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>Something bad happens
God willed it.
>Something good happens
God willed it
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>>18581895
jesus (your jesus) also commanded you to kill little babies, to stab them with the sharp-and-pointy edge of the sword. This visceral image was placed in my mind by a God that tells you not to spare even the animals; the innocent donkeys grazing on grass. Are you familiar with the patristic literature, or what a theophany is?

These genocidal tendencies, of course, manifest themselves in your chosen people (I say your, because you give off the vibes of a dispensationalist dumb uneducated american) when they commit inhuman and barbaric acts, and justify them via the Bible.
You don't seem well-versed in christianity, to even argue anything with me. You have never questioned your beliefs, or the foundations they stand upon.
I can't blame the atheists for constantly humiliating you people on this board, and calling you parasites. "Christians" are good people, but you are an embarrassment to your religion and all theists. Making us appear retarded.
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>>18581933
>jesus (your jesus) also commanded you to kill little babies, to stab them with the sharp-and-pointy edge of the sword.
no he didn't you lying paki bastard. that's all you cunts do. Lie and rape and subvert civilisation.
>These genocidal tendencies, of course, manifest themselves in your chosen people (I say your, because you give off the vibes of a dispensationalist dumb uneducated american) when they commit inhuman and barbaric acts, and justify them via the Bible.
The New Testament does no such thing and the NT supercedes the OT.
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>>18581947
I know it's hard on the mushrikeen, when you're confronted with the truth. Go ahead and pose this question to your preacher, when you're on your knees, doll. Make him squirm like you.
God infact says,
>The truth has come, falsehood has disappeared. By its nature, falsehood is bound to disappear (quran 17:81)

>supercedes
Oh lawd, that's irrelevant. You can't even conceive of the fact that your God could command it.
This, i present to the thread is the indoctrination of the Christian man.
If his God is by nature good, as it is articulated in his literature. Within his paradigm, the act itself is good at some point in time. So as a christian boy, murdering babies is good, if my 'heart is hardened'. Is that what you'll say? How pathetic and infantile.

Go away now, I'm done with you. Keep your self-righteous bible thumping to yourself. And stop making theists look as uneducated and idiotic as yourself, infront of these beautiful and intelligent atheists.
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the religion that appeals the most to smelly, brown inbred rapist pakis who can never honestly defend what they own paedo prophet actually represented.

Christians follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Muslims follow the teachings of a murderer and bandit who robbed and enslaved and murdered people and bragged about it and married a 9 year old.

You're fucking scum and i spit on your prophet you paki cunt. Hope you and your inbred family die in a fire today or of one of your many congenital defects. Fuck Mohammed!
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And like Saint Mcdonalds says, I'm loving it. The seethe.

This kind of hateful rhetoric is beneath me, it corrupts my soul, distances me from the light of God. So I'll make the apology instead, I don't mean to insult any christians or hurt their sentiments. Yet they act as confrontational bad-faith actors, that consider disagreement in belief as inherently demonic.
and as the gospel of Matthew says, "by their fruits you shall know them".

Is Buddhism the most slave tier religion? My understanding of it is that the goal of Buddhism is non existence. Like no wonder Asians have had a history of being crushed under the feet of tyrannical regimes, it seems like they all just want to die.
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>>18581410
Buddhism is all about the middle way. They are not annihilationists nor extreme pacifists.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.072.than.html
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>>18581482
That's nonsense.
>>18581485
Yeah, but what happens after you die according to them?
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>>18581518
"Freed from the classification of consciousness, Vaccha, the Tathagata is deep, boundless, hard to fathom, like the sea. 'Reappears' doesn't apply. 'Does not reappear' doesn't apply. 'Both does & does not reappear' doesn't apply. 'Neither reappears nor does not reappear' doesn't apply."
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>He desires to be free of desire
Lmao I am so intelligent
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>>18581410
China is hostile to religion and they get defeated easily

Was it necessary to do what he did to his own son? Frederick Wilhelm I mean

>Have a 100-150 year head start on predominant Western powers
>Do nothing with it
>Lose
What did they mean by this...?

>I ... I.... I.... I.... Mmm mmm m
Kek fucking retard
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>>18581943
>Projecting
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>>18581945
See >>18581904
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>>18581951
Anyone could have done a better job that Alb-b-b-bert
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>>18581958
>no video
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>>18581960
>Dox yourself!!!
Kys fag

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Show yourself to the door and go to America.
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I literally can't argue with that line of reasoning beyond, "But look at all the good we brought to Europe."

