We have /his/torical proof of miracles at the Temple in Jerusalem. The most recent known are reported by apowerful convergence of eight early sources, citing eyewitnesses and even physical evidence, which report clearly miraculous fire and a star like a cross that marked clothes with its energy halting Emperor Julian's plan to rebuild the Jewish Temple in 363 AD.They report that the Temple couldn't be built by the Pagans and Jews because flames burst from its foundations when they tried, and there was a star or other object in the sky like a cross that both marked and astonished the workmen.1 Ammianus Marcellinus. You can read his account here: https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0082%3Abook%3D23%3Achapter%3D1%3Asection%3D3. He was a non-Christian and a contemporary of Julian the Apostate. He wrote:"terrifying balls of flame kept bursting forth near the foundations of the temple, and made the place inaccessible to the workmen, some of whom were burned to death; and since in this way the element persistently repelled them, the enterprise halted"And Gregory Nazianzen, who knew Emperor Julian personally, wrote just months after the event according to https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/gregory_nazianzen_3_oration5.htm:"But what is yet more strange and more conspicuous, there stood in the heavens a light circumscribing a Cross...Let those who were spectators and partakers of that prodigy exhibit their garments, which to the present time are stamped with the brandmarks of the Cross! For at the very moment that anyone, either of our own brethren or of the outsiders, was telling the event or hearing it told by others, he beheld the miracle happening in his own case or to his neighbour, being all spotted with stars, or beholding the other so marked upon his clothes in a manner more variegated than could be done by any artificial work of the loom or elaborate painting”.
>>18106190Same as anything else: testimony with good provenance and good corroboration. Provenance and corroboration are the test of truth for nearly any claim.
>>18106212So let's say you have some European noble writing than he saw streaks of blue flame racing in the sky and that on the same night the commoners all across the town saw a guy throwing blue fire at a pale figure with sharp teeth that could change into a bat. Then you have some historian writing the same thing around the same time.Would that be good enough? If not, what specific changes would there need to be for the thing to convince you? (The question is mostly rhetorical, I know you always refuse to answer pointed questions like that :))
>>18106209>no well-informed person would say such a thing in good faithThat is what you are doing when I am asking about your triune deity and you're responding with triune actually just means God has hypostases. You're changing words to obfuscate the obvious fact that your deity is not logically necessary like you claimed>it's the Father and hypostases, for a TrinityWhat does that even mean? You said there were 2 and then 3>I'm becoming increasingly convincedOh boy here come the diversion tactics>This comes from the very earliest ChristiansEvery denomination claims this even the JW. Every man's orthodoxy is another man's heresy. When we look at your early works we can clearly see they do not use this kind of language and in fact they directly contradict later councils in core beliefs>They are tooI said they are on paper. However unless you want to believe they fight by launching potatoes they are not military (armed forces) And again no set is an element of itself which is exactly what you're asserting>Does this constitute some fundamental change to the essence of his power?No there's a difference between potentiality and actualization. His will operates on what he can do not on what he fundamentally is unless you want to say he has omnipotence in the first place simply because of will>not that he is oneDisagreeing with common words again are we? It doesn't even make sense because that just means only the Father is God since your entire argument is that the one being has hypostases. However you admitted he lacks omnipotence so God by the identity relation also must lack omnipotence >>18089415Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18106175Same with me and fireballs, btw I don't understand how your evidence for fireballs gets off the ground, unless you already have a high credence in fireballs
>>18106048>One is you reject parts of the bible and the second is without the tradition you have inherited from the Catholics you wouldn't believe any of this convoluted nonsense that took many centuries to develop.I can't speak for him, but for myself I can say I reject none of it, and believe this not because of any papist tradition (in which I place no weight) but because the word of God compels me to. My conscience is held captive by the word of God. While the doctrine of the Trinity did develop, it did not develop as purgatory did. It became more specific and precise in response to heresies which denied what had been believed always, everywhere, by everyone. The doctrine of the Trinity can be split (as scripture does) into three distinct doctrines1. There is absolutely only one God2. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God3. These persons have existed as distinct persons since eternity pastIf any one of these is denied, scripture is necessarily denied. Now, I have scanned through some of this conversation, and there's some things I would like to clear up (and encourage my brother to study more theology proper). The persons of the Godhead do not exist by choice but by nature, so the Triune God is absolutely necessary and there is no possible world in which He does not exist. A god which is not triune is not God. Also, the persons of the Trinity are not "parts". As the Westminster Confession says God is without body, parts or passions. Each person contains within Himself the totality of the divine nature, so that they are completely indistinguishable. The only ground upon which they can be distinguished is their eternal relations of origin, that is, how they relate to each other (e.g as Father to Son, and Son to Father). Besides this it is impossible to distinguish them.
