Why did they forget all their pre islamic history apart from one saga written centuries later? It wasn't just a muslim thing. The sassanid empire didn't even seem to know about the Achaemenids.
>>18412180The Judeo-Americans?>>18412170My impression is that Persians should have "genetic average IQs" of about 90. So above the world average of 85
>>18412163If there's any Muslim group that remembers their pre-Islamic identity, it's Persians. And it's not in larpy way like Turks or Egyptians do, Zoroastrian religion still exist, pre-Islamic tradition like Nowruz is still celebrated, evvery Persian remember their pre-Islamic epics better than average anglos remember Arthurian knight stories
>>18412202>larpy way like Turks or Egyptians doLebanese people/North Africans are EASILY the most asinine larpers in the muslim world when it comes to pre-islamic history.Turks don't even come close, Turks pride themselves in the post-Ottoman victories of Attaturk, rather than their ancient Turkic roots. As for Egyptians they're so far removed from ancient egypt time wise and culturally to the point where larping as an ancient egyptian just makes you look retarded, the last real Egyptian dynasty was over before Jesus was born, they're just proud of their history.
>>18412202That's the "centuries later" book I was talking about. And it's one single book. We have multiple extant roman and greek works on persian history. It also pretty (in)famously ignores the achaemid part of persian history.
>>18412208I find it funny when certain Lebanese nationalists claim they aren't Arab and are actually Phoenician. Like bro, you are just Arab Christians, you have nothing in common with the ancient Phoenicians and I’m not even talking about culture or language (which you don't share with them to begin with); not only you don’t practice the Phoenician religion, you slander it as “demon worship.” You have no right to call yourselves the heirs to Phoenicia if you don't worship gods like Baal or Astarte.
Why Otto III and Pope Sylvester invented almost three whole centuries of forged history? They just really wanted to live in the year 1000? That's it?Posting a Twitter screencap so people who dont know about it can understand
>>18412181the fact that we can just radiocarbondate things based on alternative calendar systems and it would still line up with our current BC/AD year kind of disproves this theory
>>18412181No, people like you are just paranoid that history isn't actually a neat linear timeline, and that long periods of stagnation and decline are not unprecedented.
>>18412181Phantom time is so retarded if you think about it for more than 2 seconds, all of early islamic history and Chinese history which was recorded independently would have to have been fabricated too? So it would've been a globe spanning conspiracy just so the Holy Roman emperor has slightly more symbolic legitimacy
Linear time is an invention of the jews/christians based on the jews keeping a timeline of events (fake or otherwise) in relation to events involving their God.
Humanity originated from Albion
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And then you screwed over Albion to turn it into Britannia.Return Albion. Kill Britannia/Ishtar.
In other words, essentialy, christainity is a hellenised judaism with its own hellenistic-universalist teachings based upon Greek writings in judaistic setting embracing also (as an essential, nonetheless lateral thing) Torah and old prophet books etc, called collectively Old Testament.Right or wrong take?
They are both Hellenistic because both are conjured up after religion had already been turned entertainment for the masses and included Venus (a female character) into the pantheon.
>>18411104It's all eastern. "Hellenism" is eastern. Plato learned from Phoenicians. Pythagoras was Phoenician. It really goes more east than Phoenicia though. It's in Zoroastrianism, which takes us to Bactria.There are many features of Christianity. Some of them, like themes of an elite insider revealing inside information and throwing his insider buddies out of their office (bankers thrown out of the temple), go unnoticed and unmentioned.The most important feature is it elevates rational thought above all else, and this somehow has become confused for the opposite. Christianity is essentially slavish devotion to the concept that the mind triumphs over matter. Christianity is proof that ideology is a horseshoe: you push for the truth so hard, and then remain in such utter belief of that partial truth, that you create a mythology out of it but can no longer see the mythology for yourself. This entire horseshoe process is what creates the mind control trap.This is the single, core concept that you can trace from far eastern sources to all Abrahamic religions that deal with this in slightly different ways.Syria/Judea/Arabia only appears to be the central origin of these religions because these were areas in between larger empires. The larger empires could organize ideology in their region, or if they maintained an open society (eg Greece), they could repel any radical movement that would end their openness.In other words, Abrahamic religions are gnostic philosophies practiced in the backwoods and small desert towns. We can say Jesus' movement was a recognition of the gnosticism but seeking an end to the backwards nature of things, but Christianity a couple hundred years after Jesus was the pre-Jesus version of Christianity (backwoods, fundamentalist crap) mixed with state religion (everything the empire does is good, "universalism" justifies our dominance, etc).
