The very phrase “protect people from discrimination” is ridiculous. “Discrimination” is a complete non action. It is somebody standing on their property and deciding to do nothing. They are taking no action with anybody. Phrasing “discrimination” as if it is an active action, an act of aggression, that needs “protecting” from is almost as Orwellian as the usage of the word “rights” in the term “civil rights”. Mixing up the concept of positive/negative rights of “nobody has the right to do X to me” with “nobody has the right to not do X with me”, as if the two are the complete exact same, is a complete abuse of language and is manipulative political propaganda. You have the right to the things that are yours, you do not have the right to things that are others.
>>18248452He'd radicalize
>>18248452He would be anti lgbtq+ but no he won't. He would still be complaining. We literally people from his generation still alive today. They're socially conservative but still anti racism or at least anti black racism.
>>18248452He wanted race to not be part of the equation, he would have hated identity politics and critical race theory. I think he wouldn't mind the current administration as much as the modern lefty.
>>18248456*We literally have How the fuck can you miss that you stupid phone.
>>18248454I am sure can argue plenty about how property rights are not valid. Discrimination laws do not just cover things that have to do with physical property though, they cover contractual labor as well. The cake scenario didnt have to do with property, nor did it really even have to do with anybody’s identity. The couple could have bought any pre made cake from that exact same bakery and put what they wanted on it. It was about forcing people to express a message on a cake that they did not agree with. (first amendment violation).
There is a timeline where Ba'al/Hadad became the main object of Canaanite/Israelite monotheistic worship instead of Yahweh and billions of people worship Ba'al today.
>>18247781>>18246401>It claims Yahweh is the “destroyer of nations” (Jeremiah 4:7)I should also mention that the phrase “destroyer of nations” is translated from the Hebrew phrase mashkhít goyím (משחית גוים) and in some versions of the Bible, this phrase is translated as “destroyer of gentiles.” They are literally calling him the “destroyer of goyim,” this only proves that Yahweh-Typhon is a demon.
>>18246265For this to come to pass would require something to force the Baalists to try and convert gentiles.Given that Christians and even modern Jews don't sacrifice animals any more, I would if modern Baalists would still sacrifice children>pic is Moloch but idgaf
>>18246265You're correct, OP. Luckily Jesus (the salvation of Yahweh) Christ came to restore Eden and worship of the true God called I Am That I Am.
>>18248467Your god Yahweh is not a real god and is unironically no different from the “Satan” boogeyman you invented.>>18247781>>18247785
>>18248499Your correct in your observation that most Christians are ignorant normies, many are easily manipulated. I could just as well observe that most pagans are ultragay sjw larpers. Although I won't make such assumptions about your individual beliefs, I will say that paganism is the religion most appropriate for this world, but that this world is fallen and evil, whether your recognize it or not.The dichotomy in your picture is a false one, and a trap.
I’m reading about the classical era, and it’s hard to find an admirable man who WASN’T screwing boys on the side. Of the first 15 Roman Emperors, 14 were recorded to have had sex with boys, and the man out—Claudius—was mocked as being “ruled by women” for not doing so. In Sparta and Thebes, men at arms would have sex with each other to promote military efficiency (the Theban “Sacred Band”, Spartan Agoges). In fact, this seems like a constant of militaristic societies, with the Ottomans also practicing this trend. Only where it was religiously prohibited was it not practiced. This kind of homosexuality naturally seems institutional, imposed, and not natural, but it’s bizarre to wrap my head around.
