Thread for all other lolita topics and releases. Last thread fell off the board.Angelic Pretty General >>10910824Buy/Sell/Trade >>10899556Ouji General >>10868636Handmade Lolita >>10935785Kumya General >>10929865
BTSSB re-released Elizabeth and the Ribbon Heart bag, including a darker pink called Cherry Pink: www.babyssb.co.jp/series/20241206_elizabeth_dress_and_head_dress_set_ribbon_heart_bag/
BTSSB and Volks released new Super Dollfie clothes: https://dollfie.volks.co.jp/sd/special/babyssb/sp2412.html
AP is re-releasing their Hello Kitty collab with Sanrio, plus Little Twin Stars and Cinnamoroll: https://angelicpretty.com/Page/Feature/SANRIO.aspxGo keep the AP thread alive >>10910824
VM released... this thing. As usual the model looks mildly ill in her yellow eyeshadow. https://www.victorianmaiden.com/collections/all
Moitie released a few things, but this was the most interesting. https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/collections/fleur/products/a-00468?from=itemAll_10That's all I have for brand news. Ursa Major also happened. Discuss.
any highlights from ursa major?
>>10942960>"Sponsored" by babysf, VIPs got some postcards and appointment priority. >Gothic Lolita Market's second time in US.>Various western indie brand debuts, some of which were actually good. >Haenuli was there, but no brand guests otherwise. >Panel lineup mainly consisting of "How to be a youtuber" and "How to use lolibrary", rendering the convention more of a 3-day shopping event than anything. Dance event turnouts were bleak. Coord contest was unremarkable. >Doll museum was actually fairly active, panel host gave out doll-sized badges and ribbons. >Massive turnout for photo shoots. >Massive swap meet turnout.>Ursa Major 2025 is confirmed All in all, not bad for a second year convention, but besides the VIP shopping pass and swap meet, there's not a lot of incentive to buy a badge. Hopefully next year they flesh out the panel lineup a bit more. I'm not sure the convention can sustain itself if it's essentially just a weekend pop-up j-fashion mall.
>>10942945Not a fan...
>>10942945what the hell
>>10942945The gloves
>>10942983thanks for the writeup, i was also curious. how did the popular vendor's stock hold up? i saw multiple people describe the day as frustrating or exhausting so was wondering if everyone sold out, or maybe it was just crowded
>>10943082The GLM sold out of anything good fairly quickly. The VIP line was huge, so there wasn't much left by the time regular badge holders got in. They also did not bring as much stock as they did last year. The Ursa market vendors varied more. Some of the new indie brands sold out of everything but necklaces within the first 20 minutes or so. I regretted not going there first, because I ended up only buying one thing the entire weekend. It was pretty crowded, too, but the stock issues were definitely a major issue. I feel sorry for anyone who bought the VIP badge but ended up at the end of the line. People were lining up over an hour before the doors opened, so if anyone who didn't show up early probably didn't get anything.
>>10943109>The VIP line was huge, so there wasn't much left by the time regular badge holders got in.didn't this happen last year, too? (i didn't go, so only secondhand info.) i wonder how UM can prevent this from happening in the future. the entire event is about shopping, so i'd be pretty frustrated if i had VIP but everything was sold out.
>>10943165VIP costs extra, too. Last year stock held up through the VIP line, but there were either less VIP badge holders, or they all showed up late. I know some non VIPs who managed to buy some things, and there were plenty of leftovers that were posted to the online shop. This year I was one of the first in the door, so I could see there was just less stock, and the online shop only had a couple of items. I'm not sure what they could do about it. They would either need to have vendors bring more stock, or sell less VIP passes.
Does anyone know what the deal is with lady sloth? I thought they were closing, but they never did
>>10944210>trash indie brand for has the only seamstress that graded for patterns for their core fan base (fatties) quit>slavic bestiary releases with same hem size for normal and plus size>fatties try to complain>LS tells them to suck it and that they aren't even going to make Lolita anymore, just casual wear>this gets announced on social media>over the next 2 years LS is constantly having "going out of business" and sample sales>really just milking the sympathy and money out of gullible lolitas since their casual wear wasn't getting any traction>Finally an update comes that they are just scaling down their studio because they can't get away from the quitting Lolita lie any longer
>>10944244>trash indie brand for has the onlyyou wanna try that again gull?
