[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vr / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip / qa] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / asp / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / wsg / wsr / x] [Settings] [Home]
Board
Settings Home
/his/ - History & Humanities


Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
06/20/16New 4chan Banner Contest with a chance to win a 4chan Pass! See the contest page for details.
[Hide] [Show All]


Meta on /qa/ only.
All meta discussion of boards is to be redirected to /qa/.

[Catalog] [Archive]

File: Herodotus.jpg (2.58 MB, 1739x2100)
2.58 MB
2.58 MB JPG
This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.

File: 9780312076771-uk.jpg (33 KB, 300x500)
33 KB
33 KB JPG
63 replies and 17 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
File: china pollution.jpg (76 KB, 720x854)
76 KB
76 KB JPG
>>3836788
American butthurt over China is so tasty

>GONNA BURST ANY MINUTE NOW
>*sweats profusely*
>THEY'LL COLLAPSE SOON GUYS
>>
>>3838267
It's a shame these books are so hard to come by now, the ones I do find based around failed predictions are pretty interesting
>>
>>3838401

Business partners. China is the second greater owner of the USA debt because they need a strong American market and a strong dollar if they want to keep a high level of export, in which china economy heavilly depends. China is highly dependent on USA market, so they pose no threath. The BRI are meant to make China less dependent on USA, but I highly boubt that it will be succesfull.
>>
>>3838278
No, seriously, you entirely missed the point in what I can only assume is a lack of 3rd grade reading comprehension.

Let's start from the beginning. >>3836156 posts Fukuyama as an example of a "hilariously wrong prediction". >>3836162 then says that the book is essentially correct, namely its premise that Liberal Democracy "won" and the macrohsitorical trend will be one of unbroken democratic rule, aside from a few irrelevant shitpiles. >>3836614 Points out major places like China and Singapore as not democracies, hence putting the quotes around it. Then you, in post >>3838139 put a stupid face on the notion of China as a democracy, MISSING THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT, namely that China's lack of democracy is a rather salient point against Fukuyama.

So yes, you missed the point. You are dumb and you should feel bad.
>>
>>3838868

Sorry for the few grammatical errors. I'm not anglophone and my phone's autocorrect is not setted on english

File: tmp872692200582938624.jpg (480 KB, 606x435)
480 KB
480 KB JPG
Stop.
Wake up as Nicholas II of Russia in 1910.
Fix this and continue your rightful imperial rule as the Third Rome.
52 replies and 7 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3838687
No, he constantly posts one of his ancestors who's blacker than fucking Obama
>>
Assassinate 10 yo Hitler
>>
>>3838146
I was about to say

>>3838277
Yeah they did fight two wars for serbs around then

>>3838339
Fuck you the pope is the heretic traitor here. Unless you want a pope that sucks outlander toes.

>>3838355
Sad!
>>
>>3838685
>>3838673
Since I want to I'll provide the situations in which what could've caused Trade unions to be adopted in the eyes of the labourer:
>When the labourers arrived, they typically worked up to 16 or 17 hours a day, sleeping with the cattle by night. Disease and industrial injury were both prevalent, these workers can hardly have enjoyed either their journey or their work.
>Trade unions were banned, until the government was forced to concede on this issue in March 1906.
>Some sections of the government took the view that official intervention on behalf of workers was desirable, in the interests of social stability.
>Factory owners would delay the wages of the workers to prolong their stay in the industry
Gatrell, P. (1986). The tsarist economy 1850-1917. London: Batsford, p. 91, 95
>>
>>3838335
France only joined the war because Germany and Russia mobilised.
If Russia never gets involved, the conflict remains solely between Serbia and Austria

