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Over the last two years I have noticed a new trend of surging growth among Eastern Orthodox gen Z converts, especially on twitter and discord, which we may call latinizing.

As it can be deduced from the name, this trend consists of appropiating a latin mindset to Eastern Orthodoxy theology, or perhaps rediscovering it. In this sense the latinizers are a reaction to the 20th century neo-patristic school of theology, consisting of authors such as Lossky and Romanides, which was popularized in the recent years by online apologists such as Jay Dyer.

What the latinizers aim to prove is that the scholastic and legalistic aspects of EO theology from the post-patristic middle ages up to and including the ottoman occupation period, aren't a result of a so called "latin captivity" but a coherent continuation of the patristic age. So, they argue, theological concepts such as original sin, the sacramental distinction between form and efficacy, God as prime mover and so forth, are and always have been part of Orthodox theology, rather than a papalist innovation.

One Orthodox writer admired by many of them is Patriarch Gennadius Scholarius, an EO church figure which was at the same time both an admirer of Thomas Aquinas and an opponent of the union of Florence, harshly condemning papal supremacy and the filioque. Ultimately, this is the nuance which defines them, they are on the one hand defenders of the pre-schism latin west and admirers, though with reservations where dogma has been changed, of the post-schism latin west, while at the same time staunch anti-ecumenist traditionalists.
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*ahem*

ST AMBROSE AFFIRMED THE FILIOQUE IN THE *FOURTH CENTURY*
YOU COULD ALSO MAKE THE ARGUMENT HE WAS A MIAPHYSITE BASED ON THE PASSAGE YOU MAY REFER TO SURROUNDING "DE FIDE" 3 60

NOBODY WINS
EVERYONE IS MAD
DEAL WITH IT

Why would the most powerful being in the Universe have a human son who he then allows to suffer and die?
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>>18380939
Ironically, according to your mohel Shaul ha-Tarsi, it's the goyim who are freaks of nature, grafted unnaturally into the cultivated Jew tree.
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>>18381060
>capitalizes the j slur
back to the tunnel you filthy rat! Iran is bombing your shithole again
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>>18381127
Know your place, goy.
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>>18379161
Because God wants to serve??!
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>>18381141
>projecting again
know your genes gypsy
now shoo back to your rat tunnel, I taught you enough for one day

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1. Iosef Stalin
2. Napoleon Bonaparte
3. Peter the Great
4. Albert Einstein
5. Leo Tolstoy
6. Vladimir Lenin
7. Julius Caesar
8. Fyodor Dostoevsky
9. Karl Marx
10. Charles de Gaulle
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>>18379710
>latinx posts xir's gay bugmen cartoons while shit-talking slavs and sullying the Spanish flag
Weird.
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>>18378425
Are you brown? You've got an average normie-tier list right there
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>>18379436
A slight reminder that the origin of white race traces back to modern day Caucasus. That's why the name 'white race' is also called 'Caucasian race'. Georgians are White.
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>>18380438
>Latinx
Not latinx. But even they're more European than slavs.
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>>18381172
amerimutt award

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Hello. Why is Islamic heaven so carnal? Christians say that heaven will primarily be eternal intellectual contemplation of God's essence and this will entail unity with the divine through grace (theosis, divinization, or glorification) so that the saved will be like the angels in the resurrection. But the Muslims say that there will be many carnal delights, endless supply of food, non-intoxicating wine, milk and honey, endless sex and sexual pleasure, eternal youthfulness, and beautiful gardens and flowers and palm trees. Why is this so different from the Christian heaven???
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>>18379724
That's YWHW as described by Moses when he climbed mount sinai actually
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>>18377367
/thread
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>>18377287
Because islam is closer to judaism than christcuckery, so it's not obsessed with the "spirit" as much, while not being as wordly as judaism and its contemporary religions it retains the focus on wordly, material rewards for being faithful instead of the obsession with wanting to become "spirit" that the christcucks have
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>>18377287
Jannah is described in the Qur'an as being a place of physical pleasures with rivers of honey and Houris to sexually please it's inhabitants.
Christianity, however, values Beautific Vision, Theosis, and eternal glorification of the saints and worship of Jesus Christ. In the First Epistle to the Corinthians, the Bible states the body will still experience pleasure, just not the same way it did on Earth.
Furthermore, Muhammad lived in the deserts of Arabia, so images of rivers and palm trees are definitely going to appeal more to Muslims than Christians.
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>>18377287
>Mohammed: My MENA & Med people leave Christianity and the worship of a dead jew on stick and convert to Islam I promise you worlds of paradise islands were beautiful eternal butt naked scattered beach pearl sexy boy toys will entertain you until the end of times.
Only 4000 arabs spread this message in the Middle East and took down 2 powerful empires with it and still going strong after 1400 years. Kek

