Italy 700 B.C.E vs India 700 B.C.EThey both look the same but how come theres such a giant gap in achievements?
>B.C.E.Opinion discarded.
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>>18726754good bait>>18726837opulent
>>18726754Gemany 42,000 BC. Why did it take India so long?
>>18727239t. Nigger.
Chris Wickham has passed away. Enormous loss for medieval studies.Let's honor him by discussing his body of work.
>>18732589Well it wasn't, but the cultural and genetic purge of everything Roman was necessary for human progress to finally pick up again.
I like reading through thick and heavily materialist history books. Think I learned something from that guy.F.
>More generally Wickham worked under a modified Marxist framework
>>18732589I thought it was termed the "dark ages" mostly because of a lack of sources, and the conflation of this term with regression and stagnation is mostly from anglophone pop history who noticed that one could say that the British isles regressed during this period but later applied this to the rest of Europe misguidedly. Am I wrong?Also there really isn't anything inherently wrong with revisionism. Old historical models get revised all the time.
>>18733121Of course there is nothing "wrong" with revising models that are inaccurate. That is the very premise of the scientific approach. But not infrequently historical revisionism simply means reframing the past to fit the political sensibilities of the current era.
I know this sounds like a provocation, but it's a genuine question. What was their actual color and appearance? I saw some reconstructions in a museum at my university, and some of them were very, very dark. Does that make sense, considering their habitat? I always assumed they looked more like modern global populations individuals who lived further north tended to have lighter skin. Unfortunately, I remember the controversy involving the Western Hunter-gatherers Group (WHG), with those strange reconstructions that now many say portrayed Mesolithic Europeans as "blue-eyed black people" or something similar. But their skin was tan or olive.
>>18732801>how the fuck do you not know that while you try to lecture people on this shitshit fuck up, maggot. The amount of fossils containing usable DNA is extremely limited. To date, scientists have only been able to sequence the genome of a few dozen individuals.>>18732491>>18732442Neanderthals who lived in Central and Eastern Europe possessed gene variants such as BNC2. This gene is linked to light skin, increased sensitivity to the sun, and the appearance of freckles. In fact, about 70% of modern Europeans inherited this version of the gene from them. The OP's reconstruction is disgusting.>Here, we show that Neanderthal DNA affects skin tone and hair color, height, sleeping patterns, mood, and smoking status in present-day Europeans. Interestingly, multiple Neanderthal alleles at different loci contribute to skin and hair color in present-day Europeans, and these Neanderthal alleles contribute to both lighter and darker skin tones and hair color, suggesting that Neanderthals themselves were most likely variable in these traits.Shut fuck, Larps.
>>18732357>>18732932I rest my case
>>18732945https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929717303798Btw this is for you.>>18732801>However, evaluating the broader contribution of Neanderthals to common phenotypic variation in modern humans, or inferring Neanderthal phenotypes, has not been possible largely because of the limited number of studies that collect genotype data together with common phenotype informationbut there are interesting things>Twofurther archaic haplotypes on chromosomes 6 (chr6:45,533,261–45,680,205, overlapping RUNX2 [MIM: 600211]) and 11 (chr11: 89,996,325–90,041,511; nearest gene: CHORDC1 [MIM: 604353]) are both significantly associated with lighter skin color (Table 1). The apparent variation in the phenotypic effects of Neanderthal alleles in this cohort demonstrates that it is difficult to confidently predict Neanderthal skin and hair color
>>18732893>all sorte of techniques one can use to stay warmlol no, you need actual clothing to survive and function in a winter environment, unless you've got thick hair all over like Neanderthals.
