Anyone else tired of art that is well rendered but is meaningless?
>>7906610its more important to determine your actual goal not really to be better than you are nowif what you want to do is Peanuts shit, learning how to accurately draw faces in every possible angle with perfect proportions is just a waste of time even if you could get better at themits only a problem when you need to get better for a specific medium but you choose to allow yourself to stagnate
>>7906531>ai can do that just as goodnot really.
>>7902677>>7902761The duality of man>>7902852Another weird ass problem with the nose is the lack of subsurface scattering. It's avsent in a lot of places so she looks even more like a lifeless blow up doll, but it's especially apparent in the nose area.
>>7902372Well I think that there is no such a thing as meaningless art at all. Even if you paint a random generic grass, well why that grass? You liked it so much so that you thought it would be a nice art. Same with the big boobed anime girl with a slop background. The artist likes it > emotions was put into it > not meaningless
>>7907854this is just imposed meaninga banana taped to a wall has no meaning no matter how many times you try to astroturf
I just wanted to learn how to draw because it seemed like fun but looking at this board, most of you are absolutely miserable about it.
A certain level of misery is to be expected in any craft that one wishes to learn I think, when you run into the limits of your current skill level and realise how far you still are from your goals. The trick is to understand that it's part of the process of improving, and if you've come this far you can go furhter still. This place, or internet in general, just has the unfortunate effect of amplifying the frustration people feel about their inadequacies. The solution is unironically touch grass.
>>7905935They hate drawing for some reason
>>7906031You know what? Yeah, took the words right out of my mouth. I pretend I still try and get better because I'm clinging on to that shred of hope, but in reality it's out of sunk cost fallacy. There are heights some people will just never reach but they still insist on looking up and fantasizing about the view they *could* have if they did.
>>7905935how many people here are thirdties going all in on drawing as their ticket out of poverty? These people have ruined digital art and /ic/ while honest americans like us can only draw for the love of it because it will never be sustainable.
>>7907533im not even a thirdie but this is a shit takeif you can make art that actually means something, no third worlder will be ableto compete with youif all you can do is technically nice drawings, then yea, youre replaceable
I'll start: What ever happened to Brad Rigney?
>>7904482Okay I'll bite philosophically speaking designing things that don't exist is the only thing m artists have on their side that makes them not seem completely worthless to the rest of the societyPaint a malformed portrait where the face proportions are intentionally fucked to represent some mental illness? You're a useless nigger and you should've been euthanizedPaint a semi realistic looking robot made with the fictional intention of gathering space rocks or smth? Ok you're still a useless nigger but now you're atleast tickling the fancy of medium to high IQ people with some money and if you're a man, making money is not an optionAnd thats basically it, being an ARTIST is objectively the most faggot, least manly thing you could be doing, that doesnt change the fact that with the advent of the internet and modern media there was raised a tremendous cohort of young guys with plenty of creative inclinations, and "concept art" as it exists right now or has existed in its golden age is basically the only middle ground a real creative man could occupyYou design things in volume, you give them character through your life's energy, you imbue them with logical purpose, you embelish them with your aesthetic sensibilities, you do all of those things, and with either of these gone suddenly the profession becomes completely meaningless, it is truly a wonderful interweaving of everything that makes the creation process worth going through, most of all, it's challenging and without this, men would be as eager to commit their whole lives to it
eskbl/iniro kinda vanished always hated that she deleted all her old art and the wix
In the mid 2000s I was completely smitten with klar's art. Then one day around 2015 she nuked her deviantart gallery. She still has a rarely updated tumblr and I am still so sad that she stopped doing art completely. Pic is an entry on her tumblr, must have something to do with it, i guess.
Does anyone know what happened to trees/cassetterecorder? Did he die? Make an alt and not tell anyone? Last I remember he was getting overwhelmed with finished his commissions, make a journal about it on his FA, then vanished.
>>7904052whatever happened to DarkArtsKai?
Does your art appeal to the male gaze?https://youtube.com/shorts/PeXkS0QBL3s?si=C-hnMCHTewnUlPsn
>>7906670brother, if you see a wall of text without a nice little scribble on it on /ic/ you 100% have to ignore that shitit's never of value or worth, just a crossboarder nodraw doing the screechy
>>7899378HOLY SHIT NIGGER CUT OFF YOUR DICK ALREADY OR STOP LARPING LIKE YOUR A GUY YOU MEATFLAP ROASTIE! GET IN THE FUCKING KITCHEN!
>>7898436You're a women. Get on your hand and knees and scrub my floor bitch.
>>7906688Trans people are just generally hateful. They tend to brigade threads and boards once certain codewords are being dropped.As expected from a golem that was mainly created to sabotage certain movements from the inside.
Just tell the trannies to kill themselvesIt just works.
