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>>9996096
Why is this here? The one on the left is perfectly fine and in the right one I would only ditch that mismatched shawl.
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>>9995992
agreed. Sometimes it feels that if you're not fat, an ageplayer, wearing a replica or obviously wearing a costume you'll get a pass nowadays...
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>>9996096
I don't like her face because it looks like those stereotypical rich peoples'
"I'm better than you" faces here, but the coords itself are nice. Not ita.
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>>9996117
>stereotypical rich peoples' faces
What? It's classic resting bitch face. She probably needs braces.
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>>9996096
I think she's wearing the veil on the left wrong, that strap is supposed to go under your hair, not under your chin. The coord could use some other tweaks but it's not ita, neither of these are.

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Old feels thread hit the limit.

Post your feels, and don't eat bait.
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>>9996181
Hey, that's pretty nice. Are you also working out, anon?
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Constipated. Parents won't let me go to the con until I take a dump.
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>>9995058
>get kicked in the crotch and dabbed on
How this happen?
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I missed out on a super cute skirt on LM yesterday.
I wanted it but wasn't sure whether I really 'needed' it, so I waited a few hours. Someone else bought it and now I'm sad .-.

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>any interesting meets coming up?
>are you doing anything for Halloween?
>stories and / or drama from your comm?
>thoughts on the state of comms in general?
Feel free to discuss or just vent.
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>>9995296
Yeah I live in a low cost of living state overall, suburban part of town, middle income area, and renting a house here with 2BR1BA is like ~$1000USD/month? Even with a roommate that's still $500 each before accounting for stuff like utilities, groceries, gas, etc... But the argument is dumb to begin with because there could be a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with finances why a parent and adult child still live together. Lots of my friends' parents have chronic illnesses or disabilities that either require or are better managed by having 24/7 care from their child if needed. Not everyone lives somewhere that has a decent market for housing or apartments either.
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>>9995296
In my state houses start at around $1100/mo, small 400sqft studios start at around $600/mo. Rent ain't cheap everywhere anon.
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>>9994940
Was it the girl who posted saying she didn't know what to wear?
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What's the London comm like? Rife with itas, sjws, lolitas at heart etc. or is it pretty chilled? How regular are meetups? any cliqueyness?
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In my comm there will be a brand guest who will hold a fashion show but most girls who want to walk as models have nothing of that brand. One of them even said that she finds the brand ugly before. But now she wants to be a model? A bit fake...

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That 30-year old boomer who is still looking for HL on their dream dress list. Discuss here. Old thread >>9948679
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>>9995932
Thank you sempai
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>>9971734
The blue version of the Rose Cross JSK is on Y!A https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n287488857
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>>9990167
omg nooo how did I miss this?? thanks for thinking of me anon
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>>9994287
Iirc, original Hakuoki anon found the dress a while back!
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>>9995932
aw that's cute, anon
thanks!

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Old thread about to sage: >>9976112

Discuss the state of online lolita communities in general... Or just share your salt about bad RC posts. Remember to block out all names, don't get this banned.
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>>9996166
I'm not saying that if they work hard they instantly go to middle class people with a bit of money to spend. It can take years. But when you work hard and play your cards well there are ways out of being poor unless you're somewhere where the goverment stops you from that, and then you should have whole other issues than fancy dresses...

A lot of people I know and still am friends with ended up doing simple jobs like factory work or construction. But they have a steady income, can save up, and they do live overal happy lives in decent enviroments. They don't life in big fancy houses nor are they anywhere near rich, and they don't have all the luxury others have. But they have stability and the ability to have a hobby or two that cost money, even when they can't go to every fancy event or buy all the newest releases.

Also, venting every now and then isn't the same as whining instead of doing stuff. Everyone vents about the frustrating things in life. It's about the people who coninously complain life isn't fair and that's the only reason they are poor instead of doing something usefull in that time.

I'm not American btw, so I doubt I have an American attitude. I'm just speaking from experience.
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>>9996171
>Do you any of you think there's been a trend towards being less willing to put effort into lolita and learn about it yourself?
I think the trend is more that people who won't look anything up themselves are being spoonfed out of this "you have to be nice and firend with anyone" trend lately, and you're scolled for calling them out because you're the meanie.

>Have expectations for spoonfeeding and that kind of thing increased in recent years, or has it always been this way?
attached to the first point. People are much more focussed on inclusitivity so instead of telling them to do research so they spoonfed to prevent drama.

