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sedevancatist jesus be like>and you will worship me in latin!!111!!!11
>>18460645The hostility you're showing tells me you're someone full of resentment and bitterness. Jesus condemns that. I think you want to be wealthy yourself and simply don't have the means, so you say that Jesus condemns having good things. He does not. In the story he drinks and eats, wears expensive perfumes, wears finely made clothing, owns a large boat that he uses to relax on the Galilee with his friend.
>>18460647You love money and paint it as loving God that you're a loser. If God thought that you'd be of great use with money, you'd have it, would you not? And yet he knows that in your heart is an incredible lust for money and the power it provides. Why do you act with such seething anger at the rich? Do you think it will save you from the condemnation of your own heart?
>>18460651I directly dismiss money. Why do you have to lie in favor of money by projecting your opinion onto me? I am the one saying "Jesus despised money." Jesus openly taught against the use of money as trade, as it lead to excess and hate. You believe yourself above me for your economics, and have to twist the Word of God to hand-wave away your fear of judgment.
>>18460649If the truth is hostile, then you are believe in a lie. I love God.
>>18460668Judgment for what? Do you give your money to the poor? Great, I give more! You "dismiss" money because you can't have it, you suffer from sour grapes syndrome. You hate that you cannot have the God-given luxuries of this life and be saved. The advice of Jesus is all about how to accumulate, but justly, and not to be swallowed up by it. But as I showed you, he actually enjoyed himself quite a bit with his funds. It's why his girlfriend even showed up in the first place with the expensive perfume he bought her to honor him.
I like Islam but struggle to understand how the early fitnas aren't a huge mark against it. Why couldn't this religion bring peace to the most immediate companions of the prophet Muhammad? Why were 3 of the 4 rightly guided caliphs killed by Muslims? Why couldn't Muhammad declare a successor, and if he really did and it was Ali, how could Allah allow that part of the message of Islam to be corrupted?
>>18457079>There is nothing comparable to the animosity between Ali and AishaIt's awe-inspiring. To this day shia dogs call into egyptian cooking shows to hurl insults at Aisha.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlKPK6HDnjQ
>>18459767They have been fighting and overthrowing each others for 1400 years this Ummah brotherhood is a meme if they aren't fighting an outside power or empire to conquer and rob land and resources from they will fight and steal from each others. Islamists were fighting each others in the Sahel unti West Africans sent home the Europeans who were protesting them then the islamists turn on them.
>>18457043>I like Islam but struggle to understand how the early fitnas aren't a huge mark against it.What are you talking about. Everyone knows even muslims. The main sect sunni islam is copium the religion about the first century of islam. The main tenets are to not talk about this time period. Had they managed to destroy the shiites then it would have been buried
>>18457043>I like Islamgo fuck the goats achmed
>>18457043Skin color?
Nobody in the Middle East or the Indian Subcontinent identifies as Iranic today. Nobody is running and jumping mountains to learn Persian language either, yet the Arabic classes are stuffed to the seams with students.Why are there not Pajeets, Pakis or Balochs, Afghan Pashtuns walking around saying "Bro, i'm Iranic, get it correct"Even Iraqi Shias don't claim to be Iranic.Why are the Taliban not claiming Iranic identity? Why are the Uzbeks not going around telling everyone they are Iranic? The only "how could you tell i'm Iranic" types today are the Persians themselves. If the Iranians were so great and powerful why didn't they leave a legacy of larpers like other Civilization’s do? People who hold historical involvement with the Persians should be scrambling to identify themselves as Iranic or Persian, right? But they aren't.For example, We are told "nothing is worse than being an Indian", so why are those Indian Pajeets not leaping on the opportunity to say "I'm not Indian, I'm Iranic" if they could indeed back that larping up with some historical evidence?
>>18460502The Indians say they are Iranians Afghans also speak Persian.
>>18460506>The Indians say they are IraniansSeriously? I've never heard an Indian calling himself an Iranian ever in my life.Afghans may speak Persian but we are told they are not Persian both by Afghans themselves and the Persians. We are told that Afghan Persian and Farsi Persian is "not the same and is in fact 2 different languages" by Persian diaspora.
>>18460502Us Punjabis are also Iranic
>>18460511Afgans say they're central-asian culturally and an Iranic ethnic group to demarcate themselves from south asians/indo-aryans. Balochis are literally iranic
>establishes one of the biggest empires in history>leaves no order of successionWas he retarded?
>Don't you forget about me>Don't, don't, don't, don't>Don't you forget about me...
>>18459648>Why would he give a fuck about that?A SANE AND DILIGENT PERSON WOULD CARE TO SECURE THE FUTURE OF HIS WORKS; HE WOULD TAKE MEASURES SO THAT HIS LEGACY TRANSCENDS HIM AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, INSTEAD OF LETTING EVERYTHING THAT HE ACCOMPLISHED DIE WITH HIM, OR BE PERVERTED.THE FACT THAT MEGAS ALEXANDROS DID NOT TAKE ACTION FOR THE FUTURE AFTER HIS CONQUESTS, EVINCES, EITHER, NARCISSISTIC PATHOLOGY, OR INDOLENT NEGLIGENCE.
