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>the ancient punics were actually a mixed ethnicity of greeks, italians and berbers and had little actual levantine ancestry
So Hannibal was likely some italian/greek/nafri mutt fighting other Italians while speaking a Semitic language
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>>18352213
>italo-greek-north african mutts
>white
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>>18352332
>racially pure Italics
>mutts
???
They were overwhelmingly of European descent. They wouldn’t have been successful if they had MENAlatto admixture.
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>>18352373
>racially pure italics
They had Italian, Greek, Iberian and North African ancestries. Even the samples collected in Tunisia were all over the place.
>wouldn’t have been successful if they had MENAlatto admixture
Seeing how Carthage was originally founded by Levantines, that interpetation doesn't make sense.
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no figures, graphs, link to study?
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>>18352789
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08913-3

Most of the samples collected so far were European but its clear that the Punics existed on a cline so they ranged from southern European looking people to North African looking people. If we super imposed this on modern populations, they would stretch across modern day Sicilians, Greek Islanders, Cypriots, Algerians and Tunisians.

What likely happened is that only a small group of Phoenicians migrated to North Africa who then proceeded to spread their language via trade and culturally assimilated everyone in their colonies. No mass settlers anywhere, just merchant elites integrating people while also increasingly diluting their own ancestries by intermarrying with locals.

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I have noticed that groups like Jews, Palestinians and Black Americans have this sense of entitlement. Haven't interacted much with either Jews or black Americans. When it comes to Palestinians they excepts you sympathies and support them 100%. They throw a tantrum if you don't and think your evil or something.
Never meet any non-Palestinian Arab that likes them. They share the same sentiment that Palestinians are super entitled. Jordan and Lebanon took them in and supported them. But apparently that wasn't enough for them. They carved out their own state within these countries. Refuse to follow the laws of the lands they lived in and instead tried to force their host-country to live by their rules. They even tried to take control of these countries by starting civil wars. Forced fellow Arabs and Muslims to "donate" to their cause at gun point.
All because woe is them, they were forced out of their homes during the Nakba. Do they think just because they were victims of the Jews, it means they are entitled "fight back" by any means, including at others expense?
While also thinking everyone owes it to help them because they are victims. Do people become like this if you constantly tell them how they are victims and nothing was ever their fault? While I don't think the Nakba was nice, it doesn't mean the world owes them something.

Do Jews and black Americans also think it's okay for them to leech and commit crimes because boohoo slavery and holocaust?
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>>18351115
>Are you really that adamant on making other people suffer
What the fuck are you talking about? Why are blacks allowed to not have to pay for stuff but I as a normal citizen have to?
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>>18351343
Why are blacks allowed to not have to pay for stuff
that's compensation of all the unpaid labor of their ancestors
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>>18350702
>speaking out against Israel is a jailable offence
Source:made it up
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>>18351812
If you get to claim compensation for your ancestors it is only logical you pay for your ancestors crimes as well. So blacks should actually go back to being slaves for what the Bantu have done
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>>18352459
but the blacks who were sold to the US weren't the ones doing the slavery thing?

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Is there a reason why I feel so attracted to the early 1900s?
And I'm not talking about le ebin nadsees of the 1930s, but rather the years between 1902 and 1919.
Everything from the music, the photos, the way people were dressed, the out of control industrial progress, soothes me and gives me a sense of belonging.
What the fuck? Am I fucking retarded or what?
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>>18349278
Opera tenors were some of the few voices that registered well on the older style of recording. Enrico Caruso around the turn of the century sounds awesome.
There was a golden age of American folk music from the start of electric recording in the mid 20s to the collapse of record sales in the Great Depression. The economy was strong and working people could afford Victrolas and records, and companies scoured the south for bluesmen and hillbillies to record. Once record sales crashed, most of them went back to being coal miners or sharecroppers, with a lucky few surviving to enjoy a second career in the 50s-60s folk revival.
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>the north pre Great Migration was awesome!
It truly was
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>>18347466
Modern architecture is European though, Le Corbusier and Bauhaus etc. were all Europeans or European movements.
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>>18347625
Getting appendicitis really made me appreciate our modern world, can't imagine having to deal with that shit in some dodgy Australian outback cattle station (where Ive actually worked) in the 1890s-1920s
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>>18349206
Yeah everyone talks about Prohibition as this "hysterical Puritans oppressing people and telling us how to live!" thing but it was actually a united front of Trade Unionists, Women, the Church, etc. all wanting to just put a leash on alcoholism which was wrecking havoc in society. Sweden, Finland, Iceland and Norway all had their own Prohibition movements as well during this time.

