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>"Did you just shittalk my pigeon fursona?"
>"Y'know i can live with people shittalking my Son (also Me) and regular Me, but that's over the line, pal."
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>>18698865
Nope. If Christ groomers are gonna prey on recruiting kids into their cult we have every right to mock them
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>why do you care? just let people enjoy their lives and enjoy your apostate life instead of being a seething nigger about christianity.
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>>18698863
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>>18698863
The Holy Spirit represents wisdom, to reject wisdom itself is unrecoverable ie you're a perma retard incapable of ever finding truth.
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>>18700897
Uber-Nietzschean zesty take: Christianity was forged from men who were deeply theological and philosophical. These men can be best categorized as falling for the prejudice of the philosopher. Putting all their eggs in their own made up basket of metaphysical wisdom. The Holy Spirit is the embodiment of this and to go against it challenges the underpinnings of the entire religion. Even more so the underpinnings of the entire metaphysical substructure the religion is embedded within (Platonic thought).

It always comes down to the same shit: It's all just metaphors that we forget are metaphors and believe we've stumbled upon some hidden metaphysical truth.

I've sucked a tranny cock before and I'm posting on 4chan so idk.

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Which one is more likely to result in a heavily pregnant Anne Frank?

https://strawpoll.com/polls/6QnM7Y5GAZe
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>>18696361

This
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>>18694963
Don't forget Dolly Parton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLs7KhcwxM8
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>>18698343

nice
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>>18699462
Remember her legacy.
https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/two-southerners-who-stayed-southern/

https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/dolly-parton-and-southern-endurance/
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>>18694963

idok

>be Julian
>blackpilled chud incel classical literature nerd
>forced to watch as Rome falls to the christcucks...
>becomes emperor through some very unlikely scufuckle chain of events
>wins one(1) battle, by reading the Gallic wars and just copying shit he saw Caesar do there
>legitimately comes to believe he is some Homero-Platonic hero of prophecy sent by the gods to save the world from darkness
>gives pagans primary status again, attempts to employ 9000 IQ keikaku samefagging strata to turn the christcucks against each other
>when the people of Antioch boo him he responds with an entire bookpost explaining why they're retarded and he is a Chad
>attempts to conquer Persia to prove he's greater than Alexander
>dies to an arrow-shot because he thought he had plot-armor so he was prancing around the frontlines without any protection
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>>18695104
He was a bit of a spas, yes, but that just makes me like this great hero even more
>>18695170
My wives
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>>18695221
He wanted to add YHWH as one of the gods in the Roman pantheon iirc.
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>>18700549
No he absolutely did not. Read any of his fucking writings.
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>>18695257
Just introduce atheism lol.
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>>18697416
They run out of soldiers not countries to conquer.

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We have /his/torical proof of miracles at the Temple in Jerusalem. The most recent known are reported by eight early sources, citing eyewitnesses and even physical evidence, which report miraculous fire and a star like a cross that marked clothes halting the Jews' and Emperor Julian's plan to rebuild the Israel Temple in 363 AD.

They report that the Temple couldn't be built by them because flames burst from its foundations, and there was an object in the sky like a cross that both marked and astonished the workmen.

First is Ammianus Marcellinus, a non-Christian contemporary of Emperor Julian. You can read his account here: https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0082%3Abook%3D23%3Achapter%3D1%3Asection%3D3 -

"terrifying balls of flame kept bursting forth near the foundations of the temple, and made the place inaccessible to the workmen, some of whom were burned to death; and since in this way the element persistently repelled them, the enterprise halted"

And Gregory Nazianzen, who knew Emperor Julian personally, wrote just months after the event according to https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/gregory_nazianzen_3_oration5.htm:
"But what is yet more strange and more conspicuous, there stood in the heavens a light circumscribing a Cross...Let those who were spectators and partakers of that prodigy exhibit their garments, which to the present time are stamped with the brandmarks of the Cross! For at the very moment that anyone, either of our own brethren or of the outsiders, was telling the event or hearing it told by others, he beheld the miracle happening in his own case or to his neighbour, being all spotted with stars, or beholding the other so marked upon his clothes in a manner more variegated than could be done by any artificial work of the loom or elaborate painting”.