Whats the fastest way to keep consistent sprite scale across multiple sprites and backgrounds?
>>7774718I almost started this task but my ocd would not let me begin, because since each thread is a random question and he has no trip, name or common title, I couldn't track down the first threads. I had that thought several years ago. Kinda bummed I didn't start but it warms my heart that he's still going. My favourite ic poster ever
>>7904001hey you are cool as well
Everything looks like shit
i make sutff with lines :3
>>7903565niceu
>think the perspective is off>draw perspective lines and confirm accuracy>think anatomy is off>consult an anatomy chart or a photo reference for accuracy>think values are off>turn image black and white to see what's wrongAre there any methods like this for checking for hue and saturation palette choices? I want to create harmonious palettes scenes that I don't have existing references to color pick from and I have no idea how, I adjust shit with sliders and nothing seems right Pic semi related, an example of a palette that feels almost there but not quite
>>7908084Literally half the book is about this topic.
>>7908097>half the bookNot a quick method like OP said then
>>7908098>retard never read the bookEvery time.
>>7908098there is, you just need to read the fucking book to understand https://www.geotests.net/couleurs/frequences_en.html
>>7907530>>7907696>this kind of game but as a side scroller Yuck anon.
Got shadowbanned on xitter or no reason. Any tips?
>>7904524There literally is a shadowban button. I didn’t work for Tweeter but I did work for 2 other social media companies, both use the same salesforce system an there is a checkbox that throttles your account either by the employee checking it themselves from the AI feedback and then you are to evaluate if you should shadowban the account or not or the AI does the banning itself and then when someone writes in we are ordered not to acknowledge it exists…but it does exist, right there, in the console. This is for every platform I’m sure, especially Twitter.
>>7903680Nobody cares.
>op pretending he doesn't care by page 10 bumping this shite
>>7903680If you had to guess, what would you say the reason is?
>>7903680Proof of shadow ban?
What's the difference between fancy colored pencils and these?
>>7907461The difference between this and something like Prismacolors really is just being able to layer on top. Like in a hypothetical scenario if you do a whole drawing in colored pencil you can only do like one or two once overs before that shit just stops working effectively.However you can avoid the layering issue if your first initial layer is markers/watercolor. You can get an even spread of a very light color and then use these on top. You still wont be able to get that many layers in but if you do the watercolor/marker shit first you can at least avoid having any empty white spots that these pencils inevitably cant cover so you wont need that many layers in the first placeCrayola isnt that bad of a brand if your in a pinch honestly
The literal differences are pretty simple. Colored pencils consist of pigment and a binder. The pigment is the expensive part, the binder determines handling properties. Cheap colored pencils use cheap binder and low quality pigment, meaning it is not archival and has worse handling properties. Crayola in particular is worse than even cheap "artist" colored pencils because they also use all non-toxic ingredients, which results in pigments that are worse and binders with even worse handling than the cheapest student grade pencils, usually a parafin wax.
Thank you for your answersMy other question is how do I draw if I don't have a table? Do you just use a clipboard or something?
>>7908305You have no table whatsoever?Well; a clipboard is one option; another is an easel; another is just a flat board of some sort, and angle it on your lap and against the wall (it'd be better against another table, but you apparently don't have one), some even have a strap on these boards that loops around their neck/back so it doesn't need any separate support (like the wall or table).
>>7908305simplest option is with a hardcover book (or sketchbook) on your lap, paper on top
Let's draw black people so that their lives can finally matter!
poltard bigoted brainrot the thread
>>7909380These are more like coomtards rather than politards, tbqh
>>7909382Nah, these are 1stmost poltards
>>7909459I don't know about the ragebaiting ones but that slaveporn anon's shit is worth saving. I think he's posting in the wrong place though.
>>7909475I'm not talking about anons that actually draw and have something to show. I'm talking about the coping shitposters that like the idea of being able to draw.
How the fuck do you go from left to right?I can't draw like this... where you draw 1 extremely rough vague sketch and do layer after layer of refinement. It feels so wrong to me, like I'm not even drawing, just tracing over and over until it looks better than I could produce on 1 try. Is this how you are supposed to draw?
>>79056441. sketch2. lineart3. line weight
>>7907454>When you go over your sketch your soul is goneDo nodraws really believe this? Seriously? Gosh you should stop drawing then you won't create anything ever. It has to be perfect the first time. If it ain't perfect it ain't art. Fuck off. Go use AI then
>>7905644>Is this how you are supposed to draw?not necessarily, as long as it allows you to produce good results and its fun for you. If I had to make a lot of iterations, that usually means I have very vague idea when I started drawing, and had to build upon scaffoldings of constructions and adding and paring down of different elements that I had to struggle with, there is no guarantee that I'll get a good result at the end and it takes much longer compare to if I had already a solid idea in mind when I started.