Why was there a massive gaslighting campaign against LSD during the height of the hippie era? Was it really such a threat for society that it justified crackdowns?
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>>18351407
Most of the retards ITT and elsewhere will never get their hands on real LSD. Most normies who take "LSD" are really just sucking on tabs soaked in experimental chemicals. So yeah.
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>>18351334
>There was an ATF agent who got something like 1 million hits of LSD and it permanently rewired his mind. To be clear, I don’t mean a change to his mind, when he finally recovered, he could no longer conceptualize the idea of driving a vehicle or left from right. Permanently. To the point, the campaign comes from the very real danger of LSD.
I don't believe this for a second but even if I did it is speaks volumes in favor of the safety of LSD. A million times the intended dose of pretty much anything will kill you. You'd be dead before you even finished your fiftieth glass of water.
>>18351361
>I think that's the real danger of LSD nobody ever talks about. It's basically a chemical weapon that makes even fentanyl blush when it comes to providing a debilitating dose at a given mass.
It's a psychedelic. Comparing it to fentanyl is fucking retarded. If I presented you with 10 recreational doses of acid versus 10 recreational doses of fentanyl and asked you to choose then you wouldn't even have to think about it because you know that latter would kill you.
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Yes.

I heard a comedian say "if you're poor and don't smoke weed, what the fuck are you doing with your life", I can't imagine a more sovlless demonic attitude, everything is shit, your life is shit, but you don't do anything to change that, you don't create anything or have any ambitions, you don't even clear out the trash in front of your home and put up some pot plants, you just gag on nigger cocks until you have enough money for weed.
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>>18344341
Drugs are bad, mmkay? Unironically.
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>>18351557
Cope.

>>18352158
Non-lethal weapons are still weapons. In fact, there is no such thing as a non-lethal weapon, only less-than-lethal.

>>18352172
You can't change the past, but you can still change your outlook on it for the better with drugs. What kind of twisted "morality" is the denial of this?

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Explain why individualism is bad and why collectivism should be favoured instead
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>>18352584
i hope your grandparents will hang first when we finally implement a final solution to w*ite question
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>>18352505
That anon is part of a dedicated clique shilling Bolshevism while seething about Anglos and Germans, there's no reason in arguing with creatures like him.
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>>18352552
>Nazis ransomed the Rothschild
Did they imprison the rothschilds?
The nazis also received financial support from the soviets and wall street

>It worked for our entire history
By that logic we shouldn't abandon zionism because it "works" and has been a part of our culture for decades

>they never voted for it.
But they hated it so fucking much that the majority of americans did fucking nothing to vote away feminist policies
I guess that shows what mindless sheep Americans are

>that’s why you’re out of touch.
Yes, forgive me if I'm more worried about actual people with important influence like Elon Musk or Marco Rubio instead of worrying about some faggot tiktok users like an autistic child


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>>18352573
>We do not need to live under authoritarianism to avoid the dangers of political individualism.
Collectivism is inherently authoritarian
No one chooses collectivism

>Furthermore authoritarian structures are often what places the MOST value on human life.
Give me an example on a trait of human life which value increases via authoritarianism

>>China
China is a perfect example of the policies you're advocating for
And life in china fucking sucks

>>18352573
>forcing men to commit to relationships
Why should that be a matter of the state?

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>>18352584
>My grandparents enjoyed growing up.
I doubt it's genuine passion for the horrible policies at the time and more of a general nostalgia
I really doubt that they want the social pressure of the 50s-60s to be brought back they probably just don't want to live next door to a hispanic

>forced changes no one wanted upon us against our will
Again
Majority of americans either accepted the changes because it benefited them or they did fucking nothing to do anything to remove the policies
We have the second amendment, they could've led a revolution if they hated it so much but chose not to

>1890s America?
We're talking about mid 20th century, sweetie

>Who gives a fuck about blacks?
Pissing off 13% of the population and treating them like dogs would not end well no matter what

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There is no God.
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>>18351169
Curse Vishnu.
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Gnostic exists
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>>18351164
Yeah, even most "Christians" agree with this. Not a hot take, the real question is how do we continue to move society into secularity?
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>>18351167
Ad hominem.
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>>18352745
Why would I curse one of the gods? You curse Yahweh.

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blacks used to be decently dressed and had some kind of functional communities in boomers' childhoods. tf did you guys do to them?
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>>18345089
To be honest, by all metrics they were just ahead of the curve as other ethnicities are quickly following suit.
People don't have a sense of dignity and pride they had half a century ago.
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Jews and Christian Zionists fucked them up.
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>>18350030
>People don't have a sense of dignity and pride they had half a century ago
People were super poor as fuck, living in heavy poverty and getting choked out by smog and heavy pollution.
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>>18349966
did i mention that Ella Fitzgerald and Duke Ellington were part-white as well? in fact both of Ella's parents were apparently mulattos.
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>>18345070

Set up all sorts of welfare programs that they're only eligible for if there's no dad in the household.

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I often hear modern Buddhists complain that "western" buddhism views actual buddhism through a predominantly judeo-christian and rational lens, because these are the predominant western worldviews.

