Christians kind of put themselves in a box when they decided God is a benevolent sky daddy whatever because they could never escape the problem of evil whereas Muslims, Jews, pagans etc never had that issue since they were freely willing to accept the idea that God can be vengeful and not necessarily your buddy.
>>18553774There is more evidence in favor of Heaven than against it
>>18553868How so?
>>18552557Evil is reframed when you consider that all things are aligned towards the good of every individual's eternal soul. That's hard to see within time. Very hard in some cases.The maximal good is divine love; recursively willing the best of others.The mind cannot grasp light in the absence of darkness. It is fundamentally unable to conceive of a concept in the absence of the contrast that makes it perceptible. From our point in space, we can see both the darkness of empty space and the sun. If you could somehow survive inside that star, you would be unable to see the darkness.So it is with character and actions that lack goodness. If evil was something you could not see, goodness becomes unseeable also. If the concept cannot even be grasped, it cannot be freely chosen. To not freely choose God's goodness is to make it something other than love, for love requires a both a lover and a beloved both willingly engaging in the process.
>>18553891Evidence against existence of Heaven: brain-mind dependence, very poorly understood, might be wrong, crucially - not direct evidence anyway.Evidence for existence Heaven: personal NDE and religious testimony, unreliable, but direct evidence.
>>18553789Does the cancer have free will? Why do kids have to get cancer for us to have free will?
How does karma work without a paramount god in charge?Who makes it so that I (temporarily) go to hell if I do bad things like killing, stealing, raping etc.?What's the equation connecting the amount of pain I cause here and now and the amount of pain I'll have to suffer in the future?
>>18553602>>18553607God is the agent who does this (through gravity)
>>18553588Honestly, I think you may be right. What can I do to help you?
>>18553642Not even funny as a joke
>>18553567>How does karma work without a paramount god in charge?Assuming karma and reincarnation is real, everything works itself out through many lives. In one life you step on people, and another you get stepped on.But that's assuming karma and reincarnation is real (or even God).The worst alternative (and the most probable one) is that there is no karma, reincarnation, or God: people do bad things or good things and nothing changes
>>18553602>>18553607Got a comeback to this?
>Singlehandedly liberates western Europe from fascist barbarity>Rebuilds the french Republic>Keeps greedy Anglo-Saxons out of the european CommunityHe was a hero for the peoples of Europe
>>18554954No one made Brits seethe more than him
>He was a hero for the peoples of Europe Lol, no, stinky shill.
>No one made Brits seethe more than h-ACKWrong again, putrid shill.
what or who of modernity (for the sake of this thread. we will define modernity as from the 17-18th century to the present) will be remembered in a thousand or so years? will future historians know more about modernity 1000 years from now than we know about 1000 years ago today?what events will remain permanently etched into our historical record? what might be lost?I've been thinking about this stuff a lot recently.
>>18551640And to add to this, while many other people had more important individual contributions to the development of civilization and science (yeah, the mission was risky, but it could and would have happened with someone else in Armstrong’s place if he wasn’t there), simple symbolic value tends to persist over more complex stuff. First man on the moon, can’t take that away or replace it.
I wonder what will be corrupted or made into myth and legend
>>18549060In 50 years (let alone a thousand) humanity will either be exterminated, or converted into a cyborgian human-machine civilization. Religions will all be eliminated (there will be no jews or christians or muslism or buddhists or hindus etc) and we can't fully comprehend what life will be like for the beings in this civilization.Anyone thinking that humanity will persist as we are over the next few decades (let alone a thousand years from now) is simply a moron in denial.
>>18552383>>18552383>muh AI doomsday larpingyou people have been saying this same fucking thing for decades.
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The so called "based china" everyone
>>18554671So, you want China to destroy other ethnic cultures?
>>18554996I think all Turkics are superior to Chinks. They just never had the ability to elevate themselves because of garbage terrain.
>>18555003Utterly unhinged. Turkic peoples only developed worthwhile cultures based on proximity to Russians, Persians and Chinese. Meanwhile China has been a beacon of culture for millennia.
>>18555008Chinks have also had farming for millennia, Turkics have only had Steppes. Yet the Turkics still had Empires, whereas the Chinkcels got Colonized by Mongols and Manchurians. Chink advantage has only been numerical and territory, incredible good land to farm on. Japanese Empire also turned them into a RapeZone, further proving their incredible racial inferiority.
>>18555040A nomad warrior class taking over settled agricultural states during times of crisis is as old as humanity, just look at the Arameans.
What atrocities did rashidun, ummayed, abbasid, ottoman empires commit? I am trying to learn more about the history of islam and being muslim i have been brainwashed into believing that we are the good guys in history
>>18554799this, you aren't that special. also unremarkable is the fact that your barbaric ass religion explicitly permits such atrocities. most barbaric ass ancient religions did. the only remarkable thing about Islam is that we're still dealing with you.Even then, I'd say the only reason you guys are still around isn't because of anything you did, it's becase the western powers punked out in the 20th centuryI am legit curious, how in the world does one go through life thinking the muslims are the good guys? Give me the story as you know itI have nothing but contempt for Islam itself, but I'll admit that I respect the civilizational achievements of the Muslim world. When you guys finally become Christian I would suggest keeping Mecca around as an open-air historical museum instead of just bulldozing it. I look forward to staying in that cool clock tower hotel
>>18554852Muslims are outbreeding you. Your daughters will be impregnated by Muslim men and your grandkids will wear the niqab and thawb. Mashallah.