Religiously speaking, where will i go if i commit suicide according to different Abrahamic and Pagan religions
>>18105838>Again, if it is not done to appease a diety, it isn't a sacrificei will humor you and play along. Didnt Joseph and Mary carry two young doves to the Jewish temple to offer as a sacrifice. This was in accordance with the Law of Moses for the purification of a firstborn male child and a sacrifice for the poor, as they were not wealthy enough to afford a lamb. Animal sacrifice was done for Yahweh inside that temple. Does that mean Jesus worshipped a demon too?
>>18105851The problem is HUMAN sacrifices
>>18105392You need to be more specific OP. For Abrahamic religions it will depend on why you did it. Pagan religions are too varied to give you an answer.>>18105432>>18105668Purgatory and Hell do not exist. When you die you enter soul sleep, and awake to the Second Coming of Christ to be judged. The righteous into eternal life, and the wicked into death. The wicked are not granted eternal life in a "Hell." John 11:25-26Romans 6:23If you reject Christ, you die. Eternal life is only possible through belief and acceptance of Jesus. You do not possess an eternal or immortal soul, not until you are judged.
>>18105812We should sacrifice more tranny subhumans like you and OP, I think.
>>18106309Purgatory is older than the New Testament.It's in MacabeesIt's not yet called Purgatory, but a place before judgement
Recommendations for books on Roman von Ungern-Sternberg? Possibly a good source for his letters, too?
Unironically Corto Maltese in Siberia
>>18105575The Baron's Cloak by Willard Sunderland. Otherwise you'll have to learn Russian. That James Palmer book is an absolute joke, don't bother with it
>>18105947And I do know Russian?
>>18105648>>18105947Cheers, I'll look them up. Ihave access to someone who might translate, any suggestions in Russian?
Asian Odyssey by Dmitri Alioshin
How EXACTLY did the congo go from a kingdom, to a Portuguese colony, to a belgian colony? When did, i guess england? Germany? decide "lets go beat up portugal because this new country of Belgium needs a colony"? What the hell happened?
The actual kingdom of Congo was in Angola which remained a Portuguese colony. Belgian Congo was a larp name given to the region it was a tribal unexplored area.
>>18106373Kingdom of Kongo was in Angola but also a small part of Congo’s “snout” that touches the coast. However the Kikongo and Kituba language area as well as areas where it’s used as a lingua franca includes southern Republic of Congo, Western “Snout” of the DRC, and Northwest Angola
Bantus moved in with copper spears and ate each other, the strongest ones were the most cannibalistic and loved keeping war captives as cattle. The Portuguese took some of their leaders back to Portugal to humblebrag and forced them into colonial service. Eventually the Portuguese used cannibal mercenaries to crush resistance to their slave monopoly and let them eat the leaders. For less than a decade the Dutch took it over for access to the slaves. The actual Kingdom of the Congo "reinvented itself" in the 19th century by writing a new origin story centered. The far west of the congo was settled by black muslim slave traders and was another area of development other than the coast. Eventually Leopold sent a guy there to build infrastructure but ran into conflict with the arab slave traders. In exchange for keeping the peace the arab slave traders were made eastern governors of the territory. Eventually British traders moved in to profit off of the slaver trader's ivory and tangentially the Rothschilds were involved. Eventually French missionaries in the region came into conflict with the british backed slave trade in the region. These French missionaries were pushed out of the region into Tanzania where they founded German East Africa where they hoped to crush the slave trade. I will say there was a conspiracy between the British and the Arab slave traders in order to acquire ivory and maybe even slaves. I read earlier before that the English were smuggling enough weapons for a full scale war through the congo to the arab slave traers which served as a transfer point into German East Africa. I always suspected they were waging a proxy war against the germans from there but it could have been something even shadier. The propagandization of the genocide (actually disease and famine caused by over-development) and the shaming of Leopold was a cover story for Leopold executing British gun runners disguised as missionaries that were delivering guns to the arabs
>>18106468far east of the congo*
Redpill me on why Europe has more languages than China
>>18104390more genetic diversity
>>18105513>we wuz jooz n shit
>>18104785Were there ever really that many Koreans in Manchuria?