>>10944246No. You can use context clues to find the missing word.
>>10944244Thank you. I was wondering that was the case. It felt like a constant "going out of business" gimmick. And was confused when I kept seeing them release more new items.
It's 2025!>What was your favourite purchase of last year?>What releases/re-releases are you looking forward to or hoping for this year?
Anyone going to Great Lace? Ticket price seems a little expensive, especially for a first time event. Plus there is no mention in the FAQs about refunds due to weather, what if the weather is still too bad to travel anywhere in March? I’m not familiar with Midwest weather but it sounds risky to buy flights and a few ticket for an event in the winter in the Midwest
>>10945399While it'd be possible, March (especially end of) is pretty late in the season to get such significant inclement weather that anything would need to be canceled.
>>10944731>What was your favourite purchase of last year?Not technically a purchase, since it was a trade, but Baby's Marie Rose OP! Finally got my dream dress thanks to a fellow gull>What releases/re-releases are you looking forward to or hoping for this year?Another year of irrationally hoping and praying for a velveteen Elizabeth OP rerelease
>>10945580gorgeous, congrats
>>10945399There's a Great Lace discord server where you could ask that question. https://discord.gg/DTe92aThPz As a Midwesterner, weather wise, what's trickiest is the temperature. Could be in the 70's or the 30's as we transition into spring. You usually don't have to worry about extreme weather around this time of year besides rain or maybe snow.
>>10945399Weather will likely be fine in March
Anyone get model acceptance for the great lace? I think I got a rejection email for AtePie.
I'm the Anon that posted about commisioning VM's short boot replicas in leather. Got them a while ago.No complaints about fitting, custom-made and all. Had them made with a shorter heel for comfort's sake but overall pretty happy with the result. Leather looks and feels good, so from now on whenever possible I'll have lolita shoes made-to-order.
>>10946380Who did you commission?
>>10946391A local shoemaker. My only complaint was that he took way too long but at least he delivered. Next pair I'll ask a coworker of his and see if he can deliver sooner.
>>10946395Is he accepting non-local commissions? Those are beautifully done, I'm thoroughly impressed.
>>10946407No international shipping, unfortunately. I'll still ask him since he's wanting to expand his business and ship nationally. Maybe that will motivate him.
>>10946407I'm >>10946455. Sorry Anon, shipping from our country to the US is way too expensive and it's actually more than what he'd charge for the boots themselves. You'd be paying double for them, unless you don't mind that, in which case I could try asking him again but the shipping cost made him really hesitant.
>>10946645Is it in the EU?
>>10946646Try south of the border.
I know there's a decent cross over between the lolita and BJD community so I figured I'd ask here. I'm thinking of making miniature versions of lolita brand dresses to sell. What prints and sizes would you like to see? Also, how do you feel about using custom printed fabric of prints? I don't personally think this goes into replica territory, given that they are sized for dolls, but does anyone else feel differently? I of course wouldn't copy anything that has a doll sized version already. I'm planning on hand making maybe 3 of each set, so no huge runs or anything. Is Etsy still the best place to sell these types of items?Thanks in advance for anyone who is able to answer.
>>10946926Love this idea!Baby's recent collab with Volks was only for SD sizes, so I'm really interested in MSD size lolita dresses. I don't mind doll-sized versions of prints personally. I'd want to buy one so I can match my doll with a print that I already own.As a sweet lolita, I'd love to see Milky Planet because I don't think it ever got a doll-sized release.
>>10946926I've seen people make and sell mini sugary carnivals and some other prints. I think it's considered OK.
>>10946926I would love some oldschool replicas in MSD or YoSD size.Etsy is still widely used to sell doll clothing, but having your own storefront has grown in popularity as well
>>10946926>>10946926i've been really wanting to see more 1/6 and 1/4 scale doll clothing. in my experience, those are hard to find compared to 1/3 scale (SD), unless you have a doll that fits into pulip clothing.
>>10946645>>10946646Boots Anon here. I tried talking to him into giving it a try but the shipping costs spooked him too hard from trying international comms. He's preparing to start his online business and do stuff local and nationally, so I feel he might give it a try if things take off for him. Cheer up, Anon, there's hope.That aside,>IW won't ship internationally anymoreI want to get stuff from IW but everytime I checked their site everything is sold out. I know they have their special members system but I've read it's a pain in the ass to get in in the first place. Is used really the only option now?
