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Old thread is capped >>10868636

This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. "Boystyle" is shorthand for "boystyle lolita" and refers to the masculine counterparts of Japanese lolita and, often, aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. We usually just use "ouji" here.

>Shopping spreadsheet
This is broken, now. Can it be fixed?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api

>Buttcape-sensei's shopping guide (mentions which brands/shops have men's or custom sizes):
https://stephano.me/blog/where-to-buy-ouji-fashion/

>Blogs for info; the classical-alice japanese blog link broke and has been removed
buttcape[.]blogspot[.]com
https://ouji-armoire.tumblr.com/tags
https://www.zhihu.com/question/398686032 (in Chinese; tap "read more" for a nice rundown of taobao ouji brands, which begin below the "couple clothes" section.)

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>>10964408
Just wear normal lolita then. Less gay when you wear a jsk instead of gayboystyle shorts
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>>10974383
They're only gay if you behave like a fruit.

Have you ever thought about getting plastic surgery for cosplay?

If you did, were the results favorable?
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>>10971848
Depends on what you are expecting for results.

>fat transfer moves fat from ass/gut/back/etc to tits
>only provides very small boost
>needs to be done multiple times over a long period to get a big change
>more surgery means more chances for things to go wrong or get infections
>high chance of fucking up your ability to breast feed because they are poking around inside your boob trying spread out the fat with a huge syringe
>need to have some chub for them to transfer anything
>if you lose a ton of weight, you'll lose your tits
>if you want to go big, you'll get huge floppers because its just injected fat with no structure, and not big naturals with booba shape defined by your genes

>implants
>goes in and done
>chance of infection, like all surgery

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It worked for Nigri
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>>10919926
maybe if i had unlimited money and it was magical with no chance of complications or sides. as a man all i'd want done would be the most minor shit like lasering off any hair on my neck and crevice between neck & chin because those are really annoying to shave. maybe thicken my sideburns. absolutely not worth the money and whatever minor risk any medical procedure invites.

as for women getting it i don't really care as long as they don't look weird. areas where women get work done mean nothing to me. most attractive part of a woman to me is the anterior triangle of the neck, specifically the area around the platysma. if a girl has a beautiful neck every inch of her will be perfect
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>>10919926
When men do it they get dog piled by fakestream media and basedciety, but for women it's absolutely fine. Looksmaxing that's 2 sides of the same coin.
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>>10974847
Laser isn't a medical procedure tbdesu, it's less intrusive than a tattoo would be. and the technicians usually are knowledgeable in other things like skincare, grooming a lot else rlly.

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Ive been into anime and japanese culture my entire life and ive only recently been interested in cons and making cosplays. Looking more into them, ive found out that its been heavily bastardized and a shell of its former self… or so ive been told. That begs the question, are they even worth going to?
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>>10974417
>WAY more shit out there now as a buyfag
Despite me being positive about this in my initial reply, I don't actually think of this as a good thing for cons as a whole because the more cons turn into flea markets for nerdslop, the more the average congoer will be some speculator that doesn't actually care about anime. The end game of cons having their dealer rooms be the main draw (there are already a few cons in my area that are literally just dealer rooms with VA's doing autographs in the back, and nothing else except maybe an arcade area) is you end up with a con floor full of the types of people getting in fights at Target over Pokemon packs. But like I said, if you're primarily a buyfag then right now you're eating good at cons.

>cosplay has become huge and accessible
This has been something of a double edged sword in the community. On the one hand, increased accessibility is good since more people who want to try cosplay can get into it, but on the other hand it diluted cosplay from being a form of fanart to being a method for peacocking. When cosplay was harder to make, it took real dedication to make a cosplay, let alone a good one, so you had to really be into whatever you're cosplaying to see it as worth it, and because of that people could use your cosplay as a conversation starter. Now people will just do FOTM cosplay without even knowing the character. At my old job I remember talking to this girl one time that was taking suggestions for what to cosplay at some upcoming convention, picking something out depending on if the character looked good without even knowing what show they were from. I'm told this is now a common practice in this community among zoomer girls who are then horrified they unknowingly cosplayed something from "diddy media".

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>>10974417
>>10974572
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>They aren't overpriced and undervalued (yet)
I've seen some recent saturday-only passes have early bird prices that are as much as how much three day passes were 10 years ago, and that's adjusted for inflation (i.e. the price of the 10 year old pass multiplied x2). And with some convention staples from 10 years ago now being gone, I wouldn't call what we have now a good value. Still fun to attend, but not a good value.

