I exclusively draw in ms paint. How much am I limiting myself and is it worth learning something else if I just want to draw oekaki style shit like picrel (not my art) anyways?>INB4 why do you use paintBecause:>Can just start drawing - you don't have to spend time messing with settings or brushes. It even opens on a blank canvas>Comfy aliased brushes built in>I'm used to it>I am bad at controlling my line weight with pen pressure anyways.>Its already installed on my PC
>>7710769 >Use krita. It's freeNo retard. Krita's fill tool doesnt even work properly even compared to mspaint. It always leaves a tiny 1 pixel line around what you're filling in for no reason. No other painting program does this.
>>7711219skill issueit only happens if you're using brushes that aren't anti aliased. If you use a pixel brush (a default brush on krita) you would have the same experience as mspaint pencil. This is actually the same as other art programs, but judging by your post you don't really know how to make or customize brushes. Sad!
>>7700234>fanged noumenaI haven't heard that in a while, I don't even know where my copy is
>>7709859windows 11 paint even has layers, transparency and built in ai tools now, i hate it.
>>7711219works fine, you just have to adjust the settings depending on the result you want. in fact it's more customizable and better than most art software.
>artist draw the most autistic/disgusting/gross out topic you've ever seen>render somehow looks really good
>>7707335>someone with the capacity to git gud wouldn't be into fetishes for low IQ apesthat pure copium, there's no "good" fetish, no matter how much any one online circlejerk might lead you to believe, any kind of preference, kink or whatever you want to call it will have actual retards extremely devoted into it making ms paint tier bullshit on some corner of the internet
>>7707243Most of the fetish stuff is low quality so it is indeed can be quite surprising. Don't you have ever seen for some reason high quality hentai with giant insects that straight up rape schoolgirls? Cuz i did
>>7705992Butterchalk lovingly rendering the most beautiful pictures of little girls getting fucked by horses
>>7705992>artist draws the coolest pieces on a topic you really like>give them a follow and forget about them>months later get random hairy bara men art from themturns out they were only posting the topic for a short time, feelsbadman
>>7705992>"as an artist you have a freewill to create anything and-">"NO! NOT LIKE THAT!!!"lmao
Why does crabbing happen so often on /ic/? What causes it, and how do we prevent it and encourage more people to lift each other up instead?
>>7710094and all it literally takes is just hard work. some people are just stupid and lazy, you cant help them. i do still help people outside of here, because why not. some do actually grow from simple advice.
>>7709958According to the recounting of the performance, bad actors wound up sticking around to kind of relish in 'the game' with other bad actors, and because of this, the boundaries of what was allowed began to be pushed.You'd think they'd want to dip out to avoid social judgement, but it's similar to a human statue. You have douchebags that want to fuck with them, because they're not allowed to move to get them to break. You could make assumptions about what drives the psychology here, but the reality is everyone has their reasons for the why. During the art piece, there were actually people trying to defend her which created factions within the spectators. It's really an interesting view on the dynamics of humanity. Where some see a depraved game, others empathize and want to protect dignity or decency.Not be cynical or to say we're all monsters underneath, I just think it's a good way of showing that there's a spectrum between "good" and "bad" and that's what being human is.
>>7710014>People who come here read about its reputationThis is what happens with any online community. Although not necessarily true (or only partially true), if you successfully portray a group as X, people who are X will see this and think that group is for them. Eventually these newcomers outnumber the original users and perception becomes reality. It's a sort of flanderization.see this retard: >>7710155
Permabegs, jealousy, lack of improvement, the lot.I mean we also have some stuff posted here that is 100% deserved of crabbing, but that's less common than the crabs we have.
>>7709889I know this is going to be a crab opinion, but: /ic/ has a lot of really fucking dumb people and those people are just getting what they're owed.Being helpful is hard, helping people who don't want to be helped is impossible. There aren't more crabs here, the anonymization just makes people less afraid to call out shitty self-defeating behavior. You cannot fix these people. If you want to have some fun shit talking them, go ahead, it does you more good for you than any amount of help would do them.Regardless, there are actually significantly less 'real' crabs here because the lack of notoriety doesn't promote the sequestering of power. If you go on any art discord, you won't find helpful people, you'll find people who want to show off how smart they are, so you never get real helpful answers to anything. Actual crabs aren't the people throwing around insults. Actual crabs are the people who force feed you their own methodology to make sure that anything that person learns is downstream from the crab.
