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Why do Catholics still worship Mary even when their Pope has told them it's heresy?
https://www.usccb.org/news/2025/mary-mother-jesus-and-all-believers-not-co-redeemer-vatican-says
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>>18348430
Catholics have claimed to have seen apparitions of this woman with a baby in her arms and they call her Mary, my question is, if Jesus is a grown adult then who the fuck is the baby?

This spirit with this baby has been appearing to people for 6,000 years.
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>>18348449
The mother goddess - salvific son archetype far precedes Christianity and is deeply embedded in the collective unconsciousness of humanity itself
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>>18348430
It is not worship, and the Pope has not said such a thing.
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>>18348456
>Citing Scripture and tradition, the future Pope Benedict XVI said, "The precise meaning of these titles (co-redemptrix and co-mediatrix) is not clear, and the doctrine contained in them is not mature."
Read the article

Which do you guys think is the right religion and as well how many gods do you think are there?

For me personally I believe there is only one, I like the monotheistic concept. I don't believe a god like Jupiter would be all mighty but then he shares his power with other lesser gods.

But I am not that confident that the one true god is like the christian one, where the devil does some mischievous actions and lures you out of gods magic love and power i find that its basically two gods.
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>>18345948
>Which do you guys think is the right religion
Christianity. However "the right religion" makes most people think of it as "the right answer". Instead, I think it's more useful to think of it as "the right tool".
>how many gods do you think are there?
No idea. But there is only one truly deserving of the title - the God.
>where the devil does some mischievous actions and lures you out of gods magic love and power i find that its basically two gods.
Not to pull a Peterson on you, but it depends on what you mean by god. If to you, gods are just powerful spiritual beings (which is a historically defensible usage) then yes, there are countless gods and even some humans or previously-human entities could be called that. But if the title god is reserved for the true owner, true master of all, then there is only one. And he saw it fit to tolerate sinners and the devil for as long as he does.

>>18345957
Half the gnostic cults we know of have a hefty mythology that exceeds Christianity in its dramatic complexity. You can recreate broad stroke gnostic sentiments from observing nature in particular ways, but then again, so you can with monotheistic sentiments.
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>>18345953
very true sirs
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advaita. spinoza’s god if you don’t like that
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>>18347928
Basically no serious Nicene Christian will admit Mormons or JWs share a religion with him. In so far as they do they only share a useful category.
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Radical Tantric Nordic Traditional Islamo-Catholicism for me personally

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>most US news media refer to the various European public broadcasters as "state media"
>one of the few actual state-controlled broadcasters in the West is the US's USAGM
>https://statemediamonitor.com/2022/05/typology/
really makes one ponder.
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>>>/pol/
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>>18347373
Explain yourself.
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all media in the USA is state media

they just larp as independent corporations when they actually answer to a few dozen spooks
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Reminds me of the classic soviet joke.
>KGB agent in America talks to a local
>Hello, what brings you over all the way from Russia?
>I came here to study your country's propaganda's effectiveness.
>What propaganda?
>Exactly what I mean.

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>spend nearly a century stockpiling arms and building bases in case Russia invades
>Russia finally invades
>America abandons the region and starts cutting off the EU
What gives? Was the US subverted or did they just never actually care?
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>>18347431
>what my grandpa wants is also what I wants
Most Americans are unwilling to risk their life in a war oversea, that no matter the outcome won't affect their life.
The ruling elite before might had been willing to force the population for national interest. That doesn't mean the current one is willing to do the same. After all they all be dead before shit hits the fan.
Rather live out a comfy life than risk it all for some jackasses in the future.
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>>18347441
>no longer poses a global threat
which is why most of the world immediately turned on Russia when it invaded
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>>18347431
LOL fuck the EU, I hope this petty meaningless war over uKKKraine destroys western imperialism and I also hope Trump starts a war with Denmark over Greenland and dismantles NATO. Allah bless Comrades Putin and Xi! Russian oil can also be used to wean the west off middle eastern oil, thereby eliminating the need to do business with the gulf states and the zionazi entity
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>>18348234
That's unrelated to Russia's capacity of being a global threat, nobody is under the illusion that nations like Germany are at threat of Russian invasion but it is unironically the current year and we thought that we had moved past aggressive wars of territorial expansion.
>>18347431
>What gives? Was the US subverted or did they just never actually care?
NATO relies on US leadership and the sitting president is the most divisive president that has ever held that office, not just domestically but within NATO and among other western allies. Nobody knows what the fuck to do because the leader of the alliance is too busy constantly threatening its own allies and key trading partners.
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>>18348234
Unjustly invading a sovereign nation for a blatant land grab is still frowned upon dullard.