>before corpos fuck it up completely
This is one of the few aspects of modern cons that are undeniably better than 10 years ago. Anime streaming services (at least in my state) have stopped having a presence at every con and now either fully endorse one specific con in the area or have completely disappeared. While you do feel the effect of cons having less money invested into them by anime streaming services these days, it is nice to not be bombarded with HiDive advertisements at every step. So we're a bit further away now from corpos fucking up cons than we were a decade ago.
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>>10974401
I've found Otakuthon to be mediocre, but I live around there locally and has been there for ages and have not really has been to most other cons. Big stuff I liked to do there doesn't happen anymore and has been replaced with nothing
Both Comic-Con and Otakuthon, it's always the same vendors, it's always the same artists
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>>10974573
>I've seen some recent saturday-only passes have early bird prices that are as much as how much three day passes were 10 years ago, and that's adjusted for inflation
Did you check to see if those are specifically for-profit cons pic VERY related?
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>>10974401
>>10974578
Actually I take this back, it may be the luck of the draw, but I used to hear from other artists at the comic-con that the Otakuthon barred artists using other people than themselves to sell their stuff or something like that? But anyways, this was probably overall one of the better dealer's room year. A lot of the usual dogshit artists that were there every goddamn con were gone. Bunch of REALLY good artists I haven't seen around before. Shitty bootleggers merch shops were gone, those fuckers selling the same blind bags, keychains, playmats and light boxes and usually held 2 fucking massive booth spaces were gone (They were there at the comic-con however...) and we got a bunch of interesting shops I have never seen before. Oh, also none of that shitty usual shop with the 90$ blu-rays
On the other hand, the figurines booth (mostly all prizes) this year had absolutely obscene prices
On the activity/things to do side, the Sunrise idol thing evolved and now it's a huge concerts with a dozen~ Kaigai idol groups. I hope that's a thing that'll be back every year

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This is the best Canadian convention. Who is going tomorrow?
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I went! Had a fantastic time. Had a wedding to go to so only Sunday. Man it’s so cool to come back after 7 years of no Cons and to see so many familiar faces! It’s like the same cohort I went as a teenager with but now we’re all 25-30
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Oh god there is WAY to much animethon staff that have discord mod disease
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>>10974660
Ew discord. Only for stealing photos.
Going dressed as Golden Boy today. Fer sure going to the after party tonight too
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Anyone here going to SFU summer fest?
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>>10974830
Yes

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What is the most ass backwards advice you've ever seen someone give a new or inexperienced Lolita? From encouraging buying on SHEIN to suggesting Argyle with a pin striped JSK and good ol' defending replicas, let's hear it'
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>>10974751
>oh the troons!!!!
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>>10974818
I think there are plenty of good quality handmade pieces though.
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>>10974818
>"low quality handmade"
>>10974848
>"good quality handmade"

low quality handmade and good quality handmade... are different categories of handmade... good quality handmade is not going to be "affordable", which was their point
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>>10974837
unironically yeah but just the hons and the ones that look polyamorous, if they look good it's not a problem. influencers are cheering the uglies in the name of wokeness
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>>10974850
>Anonymous 08/14/26(Fri)07:51:33No.10974850▶
>>>10974818
It's a lot more affordable than brand, so in comparison it could be an ok price. I stated that bc there are lolitas who are against handmade and think you should wear exclusively burando.

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i dunno when drawthreads tapered off here but i periodically check back and there just never is one. so ill be the change I want to see in the world. post coords for me to draw, thank you. (and other artists too of course)
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>>10969919
This one's >>10969393 relatively recent
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>>10969922
Oops, meant this one
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The HD upscaler filter kind of chewed up some of the finer details, but I love this dress.
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>>10949139
cutest coord!
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>>10907148