Alexander is heir to the consciousness of starsHis actions are not meant to be understood by mostAnd much less emulated by the unchosenNot that the unchosen are not capable of greatness, but because of specific qualities that are necessary for agreeable fusion
>>18460112Bump, just for more exposure for the dummies to read
>>18460087Those boomer vet layer become ancestor of modern Afghan and other central Asians?
>>18460652So Christianity is a justified faith is what you're saying, because a world without Christianity makes less sense, even if we can not be absolutery certain that Christianity is absolutely true. Why yes, I fully agree.
>>18460648>a better alternativeDo you believe in the evidence of the big bang yes or no? If yes, you have found a better alternative, as Christian's don't believe in the big bang since it contradicts the creation myth.
>>18460657>you have found a better alternativeNo because big bang theory (for which there is no evidence) doesn't explain something from nothing, while Christianity does, so you still fail to produce a better alternative.
>>18460658It explains the creation of the universe, Christianity doesn't 1:0 get BTFO. Christianity gets discarded before we even start talking about what came before.
>>18460655I'm not saying justified anything.It's a dismissal of a truth claim.Just because Christianity may make sense. It doesn't mean it is true.Which is why scrutiny and research is important.We could come to better ideas through such processes.
Where does the idea of China's naval superiority over Europe come from? Even in the early 19th century, decades before the Opium Wars, the biggest pirate fleet in history, comprised of hundreds of Chinese ships and thousands of men was defeated by just 7 Portuguese ships
Just random butthurt wumao
>>18460660shut up mutt lol
>"The 1950s being happier and safer is just a myth"
>>18460612>i posted it, so it must be true!
>>18460612Post demographic statistics supporting the claim or GTFO
>>18460581all of the social problems the us had before the war were still there after the war. there were still race riots and paranoia over your neighbor being a secret gomnunist, the difference was that the economy was really good because the rest of the world was in ruins so nobody cared
>>18460612Now the vast majority of americans do the same thing, but in an even worse and browner society.nice.
Why did God do this?
Christfags will argue that aborting it would've been evil and that the suffering is a test for its parents
>>18459893>happenings that would make the bronze age look like a jokeI believe you mean "bronze age collapse" because we already make the bronze age look like a joke with our technology and globalization
>>18459868>disabled people prove God isn’t real. aren’t i so smart
>>18459884The harming part is referring to a joker. There was this great analogy I saw the other day how deck of cards represents nature's order. The duality in colors, a empty notion in itself without an invisible force to destabilize the balance and create tension of interest, an entropy, a joker.Arguably, it's the only reason things are possible and in motion, since for things to be in motion, someone needs to make that initial push, and that is that force that joker represent, a chance that allows you to win jackpots, the chance that creates genetic abomination, the chance that makes you find the love of your life, a chance for you to succeed and a chance for everything to end right there and than.You will never understand the need for chance since you are born and destined to be sheltered, spoiled goy cattle cry baby who in his highest moments of primitive greed ask the universe it self to bow down before his shaken little knees. You are disgrace to all human race for refusing to realize above spoke truth.
What went wrong?
>>18459527It has long been a common practice of inviting immigrants from wealthier/mercantile cultures to develop urban centers and key industrial/trade sectors that the native population lacks the connections, numbers or knowledge to develop. For example, Saxons in in the Balkans, or the Sudeten Germans in Bohemia.
>>18459554For losers like ones you listed maybe
>>18459504>mfw Coombrains want to keep the island for themselvesnothing personnel
>>18459582>mfw seeing all the Bernician sluts seeking refuge in my lands after their men jobbed to the Norse harder than we ever did Enjoy that Celtic Y-DNA. Coombrogichads stay winning.
>>18459442>Eventually it became a satrap of the Scots but seems to have held quasi independence into the 11th century.This is what confuses me. It feels like there are some lost decades between an independent Strathclyde and that area coming under the Scots.What were the Cumbrians doing at this time? Were they fighting the Scots, marrying into them, or just giving up? Some of the last Cumbrian kings had Gaelic names, then they switched back. There's also a bit of evidence that the son of the last Cumbrian king assassinated the king of Alba and took his throne for a time. But they were both named Mael Colium, I think. The annexation process seems very hazy.
How are these two sides squared?
Jesus contradicts the Old Testament about keeping kosher
>>18460564The gospel Jesus is a mythical character originally invented by a Paulist as part of an allegory for Pauline Christianity with the earliest version of the gospel of Mark, perhaps expanded into the lost version of Luke used by Marcion, and the earliest version of Matthew is what happened when Anti-Paul Jewish Christians liked the story but wanted to rewrite it to suit their own beliefs while embedding various subtle and not-so-subtle anti-Paul subliminal messages. Later, the gospels belonging to various opposed early Christian sects as well as Paul's letters were grabbed up by one group and edited into passable agreement if you squint so hard you can't see properly, and that became the one true Christianity.
>>18460564Paul knew he couldn’t sell chrtianity to the pagan goys with all the kosher crap. So he streamlined it to make it more palatable . And managed to start an early Noahide movement that would lead to romes down fall aka chrtianity.
