf uses midjourney?Who knows, but they are one of the profitable AI companies all the same.
Man, Artificial Idiot will never be able to make quality art...
>>8018957>>8018975Yeah but it only produces shit that already exists. I bet a few years down the line half the AI content will look eerily similar to one another.
>>8019387Is it because it will train on each other ?
>>8019579No, because the way it functions will always produce middle of the the road shitLLMs function by predicting the most likely outcome so they will always be tied down to basic bitch shit
>>8018655>in the end Chris Chan got more money and more pussy with his art than most the anons heredelete this
>>8018975It’s been able to do that since 2023, where have you been?
Isn’t the perspective just wrong here? Eyes aren’t aligned with the snout.How common are errors like this in professional animation?
sometimes one can just cheat the perspectiveespecially drawing a cartoon dinosaur
>>8019248Cartoon dinosaurs are VERY important
>>8019108It's hard to say whether this is or is not in correct perspective from this single image. First, we can't assume this character's features are perfectly level. Second, you seem to be basing the bottom line on where the edges of his tooth meets his lips. This is not appropriate, since the mouth changes shape and angles constantly. Even the entire muzzle can twist and move in a cartoon.You do not use soft bodies as landmarks.
>>8019108It looks right therefor it is right
>>8019363Bot ass post
am i fucked if i dont get this
>>8019325not as much as in the past, like before the 2000s when you couldn't just use sketchup or a built in perspective assistant in your art program to aid you you'd be fucked, but perspective is still a fundamental, often ignored. erik olson's entire perspective course in on bilibili, it's like 100 hours long and treats you like a retard who doesn't know shit about anything. i'd honestly suggest you watch it.knowing perspective let's you be precise and add anything to any drawing and know it's correct and fits in that space.drawabox has crippled a generation of artists into just guestimating shit, instead of being able to confidently say they can rotate their box by any arbitrary amount you could ask them and know it's correct they just get their rectangular prism to mostly look right by having it converge to the idea of a vanishing point whether it makes sense or not where they place them in relation to other objects in a compostion.
>>8019421nta but I would strongly recommend drawing your immediate surroundings from multiple angles if you want to improve at perspective drawinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzg8-njCIm8&t=575sthe key is to identify your horizon line, place your vanishing points (if this is difficult, read how to draw by Scott Robertson for help), and then draw while making sure that everything is scaled properlythe problem with your typical perspective drawing books or YouTube videos is that the classic instruction was originally meant for people who have either spent time doing the pre-req work of constant life drawings or have plenty of mileage and a strong visual memory from copying/studying (it's a similar problem found with constructive drawing textbooks and courses)>>8019439exactly, drawabox is pretty damaging if you aren't actually composing boxes from life in the proper context to make the information stick and clickyou will have an easier time by instead drawing a model/toy car, a plastic toy/model replica rifle, or studying feet, torsos, or heads from various angles>>8019325Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>8019400bold of you to assume I know how to draw eyes or mouths
>>8019325its based on real life, your room is probably a cube.
>>8019485prespective is one piece of the puzzle, but you will notice that alot of illustration and art doesnt conform to perspective perfectly, just vaguely going towards vanishing points.
Do you niggas really bust out an entire tablet (plus laptop) out in public?
>>8017510Its the Apple Pencil 2 (I think). Screen protector is a good idea. The surface feels plastic, so this might be it... but the previous owner must have expertly applied it, I see or feel no bump. I'll take a closer look after work
>>8011625Yup, did this a lot in college whenever I had to do commissions. Thankfully, our libraries weren't too open and I never encountered people going up to you and asking shit.
>>8018526Lack of texture perhaps.
>>8018526Everyone I've ever talked to says they couldn't get comfortable drawing on an iPad
>>8018532I see, it could just be the actual screen, so be careful.
Is the strategy to make NSFW/ fetish visual novels/ games?I've seen a bunch make a whole heapa money, and the updates tend to be slow, with a surprising lack of sprites. I figure I can write some story, or get somebody else to write for me, while I just draw probabably less than 100 sprites, with most just being variations.
>>8017761>800 membersYou can join and be a member for free with no benefits. 268/796 members are paying though.The associated x account with 25 followers is based in Israel. Their IG has 57 followers but with deeper digging though, they have a deviantArt with 2.7k watchers... kinda levels it all out I think, probably not that fishy.Minimum they're making is $804 though. Still kinda gay.
>>8011266i think so but it has to be somewhat honest. think of your most "depraved" or "shameful" (you might not feel that way about it, but it's how others want you to feel) fetish and now think about all the unique ways you want to see it portrayed. it's your Thing now. you will attract your fellow perverts and make $$$aka you can do this but you gotta find a niche first and it's gotta be something you genuinely love. guys like fenoxo could only make all that dough because at the time futa furry girls were a niche nobody else was really doing in the way he was doing them, and not with his level of sincerity or obsession either
>>8011326>75 cm tall>weighing 70 kgHoly shit, that's a massive lard. Wtf is this shit?
