it is not possible to draw this poorly if you understand forms.
>>8002228idk man those are some really bad forms. i dont think proko can do 3d objects properly
>>8002228It's fake. Like even if you've never drawn a kangaroo before you should remember they have a long tail and big jumpy legs and rabbit ears. These guys are just trying to sell more courses and get more subs from people that aren't creative and think there must be some magic formula they can practice.
>>7999598https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI
>>8002263He doesn't even say he's trying to draw a kangaroo. He was just drawing random shapes and said like "maybe it's a kangaroo." That doesn't mean he can't draw from memory.
>>8000675>Le 4chan big scary boogeyman!!! Ruin your lief!!! Scawwy!!!!Literally nothing happened, he's still one of the biggest names in the YouTube art community.
thoughts?
I like your representation of the lowest form of human life
first one is way better
>>7998794This might look like you like a shitty subhuman but for Indians that's +1220024500 izzat farmed from being so badass, dude gonna get isakai with 10000 waifus
>>7998689>finally free from the pain and misery of this earthly realm>his concept of happiness is so completely skewed that his idea of joy, etched into his immortal soul, is drugssad.
>>7998689>Well I don't need safety gloves because I'm Homer Simp...
hi guys i redrew an old character do you like him
looks cool actually
I like it...hand hider
>>8002439As nodt vibe
>>8002491my inspiration at the time was royal ripper from one punch...i did base a guy off as nodt here he is (redesign tho)
>>8002557this is my only pic of his first design from over a year ago
How do you know if an artist has got "it" or not? Picrel as the worlds most famous example
>>8002009wut? just cause you are ignorant and inept at first doesnt mean you cant get good.
>>8002315you sound mad
>>8002355>projection
>>8002413who hurt you sweatie
>>8002441"*WHOM hurt you sweetey"
no, i am normal, see?
>>8001834niggeraids
>>8001834There is a shotgun laying on the ground... take a guess
>>8001900>for that piece i took about 95% of the photos my selAre you chinese? Pretty cool regardless.My favorite photobasher is pic related
>>8002316>Are you chinese?no, fun fact though, i sent that chinese piece to chum lee on instagram, he liked it.
>the best-selling comic in the US atmThe only artists who truly make it these days draw like toddlers. If you're trying to master realism, you're competing with a million others for very few rewards.
>>8002288I think the success of the absolute line is how easy it is to jump in on without any prior context while being a fresh interpretation of the characters. You also don't have to be keeping up with multiple runs for other characters on the odd chance there's a load bearing surprise homework you need to do for the current villain
>>8002293>never knew captain underpantsYou must be 18 or older to post here.
>>8001925comics dont sell on quality in the US. They sell on hype and marketing and even scamming. Its not a normal market so the typical market forces do not apply.First of all, there is zero demand. Americans largely do not read and they have infinity video slop on their goyphone, so looking at still pictures is less desired. Second, the government and corporations are double fucking us daily for decades and have discouraged americans from appreciating things that enrich or imptove their lives. All art has to be slop or demoralization, education funding is slashed to make sure nobody understands anything. The problems go so much deeper than "nobody's buying comics".Finally, the precedent set by the big comic companies has made sure comics have a massive negative streotype associated with them. They had 100 years to make comics synonimous with capeslop, fat nerds, speculation markets for childrens toys, and the soulless rehashing of the same stories. This is exactly how the big two Marvel and Dc want it. They DO NOT want a market like japan where most comics are original stories made by creative and skilled geniuses. They spent 100 years making sure that didn't happen.So, it's not over. It just never began.
>>8001925It's not really fair to compare capeshit with Dogman. Dogman is a comic by definition only, but no comic fan is reading Dogman. It's a children's book and should be compared against other children's books. And no comic book store stocks Dogman.Generally speaking, comics means capeshit. Most comic book stores sell only capeshit. And when people saying comics is dying, they're saying capeshit is dying.By simple definition, manga is also comics, and manga is obviously not dying, nor does anyone call manga comics.What I mean to say is, Dogman has no impact on comics in any way. It is neither a resource to learn from, nor a warning to comics about anything. It's just apples and oranges. It's like comparing comic sales to Toyata car sales.
>>8002332>american slopThat explains it, the bubble strikes again
How do I design characters that appeal to men, other than just making the women really curvy - that part I already know.I'm working on a project and want to make sure there's enough for the male audience to chew on. I'm already good at appealing to women.
