I hate modern internet so fucking much. I can't tell whether this guy is just trolling or just genuinely weird.

You can stuff your brain with new shit for 8 hours straight. It's not possible and anyone saying they can is lying to your face.

In case you aren't trolling:
No, you are suffering burn out. Touch grass.

Stress
Burn out
Depression
In that order

>>7425931
Listen.
Being actually productive and having a results requires a training it's not something that everybody can do and definitely don't expect be able to have exactly top productive day every day.

Find your limit.
-If you really want to actually start doing something then find your limits. 30 seconds ? Great then next time do it for 45. Next day for 60. Training.
Have fun.
-If you are drawing and do only studies you are retard.
Im sorry but this is truth that most begs simply avoid and then they burn out next week. Do study for half of your limit then other half draw whatever you want.
Go outside your comfort zone
-Do i really need to say anything about it ? If you want to improve draw what you are bad with. Of course if you are bad at everything start with basics.

>Do you have a second monitor? does it really help or ruin productivity?
-It doesn't matter if you can't focus you have a different problem.
>Do you have an end goal besides just popularity/money/whatever
-Yes im doing art for myself and for fun im not planning to sell to anybody.
>Do you take supplements/meds to stay mentally healthy/focused?
-I vape but i did before i even started drawing. It doesn't really matter.

>>7425946
i always thought it was just a meme that filters everyone out and i can just bruteforce myself out of it,now im the one getting filtered
so now we are here, whats the possible solution? to not draw/care about art at all for X amount of time?
>>7425939
you mean "cant"?

>>7425931
Get a ton of sleep + a home gym. Don't eat crap and go outside. Keep a consistent schedule, don't stay up too late.
I got the home gym but still gotta fix sleep.

>>7425955
>If you are drawing and do only studies you are retard
this seems to be my problem, thanks fren

>>7425958
yes typpo

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>>7425958
>to not draw/care about art at all for X amount of time?
Yes
Rest is part of growth.
Muscles grow when you are resting. Memories get crystalized when the brain is allowed to rest

>>7425963
Yes it's heavily problematic if you only study because you are not psychically and mentally capable to focus on one thing only. That's why in school even you have different classes and it's not like hey guys we go 8hours of math today. Nobody would be able to handle it and you have at least 10 min breaks.

Study whatever you need for let's say 30 minutes after that go and have fun draw whatever you like for another 30 and then quit don't think about it go play game, go out with friends whatever else. You don't want to burn out that's the worst thing because once you burn out you will be out for at least week or two and that's a time you didn't spend drawing learning.

>>7425959
> Don't eat crap
thx for this one,my diet was absolute shit and i started drinking tons of alcohol lately to cope
>>7425966
>>7425968
thx frens, now i get it

>>7425931
kill yourself

>>7425931
Considering that the art in OP was made by a woman, perhaps that's what you're lacking.

>>7425994
back off

>>7425931
It sounds like you are trying to do too many things at once, or are being pulled in too many directions. This is one of the downsides of the internet and social media. Learning and creating require concentration. When I was little, I could sit quietly in a room with an art instruction book, a piece of paper and a pencil. Nowadays you have 24/7 overstimulation. You have to shut it down or it will destroy you.

How do I stop hating myself for being bad?

>>7425996
This, troon out to improve.

>>7425931
My secret is that I like drawing, that's it.
I don't give a fuck about the results I just enjoy the act of drawing and hours fly by.

>>7426001
You said you're on the verge of doing it. I'm just helping you

>>7425931
Find a hoby that you actually enjoy, you absolute moron.
Are you unironically this stupid? Legit question.

>>7426198
*hobby

>>7425996
>>7425996
source? odanon produces such generically male coom slop i'd have never in my life believed he is a woman

>>7425931
That's something you work yourself up to. Your problem is you're taking in the whole of it, making the idea of starting such a monumental feat your own brain sabotages you because it's hardware is stuck in the hunter gatherer days of task management. Don't be so dire about this, start as small as possible in scope. You can't draw for more than 30 seconds? Then strive for 31, then 32 and so on. All that other shit? Nonexistent as far as you're concerned. You exist only within the framework of being better than you of yesterday. Now work on that 31 soldier.

