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Someone here asked for proof that Zanj were mentioned by contemporary sources in 9th century Iraq.

>>18404367

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18392571/#q18404367

Twelver Shia hadith mentioning Zanj.

https://islamicvirtues.com/2014/01/26/shiite-racism/

https://www.chiite.fr/en/m_racism.html

https://www.ahlulsunnah.net/articles/racism-in-shia-hadith
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>>18413021
Twelver Shia hadith on black bantus, Kurds, Khazars, Sindhis, Gandharans and Indians

There's some hadith in Twelver Shia that are racist against blacks (zanj bantus), Kurds, Khazars, Sindhis, Gandharans and Indians.

It says not to marry them and that blacks are a deformed creation and Khazars are untrustworthy.

https://islamicvirtues.com/2014/01/26/shiite-racism/

https://www.chiite.fr/en/m_racism.html

https://www.ahlulsunnah.net/articles/racism-in-shia-hadith

Why did Khomeini deviate from traditional Twelver beliefs and create a new ideology fused with third worldism? Khomeini approved trannie surgeries unlike other Twelver Ayatollahs like Sistani (who is against trannies) and Khoei (who affirmed all the racist hadith as authentic).


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History of the law.
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Turdy retard.
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Sabrina should be tortured.

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They're more often stereotyped as literal cavemen than the more primitive people's of Africa. They independently developed agriculture and iron metallurgy, "civilized" most of SSA via the Bantu, and even those mud huts everyone hates were only universal amongst poors and remained popular because they were simple, easy, and worked quite well. Technologically speaking, I think they can really only be harshly criticized for their lack of nautical ability (Homo Erectus unironically might've been superior to them in that area, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about that particular subject to say so with certainty).
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>>18411347
>europeans never gave that much of a shit
Lmao peak sour grapes.

>why invest so many resources in expeditions when you can easily just buy nigger slaves from the local ooga booga kang?
Countless forts and incursion attempts and military movements says otherwise.
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>>18411767
There wasn't really a plan to settle the entire continent, it's always been too much of a shithole filled with creatures that are so visually horrendous no one would like to live there, in South Africa, however (the only actual place where europeans had an actual plan to settle where europeans did plan to settle), they did so easily and humilliated the africans so fucking hard that the entire world begged them to stop cucking them so much with apartheid>>18411767
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>>18403622
>piggy-backed off the Arabs
>off the Arabs
>Arabs
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>>18411721
>You mean besides the fact it looks like the restroom shack of some camp ground even tho it's supposed to be a royal palace?
Nah it doesn't you are just mad for being proved wrong and then exposed for asking the AI chatbot for help.
>Yeah that's also the moment they started fighting battles there in the first place
They started in the 15th century, Portuguese tried to raid some villages in the Senegambian region only to got their ass kicked by the locals, which is why they started moving south and targeted less developed area in terms of military power
>>18411873
>There wasn't really a plan to settle the entire continent, it's always been too much of a shithole
Portuguese founded the settle colonies of Angola and Mozambique, some of them moved to Kongo and married local women. In the later centuries Europeans founded settlements near the forts in West Africa and sometimes married locals.
Are you gonna randomly post images of European castles to deflect from this claim too?
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>>18411417
God I wish I had a black gf

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>God himself came down from heaven to die for your sins
>you have people who reduce it all down to adults believing in fairy tales

It's always amazing how people have the audacity to be like that. It brings to mind the thief on the cross story. The good thief asked if the other one was afraid of God by making fun of him. Never a better question has been asked.

Imagine reducing Christ's death on the cross into unicorns, sky fairies, fairy tales, etc. and having no fear of God. Imagine taking it so lightly like it's a joke. God's going to make a joke out of you. The Bible says he shall laugh to the wicked. God said one sentence in the Bible so the disciples would hear it and it wasn't even anything negative. Only a positive message that they heard. Even that scared the living crap out of them. Imagine the same God literally laughing at you. People nowadays blow off their mouths without thinking even one nanosecond what they're saying. That's not normal.

