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>my poop stained brother fucked my wife and stole my daughter
>now im in a shit part of phoenix!
>REEEEEEE
>*reconverts to judaism because 25% ashkenazi*

what did Sola Fide peeps mean by this?

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Today we're looking at Joseph Stalin, born Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili

Joseph Stalin (12/18/1878 - 3/5/1953) was a Georgian who was the first major head of the USSR, including during WW2, as well as its longest serving head. His actions went on to shape much of the USSR's subsequent history

Some notable feats or facts include
>Born in Gori in east Georgia. Only child to survive past infancy. Father was an abusive alcoholic shoemaker.
>Facial scars after 1884 from smallpox that he tried to have edited out of his photos if possible. Left arm was partly crippled after being hit by a carriage
>Enrolled as a priest but got bored and joined the RSDLP instead. Became the newspaper editor for Pravda and fundraiser
>Arrested and exiled internally multiple times before the revolution. Joined the Politburo after 1917
>Began to seize power. Took control after Lenin died and purged Trotsky. Became well known for his purges
>Adopted the "Socialism in One Country" ideology and replaced Lenin's economic plans with the Five-year Plan System
>Achieved collectivization and rapid industrialization at the cost of a severe famine from '30 - 33, especially in Ukraine
>Initiated the Great Purge against "enemies of the working class" from '34 to '39, killing at least 700k
>Signed a non-aggression pact with Germany in '39 and helped invade Poland. Invaded Finland with extreme difficulties. Annexed the Baltic states
>Invaded by Germany in '41. Despite initial losses, recovered and captured Berlin in April '45

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>>18701846
Surely an even an idiot would run witb the money he could take? What retard plan do you divine?
Ur desperately chatting, pablo
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true psychopath
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>>18701834
The USSR collapsed under a humiliating failure against the combined might of NATO GODS. We wiped the Soviet scum off the earth with extreme prejudice and now we are massacring russoid invaders in Ukraine as revenge for Holodomor. NATO is literally histories protagonists and can’t ever be stopped.
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>>18701768
You're a liberal
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>>18701950
I’m a Showa Statist with Georgist characteristics

>n-no Mr. Moor, you can't just rape and cum inside me, you might get me pregnant-
>Ahh!!
>No, No!!
>...now I'll surely bear your children..
How many c*mmunist women do you think bore half Nafri children for these Anti-C*mmunist Chads?
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>>18700960
Siding with the moors is better than siding with socialists
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>>18700469
How tf is that even possible? Galicia is in the north and was conquered very early on in the reconquista???
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>>18701160
>Spain lost most of its African empire on his watch
They couldn't even wait until he was dead to start dismantling his legacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_March
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>>18701407
It isn't from the Al-Andalus period?
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>>18701939
>Morroccans supported by America
based

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Ancient Conservatives didn't believe in Grooming Theory. Feminists invented Grooming Theory in the 1800s. Conservative Opponents to Women's Suffrage argued that Women were too immoral for Suffrage citing Prostitution, so Feminists retaliated by inventing the Evil Male Oppressor Theory. Feminists said Sexual Morality would increase in Society if Women were granted Suffrage because Evil Men would no longer be able to oppress Women, the exact opposite ending up happening. Feminists used Grooming Theory narratives to hike the age of c0nsent, opponents to the Late 1800s/Early 1900s Age of C0nsent Hike explicitly warned that by hiking the Age of C0nsent you'd be opening the door to blackmail operations due to the fact that teens & people in their early 20s look alike. Feminists used the Evil Male Oppressor narrative to gain the advantage in terms of divorce/sexual harassment settlements. Feminists used the Evil Male Oppressor narrative to gain custody of children by default. The reality is that Pre-Feminism, when teen prostitutes were commonplace in the streets of New York & London, society was overall more moral. Why? Promiscuous Women were understood as Jezebel Harlots & Temptresses & Sirens that tempted Righteous Men into acts of Sexual Immorality. The Promiscuous Women were blamed for the Harlotry because they were the ones selling the illicit product. When a company sells a toxic product, who is at fault? The customer, or the company? Ancient Conservatives held a Female Prostitute including a Teen Prostitute as a 'Vicious Woman', not as a 'Victim of Seduction'. Modern Conservatives believe that Women are better caretakers for children than Men are, no that is not true. A Mother can't control a Male Child as soon as he hits puberty, so Fathers have always been better Parents than Mothers. Nature & God define puberty as Adulthood & given that Human Males are stronger, this means that God & Nature have endowed Human Males with inherently greater agency than Women.
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>>18701389
so, in other words, you like cunny?
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>>18701294
>>18701381
>schizo pedocoded word salad