If Christianity isn't jewish, why had it, during its long dominance, never obliterated the jews? The largest purges against jews by Europeans had been by Pagan Rome during the Roman-Jewish Wars, and the Neopagan/Theistically Ambiguous Third Reich, before and after Christianisation. Christcucks never did anything beyond expulsions and pogroms, these likely being economic or political, rather than theological. Not one single large-scale war effort against jewry. Not one attempt to rid them out of Europe for good. Despite labelling them Godkillers, there's actually been many more vocal declarations of jews being friends to Christians, important to Christianity, or even calling Christians themselves jews. Explains why the clergy failed to prevent liberalism and marxism taking over: because they were in on it.All of which is why I call it Judaism-For-Export. For the one line it has maintained throughout two thousand years is having goyim convert populations benefit jews without inducting them into the privilege of Judaism proper.
>>18456022Jesus: You cannot serve both God and money.The Jewish people: Extreme money addiction, and the severely altered thinking attached to it
>>18460307You can fool other lower beings, but you cannot fool the most high, as you are made up of Him in the first place. He can see the lie you hold.
>>18460379Hey I know you you're that charlatan jew who runs away with his tail between his legs when your pilpul doesn't work, how've you been coward kikel?
>>18460379>No!!! You cannot le feed the poor or live an upright life as a joke!! You have to believe in a talking snakeYou. Can’t. Do. Shit!
>>18455855Christianity is *the* successor of Second Temple Judaism, and by its traditions, books, messages and prominent figures it is acceptable to say that Christianity is Jewish. Modern Rabbinic Judaism though is quite seperate from previous Judaism.The most Jewish thing a Jew can do is to accept Yeshua, as the prophesied Mashiach, and His Church.
>>18455579Enki is a lower form. Anu and YHWH are tautologically equal on a symbolic basis. So even under that explanation it is pure spite and arrogance. Worshipping Ba'al doesn't negate the existence of life itself, which is what God truly is.
>>18455579>>18460603And besides, just because a few Satanists and Luciferians just so happen to dishonestly or delusionally equate him with something like Enki (which actually resembles Christ or Thor), or Nammu (Ishtar), does not negate the true historical origin of that symbol being rooted in something closer to Enlil, or in the ideas of hatred, ego and violence themselves. This is why all Satanists manifest themselves into some form of degeneracy and backwards moralism. Typically they are also lazy and stupid.
Does it?
>>18460610I forgot to mention that Ba'al is a corruption of the idea of El, or Enlil in the first place. And that the idea of the draconic Satan is directly lifted from the war of Tiamat and Abzu (which is ruled by... Enki). So Satan could not possibly share origin with Enki.
>>18455321 Because Those who bless Isreal will be blessed those who curse Isreal will be cursed.
does 1970s britain deserve its grim reputation?
Everyone in the world is given the choice to press a red or blue button in a private vote. It is optional. In this one you have three choices: red, blue, or abstention. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button and half of abstainers survive. Which button would you press?If you abstain, you have a 50% chance of dying in the event that blue does not reach a majority. You can either pick red or pick blue. If you pick red you know that anyone who refuses to vote also dies, which means you directly caused the death of half of those who refused to vote. This more neatly captures the difficulties that arise in political conflicts when innocents are caught in the middle. You know that by not picking a side you will almost certainly be killed, but if you pick red you will also kill innocents.What is your choice, /his/?
>>18460100Ok, then what's the prisoner's dilemma?
>>18452816I really like this thought experimentmy initial impulse was to press blue, so no one has to diethinking about it a bit deeper, it's true that if everyone just pressed red then no one would have to die either, so maybe that's the better optionthe reformulation of the problem as "press blue to enter the death lottery" or whatever is a good way to look at itbut, apparently, running this poll in real life shows that people tend to press blue more. so now I KNOW that I need to press blue if this happens in real life, otherwise a lot of people will die
>>18460563>running this poll in real life shows that people tend to press blue more.Lol you're too optimistic, most people would press red
>>18456747I would augment the question that everyone is meant to be in a registry to vote. At the end, everyone who voted would have that information made public.
There's a psychology to the voters in these tests.The one that I want to focus on are the red voters.To the red voters, it really is the idea of a win-win situation. They secure their survival but also ensure the demise of who they would consider 'dissident participants.' In their minds they had it coming to them in their vainglorious naive ideal.This runs in contrast to the blue voter. For the blue voter they couldn't live with themselves in thinking they could be responsible for the loss of life to another. Whereas the red voter has no scruple in the idea. In their minds they are not responsible for the demise of the other.In the mind of the red voters, democracy holds no responsibility to any other than those of the voter's interest.But, the fact is: democracy does effect greater society. It's by design meant shape policy by the people's vote. If everyone only voted for their own interest, it would come to at the expense of others.For the blue voter, they vote their conscious because they recognize the power of their vote being able to transcend beyond them and effect everyone else. In this case their survival. They are also putting their faith in the decency of their fellow man.For the red voter's outcome, their victory ensures their survival, but it also ensures their view of the world is a reality.
