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Why did most Germans reject Hitler in 1932?
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>>16893811
At that time not much was known about what had gone on behind the scene during the war, obviously many were even oblivious to what had happened on the scene given the popularity of the stab in the back myth.
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If there are more than two parties involved in an election, 33% is no peanuts.

The current ruling party in Britain got 33% of the popular vote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_general_election
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>>16892233
this
>>16893811
I don't think he was either very popular or hated
Hindenburg wasn't responsible for the war btw, he was retired when the war broke out and called back to service
he probably was responsible for prolonging/not trying to end the war though
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>>16894193
Watching interwar German films, It seems like his son Crown prince Wilhelm III was still very muched loved in Germany and was received positively by the crowds when he arrived home for a visit.
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>>16892191
They knew not what they were doing. But then they realized he was the Saviour and became redeemed.

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Can someone with a deeper knowledge of British and Russian history enlighten me?

Why did homosexuality turn the British into a highly effective fighting force, yet is not doing the same for
Russia?

Many key British figures in both world wars were homosexuals such as TE Lawrence and Alan Turing. Winston Churchill himself declared that the traditions of the Royal Navy, the force responsible for Britain's global power projection, and the force responsible for maintaining the empire for centuries, were "rum, sodomy, and the lash."(drunken homosexual BDSM)

Yet for some reason dedovshchina does did not appear to be have the same impact in Imperial Russia, the Soviet Union, or modern Russia.
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>>16894241
Dedovschina doesn't predate the Soviet Union, The Soviets steamrolled the Nazis and the Russians are now steamrolling the hohols
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>>16894241
The “rum, sodomy, and the lash” statement from Churchill was, like a lot of what he said, nonsense and false.
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>>16894241
Meanwhile, in the Articles of War...
>28. If any person in the fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable sin of buggery and sodomy with man or beast, he shall be punished with death by the sentence of a court martial.
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>>16894288

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Yasuke was not a "Samurai" or a "Black man" but was first and foremost a man of God. he came to Japan to spread the word of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and should ever be venerated for his saintly mission. He would be horrified to see what has become of his legacy, twisted by racial idolaters on either side.

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Now, I'm not going to say that 'Hitler was right' or some nonsence like that. Infact, I'd argue that Hitler's defeat was actually good for mainland Europe, and that the Nazi regime was utterly monstrous and Britain had a good reason to fight Hitler. HOWEVER, I do firmly believe that if Britain did not fight Hitler in 1939, OR even made peace with Hitler in 1940, modern day Britain would be significantly more powerful and better off than if they did fight Hitler.

Now, to counter some arguments

>If Britain didn't stop Hitler, Hitler would have built a huge navy and possibly attacked Britain
I believe this argument is a load of rubbish. Hitler was a sneak, that is true, but his interests were firmly East, and by going East, he would simply wouldn't have had the time nor the power to commit to a fight with Britain for the forseeable decades. A war against the Soviet Union was inevitable. That was his plan. Hitler had virtually nothing to gain in an extremely random and costly invasion of Britain, and everything to lose. TLDR: The evidence of Hitler wanting to conquer Britain at any point other than when they were at war is virtually nonexistent and purely propaganda.

>What would have happened
Germany would have gone to war with the Soviet Union if it was given free reign. Possibly in 1940. Who is to say it would even prevail? If Germany loses, then the exact same situation in 1945 occurs, this time without a SINGLE British loss. Britain would essentially get a free victory without suffering the catastrophic economic damage that the war with germany did.

>What if Germany beats the Soviet Union
Then Germany rules over an extremely ethnically divided mass of Eastern Europe. They would probably continue their invasions and remain an extremely fractured and broken society. This is why my argument is that Europe would indeed be better off with Hitler being defeated, but not Britain.
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>>16893870
It's a dumb point given Germany was waging a bombing and U-boat campaign to force Britain into submission even while it had millions of men fighting the USSR in the east.
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>>16893962
By all accounts, the danger of British submission had passed when germany was embroiled in the East, and besides, like I said, Germany had no interest in assaulting Britain as it would be a complete waste of time and resources when they are already trying to pacify tens of millions of people.
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>>16893870
>with hindsight, we know that Hitler had no interest in conquering the UK
We actually dont know what Hitlers intentions would have been if his plans were fullfilled. because he never got that far.