There are six other sources, they all show: the God of this Temple is the true God, and he won't allow either Pagans or Jews to build His third Temple.
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>>18700157
What about that mosque that stands on the location of the former temple?
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>>18700773
Lots of things have stood on the site before and since. There's nothing special about the hill, it's simply stone and earth. The Temple is what is special.
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>>18700157
>We have /his/torical proof of miracles
no such thing can exist. what ancient people claimed and wrote has no weight against our everyday experience of no miracles whatsoever.
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>>18700702
>The necessary being is not just "anything" those are rather contingent existences and they could be otherwise.

The video's argument there applies to absolutely positively any category of existent thing. Necessary, contingent, even events. Absolutely everything is encompassed by it. There are and can never be any exceptions.

>That's a very restrictive definition of the law of noncontradiction

I invite a counterexample, if you're aware of one. What is something that can be known with logical certainty that does not ultimately boil down to "these are mutually exclusive and therefore mutually exclude"?

>aren't beings or things that exist outside of God's mind that is the point I am amking

It isn't some force than emanates from God's mind either. Even if nothing existed, a hypothetical like "if there was a rectangle it would not have seventeen sides" would be correct.

>How does this relate at all? If you swap the values you get no logical contradiction


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>>18700157
wrong

LINCOLN WASN’T FUCKING PLANNING TO SHIP EVERY FREED SLAVE TO AFRICA. HE SUPPORTED COLONIZATION EARLY ON, BUT HIS VIEWS CHANGED, AND BY 1865 HE WAS PUBLICLY SUPPORTING LIMITED BLACK SUFFRAGE. STOP PRETENDING HIS EARLY COLONIZATION VIEWS WERE SOME PERMANENT FUCKING PLAN TO DEPORT EVERY BLACK AMERICAN.
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>>18699221
Believing that enslaving dark hell-spawned demons morally corrupts God's children does not also mean believing that dark hell-spawned demons should have the rights of God's children.
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>>18699221
Which side was in favor of getting rid of them and fixing the country?
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>>18700271
Not the union, that's for sure
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>>18699221
Didn't he invite black delegation into the White House to inform them that American public wouldn't tolerate blacks and whites living under one government? And this being the first time a black person was invited into the White House ironically enough?

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The Watchtower says:

"we also read in the Bible of righteous people who became unrighteous. King Solomon is an example. He was thoroughly instructed in God’s ways and greatly blessed by Jehovah; yet, he later turned to worshipping false gods. His sins made Jehovah furious and brought consequences that lasted for centuries.
Resurrection is a gift from a loving God. He bestows it on those whom he wants to give an opportunity to serve him forever. (Job 14:13, 14; John 6:44) Will Solomon receive such a gift? Jehovah knows the answer; we do not. We do know, though, that Jehovah will do what is right."

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2024/Trust-in-the-Merciful-Judge-of-All-the-Earth/

What do you think will happen to Solomon ?
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>>18700840
The Watchtower protects child rapists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sexual_abuse
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>>18700840
>Queen of Sheba
>245–246 CE Jewish mural depicting Solomon's court and one labeled "co-chair" receiving the Queen of Sheba and her maidservant from the Dura Europos Synagogue

>Dura-Europos(?) Synagogue
>The word "Europe" started being used in the 6th century BCE as a geographical term by ancient Greek writers.
Greater Israel and "Europe has the values of the Talmud"?
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>>18700888
>[Then comes Dura, the city of Nicanor, a foundation of the Macedonians, called Europos by the Greeks.]

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The absolute state of Christianity
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>>18700848
I’ve seen Muslim family do this with Coca Cola. I got WhatsApp uncles saying that Coca Cola secretly means no Muhammad no Mecca.
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>>18700848
This are the people telling you there is evidence and reason to believe in God. Same people telling you what love and charity are.
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>>18700872
We should round them up and throw them to the lions and tigers or start crucifying them to accelerate the meeting with their god
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>>18700880
I agree

IQ and brain morphology studies have consistently proven that MENA people are cognitively inferior especially to populations like north europeans