>>18244067The Greco-Roman world wasn't that gay. It was around 87% Straight, 7% Bisexual, 4% Gay, and 2% Lesbian
>>18247815>Source: My ass
>>18247950Unironically a good source in this case
>>18248096C’m’ere, sexy ;)
>>18247769I don't think Nietzsche's work was ever really about fully embracing your desires as the ultimate good, it was more a challenge to the underlying reasoning of morals. He doesn't present a convincing alternative moral paradigm, rather he poses a challenge to the systems that invoke these ethical principles. If the message you got from Nietzsche was I am the ubermensch and my will is the only thing of value you might want to read him again, or you just want to use his work to cover for the fact you cannot control yourself. Take the sodomy and homosexuality of the ancient world. It requires no abstraction into ethics to understand why this practice is a pretty shit idea and overall harmful to the society. Yet by abstracting it into ethics you can conveniently ignore these, in some cases physiological, realities. You essentially use his work as a cover for the fact you are incapable of addressing that and prove yourself to be the biggest pseud/sophist of em all.
Why did the Germanics began raiding the celts in the migration era and not before?
They did, Germans bullying Rome's Celtic tribal allies prompted Julius Caesar to build the bridges across the Rhine to safeguard the eastern Gallic border.
>>18248225this is gay porn, isnt it
Back then when Europe was stuck at prehistory because of Germanic barbarian migrations caused 1000 years of obscurantism in the Mediterranean world.The Arabs acted as the opposite pole to Barbarians. Wherever they went, they built cities (while the barbarian destroyed them), they brought sciences (while barbarians murdered Boethius, burned libraries and banned sciences), left the most import artistic sites of the period (while barbarians greatest work was some bones stuff), poetry (which barbarians lacked), tolerance (where barbarians stablished racism), etc.Islamic Golden Age was an era of optimism which hold togheter the Ancient World. From Spain (Tarshish) in the extreme West of the world, to Persia in the extreme East, from Tunis (Carthage) to Iraq (Mesopotamia), from Sicily (Magna Graecia) to Crete, from Morocco (Mauritania) to the the land of Kush in Sudan, way down of the Nile's Delta.Just imagine the differences between both worlds. The sunny Mediterranean land of Andalucia with its free peoples focused on living happy lifes, beyond of its borders, the fronzen glacial grim land of Germania. Their once happy under Grecoroman rule now unhappy neighbors got to live subjected to the brutal Barbarian and Inquisitorial yoke imposed over science, medicine, philosophy, astronomy, etc., by the brutal Germanic cavemen who Jus Primae Nocted their lands after Rome's fall.
So why did the Scientific Revolution happen in Western Europe?
>>18248385It didn't, tho, our modern world derived from Arab scientists. We couldn't even use this computer without Arab maths.
>>18248389We couldn't use the computer without calculus and set theory, of which both originate in Europe. After Arab knowledge was conveyed to Europeans, we surpassed them.
>>18248389"Arab scientist" didn't do anything but keep alive the traditions and knowledge from the Ancient Greeks, passed down to them through the Byzantine Empire.
You guys good?What the fuck happened here?
>>18247138There was a Habsburg-Persian Alliance in the 16th century but it was never as fruitful as the French-Ottoman Alliance.
>>18245789Total Christian Victory
>>18247004>II.Are you a German, Hungarian or Turk?
>>18247012They fought Poland to preoccupy them and keep them out of the war
>>18247665German.
I'm a Zoroastrian, and I think many "pagan" groups end up defining themselves in opposition to Christianity, purely that. This can be limiting and doesn't allow their own beliefs and practices to be presented autonomously, and I don't think a "belief system" that is solely restricted to ethnocentrism can fill the gaps in the search for any kind of transcendence.It's as if Christianity were the 'other' necessary to define their identity. Focusing on one's own beliefs and practices, instead of reacting to Christianity, could be more productive.In my opinion, the irony is that, by doing so, pagan groups may be reinforcing the centrality of Christianity in their own narrative, rather than focusing on their own beliefs and practices. It's as if Christianity were the 'other' necessary to define their own identity.
If that's what you are interested, look at Neoplatonic and theurgic pagans today instead of people like Varg for whom paganism is just an aesthetic to flavour their political beliefs with.