>>18554859Does this matter when middle eastern muslims are leaving islam in numbers?
>>18554859>durka durka kaboom>ooga booga white wimminzthat's all you people can do. my post was comparatively charitable, I even said I respected your ancient civilizational achievements. But all your kind can do is froth at the mouth and yell about muh dik and jihadfaggot
>weHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did Jesus appear to 500 people? Did this event actually happen? Paul does seem to believe so, and few scholars (Ehrman, Allison, etc.) doubt he was lying there. The common skeptic argument that he's simply believing a claim someone else told him is pretty solid on the surface:>Paul is the only person to claim this>Paul was not an eyewitness>we do not know where he heard this>Paul does not give any names or places to find these people>he's making the claim to an audience that already believes in resurrection>no other Christian sources ever corroborate this claim and even gospel authors left it out>there have been similar claims of group appearances throughout historyHowever, Christian apologetics do have a strong counter-argument:>Paul implies that he knows some of these people and that some have already passed, meaning that he's inviting people to go search for themIn other words, it implies that Paul has personally talked and knows some of these people here. That's a pretty strong case that pretty much debunks the skeptic argument. However, are there any good skeptical arguments against this counter-argument? Maybe Paul did not know who these people were after all?
>>18553971>Why would they make it up?because stupid people will think it strengthens the story?
>>18554428dude, that is completely irrelevant AI slop. the story is that these people did not just believe but knew from firsthand experience unlike Heaven's Gate, and that makes all such comparisons moot. the correct answer is that the story is obviously made up, like me claiming that I flew from one balcony to another and 500 people saw it, go find them and ask them if you do not believe.
>>18553688Name these 500 witnesses.
>>18554151Indeed. This is why Communism is true because why else would so many people go to their deaths for it?
>...ΩΦΘΗEΠIΠΕΝΤΗΚΟΣΤOΣAΔΕΛΦΟΙΣ...>"he appeared on Pentecost to the brethren">(like Acts 2, when there were 120 brethren)>*small copying mistake, smudge, or damage to the manuscript resulting in gibberish*>*attempted reconstruction by the next scribe*>...ΩΦΘΗEΠAΝΩΠΕΝΤΑΚΟΣIΟΙΣAΔΕΛΦΟΙΣ...>"he appeared to more than five hundred brethren"Still my favorite theory
If this board loves Stalinism so much why don’t any of you pack your bags and move to the last Stalinist country in Europe - Pridnestrovie? I mean this as a serious question. Shilling for Stalinism in liberal nations will never work and there is already one Republic left that espouses your same viewsBy continuing to live in the west because of the social contract theory you are tacitly acknowledging you support everything that the west and capitalism do.
By "communist," I mean those that claim they are communist.
>>18554775Pridnestrovie and Cuba are the last two existing M-L (I consider Juche as revisionist) countries on earth and they don’t seem that bad relatively speaking. I just made the thread to ask why not at least visit these two countries? They’re not sealed off from the world Korea style so I’d visit them if I could. Like if there weren’t a war on and I had enough money
>>18554781Well, if things cool down after Trump and you have money, just go, I guess. I know for sure I don't want to live in such a country; as for a vacation/visit, every place is fine to be honest.
>>18552829>pridnestrovie>communistDo Westoids really?
>>18554781liberal-kun, pridnestrovie essentially banned its communist party years ago and is currently run by corporatocrats, and not wholesome 100 national-bourgeois ones like in china either
>The Soviet-Union was on the verge of losing to a country whose largest city looked like something out of a post-apocalyptic movieHow?
>>18554887When certified communist Lee Harvey Oswald thought it was pants and left, it says something.
>>18553991Anyone who was alive and conscious in the 1990s can tell you that East Berlin looked like shit, and East Germany was literally the best and most developed part of the Ostbloc in terms of quality of life and infrastructure development. >Moscow and Leningrad had shiny stuff tho!!!Yeah congrats on falling for literally the most basic, low IQ targetted, plebian propaganda you can possibly imagine. I can find pictures of shiny neon lights in Bangkok today, but that doesn't make Thailand a nicer country than the comparatively more boring and "medieval" looking Portugal with no flashy lights or mega skyscrapers
The best part is that the poor oppressed american negro had a higher material living standard than doctors and engineers in the USSR.America has so much money we can give our poorest people a higher living standard than middle class in most EU countries.And dont forget about "government cheese" . America was literally giving away FREE CHEESE cause American dairy farmers were producing SO MUCH of it.
>>18554750The US liked using East European winter (which looks like the place is just dead in places too warm for snow cover) in its anti east propaganda, and literally used Dallas (the 80's show, not the city) to show to the east how Americans lived.