>Is it an actual change in the community over time, or is it more related to the move to more normie platforms like FB instead of LJ?
It's mordern society in general. Especially Western modern society. You see it anywhere, not just lolita. Heck, a little time ago I saw a campain that people with acne all over there skin had to be found as beautiful as people with perfect skin. Honestly, I feel like all these inclusivity bullshit does is allow people to be lazy and take the easy way out. I would guess maybe because there are way less real problems nearby Western people that they have time to make up bullshit and listen to other peoples' their bullshit.
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>>9996159
This sounds really harsh and I really want to disagree but... yeah. I know a few people who grew up fat because their parents fed them crap and taught them bad habits, and also people who gained weight as a result of medical issues. I don’t think these things make someone inherently lazy or mean they have poor impulse control. HOWEVER everyone I know in these situations who has a good attitude towards bettering themselves in general, managed to change their habits and lost a significant amount of weight. It wasn’t easy but they still did it. The people I know who are unhappy about their weight but haven’t managed to lose any are the ones with bad attitudes, who think they deserve rewards just for showing up, often refuse to take responsibility for their actions (also in other areas of their life) and blame other people or the universe for all of their shortcomings.
Most of the fat girls in my comm have at some point declared that they want to get into sewing and make their own lolita clothing but they all give up at some point. It’s like they’re interested in sewing because it means they wouldn’t have to lose weight to fit brand, but as soon as they realize that becoming a good seamstress takes time and effort too, they drop the idea. It kind of rustles my petti when they call me “lucky” for my sewing skills, as if I was born with them and they didn’t take me many years of hard work to develop. It’s more offensive than when they call me lucky for being skinny enough to fit brand, imo.
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>>9996171
I’ve been involved in the online comms since the mid-2000’s so I guess I count as an oldfag here.
>Do you any of you think there's been a trend towards being less willing to put effort into lolita and learn about it yourself?
>Have expectations for spoonfeeding and that kind of thing increased in recent years, or has it always been this way?
There have always been people who expected to be spoonfed and used EGL and other communities like some kind of personalised Google service. Some commenters would answer their questions, some would point them to the archives, some just got snarky. Repeat offenders could end up on getoffegl. The biggest changes since Ye Olden Times are that there are now many more people interested in lolita, and that information (along with the clothes) is much more easily accessible in various languages. The latter makes it more obvious that the people asking basic questions like “where do I buy lolita clothes” didn’t make even the slightest attempt to look for this information themselves, because googling that phrase brings up dozens of videos, guides, websites, and forum posts with useful information. My local comm even has a detailed FAQ in our native language stickied at the top of the page that explains everything a newbie lolita needs to know. Yet people still prefer to ask the group “where 2 buy loli cloths???” as if we have nothing better to do than to type out all this information again and again and again for everyone who asks. Sometimes they’re offended and accuse us of being unwelcoming when someone points them to the FAQ rather than write out an entire comment, when they’re just being efficient. It’s pretty frustrating.
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>>9996171
>>9996196
cont.
>Is it an actual change in the community over time, or is it more related to the move to more normie platforms like FB instead of LJ?
I do believe the move is part of it. We’ve become more visible and less niche, which means that more “casuals” are becoming aware of our communities. When I started, finding out about lolita fashion as a westerner and joining communities like EGL meant that you had already done a bit of digging and were willing to explore sources in languages other than your own. Lolita content on YT was scarce and all in Japanese, publicly accessible street snaps were also Japanese while westerners primarily posted their pictures in closed LJ groups, and most English-language information was to be found in a livejournal community with an acronym for a name. People had to search and possibly create a LJ account in order to talk to us. Now all they have to do is log into FB and click “ask to join” on a group that’s recommended to them by the website as they scroll through their feed. It’s no mystery why most people who expect be spoonfed are weebs who are already involved in cosplay or other Japanese pop culture communities. Wether it’s FB or IG or Pinterest, social media has made it so much easier for people to randomly stumble upon our fashion with zero research required on their part.