>>18248286>waaah why don't pagans want to have conversations with us!1!1!!1>pagan tries to initiate a conversation with a reasonably measured and intellectual opener>HURR DURR LARP HURR DURR SHILL HURR DURR DURR...DURRRRR!!!You can't be THIS fucking stupid.
>>18248250>they don't worship an arab. no Muslim doesMuslims worship Muhammad. No matter how they deny it. Why does their religious creed otherwise requires Muhammad in it? Why do they want to follow in his steps? Why is it worse for them if someone insults Muhammad than if someone insults Allah? Allah is just a plot device fof Muhammad and the true God of islam is Muhammad.
>>18248230Honestly OP the fact that you're a native Zoroastrian is much more interesting that what larpagans are up to. Plenty of threads about that.How common is Zoroastrianism really in Iraq? I read widely mixed estimates. To what extent does it influence the life of the average modern practitioner? How are the relations with the Muslims?
>>18248284i dont live in MENA and im not a muslim. i am not affected by the existence of zoroastrians.>The issue of "legitimacy" and continuity is more legitimate here (because people, mainly, BELIEVE in it) than Twitter pages or costume events held by young people under 30yes it is, which is what makes zoroastrians clowning on european neopagans laughable. neo zoroastrains don't have an attested, writtten document for their religion since the magi refused to continue their teachings.hinduism is more consistent than zoroastrianism is at this rate.>>18248458you don't know what worship means.>Why does their religious creed otherwise requires Muhammad in it? because he was the perfect muslim so it's important to emphasize that he is an example for all to follow.>Why do they want to follow in his steps?because he was the perfect muslim so he would know best as the prophet>Why is it worse for them if someone insults Muhammad than if someone insults Allah? not a thing>Allah is just a plot device fof Muhammad and the true God of islam is Muhammad.repeating yourself isn't evidence.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
What even was Generalplan Ost? Did the Nazis intend to exterminate the slavs in the east wholesale or did they just intend to create various german colonies inside Russia?
>>18247798Only non retarded post in the thread
>>18247821The Germans were experiencing food shortage because they kept invading an increasing amount of state.They invaded Poland and thus got cut off from the global market food imports.They continued to recieve just about enough imports from the USSR through trade, but then they also invaded them.The fields of Ukraine were scorched as a resultSo yes, it doesnt become problematic when a people who were just minding their own business, becomes a part of a policy of deliberate starvation because an aggressor nation needs to sustain the war.No one would have starved if there was no war, or at least not to that extent.My point however, is that Hunger Plan was nearly on parallel with the Indian famine during the war, as Britain also forcefully re-directed food away from Indians to Britain, tho they were less callous about it than Germany was about Slavs starving. The British viewed it as a regretfulThe Germans viewed it with complete indifference and even tried to spin it to something positive.But in the end, they were largely done on the same basis of circumstances, but have been framed differently post-ww2, and that's why I believe Generalplan Ost is heavily distorted as part of the de-nazificiation process post-ww2.
>>18245076Nazis were a lot less coherent than people think, frankly anti-Semitism and German Jingoism are literally the only two consistent aspects of the whole movement, otherwise everything could be bent and adapted based on the Führer's whims and arbitrary feelings
>>18247754>There was no general plan OstYes, there was.We are Europeans, while you germs are becoming Eurabians.
>>18247821>we are the good guys, ok maybe we starved millions of europeans but it's okay because there was no choice and they were subhumans anyway neonazi mask-off moment
>Liberates Europe from genocidal fascist orcsThe bravery of the boys who fought for the Red Army will never be forgotten
>>18246666It still sucks Satan-kun.
>>18246249THE RED ARMY IS THE STRONGEST!
>>18246249>>18246573It's crazy how Germany breaking this pact was the last nail in the coffin on wehraboo copes about being Russia being the aggressor. Especially on this board where "Russia would've attacked eventually" is just thrown out there as if it isn't presupposed horseshit without a single document to back it up at the very least.
>>18246666fascists weren't really socialist. but anyway, slavs voluntarily chose to abandon the USSR to fight for nazi germany. i think they deserve their fate.
