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If Bismarck had done everything the same, except not annexed Alsace-Lorraine, could the hatred between France and Germany been avoided, and France at least kept neutral while Germany attempted to conquer Eastern Europe in a "WWI but try to convince France to sit it out" scenario?
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>>18523973
>So your argument is just that they were anti-HRE in the 17th century and switched to an anti-British policy in the 18th?
It's not an argument it's a fact.
Every single great war in the 18th century was fought against Britain with maybe one rare exemption, and every geopolitical decision was made with the intention to undermine British influence.

>I don't see how that contradicts mine.
Because they're not focusing on HRE anymore. Not a single fuck was given.

> Obviously the French defeat of the HRE
HRE doesnt freaking exist like that you absolute donkey. It's not a state. It's not a united entity. Name me a single war where HRE has fought united against a common enemy. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. You dont know what HRE was so stop pretending. Everything you say reveals this. They were fighting to oppose Habsburg influence, which came from its seat in Spain. Stupid fucking amerimutt. Stick to civil war history.

>is what opened the door for them to compete with England in the colonial sphere.
And why should they bother with a English rivalry if according to you their foreign policy was obssessing about German states? Shouldnt they be focusing on Austria then?
Do you even realise that Austria was the main ally of France during this time period? How does that serve your argument?
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>>18523985
>It's not a state. It's not a united entity
You're half-right in the sense it wasn't a modern nation state, but neither was France at the time. Modern nation states are a product of the French Revolution and prior to that states were simply a collection of lords and vassalages.
>Do you even realise that Austria was the main ally of France during this time period
Their ally against Prussia, because balancing the Prussian/Austrian rivalry is what became important to France after the 30 years war.
Again, I will ignore the low effort insults out of consideration for you but if you keep this up I fear that any attempt at understanding between us will be completely fruitless.
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I see you've finally stopped replying. Very well. I won't be insolent enough to declare victory, to be honest I'm just happy I don't have to engage with this nonsense any longer. That was perhaps the most worthless conversation I've ever had, but I suppose your ability to draw it out was admirable. Good day.
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>>18523800
And now Germany is reunited and a total dud, what a waste of a century.
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>>18524207
Well to be fair, France is also a dud. Everyone lost to America

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How did the Anglo ruling class develop such an extreme (to the point of genocidal) hatred of their working classes? Rich and powerful anglos almost seem gleeful at the sight of their poorer kin be disenfranchised, demoralized, driven to desperation, or even killed.
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>>18514292
Where did you get this from?
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>>18520770
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>>18520082
>. The billionaires, are the ones flooding this country with bro
They aren't upper class. Only people with hereditary noble titles are upper class.
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>>18516417
frankly the modern british aristocracy barely retains any of the true historical antipathy aristocracies had for their subjects, no doubt due to the fact they've spent the past two centuries being forced to mingle with the nouveau riche simply to survive. that's not to say there's no classism but it would be on par with what a rich old(ish) money american would display too
honestly a 3rd generation chaebol or chinese young master would have far greater contempt for the common folk than them nowadays.
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>>18520089
>The upper class and the working class famously get on with and respect each other
They famously don't hahaha wtf are you smoking you stupid cunt
Thatcher is the epitome of Middle Class Golem who is glorified and showered with rewards by the upper class, she got a fucking Baroness title and state funeral for fucks sake. Meanwhile if you praise Thatcher in northern England or Scotland or Wales, you'll get a broken nose.
>>18520114
You must be American

Japanese always beat amerimutt pigs into submission.
Why is the historical cause of this?
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>>18523665
What about that one time with the... you know... and then... now Japan isn't allowed to really have a military anymore so they focus on the entertainment industry instead... yeah... lol.
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>>18523665
>if your enemy nukes you, you win
>t. Jasuten Churudou
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>>18523665
Based
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>>18523665
>glorious Nippon arwuys beat amerimutt pigs into submisson.
Wii is the historicaro cause of this?

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If various European people groups really had proto-writing from as far back as 40,000 years all the way to the neolithic "Old Europe" / Vinčan settlements, why did they never invent writing? Were they truly incapable? Is there evidence to the contrary? Are runes the best they could do?
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>>18523114
This seems like a non-answer to me. "In those days"... in what "days"? Contemporary civilizations invented writing. Writing is obviously an extremely useful tool. There'd have been PLENTY of things to write about that I'm sure were simply passed down earlier.

Now sure, maybe Europeans really were just so spread out and tribalistic that writing didn't spread in the same way as it did in other places around the world. That would definitely be a welcomed truth. Though if there is evidence of that, I haven't found it yet.