But hasn't the same happened to Buddhism everywhere it went? In Bactria it got Greek elements, in China it got heavily influenced by Confucianism, in Japan it got incorporated with Shintoism, and there are countless of native religions in SEA that modified Buddhism.

Why is the "Westernization" of Buddhism uniquely bad?
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>>18343963
Untrue.
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>>18351746
>Western buddhists confuse and ignore this aspect and pretend its all meditation.
There's good cause for that, however, without jhana you basically aren't a buddhist and are never going to gain anything.
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>>18351760
Without taking the refuge in 3 jewels, you aren't a buddhist. The buddha, the teachings, and the monastic community. You dont even know the basics of buddhism.
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>>18351763
Obviously but it's kind of somewhat a little important you do something after that stage
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>>18351768
like what?

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The might of Slavic-Judeo-Bolshevism is like Thanos, inevitable. nazis never stood a chance
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>>18352458
Hail Stalin comrade
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>>18352660
Everywhere, we run the world and commit white genocide literally right now
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>>18352771
>heh i actually WANT to be evil it's COOL!
same old cope, new generation.
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>>18352813
murdering white vermin is a good deed tho, we would be evil if we didn't do that
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>>18352458
>defeated by pizza hut

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Portugal=Suebia
Spain=Gottland
France=Frankia
Italy=Lombardia

These volks must stop shaming their ancestors and return to the uhreimat.
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Im 100% Iberian bull
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>>18352246
Spain divides it as this:

Visigoths: The essence behind the goverment and state.
The Church: The essence behind the culture.
Celts and Iberians: The demographic material substract.
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>>18352246
Because we aren't genetically, look at dna tests. Besides, nobody but poltard nazicels would want to be more ''germanic'', they are the uncoolest people in Europe, bunch of autists who look like variations of Jesse Plemons
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>>18352246
>uhreimat
The clock homeland?
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>>18352246
>Don't speak Germanic languages
>No significant Germanic DNA
>Don't feel any cultural proximity to Germans or Scandinavians outside of typical pan-European traits like Football and consuming copious amounts of nicotine
Yeah they're not Germanic.

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>symbol for fascism is literally a faggot
What did God mean by this?
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>>18352589
Jesus i mean God himself was a pedofag
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>symbol for fascism
>called a feces

huh
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>>18352589
Did anyone ever actually make an ax like this

I miss these mf bros
I miss them so much
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>>18352327
heidelbergensis family portrait
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>>18352333
another heidelbergensis family
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the best of monkey power + human intelligence
a life of exploring, hunting, smashing skulls, and traveling, sometimes sharing the fire with other tribes
What a life
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>>18352342
sounds like fun
smug neanderthal trickster looking dude
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>>18351933
But is that because of neanderthal admixture in eurasians, or because of the lack of even more archaic hominid admixture in sub-saharans?

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Was Wallace Fard Muhammad a cult leader?
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>>18352696
My gut feeling says that he was south asian or from iran or afghanistan. The problem with this theory is that early nation of islam has only a surface level very orientalist understanding of islam and I would expect a muslim or someone born into an islamic society to incorporate more proper islamic concepts and theology into a new religion that he bases on islam. The concept of 24 allahs seems to be based on the concept of the imams in shia islam. Maybe he was a shia muslim who became an atheist and just told the blacks whatever they wanted to hear and that's why he only incorporated surface level orientalist concepts of islam into that religion?

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Why does antisemitism always seem to precede golden ages?
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Jews be like
>We are so much better than you.
>That's why we had no civilization, nation, monuments, we were basically nomads until you gave us a nation in the desert.
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>>18351311
>>18351319
>>18351830
>>18351844
Samefag poltard
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>>18352510
>Samefag poltard
Schizo Jew.
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>>18351311
What golden age came after Hitler? the zionist golden age? Hitler failed and only made jewish interests seem deserved and moral
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>>18351311
Yep, the golden age of Germany..... VGH

When models for Europeans are made using the ancient samples, usually the Davidski coordinates are used:
>Yamnaya
>WHG
>Tur Barcin [Ancient Neolithic Farmer]
>Kura-Araxes ARM Kaps
>Levant PPNB
>Nganassan

However, the problem here is that the Yamnaya sample is already a hybrid, following the historical mixing trends:
>ANE+WHG-->EHG
>EHG+CHG-->Yamnaya
The results of those intermarriages are visible in the attached picture.

As you can see, Yamnaya has significant levels of CHG [Caucasus Hunter Gatherer] and WHG. That distorts the results - WHG levels appear slightly lower than they should, and CHG is absent.


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>>18350147
Did CHG even look much differently from WHG or ANE? Looking at western Europeans, it doesn't seem as a big downgrade.
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>>18350530
They definitely lowered the height of Europeans. Other traits, I'm not sure.
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>>18350530
CHG drifts towards South Asians on PCA charts.
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>>18351315
>>18350530
>>18351021
They drift towards the Caucasus (big shocker).
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>>18349903
So this ANE sample represents the OG whites?


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