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And why are they right?
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>>18345674
Stop. Being. White.
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>>18345673
Nonsense.
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>>18345673
faggot
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>>18345651
Blonde hair looks silky. It’s the color of sunshine. It’s the color of fire and candlelight. It's the color of things we value, like gold or wheat. But it's all obviously based on preference. I disagree with the slander of any hair color, but the slander on blonde hair seems to be coded in jealousy because of it's rarity.
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>>18345662
Good morning sirs
>>18345676
ESLxfaggot

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Eisenhower considered dropping out of the war and divorcing his wife so he could marry this
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Marry a cat? And why is Ike crossdressing in your picture? I already knew he was a little zesty, but I didn't realize how far he had taken it....
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>>18348316
would

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Is there any religion ever in history that accepted or supported this?
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>>18343214
Homophilia is a mental disease and most likely result of djinni possessions
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>>18348381
Reminder there is no such thing as homophobia and using fecal language as a pejorative is hilarious in this context.
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>>18348381
>errrm everyone except the “Jewish” west LOVES pederasts!
>actually if you don’t love pederasts, you aren’t from the “Jewish” west!

Fags just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks
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>>18343214
This thread is mostly just “the fash are cool with gays and that’s based/cringe”.

To answer OP seriously, some sects of Buddhism are indifferent to homosexuality, Shintoism has traditionally accepted some homosexual relationships or at least sex (pro-tip, Samurai were into Yaoi with their page’s), Chinese and some other Asian folk religions also tolerate or at least don’t actively punish gay sex. Homosexuality was also tolerated amongst many Native American cultures with Mayans even having something like a third gender. Not sure about modern Hindus or Sikhs but there is some gay shit in Indian mythology.

Pretty much everyone else (Abrahamic faiths) traditionally oppose homosexuality, also Zoroastrians and many older Middle Eastern religions have as well.
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>>18348401
both are true. brown people love homosexuality until they were brainwashed by shabbos goyim. now the whites have thrown off their yokes of oppression but the browns continue to languish under their hebraic mind disease... we must liberate our non-white brothers...

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Why do catholics and orthodox have such a problem with female priests?
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>>18348301
The Catholic church is known for twisting the scripture as they will in light that they are the only ones allowed to interpret it.
I find a bigger problem on how are they going to argue going against the entirety of their sacred tradition being against it, since they take that way more seriously.

>>18348310
Francis may have been as woke as he could be, but he always was very negative about female ordination. The fact that they chose Prevost after him tells me that they are willing to give in to pretty much anything EXCEPT this matter.
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>>18346523
A woman could never be a Levite priest because a woman can never be pure enough to stand in the presence of the most high for the reason that she has a vagina. She could never enter the Most Holy place, even a man with crushed balls was not allowed. A man had to be perfect and holy to withstand the presence of God. If a woman enters the Most Holy Place in her impurity she dies.
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>>18348399
Leviticus 16:1-3
>The Lord spoke to Moses after the death of Aaron’s two sons, who died after they entered the Lord’s presence and burned the wrong kind of fire before him. The Lord said to Moses, “Warn your brother, Aaron, not to enter the Most Holy Place behind the inner curtain whenever he chooses; if he does, he will die. For the Ark’s cover—the place of atonement—is there, and I myself am present in the cloud above the atonement cover.