Could there have been a conscious effort among those people groups to NOT write things down? That doesn't seem reasonable, yet the fact that there is no independently developed European writing system at all is likewise baffling.
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>>18524087
>Could there have been a conscious effort among those people groups to NOT write things down?
Possibly. The Vedas in India were and still are traditionally passed down orally because they believed the sounds possessed spiritual value so writing them down would limit their power. The oldest myths and poetry we know of today have their origin in oral cultures where illiterate bards composed songs and stories, most of them extemporaneous and so without the need or use for writing. Writing only started for recording long boring lists and numbers by merchants and traders, not as a way to preserve stories, laws, morality, myths or other cultural ideas. And oral culture was a huge thing in most civilizations until relatively recently when literacy became widespread.
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Indo europeans had a god of writing ogmios/hermes which indicates they probably had writing. It would have mainly been used for religious purposes by the priest class.
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>>18522153
Greeks did but they forgot it.
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>>18522153
>why did they never invent writing?
They did.

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Why is the church evil in japanese media? Is it a reversal of the yellow peril trope?
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Probably because the Church, as the Japanese experienced, it was an insidious influence that corrupted the populace by turning them against their gods and their proper rulers, and sowed political division throughout the land wherever it gained a foothold, and forced Japanese people to kneel before foreign priests to beg for absolution?

There's a reason the Japanese were suspicious, and ultimately outlawed Christianity. They could see it for the tool of control and deception that it was.
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>>18523827
latinx powerscalling countries gives me an aneurysm.
>HURR DURR EYY ESE UM EL GEE DEE PEE SII AMIGO AND ULL MINIMUS 1 POINT DIFRENCE EYYY
i cannot find words to describe the hate i feel for latinxroaches. even if there were, they would not be enough. they would not even be a quarter of the hate i feel. there is no bigger mistake in the planet than latinxes: useless, take up space, take up breathing air, are loud, stupid, obnoxious, and active obstacle, derail things, produce auditive contamination, won't let a retarded braindead religion die, are squatting over precious ruins and former high cultures, are squatting over *current* high cultures; what is worse in this planet than the latinx? your mere existence is a disgrace
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>>18521016
>Borderline
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>>18522762
YHWH the rapist god doesn't sound like the father of Jesus
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>>18520257
They hated him because he told the truth.

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In what world is there infinite wine, but not infinite bread?
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>>18524112
A good one

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>reading about Serbian shenanigans pre-1914
>slowly starting to think the Austrians were completely justified in finally snapping and chimping out on them
Genuinely these cunts were playing with fire too much- would any other country tolerate having a hostile nationalist cabal constantly funding terrorists and funnelling arms into your territory to purposefully stir the pot and provoke a war?
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>>18524041
Serbs only exist because of Russian interventionism and imperialism.

In Terry v. Ohio (1968) the Supreme Court ruled that police can stop and frisk a suspect they have reasonable suspicion was involved in a crime and it does not violate the 4th Amendment. On Halloween 1963, Cleveland PD detective Martin McFadden was conducting a plainclothes patrol in the downtown of the Ohio city. McFadden, 62, was a veteran cop with many decades of service; he had joined the CPD all the way back in 1924, was promoted to detective in 1928, and had been on the same beat hunting down shoplifters and pickpockets since 1933. On this fall afternoon, he observed John Terry and Richard Chilton on Huron Road and Euclid Avenue. Terry peered into a shop window, walked a few paces down the street, came back, and peered in the window again. He did this a couple of times after which Chilton did the same. A third man joined them and the three headed towards the store.
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The Supreme Court agreed to hear the case, Terry being the petitioner as Chilton had since died, and ruled 8-1 that it was allowable for a police officer to pat down a suspect if he has reasonable suspicion that he has a weapon and is, did, or could commit a crime. Chief Justice Warren wrote the majority opinion. He argued that seizure of a weapon during a pat down was not unreasonable under the 4th Amendment. It was probable that some police actions did violate the 4th, but that did not render it responsive to the exclusionary rule. Warren added that it was not disputed that police sometimes engaged in undue harrassment of minority groups, especially African-Americans, and this would not be prevented by excluding evidence from a trial. Yet a rigid application of the exclusionary rule may result in many unnecessary injuries and make it difficult for police to perform their duties.
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Merely walking down a street corner and peering into a store window would not in of itself be cause for suspicion, but the actions of Terry, Chilton, and Katz were certainly unusual and it was within reason for an experienced burglary detective to suppose they were up to no good, especially the reactions and body language of the three when confronted by McFadden and their refusal to give their names. FBI statistics showed that 57 police officers in the United States were killed in the line of duty during 1966 and there were also 23,851 assaults on officers with 9,113 resulting in an injury to the officer. Of the 57 officer fatalities in 1966, all but two died of gunshot wounds. A total of 335 officers were killed since 1960.