Did it actually take 2.5 fucking YEARS to travel from overland from St. Louis to the Oregon coast and back in the early-1800's? We're talking about 1800 miles, or 2900km. That's less than 2 miles per day, which seems intuitively wrong, even over rough terrain.
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>>18381102
>also NYC to san franciso is like 45 hours by car
Even by bike it's 11 days if you maintain a good pace but for most people it could be twice that if you account for things like headwind or inclines that could slow you down plus average daily hours spend cycling, but it's not months, I don't understand what that retard was thinking
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>>18380270
It doesn't even take months on foot much less with any vehicle
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>>18381115
>>18381138
The current record for the Cannonball Run (a cross-country motor race) is 25 hours 39 minutes; with an average speed of 113mph (182km/h)

That's with graded roads and knowing where you're going
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>>18380894
>You realize they were exploring uncharted territory
It was not uncharted, that retard Clark lost the chart.
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>>18380841
>Wyoming still has fewer people than Vermont
wyoming is also a completely flat completely empty steppe while vermont is temperate woodlands and hills
its like comparing kazakhstan to paris

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Just read about the Boxer Rebellion and the atrocities committed by the Eight Nation Alliance.
I will never see Westerners or the Japanese as civilized ever again.
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>>18380318
The Brits and Americans were the most civilised troops (as always).
Luigi, Takeshi, Ivan and François committed most of the heinous shit.
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>>18380324
>conveniently ignoring Hans and Hans-Kovacs' crimes
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>>18380318
I never looked beyond the geopolitical consequences of that event. Tell me what they did.

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Growing up means realizing the US has been a rogue state all along.
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>>18380886
The US can't be a rogue state because it IS the state. Globohomo is real.
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>>18380886
>Rogue state because of bomb in WW2
oh wow that's FUCKING INSANE!!!! they bombed a city in 1945? FUUUUUCK WHAT THE HELL??? Nobody else ever bombed a city!
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>>18381202
the cities weren't even the primary targets anyways, the targets were military headquarters and manufacturing hubs, the cities themselves were just collateral damage
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>>18380886
literally every combatant in ww2 bombed entire cities

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Everyone larps as a Platonist until his political ideas are actually put into practice, then it is suddenly a foreign thing to our modern sensibilities
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Platonism is childish it only works in the safe space that is your imagination. You end aligning with people who don't actually hold your values ore you end up arguing over semantics because your ideals aren't the same as the person you're talking to.
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I was listening to a philosophy professor give a lecture on book 1 of the republic and he was so excited to talk about how socrates owns the sophist, and especially at one point where when the sophist gets a difficult question he becomes warm and starts to sweat, showing him blushing even as he answers, and this showed how wrong the sophist was. All I could think was the sophist didn't blush, Plato wrote that the sophist blushed, as part of his strawman.

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Niggas on /his/ from countries like this will have serious claims to every historic legitimacy imaginable btw.
Let that sink in.

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Speak.
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>>18381177
Hey its Margaret Thatcher. Can we please release Rudolf Hess from Spandau Prison? Hes the only one left there and has been for over a decade. He's an old man. All the other Allied powers agree... we just need Soviet approval?

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Why were Jews pushing WWIII as early as 1957 (12 years after WWII)?
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>>18381166
Since World War III didn't happen, isn't that proof that Jews aren't actually as powerful as you think they are? Why do you care about the opinions of some schizo Rabbi anymore than the opinions of any other breed of Chud?