So according to the financial experts on /ic/, patreon is a perfect system that immune from money laundering and fraud. You guys should have worked in the irs instead of being retarded nodraws. Fucking retarded SEAniggers.
>>8017967>>8017761> 800 members. Dude that nothing, look at this guy guy. 5.2k members. A fair few are probably free, but hes probably making at least 5k a month from this fat fetish gamehttps://www.patreon.com/cw/TheGrowState
Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.Just keep them art related.
What happened to the last thread?
>>8022142good riddance
>>8022226idk, someone else can make a new one
>>8022435whythis isn't even at page 10
New>>8022774>>8022774>>8022774>>8022442Not even /beg/ waits until page 10
How is it different from pornography?
Is this (then) porn?
>>8008872I believe she filmed to show the 'horror' of her supposed sexual assault.There's also actual movies, usually romance, where the love scenes are actual sex between the actors, though I haven't watched any of them myself -- if I want to wank, I don't need that much buildup, haha.
>>8015130You pervert!
>>8018184and now?
Art becomes pornography when the sexual elements usurp every other element. This sorta means that what is and is not porn depends on the observer, but only to a point. If you look at a piece of art and your first thought is “wow she’s squeezing her boobs together, that’s hot” then that’s porn. If, like in the OP, your first thought is “wow, I wonder how the artist made this” then it’s probably not pornography. But at the end of the day it’s like that one guy said, you know it when you see it.
Hello anatomy gods of /ic/, I come to ask for help in a time of great need.What is the muscle/bump in between the pectoralis and the abs? Most of my anatomy references cover the pectoralis major, the external oblique, and the abdominal areas, but the tendons that form the divisions are rarely addressed. That said, my favorite artists do draw this particular muscle (?) bump. It is a costal margin bulge, since it seems to follow the same shape as the rib cage opening.Is this way of shaping the muscles more of a stylization, or is it anatomically correct (and in this case, what causes it)?
>>8018433I did study the bones first. But I was still confused on what was causing this particular bulge.>>8018480None of the drawing references I gave were western comic. I only like anime, and all my favorite artists are Asian. Many mangakas do this.>>8018525Hmm, so it is like a mix of the abs slightly over the rib cage with the bone pushing it out from under the skin?
>>8018404Does this help at all, OP?
>>8018786Nope, I have this book and have been using it. But just as you see in the picture, it does not cover or have that specific bulge. It covers the pectoralis, the external oblique, and the abs, as well as other details such as the tendons.I thought it could be that little bump around the EpD.
>>8018404This part is the exaggeration of the xiphoid process. The end of the ribcage and an important piece of anatomical reference. The fascia of the abs hug over the xiphoid process and this small area is not covered by muscle > t. Nurse
>>8018675>None of the drawing references I gave were western comic. That doesn't matter? The Japanese are taking the same information.
I have a 8-10 hours labour job at the day and could only drawing at night. But I have never been able to extend my drawing time beyond 1 hour, I always felt sleepy and tired right after the 1 hour mark. My goal is to be able to draw for more than 5 hours daily at night. Any advice? I'm willing to do anything at this point.
>>8017532But working night shifts can fuck your health over time because the sleep shceudle, no?
>>8017622you guys consider drawing fun? i just draw because i want the finished project and i have nothing else to do but burn time
>>8017920i have insomnia and i'm unemployed. i sleep from 3 PM to 12 AM and i draw until sunrise, do my online classwork at noon.as long as you get enough sleep, it doesn't really matter what time you wake up and go to bed. recommend taking some vitamin D pills regularly, though. the lack of socialization will get to you eventually, even if you're an introvert.
>>8017920If you're naturally inclined towards being a night owl it's mostly fine. If your biorhythm is "normal" you might have more problems.
>>8017529My advice is to join a daily magma or drawpile group. If you want I can make one and add you. If you reply to this message I'll post a link and I'll verify it's you by having you doodle something similar to what's in your OP image
Draw this in your art style
>>8010746you should take more time and obsevrve more and make corrections in your angles and measurements. this looks like 10 minutes to me. the two drawings i posted itt were about two hours. you cant underestimate the time spent not just training but also per drawing. getting 'good' is a constant waste of time
>>8006111Nice.
>>7947243Thanks for the challenge and eliminating my choice paralysis.
>>7978019Damn, total regression on this dude. So it goes. I'll try again in a month or so
>>7947243
>>8017769How can you understand anything if you need everything that drawing depends on to be explained to you? 99.9% of the information you need to understand cool history facts is the same shit as 99.9% of what you need to understand drawing.
>>8018248Left is way better thoughbeit
>>8018706It's also 4 years more recent. Please start using your eyes
>>8018685No, my art is fine (thanks to people who EXPLAINED things to me back in the day) this just reminds me of other similar moments when attempting to socialize or figure out why people don't "vibe" with me (the answer always boils down to not acting "average" enough emotionally and not handling social interactions "properly" (read: average) and doesn't seem to have much to do with interests or hobbies)
>>8015796>>8015595Marvel Rivals now