Is anybody else at this

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Why is there such a stigma against girls who cosplay for money? As someone who has never had a girlfriend, being able to send money to cute girls who cosplay as the characters that I love is one of the only things in my life that makes me feel like I have a purpose. From patreon to onlyfans, it's on of my biggest joys and motivations in my life. One day I hope I can give money to a cosplayer at a con in real life and not just through the internet.
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>>10925901
Lying gay man
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>>10872877
Boob grabs would likely fall under prostitution laws. You can't even touch strippers in the US, though you can in French Canada. The jurisprudence carve-out for the kinks is obviously a violation of the spirit of the law.
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>>10971052
Thats a shame
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>>10868287
Completely ruins con culture, along with all the rest of the normgroids who have entered fandom in recent years. These girls don't give a fuck about anything nerdy, they just cosplay whatever the latest hot girl is and get losers to pay to get stepped on. Honestly, its the losers that get me even angrier because they enable this behavior and call it harmless, its not. Its led to the shitification of all major cons which are now so big that its hard to even get tickets either due to price or scalping. I remember a time when it was just nerds who'd come to even the massive cons like NYCC and it was fun. Nerdy guys and girls came out of their shell, talked to you and others, everyone was making friends, even hooking up in many instances. Now if you even look in a girl's direction at a con you're called a creep. No one wants to converse or make friends, they just want to watch the latest goyslop trailers, pay money to get stepped on or buy shitty 3D printed goods. BIG CONS FUCKING SUCK BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THESE GIRLS AND THEIR SIMPS!
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>>10868287
Because most of them are prostitutes with Only Fans or Fansly. Therefore they're not real fans, but rather expensive whores making money from scamming sex-starved simps.

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>>10968254
you cant wear that in public
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>>10974571
Well you can't fuck in public either and look how many people record themselves doing it
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>>10956467
Built like Iggy Pop.
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>>10939739
>I'd throw a nut in her but I'm 95% sure she'd just lie there and have zero fun.
Sounds like every women who has sex with me
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>>10933427
Kudos to them for actually going to that staircase. I lived a few blocks from it for a while and its one of the shittiest and most dangerous areas in the Bronx. Those stairs actually lead up to four different housing projects.

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Trap Here
I'm planing on cosplaying Goth 2B soon and I'm looking for shiny boots similar to the ones on the pic on the right, that are in a mans size. I also want to find better fake boobs than the ones i currently use. Preferably latex without being too huge, I don't want to look like an obvious troon or those shitty crossplayers. Make up will be done by my gf.
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>>10974821
pleasers are made to a much better quality across the board so it's worth it, especially if you're on your feet all day for a con or something, but several of the heavily discounted ones can be comparable depending on the specifics of the shoe.
i've had like a 50% success rate (out of 6, I think?) but those were when I knew I was gambling on something that might be lower quality
have fun

the tights are something i usually recommend first for leotards and bunny type stuff but I thought I'd spin out the other ideas I had seen too since they help for some body types
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>>10974641
Flat chastity cage.
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>>10974822
i just tried the leotard with the tights i use for my maid costume and it works great, thanks. Still, at cons I will wear the skirt over it just to be save.
Speaking of bunny outfits, can you reccomend a site?
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>>10974824
not really, the best fitting I've seen has been either custom (local, not ordered, even if I know there are makers for that) or found in the ass end of somewhere while looking for another thing.
the best fabric appearance you might expect at the lowest price range is probably some kind of poly plush-velvet since the other cheap ones will suck way more
also depends on whether you want the bust to actually fit flat normally vs filling it in trappily since the cup will generally misbehave even if it's taped or strapped, seamed or not
10 second booru grab to illustrate the point, glory to the people's republic of china

>>10974823
coward
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>>10974827
Heels will never defeat me. I'm looking to fill out the clevage though since I'm planning on getting a fake torso.

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>>10974793
I don't think so
t. check'd fucktons of ai gens in 4chins
>>10974792
like a wise man once said
>"I almost know that girl"
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>>10974799
the lady with the black bag has a low poly face and the booth she's standing in front of is filled with fever dream art
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>>10974801
idk pham, something tells me it is phone ai filter rather than an ai gen, I could be wrong, but I don't think so
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>>10974816
This. AI is taking over editing and is still really bad sadly. It's a real photo (I've seen her before) that's been overly touched.
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>>10974819
Some phones do it automatically

( posted on b yesterday ) my asuka cosplay arrived ! so did my haruhi cosplay, but its too small and the seller is refusing to accept an exchange >:I guess itll do for photos and videos but i dont think i can wear it to cons
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>>10970780
You make a genuinely cute Asuka. Congrats.
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>>10970780
Nice try, but that's not an Asuka cosplay. That's Rei's outfit with Asuka's wig.
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>>10970780
Cute
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>>10970780
Post more pictures I can masturbate to please.
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>>10972503
she posted on /b/, but did she post on /cgl/? probably not