>>18105562Yes, there was several mass migrations throughout history. During the Ming dynasty, Qing dynasty, Japanese annexation of Korea, and Manchukuo. Koreans were the primary farmers there and I believe one of the most pro-CCP minorities in China. A lot of that land also used to be part of ancient Korea but those Koreans were long since assimilated.
>>18105539>we wuz jooz n shitThat copy pasta is posted by jews (Edomites) to ridicule the discussion about the topic.
What are the historical reasons for the genetic destruction of slavs? They're utterly subhuman now. Only westernized slavs have a chance since germans and italians fucked their women and rescued their genetics.Eastern slavs are a legion of spiteful mutants
>>18106383your leader disagrees. He realized white slavs are so subhuman they need chechen handlers to advance in war so hes just going to replace all slavs with gigachad muslims
>>18106372Not an argument. Get a grip faggot.
>>18106365They killed their German elite in 1917 after losing to Germans in the battlefield. Everything since has been a giant cope and LARP
>>18106365Eastern Slavs have several orders of magnitude more scientific, military, and artistic accomplishments.
>>18106369The opening stages of Barbarossa annihilated the sl*vsissies who surrendered en masse. The Red Army that conquered Europe was manned by MVNGVL BVLLS.
Gentiles are grafted into the family tree of Israel. Christians are spiritual Jews, and because it's spiritual everyone can become grafted in.The bible affirms the New and the Old testament. Everyone can be apart of the Kingdom of God.What's the problem with this?
>>18106322Correction, Christians alone are Jews
>>18106327No, because God doesn't break his promises with his covenant.
>>18106415No>>18106322Also No
>>18106415The members of the covenant are and always have been believers, not the nation of Israel (which never had a covenant).
>>18106426>the nation of Israel never had a covenantSo what happened at Mt. Sinai?
retarded hadith thread
>>18104861Jew
>>18104712That's the way I figure it, too, although he was probably also autistic/obsessive-compulsive himself, which would explain his obsession with odd numbers, directions, et cetera.
>>18104904>>18104726>>18104707>>18104506>just being itt is haram and against asslamanother mohomo revert to zuttism>>18104506Reminder that mudslims should not even be on 4chan. In the eyes of Allah, being present in a situation where Islam, Mohammed, or Allah is being mocked is as bad as doing the mocking.Off you fuck zuttsluts.
Bro got his back blown out by half of india lmfao
>>18104506Why did your demon baphomet take 8 pajeet cocks?
>We need to preserve nature and sheeit>Murders elephant
James Lancaster led an attack on Recife, Brazil— at the time the main port of the Captaincy of Pernambuco —, which represented the richest booty in the history of privateering in Elizabethan England.It represented the richest booty in the history of privateering navigation in the Elizabethan period
I am an actual Independent Baptist. The "Enjoy Hell" poster is either a complete heretic or a total larp. Also Steven Anderson is a heretic cult leader. These extremists do not represent us. I actually grew up going to an Independent Baptist church and our pastors are nothing like that. Yes we have our distinctives about the King James Version and we do not consider ourselves Protestant (and yes some people in our churches do believe the trail of blood theory put forward by James Milton Carroll but this isn't synonymous with Baptist successionism and not everyone thinks this exactly). There is quite a bit of variation among us about many things like some pastors teach Lordship salvation while others believe in Free Grace and apparently some even have Calvinistic affinities (though this is a small minority). No we don't think you HAVE to be an Independent Baptist to be saved and there are plenty of other denominations which have saved Christians. Although at least in my church we won't accept baptisms done by non-Independent Baptist churches and if you want to join the church then you either need to be baptized or, if you're coming from another church, there will be a vote. But anyway we affirm all the central tenets of Baptist Christianity like we believe in the Trinity, we believe in the incarnation and that Jesus is fully human and fully God, and we believe in the virgin birth of Jesus, we believe in the substitutionary atonement and the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, we believe in a twofold ministry of bishop (pastor) and deacon, we believe baptism is only for adults by full immersion, we believe in a young earth, we believe salvation is by faith alone totally apart from works, we believe once saved always saved, we believe scripture alone, we believe that Satan is a literal entity in opposition to God, and we affirm the autonomy of the local church, and many other basic Christian and/or basic Baptist beliefs.
>>18105940Apparent age as an idea is compatible with anything, anon.
KJV believers are in for a rude awakening in hell.
>>18105949Tick tock.