So how did they have civilizations? Lucky circumstances? Some beneficiary social organization?
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>>18700415
I think conquering middle eastern people made romans and greeks do gay stuff
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>>18699152
>>afghanistan
>South Asian Aryans keeping the homosexual Corded Ware Twink traditions.
Only when Mesopotamian Taliban administration rules over them do they start acting normal. The second that goes away, they jump to molesting children.
Americans allowed them to go about it to secure their fickle loyalty against Taliban. One of their recruitment pitches for Afghan Security Forces traitors was allowing them to throw ""parties"" with boys as a.. "morale exercise"
>>18700421
Sincerely, can you show me any proof of this? Gays and all their derivatives as a class of people pop up in MENA only after Scythian invasion, and they imported their serpent/phallus worship from their homeland.
>>18700415
Iranians are the most successful case of indo-gypsies. They ransacked Mesopotamia and turned the cradle of civilization into a crumbling war state ran by an incestuous fire cult. They rewrote history and framed themselves as having a more dignified origin, but this was not difficult given that the English have a poor disposition to all non-indogypsy, except European Jewry, of course.
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>>18700415
Yes, the Corded Ware homosexual trannies main descendants are gay Europeans, Afghans, and Indians.

Europeans introduced homosexuality to the ancient Near East where it did not exist before.
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>>18700421
They were already homosexual like all Europeans and were the ones to spread their homosexuality just like Corded Ware did.
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>>18694898
civilization is built on morality, not on intelligence

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My culture under colonialism
>All our tribal and ancestral lands taken, never given back to this day.
>Language literally banned
>Kids grabbed from parents, shoved in residential schools, raped and turned into Christcucks, even tried to breed us out of existance.
>Culture systematically erased, to the point my parents and grandparents don't even know any words of the language beyond, meme words.
>Culture only survives today as a post-1970s reconstruction, and language has only started to be revived, as a largely reconstructed language, in the 2000s.
>As "Sorry" we get land acknowledgments and some, I admit generous welfare benefits if you know how to jump through all the hoops of the system.
Butthurt Belt under the USSR
>Lands were ethnically cleansed of colonists, making the natives once again the overwhelming majority of the population.
>Traditional Culture was protected under law and promoted heavily, native minority languages even got their own special classes in schools and funding, ironically post-USSR most these minority cultures and languages are going extinct.
>Funding and resources poured into uplifting them, free houses, hospitals, schools, universities, resorts, summer camps, art galleries, cultural palaces, infrastructure.
>Culture literally flourished to the point these people had successful independence movements and went from minorities in their country to overwhelming majority.
>Apparently the worst victims of Colonialism in the world, and were "Russified" because they had to learn 3 hours of Russian a week in school, literally purely just for pragmatic reasons of being able to cross communicate among Republics, the USSR even fucking prioritized Esperanto initially.
Why do the Butthurt belts get away with their laughably ridiculous "colonization" and "Russification" claims when it's just blatantly materially clear they went through nothing of the sort?
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>>18699873
how's the operation in ukraine going, ivan?
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>>18698895
>making the natives once again the overwhelming majority of the population.
Don't look up Kazakhstan's population makeup under the USSR, bro.
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>>18698935
>they literally near 100% sided with the Nazis
dude, normal people would side with satan himself against bolsheviks.
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>>18700781
I wish Ukraine to remain intact and ethnically homogeneous, it's terrible what is happening in there and Russia did a wrong thing by attacking people, who are racially close to them. It's unfortunate that EU or NATO doesn't care about them, since, after all, they are Slavs and westerners don' care about Slavs, they only care about jews and shitskins. I wish nothing but good to Ukrainians.
Tatars are on the other hand are racially mutted golden horde leftovers, who are eternally raped victims.
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>>18698924
Imagine defending literal steppenigs. People call the Russians orcs but the soviets were much more civilized than savage tartars and chechens

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How do Nordicists respond to the fact that much of their civilization is based on Greco-Roman and Abrahamic ideals?