Why doesn't the Vatican or the orthodox temple or any Christian church has a Most Holy place where the presence of God itself dwelled like he did in the Tabernacle of Moses and then eventually in the Temple of Solomon.

If the Vatican is supposed to be the new holy house of the Holy One of Israel then why does it not have a Most Holy place where the presence of God itself dwells?
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>>18348409
>why does it not have a Most Holy place where the presence of God itself dwells
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>>18346523
First, the Christian priest is acting in persona Christi, and since God saw fit to come to earth as a man, it would be unfitting and insulting to have women as priests. The Protestants do not even have priests, they are just preachers.

Second, there are the well known scriptures against women acting even as preachers, which actually goes further than just the priesthood.

Furthermore, in 2026, we can see with our own eyes that female preachers are just one of many pretended liberal modernizations that led, quickly, to destruction.

In 1960, fraught with normalcy, it might have been possible for an only moderate lackwit to say that female ministers were a good, modern, non destructive thing. In 2026, when only a single generation of decay has left us with gnostic rainbow buttscarring and mutilation flags planted on Methodist church lawns, it is impossible to miss the goal of destruction.

>two tiny arteries in the heart that can clog up easily and kill you
>tonsils which are useless but can get infected and inflamed which causes pain
>a spine that is not designed for bipedalism which leads to chronic pain
>appendix which is useless but can literally kill you
>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them
>constant foot pain because they're arched
>knees wear down quickly and cause chronic pain
>for some reason humans have cavities in their skulls that get full of mucus and stop you from being able to breathe
>your retina is screwed on backwards which is what causes detachment
>for some reason women make babies bigger than their pelvic floor can handle which frequently just kills them
>for some reason teeth have nerves when them which they don't need, they also are unable to repair themselves so before modern dentistry all your teeth would just rot away by time you're 30
>bipedalism causes varicose veins in legs because of gravity
>eustachian tubes in ears cause infection and blockage frequently
I see no evidence of a spiritual designer at work, only the entropy of an indifferent universe.
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>>18346224
>>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them


52yo here, still have my wisdom teeth
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>>18346294
zebras do
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>>18347113
No, you are a fucking fatass if you're complaining about things like knee pain, spine pain and clogged arteries.
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>>18346641
\thread
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>>18346224
>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them
Skill issue? I've never had to remove my teeth

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Was it autism?
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>>18348122
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18298048/#q18298048
There's a myth spread by tankies, and anti-Chinese people that CCP is made out of or close to Manchus, Koreans, Mongols (citizens of China).

During the 1930s, the CCP massacred Koreans in the Minsaedang incident even before they took power.

In the Cultural Revolution, the CCP massacred Koreans and Mongols and Manchus.

Koreans were slaughtered in Yanbian in 1967 by Red Guards who threw their corpses into trains to North Korea.

Mongols were slaughtered, butchered wholesale for three whole years in 1967, 1968, 1969 by Red Guards in the Inner Mongolia incident. There was sodomy and rape involved too.

Manchus were slaughtered and humiliated by Red Guards at the same time.

Manchu Lao She was forced to commit suicide in Beijing in 1966 by Red Guards

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>>18347087
Explain why destroying ancient artifacts was nessesary then?
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It was quite harsh but at some point you have no choice. Like if communists took over Saudi Arabia they’d have to completely destroy the pre-existing culture/religion there, otherwise they would always have reactionary forces trying to undo their work.
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>>18348172
Mao was copying Meiji Japan and revolutionary France and King Henry VIII.

All of which mass destroyed old architecture and artifacts.

Japan is full of fake concrete castles.
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>>18347897
>Western missionaries attacked the "arrogance" of Chinese officials while openly demanding destruction of tradition.
Non-Christian traditions are satanic by-default and thus anyone who believes in them is of the devil, I.E. prideful.

First post here.
I'm interested in engaging with those familiar with the critical scholarship on early Islamic history, particularly regarding the formation of what later became the “official” narrative (Sunna, biography of Muhammad, early historiography).

