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Do media narratives influence history?

Why is the historical Jesus so readily accepted based on a couple of records, but everyone always gets quiet when you mention those same records indicate his real father was a Roman soldier whose tomb you can actually visit?
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>>18255017

Daf Shevui to Avodah Zarah 27b:5
"Most scholars interpret Jacob of Kefar Sekaniah as being a student of Jesus. Jesus was often portrayed as having healing powers....Ben Dama wants to be healed, perhaps by some sort of incantation, which is often the way that Jesus heals. But R. Ishmael does not allow him to do so because of his heresy."
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>>18255017

"We may be entitled to extrapolate as a continuation of that thought that the words: “one of his brethren will redeem him,” is a reference to the Messiah, descendant of David, from the tribe of Yehudah. The use of the word אחד in that verse is justified seeing that the tribe of Yehudah is unique, ‘one of a kind.’ Another meaning of the words אחד מאחיו “one of his brethren,” is that the redeemer will be of flesh and blood, a real relative born of a father and mother just as Moses had been a redeemer born of a father and a mother. ****This may be a polemic by the Midrash against the Christian concept of Jesus not being the son of a biological father and the Romans having adopted the Christian religion as their official religion in the fourth century.**** The view of the sages in the Midrash is that the wording of our paragraph clearly undermines the theological theories of the Christians" Rabbeinu Bahya, Vayikra 25:47
Torah Commentary by Rabbi Bachya ben Asher, trans. Eliyahu Munk, 1998.

Even Jewish sites admit the polemics are sus.
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>>18255017

Also although they're TMI to post here, rabbis were so mad about the virgin-birth prophecy bring fulfilled by Yeshua the Son of God they've spent countless hours redefining "virginity" (umAKSHUALLY it's a "sign" and miracle if she has a child from the first time and and she's also not a virgin if she's used a tampon or other things that are dwelt upon in great detail and added to bible stories and no we aren't perverts- HEY IS THAT A THREE-YEAR-OLD?)

You can look up the medical term for virginity on Sefaria.org if you want to suffer. https://www.sefaria.org/search?q=Hymen&tab=text&tvar=1&tsort=relevance&svar=1&ssort=relevance

I regret ever studying Jewish stuff because like wtf.
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>>18255017

This

It's one of numerous lies from the Pharisees to attack Jesus' status of the Messiah. The Rabbinic Jews to this day repeat this lie; it's not a coincidence that when the Jews took over American media that this lie became mainstream.
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Talmudic thread.

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Chunk of fuselage laying on the ground following the crash of PSA 178 in San Diego on Sept. 25, 1978. In front of it looks like human hair possibly from someone being scalped by the disintegration of the aircraft on impact.
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>>18254833
there was a story of guy who was ejected out the tail section of the plane and launched through the air alive and screaming until he struck the ground
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>>18254833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Southwest_Airlines_Flight_182
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the late 70s was a period of a lot of airline accidents for some reason. they happen in waves and it's a reminder of how air travel has generally gotten a lot safer nowadays for a variety of reasons.
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>>18255269
>the late 70s was a period of a lot of airline accidents for some reason

Probably just an increase in volume outrunning the refinements in safety regulations.

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>>18255262
Sounds like something straight out of the SCP Foundation.

I say fake.
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>>18255262
>historical evidence
b-b-b-b-boi. The Bible is right there.

Merry Christmas. I love God. I love you all. Love peace joy hope light. Thank you Jesus. Love.
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>>18254178

The church hasn't been white since the time of. Simeon the Black and the Ethiopian Philip converted in the New Testament.

We don't care.

This isn't the flex you think it is.

God is the God of all nations.
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>>18255140
That is true to some extent, but God thinks the EXTREME mixing of peoples is an abomination and inevitably leads to disorder
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>The church hasn't been white since the time of. Simeon the Black and the Ethiopian Philip converted in the New Testament.
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>We don't care.
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>This isn't the flex you think it is.
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>God is the God of all nations.
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>>18254984
Why do you hate God?
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>That is true to some extent, but God thinks the EXTREME mixing of peoples is an abomination and inevitably leads to disorder

Merry Christmas! Christ is born.
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>>18254146
>I got refuted and have no argument so let me sperg out
Go adorn your idols, Varg.
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>>18254211
BASED Yulechad
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>>18254236
Yule is a neo-pagan invention.
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>>18254211
Retarded /pol/tranny
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>>18253493
You sure about that?
https://youtu.be/_P4XOiMKLhk?si=8FVBSIpCNc8M4kZC
Where, where, where is Jesus?

