Reminder that the Greeks and Italians/Romans peaked under paganism and after their conversions to Christianity, they became shitholes that produced nothing useful intellectually or culturally.>”but what about the Renaissance-ACK”The Renaissance was kickstarted by Gemistos Plethon, who was arguably the first neopagan. It was he who reintroduced classical texts to Western Europe that otherwise would have been lost. It was his lectures on Plato that directly inspired most Renaissance-era thinkers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistos_PlethonJust accept it Christcucks, these places were better off when they were pagan.
The Greeks by the classical age had already begun replacing the gods with speculative philosophy.
Many classical institutions were repurposed under the Church.
>>18010426Rome became a shithole wayy before Christianity. It was kind of a shitdumpster during the times of Sulla desu. Noticing the decadence of his time, he tried to set back the clock of history sort of. For this goal he ordered the execution of hundreds of Patricians and executed more of them. The idea was to improve the Patrician racial stock. After so many deaths, he probably stopped believing in his plan at some point.
>>18010426Correct."Would not any man be justified in detesting the more intelligent among you, or pitying the more foolish, who, by following you, have sunk to such depths of ruin that they have abandoned the ever-living gods and have gone over to the corpse of the Jew".- Emperor Julian>"Fascism, I think, was the most radical revolutionary movement that Europe has seen since the age of Constantine. Because unlike the French Revolution, unlike the Russian Revolution, it doesn’t even target institutional Christianity: it targets the moral/ethical fundamentals of Christianity. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution are still preaching the idea that the victim should be raised up from the dust and that the oppressor should be humbled into the dust; it’s still preaching the idea that the first should be last and the last should be first just as Christ has done. The Nazis do not buy into that". - Tom Holland>"The reason the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity".- Adolf Hitler (Table Talk)>"So the last will be first, and the first last".Matthew 20:16Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18012255>"Fascism, I think, was the most radical revolutionary movement that Europe has seen since the age of Constantine. Because unlike the French Revolution, unlike the Russian Revolution, it doesn’t even target institutional Christianity: it targets the moral/ethical fundamentals of Christianity. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution are still preaching the idea that the victim should be raised up from the dust and that the oppressor should be humbled into the dust; it’s still preaching the idea that the first should be last and the last should be first just as Christ has done. The Nazis do not buy into that".>Nazi ideology is based on the idea that the Aryan race is oppressed and exploited by world Jewry and should be raised up from the dust and the oppressor humbled into the dust...
Judging by looks alone these people look like a combination of Arab and Greek While the actual Turkic people look like a combination of Chinese and Iranian (indo-aryan)Idk why they are in the same group as them
>>18011643anon discovers that nomadic conquerors get ethnically assimilated into the sedentary populations they conquer
>>18011643Azeris and Eastern Turks look like a mix of Armenians, Georgians, Iranians, Afghans, Kurds, TurkmensWestern Turks like a mix of Greeks, Georgians, Armenians, Jews, Tatars, Albanians, KazakhsOr something along those lines. I don't find them to be particularly Arab-looking, they overlap with Levantine/Mesopotamian Arabs but not Arabians/Bedouins/Egyptians...
>Alexander the Great's army was on a campaign for 13 yearsHow often did ancient soldiers have sex? Would it have been gay sex?
>>18010261The world back then didn't resemble the twitch streams you watch all evening
>>18010178>muh sexThey were busy working and marching so they had other things on their mind. I guess if they had the opportunity they fucked some whore to relax. Sex isnt some necessity like food or air you know.
>>18010235Room Temperature IQ Award
>>18010178They mostly ignored w*men and brought a bunch of shotas and traps along with them during their peregrinations, including Alexander:>There Nabarzanes, having received a safe conduct, met him [Alexander], bringing great gifts. Among these was Bagoas, a eunuch of remarkable beauty, and in the very flower of boyhood, who had been loved by Darius and was afterwards to be loved by Alexander; and it was especially because of the boy's entreaties that he was led to pardon Nabarzanes.>It was in fact at this time that Alexander gave loose rein to his passions, and changed continence and self-control, eminent virtues in every exalted fortune, to haughtiness and wantonness. ...>Three hundred and sixty-five concubines, the same number that Darius had had, filled his palace, attended by herds of eunuchs, also accustomed to prostitute themselves.>Therefore he [Alexander] received the envoys of the Sakai courteously and gave them Euxenippos to accompany them; he was still very young and a favourite of the king because of his youthful beauty, but although in handsome appearance he was equal to Hephaestion, he was not his match in a charm which was indeed not manly.>For when he had honoured all the friends of the king with gifts beyond their highest hopes, to Bagoas, a eunuch who had won the regard of Alexander through yielding his body, he paid no honour, and on being admonished by some that Bagoas was dear to Alexander, replied that he was honouring the friends of the king, not his harlots, and that it was not the custom of the Persians to mate with males who made females of themselves by prostitution.— Curtius Rufus, The Histories of Alexander the Great
When they say eunuchs (back then), are they refering to people who actively cut their pride and joy off or hermaphrodites?