>Popular works include:

-Patricia Crone – Hagarism: The Making of the Islamic World
-Édouard-M Gallez – The messiah and his prophet
-Dan Gibson – Quranic Geography

I'd like to open a serious discussion on themes such as:

>Geographical and historical inconsistencies in early sources
>analysis of key terms and proper names in the Qur’anic corpus and early Islamic tradition
>The relationship between emerging Islam and contemporaneous religious & political contexts
>The processes through which early narratives may have been constructed & transmitted

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>>18347910
>But then when the Kaaba was founded you had several qiblas
When was that?
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>>18347594
>Who is 'we' and where can I read about this?
It's not like I put a link to a video portraying almost everybody involved or anything...
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>>18347778
thats the best you got? wow you brown “people” really are retarded.
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>>18348291
>no argument
I accept your consnession
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>>18348325
because its not worth arguing. the claim that the birmingham quran is totes from the alleged life of a muhammad figure has been dismantled time and time again. the claim of the caliphs being buried somewhere is equally horseshit, >my house is built on shangri-la, no I will not show you
its not worth talking about with you.
ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANYONE BEFORE MU’AWIYA. ZERO.
you can deny it, you can cope about it, you can argue it poorly, you can go away mad, it doesnt change anything. thats why the fuckin bears playing guitar on the wall: cause your religion didnt exist yet as you know it and they hadnt made up their stupid mafia rules yet. simple as.
these 7th century cross-bearing coins contain the bismillah and muhammad. the coins are saying of the depicted ruler, “He is chosen in the name of god,” or “Let him be praised in the name of God.”
>Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord
Speaking of the lack of archeological evidence for anyone until „Servant of God” Mu’Awiya, go read the Dome of the Rock inscriptions replacing „Muhammad” with its literal meaning (Praiseworthy/Acclaimed/Honored). I will wait again like I waited for the bears playing guitar justification. You seem to be compltely incapable or unwilling to engage in non-dogmatic critical thought so I will not hold my breath.

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Post wars which you think are Kino
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>>18345910
Anything that involved Crimean Khanate. You just couldn't predict what they would do next
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>>18345910
Sengoku period or Vietnamese warlords period
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>>18347956
[citation needed]
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>>18347956
so she was a schizo, got it
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>>18347879
Pretty much this, anglos have the money, they have hollywood and they only care about 1% of history, and they do it wrong

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>California doesn't believe the birth of President George Washington should be celebrated
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=GOV&division=7.&title=1.&part=&chapter=7.&article=
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>>18347909
>40 million
10 million are illegal migrants and dead still on the state and fed dole
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>>18347883
>Tennessee
Fuck off people we're full
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>>18347871
>1.) President's Day/Washington's Birthday is celebrated in California, and is recognized in your document as "(6) The third Monday in February."
they don't put a name on it or christmas you third world yurotranny faggot retard. they specifically put a name on MLK day and Lincoln's birthday or other shit, but not for Washington's birthday. they are the only state that doesn't call it washington's birthday or president's day, you nonAmerican tranny
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>>18347887
California and NY have lost more Americans than any other states in the past decade since they are so shit no one wants to live there, thirdie
>>18347883
this
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>>18347909
california has negative growth. more Americans are leaving california than moving to california, faggot
>>18347923
he was the first president. even if California didn't exist yet they should celebrate his birth

>The spanish inquisition dealing with the jews in the Grand complicidad. Circa 1620 colorized.

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Hello /his/. "redpill" me on jesuits. You probably know what I mean. I think it's better to ask this here than on /pol/. Are they trully that bad as some say?
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>>18348290
>>18348232
I can believe them as subverters for the Pope, but this just goes way too far. Sounds like a bogeyman for Protestants.
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>>18348294
It’s literally true though. They even wrote treatises in defense of lying. Look up jesuitical equivocation
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>>18348294
They are to protestants what freemasons are to catholics
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>>18348294
who do you think taught the creoles from a young age? look how it turned out
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Two very real conspiracies they did that immediately come to mind: they placed False Dmitri I on the throne of Russia and assassinated William the Silent of the Netherlands


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