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So what would be the genuine consequences of tamerlane living to conquer india? Would north india just become a desolate wasteland like mongol khorasan? Would north india become majority muslim after the genocide? Would turks and the like migrate to fill in the void? W
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>>18258099

Test
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>>18258099
Northern India would be majority mongol and muslim, Timur was extremely brutal and slaughtered every city he conquered

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Christianity worked great until they dropped the part about whites collectively being the body of the one true living God upon the earth to rule all of creation forever. Whites collectively, as the body of Christ, subjugated the earth in the Son's name, and that included enslaving the non white and the slaughter of any who opposed the rule of Heaven. Islam was created for those left out of the salvation of the light, so that instead of being destroyed the dark might be led to worship the light of God. Today Muslims instead worship a cube and no longer recognize the God that they're meant to serve. All who oppose the rule of the one true God are subject to death, because they seek to interfere with the salvation of the light. Love of ones enemies does not preclude the possibility that their death is required. Those who fail to submit are guilty and there is no condemnation from heaven for their destruction. It is because of love that such enemies should be afforded the option to worship the one true living God instead of being summarily slaughtered as they surely all deserve.
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>>18255984
what does exodus 20:21 say?
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>>18246574

Deuteronomy 23:7
Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.
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>>18257711
>we wuz egyptians and edomites
lol, no
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Was he right?
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>>18255849

> religion keeps us from starving to death on Nazino Island or getting mass-beheaded by the Paris Commune.

Maybe He really does care.
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>>18257666
if by right you mean call you for what you are, sure you're welcome
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>>18255849

They won’t murder the rich regardless
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>>18255849
He certainly had a great deal of money.
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>>18255857
>luigi
Women go crazy over literally any hot murderer, CEO or otherwise

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First question: is it true to say that (at least Joseon) Korean meritocracy was focused on its scholars (as seen in the literati purges), while Japan’s meritocracy was focused on its samurai class?
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What era are you talking about? The "samurai class" evolved over time. And there was nothing inherently meritocratic about it, unless you consider a cut-throat battle royale between major samurai clans to be a fair contest. It wasn't, though. Some clans had considerably more power, influence, and wealth as a result of their inherited position, while others had to scrabble for any scrap they could get.
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>>18258860
Chinese invented meritocratic government during Song.
Japan built its state apparatus on top of Sui-Tang system, hence never even entertained the idea of a meritocratically selected leadership class.

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>>18258829
The Graph gonna go only higher from here on.
Goyim have the internet now.
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Your graph implies the opposite
>goes up during some of the worst mass mortality events in human history
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This graph is total nonsense

>Hadrian's genocide of Judea doesn't even register
>pogroms that accompanied the First Crusade also nonexistent
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>>18258877
>human civilization thrives when jews are getting BTFO

Who could've thunk!
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>>18258877
>Kike removal directly results in the plague ceasing>>18258829

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Why do jews love causing wars?
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>>18258737
Shitler must've been a jew.

The writings of the Church Fathers span tens of thousands of works, orders of magnitude more vast than the Jewish collection of the Talmud or the Muslim Hadiths. The Patrologia Latina alone spans 217 volumes in total!
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>>18258750
>The first person to mention the subject of successionism in this thread was this person here:
You're being dishonest. Your post here >>18257157 was clearly written with the aim of promoting Baptist successionism, even if you didn't explicitly say that. It's also rooted in a fundamentally anti-Catholic polemic.

>How is the Bible off topic for this thread?
Because the Bible is a distinct corpus of writings from the Church Fathers. It's really that simple.

>I don't really have to, the Bible already does.
No it doesn't.

>Yes, I know that; it's based on the Bible, not on anyone's interpretations. That is why, you know, I have been the one quoting it.
No it's based on your interpretation which is extremely controversial and not in any way agreed upon by a multitidue of other Christians who have read the Bible as thoroughly as you claim to have done. Honestly your rhetoric is disgusting.

>I will accept this concession, especially since there are plenty of patristic sources that support me (see pic rel, and the various other sources posted here).
No concession was ever made you're just arguing out of bad faith because you're not really seeking the truth anymore. No anyone who reads this thread knows you just want to win at any cost because of how your beliefs have been exposed as extremely foolish.

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>>18258825
>Your post here >>18257157(You) was clearly written with the aim of promoting Baptist successionism
Disagree.

>Because the Bible is a distinct corpus of writings from the Church Fathers. It's really that simple.
What's going on here is that you want to be able to pretend to be talking about Christian topics, but without having to deal with those pesky facts from the inspired Scripture. You want to get away from that somehow. So you actually unironically try to cry off-topic now when anything in the Bible is brought up as being relevant to the OP subject.

It's kind of like how atheists are always wanting to make a religion board on here because they want to pretend their view of history is the default. They don't want to deal with those facts about Christianity being treated on the same level as other historical sources, even though they clearly deserve to be. There is no reason to artificially exclude Christianity from history or humanities, as if the two were assumed to be mutually exclusive.