>>18412161>The most important feature is it elevates rational thought above all else,To clarify, this is why Zoroastrianism argues Asuras > Devas. These aren't real people or historical groups. It's metaphorical. Asura = thought, Deva = body.This is why the core Christian sin is wrongthink. This is why you can confess to end your sin, and you can be baptised on a whim but actually be cleaned in the eyes of the church. It's all thought.And even more specifically, the "god" concept of the oldest part of the Bible, the Torah, is the rational actor in the self. It is often experienced as a shadow because people are emotional beings that have rational processes going on without their full awareness. The discovery of these processes are supposed to be akin to "finding god".
>>18412165>Asura = thought, Deva = body.Actually, not the best translation.Asura = conscious thought, or components of conscious thoughtDevas = "daemons" in greek terminology, subconscious thought, subprocesses, and this includes and is caused (in part) by the body
>>18411104bloody Hades shows up in Revelation and christcucks huff on copium and claim it's just a word for the underworld when hades himself had only been a god for a few hundred years before that
When did Anglos and Jews become best bros?
>>18411359During World War 2, Zionists (the Lehi) were considering allying with Nazi Germany since they hated the British and considered them a roadblock to liberating Mandatory Palestine.
>>18412149everyone knows about the balfour declaration
>>18412150Yes but do (you) know about the Haavara Agreement?
>>18412150Brits and Jews fought together in Palestine to liberate it from the Ottoman yoke. Jews were in fact the only people in the British Army who were given the right to choose that they only wanted to be deployed in one specific front (in their case, Palestine) and no other.
>>18412150Deah loed Rofschoild...
It's crazy that unironic changs lived here for a thousand years between 500 and 1500 and then based Russia came and and genocided them all now everyone just thinks it was always white Slavs. Holy Based!
Demographics are gonna switch that up again pretty quickly. Central Asians are going to emerge as population giants compared to much of the rest of the world above the Equator soon. There's gonna be 50 million Kazakhs by the end of this century for example
Russia is one of the most evil states in modern history.What's crazy is that there's literal Dajjals that preach a fictional Islam × "Orthodox" alliance when in actuality the Eastern Orthodox are the most consistent and biggest enemy of Muslims in history.
>>18404317Now its niggers amirite?
>>18406515>>18404668Russia genocided or ethnically-cleansed majority of the Turkic, Mongolic and Lazic peoples there, and almost all of the Circassian-Kabardian peoples.
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This shit reads like if you were to ask an AI to generate a piece of Biblical text. I can't explain it, it vaguely reads like one, but there's really nothing to get from it. It has zero quotable or memorable verses like the OT/NT have.
>>18411574What even is the story? Isn't there a wooden submarine at some point?
I like Mark Twain's "review" of it in his 1872 book "Roughing It">All men have heard of the Mormon Bible, but few except the “elect” have seen it, or, at least, taken the trouble to read it. I brought away a copy from Salt Lake. The book is a curiosity to me, it is such a pretentious affair, and yet so “slow,” so sleepy; such an insipid mess of inspiration. It is chloroform in print. If Joseph Smith composed this book, the act was a miracle—keeping awake while he did it was, at any rate. If he, accourding to tradition, merely translated it from certain ancient and mysteriously-engraved plates of copper, which he declares he found under a stone, in an out-of-the-way locality, the work of translating was equally a miracle, for the same reason.>The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James’s translation of the Scriptures; and the result is a mongrel—half modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modern—which was about every sentence or two—he ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as “exceeding sore,” “and it came to pass,” etc., and made things satisfactory again. “And it came to pass” was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet.there's more toohttps://mrm.org/twain-bom
>>18411727>https://mrm.org/twain-bomand so I have learned that in the days of Mark Twain it wasn't public knowledge yet that polygamy was instituted by Joseph Smith himself. Twain blames it on Brigham Young.
>>18411574>Muhammad telling you that you're gonna burn with the losers every other page,I notice Muslims don't really quote the quran all too often either, I never read it myself but I can imagine it's basically just the Arab version of the BoM. You can't capture lightning in a bottle twice
>>18412096the quran is much worse than the BoM. the BoM is about at the level of the bible. the quran is a schizo rant by allah himself:>This is˺ a Book sent down to you ˹O Prophet˺—do not let anxiety into your heart regarding it—so with it you may warn ˹the disbelievers˺, and as a reminder to the believers.>Follow what has been sent down to you from your Lord, and do not take others as guardians besides Him. How seldom are you mindful!>˹Imagine˺ how many societies We have destroyed! Our torment took them by surprise ˹while sleeping˺ at night or midday.>Their only cry—when overwhelmed by Our torment—was, “We have indeed been wrongdoers.”>We will surely question those who received messengers and We will question the messengers ˹themselves˺.those are consecutive verses btw (the beginning of surah al-A'raf, which I randomly chose). the parts between square quotes (e.g. the 'themselves' at the end of the last verse) are missing from the text and are added to lend some semblance of coherence to it. also, about 1/5 of the sentences are grammatically incorrect, which is not visible in a translation.
