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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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What societies were the closest to being fascist that existed in the pre-Industrial age?

Ignore the meme.
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>>2986690
Name one instance where this happened outside spain.
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>>2991547
Spain wasn't even really fascist, just super traditionalist. Pretty sure Primo de Rivera was the actual fascist.
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>>2991541
What part of Sparta sounds fascist to you, other than the militarism?
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>>2991547
Did that even happen in Spain?
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>>2986677
Israel if you ignore authoritarian aspect of fascism and Singapore if you ignore nationalistic aspect of fascism

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How can the concept of hell be compatible with an omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient creator?
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>>2991620

So because your nonsense is incomprehensible, that makes it totally unlike HIS nonsense, because it's incomprehensible?
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>>2991619
Yes, David Hume explains very well why you have to be a retard to believe Jesus rose from the dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Miracles

>The followers of Mohammad never claimed Mohammad was God, risen from the dead.
He doesn't have to be God, they gave their lives for him and for their claims that Muhammad had rode to the moon on a mystical unicorn or whatever.

>We're not talking about the two most famous Greek philosophers of all time. We're talking about a homeless Jew.
I just argued against this point, idiot.
We're talking about a massively famous homeless Jew, Plato obviously wasn't born as the man he was.
This is a simple point you failed to grasp.
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>>2991546
It's always been about being one-on-one with your Creator; no group can save you, only God Himself. And He does not need any group, or anything but your consent.

No church ever saved anyone, and no church ever will.
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>>2991552
He has, actually. Your body, your mind, your world view are so loud that they drown him out. He speaks in a still, small voice in the back of your head.

You can fast for three days and listen for him, if you'd like, or you can read the bible He inspired through His men, and His prophets, and His Son.
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>>2991553
Absolutely. The soul is separate from the body.

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ITT: we discuss the greatest empire in history
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>>2991601
>Ottomans more evil than Nazi Empire
Butthurt Greek
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>>2989345
Did this map get even bigger?
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>>2991607
>Ottomans more evil than Nazi Empire
Nobody ever calls it Nazi empire and they were only big in wartime meaning it doesnt really count.

>Anyone who dislikes the ottoman empire must be a filthy gayreek!
The entire world hates you, when are you going to realize that?
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>>2991631
>Anyone who dislikes the ottoman empire must be a filthy gayreek!
no, its just you
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The Ottoman Empire is up there with the best, but I really think you should explain what happened in this particular place and why.

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Has Communism ever been implemented in a First World Late Stage Capitalist country like Marx said it should be?

Seriously now before all the /pol/kiddies come crying about the "not real communism" argument, to be fair it was Marx himself who said that Communism can only be implemented in a developed Capitalist society for it to succeed, which possessed the advanced infrastructure that could be provided only by late Capitalism to support it.

To me it makes a lot of sense, hence why in history underdeveloped countries like China and Russia which had their own revolutions inevitably had to implement Capitalist measures to be able to economically compete with the other highly advanced Capitalist nations of their time.
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>>2991462
Is this too much information for your tiny capitalist weeb brain to handle sweetie?
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>>2991473
>posting the first google result for "smug anime girl"
Nice
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Late Stage Capitalism is a meme prediction with nothing backing it up.

The only work communists seem to want to do is making up excuses and predictions for when it's totally going to happen this time.
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>>2991150
That's good though, you can filter him that way
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>>2991632
Too late, I've already stopped weebposting. Now he'll have no choice but to reply.

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Ponzi schemes usually collapse after weeks, months at best. How the hell did Madoff manage to keep his scheme running for decades?

Also, general historical frauds thread.
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>>2989908
You want some good hoaxes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pujol_Garc%C3%ADa

>Be average Juan living in spain
>Don't like the nazis
>Ask the UK to hire you as a spy, they turn you down
>Go to Germany and say you're some official who can spy on the UK for them
>They accept
>You've never been to the UK
>All your knowledge comes from travel brochures
>Start pranking them with obviously fake intel about the UK
>They believe you
>Your obvious bullshit gets intercepted by the brits
>Even perfidious little albion is impressed by the level of your ruse cruise

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BfUB5a994k

Andy Vollmer, a bigwig at SEC, questioned about the Madoff affair. One of the most surreal videos on Youtube.
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>>2977001
sounds like exactly what the govt is doing through the Fed -- audit it when?
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>>2976678
prior to 2000s, 20% Interest rates on savings was the standard. then drastically went to 1%

what happened?
>globalisation ponzi scheme

your funds were invested in China/India
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>>2991592
prior to 2000, gas was 1 a gallon for ages. then drastically went to $3-4 a gallon

what happened?
>peak oil ponzi scheme

fabricated peak oil propaganda is a creation of oil mafia to gouge oil prices

The lie resulted in the prices increased and every few years peak oil scaremongering would be repeated to drive higher oil prices...Pessimistic claims of future oil production made after 2007 stated that the peak had already occurred

They pushed the scam, that global oil production is about to peak, which in turn will signal the permanent end of cheap oil.

we were told that we passed peak oil more than a decade ago
>the rise in oil prices over the last decade was a result of the peak oil crisis
>shale oil utilized, price does not decrease

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>Looses 2 world wars
>becomes the most dominant country of europe
WTF?
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>>2991109
This is the full answer, OP.
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Racial superiority.
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Jews. They make countries powerful.
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>>2990901
Large, educated and intelligent population with autistic work ethic and a long tradition of enterprise and lack of colonial exploitation
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>>2990901
Superior genetics and culture

Also fuck /his/neets and fuck bong people.