...j-just ignore the endless wars, disease and famine and we're solid
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>>18581889
We should return Iberia to the Basque instead of the nafri shifted Spanish and Moortuguese.
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>>18581889
>a bunch of brown Muzzies

I knew the HB1s had a reason for this psyop.
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Even though basque is not IE language, Basques have more IE dna.
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>helped Spain become a proper nation-state
>helped France and Visigothic Spain to invade the Muslims
>showed our Indo-European ancestors the secret mountain passes to invade Hispania
>intermarried with our Indo-European ancestors, adopted their Gods, fought in their wars as mountaineers
>only preserved their language through their remote location, their ethnic brethren all assimilated
>got a ton of IE DNA through intermarriage
>thousands of years later
>HUR DUR YOU ARE NOT ONE OF US, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT HAPLOGROUP AND SPEAK A PRE-ARYAN LANGUAGE
Our ancestors would slap their head, when hearing these stupid arguments. If Basques were good enough for our ancestors, they are good enough for us now.

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Judaism with Noahides?
Luciferianism?
New Age?
Gnosticism?
Something else?
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>>18579767
This with a coating of marxism so it's palatable for retards like >>18579817
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>>18581917
North Korea? Cult of personality is the proper term
Sparta was cult of personality meets eleusinian mysteries rituals
So Sparta is likely closer to what we have today since pop star cults get pretty freaky when you dive deeper into them

Like taking mushrooms when new albums release and gathering in Discord servers to partake in bizarre rituals
Speaking of which, Ariana's new album drops July 30th 9PM PST / July 31st 12AM EST on a Friday (Witch's Sabbath)

It all adds up
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>>18579858
None of these are religions since they mostly lack spiritual dimensions and ethics and totally lack ritual and tradition. At best, they are superstitions, but mostly they are desperate attempts at self-affirmation.

The problem is that religion today has very little appeal because 1. what used to be explained by the supernatural is now explainable by science. 2. most people become aware of other religions very quickly, so it becomes obvious that these are ideas created by people. The only large groups of people who mostly remain strongly religious are those who grow up isolated and with little education. So things will trend towards secularism, unless there is a reversal in that, or if someone comes up with a religious narrative competible with science that educated people start accepting globally, and it trickles down to the average person,
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>>18581936
>since they mostly lack spiritual dimensions and ethics and totally lack ritual and tradition
Lets take maga
Your use of the word spiritual may reduce religion to only a very few candidates and say, eliminate buddhism for example. If you include buddhism, then you'll have to agree that to some degree the maga mythology implies some sort of shadow unnamed government that moves world affairs not unlike how salomon uses invisible demons to build his palace. They use images like that of the woke mind virus, ideas of an america they can't define, patriotism and the such, all the spooks you see in religions... You are biased towards 1000 year old religions which with time of course misinterpreted their original very literal texts with the metaphysics of their time. Satan was a very shady concept in the time of jeesus
As for the lack of ritual and tradition see above why. It's not old enough to hold customs but you still have rudimentary repeat rituals of complaining about fuckall
The reason I hold them to be a religion is because that religion guy on youtube said Swifties could be a novel form of religion
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>>18581953
Swifties fall in line with this >>18581899 >>18581921

To most people, it's just pop music being pumped into shopping malls and grocery stores
Yet when you break down the pop world it becomes a pantheon of human Goddesses being worshiped
Visit /mu/ and find the /wpop/ thread
It's modern Goddess worship with pantheonic boundaries

>Digitally connect with other cultists
>Focus your energy on one person
>Take drugs en mass at the same time
>Listen to the same exact music at the same time
>Worship while high and the music is playing
>Giving praise to the Goddess while this is happening
>Fellowship with each other online after performing the ritual

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I saw a tweet once saying "making fun of a rape victim is funnier than making fun of Jeff Bezos" and it made me think.
When people make fun of Jeff Bezos they don't go: "haha, he's rich and powerful, haha" because that would make no sense. They attack his facial features, baldness and other characteristics outside of his control, thereby reinforcing the notion that ugliness is bad. At best they'll go for his awkward social skills, which is also kinda mean and has the energy of picking on an autistic kid.
But in any case, the only way you can be funny when mocking a person more powerful than yourself is by locating the ways in which they are inferior to you, and this always boils down to mocking physical appearance and reproducing problematic, eugenic beauty standards which hurt a prole more than they do a rich man. Mocking rich people for being bald doesn't hurt them, but will hurt your bald coworker.
So, mocking a rape victim is more intellectually honest than mocking Jeff Bezos, because it gets to the core of what "humor" is actually about: it's reactionary, fascist and sociopathic at its core. This is also the number one reason why the left is so bad at making memes and why their humor often feels like right-wing humor but with a silencer.
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>>18580199
This
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>>18580271
>Making fun of people isn't nice
I mean yeah?
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>>18580179
>I saw a tweet once saying "making fun of a rape victim is funnier than making fun of Jeff Bezos"
It turned out that Jeff Bezos probably created Amazon and backed Trump because he enjoys Adult Diaper content.