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>Please read the FAQ before posting in the thread (always updating)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PpDyjw2LDxbupdvHMNsBUOBVB66Lzwf44RM1You1GDA/edit?usp=sharing
>Resources
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10uNmynwRn6CRc-OMqCeXmJwCNnEnd-vYi-7AQzSx74I/edit?usp=sharing
>Artist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ESQ-1h4IRUivbGNaxJFxXyDU1lSv26xTmMdH0sDX7sU/edit?usp=sharing
>How to order from Vograce (now with video on how to set up files)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18UxKnpgrmeb82NnW5e4YIEX-eZ3zHt178Mp6i0A5gME/edit?usp=sharing
>Convention List (always WIP)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13o7hD5xS3sDqVptnTVGUlRae3ovEE-vPPST_QOrQwtM/
>IP taketowns (based on artists contribution, may or may not have been a one time thing, use as a guideline)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1696MDhNPhrZ0ySZhXkoJnGxb7l1OjW4JsVhu1wKvaWE
>AA Inspo (thanks anon!)

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>>9996052
I'm compiling my photos, but I don't have high expectations from Fanime's jury process ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>9996097
ah yes, time for another round of "they let THIS artist in??"
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>>9996097
What day does it start?
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I want to make a zine digitally, just with regular printer paper. How well does this usually come out? I assume black and white looks okay but I feel color might come out looking blurry/smudgy in a way?
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>>9996187
I mean, that sounds like something you could easily test out. Just print some images, fold it, staple it and check how it holds up?

Can't go 2 posts without fucking up the thread edition

old thread: >>9930267

do:
>post accounts you follow
>ask for/share advice
>self-post*
>keep it civil

don't:
>act like a retard
>insult other people

*don't self-post if you're going to shit up the thread trying to defend yourself
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>>9995711
Yup
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>>9995546
Can this go in the ita thread? Those mismatched navy ribbon socks and shit tier Amazon shoes belong in the wastebin
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>>9996118
Ita means "so bad it hurts to look at"; this is far from that.
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>>9996118
More nitpick territory for the ita thread, but I agree those socks do not match at all. And then of course you have her IG pod ass patting her.
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>>9996153
Yeah, those tights are so bad it’s hard to look at.

Old thread >>9950592

Thread Guidelines:
- cosplay and lolita welcome
- please list your location and any shipping restrictions you have
- leave contact info you actually check!

General buying and selling tips:
- have feedback ready if you can
- have proof pictures ready
- always ship with tracking
- never do a transaction with someone you're uncomfortable with
- don't name & shame without contacting the buyer or seller first

Introductory tips:

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Before i list it on lacemarket, anyone interested in Lief waltz under the moonlight chandelier jsk in odd mauve, size s/m? I was thinking around $170 shipped to the USA
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https://egl.circlly.com/users/incredibug

BtSSB Sorcerer's Horoscope JSK - $200
AatP Twilight Circus JSK - $105
AP Marionette OTKs - $18
BtSSB Sweet Drops Sandals - $100
AatP Mad Hatter Cardigan - $50
Dear Celine Blouse - $32

Everything is free shipping in the US except for the shoes which will be $15 to ship. Shipping internationally will be between $20-25 just depending on the item. Thanks!
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>>9994296
I definitely can! Unfortunately I'm a little under the weather, so I won't be able to pull them out of storage until tomorrow or Friday, but I'll get back to you then :)
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>>9993139
They recently announced a rerelease on their weibo anon! Keep your eyes peeled!
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Selling Physical Drop nurse set, standard size in white and red- $275 shipped US

https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/us-ship-included-new-physical-drop-nurse-op-set-op-badge-hat-white-standard-size

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larp thread - memories edition
previous thread - >>9957005

what memories do you have of your first ever larp event?
pictures are from the Lorien rusts Gathering events from 1993, when i#t was orignally hosted at the Drum hill scout camp in Derbyshire, UK [prior to moving to its currnet location At Locko park].
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>>9996080
Oops Sorry horse riding armor

Heres some historical photos for inspiration
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>>9995892
the average person is not a decent human being.
And just think about for a second of retarded is the average guy is. Then think about that nearly half of the population is even more retarded
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>>9995377
>A good gambeson
Medieval-market.com decent ones or AD1410 (If you want the real good stuff)
>Maille
This is going to set you back for around 356-500e for a decent one www.capapie.co.uk has good shirts
>Helm
If you can afford it get a custom made one, and if not Marshal Historical has good ones
>Chest protection
Eastern european smiths are your best bet, just remember to confirm that the seller is legit

Last thread died and we didn't have a new one since a while,let's fix this

Old thread: >>9880689


FAQ (Please Read!):
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E0PUag4NzqCCFZ7s2AE_QefWhni2NwvC9sxrRpKeYXk/pub

Taobao Dictionary:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams6Fl3miZSndGZIUnY0eGludFBMYVJpTF8yTWwzTEE