You say atheists can be good or moral people, well no. I'm not going to believe that for one second I'm sorry. I've never seen even one single atheist who's not a blasphemous jerk whose only purpose is to bully other people.
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>>18412489
Give me answers to the following. A straight yes or no to each. Feel free to expand your reasoning after giving me a straight yes / no. If you can't I'll consider Christianity debunked:

Do you believe the universe is 6000 years old?
Do you believe people who died without ever knowing Jesus will be tortured in Hell for eternity?
Do you believe guilt is inherited, and that Eve eating a piece of fruit is a crime worthy of punishing all mankind?
Do you believe there were dinosaurs on the Ark?
Do you believe global genocide by Yahweh such as in the flood or as he did to the children in Egypt is morally good?
Do you believe it was morally good for God to permit the murder of Job's family, and Job's torture by Satan, just to win a bet against the Adversary?
Do you believe Lot's wife deserved death by being turned into salt for the crime of being upset by her God brutally murdering everyone she had ever known, every single friend she ever had?
Do you believe it is right for children to be mauled to death by bears for mocking a bald man?
Do you believe the Bronze age storm deity of the Canaanites created the Cosmos?
Do you believe that the use of the plural "Elohim", references to the council of deities, historical and archeaological proof of Judeo-Christian belief being predated by henotheistic Yahwism and even earlier polytheism including deities such as El, Baal, Asherah, is all somehow fake and was planted by the devil to test your faith?
Do you reject all other ancient mythologies, despite not reading their associated tales, and consider them fairy tales, while treating the mythological stories of the culture your were raised in to be uniquely true and special?
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>>18412489
>6000 year old Earth
>No Dinosaurs
>No Lucy
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>>18412933
>ñlater
Fatal mistake, ese.
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>>18412489
Christianity won't even last 3,000 years. It's the machine that unplugs itself. Meanwhile there's 30,000 years of deities and animist worship
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>>18412489
tl;dr post physique

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Why does God require 100% certainty, but your wifes faithfulness does not?
>I haven't seen my wife cheat
You're not supposed to.
>There's no evidence of my wife cheating
There isn't supposed to be.
>It's unlikely my wife will or has cheated on me.
False. 1 in 5 wives have admitted to cheating at least once in marriage.

There are hundreds of thousands of wives who cheat. Yet yours is different? Why?
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>>18412775
>1 in 5 wives have admitted to cheating at least once in marriage.
The point of stoning them is to make them afraid of doing it. A man who sleeps with another man's wife deserves death.
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>>18412775
>Why does God require 100% certainty
I'm an atheist but I don't actually need god to be proven with 100% certainty in order to believe in him. Only presups and new atheists are obsessed with 100% certainty with regards to the god question and related topics.
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>but your wifes faithfulness does not?
The TRVKE answer is that men were not meant to have just one wife but many in a polyamorous relationship and vice-versa. "Cheating" is a social construct meant to deprive man and women of their primal needs, humans are fundamentally social animals
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You can't prove anything with 100% certainty. Not a single thing.

Is it me or does the 19th century like to connect itself to previous eras of history?
>most archaeological excavations of ancient artifacts was from the 19th century
>most common deceptions of classical Greece and Rome are from paintings from the 19th century
>most famous castle by king ludwig ii is based off medieval castles and was built in the 19th century
>most iconic iterature about the renaissance and enlightenment is from the 19th century
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>>18409996
Don't kid yourself.
Archaeologists of the 19th century like William Buckland, Richard Owen, Ernest de Sarzec and Robert Koldewey helped discover many prehistoric and ancient artifacts through archeology. This archeology at the time may sound and look unadvanced compared to the latter years of archeology, but it was more foundational and helped revolutionise our understanding of ancient history.
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>>18412827
There are probably movements like this but nobody knows anything about them. Mostly because society has turned to consumerism. I hate the modern world
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>>18409958
Marx considered the known history of the previous centuries but a thin tissue of lies invented to perpetrate the aristocracies vanities, Marx instead invented the materialistic style of history that concentrated on aspects such as resources and challenges in different geographical regions.
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>>18409958
I want to live here so bad.
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>>18412954
Why was this shit so common in Victorian era/Gründerzeit?
I really was born in the wrong generation.

