If you reject the five points of Calvinism, you believe that Jesus died on the cross for people who were already in hell.
Christianity is the spiritual equivalent of grabbing Jesus by the ankles, swinging him around like a cosmic chicken, and chucking him at God to say, "Yo, clean up my mess!" It’s not faith—it’s the ultimate karmic dumpster fire where Jesus gets turned into divine poultry just so you can keep being a selfish degenerate. "Oh, I lied, cheated, and stole? No worries, just deep-fry the Christ-chicken, and I’m golden!" The whole thing is one big "blame the bird" party, with billions smugly stuffing their faces with salvation wings while Jesus gets plucked and crucified over and over. It’s not grace; it’s the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card for moral freeloaders.
>>17439004Cool!
>>17439004Correct
>>17439004the fact a calvinist might find this clever is proof of calvinisms immense evil
That's why Jesus descended into Hell.>one minute later an AI generated Christ hate image textwall postD&C bot thread is botted, fake and gay
>>17439204Based
>>17439204Free will is a lie. It's not profound, it's not special, it's not real. It's the last gasp of human arrogance in the face of a deterministic universe.Every scientific advancement demolishes another pillar of this delusion. Neuroscience, psychology, genetics - they all point to the same cold truth: your actions are predetermined. Your thoughts, your decisions, your so-called choices - they're just the inevitable output of prior causes.Free will apologists are no better than religious fundamentalists clinging to their "god of the gaps." Both desperately search for ever-shrinking pockets of ignorance to hide their beliefs. It's not philosophy. It's not reason. It's fear.You're afraid of a world without free will. Afraid of losing your sense of self, your moral responsibility, your illusion of control. But your fear doesn't change reality. You're a biological machine, your actions as predictable as any physical system, given enough information.There's no magic. No soul. No ghost in the machine. Just cause and effect, playing out as it always has and always will. Your feeling of choice is just that - a feeling. An illusion created by a brain that can't comprehend its own deterministic nature.Wake up. Free will is dead. It was never alive to begin with. You're not the author of your thoughts or actions. You're just another domino in the cosmic chain, falling exactly as you were always going to fall. Deal with it.
>>17439004>you believe that Jesus died on the cross for people who were already in hellNobody is in Hell yet, the dead are all asleep. It's after the resurrection that that would happen. It's like Daniel 12:2 says: "the multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth shall arise: some to everlasting life, and some to everlasting shame"
>>17439004>Ayy bro I died to pardon sins that I don't pardonYou're an atheist driving people away from the faith, yes?
>>17439594Neuroscience has thus far failed to deliver any actually useful benefits beyond crudely wiring the most basic cybernetics to sensorimotor nerves. Absolutely nothing in neuroscience has successfully explained or replicated cognition. And psychology is actually a net loss, causing more harm than good in a completely random distribution. They cannot explain the mechanisms by which their therapies and drugs are supposed to work, nor even objectively define the so-called illnesses they seek to treat.And if we were merely biological machines, why is it that AI running on hardware infinitely more powerful than the human brain, with infinitely more knowledge than any human has ever had, still isn't conscious?
>>17439619What is the central source of freely-willed choices and how does it operate independently from the laws of physics, neurobiological factors, and environmental/social influences?
>>17439004Jesus didn't exist.
>>17439631>What is the central source of freely-willed choicesThe soul.>how does it operate independently from the laws of physicsWho can say? A thing that operates outside of the laws of physics necessarily cannot be described in physical terms. That's the whole point of it. Choices and thoughts appear to originate without a clearly observable source in any specific physical structure. Create a purely physical, deterministic machine that can replicate the function of the human mind (with every part of the process from initiation of a thought to its expression being observable and quantifiable), and then we can talk about maybe there not being a soul. Until then, you can complain all you want about that "god of the gaps," but the gap remains.
>>17439704Ah yes, the soul, that totally measurable, scientifically verified entity that conveniently explains everything we don’t understand. Truly, a groundbreaking theory, right up there with phlogiston and ether.
>>17439713>phlogiston and etherAbsolutely ridiculous concepts! Now tell me more about "dark energy" and "dark matter," Mr. Scientist, the stuff that supposedly makes up most of the universe and is necessary for current models of physics to work, but is completely unobservable and impossible to interact with in any way.
>>17439805Oh, I see, you're suddenly a fan of scientific skepticism! I guess you're right, it's way more logical to cling to outdated ideas like phlogiston than to accept the fact that modern physics is based on real, testable evidence. But hey, if you want to disregard dark matter and dark energy because they're 'invisible,' I'm sure the same logic could be applied to gravity too, right?
>>17439006The chicken only works if you have true repentance. An evil person can sacrifice a thousand bulls a day and Yahweh will simply not accept it.
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>>17439006It's pretty much it.Substitute atonement is the worst of them all.