>>18732249the Jews create fake reconstructions. tread carefully
French soldiers committed mass rape against Spanish women and massacred Spanish civilians in Medina de Rio Seco and Chinchon.https://www.napolun.com/mirror/napoleonistyka.atspace.com/cruel_war_in_Spain.html#spain12French soldiers massacred and mass raped Spanish underage girls and women at Tarragona.https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/60390/pg60390-images.html#FNanchor_28British soldiers raped Spanish girls and women at Badajoz after liberating it from Francehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Badajoz_(1812)#RampageFrench committed brutal atrocities against Portuguese in Torres Novas, Thomar, and Pernes, the convent Alcobaça, Leyriahttps://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington#1810sComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18731134>>18731152>>18731547>>18733117A British journalist during the 1857 Ningbo massacre openly said Chinese did not view Portuguese the same as other Europeans and were militarily capable of taking Macau, but feared the intervention of other western powers.>The fishermen and carrying junks, glad to be rid of the Portuguese yoke, gradually transferred their custom to the Cantonese fleet, and the Portuguese, hungry and furious, became more active in their piracies, and attacked the Cantonese ships when they could get them at an advantage, and murdered their crews with circumstances of great atrocity.>The Cantonese do not look upon the Portuguese as Europeans. They have not the same fear of them. They can fight them man to man. Macao would have been taken by the Chinese long since, had they not dreaded the interference of the other Western powers. After a few of these very sanguinary provocations, A'Pak-not, it is believed, without the concurrence of the Toutai of Ningpo determined to destroy this Portuguese convoy fleet>For this purpose A'Pak's brother collected his snake-boats and convoy junks from along the whole coast, and assembled about twenty of them, and perhaps 500 men. The Portuguese were not long hearing of these preparations, but they seem to have been struck with panie. Some of their vessels went south, some were taken at the mouth of the river. Seven lorchas took refuge up the river, opposite the Portuguese consulate. The sailors on board these lorchas landed some of their big guns, and put the consulate in a state of defence, and perhaps hoped that the neighbourhood of the European houses and the character of the consulate would prevent an attack.>Not so
>>18731134>>18731152>>18731547>>18733122>On the day I have above mentioned the Canton fleet came up the river. The Portuguese consul immediately fled. The lorchas fired one broadside at them as they approached, and then the crews deserted their vessels, and made for the shore. About 200 Cantonese, accompanied by a few Europeans, followed these 140 Portuguese and Manilla-men ashore. A fight took place in the streets. It was of very short duration, for the Portuguese behaved in the most dastardly manner. The Manilla-men showed some spirit, but the Portuguese could not even persuade themselves to fight for their lives behind the walls of their consulate. The fortified house was taken and sacked by these, Chinamen, the Portuguese were pursued among the tombs, where they sought refuge, and forty of them were shot down, or hunted and butchered with spears.15 out of 400 killed was virtually nothing, compared it to Qing battles against Britain in the Opium wars and France in the Sino-French war.The Qing force didn't disintegrate due to 15 deaths.The Qing only did not take Macau because the legations of Spain, UK and US were stationed in Macau, giving de facto international recognition to Portugal annexing Macau>By all these moves the mandarins—and the Chinese state—stood to lose significant revenue. The Chinese inhabitants of Macau were inflamed. Placards offering a reward for the head of Amaral were posted in Guangzhou (Canton).[2] The governor, however, had achieved his goal of Macanese independence from China: for the legations of Spain, the United Kingdom and the United States accredited to China had chosen to stay in Macau while awaiting permission to enter China.[3]Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18731134>>18731152>>18731547>>18733126Chinese pirates defeated Portuguese at that Ningbo massacre in 1857 and the Portuguese consul secretly backing the pirates openly fled and the Portuguese navy vessel at the scene didn't dare assist the Portuguese pirates after the Chinese pirates warned it to back offAs I said, at Passaleão, 15 deaths was nothing.Qing forces took way more casualties against British and French forces before disintegration and routing.The Qing army chose not to storm Macau because UK de facto recognised the Portuguese annexation, not because of Portuguese military power.Portugal stopped paying rent and annexed Macau only in the 1840s after the first opium war.