It seems like most people on the left don’t really know what to do with Franco’s Spain in regards to categorization.On the one had they DONT want to call it Fascist because it lasted for 30 years and didn’t ultimately collapse into civil war or destroy itself by invading all of its neighbors in a seemingly self conscious suicidal death drive and that’s big part of what the left points to among the supposed fundinental flaws of fascism.On the other hand though they absolutely want to be able to condemn the regeim as fascist and label anyone who proposes the the same policies today as fascist.Beyond the left some people on the right and center find it strange to label Franco’s regeim fascist as he remained neutral in World War Two and ultimately joined NATO along with the wrest of Western Europe.What do you think /pol/?Was Franco an example of actually existing Fascism as a long running experiment??(Also be curious what you guys think of Salazar Portugal as well?)
>>18669463Franco's main goal was to just stop the commies from taking over.
He forced the fascists and the turbo autistic monarchists into the same party so they neutralized each other
>>18669463It started out very influenced by fascism, but it didn't take too long to transition into a run-of-the-mill dictatorship.The more government-ran-economic ideas, really very socialist oriented, of the Falangist I know were abandoned. And once the 80s started rolling around, it was very much a free market kinda state, and that really makes it no different from any other right wing dictatorship.Fascism can be a broad category, I definitely think Franco was at the least adjacent to it. But he was never a revolutionary man, and that kept Spain in a kinda awkward place.
>>18669777My experience is also that if you try to argue that Franco wasn’t necessarily a fascist, dumber leftists try to see that as whitewashing, instead of realizing that even if authoritarism sucks, not every authoritarian is fascist.But the real answer is along the lines of >>18672372. Franco’s movement was initially a really weird mismash of traditional conservatives, fascists and hardcore monarchist-catholic reactionaries, a very Spanish mixture of politics that really could only exist in that particular place and location. And sure, the fascists left their handprint on Franco’s politics, but really only temporarily and it didn’t take long enough for the regime to become a typical authoritarian-conservative nationalist regime.And yeah, it would be dumb to pretend that Franco wasn’t fascist-adjacent at least, but on the other hand, grouping him with Mussolini or Hitler would be just as bad mistake.
>>18669463He was latin american dictator stuck in Europe
Muslims often use Muhammad’s story to support his prophethood. He is generally portrayed as a man who was kind, honest, and already had everything.After receiving revelations, he put everything at risk to preach Islam and lost everything. Him and his followers eventually faced persecution and were exiled by the pagans before he came back later with an army.However, all of this information is only in the Islamic sources written more than a century later, and history is generally written by the victors, who skew the narrative one one direction that suits them and twists the details.We don’t actually have much in terms of written records from the Arab pagan tribes that Muhammad fought against, so we have no way of knowing their side of the story or what their experiences with him were like. Everything was communicated orally back then, and any written records they did have that talked negatively about Muhammad were probably destroyed.There are always two perspectives to a conflict, and both deserve to be heard. Determining if Islam is true and if Muhammad was really a prophet based only off of one source that was purposely meant to skew in his favour doesn’t work.For example, Muhammad claimed that the Kaaba was built by Abraham and Ishmael before the pagans stole it. The pagans probably would have had a counterargument to that with their own story that one of them built it. The pagans would also probably tell us that the moon split story didn’t happen at all, while the Islamic sources tell us that they saw it and still denied Islam.(Cont)
>>18673205here you go. you haven't proved anything, and calling those people liars is retarded. i am not a scholar or anything so don't expect me to post specific academic links about this topic. but i know all the bs you presented does not prove the existence of islam whatsoever. do you think all these inarah academics are schizos that you can suddenly disprove by showing retarded rock inscriptions which are impossible to date exactly and not about islam or muhammad at all? i'm sorry but your muhammad never existed. there is zero evidence.
>>18673205https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EyGLnz7BGGocheck out the people mentioned in this vid.