>>7425931
my process when feeling lazy
>doomscrolling
>hey i should draw even though i dont want to
>force myself to draw/warmup for 20 minutes
>now i am focused and continue drawing
and its that easy! plus nic and za vapes. unironically make me noticeably better at focusing
also helps to do a few minutes of meditation or listening to music before starting. this can also habitually teach your body to focus up for drawing time
most of my issues in productivity come from me having two monitors and youtube being open on one. having a clear separation from leisure and work is helpful
decide you are going to draw. think about why you want to, future outcomes, and what will happen if you dont. be mindful and you will be internally motivated to continue. you also have to think of the effects both leisure and focused work will have on you. the more conscious work you do the better you will be at it, and the more reels you watch will make you worse at focusing on one thing. i think we all kind of know this already but its still hard not to be lazy

>>7425931
I get it—burnout, endless grind, and frustration from feeling stuck. You’re not alone. Here’s what’s worked for me:

>Staying productive:
Don’t aim for 8-12 hours daily if it’s unsustainable. Instead, work in short, focused blocks (25-30 min), then take short breaks. It’s about consistency, not endless hours. Even a few hours of focused effort daily adds up over time.

>Not getting tired of drawing:
I do get tired—everyone does. What helps is balancing tasks: switch between studies, personal projects, and lighter work. If you’re mentally drained, forcing it won’t help. Rest when you need to.

>Staying focused:
Second monitor? It depends. Useful for references, but if it leads to distractions, disable it. Eliminate unnecessary tabs, notifications, or anything else breaking your flow. Start small: focus for 10-15 min, then gradually increase.

>End goal beyond money/popularity:
Yeah—improving skills, finishing projects, and telling stories. Popularity is fleeting; if it’s your only goal, you’ll lose motivation fast. Find something meaningful to aim for.

>Supplements/meds:
I don’t take anything beyond caffeine. Staying mentally healthy comes from a sustainable routine, balance, and knowing when to take breaks. If it’s serious, consider seeking professional help.

>Final thoughts:
Break your goals down. You don’t need to master everything at once. Focus on one or two priorities. Track your progress—even small wins matter. Above all, learn to rest; burnout kills long-term progress. You’re already doing the gym/running thing, so build on that discipline.

Patience is key. Art takes time—don’t expect immediate results. Just keep showing up, one step at a time.

Also OP is a faggot.

>>7425958
Taking a break can help, but it depends on how you do it. If you stop entirely, you risk losing momentum and making it harder to come back. Instead, try shifting your approach—don’t focus on "improving" or hitting specific goals for a while. Just draw for yourself, no pressure. Explore things that genuinely interest you, even if they seem pointless. This keeps you engaged without burning you out further.

If you genuinely can’t draw at all right now, step away for a short period—days, not months—and spend that time consuming art you like, reflecting on what inspires you. Just don’t disconnect completely, or the longer break might turn into quitting altogether.

The key is balance: don’t force it, but don’t let go entirely. You’re stuck in a mental loop right now. Sometimes the solution is to pause, reset your mindset, and come back with a fresh approach. The important part is staying connected to why you wanted to draw in the first place. That reason matters more than brute forcing through burnout.

>>7426216
Some japanese site I remember reading a while ago. Oda Non is a female. She's also in her early 40s, since she said Final Fantasy 5 was her favorite game growing up. The fact that she also stated that her favorite theme was "older/married women put in compromising situations" makes me wonder about the % of self insert she's done in her work.

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>>7425994
-You are black aren't you ? Go back to India saaar's.