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18731134>>18731152>>18731547>>18733127The UK blocked Qing retaking of Macau because of the blow to morale foreign powers seeking extraterritorial rights in China would receive.Belgium, which similarity had zero power projection against China, received a concession in coastal China just by riding on the backs of the actual European powers like UK, France.Spain, Netherlands, Belgium and Portugal were the four European countries with zero hard military projection power against 19th century China.None of those four joined the 8 Nation Alliance in the 1900 Boxer rebellion, despite the Qing also declared war on them and attacking their legations too.They were also the countries that received historical defeats from China like Dutch at Pescadores, Liaoluo and Taiwan, Portuguese at Tamão and Veniaga and Spanish governor generals assassinations.They had to use the rights granted to UK and France who were the ones with actual projection.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18733135Spain, Netherlands did not participate in the Eigh Nation Alliance in 1900 despite Qing declaring war on them. They sent no troops in the Expeditionary force to Beijing.China defeated the Dutch East India Company in every single war, in Pescadores aka Penghu in 1622-1624, Liaoluo bay in 1633, Taiwan in 1661-1662 etc.Chinese civilians beheaded Spanish governor generals Gomez Pérez Dasmariñas in 1593 and his son Luis Pérez Dasmariñas in 1603Chinese threatening to invade the Philippins in 1662 forced Spain to withdraw all its soldiers from Maluku (Moluccas) in Indonesia forever and lost it, and from Zamboanga in Mindanao for decades.That's why they didn't join the Boxer war retard.
> Game has an obvious tutorial valley before the main partwhat other shit design is there in history?
>>18732808Nothing tutorialish about that dusty piece of shit
>>18732824Green Spain/Portugal is a lush paradise.
>>18732601That's where Sun Quan lives.
>>18731538Antarctica
Where we dropping?
A mutt mix of germanic, slavic, celtic, paleobalkan and roman in the heart of europe.
>>18732830Luxembourg should appreciate Imperial Germany instead declining with growing Portuguese population.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_(Belgium)
I have no problem with Austria joining the rest of Germany as long as Vienna remains the country's capital.
>>18732861>_(Belgium)Have you been to Brussels?
>>18732582What if Austria, Hungary, and Slovenia joined Italy instead?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria_(Lombard)https://ww1.habsburger.net/en/chapters/austria-and-italy-end-first-world-war-and-post-war-years
>>18732585That just tells us that Bavaria being part of Germany is an accident of history.
>be Olaf Tryggvason, pagan>convert to christianity because some old man told you>descendant of kings, chosen king by your pagan countrymen>start forcing christianity against the same brothers that made you king>forget about the whole "love your neighbor", "be like Jesus">forget that previous missionaries-saints claim that Odin was Archangel Saint Gabriel and Thor was Archangel Saint Michael >torture your fellow countrymen in the worst ways possible to expand your cult>be so cruel that even your christian allies prefer to be along pagans>be so cruel that a fellow christian, Adam of Bremen, wrote that you kill yourself as a godless loser instead of a christian martyrWhy and when did the Norse people begin to hate their own gods?Was christianity really that good compared to their native religion?Why didn't the Norse and Germanic peoples return to their native religion after Charlemagne and Olaf died?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
OP here. Odin = Vishnu
>>18732725>Was christianity really that good compared to their native religion?Even if this is true, just because something sounds good does not make it correct.>>18732962Christoid psyop
It’s amazing that Abrahamists seem generally incapable of seeing, or unwilling to see, that the creature is a dependent expression of God acting creature-wise. What’s the point in believing in God if you aren’t even going to allow yourself to see the obvious?The irony is that Abrahamic theology already insists the creature exists entirely through God. But many theologians resist extending that to dependence of action itself. It’s like watching a play but refusing to acknowledge the divine playwright.
>>18733064Calvinists don't and they have the most Biblically accurate view on salvation/damnation as a result.Ephesians 2:8-9>"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
>>18733103Nope, Calvinism still preserves distinct secondary agency. That’s not the same as collapse into one singular Act.
which time period and culture do you think would be the best to abduct a gf from?
