AI ranked hearths by contributions ( to the global system up to ~1900 CE). Agree or disagree? How would you rank them?
What do you think of Historical Jesus?>Existed>Peter in the wilderness was already preaching>Jesus believes he is the messiah from the old testament that Peter is preaching about and takes it a step further>Jesus is basically an extremist >This incites the powers at be(Rome)>Jesus is Martyred https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82vxOBbYSzk&t=14s There's a lot more in the video. I thought it was a pretty interesting
>>18248476Buy an ad, Justin. Aren't your shitty threads on /x/ enough?
>>18248476Juba II was a botanist, explorer and historian and was Jesus' father. He figured out that jews had created a superstition based on his lineage of the Massylii,- specifically based on the achievements of Massinissa.Glaphyra caught wind of it during Juba II's stay in Galilee and flirted him up to adopt her a son of his and his wife due to such a son being higher-born than the Herods which she made fun of. Adopting an heir for herself from the Messiah lineage itself would also have given her grounds to separate her widowed claim to the Hasmoneans from the Herods that held her hostage.Jesus was an autist that just wanted to be a scholar like his father and not play into the politics of his stepmother Glaphyra.
What language did the native Christian majority in the Levant speak during the time of the crusades?
>>18248474Any suggestions on a book on the history of various liturgical languages?
>>18248482anon, nobody reads on this board, they're just saying things
>>18248507I've had some good recommendations on some topics here. I'll settle for something short form, frankly. Wikipedia is useless at the best of times so finding out historical information on languages from there is impossible. Especially for anything vaguely religious like a linguistic withering into liturgy.
Were the Syriac Christians nestorian or oriental orthodox?
>>18248530Both. There were jacobites and the church of the east. And possibly some maronites and even euchites, though I can't remember where I read the last.
Right makes Might. In the end, Good will always triumph over Evil
indeed
>>18248495>>18248500Yeah mass starvation is great said no one ever.
>>18248500Lol the Russian Federation is just an unofficial continuation of the USSR. You westerners think changing a flag is so special
>>18248495Based
Baptists are semi-pelagian. Their theology strictly contradicts the fact that all have sinned, all have fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). If children are automatically born in a state of innocence, and do not become accountable for their sin until the age of reason (ages 7 or 8), then how could you say that Adam's sin passed onto his descendants? How could you say children are saved by Christ? They would be saved out of their own nature, but this contradicts scripture which clearly says by our nature we are children of wrath (Ephesians 2:3). This denies the fact that we are saved by grace alone! The Baptist tradition, like all Anabaptist heresies, is an anti-grace theology. They are not real Protestants. Become Reformed.
>>18247907babies do not know right or wrong and are therefore innocent.any further disagreement is just you being disingenuous.you're trying to find fault because you want to, not because it's actually there.
>>18247860>It did find its way into the Textus Receptus but this was due to influence from the Vulgate on ErasmusSee pic.>(Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Corinthians 7:14).Try learning what those scriptures mean before citing them.
>>18247907Where does scripture say babies can have faith? Where does scripture baptize babies?
>>18247892>Scripture declares that baptism saves (1 Peter 3:21)In 1 Peter 3:21 he says baptism is a "figure" of that which saves. What saves us is the resurrection of Jesus Christ according to 1 Peter 3:21.>Baptism is the means of grace, washing away sins (Acts 22:16)Strange how you omit the entirety of the verse, anon. It says "calling on the name of the Lord" in that verse as well. Why omit this?>(1 John 2:29, 1 John 5:1,Those are about being born again, which our Lord and Savior referred to in the Gospel of John, chapter 3.As it says, "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"- John 1:12"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."- 1 Peter 1:23Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18248016Sola fide applies to adults not to children or babies. They are saved by grace alone not faith
Why do people say right wing is pro monarchy and hierarchy when leftists constantly suck off institutions and central banks?
>>18248345>our
Institutions & central banks ARE the new monarchy. Leftists become the high priests of a secular theocracy. They worship the abstract System (Administrative State, central bank independence, NGO networks) the same way old monarchists bowed to the Divine Right of Kings. And they hate rival consecrations. Their egalitarianism is just the state religion of a managerial class that replaced bloodlines with credentials and heraldry with policy papers. The right now harbors the last true anti-monarchists who want to deconsecrate the cathedral entirely.