>>7982390Make the face cute, sexy or both. The body can be whatever as long as the proportions and anatomy are done well. Instead of sticking to the same type of girl every time do different body types and age range. One of favorite artists, mdf_an does this really well.>>7982413this anon knows what's up
>>7982413>who is missing both her handsYeah don't put that shit in anything, retarded sadist.
>>7982399>sharp teethMY MAN
>>7982390>>7982399seems like you're writing a more dominant leaning female, so i guess you should keep in mind THE CHASE. If the girl is too easy to obtain it becomes boringKeep that sentiment in mind, like she's giving you the honor of being near her, that special feeling it's only reserved to you and only you
>>8001891yea, ugly men are disgusting and it makes the women seem dirty for letting herself go that lowi guess that's the whole point of ugly bastard fetish in the first place. Not my thing, its just plain disgusting
Is this example of my artwork good enough? What should i fix? I only draw what i like btw (moe anime girls, furfaggotry and disney/niggalodeon cartoon men)
op is kuckywucky a degenerate third worlder with a mind irrecoverably raped by early internet access and mediocre 2000s cartoons. they are underage and mentally unstable. beware
>>8000288no>>8000345>kuckywucky GEGGG you typed my name wrong try again retard>mediocre 2000s cartoonsWho Framed Roger Rabbit, Bonkers, Rocko's Modern Life and Ren & Stimpy are 80s-90s millienial cartoons, get your stupid zoomer larper ass outta my thread <3
>>8000785>nodon't make me inpaint it
>>7999738because it's traced from an album cover, they're known to trace other people's art and falsely tributing to them.
>>8001910>because it's traced from an album coverThat's the joke m8>they're known to trace other people's art and falsely tributing to them.Lol, not a problem
Tom of Finland has a nice style but I don't like the whole hypermasculine homosex thing
>>8002075I fucking hate fake painting style.>>8002121I fucking hate concept-art style.Both look disgusting.
>>8002121Spiritually AI art
>>8002121reminds me of Steven Olds. a legend back in his Oddworld days but that was all done traditionally granted I've no idea how old this is since he has little digital presence, but the transition to digital is rough, just looks sterile like so much digital art. probably just photobashing that sucks seemingly without exception
>>8002018bait, you literally had to cherry pick a bad example
>widely seen as the best AI researcher the world (basically made the LLM revolution happen)>spends all his free time painting>complete permabeg despite a super high IQ and work ethicArt talent is like a magical power that no amount of IQ or effort can create.
>>7999391I dont need a soulless code monkey's thumbs up to know the inherent worth of human craft
>>7999391if this is oils then its decent, if not then he's shit.
>>8001322>soulless code monkeyAnon, he is literally the most creative researcher in computer science right now.
>>7999391you can have high work ethic and still assign little time to a side quest. In fact high work ethic people often don't spread very thin.I say that as someone who's spread thin into oblivion, but I'll stick to art forever.
>>8001594>computer "science">creativeYou need to go back delusional faggot
I’ve been giving digital painting another shot over the past few weeks. I’ve noticed that the beginning of a painting usually goes relatively well, but eventually I reach a point where I have no idea how to move forward. Either the painting starts getting worse, I can’t make the design feel interesting, or I simply can’t push it beyond the very rough concept stage (pic related).I’ve been trying to improve my values and my sense of scale, since I’m fascinated by artists who are able to portray enormous structures in a really convincing and atmospheric way.I’d really appreciate any advice or critique. Is there something specific I should be practising, or am I approaching the process in the wrong way? Or should I just give up painting altogether?
>>8001547I did use a layer which i constructed perspective lines on, but at some point I hid it to see if I could do it without guidance lines. As for reference i just looked at a bunch of photos of stranded shipwrecks and went on the megalophobia subreddit to finds cases of extreme perspeciive, I will try enabling my perspective lines again and then fixing the painting. >>8001468Yes, losing focus describes it pretty well. Sometimes I‘m even burnt out from a painting just by the thought of having to continue working on it.>>8001338I get what you mean and theres tons of artist that have these purposefil brushstrokes that carry lots of intent. Whenever i try to do that it just looks wrong tho. Which is a problem with values and line/stroke control i think. So really i just need to paint more?