>>18105953https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Standard_BibleThis is the most accurate bible in existence. Enjoy hell.
>>18103428>On what ground is he a heretic? Name the doctrine.Off the top of my head-Literally teaches the bible is God-Teaches Christ burned in hell-Teaches sodomites cannot be saved, even if they repent and believe (so abstaining from sodomy is a good work which you must perform to be saved)-Teaches you can be impenitent, and even openly unbelieving, and be saved as long as you paid lip service to Jesus at some point
Holodomor is bourgeois propaganda to slander the USSR. 1932-33 famine was real but caused by kulak sabotage, drought, and rapid industrialization strains, not "genocide." Ukrainian nationalists and Nazis coined the term in the 80s to equate communism with fascism. Stalin sent 60 percent of all USSR grain aid to Ukraine, more per capita than RSFSR. Compare to Irish famine under Brits, which was an actual genocide, with 1M dead while food was exported. Soviets collectivized to end famines forever. By 1937 harvests doubled. Anti-communists ignore 1921-22 Volga famine under Lenin that killed 5M with zero "Holodomor" cries. It's class war: kulaks hoarded grain, burned crops, killed cattle to starve the revolution. We crushed them, fed the cities, built socialism. Anyone calling it genocide is a CIA shill or Bandera simp. Prove me wrong.
Definition of kulak:Use of permanent hired labor.Ownership of a mill, a creamery (мacлoбoйня, 'butter-making rig'), other processing equipment, or a complex machine with a motor.Systematic renting out of agricultural equipment or facilities.Involvement in trade, money-lending, commercial brokerage, or "other sources of non-labor income."If you own a mill or a butter churn you die. God forbid you’re rich enough that you hire help or even have something with a motor in it. Man. Tankies are fucked up.
>>18106065Hitler had serious farmland support and was good to farmers and peasants. So no its not the same.>>18106112They were neither rich nor greedy, they were productive - such was the nature of their success.>>18106228Tankies are a capitalist liberal inspired meme to take out the Tsar. commie activists supported and armed by western powers. White armies received nothing from the west. Even the US expedition was just holding a railroad not taking action for the white army.
in 1914 Russian Empire peasants owned 75% of arable land and were free citizens.In 1934 Bolsheviks took all land from peasants and reinstalled serfdom (they didn't called that serfdom so it didn't get attention but peasants were literally tied to land as feudal serfs again).Soft canceling of this neo serfdom only happened in 1974 when soviets peasant started to get internal passports. That of course accelerated the USSR's collapse as everyone with two brain cells fled the horror that was Soviet agriculture and it collapsed, burying the USSR with it.
>>18105959>Kulaks in the USSR were much like big farmers in the U.S.: leeches who demand high prices for their products while demanding you subsidize the windfall. Stalin was right to crush these pests, fuck these traitorous crybabies.Guy you were replying to here, can you prove this? I’ve never heard this theory. Most rebuttals I hear about Kulaks is just revisionist shit from commies who don’t want to criticize their own side for some reason, but if you have any evidence of this I’m interested
>>18105427Ywnbaw
This is a country when you have>zero unemployment>zero usury>zero trannies>zero crime>zero debt>zero homelessness>zero communists>zero leftism>zero liberalism>and a country that actually cares about its people
>>18103427>litteral niggerbabble
>>18106388>you wouldn't have lost the electionyou mean the election where an extremely pro zoinist canidate won
>>18103971>there were people dressed provocatively?!? At the opening of the PARIS Olympics?!? ARRRRRGGHHHH IM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND!!!!!
>>18103406Which bankers did Hitler send to concentration camps just for being bankers?
>>18104509>Oh, you pressed a button next to the button you meant by mistake? You're <buzzword>
How this guy could make whole academia to piss and shit their pants in fear and rage till today?Anyway. The real question.Are most of the religions are some sort of cargo cult that forget its own origins and just perpetuate without meaning?
>>18106305Literally who
Is pentecostalism the correct denomination? They actually experience the holy spirit like the apostles. Catholics don't have this, neither do orthodox and protestants.
>>18106235Poe's law: the post
>>18106208We should pray for Charles III way more. You are right.
>>18105384Nvm this was a bad post.
>>18105384No they don't. What they have is pagan fanaticism and spiritual derangement. Look into Justin Peters' youtube channel. I question why pentecostals and papists would argue with each other when their position is basically the same.
>>18106096Mistake how? They're the sanest Protestant denomination after Lutherans