File: 1491581973007.jpg (10 KB, 263x264)
10 KB
10 KB JPG
>>
>

File: IMG_6332.jpg (193 KB, 1600x890)
193 KB
193 KB JPG
>congolese people literally worship leopold
109 replies and 15 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3829784
blacks were always keen to subordination
>>
File: 1440351947980.jpg (172 KB, 400x506)
172 KB
172 KB JPG
All this stuff showing Leopold as some mass murderer is Anglo propaganda.
>>
>>3832380
>Chinese guy shits on the Congolese somehow turns to Chinese guy shits on all of Africa thanks to you faggots
>>
>>3833369
>>3833375
Stop the presses, that oddly flat face and particularly coiled hair, is that a Khoisan person? Did the Congo use to have Khoisan people?
>>
>>3838799
>OP says "not Congo"
>your post
>yfw

File: IMG_3500.jpg (146 KB, 779x1024)
146 KB
146 KB JPG
Post your favorite paintings
92 replies and 77 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
File: okeeffenewyorkatnight.jpg (232 KB, 489x1024)
232 KB
232 KB JPG
When it comes to modern art I actually prefer American stuff (prior to Ab-Ex becoming a thing). In drawing comparisons to contemporaneous European styles, I feel as if shit like Suprematism and Furturism and all of these other weird subsets of expressionistic art are all dog shit. Cubism is cool though.
>>
based romanticism
>>
>>3832006
>Jean de Arc
what
>>
File: 1509988655184.jpg (251 KB, 2500x1661)
251 KB
251 KB JPG
>>3832000
>>
File: Mathis_Grünewald_058.jpg (1.92 MB, 3427x4421)
1.92 MB
1.92 MB JPG
>Page 9
Shameful

File: vic.jpg (11 KB, 306x204)
11 KB
11 KB JPG
When talking about the "victims of communism", why does it never occur to people that the victims may have completely deserved it? Weird how nobody under communism ever committed crimes, according to anti-communist propagandists - every single person was an innocent victim, even the human traffickers and heroin dealers.
47 replies and 11 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3838150
You prove that some amerimutt agencies are more reliable than actual election results here in EE. I'll wait.
>>
File: commietards.jpg (650 KB, 2000x984)
650 KB
650 KB JPG
>>3838872
>make a post basically announcing what a edgy little cunt you are
>get called out
>"n-no take me and muh stupid meme ideology I dont even understand seriously!"

lol
>>
>>3838880
If you want to back out of discussion you're losing via some LOL's and ad hominems, I'm not going to stop you.

On a side note, that's all that was coming from you: ad hominems. I was merely calling it out, as well as your enraged hysteria. Guess it makes me edgy. Ok
>>
>>3838866
>false convictions is arbitrary
No, its not.
>the only objective measure is prisoners per capita
if we're starting from your above assumption, then it turns out that US citizens simply commit more crimes, not that they're being imprisoned as part of a terror campaign
>correlates with the mortality rate of an unindustrialized backwater of russian society
Strange how the Katorgas enjoyed a lower mortality rate than the gulags, then.....
>>
File: 1511282814304.jpg (1.47 MB, 4460x2908)
1.47 MB
1.47 MB JPG
>>3838891
Im not losing the argument. You didnt even make one, you just came here like the attention deprived child you are and posted a le epic troll post, and now that Im treating you like the child you are, you are throwing a temper tantrum and demanding you be treated like a big boy. Heres a tip, stop being a clown person and maybe people will stop treating you like a buffoon

File: GettyImages-804435102.jpg (380 KB, 960x600)
380 KB
380 KB JPG
Did this thing actually exist? If so, then what happened to it?
12 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3836236
Yep. Tick tock, Deutschland. Pay up.
>>
>>3834754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTDfxAgU9lg
>>
>>3834829
>greece yuo are genious!
>>
File: Rename.png (416 KB, 1280x800)
416 KB
416 KB PNG
Well, ladies, open notepad!

Sure is a tough flight in this weather.
>>
>>3834829
1: they've been planning to build it and are way overdue
2: denbntnsn
3: they can't decided what to build in case someone peeks at crotch
t. Sotiris

Why do people claim that the USA wouldn't have been able to single-handedly defeat either the USSR or the Nazis in WW2, 1 on 1?

USA out-produced both of them easily, were much more technology advanced (overall - both Germs/USSR used horses regularly)

I don't see how anyone can justify saying USA would've lost to one of them, even if you believe the retarded stormfag propaganda of master-race shit.