Greek philosophy and science, Roman law, administration, and architecture, Christian morality and lifestyle
What did Nordicists contribute that wasn't one of those?
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>>18700713
Why do nig nogs think they have the right to make the distinction between north and south europe, or even Europe and the middle east?
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>>18700713
By the same logic, you could (even more rightly) argue that Meds have no independent culture because the Greeks and the Romans worshipped mostly Indo European Gods, had Indo European political structures (warrior aristocracies) and spoke Indo European languages. The deepest roots of their culture came from the North. Besides the point that they also got the features of civilization (stone building, scripture) from the outside. Somehow Greeks adopting scripture from the Middle East makes them civilized, but the rest of Europe adopting it from the Greeks makes them barbarians. Greeks were influenced by Oriental architecture and art and they made something new out of it. Later Northern Europeans were influenced by Greco-Roman architecture and art and made something new out of it, erecting the greatest and tallest structures that humans ever erected. Same thing with "Greek science" and "Greek philosophy": Greeks also took influences from the Orient, and they built upon them. The Greeks being the first ones doing philosophy and science in Europe doesn't make philosophy and science inherently Greek. Most of great science, mathematics, philosophy was produced in Northern Europe. Most of the great inventions of humanity happened there. The scientific revolution mostly happened there (Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, also Descartes if we count France). The industrial revolution, the most consequential event in human history next to the birth of agriculture happened there. Modern civilization, which is something completely different from "civilization" before, was born there.
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>>18700866
Romans themselves were hugely influenced in their administrative practices by the Hellenistic Orient, and the Roman influence on medieval state formation is mostly a meme (these structures formed organically, and Roman law often was used as a justification). Roman law has some importance, yes, but Roman law is itself influenced by the Orient (think of middle eastern figures like Ulpian), and later Northern Europeans built something completely new on it, and our modern associations with Roman law are to a certain degree 19th century german pandectist inventions. This absurd idea that earlier influences somehow negate later progresses (which is just used against Northern Europeans) can be played against anybody, apart from the first stone age people. And so we end up with the conclusion that stone age art is the greatest art ever, because all later art built upon it. So yeah, the argumentation is absurd. Nords played a big role in the foundation of Europe as a cultural sphere with the Indo Europeans. You can trace the European tradition of Individualism (which is the cornerstone of European culture) back to them. Also most of the languages and the ancient pagan religions. Then Nords played the central role in establishing medieval european civilization and also producing modernity, the most transformative era of human civilization. And it's also disingenious to divide Europe in North and South, while treating much more heterogenous cultural spheres like India, the Middle East or East Asia as one.
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>>18700869
this meme doesn't even make sense

Why did they do it? Especially right after the failure of Barbarossa. No answer ever makes sense.

>It was because Japan attacked.
But Japan never declared on the USSR when Germany attacked, so why did Germany ever owe Japan anything?

>It was because they needed to stop Lend-Lease
But a war delcaration only accelerated aid to Britain and Russia since now the entire US economy could be mobilized.
Surely Germany knew that the US had like 50% of the entires worlds industry.
Declaring war on US meant they could now invade continental Europe and bomb German cities.

>It was because Hitler was simply crazy
Not buying it.
Hiler may have been insane but insane people can still be intelligent.
And if you're insane to the point of being irrational then no one will follow you, plus there's more people than just Hitler in the cabinet and military, and no one protested.
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>>18699516
Without war the US would be sending aid to Britain non-stop, even if it was less than with war.
With war Germany could stop all aid to Britain entirely without restraint.
Because they believed they could win.
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>>18699516
>Surely Germany knew that the US had like 50% of the entires worlds industry.
who carez we wuz aryan n shiet we beat everyone
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>>18699516
I haven't read too much about it but Hitler made the decision after consulting a small group of the top advisors.
Ribbentrop and Göring were dismissive of American industry.
Keitel and Raeder said they should attack now when America would be weakest, to allow the lend-lease convoys to be attacked and because they thought war was inevitable. A few days prior an American war plan to raise an army and land it by 1943, called Rainbow Five, was leaked by the press and was causing a stir in the US.
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>>18699516
Literally because they thought they could easily win against 'a bunch of cowboys'. I remember hearing an anecdotal story from a former German refugee after the war who sailed to New York and began a train journey to California. After they passed chicago his wife remarked, 'surely we must be almost in california.'
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>>18700594
>"america is a nation of razor-blade makers"
>forgot that razors are deadly

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Why can’t Jehovas witnesses stop raping children!??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sexual_abuse

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/his/ sisters I don't fucking feel so well.....
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>>18700457
>If having middle eastern admixture means that you are not ''fully ancient Greek'' than no ancient greek population was ''fully ancient Greek'' considering that Myceneans too had like 15/20% Zagros
no, being part middle eastern on top of what made the mycenean genetic profile means you're not fully mycenean, stop being disingenuous
you're not fully mycenean if you're 40% mycenean
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>>18700457
>He's 100% a mentally ill nordishitter considering his arbitrary and manichean division of ''ancient populations from ''Europe'' = le good, ancient populations from the ''Middle East'' = le bad
no, ancient populations from europe = european, ancient populations from the middle eastern = middle eastern, person that is half greek = not a person that is full greek
this is not a moral judgement