How did such a kind, charitable, selfless person over time become a symbol for hardcore conservatism? Giving his teachings and what we know about him (assuming you believe), Jesus would've been socially liberal, didn't look down on outcasts, taught to love those who show hate, helped the poor, tried to lead the blind to the right path.Fast forward to now, and people use him as an image of everything opposite. People push their hatred and bigotry forward while claiming to love him and his teachings. People pretend to be Christians on 4chan constantly while posting hanging trans wojaks or calling people niggers or faggots, all of which are objectively sinful in the eyes of the person they claim to love (and will go on to tell you they're "praying for you").I just wonder how it came to be about this way. Because by everything we know, Jesus would be very accepting and loving of everyone, including all the people so many Christians fervently hate, including all the LGBT/Jews/blacks/liberals/vaxxed whatever people there are out there. I don't have the best understanding of this stuff so I'm trying to learn more about it. Just digging in a little bit so far, but even at the surface it starts to break down quickly
>>18011957No but they share tactics.
>>18011451He shaved an adulteress from being stoned only to warn here to repent and never do that sin again: because otherwise eternal hellfire would had been her punishmentHe was ofc open to any sinner to redeem themselves: but anyone treathening Hell on a woman for fucking someone other that wasnt her husband cannot be considered a "liberal"
>>18011622>and I accept the arguments that most of the anti-woman content in the New Testament is a later imposition by forgers and interpolators. Though I do think Patriarchy might be a decent Nigga thinking the Holy Book is not the perfect, divine source of God's dogmas disqualify yourself from being a Christian
>>18011646Bishops (you know, the actuall litterall successors of the Apostoles) have to renounce any inheritance or family. They live entirely over the collective good of the Church
>>18012084>>18011538Got all kinds of people in this thread who never met Jesus telling people how to hate others in his name.
I find Basilideanism interesting. It's the original form of reverse Christianity/Satanism. Well it is generally classified as a Christian sect by historians, specifically of the Gnostic variety. It's even thought that the holiday of Epiphany originated in the liturgical practices of the Basilideans of Alexandria that later became a pan-Christian festival. The Basilideans understood themselves as a post-Christian movement, transcending Christianity and Judaism, and their exegesis of Psalm 2:4 lead them to a substitutionary belief about Jesus's crucifixion which eventually found its way into Islam later on (compare Psalm 2:4 to Irenaeus's account of Basilidean beliefs in Against Heresies, Book I, Chapter 24).They basically worshiped a unique deity called Abraxas, the Great Archon, whom they regarded as the god of the OT. At first he was ignorant, and sinful, but was enlightened by his Son, the Christ, and repented after he came to the knowledge of the one true God above him and the Holy Spirit. This information was the transmitted to the lower archons, and eventually reached Jesus at his baptism when Christ descended on him. The gospel was then spread to humanity. Abraxas, originally a Satanic and adversarial figure, was believed to have been redeemed by the gospel and worship of him through Jesus Christ lead to union with the one true God. They regarded the one true God as nothingness itself, and were in some sense atheistic, but in reality were more so nihilist and pantheistic, since they believed that ultimately there was no being at all, everything is really nothing. God does not exist, because God is not, and nothing exists, because everything is non-being. The universe, for Basilideans, was simply one evolutionary stage of nothingness. Some other unique features of the Basilideans was their practice of magic, their rejection of martyrdom as a legitimate Christian practice, and their denial of the general resurrection of the dead.
See this is the shit I'm always talking about. Why couldn't this type of cool mystical wizardy Christianity have become "orthodox"? No instead we get the single most fucking BORING rendition of the religion. The most basic cookie-cutter bullshit sect had to be the one to go """"mainstream""""". This just proves the point that literally NOTHING HAPPENS.