Holy shit /cgl/ is dead. This thread has been active for two months - wtf? I remember when we used to go through a lolita general like once every few days or more. Where did all of the seagulls go??
>>10946940>>10946945>>10946977Thank you all for the feedback. I will probably start with MSD size in this case. Not too sure about Milky Planet (it seems like it would be difficult to piece together / trace for printing.) but I do have milky-chan planned.
>>10946981Just use tenso, it's not hard. Mintkismet has a membership, so she can get you preorders if you're worried about them selling out
>>10946985board is 70% softcore porn and 30% infighting, so everyone is on discord now.
>>10946985The 900 second timer killed all actual discussion on the entire site, nothing but bots and premium users
>>10947012I noticed that timer. I just get my session verified with email. >>10946998Is there a link to the discord
>>10946997My country is not on Tenso's list of countries they ship to. Looking for alternatives but any reccs? Buyee doesn't seem to work with IW online shop, sadly.
>>10947016it isn't a specific one, it's various servers.
>>10947017Rakuten warehouse maybe?
>>10946985Man, me too. I miss the CoF threads even if half of the coords were garbage, at least they were the premise for some discussion.>>10947012Yes fuck this bs. It made sense when they introduced it at first for /biz/, because the board was overblown with shitcoin shills, but on /cgl/? It makes no sense besides a deliberate attempt to datamine or kill off the website.You should probably join the lolita fashion threads on the farms /g/ board, if you want to stay on an imageboard to discuss egl.
>>10946996late but would kill to twin Sugary Carnival in 1/4 or 1/3
>>10946985social media has captured the market
Probably belongs in stupid questions but besides the collabs, what pieces have Kanon wakeshima worn in her early days? Was the white dress in Still doll custom or not related?
Erg. I missed the Kumya-chan's Sweet Love Series reservation period. Does anyone know if the dresses were up for reserve? Or Was it just the cap and jacket?
>>10947246If I remember right, her early outfits were custom and produced by Moi Meme Moitie.
>>10947494It was just the cap and jacket, the actual series still hasn't been released yet despite valentine's day has already happened...
>>10946985I miss having a centralized western lolita comm so badly. I don't want to have to use shitty unsearchable unarchivable discord servers and facebook groups to talk about my hobby and i don't want to constantly have to ask around for the current specific page people are using just for it to be dead or full of retarded gendie itas.>>10947012fucking hiroshimoot
I wish western lolitas wore more current releases from less popular lolita and otome brands. I never see anyone wearing things like marchentica or m petit. I barely even see people wear new stuff from axes femme, etc, or even atelier pierrot. Everyone in the west seems stuck on releases from 5+ years ago.
>>10947698It has been disastrous, but I'm not sure if can be fixed. There are public spaces on Facebook and reddit and people simply don't use them anymore because they are full of itas and tourists. Something like a vetted space that doesn't allow any politics whatsoever could work. It's sad. I miss the lj days.
>>10947708marchentica is pretty popular in some western classic circles, it's just that classics usually split off into their own comm instead of sticking with the main.
>>10947708you can help spread brand awareness
Watched a lor video against my better judgement. She went on a tangent about how uncreative it is for lolitas to wear brand sets and people who buy just brand and don't buy other stuff are missing out. What is it with western lolitas and attacking the brands that made the fashion? Like, baby, meta, and moitie are not huge companies. I feel like westerners think brand = big rich company, and company = evil, but they're not big or rich. They're basically small businesses that make a really unique product, and supporting them is good.
>>10947846She only took this view recently. Remember she used to exclusively wear brand in the beginning of her youtube channel. There were several indy western brands around where she lived, taobao and some Korean companies starting. It sounds like she is pandering to an audience that can't afford or fit into the burando she used to wear regularly. If it wasn't that she would approach it from the view that having more options is a good thing in general. She wouldn't be criticizing people for enjoying something in a way that doesn't impact her.
>>10947848I wonder if she can't wear it anymore. It sounded like sour grapes. I'm just tired of western influencers like her telling everybody to avoid Japanese and buy Chinese and western instead. It's just disrespectful.
Does anybody else feel like they have to have their wardrobe perfect?I keep wanting to sell things that are slightly the wrong color or version of what I want or I don't think are perfect, to achieve a perfect wardrobe.