>except for the Anatolian Farmers tho, those too came from the Middle East originally but since they are in all Europeans they are magically ''le good'' and ''yuropean''
too ancient and different from moderns to matter, more dishonesty, something approaching modern genetic profiles are from the bronze age and onwards, just like civilizations
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>>18700457
No, he's a menatard who wants yo highlight that these samples were more mena shifted

Yes myceneans had like 12-15 excess chg-zagros, but even northern Europeans are more enriched in chg-zagros than most it not all meds because steppe was heavily part churka. So what? Everyone in Europe these days has large alien mena ancestry.
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>>18700617
We are talking about post bronze age populations,.tahts what's relevant
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>>18700503
>>18700633
So, Ancient Greeks, who overlap with modern Greeks, mixed with "middleastern" Hittites (pic related) in Anatolia, didn't they?

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Specifically in the enlightenment sense with the opposite side

>does it ever once change the other sides opinion on things
"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it."

>does it ever change a third party's opinion on things
"Don't argue with fools. People from a distance can't tell who is who."

>do you actually learn more?
no. 1 hour debating a pig or a fool does not give you the same knowledge as the text you are studying from.


So what the fuck were the enlightenment people going on about?
Seems more like mocking from a distance leads to more intellectual growth than le debate me bro.
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>>18698087
Yes youre correct its more effective for the whole of society to either bully or exterminate faggots who disagree with you. The mentally ill, by definition, cannot grasp reason
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>>18698087
I'd argue that the skills you get from debating as useful in everyday life. As browsing 4chan no doubt has taught you, arguing with the dumb and disingenuous is more frustrating than it is fruitful, but thankfully not all people and situations are like this. Formal debates have an audience you can persuade and informal discussions tend to be in good faith so that some common understanding can be reached. Regardless of what situation you find yourself in I think there are a few benefits:
1. You get free practice. The difference between having a rough idea of your beliefs in your head and being able to coherently present them in an elegant manner to other people is huge, and the more often you do it the better you'll become at it.
2. Your ideas get challenged. If you exclusively hang out in echo chambers then you'll be completely unprepared for legitimate criticisms of your ideas. People who are fans of extreme political ideologies or alternative economic models (like socialism or communism) are especially guilty of this, because they spend all their time in circlejerks that only talk about utopian versions of their ideas.
3. It teaches active listening. This is another really useful skill to have. If you're arguing with someone in good faith then you should make an effort to not just listen to their words but interpret the deeper meaning and wants behind them. Most people aren't trained in oratory or rhetoric so they can be bad at presenting their ideas, especially if it's something that makes them emotionally invested, as arguments often do - if you've been in a relationship then you'll know that arguments over irrelevant shit are often proxies for deeper unresolved issues. Being able to accurately understand what a person truly wants or means even if they can't properly articulate it is an incredibly useful skill to have, whether it's for politics, business or personal relationships.
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>>18698087
>>does it ever once change the other sides opinion on things
That's not the point. The point is to change the minds of the thousands of lurkers that aren't actively participating in the debate. Who cares about your random individual interlocutor
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>>18698087
Ideally, to discuss, understand, and contrast each others ideals in search of the truth. Realistically, debates are just ego contests to see who has the biggest dick for a dopamine spike.
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>>18698087
Only enlightened persons debating other enlightened persons can lead to further enlightenment. Wisdom is only profitable to the wise, since only the wise listen to advice.

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>>18700314
The judeochristian rabbi yeshua figure is a very detestable and immoral figure indeed, a literal zionist pederast
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I hate wickedness personally, and if this guy said such things I will criticize them. If not, then no problem with me.
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>>18700675
Heaven and hell aren't real. It's just Sheol and Jesus is there along with everyone else. Although, he's burning in a pot of excrement while the Jews who followed the law are living it up.
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>>18700714
It's strange to think that people who allow foreign men to suckle on bleeding baby foreskins get to heaven. It sounds like a charged question but I wonder if you take yourself seriously when you say that?
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>>18700314
Based


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