I think we can make fun of that.
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>>18580704
>he enjoys Adult Diaper content
is that a circumlocution for "he's a shiteater"?
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>>18581840
Nah, he's been paying people to wear diapers in front of cameras for a good while now.

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Why do Christian Zionists think pre-Islamic Iran was some kind of pro-Christian society when in reality they were far more brutal and aggressive towards Christians than any Roman pagan ever was?
Do they actually anything about Zoroastrianism beyond the misconception that it’s “the first monotheist religion”? Zoroastrianism is indeed a fascinating religion, but to describe historical Zoroastrianism as monotheist is laughably wrong.
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Poor miaphysites, they got fucked over by the romans for not being chalcedonian and the persians for having "roman sympathies"
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>>18581254
dumbest and most arbitrary heresy award
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>>18580860
>This one is by far the stupidest takes.
>Atenism is the first monotheistic cult.
you switched those two statements around. atenism wasn't monotheistic.
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>>18580856
Ironically though, Christianity was the fastest growing religion in Sassanid Persia and they would have become Christian in another century should they have survived. All of Iraq and the northern Caspian regions of Iran had effectively become Christian majority by the time Islam rose. That's excluding the Manichean semi majority in Central Asia. Zoroastrianism was on a major decline as it was a theologically weak religion and the only reason it survived to this day was being surrounded by dirty jeets. Infact Hinduism was on the way out as well, if the bongs hadn't conquered India, Islam would have become the majority there too as the Muslim princely states centralized. Paganism is very weak against organized religions.
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Incest, protocommunism and dualism is noy fascinating.

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Are the Germans ever going to live it down? Or will they be mainly known as the villains of that one big war for the next 1000 years?
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>>18580586
>second deadliest on the Americas.

What’s number one?
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>>18580586
>there have been very few states as deranged as Nazi Germany in history, given they attacked all their neighbors without real justification and then proceeded to fight long after they had lost and until they were destroyed.
That's basically Tuesday for the average Middle Eastern tinpot shithole, which is basically what Nazi Germany was but for white people. Ultimately what Hitler wanted was for Europe to become a white version of the Middle East with constant infighting and the USA and USSR continuing to fund terror groups for their respective influence long after the war was over
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germshits always get raped by Poles
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>>18581497
The American Civil War by my recollection.

>>18581514
>That's basically Tuesday for the average Middle Eastern tinpot shithole
Not even close.
Saddam only invaded Kuwait because he thought the U.S. gave the go-ahead. He then sat on his ass for 12 years before getting knocked off.
Middle Eastern tinpot dictators ironically have better survival skills than the Nazis.
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>>18576424
Children under 5 are already 50% non German. It's unironically over for them once the current crop of Germans die out and are replaced by third worlders. Get ready for a dysfunctional state, the Somalia of the Rhine.

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Why MLM (Marxist-Leninism Maosim) fail?
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MLM as in the "third worldism" meme ideology?
or Maoism as in Mao Zedong Thought?
China today is pretty much exactly what Mao was pivoting to after the Cultural Revolution. Deng himself didn't actually change any real policy course from late Mao. It was Mao for example who aligned with the US and brought in US capital.
Third Worldism itself is just vulgar anti-Marxist claptrap because what makes up most of the left is self-hating "anti-Imperialists" who care more about "Imperialism" than any serious Marxist framework for understanding material productive relations.
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>>18581931
Pretty much all of /leftypol/ is third-worldist and they talk about how they want to nuke the USA and Europe all the time. Like it or not, Marxism has become a big tent for anti-white populism.
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>>18581898
>>18581808
Biggest problem was largely time period and the fact they were mostly winging it without proper information inputs, it's far easier to look back now and see obvious issues, but not so much for the time period. People forget pre 1960s politicians even in the west basically viewed scientists and academics as nothing but loser dorks.
Plenty of mistakes the USSR made with hindsight.
>Nomenklatura system of nepotism and "merits", led to the same folly as Chinese imperial bureaucracy where there was more incentive to sabotage each other, rather than try work together and risk some unknowable that may fail.
>Not breaking up National state lines. USSR should have broken up the national borders into administrative boundaries based on more economic/efficiency factors rather than historical/ethnicity. If there is no Ukrainian or Russian SSR, how can there be a Ukraine or Russia? Soviet identity should have been paramount.
>Capital of USSR should have not been in Russia, it should have been a new administrative city in a new capital federal territory probably where the triborder of Belarus, Latvia and Lithuania is. Capital city also should have had districts done in the classic architectual style of each Soviet Republic. This shows the USSR is not just a Russian project.
>Didn't develop or adopt Mass Line form of policy testing and Public responsiveness that the Chinese did.
>Didn't ship Lysenko to America to wreck American agriculture instead.
>Didn't abolish death penalty immediately. No death penalty, even if purges occur, those who are purged can be rehabilitated. When 1938 rocked around and even Stalin realized the Purges were retarded hysteria, it was too late, he couldn't bring back the CPSU's best minds and was stuck with hick retards like Khrushchev.
>Allowing anything like the Secret Speech to happen.
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>>18581934
Oh yeah I know, I've been banned from there more times than I can count for pointing out they actually don't have Marxist views, they just hate their boring suburban upbringing and blame it on "white people" while they fetishize "exotic" cultures.
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Turns out killing the smart people is a bad idea. But not killing them ends up killing communism. I'm sure there's a lesson somewhere