>>18701384
>they frequently died in childbirth. This was balanced out by men frequently dying in war
>retard spouting reddit memes

what an awful thread
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>>18701398

TLDR: The Adulthood Standard for a Chimpanzee also applies to a Human. Scientifically, Puberty defines Adulthood, not a magical number. Living Organisms develop at different rates, that's basic biology.
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>>18701389
I'm sure their age of consent laws were the reason why this occurred. There is absolutely nothing else which could explain their victory in asymmetric warfare other than the asymmetric nature of their relationship with rape slaves in the mountains of towelheadistan.
>>18701392
He prefers boys. That's one of the many reasons why he uses Afghanistan as an example.
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>>18701294
I think the idea is kind of retarded only because some women genuinely do just like older men, I literally know couples in real life with like 20 year age gaps and it's genuinely a mutual thing and not a grooming situation. It's bizarre to say the least but it does happen

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>As few as 700 Beaker men displaced nearly all previous Iberian Ydna lineages with no signs of violence.
>Women unironically just flocked to the better men leaving matriarchal EEF simps to rot.
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>>18701298
It is more probable that the population was already decimated by the plague of herders that desolated Chalcolithic Europe. Also, when the nomads arrived, they shurely exchanged goods with locals to obtain women (just as Spanish conquistadors did when they arrived America, exchaging their own exotic goods with local tribes or making alliances with chiefs, for women); their offspring then gradually replaced the farmer societies by warfare or just demographic superiority. We have reasons to think this:

>exogamy is very common among primitive cultures in order to avoid endogamy
>most of Spain still spoke pre-indoeuropean languages and worshipped teluric agrarian deities by the time Celts arrived during Iron Age
>the Castilian plains were sparsely popuated by that time IE nomads arrived, so they had plenty fields to grow out of control, as Huns in Hungary millennia later
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>>18701298
>the Castilian plains were sparsely popuated by that time IE nomads arrived, so they had plenty fields to grow out of control, as Huns in Hungary millennia later

I want to emphasize this. Most of EEF communities in Spain were located in the coast connected with other Beaker and Neolithic cultures in Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Britain, France, etc.
That is why most of the megalithic sites in Iberia are located in Galicia, Portugal, Basque Country, Andalucia, Valencia, Cataluña, etc., next to the shores of the sea.

The Castilian plains, the so called empty Spain, which cover the majority of Spain, were generally very sparsely populated, according to the archaeological record. And it is on those plains that the steppe peoples primarily settled (the so-called Motillas Culture, etc.).

The two to four centuries of a gap between the arrival of the Indo-Europeans in Spain and the prevalence of steppe genes represent sufficient time for pastoralist communities, having secured local women as partners (whether through marriage alliances, conquest, or purchase with local tribes as slaves), to expand demographically unchecked across a vast plain of 400,000 square kilometers, an area the size of Norway; and even to conquer the coastal communities in expeditions of looting and pillaging like those of the Muslims, Huns and Vikings in medieval times..

So does anyone actually understand what the fuck his philosophy was or do we just pretend that we do?
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The world does not reflect reality but instead we make reality reflect how our mind organizes things. There are universal and necessary ideas but they don't reflect metaphysics but those law like regularities or pricinples that are ultimately the output of the mind. Secretly, it is actually very hard to not act in line with his views. You never for example tell a chemistry professor there is no need to explain phenomena in their terms because physics classes exist. Both are seen instead as reflecting their respective phenomena. This is a Kantian view. Cognitive and neuroscience are heirs to Kant as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZtQXteAE-w&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQnG0fyEr_w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89xjsBW9AAI&t=1s