>>7905644A sketch gets you 90% there, outline gets you the last 10%. Try sketching a few quick simple geometric shapes, like a circle or a balloon, then add the outline. The issue most people run into is line weight. Sometimes you want the ink line HUGGING the OUTSIDE of the sketch line to help the viewer see the edge of a curve like a shoulder or edge of an arm, and other times you want the ink line DIRECTLY over the CENTER of the sketch line, to help the viewer see texture or small details. Hard to explain. Try tracing over a face, or better, a cartoon you like and notice how line weight and outline affect the way the drawing looks. Try with different sized pens, even comically large ones. This will help you understand when outline should hug the outside of a form vs be used for texture or not be used at all. Sketches should help you feel the form as the artist. Inking should help the viewer know what is most important visually or emotionally.
>>7907474Idk, I think he’s mostly right at least when it comes to digital drawings or simple character drawings in general. You should not be spending 15 fucking minutes sketching out every stiff-ass geometric form while drawing characters. Usually that’s a sign that your perception needs serious sharpening. Go on a run. Fast. Do some math. Sculpt something. Fight someone. You have to force your brain to wake up and remember that forms have definition and movement and how your body relates to them in space. You don’t even have to get it accurate, the point is to be able to capture a certain feeling or visual, and do it before the moment in front of you fades. Then you’ll be able to slowly know what should go where by feel and intuition. We all have our preferences but nothing really compares to a rapper who can freestyle AND write with equal skill. There’s virtue in being on point and not needing your notes as a crutch.
How do I share this drawing among japanese channers?
>>7908093Imagine having two twin pussies to enjoy everytime you wanna fap.
>>7908100imagine they’re both 8 months pregnant the size of their stomachs are just 2 massive balls becoming the silhouette of massive cock
>>7908103we need pixiv artist to draw that.
>>7908036ignoring how attrocious this is, the girls are actually kind of cute
without the support of that one fag these threads will not survive the winter
what do you think of the art section on twitch?
Because whores decided to exploit it you can no longer draw even artistic nudity. So any studies on the human form can result in a suspension if somebody feels like being a dick and reporting you.
My drawing
>>7900151One of the most boring drawings I have seen in a long time.
>>7905646That's a unique perspective
1488 NHH
>>7908287This is straight ass and I'm glad I left that fuckass server. Tho I'd come back for a scoobie snack,
Which books are good if I want to start off with primary focus on basic shapes (spheres, pyramids, tubes, cubes, cones) and practice/build intuition on how to "freely" transform, move, rotate them and attach them to each other? From looking at it Drawabox seems to try basically this. So my question could also be phrased as "Drawabox alternatives", but most people who ask this mean "alternatives that also try to teach drawing to beginners but not necessarily the same approach". And I'd much prefer a book.Based on a bit of research the book "rapid viz" also could be in line with what I am looking for but that is basically impossible to get for a reasonable price where I live (is it even still in print?).Should I just start with a book on perspective like Brehm? I have some trouble understanding how perspective and angles/rotations relate to each other.
>>7905589-Read Perspective Made Easy.-Also look for beginner math books on geometry. This will get you in the right mindset of using shapes as "proofs."-Bonus if you study some technical drafting.-For freehand shape drawing, you are not looking to draw shapes perfectly, but getting close enough without breaking logic. Breaking logic even a little bit will break the shape.-The only shapes and forms you truly need to nail down are circles/spheres, squares/cubes, and ellipse/circles in perspective. Everything else is a derivative of one of those.-Learn how to divide planes into twos and thirds. Learns how to divide spheres into hemispheres. Learn the relationship of ellipses and orientation.-This is a bit unintuitive at first, but start a cube with a circle first. It helps constrain the cube and avoid distortions that are "technically accurate."-Learn how to use top and side view projections. This is the core of technical drafting as practiced by designers, architects, engineers, and the like.A final thought, but this is important enough I want to separate it from the other bullet points, and it's also something people tend to overlook: follow procedure when drawing shapes and forms. Not everyone follows the same procedure, but you need to develop one for yourself. Consistent procedure is what produces consistent results.
>>7905589You don't need a book for that, holy shit. The absolute smooth-brain state of permabegs...
>>7906184>>7907740>>7907773thanks for the advice as well as the topic overview brehs that's a big help
>>7907780> "nobody needs books"I hate adhd riddled zoomerbrains like you so fucking much. kysNext time write "just draw", then at least your comment will have some worth and you won't show everyone how much of a retard schizo you are.
>>7905589Buy a styrofoam/wooden/metal/wire cube/cylinder/prism/pyramid/cone.Draw it. Rotate it. Draw it. Move. Draw it.