Rate my loomis exercise!
>>7710938What is it with permabegs and just randomly drawing that fucking head and posting it on the internet? >>7710773
>>7710977I am fucking with you.
>>7710977The face is the first thing you see unless you're drawing porn
I did this shit for 20 years, it ain't that hard bro.What to use for it:-GraphicsGale Use this if you want something good and free. been using it since the days it was a paid program.-Asesprite. desu I don't like this thing the UI is dogshit but everyone swears by it so it's probably fine.-ProMotion NG. uhh, lmao? I guess if you like photoshop this is cool but it is a gigantic pain in the ass to use for animation.-Photosh- no, get that shit outta here. garbage.THINGS TO LEARN WITH:LOSPEC:https://lospec.com/pixel-art-tutorialsI don't personally think these are the best tutorials out there but they're good to start out with and it's a bunch of stuff in one place.The Pixelogic book is actually good atleast.OLD THINGS:https://web.archive.org/web/20130501035641/http://pixel-zone.rpgdx.net/shtml/tutorials.shtmlComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7706305Hit me up, name is the same as on discord. I was feeling like getting back on the horse proper anyway so I wouldn't mind having a job lined up. I love making bosses!
>>7706393I'll save your name and give you a shout in a couple of months. I have to finish up with the projects I'm currently helping out with, but I'll be sure to reach out to you eventually.
Not enough free time to animate the body
>>7709217I do like it though I feel it would be better served if you did a downscale on the effects part of it to match the resolution of the figure.
>>7706404Might wanna just go ahead and add me so we can shoot the shit etc. I like hearing about stuff early so I can get an idea of whether I'm the right person for the job ahead of time anyway. Anyways, I'm probably not sticking around this thread anymore cuz there's not as many folks interested in doing this stuff as I thought would be here. A shame really, but them's the breaks sometimes.
If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7712184Insufferable newfaggot thinks threads are upbotes. We should unironically make /int/ a thing now. Let the crabs rot in hell.
>>7712184That's embarrassing.
>>7712277>newnigger doesn't know /int/ threads have already been triedThere's already a separate /int/ thread you retarded newfaggot.
Hello, been working on this. I should def redraw her right hand. Besides that, what you guys think is off? In terms of proportions at least
>>7712683
>no /moai/ thread
BUMP
>>7693637AWOOGA
>>7600360bump noo i don't want this thread to be dead
>>7706902Then post some moai art.
>>7600360Please. Sybau
>he draws his cube with 30 strokes
>>7705780inspiring
>>7706429I kneel
if you need more than one stroke, you're ngmi
>>7705537This image is a bit disingenuous. The main reason why the cube on the left looks bad is because they drew the cube with curvy sides without much regard for perspective and made it wobbly and less structural, not necessarily because of the amount of strokes (which certainly doesn't help your line confidence, but that's a poor way to sell your point).
>>7705537One stroke
Is drawing porn for yourself a form of addiction? Can you eventually get desensitized doing this??
I have ∼developed the concepts of 'Ludo-sigil' and 'Thorem'. Therefore, the rigorous approach to art has solid foundations and no communicative ambiguity.
>>7710366I think their goal is to develop a system that describes visual language in its purest form. Like writing for words, or musical notes for music. Their statement saying that using words to teach art is limited when you can be using a purer way to teach visual language. At least that's what I think they're trying to say.
>>7710186You do you schizo-kun
>>7710582The issue becomes whether their method is truly universal, which can only be tested through consistent application and successful use of for teaching visual language. The problems become apparent if their method is too esoteric to really be of use or make sense to anybody but them, at which point, it just becomes schizobabble.