>90% of North America's population just keeled over dead from disease the second Columbus stepped off the boat

Anyone else not buying this?
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>>18581813
The black death still took multiple centuries to take full effect and thats with much denser population bases. We're supposed to believe that the supposedly advanced north American civilizations across the continent all broke down because of a few isolated white devils on the east coast?
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>>18581734
What books about the subject have you read to confidently say that you are not buying it? Have you tried to learn what the reason for these numbers even is?
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>>18581858
Wut? The Black Death went from 1346 to 1353. It killed like half of Europe and all it took was a handful of white devils landing on the coast of Italy. Ffs, you know Spain started running galleons from Acapulco on the WEST coast of Mexico to Manila in the Philippines twice a year starting in 1565, right?
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Yeah that is not the story. Population collapse in Mesoamerica was triggered by about seven or eight rounds of epidemics between 1520s and 1620 carving out a chunk of every generation.
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>>18581858
Why do you use terms like North American Civilization and East Coast? The Spanish landed in Yucatan and Veracruz in Mexico and invaded the mesoamerican civilization, coming to control Mexico coast to coast by 1530s.

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Mexican religion is basically the closest thing we will ever get to Warhammer 40k in real life. How many pulques spiked with psychedelic mushrooms did it take the Olmecs to come up with this nightmare religion. Worse than the Phoenicians
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>Human sacrifice is baaaad
>continue to sacrifice 1.2 million people every year to the gods of Velocity and Speed.
We are no better.
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>>18581639
If the Aztecs were still around and immigrated to the US, would they be allowed to do human sacrifices? I mean, the Constitution guarantees Freedom of Religion and all that shit…
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>>18581686
Your priest-administrators set up ritualized human and animal sacrifices during high religious holidays? How barbaric.
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>>18581799
The sacrifices would have to be performed by elected judges and sheriffs and/or police officers, one would assume.
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>>18581799
given that white southerners were allowed to practise ritualized human sacrifise of black Americans in Jim Crow south, I can see the precedent

Islam is a degenerate coomer religion
>In Islam, it is said that if you are a man, when you die, you will receive fair skinned virgins in heaven, and your wife whom you had on earth will be the queen of these virgins. These virgins are essentially your mindless servants whom you can use to sexually please yourself. This is a mainstream Islamic concept, and they are commonly referred to as hoor al ayn by Muslims. To clear up a misconception some people have, every Muslim male who goes to heaven will have these virgins available to him, not just martyrs. A man's wife doesn't get any male virgin companions of her own, the only person she's allowed to be with in heaven is her husband, while her husband can be with 72 other virgin girls
>Here are some of the characteristics of these virgins according to Islamic scriptures:
>They will remain virgins forever.....even after you have sex with them
>They will have wide lovely eyes
>They have will fair skin
>They will be completely hairless except for their brows and head
>They will be eternally young
>Their skin will be transparent enough where you can see the marrow of their bones (yeah I don't know why....)
>They will never menstruate/defecate/urinate
>They will have large breasts and appetizing vaginas
>They are pretty much mindless sex dolls, they have a modest gaze, and only seek to serve the Muslim man who becomes their husband in heaven
This must have just been a strategy Muhammad came up with to get 65iq illiterate sandniggas to fight for him
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A man needs sexy men in the afterlife
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>>18581750
prove it
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How about you prove your dick in my ass? That would be cool
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>>18581756
Islam does have moments with "beardless youths" if you are wondering, pakis rape boys on the bus all the time for example.
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>>18581743
Can I get that signed in angelic divine writing by God Himself?
Because if I can, I'll sign now


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