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have you ever found the pics of you cosplaying that you posted online or that somebody else took posted on a pornographic site?
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Can't say I would be too upset if it was on e-hentai because that became an archive for nearly everything now.
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>>10969344
>lovebombing for months fails
>silent treatment for months fails
what am I doing wrong guys? I'm literally following every abuse and manipulation guide online, and it isn't working
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>>10973935
It's time to send penis pictures, anon
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>>10973943
I asked first
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>>10968292
I'm always reluctant to ask for pictures because I don't want them to think I'll jerk off to it. Which I don't intend to do.

I never went to these as I wasn't old enough but I've heard that conventions used to be more fun. Actual nerds going there having a good time.

No social media attention whores trying to get clout
Not overly woke and annoying bullshit shoved down your throat

Just nerds nerdin' out
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>>10973632
Bigger crowds and influencers don't make a convention better, anon.
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This entire thread piles on loaded premises, one after the other, and most are none the wiser. Ignore the chronology. Maybe you know the entire history of your local convention for 25 years, front to back. You can speak about your experiences as objectively as possible, it still doesn't mean that's gonna register in the same way for someone else. There are people who think you're a ""normie"" if your MAL profile has under 5000 ratings, but a ""normie"" to someone else could be "Oh he hasn't even seen JJK." And then there's the matter of what TYPE of conventions you're talking about, what you're even looking for. Speaking for myself anyway, a truly great one has to be in a single central location and have a high percentage of people who will start a conversation about whatever random nonsense is on their mind, probably because we're both hiding flasks. That won't comport to either the extreme fandom enthusiast who thinks it's only about the media itself. It won't comport to the family who treats it like an outing to the mall and sees high turnout as the marker of quality

I guess the skinny here is: it's what you make it. Unless it's some corpo trash, there's no real fun to be had there.
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>why isn't the subculture I enjoyed still a thing?
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>>10926084
I mostly go nowadays to drink or to help out with my sister's booth, but the big difference I see is that everyone's autistic and scared of their own shadow. No one associates outside of preplanned discord groups or small chat about cosplays. Havent crashed a good room party in a very long time
Way less thirst traps, and they werent constantly shilling their socials. Fujoshis have kind of been normalized, which sucks because I used to have talking to them when they were outliers.
They dont feel fun anymore, maybe thats just because I got older
>t. ancientfag that partied with moot at ACEN
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>>10926091
>watching anime
I went to my first weeb con past 2010, but man they had a thick tv showing the entirity of Ginga Densetsu Weedo in a corner and I sat down just as the first episode was starting and enjoyed it + sunk cost fallacy'd myself into just binging the entire thing in a single day. Then they had a cinema showing Mushishi, and I fell in love after half an episode, it remains a comfort show to this day.

>>10926153
>no fat girls
I was genuinely stalked around the convention (main reason I haven't been to a con for a long time .. though I will attend one next week!), who wore a sweaty, slightly greasy/stained onepiece and would try to "glomp me" very much against my wishes whenever she spotted me.

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Guys, how old is too old?

Like, I am an oldfag in his mid 40s. Used to be very involved in the con scene back in the 90s and early 00s. I am currently on a very nostalgic mood about those days of yore, and planning to visit a few of the big cons to see how's the fandom nowadays. Would I be, as you youngsters say, cringe? Worse, would other congoers immediately assume I am a creepy pedophile? I don't really want to ruin some kids con experience like that.

Two things, I would be attending alone because the few con buddies from back then that I still keep in contact, are too jaded and busy to give a shit. Also, I am considering if it is a good idea to go cosplaying as an old timer character.
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I think 23
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>>10936085
I know I'm replying to a really old post but it's hilarious how warped their perception of age is. I'm fat (38 pants) and my hairline is thinning and I still constantly get "wtf I thought you were like 27" from the zoomettes at work when they find out I'm a month away from 40.
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>>10969296
This. Cons mid 30's is actually ideal
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>>10973598


K
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>>10906476
I mean, if you're a super hot chick, you can do it well into your 40s, but this is super rare. As a guy, I'm 38, I definitely would not feel comfortable at a con in where most cosplayers are in their late teens to early 20s but have a mental age of around 14 yrs old.


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