>pic semi-related
20 replies and 4 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3838659

YOU want the Americans to invade across the entire breadth of the Atlantic ocean. Since there are 0 planes that can cover that distance in flight, you'll need to cover your entire force with CVP. This of course runs you up against the limitation of what your carriers can carry. http://www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm An Essex class carrier can sport 91 (tiny) planes, with a usual complement of 1/3 fighters and 2/3 bombers of various stripes. The daily fighter strength of the Luftwaffe in June of 1944 was just under 1,500. http://don-caldwell.we.bs/jg26/thtrlosses.htm . If you're assuming 30 fighters to an Essex, you need 50 of the damn things to match what the Germans can project from the land, and even the Americans never turned out that many carriers. This of course gives you air PARITY, not the overwhelming supremacy that the Allies historically enjoyed and is necessary for facing that kind of disadvantage from jumping off the boats. It's also overlooking that without a base in Britain to launch from, you don't have the air campaign, no battle of the Ruhr, and thus not all those losses, which you'll note from looking at the link meant that the entire Luftwaffe day fighter force was destroyed and replaced roughly every 2 months starting September 1943. If you assume all of those lost fighters are added to the day strength, you have just north of 11,000 Luftwaffe fighters standing ready to resist invasion, which means you need 367 Essex carriers to match them.

This is, to anyone with a lick of sense, impossible. Your premise is not supported by evidence.

>WWII.
That's not citing anything. CITE your shit.

>The U.S. was involved long before Pearl Harbor and in this hypothetical, the U.S. is the only remaining power that will stand up to the Nazis/Soviets.
But they were not willing to actually fight, just sell (and later give) stuff to people who were. That doesn't speak well for unlimited commitment, no matter the cost.

3/3 Fin
>>
>>3838674
>The 70-80% figure given is for war materiel
And you have not actually supported it. Please demonstrate how the U.S. produced 70-80% of the war material while having only about 47% of the combined GDP. Please demonstrate why they have in fact roughly that level of proportion to the Allied total when it comes to important benchmarks like ammunition.

>Now that you've started you can look up the definition for that and seek out the data on its production.
I have a better idea. You make a stupid claim, you back it up. I am going to say that no such evidence exists, and that in no figure I've ever looked at do the Americans come to 70% of Allied production of anything, let alone war material of an aggregate.
>>
>>3838719
>>3838659
I just want to add in one other thing about the ports. In each of the invasions you mentioned, the Americans/Allies had a friendly port nearby, in places like England, Tunisia,and later Italy itself, to stockpile supplies in. They didn't directly ship in all the stuff to support D-Day in one go from the U.S., they built up in England for well over a year. Without a friendly port to stockpile in to use as a launchpad, you have to do all of this in one go form somewhere on the East Coast, which is orders of magnitude harder.
>>
>>3838719
>>3838722
>>3838725
>Being this autistic
>>
File: 1290808961098.png (316 KB, 722x1745)
316 KB
316 KB PNG
>>3838674
The USA did have an overwhelming lead in naval production. For all other areas during 1942-45 however, the highest share they had among the UK and USSR was machine guns, which was only 56%. Note that it's only the UK and USSR, not the Empire and other allied countries.

File: 1513212560220[1].jpg (38 KB, 640x640)
38 KB
38 KB JPG
Can someone explain to me how people were just wakling around in suits all day? I tried wearing one and I got super hot really fast. Did they wear thsi shit in the summer?
65 replies and 11 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3832016
>implying kids know who Cary Grant is
>>
People smelled a lot more before but you can't tell on the picture.
>>
>>3836085
I want to hurt these creatures anon, how do I justify it
>>
>>3835603
Seems to be true from the very limited sample size I've seen so far. I'm a burger but currently visiting Vienna. Most adults look quite dapper.
>>
>>3830148
God, I hate modern suits.