>>10948085Imperfections make life fun. Don't think about it so hard!
>>10947849Lor has looked like a hot mess perma-ita ever since she started doing youtube videos. The idea of her giving anybody fashion advice is hilarious to me.
Boots anon here.To the Anonette interested in commissioning shoes from my local shoemaker: good news, the guy is actually making stuff for people out of the country. He told me he's made shoes for people in the US since last time we spoke, so I think he's really trying to expand his market. I told him about someone being interested in his work because they were really impressed with the boots I posted here. There is hope.Bad news: doesn't speak English.
>woman goes to try on on otks at a swap meet>i tell myself i don't care, i'm not the seller>till i hear her dry-ass feet rasp and scrape down the length of the socksomeone who loves this woman, please give her lotion and a pumice stone
>>10948212That's horrifying, I would never let anyone do that, maybe at least if it was over socks they were already wearing
Is there an age limit for lolita fashion? Is it always cringe after your mid-twenties?
>>10948345no
>>10948345Think we're at a point where there's more lolitas over that age than under it, excluding China and 99lo tiktokers
>>10948345No. Misako, one of the most famous/popular lolitas of all time, is in her 40s. Rinrin is another very popular one who is in her 30s.
Are circus/carnival/clown motifs totally dead?
>>10948672not at all
>>10948672The next Ursa Major event is circus themed
>>10948672>>10948673>>10948675Wait, clown lolita is an actual thing? like not just bullying itas?
>>10948703There's a bunch of circus/carnival themed brand dresses
>>10948703
how do you keep your dresses still when taking photos?
>>10948893lulz
>>10948893exorcise the spirit who lives within it?
VM's Ameria Lacy LADY Mallory OP is up for reservations until 14th April>https://www.victorianmaiden.com/collections/ameria-lacy/products/2504op044
>>10949818What's with her hair and makeup?
>>10949821vm stylists are always on crack. this whole image is cursed honestly.
>>10949827>>10949821It's like they do their models dirty on purpose
>>10949836i feel bad because mintkismet did some modeling for them as well and she's a gorgeous girl but all victorian maiden did was take the most unflattering photos ever. i don't know what it is but nearly all their white models end up looking so bad in promo materials. not saying they need to be meitu-ed to the gods but come on.
>>10949837They look 20 years older and sleep deprived. I would sue VM if I were them
>>10949837I had the same thought, she looks fine in rpa ads and others but the vm photos are really harsh. The other model probably looks much better too.
Hope this isn’t too niche, but are there any classic/gothic pieces that give off a “German aristocrat” vibe? >t. Teutonophile Lolita checking in…
What should I do if I'm just starting out and I don't want to be an ita? I've got no pieces for now, still gathering information on the fashion and trying to figure out personal preferences
>>10950507invest in good staples that fit you: petti, blouses, shoesyou will never have enough blouses
>>10950509Should everything be brand?
>>10950510I wouldn't bother with brand petticoats, several offbrand ones give you better shape at a fraction of the costShoes is 50/50, personally I've had too many pairs fall apart or disintegrate after only a couple wears that I don't think they're worth the price tag especially with so many cute options on taobao nowadaysBlouses, yes. Brand blouses are nice quality and should last you a long time, they're staple pieces and it's worth investing money in getting good ones.
Why is the market so dead right now?
>>10950554Name a reputable payment app people are willing to use that doesn't have a reporting threshold to the IRS
>>10950554The Chinese bought everything.
>>10950556I've been using PayPal for years and have never had to pay anything. I sell plenty of stuff too.
>>10950556If you are reselling stuff you already bought, you are probably not making a profit and don't have to pay taxes because you didn't make a profit.Unless you are an actual business or making a lot of money as a reseller the irs doesn't actually care. Really hope this doesn't actually stop people from selling
>>10947708Anon do you have some good brand recommendations for sweet and hime Lolita ?
>>10950571Pina sweetcollection, chalmiere (axes femme), frasier selectshop
Where and how do you guys get your old school pieces?
>>10950615internet
>>10950615check foreign second hand stores like mercari jp, buy it via the use of buyee, fromjapan and other japanese shopping agents... for china you can try cssbuy... you are welcome..