Hitlers original ambitions was not even to conquer Poland, Just make it subservient to Germany. He went from potiential ally to mortal enemy in the span of less than a year because the Poles simply told him no one time.
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>>16893430
Dude, I hate to tell you this, but The Empire was dying long before the war started. The problem was that Britain treated the conquered people too well; if we had ruled The Empire the same way that the Romans, the Assyrians, The Spanish (or any of the other great, failed, ancient empires) did then it might still - potentially - be 'not quite dead yet' today. But, by 1939, in the world we actually live in - Britain had a choice between being a second rate power in a German dominated world, or a second rate power in an American dominated world. Granted, being a second rate power in an American world kinda sucks; but being a second rate power in a German world would be horrific shit you wouldn't wish on a Frenchman in comparison.
>tl;dr - it sucks, and civilisation has been dying for a while now, but it was the less shitty option.
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>>16893430
There were no good options after ww1 really. The outcome of WW2 was bad, but it was the least bad one.

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How many people belive they are actually their actually their persona

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>>16891281
Why the fuck would they wreck the ship filled with the slaves they'd sell on the black/grey market? Christ the welfare and shitposting rotted your brain
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>>16891749
Because it’s a pirate fight retard, are you implying the slave owners would shoot their own ship? In fact I don’t even know what your argument was.
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>>16891276
if you spend any prolonged time on a ship you'll realise how bad it actually is
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>>16891281
>>16891749
>implying the slave ships wouldn't be surrounded by a protective band of ironclads
We're talking about Spanish treasure armada sailing from the Carribean-tier levels of warfare here people get with the fucking picture

>>16892397
>pirates and privateers would willingly spend months at a time sailing all the way to the Indian Ocean
>hurrrr boat life suck durrrr
Are you retarded? Why are you on a history board if you don't know the first goddamn thing about it?
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Bumpu

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What are YOU doing to take back the mainline churches?
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>>16894162
He converted to Christianity. He's no longer a Jew.
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>>16894172
He still worships Molech like the rest of his kin
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>>16893530
OPs talking about taking over mainline churches not the vatican
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>>16893371
I'm reminding them they worship a jew raised by a cuck
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>>16894188
Racial anti-semitism is un-Christian. If a Jew converts to Christianity then he ceases being a Jew, it's as simple as that. Everybody before the 19th/20th centuries would have agreed with this. Same for Jews who convert to any other religion eg. Islam.

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He was killed illegally and you expect me to believe republican forms of government are superior when they don't even respect the rights of individuals, most importantly a king, either?
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>>16893448
>bug men with no conception of right and wrong beyond legal/illegal
that's the partisans for republics
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>>16893940
Don’t listen to him. Henry VII did have a blood right to the throne by being Edward III’s 3xgreat grandson. Even if it wasn’t the strongest, he was a blood descendant of a king.
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>>16892484
Yes BUT the title of "Lord Protector" is badass. I love republican dictatorships
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>>16894020
Based aesthetics prioritizer
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>>16893993
His great grandfather was a bastard though, a legitimized bastard, but still a bastard. He was only really a legitimate king through his marriage with Elizabeth of York.

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>Defeated Monarchism
>Defeated Fascism
>Defeated Communism
>Subdued Islamism
>Subdued Christianity


How did this single ideology become so powerful and accepted that it won over most of the compilation in its way?
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>>16894084
All of these are more of the result of industrialization and policies around industrialization than liberalism in itself
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>>16894058
You forgot
>Defeated itself
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>>16894079
People in America make fun of Christianity because they're familiar with it and had back experiences with Christians. I know way more about the Bible than the Quran or Talmud because I was raised Baptist
If any other religion was anywhere close to as influential as it, it'd be made fun as well.
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>>16894144
The only drawback of brainwashing instead of indoctrination.
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>>16894145
"Familiarity breeds contempt"

It is commonly stated that civilians in the Baltics and in the Ukraine initially saw the Wehrmacht as liberators, but what was the grassroots reaction to their arrival in Belarus and Russia proper?
Were they distrustful from the get go?
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>>16893790
The reaction was positive until Jewish partisans started to terrorize and murder Russian collaborators
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>>16893807
>the partizans were actually the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ
let me guess, the 1 something million yugoslav partizans were secretly also jews and had menorahs in their vukojebina villages
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I read somewhere that in Belarus specifically, people were unwilling to let go of collective farms and resume individual farming, despite pressure from the Reichskommissar.