>>18673774Thanks for the source. With the full context, Deroche is not talking about the Doctrina Jacobi itself but rather the Greek copies of the Doctrina Jacobi holding alterations that make reconstructing the original Greek text in certain parts not so possible. Things like the preface were removed that other editions (Arabic and Slavic editions) of the work still contain despite not copying off each other but rather another lost Greek copy which still had it.All the editions have the exact same mentioning of the coming of the Saracens with the new prophet (meaning this was not made up by later scribes), and Deroche does not claim that the Doctrina Jacobi is a forgery. Thank you for proving my point and showing that the video you provided misused that quote to mean something else entirely different.You can read it here by the way:https://archive.org/details/dagron-deroche-juifs-chretiens/>calling those people liars is retardedNever have I called them liars, I called the video a liar. Which it is by misusing a quote. By the way, the Doctrina Jacobi is not the only text we have like I mentioned! You cannot explain away the fact that there are agreeing unrelated texts.>do you think all these inarah academics are schizos that you can suddenly disproveNo, but their arguments are shitty as I've shown by direct evidence and their arguments hold no water to the majority of academics in their field who have already written plenty of counterarguments of which I have not seen the Inarah institute address.>impossible to date exactlyThey are dated by the dates explicitly written on them, the fact of their script style which can be compared to other Arabic rock inscriptions of the same time that hold differing script styles to inscriptions before and after its time, and by using historical contexts included within them that match the written history of its time.Also please show me how they are not about Islam or Muhammad when I've already shown you that they are.
Do any of those rock carvings speak of lil moe moe getting stuffed with zutt nigger dick?
>>18674124the text doesn't say anything about muhammad himself. also if we accept that it was actually written in 634 that's 2 years after the muhammad character already died according to the mainstream narrative. there isn't a single rock inscription or document clearly proving the existence of a historical person named MHMD, all the stuff you see on those texts you are interpreting them according to the mainstream narrative. for example you see the word the prophet or messenger of allah and you say look this is the proof of muhammad, no it isn't.i'm not going to discuss this further because clearly it's a waste of time for both of us. if you want to know more i already posted a couple links check those channels if you like.
America would have benefited from staying neutral during the war. What did Carl Weiss have against Nazi Germany?
There is no friggen way Long would have beaten Roosevelt had he lived. Roosevelt was already set to win. Long's death just made that win even bigger.
>>18674003Justly so. The ideals of democracy know no borders.
>>18673785Nazi Germany declared war on the US first after Pearl Harbor
>>18674003And now you've moved from just be neutral and the fascists will leave you alone to just let the fascists control your foreign policy or they will attack you. Yet you don't see the problem?
>it's another "the nazis should've won because i dont like jews" threadhow many of these do we really need?
Is Judaism indisputably true?
>>18674023Only because the loopholes were deemed to be acceptable, which does not discount them from being blatantly loopholes. The actual laws the loopholes are made for and their intent are very clear, with the loopholes established contrary to those intents but kept out of pure convenience.
>>18673925>rather they were prosecuted for crimes such as vandalism, lynchings of pagan priesthoods, and overall being violent savages no different from BLMnice fanfiction>Christians already viewed Rome as the kingdom of Satan on earth and it’s gods as demons, so it’s not out of place for a Christian to want to burn it all downheadcanon
>>18674031Explain the laws and the intent then and how the loopholes violate them
>>18673918>Being able to maintain a wire around a place fundamentally changes your relationship to that placeSounds like Catholic nonsense
>>18674089Having a wire around a town or a neighborhood makes it fundamentally different than a separate neighborhood or a town or a whole country or a wilderness.
How can you kill a god?
>>18674036Fucking heretic scum. What is math to God?
>>18674096>SHUT UP IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE JUST BELIEVE
>>18674096God is reason itself, so naturally he should not contradict himself
>>18674133>naturallyTo you.
>>18674034This is Miaphysitism, you would have been killed for saying this after the council of Chalcedon in 451.
>blablabla you're allowed one meta thread blablablaThe poster ranking of /his/ are currently as follows;-The Objective worst posters here;>The Chinkspammer>The Infograph spammer (nobody is reading your jpegs, engage in discussion like someone with a functional brain please)>/int/ tourists-Mid tier posters;>/pol/ transplants>the bulk of the religious/atheist shitTop-tier posters;>That one seething Pollack who is always shitposting about how Stalin saved the white race>All the namefags because attaching a name to a schizopost makes it easier to not take you as seriously and/or allows people to filter you
>>18674214This image is so dumb, it only takes like two days of lurking to know who the regular schizos on a given board are and 4chan has always been like this anyways
Worst: that dumbass who samefags to shit threads because hes always losing arguments, namefags and tripfagsBest: me, my style is recognizable even if I didnt use a name.... however, this place is such a shitshow (because tou retards keep on engaging in shit bait threads) that theres no point in coming here anymore
why is this board infested with so many namefags and general low tier shitters, especially since the board is slow as hell
>>18674231you have two competing factions of posters on /his/, in one corner you have people who think they're way smarter than they actually are so they come to the history board with takes they don't realize are either completely stale or completely baseless and in the other corner you have shitposters who are just here to bait psueds into crashing out. The latter is based and the former is cringe by the way
Is this even true? How prevalent was Western European men's tolerance towards both sloppy seconds cuckoldry & marital cuckoldry? Plz tell me this is some fake n gay feminist slop and not a legit heritage of Western Europe
>>18671184It's not banned as such. However, you have to go to court to get one which makes it expensive.