>had enough to ask help from Seneca the Younger and Sextus Afranius Burrus.
>lowered corruption
>organized relief efforts after Great Fire of Rome (fiddle wasnt invented yet)
>imported food to prevent famine after the fire
>opened palaces
>lowered taxes
>organized many festivals

why Nero was bad again?
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>>18380412
Because he called the Christcucks on their bullshit, and Christcucks now hold the reigns of power (in the service of their masters)
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>>18380412
>organized relief efforts after Great Fire of Rome
Yeah and then expropriated huge areas of the city to build an absurd palace for himself.

He was extremely venal are narcicistic. He even had his own mother murdered.
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>>18380412
he groomed a "transkid"
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>>18380412
Tiberius, Caligula, Nero, Domitian, Commodus and even Elagabalus were the victims of Senatorial slander. They were are competent administrators who were beloved by the people but they didnt suck up to those senatorial leeches so they were shunned, murdered and then lied about after their deaths.
Meanwhile some literal cuckold like Aurelius or a pederast rapist and mass murderer like Hadrian is presented as a wise, considerate leader. Because they sucked up to the senatorial class.
Our knowledge of Roman history is based on elite propaganda, totally unreliable. Its only been in the last few decades that historians finally started taking a more critical stance on trolls like Pliny the younger and getting more archeological sources which is why the "bad Emperors" are starting to get a more nuanced, positive reception.

And yes, Nero was a great singer BITCH.

>>18380494
Never happened, more Senator projection.
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People say I look like him

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why are they delusional enough to think they look italian/spanish? They're characterized by berberid phenotypes that rarely show up in europe
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>>18381099
Because most of them DO look identical Italians Spanish, though not all of them.

If they told you they were Italian/Spanish and had the appropriate accent (or lack of one), you'd believe them.
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They quite literally are part Italian and Spanish retard. North Africa was heavily colonized by southern europeans before the muslims showed up and ruined everything. They have a lot of Greek in them as well.
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>>18381121
no chance, they have different features. even the darkest gypos lack the black-like features nafris have
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>>18381126
gypsies are jeets.
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>>18381099
>why are they delusional enough to think they look italian/spanish?
A few of them do. You also have to consider that they are very prone to chutzpah-like behaviour.

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If the CSA won, how long would they have survived?
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>>18380863
>The South Will Rise Again!'.
If they are reliable and backed by sources can I see a few?
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>>18380867
>If they are reliable and backed by sources
That's the rub, isn't it.
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>>18377006
The Confederate States of America had no chance of winning the American Civil War, but if they did, they would rely heavily on slavery. The speaches of Alexander H. Stevens make it clear that they planned to have an economic system different than the United States. Based on this, I would predict they last another 20 or so years after the civil War but economic collapse causes it to crumble.
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>>18379272
The Southern states are still around tho.
>>18379166
True, they are much more advanced.
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>>18377176
>poor Whites would join
have revolts by slaves ever consisted of two more racial groups both in similar number?
this feels like a socialist fantasy.
poor people are often more racist.

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If the NAZIS won Normandy and Stalingrad, how long would they have survived?
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>>18381006
>Nobody like Jews or Nazis. Retard faggot.
Boy I sure hate how the nazis are controlling our government, indoctrinating our youth and funding mass immigration!
>>18381020
for you? sure thing, Steinberg https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26198764/
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>>18378352
realistically? 2 months
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>>18381023
People have been naming the jew since before the Prussian subhumans chimped out. I do not care for your dead ideology any more than I care to allow Israel to have a stranglehold on my government.
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>>18380920
>the Nazis couldnt have won. without magic or space aliens.
then how did Alexander win against even worse odds?
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>>18378352
Even if Nazi Germany won the war, they likely would've just collapsed by the 1980s anyways. Resistance movements were already on the rise in France before the war was even over. The rest of the 20th century for Germany would've been like the Italian Years of Lead but many times worse. The Soviets, Brits, and Americans would all be taking turns funding further resistance movements, turning the country into an unlivable, violent shithole before collapsing on its own


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