Justice Douglas dissented and argued that it was not disputable that the search had violated the 4th Amendment. He thought McFadden had no reason to suppose they had any ill intent and the men were not arrested or charged with burglary or robbery, but merely for concealed weapons.
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>>18523742
>>18523744
so were they black or not?
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>>18523747
>Warren added that it was not disputed that police sometimes engaged in undue harrassment of minority groups, especially African-Americans, and
Being Earl Warren, of course he had to go there. Of course.
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>>18523742
pretty sure nowadays it's standard for cops to retire at 55. guess it was different back then.

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Generally speaking, who tends win more debates on /his/ about theism, theists or atheists? Has the internet really vindicated theism or is new atheism still a movement to be a part of?

https://strawpoll.com/QrgewKmvQyp
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"New Atheism" was never much of a unified thing apart from atheism in itself, so you can't say really say that it fell or didn't fall. Theists just really like having the label around so they can assert that some variety of atheism fell, died, is in terminal decline, etc. and jump for joy on its imaginary corpse. (Meanwhile actual atheism has only been increasing.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism
>Dawkins writes in the introduction to the 10th anniversary edition of the book: "I don't object to the horseman label, by the way. I'm less keen on 'new atheist': it isn't clear to me how we differ from old atheists."
>Thomas Zenk likewise argues that New Atheism is an umbrella term rooted in public discourse and cautions against using it uncritically as an analytical category; he also notes that the label does not necessarily correspond to the self-identification of those to whom it is applied
>In the context of international politics, the principles of New Atheism establish no particular stance in and of themselves. P. Z. Myers stated that New Atheism's key proponents are "a madly disorganized mob, united only by [their] dislike of the god-thing".
>Tom Flynn, editor of Free Inquiry, wrote that the only "new" thing about New Atheism was the wider publication of atheist material by big-name publishers, books that appeared on bestseller lists and were read by millions.
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>>18522890
>>18522893
about 30% of the US are religiously unaffiliated about about two thirds of that group (so 20% of the overall population) claim it's because they don't believe in God
>When asked directly why they are not religious, two-thirds of “nones” say they question a lot of religious teachings or don’t believe in God.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/

Also, theism and spiritualism isn't growing among gen Z. Gen Z is the most atheistic generation ever. About one-half of Gen Z identity as atheist or agnostic
https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/generation-z-future-of-faith/

I think a lot of the theists are older people while the younger are more atheistic.

Also, around the world, Christianity is the fastest dying religion. There are about 6 apostates for every convert overall
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/03/26/around-the-world-many-people-are-leaving-their-childhood-religions/
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>>18522910
>religiously unaffiliated
That's not the goalpost you set. In >>18522884 you specifically write " increase the rate of atheism". Religiously unaffiliated people are not overwhelmingly atheists, see picrel.

>spiritualism isn't growing among gen Z
Spiritualism alone is. The source you provide doesn't address it, it focuses on Christian institutions for the most part.

>6 apostates for every convert overall
That is not "overall", that is the net score for the US. Worldwide, Christianity will be the number one religion for a while.
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>>18518653
>Literally no one on 4chan defends trannies.
Are you aware that there is a board dedicated to all sorts of faggotry and sodomy?
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>>18522853
I mean, for the last two centuries Active Atheism existed anywhere that didn't have blasphemy laws, like the United States. They weren't popular or even very succesful, but they certainly existed.

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Italian?
Greek?
Turk?
Slav?
Arab?
Aryan?
White niggas of Europe?
Jews of Europe?
Med?
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>>18525101
>haplobabble he says
You don’t want to know your forefathers. Serbs are literal Turkish, Anatolian and Kavkaz rape babies. Serbs are fucking mutts.
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>>18524797
>It's around 3.9%
>B-BUT IT'S ACTUALLY5%!!!!!
It actually isn't, buddy, if it's 3.9%, then it's 3.9%, and you auto-refuted yourself in front of everyone, like a retard.

>How the fuck are Serbs not Turkish rape babies
Because none of the Y-DNA in question is Turkish, and all of it predates the arrival of the Slavs, these people were Romanized Paleo-Balkanites by the time the Slavs conquered and Slavicized them.

>>18524811
Serbs have next to zero Turkish DNA. You, on the other hand, are 20% Slavic Y-DNA nationally and, in many regions, 30-35% (as shown in your DNA project's DNA map). One more thing, buddy, since your funny people are claiming to be the Illyrian Peninsula and shit, daily reminder that the Slavs rape-mogged you to death by denting your lineages by 50% on one of the biggest landmasses in Europe, lol. And as you can see, there's next to zero Anatolian Turkish DNA on the peninsula.