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I have a question for Catholics

What makes you think the Church Jesus talks about in Matthew 16:18 is the modern Catholic Church?

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Who is the most Alpha Male kingdom/empire/nation in history?
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>>2991288
Russia
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>>2991288
I don't like roaches, but Turks were the most alpha without a single doubt

they took what they wanted, when they wanted it
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>>2991426
Until they tried to take from Europeans, then they got their shit fucked in by a Hussar.
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>>2991524
The Ottomans at their peak owned more of Europe than anyone else except Russia, which they got partly from spanking the Poles in several different wars and taking Podolia from them.

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Post 'em
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>>2991199
I don't u understand. What is altena?
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>>2990921
How is that /his/ related?
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>>2991139
It’s a sci-fi story from the 1982 book A Directory of Posibilities people are just assuming is real with no evidence.
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>>2991444
It's a historical event that's related to the Tunguska crater and to extraterrestrial presence on earth throughout the ages.

Also nice trips.
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>>2991199
>>2991600
Checked

Which is the real version of the picture? Ive heard this is a fake one
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>>2990473
The OP looks like the Pharaoh is fighting a multiethnic army.
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>>2990477
Not really, they all wear the same clothes. And yes, this is how this picture looks in real life.
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>>2990473
>It's rather interesting that some Nubians have the same skin color as the pharaoh.
You have to remember that by the time of the 19th Dynasty, the Egyptians had conquered Nubia several times. Egyptian subjugation of Nubia generally involved the construction of forts and immigration of sizable populations south to man these forts and support the towns around them, but when Egyptian influence declined, these people didn't always leave with them. Often times, they would even join the Nubians - the trend seems to be that they'd side with whoever looked the strongest.

With gaps of hundreds of years between periods of Egyptian control, it's not completely outside the realm of possibility for these Egyptian immigrants may have assimilated into Nubian society at least enough to start adding some color variety to the population.
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>>2990880
Your ignoring that the basis of both Nubia and Egypt os Nabta Playa. The darker people are from further south and who intermixed with Nabta Playa people's to varying degrees if any.

The idea that the Nile populations where not genetically unified at the end of the Neolithic Subpluvial is not based on archeological evidence of Nabta Playa.

Levantine and Nilotic populations merely "pulled" northern most and southern most populations.

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Anyone down for a map thread?

I was wondering if I could find one from the age of exploration, not relating to Indies but the whole rough draft of the globe and perhaps some cool ones of afrika

>here is my contribution
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>>2991155
Ah yes, the tri-national Slovenia map. Always interesting too look at
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We must attack the soft underbelly of the Axis.
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>>2991510

Germans aren't Aryan either. "Aryan" refers specifically to Indo-Iranian people. Why Hitler appropriated the term is anybody's guess.
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>>2991510
Anglo/Americans are beyond saving at this point. But in the 1940s there was still hope.

Today only a few Europeans are pure enough to continue the existence of the pure Aryan stock. Most live in rural areas and are free from cultural Marxism/Judaism
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>Hitler
>Aryan
>E1b1b
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>>2991246
Churchill is god tier. There is nothing as cool as an antihero.
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>>2991246
"...so as you can see Mr. Fisher, an attack on Gallipoli would win us the war in six months!"

Hey guys.

So I just finished my third year at uni (archaeology and classical studies) and I have a fuck ton of PDFs hanging around, and I figured I'd like to share them with my favorite historical shitposting forum. How do I do that?
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>>2991055
when your theory has no predictive power and cannot be disproved its called pseudoscience. that's what your spouting right now
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>>2990979
>he believes pseudoscience
>the entire academic world is somehow a giant jewish conspiracy

If you're too dumb to read a book you should stay in /pol/
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Thank you OP
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>>2990979
Are you also a flat earther?
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>>2991332
>he doesn't realize that he's become a mere puppet of the jews
kekity lel

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Is antinatalism the purest slave morality?
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>>2991388
Nietzsche was a complete failure when it came to actually following his own philosophy.
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>>2991407
>Even Christians aren't pathetic enough to promote the idea of virtue in having no genetic viability.
There's a very strong tradition of voluntary celibacy in the traditional churches that is supported by scripture.
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>>2991441
scripture can be distorted to support whatever people want it to. The Bible says children are a blessing.
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>>2991491
Christ and Paul say if you can, you should be celibate, although they both recognize that it's not for everyone . Celibacy should be a serious consideration for every Christian, and they should reject it only when they are sure they aren't cut out for it.
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>>2991573
"5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Matthew 19



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