This is brutal.I suspect this to be a uniquely Western European phenomena
>>18668753>completely made up shit in AI animated tiktok format
>>18672914>Arab Fantasy SlopMy god, so the porn spamming isn't even a new thing. They're all inbred so all they can do is fantasize about fucking non-inbreds.>>18671631Granting the third world access to the internet is a mistake. In the future we should vet anyone trying to access the internet, and anyone who is from an inbred shit-hole needs to be banned, because they clearly don't have the intellect to parse reality.>>18670940>>18670935>>18670847>>18670846I mean jesus fucking christ the reddit midwit spam is out of hand. Mods need to ban these fucking people if they care at all about the quality of discourse.>>18671764>CopeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18670658SAAARS WE WHITE SSAAAARS ARARB ARE WHITE SAAARS
Were Europeans ever actually going to uplift Africans to their level?
>>18670915Eugenics is flawed not because it wouldn't work but because you can't actually objectively know what traits are harmful and what ones are beneficial. Especially over longer periods of time, what might've been a genetic boon in one time period could eventually become a drawback or outright negative.
>>18672370That's a byproduct of Europeans not knowing what the fuck they were talking about most of the time
>>18668741no. they came to make money. uplifting was merely publicity
>>18672456Do you know what Neolithic means?
Is there an online gallery full of these soulful pre industrial European houses
In the 1800s, the concept of grooming did not exist. Ancient Conservative Opponents to Women's Suffrage argued that Women were too immoral for Suffrage, citing Female Prostitution. Feminists invented the 'White Slavery' Conspiracy Theory where 'Evil Male Oppressors' were seducing Women into Sexual Immorality. Feminists used this Evil Male Oppressor Theory to empower Women, not just through voting rights & equal contractual rights, but also through Women getting the advantage/benefit of the doubt in terms of Divorce/Sexual Harassment Settlements & also in terms of Child Custody Battles. Before Feminism, Men received Custody of Children by Default, Feminism gave Children to Women by default. Feminists also hiked the age of c0nsent & ignored warnings from ancient conservatives who warned that by hiking the age of c0nsent, the door to blackmail operations was being opened via teens lying about age. Due to the silly 'women are grooming victims' narrative, the biological reality of puberty (instead of the 18/21 magical number) being the real adulthood age was ignored.Ancient Conservatives assigned Sexual Immorality to that of the 'Vicious Woman' in contrast to Feminists who claimed that sexually immoral females were 'Victims of Seudction' (Evil Men corrupting Women). Feminists claimed Women's Rights would increase Societal Sexual Morality, as evil men would longer be able to oppress Women. Given the Empirical Results of the Feminist Era & how it increased general sexual immorality, the Ancient Conservatives were correct.Under Ancient Conservatism, a teen prostitute, is a jezebel harlot that tempts a righteous man into acts of immorality. Harlots follow in the footsteps of Eve who ate the Forbidden Fruit & tempted Adam to do the same. Charles Darwin in the 'The Descent of Man' outlines how it is Females that are predominantly behind Sexual Selection across a large variety of Animal Species, including Primates & Humans, thus validating the Ancient Conservative Viewpoint
>>18673513the proto-feminists backed proto-grooming theory based on protecting virgins, but it was not the mainstream opinion. grooming at large as a concept did not exist.
>>18673633They literally convicted people for seducing women, which is functionally identical to grooming. Just because they excluded victims among the poor, the non-virgins and the lower classes from seeking justice doesn't mean that the crime did not exist.
>>18673714They were proto-feminist simps that let the whores off the hook & their evil precedent led to the invention of feminism, I don't deny that. If they could've jailed men for having sex with the non-virgins, they would've done that too.
The only thing worse than the pedophile bots is the retarded and insane collective of camp followers they have. Just look at some of these fucking specimens, I mean really. >>18673178>>18673455
>>18673131>The ordinary teen prostitute working in London or New York wasn't treated as a 'grooming victim'. They were treated like jezebel harlotsOne of the most retarded things I have ever heard. Regardless of the historicity, this is probably one of the few cases where the woman actually was a victim. Reading this thread is giving me fucking vertigo man.
Anti-Catholic/Orthodox Christians, why would God let the Church fall into near complete apostasy so soon after starting?