>>18525101
Albanians are among the brownest people in the Mediterranean, and short.
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>>18525143
No shitstain, read again, I literally used largest Serbian dna database shitskin retard. Serbs have Turkish YDNA at 5%, Q 0.45%, N 3.3% and R1a-z93 at least 1%. That’s 5% of Turk daddy genes in your bloodline.
>you are 20% slavshit
I2a-din and R1a are combined only 12% of gheg Albanians. Obviously it’s higher for tosks, I feel sorry for them. 7/10 Albanian gheg men have Illyrian and Thracian YDNA. Tosk just 1/2.


Serbs are browner than Albanians by far, way more Turkish dna, way more J2a and general gypsy phenotype.
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>>18525154
Trivial upset Serb got BTFO. I used Serbian, Albania and Turkish dna projects.
Serbs
>1.2% J1
>9% J2a
>5% N,Q,R1a-Z93
Albanians Ghegs
>1.5% J1
>2.9% J2a
>0.1% N,Q,R1a
Turkish Anatolian
>7.17% J1 (to be fair only 2.8% is specific Semitic PF58 mutation found in all J1 in Serb and Albanians)
>18.59% J2a
>24% N,Q,R1a-Z93
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>>18525164
Here’s a good link for collective BTFO of Serbian roots https://boards.4chan.org/his/thread/18525120/serbian-dna-project-5584-males#top

What was God doing here?
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>>18516645
We killed all the dinos even the ones from after the flood with pitbull like fights.
God gave us the coolest shit and we ruined it.
It was pretty chocking to discover that evolution is a lie made up by a fag mad at God.
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>>18522018
God could have made physics whatever ways he wanted to, to allow for whatever base pairs he wanted to
God is not a theory, because God equally predicts everything
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>>18523972
>evolution is a lie
Retard
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>>18524014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew_cNONhhKI
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>>18521928
>They probably keep the real ones safekept for research purposes.
Yeah? This isn't some kind of conspiracy or secret, the bones you see in museums are replicas. They're not trying to hide it because there literally is nothing to hide.

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>Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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>>18524024
>rational empathy doesn't exist
>I only refrain from murdering and raping because I was given explicit instructions from my imaginary friend
Thanks for the insight into the religious mind. You lot should be locked up.
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>>18524034
>>18524024
Atheist morality is just Utilitarian morality, which is pretty much the moral framework of the modern world. Religion isn't strictly required for this.
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>>18524034
>Invokes religion
>>18524036
>Invokes personal preference
>>18524037
>Invokes personal preference
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>>18524038
How is utilitarian morality evoking personal preference?
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>>18524040
Because utilitarianism is what a group of people arbitrarily decided is "good"

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>be religious
>tell people to study the Bible
>actually study the bible
>become an atheist in all but name
why does this keep happening?
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>>18523674
Oh but its definitely how it works. If you adhere to scripture then your beliefs must reflect that, otherwise you're a retard with ulterior motives. Ever notice that only Christians will forgive you for your transgressions but you back off in the face of Islam? We could learn a thing or two from them.
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>>18523726
>dumbass rural people
As sphincter says what pal? You some kind of scarf wearing mocha drinkin vinyl collecting homosexual or something?
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>>18523931
What are you talking about?
First of all, I tell muslims that muhammad was a false prophet and a pedophile all the time
secondly, no it isn't how it works. There are plenty of people who believed in christianity but then came to realize it isn't true.
You're just retarded.
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>>18523936
Okay, now go to Saudi Arabia and do that. You don't have the guts.
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>>18523634
He was asked what his favorite Bible verse was on TV and whether or not he preferred the New or Old Testament and he couldn't give a straight or honest answer because he never actually read the Bible before that. He's a performative Christian, nothing but a conman

I'm thinking of reading this book but I'm suspecting the author might be Jewish. Wikipedia doesn't say so but it seems like je's made 6 books before who're mostly about Jews/Jewish events, which is alarming.
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>>18523986
>Wikipedia doesn't say
It does though.
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>>18523987
shit I knew it, didn't know what bar mitzvah is and didn't bother to click, my bad

I can't stand Americans talking about history

>London had disgusting sewer systems, sure they modernized them in the 1860's but some areas hadn't been updated yes so ew gross what a third world shithole!

they act like 100 years is a long time, think that the whole world comes in three time periods
1. ancient history-war of independence
2. pre WW2
3. Modern era

And they just make shit up
>yeah the stairs in this 1000 year old castle are uneven because they wanted invaders to trip over
no, that's literally rear from 100's of years of people going up and down the stairs

And they always have this weird contempt for people from 100+ years ago, boiling them down to stereotypes without agency.
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>>18523974
>londanistan historic revisionism
even worse
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>>18523977
Jews invented British cuisine, plain and simple. Shan't be giving you credit for anything.
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>>18523970
>I can't stand Americans
That's all you needed to say
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>>18523980
no wonder its fucking shit then
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>>18523983
Raising your rent now O'Derbyshire. How dare you insult my people's cuisine. We invented the Beatles with Brian Epstein.


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