>>18246249As an American, the Red Army will always be heroes in my heart
Is there any actual unbiased evidence that the Nazis committed war crimes? Not fabrications but real legitimate events.
>>18244725I don't care so much about the war crimes and whether or not they happened, which in all likelihood they did. My question is mainly, why, out of the ~70 million people that died in this war, are the 6 million Jews the most important? Do the other 64 million people not count?
>>18247767>why do stormniggers obsess over a fraction of the victimsBecause it's easier to lie about them than it is to cope your way out of claiming that every single non-jewish victim is a communist liar o algo.
Have an SS document.>The Waffen-SS had been extremely effective in fighting the enemy subhumans and had not shied away from cruelty. In Polish ghettos from which weapons were fired, several women and children were rounded up in cellars and then hand grenades were thrown into these cellars. The Waffen-SS was the most radical troop that took no prisoners at all, but utterly destroyed every enemy.
>>18248387I think you misunderstand my post. I meant 70 million total, from all belligerents, also if you include the Holodomor and associated ethnic cleansing/mass murders stretching all the way back through the Russian civil war, the number increases dramatically. Same thing with Germans if you look at how they were treated in the late and post war period. Why out of these countless killings and the milieu of human misery, is the plight of the Jew the only one that matters? Why do they get museums and an exclusive victim status when they were holding the sword just as often as they were having it brought down upon them? Why are Germans considered to be solely responsible when they were not even present for a good chunk of the slaughter?
>>18244834>when it convicts people for committing "crimes" for which were not crimes at the timeThe stuff they're accused of would have been unthinkable if even half of it is true. Granted they got a few commies but it represents a complete rejection of European heritage and civilization.Western civilization invading and destroying murderous savage cultures is an established European principle. No one would have to explain to civilized Victorians who heard of the child ghetto purges what had to be done.It's not their fault Germans forgot.
Did bronze age women really dress like that?
>>18247047Ok. Do they know how tall/short the woman who wore it was though?
>>18248333Her bones dissolved but her body left imprint inside hide linings of the coffin. Hide preserved.Her height was estimated around 1.6m.
>>18246982Probably
>>18247392they probably smelled like rotten fish
>>18247073Those are swords, not dicks, why was that where your mind first went, are you a homosexual?
If Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30) and God is the one described as impregnating the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) then Jesus impregnated his own mother to give birth to himself in act of magical incest. Disgusting.
>>18247970Have fun walking through a park.
>>18248308More likely a Muslim or Jew. How many people even aware of what a modalist was or is?
Abusing children is a Semitic tradition, just like sister fucking, it dates back to Sumerians.Jews suck on newborn penis when they cut it and molest kids, put their pedophilia everywhere in mass media and movies.Catholic priests molest young altar boys.Muslims marry literal kids, rape boys and goats.But there will always be a fucking retard that will defend those degenerates.Also look up:>The Jewess Mary shows the Roman soldiers the half-eaten body of her child
its crazy how christians came up with all this nonsense about essences and 3 persons etc as copes for their bizarre theology and expect normal people to take it seriously. it literally sounds insane to everyone except them
>>18248427>its crazy how christians came up with all this nonsense about essences and 3 persons etc as copes for their bizarre theology and expect normal people to take it seriously. it literally sounds insane to everyone except themIt's in the Torah and Tanakh.The Angel of the Lord, the Holy Spirit and the consuming fire Moses encountered have different traits. And there are only three.
Was Stalin's brutality justified by the fact his system was able to industrialize Russia faster than would have ever been possible under the Tsar or more moderate socialist leadership?