>>18730881Imagine being the first moor bvll to impregnate a native
>>18731015>What if I had a white girlfriend?Stop projecting
it'd probably have to be an english speaking culture around the 1600s or we wouldn't be able to communicate
>>187308762026, Asian-"American"
>>18731015ew
If the Septuagint is older than the Masoretic, why do we use Bibles translated from the Masoretic? Why isn't the Septuagint more popular?
>>18732128Because Septuagint-onlyists are LARPers
>>18732128Because like with all decisions regarding judeochristian scripture it's just arbitrary what gets included or not, purely depending on the feefees of some old fart. Early Christians including the authors of the 4 gospels all used the Septuagint later Christians say they were wrong
>>18732135Religion is fundamentally LARP but in this case it’s better to use the book the original Christians we’re using rather a different book from a thousand years later written by a competing LARP group
bump
>>18732128The Catholic Latin Vulgate Old Testament is translated from another Hebrew text that is neither Masoretic nor the Hebrew text used by the Septuagint.Syrian church's use the Peshitta which is a Syriac translation.Samaritans have their own Hebrew Torah.
so which one is it according to christian /his/toriography?
>>18726933>>18726982Saul was a liar.
>>18732390A proper translation would be Judeans, since at that time people were called either after their ancestor, or after a place where they're from.
>>18726763The left one is correct. The right one is the cope from American protestants who also want to be white nationalists.
>>18732516>A proper translation would be Judeanslmao
>>18732518Goys will be goys
I used to rule the world.
>>18733041Still does in a way
Almost a hundred years ago, Oswald Spengler predicted that a new high culture, entirely separate from the West, would be born somewhere in the Eurasian steppe. He claimed that the Bolshevik revolution was a communist movement on the surface, but fundamentally an anti-Western movement that sought to throw off Western influence. (If you're not sure what I mean by "high culture" or "West", read a summary of Decline of the West.)Could his prediction still prove to be accurate? I'm not sure that Russia, or Slavs in general have much a future given their rock-bottom birth rates, brain drain to the West, and general societal dysfunction. What do you think?
>>18732158Anyway, sorry for the digression. My point was that there is no 'whether', a Russian high culture is going to happen, eventually. At least according to Spengler.
>>18732162Plus, it's facetious to establish a difference between feudal europe and current Russia. By our standards, the kingdom of France in 1200 would be a failstate.
By the way all of you should read "Contemporary Russia as a Feudal Society" by Vladimir Shlapentokh. It's almost twenty years old but it holds up very well for what it is trying to propose.
>>18731695nazis hated European values like Christanity, Universalism, Age of Enlightenment, Human Rights, old institutions, aristocracy, democracy etc, it was a revolutionary, anti-european, anti-west movement, just like Bolshevism
>>18732980Hitler was actually an incarnated Orisha. Few know this. #EsotericNiggerism
How do you hand over people to Satan?1 Corinthians 5:5>hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.1 Timothy 1:20>Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
I assume excommunication, but I do not know how that will ultimately save their spirits.
Why didn’t Alexander create a royal line of descendants where the eldest son becomes king of his empire after he dies like Genghis Khan did instead of dividing his empire amongst his 4 generals? Is he retarded?
>>18732151This.It’s not complicated. If he wasn’t assassinated by a mosquito, perhaps we’d all be speaking a modernised version of ancient Macedonian now, instead of Latin, French and a sprinkling of Greek in our discourse.
>>18732136Eh, Tolui was the only one with real talent and he died young>JochiWas always going to be a problem and not even a very good general>ChagataiThe worst of the bunch. Should have been left back home to look after the livestock>ÖgedeiDecent enough fellow, but drank too much
>>18732267Eumenes, but only because had no personal legitimacy
>>18732045>>18732095His god damn mother ruined everything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrNEcLgT1NE
>>18732267>>18732981Why didn't Pithon establish a kingdom in Atropatene, strategic place between west and east? His best option was to team up with Eumenes, but he fuck up and pay the price.