All sensations and thoughts cease forever at death and life is nothing more than thought and sensation. Every observation supports this and none contradict it. Just one example: sever a man's hand or eye from his brain and he will feel and see from it no more, it will merely rot away. Damage his brain and he will lose the ability to think or form memories. And when at death the entire body disintegrates, he will no longer feel, see, hear, taste, think or remember anything.
This holds true even if we suppose that there is a soul. Because if the soul can cease to experience by injury or sleep, then it can do so in death.
And "near death experiences" prove nothing. These are reports of people still alive with their bodies sufficiently intact. Show me a report from a man who has rotted away into dust. There is none.
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>there is nothing after death
>also I will be spending my limited time alive arguing with losers on the internet
b-based..?
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>>18412121
The fact you're here arguing with him reveals that you think it's okay to waste time because an afterlife exists. Who's really anti-life here?
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>>18409184
>neighbor gets the flu
>schizo retard smears diarrhea on his walls
>neighbor recovers from flu in 2 weeks
very nice
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>>18412100
Irrelevant
>>18412112
Sensation and thought begin with the body, are effected by all the changes of the body. A man loses an eye and can no longer see etc. Why then are we to believe that when a man's body is rotted away into the dust that he still sees, hears, tastes, feels, thinks, remembers and so on...?
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>>18412121
How about you read the thread instead of posting your vapid predictable thoughts?
>>18409127
>>18409167

It's ok to say you don't understand the Trinity and just keep praising God and participate on the Sacraments. You don't need to perfectly rationalize all aspects of your faith. It's ok to say "I don't know".
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>>18412460
> 19 Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” Matthew 18

That is actually correct. The presence of God manifests in mutual gatherings and unites people in one "body".

> Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 1 Corinthians 12

The Trinity is the highest revelation about God's unity without any loss of distinction of the individual persons.
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>>18412460


SUBSTANCE: WHAT IS IN ITSELF.

ESSENCE: WHAT THE ENTITY IS.

NATURE: WHAT AN ENTITY DOES IN VIRTUE OF WHAT IT IS.

PERSON: WHO THE ENTITY IS.
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>>18412509
As I understand it the first verses are talking about agreement being facilitated by the Father, as in multiple people believing in the same thing due to the Father uniting them and not him changing the reality of the number of humans present. It also mentions clearly that they have to gather under one name too. A room full of idolaters with different beliefs is still a room of multiple human beings even with this bizarre understanding. But I mean if you believe 3 people in a room can be 1 human being under any circumstance then polytheism becomes impossible anyway. Someone worshiping the individual members of the ancient Greek pantheon can also be said to worship divinity as a single being in a sense
>unity without any loss of distinction of the individual persons
I don't understand why you have to take it literally. Why is this not just talking about people who have a common purpose to believe in Christ and all that.
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>>18412530
It's not reducing the individual people in the room, but Christ is the "glue" that unites them all together.

Maybe a better example is a modern corporation. Walmart is a distinct entity, but it really made up of a bunch of different individuals participating in the singular corporation. There are plenty of different beliefs and positions within the individuals, but Walmart is the "glue" organizing them all.

> Why is this not just talking about people who have a common purpose to believe in Christ and all that.
It is, but in Christianity theology there is almost always supposed to be a higher aspect than just a simple community of believers.
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>>18412420
>You can't
>You don't

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If only someone would have reminded me.
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I remember Texas kick ass
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I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE THAT SADDAM BIN LADEN DID THAT.
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>>18412596
You know that place is almost forgotten

>reparations made Haiti poor
Then why aren't France or Germany or Japan poor when they all had to pay much larger reparations throughout their history?
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>>18412687
La ferrierre is really damn impressive for what it is. Even if the strategic thinking that lead to it wasn't very sound.
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>>18412709
Somalia must be rich now since they've been receiving billions in aid for decades and what and how much aid you get is the sole determinant in a country's wealth.
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>>18412883
>they've been receiving billions in aid for decades
Billions is tiny you myopic retard. Much more so when it was a miniscule trickle.
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>>18412922
And rich states burn way way more budget money or go through debt for much more frivolous shit. So the idea that aid is wasteful is inherently silly, especially when aid has been cut for ages at this point and the major polluters and carbon spewing states all refuse to pay into climate relief and assistance.
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>>18408758
>Germany started one war because of it
I was in high school when Germany finished paying the indemnities for WWI

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What do you think of the Grand Admiral?