>>18248134He's arguably the only leader in history to succeed in actually developing Russia. Whether that's a good thing is a separate question
>his system was able to industrialize Russia faster than would have ever been possible under the Tsar or more moderate socialist leadership?Holy shit
>>18248134He was wildly successful at industrializing the Soviet Union, but the problem here is that the brutality was foundational in also consolidating the USSR as a system that would not tolerate dissent of any kind, not even from within the party, and it never really healed from that enough to become a more nimble and resilient system (let alone a truly humane one) and that eventually contributed to its collapse. Also when you get into individualized accounts of the atrocities these decisions facilitated, it was just wanton sadism a lot of the time:https://youtu.be/JGYzd191eEEThat's actually a kind of "dialectical" way of looking at it, where the thing that makes you rise is also what makes you fall.
>>18248134> https://ideas.repec.org/p/nbr/nberwo/19425.htmlRead the science. The answer is NO.Industrialization at any cost is the same SHIT as the Tsar's we need serfdom to build Petersburg SHIT. Stalin was the Tsar. The same extractive state, same police terror, same peasant body count for progress. Just with a red aesthetic and five-year plans instead of icons and manifestos.
>>18248134>his system was able to industrialize Russia fasterLet's not kill people for money.
What is the term to describe this level of cognitive dissonance?
>>18248182Jesus being a primarily revelatory being also to me makes much better sense of just Paul's whole "thing," both his very early high Christology showing little or at best ambiguous concern for details of a historical Jesus and his teachings and his apparent success despite actively downplaying his connection to the other apostles for a long time (according to his own letters, not Acts), or the statement in Galations 2:8 that makes it sound like Peter and Paul's apostleship came about in a similar manner.>For he who worked through Peter making him an apostle to the circumcised also worked through me in sending me to the gentiles.
>>18247884>There is NOT A SINGLE ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE of the existence of early Christian groups in the first two centuries. Nothing. Zero.Alexamenos Graffito
>>18248189And it makes sense of Mark's apparent use of Paul's epistles (https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/15934), highly literary character in certain respects, and insertion of what appear to be purely symbolic elements into the narrative.And Paul talks about stuff like Christians being the body of Christ, Christ being revealed in him and others, wanting to identify with Christ in various ways, etc. all of which could give a clever would-be-gospel-writer the idea to create a historical Jesus character and put him into history as an archetypal representative of Christian ideas and Christ's influence through and on various people.Like, if you take for granted that the first gospel was written by someone promoting a specifically Pauline Jesus, that seems like less weird of a thing to do if there wasn't aleady not-quite-Pauline historical Jesus around whose actual history you would be overwriting. And then other authors like Matthew writing their own gospels representing a fairly different Jesus, often blatantly using prior written gospels but altering things to suit their own purposes and making stuff up in the process (Matthew likes throwing in earthquakes), again seems more likely if what was going on was closer to a myth-writing competition.
>>18247884Please come up with something new. The ossuary inscriptions are from like 40ad and name Jesus. Just spamming your memepaste isn't any fun.
>>18247822>thinking historians use The New Testement as a sourceLol. Lmao, even>>18247863This.
Even if you don’t believe he is God, there’s no denying that he’s the greatest man in history
>>18248285>I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.Then take it up with their sages and scribes.
>>18248285Based nationalist Jesus showing the error of Churchian multiculturalists, ethnomasochists, and globalists.
>>18248285Why don't you post the Mark 7:24-29 version instead? That one's actually worse. I wish reddit shitposters would read the fucking thing instead of ruining the board.
>>18248285>Canaanite womanToday we call people of this extraction "Jewish"
>>18248285It's part of a New Testament beginning to bring in gentiles. They're in by merit of Jesus Christ being their Lord.There's similiar symbolism in the story of the rich man and Lazarus, which some scholars have viewed as a critique of how New Testament Jews treated gentiles. The poor foreigner (his name is related to Eleazar of Damascus) longs for covenant blessings, but instead of sharing them he's ignored and grouped with dogs (who are nicer to him.) The story end is subverted with the physical descendant of Abraham not being in heaven but the poor man somehow making it in. Jesus Christ brings the blessings of Israel to the gentiles His people ignored.