>>18011621damn that rules. good post OP
>>18011634You would literally be saying the same exact thing if it was reversed though...>THIS ABRAXAS SHIT IS SO BORING WHAT ABOUT THAT TRINITY HERESY! WOAAH EXOTIC AND MYSTICAL WOAAAHHH
>>18011721No I would be battling trinies as heretics.
Electrons all share the same fundamental properties. If x shares all the same properties as y and if y shares all the same properties as x then x=y. However, though every electron shares all the same fundamental properties, individual electrons are distinguished by their relations i.e. differences in momentum, position, entanglement, etc. Here we see a real world example of how something can be one in nature, but distinct relationally. It's really not that hard to grasp the notion that something can be one, but also many at the same time. A river is one body of flowing water, but is constituted of individual water particles.
>>18011752>Electrons share all the same fundamental properties precisely because being an electron is predicated of their particulars.That doesn't mean electrons are one and many at the same time, because when you say "the electron is one" you are referring to the universal, and when you say "there are many electrons" and that they are distinguished by relations, here you are referring to particulars rather than the universal. So, implying that through this example the same thing is "both one and many" is what we call equivocation between the predicated universal (which is singular) and the non-predicated particulars (which are plural), itself a kind of category error.In this case the same thing is not both singular and plural at the same time, rather the universal is singular and the particulars are plural, but they aren't the same thing, and are not even in the same category of thing.This isn't what is asserted by the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. That doctrine says much more. It is not a case of comparing a universal to particulars, or equivocating between those two categories.It is saying that there are three Persons which each fully embody the one substance of God. The single, triune essence (or substance) of God, AND each of the Persons who are fully God, are standalone and can be referred to. There isn't any way to draw an analogy simply because nothing else is triune. No created thing is triune either, only the uncreated God is triune according to the Bible. There is only this example to refer to, if by divine revelation through the Scriptures, the assertion of the Holy Trinity is accepted, which I do accept.>The hypostases instantiate the ousia, but it is not as if they are particulars in the concrete, material sense, as individual electrons might be. This is where I know my analogy fails. I do not claim it to succeed to this extent.Yeah I agree with this.
>>18011794>So, implying that through this example the same thing is "both one and many" is what we call equivocation between the predicated universal (which is singular) and the non-predicated particulars (which are plural), itself a kind of category error.I am not conflating between primary substance and its form, my point is that individual electrons are one in the sense that they participate in the form, while also being distinct concrete actualizations of it. In this sense, the substances are many in the sense that they are individual concrete things, and we distinguish them because of their relations, and they are one in the sense that they share in the same substantial form. I clearly distinguished between the two without ambiguity and I never made the claim that the universal itself is numerically the same as the particular. Basically, you are straw manning my analogyAgain, I understand that this is not perfectly applicable to the Trinity as the relations in the Godhead are not accidental to it, nevertheless, it serves as a good analogy because electrons are distinguished by their relata even as we distinguish the members of the Trinity by the way in which each hypostasis relates.
>>18011131>>18011227>>18011727>>18011752>>18011829
>>18011845Christianity is all about asserting the approved kinds of propositions. You're a heretic if you think proposition A is true while I think proposition A is false.
>>18011187Enjoy jahannam.
I went into this hoping to get a historical perspective on the austro-hungarian empire. Instead it is a Jew talking about how he's a Jew and about how him and the other Jews lived, and then were hard done by because non-Jews don't have the intellect to appreciate how lucky they are to have Jews in control of industry and banking and the media.Within a few pages I realized that his perspective is absolutely saturated with Jewishness and I thought that the book is still worth reading because it might lighten my perspective on God's chosen people, who to be perfectly honest don't come across well.It didn't. Instead it just provides an insight into how they think. Let me summarize: there are Jews. Jews have particular qualities, chief among them being really smart and industrious and deserving of their position in society. There is Austria, whose culture is served by Jews. Austria is lucky that there were Jews to make is so grand.I can't belive the arrogance of these people. They are even worse here than they seem in modern times.
>>18012072>ZweigHe wrote a book on Joseph Fouché, one of the protagonists of the French Revolution, whom I consider to be one of the most interesting historical figures. One reason I didn't read it is because the author is Jewish, the other is that it's an old book.
>>18012079Unless the book is in olde English why would you not read an old book?
jews are so self-obsessed they don't even realize how overt it is, kind of like 'jeet arrogance
Trvke?