>>7425958
>>7426304
I like this anon's advice. I had an unfortunate burnout after forcing myself to draw 2-4hours every day for over a year. This break lasted over a year. I wish I'd have had some baby steps, like drawing just once per week or even a couple times a month. Feels like a lot of wasted time re-learning old things. Find the amount of break you need, but don't go overboard.

>>7426221
Holy shit this. The importance of that small step of actually picking up that pencil/stylus and just starting SOMETHING cannot be understated, it's truly amazing how hard we sometimes work to procrastinate. Some of my longest, most productive drawing sessions started on a day when I truly thought that I hated art and never wanted to draw again. But I just had to suck it up, sit down and just start. That's the true meaning of 'just draw.' It should really be 'just START drawing.'

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>>7425931
> i need to draw 8-12 hours a day EVERYDAY to improooooooooov
You don't. Might even be counter-productive past a certain point and deffinetly some sort of diminishing returns due to exhaustion (provided you are actually learning and not just dicking about)

>but i just cant focus
>already do all that and i cant focus on art for more than 30 seconds
ADHD maybe? Try whatever ADHD questionare is the most accredited/valid and look into ADHD , especially if you score high.
You do seem passionate about this.

>i really cant do anything art related,nothing at all, small steps dont help either
Any other tasks or just art in perticular, maybe some sort of procrastination/fear of failiure/anxeity.
If it's fear of failiure just make some intentionally shit drawings to set the bar low idk.

>Do you have a second monitor? does it really help or ruin productivity?
My graphical tablet is the second monitor. Having a screen tablet is pretty cool.
Does not ruin my productivity in any way.

>Do you have an end goal besides just popularity/money/whatever
Fun and improvement.
If you want money I think you would have a eazier time becoming a doctor at this point when it comes to making money off art.
Drawing takes a lot of time to learn and AI , while it has it's flaws there is no guarantee they won't get fixed in the future and that human artists won't become the equivalent of the guy playing the accordeon next to a donation box.

>Do you take supplements/meds to stay mentally healthy/focused?
Creatine, Protein, not much else.

Also inb4 pyw: [pic rel]

>>7428823
>If it's fear of failure just make some intentionally shit drawings to set the bar low idk.
Not them but this one gets me sometimes. I start to care about a drawing too much in the process because I'm slow, and that makes changes even slower because I'm getting more careful, applying more polish to lines, color fills, etc.
It's very hard to not take things like that.

OP sorry to hear you're so stressed out. Relax. Productivity is an attitude. If you are focused on performing, paradoxically you become paralyzed. Focus on having fun, learning, your favorite muses. When the urge to compare or think about other people's opinion comes, be mindful and see it as a form of training to ignore it. Stress and focusing on time, on people's opinions, on your progress is all psyops. Be in the flow of now. Also consider that 8 to 10 hours a day is either a myth or unrealistic. Even at a professional academy they did not draw more than 4 hours a day. Time is not exchangeable for excellence. But energy is. Someone panic drawing 900 cubes is not going to improve as much as someone consistently and happily drawing as much or as little as they need. Look up the law of reverse effort. The less you try the better you get. I entered the most productive year of my life adopting this attitude, and never had a hiatus since. This is unironically my secret.

>>7425939
oh no, it is quite possible
you just get sick of it really quick like >>7425931
i had such long drawing sessions during summer vacations to prep for entrance exams
i did pass them on the first try, but it wasnt worth it
a decade later and ill scribble something once or twice a year, have no motivation to draw anymore being occupied with adult life
when i have some free time i just sit on the net or watch anime

dont try to make drawing your profession anon, if you want to enjoy it as a hobby

>>7425931
Geezus, chill the fuck out already OP!

Your entire post just screams of you being demanding on yourself and then feeling helpless in the face of your own demands. You were clearly exhausted when you wrote this post. Your mind is focusing too much on what you want to do in the future and using it as an excuse to not do anything right now. YOU NEED A BREAK! Take a day off and rest. Just cause you stop for a few days will not suddenly make all your past effort go poof.