>>8001429Here is another one of my drawings
>>8001189You should check out the art in Scorn the videogame, I am getting those kinda vibes from ur painting. They do megastructures really well. Also check out Zdzislaw Beksinski
>>8001668have you seen wayne barlowe's hell ? your work reminds me of him
>>8001660ist ok. Ich auch nicht :D
>KRSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH>COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH>now notice when we pull this>stretch these muscles>there are no rules>we are not aiming for perfect accuracy when defining parts of the body (starts naming surgical anatomy terms)Is video instruction really worth it? I am having the worst time of my life trying to follow Vilppu's video courses and the way he talks is so roundabout and loosey goosey that I can't absorb anything.
>>8001802you are the retarded one anon. It doesn't take a surgeon to learn the skeletal and muscular system of the human body.i'm sorry but you're ngmi
>>8001167All the best information is locked in videos. You really want to see how a pro artist does everything step by step in real time
Who the fuck cares about Vilppu, you have chinks like Krenz teaching applicable things that translate to actual spatial prowess whereas Vilppu is just some old fart that draws figures. You know who else teaches figure drawing? There are thousands of teachers doing same shit
>>8001997>Krenz CuSHARTif I wanted to practice drawing 3d perspective grids every time I wanted to draw something I'd pursue architecture and engineeringI want to fucking draw not become a mathematician
>>8001997that chink, like literally every single bug-men, simply just copypastes western information and creation and repackages them for clueless brownoids that thinks insects could ever actually create anything original.
Prep/Early edition>What is ArtFight?Artfight is an art gifting event that runs for the month of July where permabegs draw each others OCs for funhttps://artfight.net/>This years theme is Comedy vs Mystery vs TragedyThere are three teams this year. Which one are you on?Last year: >>7618337>>7646650
>>7999450Whats your username?
Does Artfight suffer from furries putting everyone's OCs into "not sexual" fetish art or are they tard wrangled?
>>8001521I haven't seen anything like that, and I browse the attacks often (with minimal filters) looking for active accounts to attack myself. There's an almost gleeful approach to regurgitating rules that you haven't seen since kindergarten. Many accounts have a full pages of rules about what you can and cannot do with their characters, most of them obvious and unnecessary. They're more an affirmation that "these things are bad and I'm good for saying so" rather than an attempt to prevent infractions that aren't really happening anyway.From what I've seen, you have little to worry about.
>>7999450>Hitlists What's even the point of those, you got 11 months to do art trades with your friends already
>>8001521human centipede
Being an illustrator in the 80s was so easy it's unreal.
>>8001182>I have never understoodthat means you're retarded
>>8001732>knowledge harder to come byYou retards can't possibly believe this. I've been using my grandmother books to learn how to draw dresses and they are way better than 90% of the garbage retards post on youtube. Most people can't even finish fun with a pencil because they lack the intelligence for it.I guess zoomer shitterbrain revisionism strikes again.
>>8001750You realize that you will waste your days regardless of what you do right? you will get old and you will die, you can sort of direct the ship but that's about it. God i hate you stupid nigger faggots so much, all the people worth something left already. Also good thing you learned life lessons through anime, keep posting them faggot.
>>8001936ESL just because you think some books were better doesn't mean knowledge was easier to find. If your grandmother handn't bought those books you'd still have the internet, but finding that same info was tough in the 80s when all you had was the local library and usenet. >Most people can't even finish fun with a pencil because they lack the intelligence for it.???>>8001938>you will get old and you will diebeing geriatric isn't the same as a 20-something procrastinator >all the people worth something left already.join them>Also good thing you learned life lessons through anime, keep posting them faggowhy do you talk so fucking weird? ESL? calm the fuck down anyways
>>80019381. chill out2. do not ever attempt to insult Kaiji again even by implying3. the philosophy of this scene in Kaiji is spoken by a cruel serpent hearted villain and his downfall is brought about by believing everyone around him lives by the same terrible conceited principles that he does... or did
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>>8004847that doesn't make sense I just told you I want to draw women you retard
A small one-page 4koma for fun
>>8002786Can't upload, it stays on 1% permanently..
>>8005093>it stays on 1% permanentlyThat's still x10 of what Kishimoto got, fucking grim, lads, i swear.
>>8004718I see what you mean with the noise. I don't have a scanner available atm, so I've just taken photos with my phone and adjusted the contrast and brightness. Could do a better job there with the coming pages for sure. And I'm not sure what happened to the font here. When I compare with previous chapters it looks much better thereStill working on my writing. I wanted their first interaction to be a bit silly, but maybe it just fell flat instead
