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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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Were there any movements towards the re-establishment of the roman republic?
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>>3280644
its a phrygian cap. its a symbol of republicanism since the french revolutionaries started wearing them to larp as ancient republicans
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>>3279275
>>3277625
this guy too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola_di_Rienzo
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>>3277183
That article is pretty hard to follow
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The republic had a slight resurgence in relevance after the death of Maximinus Thrax and arguably could have re-established there power in the power vacuum after the death of Caligula. The Pretorian guard after always had far more influence however, it was pretty much the Emperors discretion to show deference and respect (Trajan) or disregard (Diocleatan, Domitian)
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>>3281367

it's a bit jumbled and they don't explain what the fuck tribune and senator meant a thousand years after the original republic but i guess i get that the guy was just a loon with a dream

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The Islamic world completely failed to modernize, but why? In the 19th century, it seems there were decent attempts (tanzimat, pic related etc.), but now salafism completely won, and Islam isn't really a religion anymore, it seems closer to formalism.
China also made a terrible entry in modernity, was also colonized, but is now developed and rich.
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>>3282819
China's GDP per capita (11,825$) is slightly higher than that of the OIC (10,850$) but lower than that of the Arab League (14,241$)
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>>3282953
Op wording is retarded
Shouldve said that their society refuse to modernize
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>>3282953
Not built by themselves.
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>>3282863
I'm not saying they do so because it's honourable, I'm saying the history of suicide isn't the same in those countries, and naturally, it influences the results. Few Muslims kill themselves directly, due to fear of hell. Historically, suicide wasn't seen so badly in Asia.
And you're the one talking about anime and Korean cartoons. Japan doesn't produce much now (still there are great movies now and then) but had an amazing movie industry. Korean movie industry is known to be really good. Anime is a generic term : every animated movies in Japan is anime. Ghibli movies are really good, they are anime, what an it?
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>>3283037
I am not understanding. One country created television but all countries use? One country created internet but all countries use?

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Let's have a a good ol' meme thread

Starting with some oc
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>>3281615
This. As a Dutchman, most people don't even know when WWI was.
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>>3263038
do it again Bomber Chirac
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Yo guys, guys.... what if.... bear me with me now... what if.... guys.... what if the Nazis were the good guys after all?
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>>3283027
Its more of the 1st and 2nd coalition since Napoleon did eventually lost
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>>3283042
Ok, nigger.
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>>3283046
ofc. Thanks
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>>3283042
>>3283052
>>3283024
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS
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god i wish that were me

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Post your favorite historical architecture. No modern shit.
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>>3278425
It does look nice.
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>>3280306
I agree. Some of the colours look way too saturated.
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>>3278209
Corbu legit had autism
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>>3278287
Those wedges near the top always trigger me

What was the point of no return /his/? how could they prevent it?
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>>3282684
>what was the point of no return /his/? how could they prevent it?

1204. They had managed to regain a shit load of lost land. 1204 fucked them permanently.
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>>3282684
Greeks and Albanians need to reunite and form Byzantinum
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>>3282930
Albanians? why albanians of all things?
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>>3282830
This
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>>3282997

Because they're trustworthy and reliable allies, and because all the Armenians have been genocided so can't use them.

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Was WW1 the end of "great" melee warfare?
When exactly did it die?
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>>3282846
All technologies that barely changed the tactics used in the war.
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>>3282973
Oh yeah all those shit anon mention were left in the dust nowadays right...
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>>3282973
https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/small-arms-civil-war
>The Civil War witnessed a technological revolution in weaponry.
>Unfortunately for the common soldier, tactics did not advance as quickly as technology. Napoleonic linear tactics from earlier in the century now combined with more accurate, faster-firing weapons to result in catastrophic casualty figures throughout the War.
Manly military chads still needed their dick measuring contests and made the war far more terrible than it should have been.
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>>3282973
>gatling guns and fucking ironclads changed nothing
Ironclads changed the goddamn face of naval conflict, you fucking fartknocker, and the gatling gun was basically the death of any idea of a cavalry charge, something that had been a part of warfare since man could ride a horse and stab things at the sametime.
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>>3282973
this is some convoluted feet-dragging from someone that doesnt want to admit theyre wrong, and Im not even involved in this conversation.

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Did Pachacuti do more good or bad for Chile?
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>>3282939

Why don't you have private property anon? Are you some kind of beta?
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>>3282898
Break up with her asap.
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>>3282990
Nou
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>>3282517
Good
He killed the gommies and make the economy the best in south america
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>>3282704

>This is what the suburban gringo actually believes

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>3277906
You're an idiot though. Napoleon lost because he went autistic in Borodino.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHA HAHAHAHAH AHHHH HAHAHHAAHHHAAHAHH
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>>3281363
Cossacks and the Orthodox Church.
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>>3277266
Well, if he took stalingrad he would have total access to caucas oil, so not THAT retarded.
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>>3281363
*blobs respectfully away from you*

Can a pope be 'a bad pope' to Catholics? Or do they have to follow him or her no matter what?
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>>3283031
Since you're such a sport, I'll give you another false pope who made a false statement while being infallible.