>>7710366There exists 'sensory thought'."We have a 'RED' ".Perfect communication would be the explicit transmission of such a red [telepathy].At present, we cannot do this.We employ external-probabilistic proxies to approximate such perfect transmission [traditional language].There exists 'meta-thought'.Innate relational structures.Equal, larger, smaller...Mathematics.There exists 'meta-sensory thought', which is the interrelation of these two approaches.This meta-sensory thought has a property: the level of entropy, which is determined by 'will' [local enrichment] and by 'empiricism' [external enrichment].Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7710653>sensory thought 'RED'I don't think so. Red is just a reference to something the listenener has already seen. We are told that x visual sensation is named 'red', if you were from another country it would be named differently. The sensation is not encoded in the word, only a reference.>There exists 'meta-sensory thought', which is the interrelation of these two approaches.example ? I don't see how you can define relations between art concepts like in math, because these concepts are ill-defined. Math is carefully constructed to define it's building blocks to allow this, not art.
Reminder that under the pagan Greeks and Romans, bronze sculpture flourished, producing masterpieces such as the Equestrian Aurelius.Immediately after the Christians took control, they deliberately destroyed all art, considering it to be sinful. For the next 1000 years art and bronze sculpture in particular resembled nothing more than low relief blobs.It was not until Cellini in the renaissance that sculpture finally returned to the level of artistic skill of the pagan Greeks and Romans. And while he may have been a Christian, what did he chose to sculpt? Not Jesus... but Perseus. A pagan figure.
>>7681020The guy in the back getting hit in the balls with a stick
>>7707236Thats true but in terms of artistic ability the ancient world was undoubtedly better than the medieval one. By Pax Romana we are getting 2D art that looks quite lifelike and this is without any oil paint. To clarify Medieval art isn't bad or lacking in any sort of techniques, some of it is really beautiful. But its all just stylized religious art and nothing more.
>>7684968>Michelangelo, RaphaelThe renaissance is the revival of pagan art and ideals. Their subjects were christian because it's where the money came from, but Michelangelo and Rapahel were apprentices of the pagans of classical antiquity and paid homage to them whenever they could.>ShakespeareShakespeare would have been Shakespeare with or without christianity.>the Age of Enlightenment, individual rightsAll things that stem from hellenic politics and philosophy, not from christianity.
>>7707374You may want to look up Shakespeare's last will and testament
>>7680569I really like this, it captures the sculpture well
>drawing on the trainIs there anything more pretentious, more attention-seeking?
>>7704162>You can draw openly on your lap >Or you can just sit normally and sketch with a decent postureWhat's the difference?
>>7701091Da Vinci BTFO
>>7699807>Is there anything more pretentiousbeing a judgemental pos
>>7699807Bugs... easy on the carrots
Retards no one pays attention to people drawing on trains except autists, you can do it freely. Everyone just thinks you're doodling. Just as a student studying flashcards or someone writing on a small notebook, there's no attention-seeking to be found
^ switcharoo them for inspiration order also red left green right hand iirc.Song by Hella btw except in my nodes it was sped up. RED and green are complementary colours. For al i no it culd b wong song. mayyyyb Yubacore (track two west of N Temple stand on south east side facing west to catch the tungsten sun song lampreys) the fourth most played song of optimates prime. Number one being that peacecsong by CHLL PLL LOL AT WHY KIKI. what bar is best to get myself fixed up by order of gross, nosejob, chewing cuddy pounded chiral quartz, vapefag and several sverre contussions...and being a WOCKER CORAL. even better if it takes me to my brothers "property" Murlocke Mountain even though its literally a 2.702D mountain LOL
>>7710451You need help. (;ŏ﹏ŏ)
>>7710451Now for your next trick, draw on your boobs and post it.
Do you like art styles that emphasize the nose?
>>7702561gofy nose ahh
>>7703351He draws amazing lips too. I wish more manga artists drew lips on women but it's pretty rare. More common in comics but not a lot of good ones with sexy lips.
Noses? I fucking lobe noses. I like all kinds of noses, all styles, shapes, designs and sizes.
>>7707632Where is Fukumoto-san.WHERE FUKUMOTO YOU MOTHERF
>>7702046i think noses are great and they can be really cute too, but i feel they get a bad rep these days cus of the really ugly way tumblrfags/ex-tumblrfags on twitter draw them. and i don't mean the red noses. those are usually bad too but i hate when they give them huge fucking nose bridges and ugly nostrils.>>7707632lots of nice noses here
You can't commission an artist.
Have you ever been able to do that on Skeb?
>>7710538Not the OP but i have commed a japanese artist in Skeb couple years back