You have done the same here. You would like very much to assume that what you consider to be church fathers (i.e. patristics) is something to be discussed entirely distinctly from the Bible itself. It seems you want to be rid of the Bible. Any crossover between the two in your mind is equated to some kind of contamination and automatically makes the subject off-topic. When it's really not at all. And many of the actual people you are quoting would, I imagine, abhor such a view. They wouldn't want you to talk about their works in complete isolation to the Bible, as if we were in some kind of a vacuum - to the point where you object to any reference to it as being off topic. At least, the believing ones wouldn't want that.
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>>18258840
>What's going on here
What's going on here is that you're a bad faith debater that wants to make it appear like they've won. It's that simple, honestly. What's going on is that you derailed this thread into a discussion about Baptist successionism but now you want to change the topic to infant baptism in scripture because of how badly you got defeated by the other posters in this thread. It's your way of retreating and then declaring victory because nobody wants to engage you on a topic you've been engaged on a million different times in a million different threads. As the other anon said above you've been spamming your bullshit here for years. You're like the JW poster that used to be here a while back. You've not won a single convert here Cletus and you won't ever because anyone with two brain cells can see through your obvious bullshit.
>inb4 victim signaling and triumphalist rhetoric to paint yourself as the victor
Yeah it's not going to work, Cletus. We know how you work at this point.
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>>18258840
Forgot pic to >>18258858
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>>18257011
>Church Fathers
Thanks for admitting you're LARPing. Enjoy Hell.

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If Judaism had went on to become the dominant religion of the West, would we still have Christmas kitsch, but Hannukah-themed instead?
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>>18254209

I don't see why not
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>>18257623
Judaism is not a proselytizing religion. It is not an alternative to Christianity that “could have become a world religion,” nor is it the case that, absent Christianity, large portions of the world would be Jewish. Judaism has never had a mandate to convert others, and it has never functioned that way.
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>>18258841
they forcefully converted the Galileans
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>>18258843
What do you even mean?
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>>18258844
the Hasmonean dynasty forced Galilee to adopt Judaism

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Was Brutalism used as a deliberate tool of demoralizing the populace, or was it a genuine attempt to modernize city centers for beneficial reasons?
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>>18258842
Why didn't the people in those buildings just decorate them?

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Tell me your favourite "alternate histories" that you like to ponder on, /his/.

Nothing boring like "what if germany didn't lose" but something you think feasibly could have happened, and how you think it'd shape history.

For example; what if Britian prevented the Thirteen Colonies from rebelling?
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>>18257823
The main challenge was not Germany. The challenges were

1. America. We were heavily in debt to them. Defaulting would've further damaged London's credibility as a financial centre. America was also at this point significantly richer. They could outspend and outproduce us. Our government opted for cooperation with them, but by staying off gold and developing the sterling area, we could've caught up. But that leads to problem 2

2. Nationalism in the colonies. There's no easy way to fix this. Decades of western education meant that even the most third world colonies have a sense of nationalism. The white Dominions certainly did not want to listen to London anymore. And without this network, competition with America was not going to work. They'd have to be kept on side at all costs, and by force if necessary.
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What if Queen Jadwiga married her fourteen-year-old fiancé, William of Habsburg?
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What if Belgium purchase Cuba (1837) and Japan buy northern Philippines (1896) while Germany get southern half from Spain?
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What if North Korea gain access mecha technology, geass eyes, and cyborg ninja?
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>>18258260
>>18257899
This.

>byzantine egypt
>Habsburg bohemia
>Early 1700s new spain/mexico
I want to visit some "nothing ever happens" places in history that had absolutely no sway in their respective empires but were nonetheless peacefull and prosperous. What are some other examples that sort of, "survived" for a tourist to see the remains of?
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>>18254797
>I want to visit some "nothing ever happens" places in history

You can visit Europe rn, nothingest place in history since WW2 Ended.
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>>18254797
Switzerland
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>>18255159
how would you talk to them? is your koine up to the task?
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>>18254829
come on, there were whole YEARS without religious strife, people thrown out of windows and trying to start all sorts of thirty years' wars.
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>>18254797

The Belle Epoque

Why is the historical Jesus so readily accepted based on a couple of records, but everyone always gets quiet when you mention those same records indicate his real father was a Roman soldier whose tomb you can actually visit?
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>>18255002
>Hi, I am Ralph Ellis and these are my crazy ideas.
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>>18256455
Thats a different Ralph Ellis. He doesn't quite look that bad. He is more of an Indiana Jones Codplay Character.
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He would have physically descended from David via Mary and legally through Joseph's adoption.

Also the Messiah descendant of Eve who stomps the head of the serpent in Genesis is prophesied to be "the seed of the woman" which kind of implies there's no human father. Unless I'm mistaken, seed elsewhere refers to the male parent.
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>>18256455
>>18256473
Ralph Ellis is yet another topic-sliding shill that doesn't want anything to do with Juba II in order to avoid having to discuss the origin of the "Messiah" term and thus not piss off the Vatican, retarded biblethumpers and Jews. Instead he sandbags the topic by focusing on the later parts of the first century and people only peripherally relevant to Juba II and how he married Glaphyra in order to give the Judahites their "Messiah" from the authentic namesake lineage of the term itself.
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>>18254873

Nope :T

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I think the Medieval Swedish crusades and colonization of Finland were interesting.
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>>18255911
False
t. been in Finland
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>>18255953
Also the coast of Finland was already very Christianized from the East. Swedes just forced them to be Catholics now instead of Orthodox. That being said there were clashes with the Finnish pagans inland, the Tavastians in particular resisted conversion violently at first.
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>>18255911
There definitely are finns who look asian, or at least mixed race, especially in the east and north. But yes, throw a dart at finnish population and you'd get a guy with less than 5% non-european ancestry
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>>18256090

This

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Considering all of the Americas had migrants from Europe, why don't other countries celebrate Thanksgiving? The interaction between natives and migrants couldn't have been a US exclusive thing.
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>>18257517


YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL.
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>>18257499
Because Thanksgiving as you know it was created by Lincoln, not the pilgrims.
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>>18257520
YOU ARE A MEXSHITCAN FROM MONTERREY
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>>18257505
/thread

OP is a retard
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>>18257499

They did

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>ACK!
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>>18257647

His name lives on, though


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