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I was reading Ceasar's the Gallic war recently and there was an interesting section claiming that the Brits had multiple men marry and have sex with one woman. The commentary is a bit vague on whether they believe such a practice actually existed, and if it did it was to manage population before agriculture. Was this a real historical practice both in Britain and anywhere else?
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WHAT WOULD WARRANT ANY DOUBT ABOUT THAT BEING PRACTICED BY BRITONIC BARBARIANS? IT SEEMS MORE LIKE DENIAL ON PART OF CONTEMPORARY BRITISH ACADEMICS.
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Not quite but it was common for Celts to have a slave girl that was basically "public property" and every man could fuck
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>>18255293
remember what they stole from us

Concerned that Lee might detach troops to counter Sherman in Georgia, Grant made contingency plans to have the Army of the Potomac chase after him should that happen, while leaving Butler and the Army of the James to watch Richmond. Further, the Confederate garrison at Wilmington, North Carolina might also dispatch part of its force to meet Sherman, and Fort Fisher might be weakly held. The delay here was surprising since Butler, if nothing else, was a good organizer. It seems that he was beset by a curious scientific experiment to see what happened when a boat full of gunpowder exploded. The plan detailed a powerful Navy squadron bombarding the fort while infantry under Brig. Gen Godfrey Weitzel, who had served under Butler in New Orleans and whom he highly trusted, would land ashore. That done, Ft. Fisher would receive no more blockade runners and the fort could be taken if the Confederates weaked its garrison to go after Sherman.

Grant found no particular fault in the powder ship project; there were plenty of surplus boats that could be sacrificed and plenty of powder that failed to meet munitions standards but was suitable for a floating bomb, and if Butler's scheme worked, it would be very cheap and allow easy capture of the fort. Also the expedition would be handled by Grant's old friend Admiral David Dixon Porter, who was as intrigued by the powder ship idea as Butler. A small steam ship, the Louisiana, was modified; its masts and guns removed, repainted to look like a blockade runner, and its lower decks filled with 215 pounds of powder in wooden barrels and burlap sacks, an intricate network of fuses set up to ignite the whole thing.
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>>18255103
>>18255099
god Butler was retarded
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>>18255097
after Weitzel's troops got ashore, Confederate prisoners told them General Robert Hoke was coming with 6,000 troops so Butler panicked and pulled everyone out
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>>18255091
BTW most photos of Butler are postwar ones when he was older. This is from his tenure as a Congressman during the Hayes Administration and he didn't look like that during the war.
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>Butler testifies before Congress about the Ft. Fisher disaster and whines that it wasn't his fault, he was given impossible orders that could never work
>of course as an astute politician he knew exactly how to work Congress
>sounds of cheering and bells being run could be heard outside
>a member of Congress throws open a window to ask what all the commotion is
>someone replies that Ft. Fisher has fallen
>everyone immediately starts laughing at Butler
>as a last save face he calls for everyone to thank the Almighty for the victory
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>>18255209
Grant was in a sticky situation with BB.

>he outranked almost everyone and was second in command to Grant himself in Virginia
>this meant if Grant ever had to leave the front for some reason, Butler was in command there
>Grant proposed putting him in Missouri or Kentucky but Halleck was like are "you Squidding me? that would probably cause an armed insurrection in those states"
>no way to get rid of him either because he was totally unscrupulous and absolutely loved by Radical Republicans and might run for president
>Grant then thought of confining Butler to administrative duties in his department while the professional soldiers handled the actual fighting but he was too smart to fall for that trick
>in the end he couldn't do anything but just leave Butler where he was
>after the presidential election it was safe to fire Butler but Lincoln decided he needed to make one more mistake so there was a good excuse for it

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Why has South America struggled so hard to succeed compared to North America?

>vast swathes of empty fertile land
>massive resources
>had massive European migration
>minimal border conflicts to distract from economic growth (compared to the old world)

Argentina and Brazil in particular. They seem like they’d be if not superpowers then a major power if led in a better way the last 125 years
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>>18255120
spaniards are idiots
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>>18255266
and brown moor rapebabies with inferior negroid admixture
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Glowies
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>>18255120
Wealth extraction and miscegenation vs long term development
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The Spanish language is cursed and for poor people

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Happy Dies Natalis Solis Invicti! Hail Sol Invictus!
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No academic historians thinks Christmas is connected to the festival of Sol Invictus. This is refuted pseudo-history. Do you need me to post the links?
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>>18254123
>Do you need me to post the links?
Go ahead
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>>18254128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uU8e-pDqYQ
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2018/12/05/the-origins-of-the-christmas-tree/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41KXS-LWsY
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/12/07/the-long-strange-fascinating-history-of-santa-claus/
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/12/08/just-how-pagan-is-christmas-really/
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/12/13/is-krampus-really-pagan/
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2021/12/27/no-santa-claus-is-not-inspired-by-odin/
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2020/12/18/how-was-saturnalia-celebrated-in-ancient-rome/
https://historyforatheists.com/2020/12/pagan-christmas/
https://historyforatheists.com/2016/12/the-great-myths-2-christmas-mithras-and-paganism/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHbOpS-N0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWgzjwy51kU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lsctaPJSvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE

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>>18254123
>>18254128
>>18254134
Jesus was a sun deity in roman egypt, I think Christ and Sol Invictus are well connected. At least in the effort to dissolve the chaotic polytheism in favor of a restore more austere monotheism
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>>18255083
The links refute you.