https://youtu.be/DbjZEDR5EXI?si=2Q7egv3lTwi3ohvz

https://youtu.be/gjzKATrXHmw?si=pDqNJ2nBZL-DOVNL
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Kant also fully formulated a major account of metaethical non-natural realism. Kantian metaethical constructivism holds that moral principles are not discovered as mind-independent moral facts but are constructed through rational practical deliberation which appear as logical rules and principles. On this view, moral norms are justified because they are principles that rational agents would endorse under appropriate conditions of practical reasoning. For Kant this meant by Kant’s categorical imperative. Moral objectivity therefore comes from the universal requirements of practical reason rather than from an independently existing realm of moral properties or some natural feature of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_yqyOh6Z4
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Kant also has his own view of aesthetics and beauty. Kant held beauty as pleasure were just as false as feelings of pleasure as evidence of religion. They reflected our own desires rather than anything real. For Kant, beauty is experienced through a disinterested pleasure, meaning we appreciate something without desiring to possess or use it. A judgment that something is beautiful arises from the harmonious “free play” of imagination and understanding, and although it is based on subjective feeling, we nevertheless expect others to agree with our judgment. Beauty therefore involves a distinctive kind of subjective universality: we cannot prove that something is beautiful through concepts or rules, yet we regard our judgment as having a claim on everyone’s assent. This was a part of his later work in the Third Critique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Ab7qCHjnE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kb8Vc-hUBU
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>>18701890
>>18701923
the system seems innocuous on its surface, but Kant is the literal originator of globohomo. Woodrow Wilson is described as the "most Kantian" president.
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Kant is also the main theorist of human rights and the state behind what we recognize as the state . Kant argues that the central purpose of politics is to establish a rightful condition in which the external freedom of each person can coexist with the freedom of everyone else under universal laws. A reciprocal order of duties in other words. This requires a republican constitution grounded in individual freedom, legal equality, representative government, and the rule of law;. Kant argues that republics should also be less inclined toward war because citizens themselves bear its costs and the state has an obligation to the individual. A state that serves only a single person for example fails is this basic rationality or if only served one family in charge of a state or some religious authority. Kant theorized something like a UN but not as we have it. The idea is because states exist in something like a state of nature or market with each other. As a result states should form a federation or league of free states committed to resolving conflicts without war rather than simply establishing temporary peace treaties. States are to be governed by logical order of public law, and reciprocal freedom much and that interaction should exist at the international level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCOE7-KoJbU

If you look into it this guy is responsible both for Western Christianity becoming pozzed and Nazism

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VGH MESOPOTAMIA HOME
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>>18700197
Almost Heaven, West Mesopotamia
Taurus Mountains, Euphrates River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, growing like a breeze


Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Mesopotamia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads

All my memories gather 'round her
Miner's lady, stranger to blue water
Dark and dusty, painted on the sky

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>>18701487
Wrong
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>>18701558
underrated
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>>18700197
At least it was before I fucked everything up
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>>18700213
Everything bad about Abrahamism and Jews has its root in ancient Mesopotamia.
Jews just plagiarize ancient Mesopotamian urbanites.

Was the War of 1812 the closest thing the United States had to an existential war after independence?
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>>18701862
You do realize the burning of the White House was more of a symbolic thing right? Real life isn't an RTS videogame where taking down the enemies head of state building is the only win condition
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>>18701864
>Saying there were fears of this happening does not make it an existential threat.
Fair point, but we're talking about the "closest thing [...] to an existential war," rather than exclusively actual existential wars. Americans fearing for their own existence during the war of 1812, even if unreasonable, would fit that bill, albeit I now see how that could also apply to the Civil War.

>Also, you are bouncing between existential threat meaning 'taking a bunch of territory' and 'breaking the political identity of the nation (eg annexation),' as it suits you. What do you consider to be 'existential?'
Again, since we had been talking about the "closest thing [...] to an existential war," I had felt it encompassed both to some extent.

>>18701867
>So the destruction of a building is an existential threat?
The actual sacking of a nation's capital is a more reasonable existential fear than the possibility of a vote or possibility of an alliance between enemies.
>They held such a vote on April 29.
Fair. Sort of does away with the argument about a potential secession of Maryland, though.
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>>18701403
the so-called "Patriot War" of 1837-1838 brought on an unusual series of challenges, and show the limit of any government to exercise control against the will of the people. The short version:
> With hard feelings left over after the War of 1812, a bunch of random Americans and Candians get together and decide to have a US-style revolution in Canada
> The loyalists who left American during the revolution had been given power/control in Canada, and their close inter-married group (called the "family compact"), held all power, money and land. The revolution was also about overturning them
> meeting in secret groups they called 'hunters lodges", they planned armed attacks in Canada

The interesting thing here is that both the US and Canadian government were against any revolution; but both were almost powerless to stop anything before it happened. In Detroit, the government captured and seized weapons from the "patriots"; but the 'patriots' simply broke into the jail and stole the weapons back.