>>18674072He didn’t, they survived underground and reemerged publicly in the 16th century
Obligatory post
>>18674142kek
>>18674072God did not allow His Church to fall into apostasy, as the Church consists not of the pope, the prelates and the priests, but of all believers in every place, which never fell away. Also, the “so soon after starting” thing is completely asinine. Seriously, can’t you guys read a book just once? These people actually think there were ordained priests running around performing transubstantiation and the sacrifice of the mass under the authority of an infallible pope in the 1st century!
>>18674237>These people actually think there were ordained priests running around performing transubstantiation and the sacrifice of the mass under the authority of an infallible pope in the 1st century!They don't but the titles and positions of things like 'Bishop of Rome' and 'Bishop of Antioch' literally already did exist since the first century and the church always had authority figures in the form of 'presbyters' early on>performing transubstantiation and the sacrifice of the massthe Eucharist did always exist in some form
So basically, dark-skinned Spaniards = Arab ancestry, light-skinned Spaniards = Germanic ancestry?Southern Spain = Al-AndalusNorthern Spain = VisigothsIs that really how Spanish ancestry works?
>>18673186No, the native Iberian population was not displaced by the Celts, Romans, Visigoths, Arabs and Berbers, unlike the Britons by the Anglo-Saxons
nope. though pedro is from the canaries, so yes he is part berber
>>18673186The guy on the right is Basque, zero germongoloid genes.
>>18673960>The guy on the right is BasqueSignificant Bell Beaker and WHG then
Este "español" es mas boliviano que español, perteneciente a la raza cloaca (cloaca gentium), el verdadero negro boliviano de las americas que larpea "español" a pesar de ser negro caca
>KabbalahFix the broken world (Tikkun Olam)>Gnosticism Escape the broken world (Kenoma) and enter the fullness light realm (Pleroma)Did I miss anything?
>>18674167>fundamental basics
>>18674167>Did I miss anything?Obviously Kabbalah does not view adams creation as bad. Gnosticism does.
Valentinian Gnosticism has a neat thing going on where, instead of escaping the material world, you can participate in destroying it but in a good way."From the beginning you are immortal and children of eternal life. You wished to distribute death amongst yourselves so as to consume it and annihilate it, and so that death might die in and through you. For when you dissolve the world and are not yourselves dissolved, you rule over creation and over the whole of corruption." (Fragments of Valentinus)"As someone’s ignorance dissolves when they gain knowledge, and as darkness dissolves when the light appears, so also need dissolves in completion. So the appearance is revealed from then on, but it’ll dissolve in the harmony of Unity. For now, their works lie scattered. In time, Unity will complete the realms. Within Unity each one will receive themselves, and within knowledge they’ll purify themselves from multiplicity into Unity, consuming matter within themselves like fire, and darkness by light, death by life." (Gospel of Truth)In the heresiologist Ireneaus account of their beliefs, they also present the demiurge and the formation of the world as a relatively good though imperfect thing, as part of Sophia's process of recovering from her fall rather than an unfortunate immediate consequence of her fall.https://web.archive.org/web/20250327022911/https://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Valentinian_Creation.htm>The human body is created in order to serve as a vessel in which the spiritual seed will grow to maturity. This is the main purpose of the DemiurgeThis also led them to have a positive attitude toward procreation, unlike most Gnostics.
Just world fallacy
>>18674218Every other political faction on the compass is just Nirvana Fallacy by the same standards so there
>>18674218Here be trannies
>(((rootless cosmopolitans)))
>>18673786communism is the 19th century updated version of christcuckery.
>>18673786>arms Israel
>>18673852>You want to sterilize anyone under 110IQThe irony being he would have to sterilize himself also
>>18673852>kill everyone below 110 IQ>110 IQ becomes the new 100 IQ because 100 IQ must always be the average of a given population>all the former 110 IQ people must also now be executed as they are the new averageWhere does one draw the line? The logical extreme of this is everyone in the country just having to kill themselves
>>18673845Sorry chud, communism bad because youtube video said so
How has north african admixture changed since antiquity?
>>18673581t. seething, coping and malding berber cuck
they got a 10-15% injection of black admix from the trans saharan trade and their natufian admix nearly doubled from arab colonization
>>18673279In the case of egypt, the genetic studies we have show SSA admixture, like 15% iirc, from the post classical period
>>18673692you really are a fattie poopjeet top kek
>>18673279Before Caucasian people arrived it was inhabited by Congoid peoples, afterwards not much changed until the Arabs came, after which they got mixed with them and the SS slaves along with a bit of inbreeding which is why the average modern Nafri is a non-sapient creature who doesn't know anything besides getting the newest most expensive thing he can to flex with and how to move to Europe and get gibs