I hope all my friends at /his/ had a wonderful Christmas! :)
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I did. This was one of the best Christmases I've had since Covid. Now we look forward to the New Year which I cannot wait to celebrate.

One of the most sought-after and literally venerated aspects in ancient Aryan cultures was the love and reverence for cavalry and archers... then we have our grey northern friends, medieval records about Saxons for example, show such a great contrast in relation to the Franks due to the almost total LACK of cavalry and archers. (sigh) Stop calling yourselves Aryans, you prefer to live like Mesolithic guerrillas with spears and axes. And things get worse when the horse was introduced to these areas in extremely late periods, some in the Roman period. Damn

If an Aryan Sintashta could see his cousins and see an ugly Iran_jeet persian and a Germanic, which is much more closely related to him, but culturally alien, or even a matriarchal Saka Hapa, he would be surprised and even saddened to know that the Hapa and North_Saar are much more culturally related to him than his equals.

Germanic being disappointing again.
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>>18254859
Tard, we DEFEATED the so-called "Aryans." Being Germanic is far more honorable than being from some random Persian culture of steppe nomads. Besides, 2/3 of our culture wasn't Aryan. Out of here, outlander
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>>18254859
The Franks learned to ride horses and shoot arrows from the Sarmatians.
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the germans are just stupid and fake. when barbarossa went on a crusade he didn't take a single archer with him and got buttfucked all the way and had to turn back
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>>18254859
...he said in a Germanic language

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>vikings
>normans
>anglos
did these people have a submission kink?
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>>18253863
>In 980, Olav Cuarán, King of Dublin, summoned auxiliaries from Norse-ruled Scottish Isles and from Mann and attacked Meath, but was defeated by Máel Sechnaill at the Battle of Tara. Reginald, Olaf's heir, was killed. Máel Sechnaill followed up his victory with a siege of Dublin which surrendered after three days and nights. When Maél Sechnaill took Dublin in 980, according to the Annals of Tigernach, he freed all the slaves then residing in the city:

>This then that Maelseachnaill proclaimed the famous rising when he said: "Let every one of the Gaels who is in the Foreigner's province come forth to his own country for peace and comfort." That captivity was the Babylonian captivity of Ireland; twas next to the captivity of Hell.

Wherever possible people taken by the Vikings were freed. Irish kings put a stop to the Viking raids. When Dublin was a vassal state of Irish kings it wasn't Irish slaves being sold from there but Anglo Saxon slaves sold into slavery by their own families

>The 1171 Council of Armagh freed all Englishmen and women who were enslaved in Ireland.[15] where contemporary sources detail that the English sold their children as slaves, as stated in the Decree of the Council of Armagh, . "For the English people hitherto throughout the whole of their kingdom to the common injury of their people, had become accustomed to selling their sons and relatives in Ireland, to expose their children for sale as slaves, rather than suffer any need or want."
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>>18254015
I want to feel bad for the fact that my ancestors were enslaved but honestly if they let themselves get captured and sold into slavery then they probably deserved it anyway.
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Not getting conquered by Rome was the worse thing that ever happened to us desu
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>>18254015
Cool, over a century after the founding of Dublin and when the viking age was in its twilight.
>Its main sources of supply were the Irish hinterland, Wales and Scotland.
Didn't even read your own source
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>>18249066
Keep crying

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>One day a private in the Army of Northern Virginia was sitting beside the fire in a camp, and he asks his commanding officer where exactly they were. You see the private was a country boy and had never been more than 5 or 10 miles from his family farm, there were no automobiles back in those days you see, and...
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>>18255154
Should've thought about that before starting the war then.
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>>18255154
I like my own accent, but I wish I sounded like Shelby Foote.

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what do meds base their concept of whiteness on?
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>>18254902
>Diego de la mata
His kid looks white but he doesn't.
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>>18255174
you could say... he got bleached
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He's white because he's a native European, end of story. The fact that like 5% of Europeans belong to edge cases where they could conceivably pass as MENA doesn't matter. White = European is a tautology. Discussion of this sort are so banal and gay, you should feel ashamed for making such a retarded thread.
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you have arab blood and thus are not white
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>>18255188
iberians have like 25% nonwhite admixture on average, not to mention they have nigger admixture which makes them niggers


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