The final 'battle' happened across from Detroit in Windsor, and there over the frozen river there was an odd showdown in the middle between the American and Canadian officials, with each waiting to either arrest or kill any revolutionaries who tried to cross back into the US.
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>>18701891
>Sort of does away with the argument about a potential secession of Maryland, though.
Not for the first two weeks of the war.

>Spends the whole thread saying the Civil War was not an existential war for the Union.
>we're talking about the "closest thing [...] to an existential war," rather than exclusively actual existential wars
Alright, I'm done.
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>>18701904
>Alright, I'm done.
I mean, I imagine you would be. That was my concession after all.
>I now see how that could also apply to the Civil War.

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I went to a lecture about the Middle Ages and questions about marriage were raised, mainly regarding the debitum conjugale and I heard so many bizarre things that I don't even know where to begin. The speaker said it was one of the medieval laws of "gender equality" and marriage was based on a strict interpretation of the letters of Saint Paul in the Bible (1 Corinthians 7:3-5), which stated that the husband's body belonged to the wife and the wife's body belonged to the husband. then she talked about the "Impotence Trials" where apparently the man would undergo a humiliating physical examination performed by experienced female matrons from the community, including married women, to determine if there was any anatomical impediment or witchcraft (the so-called "knot in the needle"), and then they would report the verdict to the male judges.
the speaker said they used stimulating oils and ointments made from herbs to try to generate a physical reaction or they applied specific massages and touches to intimate areas... dude?!?!? Wtf!??!
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>>18700335
Why
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>>18699678
That would include checking for blood on the bed sheets to ensure the bride's hymen was broken by intercourse.
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>>18697298
Royals had a lot worse maternal mortality rate than the commoners for a variety of reasons.
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>>18696520
Is the speaker a jew?
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>>18696520
The "Enlightenment" "thinkers" really needed to shut the fuck up about things they didn't understand just to make themselves and their monarchs look good.

Everybody knows about the Depression in the US after the 1930s. but from what I understand, the one that more or less took place on and off from the great financial panic of 1873 throughout the 1880s and 1890s (Mumford's "Brown Decades") gets way less attention. It was just as grim as the one before WWII: Mass unemployment with huge gangs of hungry men wandering around the country begging or looting, bloody strike suppression, a wave of political assassinations, the farming class ruined by fall of consumption, the first appearance of boycotts, etc. I think the period from after the civil war until the beginning of the 20th century really doesn't get that much attention at all in general, but most sources i've read on it portray it as pretty grim times. What are some good books on the topic?
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>>18701878
The Panic of 1837 also brought on a severe nationwide depression; which all but bankrupted the population and at least a few states

[This was the panic accidently brought on by President Jackson's mishandling of the Bank of The United States situation]
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>>18701878
it's funny though but the government did nothing and most of these panics resolved themselves in a few years unlike FDR dragging the Depression out a decade with his retardation

hello, i dont support islam because i dont want my daughter to be forced to wear a full body trashbag cloak every time she goes outside, and i do not want a swarthy desert ape to cut off my son's foreskin and eat it, and i think people should be able to drink beer and eat bacon and have pet dogs if they want to, and i do not want my grandchildren speaking arabic and dying of heat exhaustion when they go to the mandatory visit to the holy land of saudi arabia to kiss the anus of the cube of saturn, and i do not believe babies are born following this religion because babies do not naturally pray 5 times per day or say the shahada when they pop out of the womb, and i believe mudslimes lie more than any other religion does, does that make me islamaphobic lol.
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>>18701486
Yes, yes it does.
Please grab a book and inform yourself about the Muslim world. No one is going to force you to do all those things.
If you had actually done your research instead of relying on racist caricatures from /pol/ you'd realize that even in Muslim countries there are significant centuries-old Christian communities that have been living in harmony with the larger society like the Copts in Egypt as just one example.
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>>18701539
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QGnPFVC-71g
Lol.
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>>18701539
Good bait bro.
Is this a joke or are you actually a retard? Lol.
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>>18701486
Yes, chudfidel. You're a bigot. Now bow down and pray to the cube.
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>>18701486
But Anon you don't have children and you're making this up

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We have /his/torical proof of miracles at the Temple in Jerusalem. The most recent known are reported by eight early sources, citing eyewitnesses and even physical evidence, which report miraculous fire and a star like a cross that marked clothes halting the Jews' and Emperor Julian's plan to rebuild the Israel Temple in 363 AD.