File: IMG_3253.jpg (168 KB, 640x1073)
168 KB
168 KB JPG
Did this really happen?
56 replies and 9 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3837142
Even if it was a camp photo, it wouldn't be evidence that the camps were nice places. There is no reason why, for example, a bunch of prisoners who had just arrived by train from Hungary would have been emaciated.
>>
>>3836767
>>3837031
>>3837036
>>3837043
>>3837050

>we'll never get pregnancy fetish pulp fiction comics where a nine month pregnant Anne Frank gets rescued by a Marlboro Man-looking cowboy drawn by Mort Kunstler himself

Just fucking kill me now
>>
>>3836273
>it is quite possible that man genuinely believes that it did. Memory is a very fickle thing.
This. It's pretty easy to see who that rumor could get started. The people there knew the camp had a zoo, and a bear, and they knew fellow prisoners were being killed. It probably wouldn't take long for people to start conjecturing and spreading rumors that some prisoners were being fed to the animals. Sixty or seventy years later, they remember it explicitly happening, because memory is an incredibly easy thing to have manipulated.

The same thing happens with every conflict and disaster. It's why oral histories are always treated with scrutiny.
>>
>>3837509
https://youtu.be/MSFUZr9IBuo
>>
>>3837596
That's literally one of the points raised there, dude. The source calls Holocaust deniers out on their denial.

did this actually exist?

were david and solomon real?
3 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3838709
>>3838730

but these existed right?
>>
>>3838744
The United Monarchy is recognized by the vast majority of archeologists and Near East historians
>>
>>3838703
Unified monarchy? Nope.

Contemporary civilizations failed to record any meme Heeb empire in the Levant. To them it was an area filled with Kingdoms whose writ extended only to the nearest hill.
>>
>>3838744
Yes. Israel was always the bigger and more powerful kindgom. Judah was sort of a backwater, and Jerusalem was a tiny, irrelevant city during the supposed time of David.

>>3838758
Most of that is because of tradition (ie, taking the Bible's word for granted), and a lack of acknowledging recent advances in archaeology. The more you look into the archaeology of this period, the clearer that becomes; that's not really an issue specific to Israel, though. Most of the world of classics and near eastern studies suffers from major splits with archaeology that uses more modern methods. Pretty much everything relating to this period is hotly contested, though.
>>
did THIS exist?

File: serveimage.jpg (292 KB, 1051x1600)
292 KB
292 KB JPG
Stop roleplaying as successors of Greece and Rome.
>>
Is dat sum Oswald Spengler?
>>
>>3838025
>some G*rman gonna tell me about my birthright
Inferiority complex hit this egg hard
>>
File: index.jpg (10 KB, 239x211)
10 KB
10 KB JPG
Stop wearing glasses

Start growing rice

Why do people think the Tarim mummies are "Nordic Aryans" or some shit? This one for example looks clearly part Asian, just look at the cheekbones. They were already mixed just like their modern descendants in Xinjiang (Uyghur people).
193 replies and 49 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
File: pca2-mathieson.png (1.08 MB, 1798x2363)
1.08 MB
1.08 MB PNG
>>3838870
>>
>>3838873
>>
File: mathieson PCA.jpg (116 KB, 1200x630)
116 KB
116 KB JPG
>>3838874
>>
>>3838877
>>
>>3838881

let's talk ballet. Any productions you're looking forward to in the 2018 season? Planning to see any live in cinema screenings?

Did you see The Nutcracker this year? Have you ever seen it live? Any favorite recordings?
112 replies and 33 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>3835669
isn't it recommended for football players?
>>
>>3835846
Some coaches recommended it, yeah! It greatly improves flexibility, strength, endurance, balance, among other things. And it hyper-focuses them moreso than standard football training, so players who take lessons may actually be at an advantage in certain areas.
>>
Working on a book chart for ballet, if anyone's interested! There's a lot of good stuff out there.
>>
>>3837464
This is probably a dumb question but as I'm working on this chart, there's just a lot of books I want to add to the point that it's overwhelming and no longer a helpful chart .How do people narrow down choices?
>>
What's the best ballet to see for the first time?



Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.