>>18247772The whole notion of politics as a 2 dimensional line is an absurd oversimplification. It's at the very least a 4 quadrant chart. This is why people have a hard time figuring out where the Nazis lay on a right-vs-left political line. The Nazis themselves were seen as a unity of established opposites at the time, embracing both traits of the far right and far left. The two crossed Sieg runes that make up the swastika are intended to represent a *unity* of nationalism and socialism, previously seen as political opposites.So everyone just puts the Nazis on the side of the political line that theyr'e *NOT* on.A four quadrant graph of politics makes more sense, but even that is also an absurd oversimplification.
>>18247910Why would someone have to work a white collar job to be a right winger?
>>18248355does this nigger not know that the executive branch ultimately has control over what these institutions do?
This makes a lot more sense of "civil rights" (removal of free association)
>>18248480Hitler and the Communists literally were the African-American's greatest international allies, yes. If you're black and not a Commienazi, then you have learned nothing of your people's history.
Is protestantism just anything that's not Catholic or greek orthodox?
>>18247382>You assume that God cannot be in control of His churchHe clearly isn't. Any student of history could tell you as much. >god totally wanted the papacy moved to Avignon and for there to be two popes bro, it's his divine will
>>18247399All forms of catholicism are satanic and unbiblical. That has nothing to do with God or His church.
>>18246099There are three parts to the Christian Church OP. >Catholics: The heirs of Peter.>Schismatics: Established their own churches which are theologically different from Catholicism without compromising on core doctrine. (Orthodox, Nestorians, Ethiop-Malankara, Goan Nasrani, etc) >Protestants: heretical and borderline illiterate, self obsessed, retards who think that "whatever feels good to you man" can stack up with millennia of academic theology and doctrine, because that's what they taught him at "Pastor Billy-Joe-Bob's Big House of God and Auto-Repair Shop". There's basically no difference between a Protestant and a Mormon OP.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eESDgyc_4aE
>>18246112There's also difference between "reformed" and "restorationist" congregations
>>18248506One accepts Catholic dogma, the other does not.
The very phrase “protect people from discrimination” is ridiculous. “Discrimination” is a complete non action. It is somebody standing on their property and deciding to do nothing. They are taking no action with anybody. Phrasing “discrimination” as if it is an active action, an act of aggression, that needs “protecting” from is almost as Orwellian as the usage of the word “rights” in the term “civil rights”. Mixing up the concept of positive/negative rights of “nobody has the right to do X to me” with “nobody has the right to not do X with me”, as if the two are the complete exact same, is a complete abuse of language and is manipulative political propaganda. You have the right to the things that are yours, you do not have the right to things that are others.
>>18248452He'd radicalize
>>18248452He would be anti lgbtq+ but no he won't. He would still be complaining. We literally people from his generation still alive today. They're socially conservative but still anti racism or at least anti black racism.
>>18248452He wanted race to not be part of the equation, he would have hated identity politics and critical race theory. I think he wouldn't mind the current administration as much as the modern lefty.
>>18248456*We literally have How the fuck can you miss that you stupid phone.
>>18248454I am sure can argue plenty about how property rights are not valid. Discrimination laws do not just cover things that have to do with physical property though, they cover contractual labor as well. The cake scenario didnt have to do with property, nor did it really even have to do with anybody’s identity. The couple could have bought any pre made cake from that exact same bakery and put what they wanted on it. It was about forcing people to express a message on a cake that they did not agree with. (first amendment violation).
There is a timeline where Ba'al/Hadad became the main object of Canaanite/Israelite monotheistic worship instead of Yahweh and billions of people worship Ba'al today.
>>18247781>>18246401>It claims Yahweh is the “destroyer of nations” (Jeremiah 4:7)I should also mention that the phrase “destroyer of nations” is translated from the Hebrew phrase mashkhít goyím (משחית גוים) and in some versions of the Bible, this phrase is translated as “destroyer of gentiles.” They are literally calling him the “destroyer of goyim,” this only proves that Yahweh-Typhon is a demon.
>>18246265For this to come to pass would require something to force the Baalists to try and convert gentiles.Given that Christians and even modern Jews don't sacrifice animals any more, I would if modern Baalists would still sacrifice children>pic is Moloch but idgaf
>>18246265You're correct, OP. Luckily Jesus (the salvation of Yahweh) Christ came to restore Eden and worship of the true God called I Am That I Am.