Pope Honorius is used as proof of papal fallibility for he allegedly taught the Monothelite heresy in his letter to Sergius, who was Patriarch of Constantinople. This doctrine said that Jesus had just one will while Catholic doctrine said that Jesus had two, a human and a divine will. Sergius subscribed to the heresy.

Honorius wrote a letter to Sergius which still exists. A second letter exists but only in fragments (page 30, The Church in the Christian Roman Empire, Studies in Comparative Religion, Rev Phillip Hughes, Catholic Truth Society, London, 1964).
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>>3283031
And another!

Pope Vigilius officially taught and supported heresy against the orthodox doctrine that Jesus is fully God and fully man in one person (page 149, Pope Fiction). He is said to have been a fake pope at that time for he deposed a pope and took his place (page 124, Reasons for Hope). The real pope excommunicated Vigilius. We read in Reasons for Hope page 124 that this pope, Silverus, was the only member of the Catholic Church for all the rest had apostatised to Vigilius! Jesus founded an astounding religion if it gets into messes like this! Later, Vigilius was validly elected pope two years following the appalling death of Silverus who was later proclaimed a saint. The election was bizarre. Reasons for Hope says that the electors couldn’t choose another pope because he would go the same way as Silverus so they were forced to elect Vigilius (page 125). What is obvious from this is that they held the election not out of a desire to pick a successor for Silverus but to get rid of the appalling Vigilius but they found it wasn’t possible because of political blackmail so they were forced to elect Vigilius. Another thing that is obvious is that the election contradicts the Catholic doctrine that if force happens the election is invalid but still they consider Vigilius a true pope probably because the Church accepted him at the time.
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>>3283034
>maybe not them
If not them then you're not talking about catholic popes, so it doesn't matter.
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>>3283031
And another!

Pope Leo X who died in 1521 stated that all papal bulls were infallible (page 271, Handbook to the Controversy with Rome, Vol 1). He obviously intended this to be an infallible statement for the whole Church for that is what you mean when you call something infallible. Even the most rigid Roman Catholic would say Leo was wrong so why is he not listed as a heretic then?
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>>3283045
>Anything to keep the lie going. Even though dozens of popes were excommunicated, and even though anti-popes populate the "unbroken chain of apostolic succession".

kek

What losers you papists are. Seriously.

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Has he finally lost it?
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>>3279392
>tfw Lindy keeps talking shit about France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CApiU7kvgB8&t=165s
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>>3279392

Implying he ever had it.
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>>3279563
>>3279546

The sad fact is that 4chan's "autistic" has nothing to do with mental disease. It's just a substitute for nerd.

Since this website is populated with turbo-dork weenies looking for an excuse to call other people names without sounding like their own oppressors, they've dogpiled on this trendy new word. They're clueless. It's the most autistic thing I've ever seen.
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>>3282155
What an autistic retard
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>>3282807

The north judging by his accent. Probably Sheffield or some such.

Where can I find some info on armour used in the Byzantine empire.

Basically covering the entire span of its history.
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>Basically covering the entire span of its history.
That's 1000 years anon, you're not getting all that information in one book
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>>3282993
>>3282993
>Basically covering the entire span of its history.
You're going to have to narrow it down. Byzantium lasted longer than the Roman Empire, the early Byzantine army (basically the same as the late Roman army) is almost totally unrecognizable as the highly mobile themata, and kept evolving all the way up to 1453.
Maybe check out the wiki page for a quick rundown and work your way out from there?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_army
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>>3283002
I'd love to learn a bit more about their usage of lamellar armour.

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Da Romans didn't have toilet paper.

They had a stick with a rag or a sponge at the end.

Can you imagine what that stick smelled like? Haha.
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>>3282866
Better than clean your ass with your hands pajeet
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>>3282866
Mods are really crushin it today
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>>3282866
i hate this fucking board
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>>3282866
You missed the worst part.
The sponge stick was communal.

Were knights in eastern europe a thing?
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this may be the defining factor between west and east knights. how much of it was upheld in the western sphere is up to debate. did the east have anything comparable?
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>>3274509
The Mongols fought the polish/hungarian knights and decimated them the first time. They got better tho about 70 years later, the reverse happened.
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>>3281545
What you call "central" europe is the west of eastern europe. Central europe is Germany.
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>>3279283
>>3279343
very interesting, was anything similar done in the west?
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>>3281545
Bullshit. Both were strictly in "western" aka catholic sphere. Medieval Eastern Europe is meme.



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