The god didn't want humanity to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil because then we would find out that he is evil.
>>18410007See >>18410041
>>18410035Cool story bro. Good luck rebelling against God.
>>18410007Your reading gets the story precisely backwards.The fruit of the tree of the “Knowledge of good and evil” is not an intellectual upgrade.The "Good and evil" (Hebrew tov and ra) being described belong to the realm of apparent truths, conventional opinions and moral judgments driven by imagination, desire, and social custom. In other words, "subjective" vs "objective" truth/knowledge.The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is not the same as "true/false", which are necessary, objective intellectual facts. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of tov and ra is about subjective truth.This is why it comes from the snake (and oscillating being). It flip flops and goes back and forth across the earth.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>18409977>I'm EXTREMELY retardedNoted! Enjoy burning.
>>18411530headcanon to the rescue of a primitive story.
Give me 1 reason why we all shouldnt live by this philosophy
>>18412073Serious answer: because it would present a false dilemma fallacy, there are more options than just your shit instincts and the opposite of your shit instincts. It's also a black and white fallacy
They only teach you bad things about Soviet Russia such as gulags and Holodomor.The truth is the Russians were heroes who helped liberate most of the world from Western Anglo-Saxon oppression
>>18409188>Communism was about gay sex between Russian and Indian menmakes sense nowalso imagine the smell
>>18409188>work till you dieGreat system, idiot.
>>18409188>Europeans are slowly and (mostly) peacefully decolonizing Africa>Let's give Kalashnikovs to every warlord who claims to be communist>I'm sure this will bring peace and progress to AfricaThank you comrade Ivan Yevreyich, you are a genious
>>18410110I would but they don't accept foreigners who aren't diplomats or humanitarian aid workers because CIA/ Mossad operatives would try to overthrow them if they did.
>>18409192Russia is amplifying pretty much every political agenda under the sun from far-left to far-right so technically you're right, I just don't see what relevance it has.
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Move over pipsqueak, there's a far better Dutch national associated with conspiracy theories.
Speek for yourself coward, step in my face and fight like men you shitty rozenkruiziger, ik ken jou soort laf je kan geen kleur zien die je nooit gezien heb dat is morfologische fysica dus ik snap niet goed wat jij bedoelt met conspiracy, volgens mij is dat een engelse term en spreken wij nederlands, dus indruk maken in je driedelig pak geef ik weinig om, je heb nog een hoop te leren, je probeert mijn intellengtie te beledigen daarmee beledig je je zelf, oordeel het boek niet van zijn kaft. Jij schiet mij te kort in zijn intelegentie, bekijk deze foto even van je shell patent.
A thread for lovers of the history of Czechoslovakia. I am the author of the Pandora's Box project (www.pandorinaskrinka.sk), where I research the modern history of Czechoslovakia. On this platform I want to look for topics that interest you or that you do not understand.So to begin with: Is there anyone here who is interested in Czechoslovakia?
>>18410833Yes, you're right. I didn't realize that. You can register if you want. Membership is free and I don't plan on paying for membership. I use this feature of the Ghost platform exclusively to build a community of people who enjoy history. If an article is very controversial, I prefer to make it conditional on registration so that bots and people who don't care about history don't go there.
>>18410860I think that the propaganda of every warring state during the First World War used the story of how the enemy army ate children on its territory. I can't tell you anything about that. In the memoirs of several Czechoslovak legionnaires and General Janin that I read, I didn't find any mention of them having Russian children for dinner.I think that the Czechs prefer "knedlo, vepró, zelo" and the French are even more demanding in the field of gastronomy. :)))
>>18411258This is quite a controversial book, at least in the countries of the former Czechoslovakia:Mary Heimann – “Czechoslovakia: The State That Failed”I haven’t had the chance to read it yet, but I’m planning to. I love it when foreign historians write about us because they have a distance and don’t have an emotional attachment to our past.