New Store Spreadsheet:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1blGT09mNzgs0qCZFB3a1vwKTpkNtV-uIGaQV6z80UX0/edit

Budgeting Spreadsheet Template:

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where can I get a design replica of these kinds of shoes?
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>>9994307
lol, shit bangs
I'm still not 100% sure what kind of point they're trying to make, but thanks for helping anyways :)
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>>9995764
jesus, thanks so much, my ss is shit
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>>9995900
I've been using Taobao Spree ( although I think it's called SpreeNow now) for awhile now and they are a really good SS, but they are pretty pricy when it comes shipping. But if that isn't an issue, they have great communication english-wise, and respond in a timely manner to any questions.
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>>9996127
I think it's fluffy bangs vs straight/flat bangs, anon. At least from looking at the pictures, that's what it seems like.

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Ask all your Lolita and J-fashion questions here. Refer to the cosplay help thread for cosplay-related questions: >>9982672
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>>9996000
Agree. I never bring up bodyline to potential lolitas. I always mention lace market since I know that if I mention a SS I'll 99.9% of the time lose em
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>>9996002
I didn't shit on basic looks. I also don't think you're a brandwhore, because your opinion sounds really uninformed. I'm not saying this to be mean, but taobao is not one entity and not only "meme prints" whatever that means. I also said specific taobao stores, reputable ones such as infanta, white moon, surface spell...
I'm fine to recommend lacemarket too. I'd just never recommend BL because of it's shady history, and I'd never recommend a brand that has made replicas and sells sex toys on the side to a beginner.
>>9996024
That's true, I've lost a potential lolita by bringing up the dreaded SS. even trying to show someone taobao really blows their mind.
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>>9996039

Maybe take Infanta off your list. I once mentioned that I bought a blouse that was way off than the sizing table on their sales page (the waist was too big and the bust was way smaller than the table said it would be). Some anon replied that Infanta is pretty much boycotted by Chinese lolitas because they had some drama where they sent a customer a blouse with sewing needles still pinned inside it, then she complained on weibo and they pretty much reacted by insulting her. No surprise the blouse measurements were a lie then.

There are actually two Surface Spells, so if you're gonna rec them, be sure to be specific which one you mean, or say "(both)" if you mean both of them. The gothic one is apparently well-known for having very, very slow shipping. I thought I'd accidentally done a preorder and ended up waiting 2-3 months for my dress, but I find out later that apparently this is completely normal waiting time for anything and everything the shopowner sells. Someone even once described "Chasca owes half the Chinese gothic lolita dresses because she didn't send them out." I had to lol at that, she does make very nice dresses but yea it's a long time to wait and newbies should be prepared for that.

At least I haven't heard drama about White Moon, although to be fair, it's been a very long time since I'd heard that name at all. I have a skirt from them, it's not all that great -- the part that wasn't Japanese print cotton was cheap polyblend that wrinkled if you looked at it wrong, but I guess it's not much worse than Bodyline being all.

I’m hesitant to rec taobao (even without the SS issue) mostly because most of the info is on weibo and apparently there’s a lot of drama that Westerners miss out on. If you’re against Bodyline making replicas you’d be against Rose Melody replicating a dead Korean brand too, but the only way I found out is someone who reads chinese actually posts it here.

nayrt, btw.
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>>9995454
>>9996000

I'm not sure if it's just me, but I've always seen bodyline as a supplement to one's lolita wardrobe, a place to hunt down specific coloured shoes to match specific dresses,maybe blouses etc. Not the be all end all option for all budget lolitas to buy full coords and delude themselves into thinking it's just as good as brand, especially in 2018 for fucks sake. Where are newbies still getting the idea that bodyline is a good starting point?

OP, If you want to try out the fashion, at least if you buy secondhand brand you can probably sell it later if you decide the fashion isn't for you. Bodyline stuff is virtually worth nothing, you'll be stuck with a shitty costume tier dress that'll just sit in the back of your wardrobe forever if you decide the fashion isn't your thing. If you want new stuff, just wait for brand sales, some stuff goes dirt cheap and many big brands ship directly overseas too.

For taobao you can get overpriced resellers to avoid the dreaded SS, but the either way the quality is hit or miss and as >>9996002 said, getting a shitty taobao dress has put so many people off the fashion. Maybe I'm a brandwhore too, but it's just not worth it to me when there are so many better options that are not nearly as much hassle.
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So japonica aren't taking new customers, I ordered with them about a year ago and placed an order with them today without realising will they still process it or do they mean no new orders?