Wikipedia vaguely mentions this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskommissariat_Ostland#Policies

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Hispanics have straight sleek hair like whites but are not related to whites yet Arabs/Iranian/Egyptian etc many of them have nappy hair. Look at Mo Salah and Masih Alinejad but they are seen as part of the white/caucasian race. Why do Hispanics have hair like Europeans but MENA have hair like mulattos?
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"hisanic" is a vague ethnic label that covers people who are native american, european or african plus every possible combination of those three groups
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>>16888848
>It is not the norm for white people to have pin straight perfectly sleek hair
???
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>>16892159
That's not perfectly sleek hair
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>>16889416
>black genes are widely accepted to be the most dominant
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>>16892788
>That's not perfectly sleek hair
Because they don't maintain it. That's in Italy btw

What’s the difference between Celtic and Germanic people?
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>>16893992
Nah, Germanics and Celts were pretty different. Celts were basically on a cline from Spain to Britain, mostly French like. Germanics looked like Scandinavians.
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>>16894003
For what?
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>>16893972
> Celtic
french
> Germanic
norwegian/swedish
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>>16893975
Anon, "the difference" can also mean a list of differences, just like "the people" means "a lot of people"
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>>16893972
Good thread question. Identity is complicated and in Europe it has historically never been tied to genetics.
>Celtic peoples
Probably could be identified by a Celtic language, culture, and worship of Celtic gods such as Lugos, Cernunnos, and Epona. Spread by the La Tene and Halstatt cultures which is probably what that chart is identifying as "Celtic Admixture". In reality those cultures were a warrior elite who conquered a genetically diverse swathe of Europeans who adopted these traits and therefore "became celts".
>Germanics
People who practiced Germanic customs spoke the Germanic language and originally worshipped gods such as Odin and Thor. These traits were spread by the descendants of the Jastorf and Nordic iron age cultures whom the Romans notably distinguished from each other as they didn't consider the Goths and Vandals from Scandinavia as "Germani". The chart is probably referring to the Jastorf culture area as "Germanic admixture" though as I said before genetics was never an important part of identity in European history the way language and allegiance was.
If your point is the chart is silly you are correct.

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How did the Whites expect to win the Russian Civil War if they had no support except for officers, priests, bourgies, and kulaks?
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>>16893712
The Reds had no support except Jews and urban proles
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>>16893712
Entente intervention. Once that petered out they were backed into a corner and only fought to stay alive.
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>>16893755
Workers, peasants, soldiers!
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>>16893855
Peasants voted SR and hated both sides, but were forcefully recruited by both.
They were the people who would just switch sides upon capture while their "comrades" would be summarily executed.
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>>16893855
Workers were city focused and commie
Peasants would go along with whoever had an army in their village
Soldiers were split along ideological lines
Can look at Bulgakov's White Guard to see how volatile the situation could be

What would have changed if the SA couped Hitler?
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>>16893949
Why is /his/ snubbing me? I thought Hitler threads were supposed to get a lot of (you)s
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>>16893949
Peak homofascism
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>>16893949
>What would have changed if the SA couped Hitler?
The SA were in a very tough spot given that Uncle was still their boss.
Preventively couping your boss makes you look very untrustworthy, a Stalin in the making.
The general population would have probably not approved, and in 1934 the international community didn't know much about Hitler yet, he wasn't a pariah before 1939 (late 1938 at the very earliest)

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Post 'em faggots
also ama
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>>16890189
Have you considered reading something else than pop history?
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>>16892750
>no example of a non "pop-history" work
Have you considered cutting down on how much cock you suck?
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>>16892722
Books are only slightly less spoon-feeding than youtube videos
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>>16893671
How so?
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>>16893994
Idk lmao, i just said it to say it


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