>>18554894it still amazes me how retards still fall for basic shit like pretty pic v ugly pic for their ideologies, especially when the internet has made it easy as shit to find a good/ugly pic of just about anything
The British tried out an Jüdische prime minister once and he turned out to be one of the greatest statesmen in their history. Would it perhaps be right time for US to try out the same with their president?
>>18554891I guarantee you even the Roosevelts had extensive British ancestry. People in America don't marry exclusively within the ethnicity of their surname lol.>t. Actual German with a Spanish surname from an ancestor 150+ years ago
>>18554891Eisenhower was of German heritage, old stock Palatinate Germans from the 18th century immigration wave and the family name had been Anglicized at some point from Eisenheur (Iron Hewer).
Washington: English, Adams: English, Jefferson: English, Madison: English, Monroe: Scottish, JQ Adams: English, Jackson: Scottish, Van Buren: Dutch, Harrison: English, Tyler: English, Polk: English, Taylor: English, Fillmore: English, Pierce: English, Buchanan: Irish, Lincoln: English, Johnson: English, Grant: English, Hayes: English, Garfield: English, Arthur: English, Cleveland: Anglo-German, Harrison: English, McKinley: Scottish, Roosevelt: Dutch, Taft: English, Wilson: English, Harding: English, Coolidge: English, Hoover: German, Roosevelt: Dutch+French Huguenot, Truman: English, Eisenhower: German, Kennedy: Irish, Johnson: English, Nixon: German+Irish, Ford: Irish, Carter: English, Reagan: Irish, Bush: English, Clinton: English (subsequent presidents not /his/)
>>18553691This actually isn't right, because it would be in accusative in the context of the sentence. Thus, einen jüdischen Prime Minister.
>>18554909damn you're right, having the rest of the sentence in English completely threw me off with the correct declension there.
We're now on the 39th day of my daily presidents threads celebrating the 250th anniversary of the USA.Today we have Ronald Reagan (2/6/1911 - 6/5/2004), who served as president from 1981 to 1988. Prior to being president, he was a movie star, president of the screen actor's guild, and governor of California. He was also in the army during WW2. Notable actions or events during his presidency include Reaganomics, the PATCO Strike, the Savings and Loan Crisis, the Immigration Reform and Control Act, Engel v. Vitale, the Strategic Defense Initiative, the Reagan Doctrine, the Invasion of Grenada, his narrowly failed Assassination Attempt, the War on Drugs, the AIDS Epidemic, Operation El Dorado Canyon, the Iran-Contra Affair, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, the Bitburg Controversy, and the 1983 Beirut Barracks Bombings,What do you think of the movie star with Alzheimer's?
>>18551744dude he got a blood transfusion from before they screened it for AIDS so a fag donated infected blood
>>18550931we can't go up to Obama, anon
then again Mondale still won 37M votes in '84. those electoral landslide maps look less impressive when you see the popular votes, they make it look like Reagan won 90% of the vote.
>>18551468>>18549919And Ronald Reagan's speeches' scriptsAll came from famous movie clips
>>18552467>LBJfag damage control in every election the Republican won
not ted bundy, not hitler, no one. to be in flames for eternity? not a single human being deserves such a thing. literally no one is that evil
How can anyone truly deserve anything?
>>18554586Hi rodent. That's not what the Bible teaches. Enjoy Hell.
>>18554721Why is it excessive?
>>18554721All afterlife is non temporal and eternalThere is no such thing as a temporary condition because change is not a thing after this life
>>18554586What if God really is all that is good *and* you know that *and* you still hate Him?What if you know that to refuse Him forever is identical to eternal torment, but you still choose to do so because the sin that convincingly, and with your full support, calls itself 'you' would have to die otherwise?What if you fostered a hatred of forgiveness to the point you've rendered yourself incapable of receiving it?You'd not only deserve it, you'd choose it.
Would American politics be fixed if whites were removed from the South after the Civil War and blacks were allowed to control the South for themselves, and thus no KKK, no race riots, and no Great Migration of blacks from the South to non-Southern cities like Chicago and Los Angeles?
>>18554853American politics would be fixed if every single evangelicuck neocon boomer was smothered with a pillow.
>>18554853Well then I guess they would have become an independent country immediately and there would have been a second civil war lol.
>>18554853>what if we let the monkeys run the zoostupid question
>>18554862This. Dixoid monkeys were allowed to govern themselves after the war and the south is a shithole to this day.
This is what the North tried to do with disenfranchising Confederate veterans, it turned the South into zones divided by warlords
Structuralism ruins lives.
You're boring.
>>18553047I like that circus music he wrote, "entry of the gladiators"
>>18553188Are you disrespecting me?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zn1f63n8u7c&t=287s
>>18552991tell him to do it in writing. I'm not watching youtube videos for the text.
The sermont on the mount was nice. Why destroy it? Lol.
>>18554610Because gaytheists hate God.
>>18552991Im not watching this, summarize his points for me
>>18552991Keking at the pic