>>18248467Your god Yahweh is not a real god and is unironically no different from the “Satan” boogeyman you invented.>>18247781>>18247785
>>18248499Your correct in your observation that most Christians are ignorant normies, many are easily manipulated. I could just as well observe that most pagans are ultragay sjw larpers. Although I won't make such assumptions about your individual beliefs, I will say that paganism is the religion most appropriate for this world, but that this world is fallen and evil, whether your recognize it or not.The dichotomy in your picture is a false one, and a trap.
I’m reading about the classical era, and it’s hard to find an admirable man who WASN’T screwing boys on the side. Of the first 15 Roman Emperors, 14 were recorded to have had sex with boys, and the man out—Claudius—was mocked as being “ruled by women” for not doing so. In Sparta and Thebes, men at arms would have sex with each other to promote military efficiency (the Theban “Sacred Band”, Spartan Agoges). In fact, this seems like a constant of militaristic societies, with the Ottomans also practicing this trend. Only where it was religiously prohibited was it not practiced. This kind of homosexuality naturally seems institutional, imposed, and not natural, but it’s bizarre to wrap my head around.
>>18244067The Greco-Roman world wasn't that gay. It was around 87% Straight, 7% Bisexual, 4% Gay, and 2% Lesbian
>>18247815>Source: My ass
>>18247950Unironically a good source in this case
>>18248096C’m’ere, sexy ;)
>>18247769I don't think Nietzsche's work was ever really about fully embracing your desires as the ultimate good, it was more a challenge to the underlying reasoning of morals. He doesn't present a convincing alternative moral paradigm, rather he poses a challenge to the systems that invoke these ethical principles. If the message you got from Nietzsche was I am the ubermensch and my will is the only thing of value you might want to read him again, or you just want to use his work to cover for the fact you cannot control yourself. Take the sodomy and homosexuality of the ancient world. It requires no abstraction into ethics to understand why this practice is a pretty shit idea and overall harmful to the society. Yet by abstracting it into ethics you can conveniently ignore these, in some cases physiological, realities. You essentially use his work as a cover for the fact you are incapable of addressing that and prove yourself to be the biggest pseud/sophist of em all.
Back then when Europe was stuck at prehistory because of Germanic barbarian migrations caused 1000 years of obscurantism in the Mediterranean world.The Arabs acted as the opposite pole to Barbarians. Wherever they went, they built cities (while the barbarian destroyed them), they brought sciences (while barbarians murdered Boethius, burned libraries and banned sciences), left the most import artistic sites of the period (while barbarians greatest work was some bones stuff), poetry (which barbarians lacked), tolerance (where barbarians stablished racism), etc.Islamic Golden Age was an era of optimism which hold togheter the Ancient World. From Spain (Tarshish) in the extreme West of the world, to Persia in the extreme East, from Tunis (Carthage) to Iraq (Mesopotamia), from Sicily (Magna Graecia) to Crete, from Morocco (Mauritania) to the the land of Kush in Sudan, way down of the Nile's Delta.Just imagine the differences between both worlds. The sunny Mediterranean land of Andalucia with its free peoples focused on living happy lifes, beyond of its borders, the fronzen glacial grim land of Germania. Their once happy under Grecoroman rule now unhappy neighbors got to live subjected to the brutal Barbarian and Inquisitorial yoke imposed over science, medicine, philosophy, astronomy, etc., by the brutal Germanic cavemen who Jus Primae Nocted their lands after Rome's fall.
So why did the Scientific Revolution happen in Western Europe?
>>18248385It didn't, tho, our modern world derived from Arab scientists. We couldn't even use this computer without Arab maths.
>>18248389We couldn't use the computer without calculus and set theory, of which both originate in Europe. After Arab knowledge was conveyed to Europeans, we surpassed them.
>>18248389"Arab scientist" didn't do anything but keep alive the traditions and knowledge from the Ancient Greeks, passed down to them through the Byzantine Empire.
You guys good?What the fuck happened here?
>>18245789Total Christian Victory
>>18247004>II.Are you a German, Hungarian or Turk?
>>18247012They fought Poland to preoccupy them and keep them out of the war
>>18247665German.