Stop worshiping the "hypothetical future you" that doesn't exist outside your imagination. And scale back on your goals, scaling back on your goals to just one goal doesn't mean you gave up on all the others. You won't even know what you want once you are done with one and you are confused enough already. There is nothing more exhausting on the human mind than constantly being torn between uncertainties on which one feels helpless to act on because then the mind keeps spinning the thoughts about all of them constantly taking up all the background processing power which makes it exhausted.

>Do you have a second monitor? does it really help or ruin productivity?
No I don't. Depends it can distract you by watching shit instead of working or can help you by looking at a reference it can be both.
>Do you have an end goal besides just popularity/money/whatever
No, just doing your projects are enough money/followers will come after that.
>Do you take supplements/meds to stay mentally healthy/focused?
No I never did, I don't even drink coffee. If you feel like you need it visit a fucking doctor and get yourself checked out.

>>7425931

there's wisdom in your intuition torturing you for doubling down on something that isn't paying off nor will pay off with any degree of certainty in the near future

>>7425931
You can choose to do many things badly or mediocre, or eventually one thing really good if you put most of your time into it. You will not make your own game, your own webcomic, learn animation and drawing and become good at all of them. You have to scatch most of the things from your list and focus on the thing you want the most. Drawing a comic and learning to draw goes hand in hand, so you could see it as the same.

>>7425931
I'm in the process of getting checked for ADHD because I'm pissed off that I can't do anything unless it's for someone else or tied to a deadline (even then I leave it to the last second)
Especially if it's something I actually really really want to do

i'm in adhd hyperfocus hell and the only way i can be productive is if i spend the entire day doing one -- and only *one* -- thing: so my drawing sessions are almost indefinitely either 15-min braindead doodles sheets before i get distracted or 10-hr compositions made in one sitting. so i try to plan my schedule ahead in order to have more free days like that, and others where i basically don't draw at all

>>7433799
>>7435487

NOT OP
Any advice on hyperfocusing more often?
Might have ADHD but fuck if I know, looking to get formal Dx.
Still in the process of figuring out where I can even the evaluations.

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>>7425958
Simple as.

>>7439342
Holy shit truthnuke. Saved for my daily motivation

>>7425931
block 4chan on your browser, block every doomscrolling app
you can only 'learn' for 4 hrs a day
or maybe accept that you don't like making art

>>7425931
What happened to Oda Non anyways?

>>7425931
>how do you stay productive? how do you never get tired of drawing? how do you stay focused? how do you keep going? how have you not killed yourself?
Bitch do you drawing is easy? I suffer just as much as you. The secret is simple: just don't give up. Take breaks if you need, but don't give up. Force yourself when needed

>>7439410
Sorry Anon you have just been conned, that picture is a logical fallacy meme for a reason.
Working hard and enjoying yourself is heavily interdependent. To work hard you need to be enjoying what you are working at or else you will not be able to work hard for long your will get frustrated, tired and your productivity will suffer. To enjoy something you need to work hard at it or else you will have no satisfaction and just loose interest at it and find other fun things to do.

Sure you can force yourself to work hard

>>7425931
Been there lol. I never really got better or more consistent. I've stopped drawing for months at a time and have gone through waves of intense productivity and inspiration mixed with suddenly not drawing for months (or even a year at one point). I told myself I had to 'make it' in 3 years or I was worthless and needed to kill myself.
Mental health got a bit better eventually so I didn't kill myself and just kept going as much as I could despite never 'drawing enough'.
I still 'made it', it took closer to 9 years instead of 3 but still managed to make it my full time job eventually. Just keep going, keep having fun drawing too as thats going to push you the furthest with improving. Once you stop having fun you start approaching burn out and thats what's caused me to stop drawing for insanely long periods and hate art at times. If you aren't getting fulfillment out of drawing then you need to take step back and think about things.

>>7439611
health issues, she reactivated her paid site recently