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No thread up.

What costume you working on?
Going to OzCC?
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>>9996111
im not using a vpn...
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>>9995913
Pugoffka, she did brown facing for Katara from Avatar and had a bitch fit when people called her out
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Anyone keen for Rah Con, even if it’s small? What are you excited to see? Any good guests going?
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>>9996167
She is literally objectively right.
Also would smash out of/10 wish i had a GF who cosplay as katara.
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>>9996167
And the number of people who cosplayed as Asian characters but don't get called out. Double standard.

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Have we noticed the bs happening with Patreon? If you use it for cosplay/art projects.

Apparently they switched their banking system and some Patrons are coming up as "fraud" payments, and they're getting declined. My one friend lost 1,500 overnight.
I personally lost about 200 ish.

Anyone?
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>>9959856
what i noticed is many of the cosplayers have stopped going to cons and just got on patreon selling Polaroids of themselves in lingerie or less for big bucks.
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>>9959981
I'd read this. I don't suppose you'll drop your handle in the same thread you gave $$$ numbers, so if you want to send me a link I'll look into throwing a couple dollars your way!

> throwawaytheseagull@gmail.com
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On a related note I have a question about what to put behind a paywall on patreon.
I want to start taking notes and writing my process down for each cosplay, because this will help me learn from my mistakes and have my own references for future projects. Would it be okay to compile this information into documents and tutorials that would be available for cheap tiers ($1 or $5)? I understand this information is readily available for free if one researches it but I think my labor of doing my own research, my own trial and error, and then organizing and editing my notes on my process into comprehensive documents is deserving of financial compensation. Arguably as much as erotic cosplay photos at least.
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>>9995540
>is deserving of financial compensation
This just sounds so arrogant... How about thinking the other way around. Would people be willing to pay or not?
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>>9959913
No your pretty much the same. You just have a different high house to climb down.

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Previous thread >>9979844
>Viencon happened: Many events got cancelled, they admitted they dun goofed but people still had fun. It may not have been a huge success, but still a success nonetheless. Viencon 2.0 when?
>Paranoid Anon believes brainwashing and bribes are the only possible explanation for people changing their opinion on something.
>Amsterdam Comic Con also happened: It was quiet, food was overpriced and many people were left disappointed.
>The new CosplayNL banner caused some salty tears.
>Cosplay calender for charity be like "Let's raise 22k so we can donate 2k to this anti-bullying charity that is totally on-board with my idea!"
>Plot twist: said charity wasn't even aware of this plan.
>Anon: "What can I expect from MGC?"
>Convention art bashing.
>Anon: "Someone uses my art for profit, what can I do? Also I don't want to ask them to stop doing so."
>New convention: Tweakers Gaming Live on November 9th-11th in Den Bosch. There is a cosplay compo with a €600 cash price for landing first place!
>Will TomoCon 2019 be at the Theaterhotel?

The five next major events:
>Elfia Arcen (September 22nd & 23rd, Arcen LB): a Fantasy Fair near the Hertog Jan brewery.

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>>9995653
Thanks for the clear explanation Anon. Buying likes for an IG giveaway is pretty sad, especially when it's as obvious as you described. It's weird they still gave her the price despite knowing she cheated. Then again, like contests are all about using other people's reach to advertise your own service so I guess the host already got what they were out for.

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>>9995662
Well it's pretty hard to get the facts straight when people don't release the entire story when they "expose" someone. Misconceptions like these are exactly what happens when one vagueposts. Also >>9995662 I didn't "app" anyone, perhaps you should stop assuming people's identities considering there is a shitload of people on /cgl/.
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I'm used to shooting with some new photographers every con and also somtimes pay for off-con shoots. I got some pics back from a con today and aside from a link to my 8+ well-shot pics from the con they also sent a ko-fi link with the request that if I could spare it, if I'd buy some for them.
I personally like supporting my photographers so I had no problem with it, they were nice to work with and I got nice pics. What do you guys think of something like this? Yes/no/maybe?

This was a non-dutch photographer for reference btw.
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>>9995889
For off-con shoots, paying or at least travel expenses seem reasonable to me. con-shoots, no.
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>>9995889
If you're happy with the pics and their conduct, and everything was handled in a timely manner, why not shoot them a kofi. It's like 3 dollars, a bit of pocket money. That's a steal.
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>>9992262
maybe... just maybe... we're not the target audience?




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