They report that the Temple couldn't be built by them because flames burst from its foundations, and there was an object in the sky like a cross that both marked and astonished the workmen.

First is Ammianus Marcellinus, a non-Christian contemporary of Emperor Julian. You can read his account here: https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0082%3Abook%3D23%3Achapter%3D1%3Asection%3D3 -

"terrifying balls of flame kept bursting forth near the foundations of the temple, and made the place inaccessible to the workmen, some of whom were burned to death; and since in this way the element persistently repelled them, the enterprise halted"

And Gregory Nazianzen, who knew Emperor Julian personally, wrote just months after the event according to https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/gregory_nazianzen_3_oration5.htm:
"But what is yet more strange and more conspicuous, there stood in the heavens a light circumscribing a Cross...Let those who were spectators and partakers of that prodigy exhibit their garments, which to the present time are stamped with the brandmarks of the Cross! For at the very moment that anyone, either of our own brethren or of the outsiders, was telling the event or hearing it told by others, he beheld the miracle happening in his own case or to his neighbour, being all spotted with stars, or beholding the other so marked upon his clothes in a manner more variegated than could be done by any artificial work of the loom or elaborate painting”.

There are six other sources, they all show: the God of this Temple is the true God, and he won't allow either Pagans or Jews to build His third Temple.
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>>18701851
>to say to someone that doesn't believe in "extremes of holy"

Hence the historical evidence. We have it documented that when there are extremely holy places and things, our everyday experience doesn't hold. Same as all other extremes.

So do you believe that the historical evidence I've presented establishes that the Temple is such a place? If not, what do you posit actually happened that our sources are recording?
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>>18701833
>a genuinely atypical place
Like a haunted house?
I genuinely think it's insane to think a god would care about real-estate, about particular geographical locations. It's just not the kinds of thing I would expect from this universe's cause.
This is a belief I hold firmly.

I worry that 1663 year old stories (the historical evidence) would never be enough to overcome my belief. So even if it were the case that those stories were true, I would be stuck with the false belief of thinking that they are made-up.
It is what it is.
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>>18701861
What you are trying to do with the evidence, prove miracles - doesn't get off the ground if you don't already believe in miracles (extremes of holy).

>We have it documented that when there are extremely holy places and things
No we absolutely don't!
Now you're just equivocating on terms, because you picked the word "holy" in English language for your pseudoscientific theory
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>>18701833
The temple was never holy and no miracles ever occurred at the location, not before Titus destroyed and certainly not after its destruction.
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>>18700806
That video is talking about denial of causality wholesale and honestly it's not very well argued for. You can still deny for example that secondary causation exists and hold onto the idea that it all depends on the necessary being which by definition it is impossible for it to not exist in any possible world.
>What is something that can be known with logical certainty that does not ultimately boil down to "these are mutually exclusive and therefore mutually exclude"?
The law of identity, modus ponens, etc. But you're being extremely vague about what that even means and you're not using the terms most people talking about these things use. Logic isn't a force it's just the way things operate as observation and reason shows us. Grounding that in the mind of a being that is in control of everything and has designed everything is very straightforward and requires no external explanation. As for you unsolved equation I don't know what you mean by that. We have an answer already for your formula so we know how that works. Swapping the variables here is trivial

Which cultures were against these ugly body modifications?
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>>18700945
Ironically just the jews and muslims

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>I wish to confess. We saved you. We saved communism as an idea. All your worthless memes. We should have let the Nazis kill you all in the 1940s. Yes, Antifa, I’m guilty. Guilty. Is that what you want to hear? I didn’t create fascism. Of that I’m innocent. I’m guilty of a far more monstrous crime. I’m guilty of being conservative. I’ve been on trial for that my entire life. I did not do it. I did not destroy the USSR, but I wish that I had. Watching your stupid experiment die in 1991 gave me more relief than a thousand lying whores. I wish I was the monster you think I am! I wish I had enough fascism for the whole pack of you. I would gladly give my life to watch you all be annoyed by it. I will not give my life for Palestine, and I know I’ll get no justice here, so I will let the Gods decide my fate. I demand a trial by combat.
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>>18701840
I never watched Game of Reddit so I'm afraid I've gotten nothing from this reference (or what I assume is a reference)
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>>18701840
Who asked you to give your life for Palestine short arse?


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