>>18411258The level of controversy is determined by the ratings and comments in the largest Slovak bookstore. :)https://www.martinus.sk/348803-czechoslovakia-the-state-that-failed/kniha
>>18410970Thank you for the clarification. I don't have a "big picture" yet about the overall operation of the Czechoslovak legions, because I always start by reading memoirs, which I enjoy more. As for General Janin, I'll allow myself to have a little doubt here. In his memoirs, Janin explicitly doubts whether supporting the White Army is the right thing to do. He fears that because of the terror these units inflicted on civilians, everyone will be hanged after the war, including himself. He hates Kolchak from the bottom of his heart and is unable to negotiate with him. He often shifts these duties to his deputy, Gen. Štefánik. The Czechoslovak legionnaires - ordinary soldiers, did not have right-wing thinking. Their mentality was more social-democratic. Many even supported the revolution. And in the end, they willingly exchanged Kolchak for their way home. :)
Why is it that Coptic Orthodox churches have a similar structure to Eastern Orthodox churches as opposed to Syriac Orthodox churches which appear more similar to Nestorian churches? The Copts and Syriacs are both in communion with one another (hence the Oriental Orthodox Church), but there appear to be differing levels of iconodulia among them with the Copts having more of it sorta similar to the Greeks. tldr; Exactly why do Coptic churches appear close to Greek churches?
>>18410785I don't think the Copts were at FlorenceNot all the material in the Septuagint is considered canon even in the churches that use it like the Psalms of Solomon and the OdesIt's like how the Prayer of Manasseh and 3 and 4 Esdras were retained in an appendix to the Clementine Vulgate after Trent ruled them apocryphal
>>18408092But does it bless the Eucharist in any other way.
>>18411623Well, that Wikipedia article says the Coptic Orthodox use the Prayer of Manasseh in their liturgy. Someone showed me the Bible section of a Coptic Orthodox app on his phone and it included the Prayer of Manasseh with no distinction from the other books. Maybe the Wikipedia article is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon
>>18408092This is a tame concession compared to what the first generations of Jesuits were willing to bend the Latin Rite do adapt it to the local religions
>>18407870>Coptic OrthodoxYou are thinkin of the Church(es) of the East.There are two left now. The other one joining the catholics a while back.
What age were you when you grew up and realised that WW2 was the only thing worth reading about?
The Cold War was far more kino in my opinion>The Space Race>Super Cool Spy Movie Aesthetics >Massive espionage and intelligence arms races between 2 competing superpowers>Constant threat of nuclear war looming over everyone's heads>The entire planet literally divided into 3 different worlds across rigidly defined barriers >took place over the course of many decades
>>18411789I didn't. Its actually the least interesting historical event of all time.
>>18411789>>18411824These, but the interwar period
>Advance elements of the 4th US Division reported that the 141th SS Kumpferstaurbattalion had entrenched on the ridge overlooking the entrance to the French town of Vaux-de-Champes. As the mortar detachments of the division had been requisitioned by Eisenhower for an assault on the strategic pass of Nes-du-Pasé a few days earlier, Captain James "Jimmy" Windhorn chose to send the 2nd and 5th battalions at 0600 hours...
FIFTY-SEVEN PERCENT OF THE TOTAL AMMUNITION SHIPMENTS AND 34 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL FUEL SHIPMENTS HAD BEEN DELIVERED TO OSTROV, AND 1,640 WAGONS OF AMMUNITION (23 PERCENT) HAD BEEN DELIVERED TO SEDLETS. HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF FUEL HAD BEEN DELIVERED TO BIALA-PODLIASKA (220 WAGONS, OR 22 PERCENT)
Why does nobody talk about this region very often here? Any important history there?Also, why is the west side green/forested while the east side is mostly desert?
>>18409740>Also, why is the west side green/forested while the east side is mostly desert?mongols and soviets destroyed anything green
>>18411079That’s nonsense. The Mongol invasions didn’t rewrite climate.It's most-likley the Rain Shadow Effect from the Caucasus Mountains, where west gets rain, east stays dry. Basic geography.
>>18411079>>18411314Mongols aren't why it's desert, but the Soviets did drain the Aral Sea and completely ruined the region's ecosystem.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
>>18410889Rioni is on the very border of the image to the left so it counts. Phasis is also by far the most notable ancient civilization of the area by a mile.
>>18409740>Also, why is the west side green/forested while the east side is mostly desertWest side have mountains and is close enough to the black sea to receive some wet winds. East side have nothing of these and is very close to the center of Asia, bound to be dry like all landmasses in the middle of supercontinents