>>18245789>fuck happened
I'm a Zoroastrian, and I think many "pagan" groups end up defining themselves in opposition to Christianity, purely that. This can be limiting and doesn't allow their own beliefs and practices to be presented autonomously, and I don't think a "belief system" that is solely restricted to ethnocentrism can fill the gaps in the search for any kind of transcendence.It's as if Christianity were the 'other' necessary to define their identity. Focusing on one's own beliefs and practices, instead of reacting to Christianity, could be more productive.In my opinion, the irony is that, by doing so, pagan groups may be reinforcing the centrality of Christianity in their own narrative, rather than focusing on their own beliefs and practices. It's as if Christianity were the 'other' necessary to define their own identity.
If that's what you are interested, look at Neoplatonic and theurgic pagans today instead of people like Varg for whom paganism is just an aesthetic to flavour their political beliefs with.
>>18248286>waaah why don't pagans want to have conversations with us!1!1!!1>pagan tries to initiate a conversation with a reasonably measured and intellectual opener>HURR DURR LARP HURR DURR SHILL HURR DURR DURR...DURRRRR!!!You can't be THIS fucking stupid.
>>18248250>they don't worship an arab. no Muslim doesMuslims worship Muhammad. No matter how they deny it. Why does their religious creed otherwise requires Muhammad in it? Why do they want to follow in his steps? Why is it worse for them if someone insults Muhammad than if someone insults Allah? Allah is just a plot device fof Muhammad and the true God of islam is Muhammad.
>>18248230Honestly OP the fact that you're a native Zoroastrian is much more interesting that what larpagans are up to. Plenty of threads about that.How common is Zoroastrianism really in Iraq? I read widely mixed estimates. To what extent does it influence the life of the average modern practitioner? How are the relations with the Muslims?
>>18248284i dont live in MENA and im not a muslim. i am not affected by the existence of zoroastrians.>The issue of "legitimacy" and continuity is more legitimate here (because people, mainly, BELIEVE in it) than Twitter pages or costume events held by young people under 30yes it is, which is what makes zoroastrians clowning on european neopagans laughable. neo zoroastrains don't have an attested, writtten document for their religion since the magi refused to continue their teachings.hinduism is more consistent than zoroastrianism is at this rate.>>18248458you don't know what worship means.>Why does their religious creed otherwise requires Muhammad in it? because he was the perfect muslim so it's important to emphasize that he is an example for all to follow.>Why do they want to follow in his steps?because he was the perfect muslim so he would know best as the prophet>Why is it worse for them if someone insults Muhammad than if someone insults Allah? not a thing>Allah is just a plot device fof Muhammad and the true God of islam is Muhammad.repeating yourself isn't evidence.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
What even was Generalplan Ost? Did the Nazis intend to exterminate the slavs in the east wholesale or did they just intend to create various german colonies inside Russia?
>>18247798Only non retarded post in the thread
>>18247821The Germans were experiencing food shortage because they kept invading an increasing amount of state.They invaded Poland and thus got cut off from the global market food imports.They continued to recieve just about enough imports from the USSR through trade, but then they also invaded them.The fields of Ukraine were scorched as a resultSo yes, it doesnt become problematic when a people who were just minding their own business, becomes a part of a policy of deliberate starvation because an aggressor nation needs to sustain the war.No one would have starved if there was no war, or at least not to that extent.My point however, is that Hunger Plan was nearly on parallel with the Indian famine during the war, as Britain also forcefully re-directed food away from Indians to Britain, tho they were less callous about it than Germany was about Slavs starving. The British viewed it as a regretfulThe Germans viewed it with complete indifference and even tried to spin it to something positive.But in the end, they were largely done on the same basis of circumstances, but have been framed differently post-ww2, and that's why I believe Generalplan Ost is heavily distorted as part of the de-nazificiation process post-ww2.
>>18245076Nazis were a lot less coherent than people think, frankly anti-Semitism and German Jingoism are literally the only two consistent aspects of the whole movement, otherwise everything could be bent and adapted based on the Führer's whims and arbitrary feelings
>>18247754>There was no general plan OstYes, there was.We are Europeans, while you germs are becoming Eurabians.
>>18247821>we are the good guys, ok maybe we starved millions of europeans but it's okay because there was no choice and they were subhumans anyway neonazi mask-off moment