>>18009670I agree with this book solely because it helped me get a good grade during a high school history exam
TRVKE!!!!!!!
>>18009670Perhaps
>>18009670Yes
>>18009670Parenti, like all communist, lacks the ability to see any event through the eyes of any other belief system, culture, or religion. Communisms status as pseudo-science to its followers always acts as a handicap for them because of this. That being said, its is a good book on the Populaire-Optimate divide in Rome at the time and he doesnt fall into lionizing Caesar as perfect.
After debunking the 9/11 hoax, it will be time to debunk the Moon landing hoax
there is no Moon landing hoax. you can cope as much as you want about that
>the rich and poor...>...don't get along.That's it?I thought there'd be more to dialectical materialism after it being hyped for so long.
>>18010529They're often abstracted completely from these economic realities and forge their own.
Oh boy, a Marx thread full of people who have never read a single page of Marx!
>>18012001what is a structure then
>>18012010You don't need to read Marx to understand Marxism.Just like you don't need to read fascists to understand Fascism. The same with Capitalism.
>>18012010Your ideology is really not as deep as you think it is.
What historical girl do you fantasize about saving?
She is a symbol of the Holocaust’s lost youth and literary voice. If she survived and published later, her testimony might alter postwar memory politics even more profoundly.
>>18008381DON'T SMOKE THAT CIGARETTE
Prophet Amos> Dismantled Judaism, per Divine Declaration in Amos Ch: 5> Murdered by the son of Amaziah, a priest from Bethel> Jews were banished from Israel by God for all eternity and Judaism was to be forgotten---> Later "Prophet" Ezra randomly declared "lol God was just kidding, we can go back, also we are meant to reclaim everything, also no one has a copy of the original scrolls so let me claim I can re-write them all from memory, trust me bro lol" [makes up the "bible" we have today single-handedly]> Yohanan ben Zakkai says Bible isn't important anymore, we can question and even debate God, lets write the Talmud to find loopholes in morality and invent Rabbicicial or "argumentative" religion to be biased and selfish as fuck> Medieval period mercury-drinking fucks invented Zionism and Third Temple prophecy nonsense fueling Middle East nonsense and Evangelical retardation for centuries
>>18008381Sporus, she deserved better.
>>18008381Gidgit
Why didn't this turn into a good city?
>>18011671Lack of representation in congress.
Made the mistake of crossing the AnacostiaNever cross the Anacostia
>>18011671filled with blacks
>>18011671Northern charm, Southern efficiency.
>>18011671It was never intended to be. It is an administrative unit that has a specific functional purpose and has never needed to be anything other than that
Were Canaanites really that wicked or did we all fell from ancient Israeli propaganda?
>>18008022Some of the Hebrew Bible is probably influenced by historical events, but most of it is a moral narrative.
>>18011485Is the New Testament also allegorical? What do you believe is historical part?
>>18011511The Jesus depicted in the Bible was definitely a real person, and some teachings like aphorisms may reflect actual sayings of him, but I'm not stupid enough to actually believe this man walked on water and rose from the dead.
>>18011756So you are not a Christian. You don't believe in the creeds. Not saying this as a slight to you, I'm not either, but you deny the resurrection which is kinda the point of orthodox Christianity.
>>18006917And you're absolutely certain it was actually God who commanded it? Why?
>invades your steppe>kills the men>impregnates the women>steals your cattle>spreads his language>refuses to elaborate>leaves.
>gets cockblocked by forested europe >fumbles around in the balkans for a millennia >CWC conquer europe and invent spoked wheels >get exterminated in your homeland by sintasha aryans
>>18011284Yamnaya was identical to CWC
>>18011303Yamnaya explosion originates from the insular survival extremism of the eroding Doggerbank, and they did not replace the CWC because they were already on good established terms with them on how marriage and trade of human capital was to be conducted.The Yamnaya were the branches of maritime & steppe hypermobile ancestries of the north & black seas coalescing after the social collapse of the previous atlantic traderoutes.
>>18011660Irrelevant to my statement, yamnaya was identical to CWC.Now, if CWC was directly derived from Yamnaya, we can discuss, of course, but treat both as different is pretty lazy.
>>18011284It's Over.
I’m going to post this every day until you remember it
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>>18010017What is it?
Limestone?
>>18010017when are you going to stop hiding whats in the basement?