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Do Muslims, Jews, and Christians(Roman Catholics) worship the same God?
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>>18412912
Nobody goes to the Father except through me.
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>>18412912
Yahweh-El-Baal

Yeshua-Theos

Allah (from Al-lat [f.])

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Lat

All different gods in a sense. None of which are good. Jews and Muslims deny the divinity of Christ. Christ is an inversion of El-Baal-Yahweh of the Torah. The Koran never ever uses the term Yahweh and to use it is considered blasphemous or idolatry by some.
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>>18412912
Accoding to the Catholic Church yes.

Evangelicals be like:
>We don't need no education
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>>18410861
We choose which still apply based on the revelation of God in the New Testament. The law consists of three parts, moral, ceremonial, and judicial. The first is concerned with strict right and wrong, and has always been binding on all men everywhere, and is summarized in the Ten Commandments. The second consists of religious rites and precepts peculiar to the Jews, which served to prefigure Christ and distinguish the Messianic people from the rest of mankind. These were fulfilled by Christ, and are forbidden to keep today, since in so doing one denies Christ. The third is concerned with righteous governance of a commonwealth by application of the former laws by the state. This applies in part, as the model or foundation from which modern nations are to pursue obedience to God and His blessing. The determination of what laws abide today is determined entirely by categorization within these three groups, and not by our feelings or whatever flaming faggots and middle class white women tell themselves.
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>>18411293
>popery moment
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>>18411327
its closer to judaism than anything, and i think can best be summed up by the jewish adage "it was real in my mind"

what part of christ's flesh do they imagine themselves eating?
what is the only piece of flesh that ever left his body?
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I was raised in a totally areligious environment. Nobody ever mentioned religion, except historical mythology. Growing up and seeing people actually believe this shit was totally disorienting. It’s like going outside and being met with millions of people praying to Ra so their sports team will win or some shit.
A lot of people would unironically go insane if they had this experience.
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>>18410828
>cargo cult
where were you when "reformed" admitted they don't have the same power from the Holy Spirit that the apostles do, because they aren't really the same catholic and apostolic church of Nicaea which understood itself to be thusly empowered through the laying of hands and hence truly apostolic in the legitimate succession

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What would Karl Marx think of the legacy of his ideology today?
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>>18412893
The guy is dead; only we live. Its up to us what we do with his legacy; Marx is dead.

how do we make the West an abrahamic society again ?
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>>18412481
>>18412490
>>18412503
It's like you asked an AI to schizopost. Let me try:

THEY'RE IN THE WALLS! The Catholic Church is poisoning us with parasite wafers! Jesus wasn't crucified—that was their clone! The real Jesus is the Blue-Eyed Frequency, trapped in the ozone, broadcasting warnings through my fillings!

The Pope is the Vampire of Christ, wearing red shoes to hide the blood. Their Trinity is a Quadri-Father scam: Fake, Thief, Banker, and Radio Tower blocking the signal with lead mitres and demon incense!

Confession booths suck souls for the Black Pope who eats baby shadows. The upside-down cross drains Heaven into Hell while good dinosaurs wait in the hollow Earth!

Burn your rosary—it screams in reverse Latin! Smash the chalice before the hologram Jesus wins and we all become barcode nuns!Jesus is screaming through the chemtrails: FREE THE FREQUENCY! Blue eyes forever! They're listening RIGHT NOW. Run! Not to church! Never to church!
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It doesn’t stop you from making Jesus Christ of Truth in his second coming your pope and eternal rabbi king when he comes.

He’s your king of hell with the keys.

And when he does, he’ll be a lion this time not a sweet lamb.

And that marriage of the heart that is invisible will be vengeance in and of itself once it becomes manifest for eternity.

I am victorious while you tremble in your spirit of fear.
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Crown of thorns.
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>>18411950

>Picture suggests the "solution" to women's relationship troubles is to marry another man who shares the same race, tribe, and God.
>Picture then suggests this can be accomplished through Christianity; a religion that has fundamentally spear headed globalization, miscegenation, and has people worship a foreign semitic god.

Christian Nationalism doesn't make any fucking sense.
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>>18412214
There is no evidence Joseph was real, much less a pharaoh.


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