>>10950615Dumpster diving. I also steal quite a bit at swap meats.
>>10950634>meats
>>10950632Thanks! And do any of you know brands that currently do anything reminiscent of old school?
>>10950632stop spoonfeeding trendhopping retards
Why is it I see so little classic lolitas lately on my IG feed? It's literally a vicious cycle: I mostly see sweet and old school, so ofc if I see coords I like, I heart them, but it tells the algorithm to show more sweet etc etc. So rn there is practically no classic anymore. But I don't understand why there were so little classic cords in the beginning. I know it's the least popular substyle but still, damn. I think if I weren't following classic brands like IW and VM I prolly wouldn't see classics at all
>>10950671>I know it's the least popular substyleYou've answered your own question.
>>10950671There are a lot more Japanese classics. It's dead in part because westerners are stuck on classic from 15 years ago and there's just not that much to go around.
>>10949837She is thin but she has a weak chin that makes her double chinned. She draws it on with makeup and it looks ok with posing/editing a certain way but the brand didn’t do that for her
>>10950771Right, I remember her posing tips from a decade ago that described how to hide a weak chin in photos. TBF, I also am thin with a weak chin and I just fill it with filler. But I'm confused by the brand didn't direct her more for the photos to reduce the look of a doublechin? It's strange to me.
>>10950671Follow Japanese lolitas
>>10950659every western indie brand
>>10950659BtSSB rereleases old school pieces pretty often these days. Babydoll jsk and Millefeuille jsk are on their sites right now and not too long ago they rereleased Elizabeth OP.
>>10950782What brands, every western indie brand I looked into is doing modern sweet or modern gothic
>>10950949There’s at least three western indie brands doing exclusively oldschool-inspired lolita but I’m gonna gatekeep for fun
>>10950957I only know RR Memorandum
>>10950632Seconding FromJapan, its search function will search yahoo auctions, mercari, fril etc for you all in one place
>>10950949RRM, summer tales, wirehead, distant melody, rorita's angel wardrobe, angelegg eglgranted, "brand" is subjective here, and "passion project for old schoolers with a sewing machine" might be more apt
>>10951181>RRMEverything is sold out>Summer TalesEverything is sold out>WireheadEverything is sold out>AngeleggEverything is sold outKek
>>10951313>reee I can't buy everything I want right this secondlolita is a game of patience, stalk secondhand sales and wait for new drops just like everyone else.
>>10951313>trendhopper finds out lolita isn't an instant gratification fueled hobbymany such cases!
>>10951313it's a slow fashion, anon.
>>10951313quit the fashion bruh
>>10951313just go for taobao brands if you want it to be fast. it is an option, don't listen to the anons saying you have no other choice
>>10951413But this person clearly wants to trendhop old school for a few tiktok videos or insta posts, and the Chinese are really bad at it. If they can't afford to wait for drops or are expecting fast fashion prices then they probably can't afford legitimate old school off of the sites you spoonfeed these retards with anyway.
Does anyone have Tyler's newest video? I don't want to pay kekShe's reading some book on 'Why men hate women' (shocked pikachu face) and made a 2 hour video about presumably dumping her pos husband.
>>10951974What a mess. >book on how men think written by a womanI'm sure that will be very insightful.
what is a hoverloli without the hover? a hooverloli?
>>10952008But moids have no issue writing books on how women think and even constructing their entire worldviews around that
>>10952228And that's also stupid and everyone makes fun of it. Not sure your point.
>>10952212roombaloli
>>10951313Meta just released an old school style OP and accessories. A lot of brands see the trend and are releasing pieces so you really shouldn't have a lot of trouble acquiring any.
Looks like Bodyline is coming back from the dead and rebranding to exclusively Lolita?
>>10953290is Mr. Sexpest still involved?
>>10953298Mr. Yanners hasn't been involved in years, think he left even before covid
Are there any active discords? I miss the old /cgl
How do parasols from Meta and Apleberute compare in terms of UV protection and sturdiness?
>>10954453I just bought one from Aplebrute so I'll let you know!
What taobao brands ACTUALLY have good quality? Like at least as good as the big JP brands.
>>10954495>as good as the big JP brands.none
vegans and fake disabled people (canes as accessories never used) fucking ruined meetupscan't go to most nice cafes because of dietary shit and too many stairs, 5 min walk between places is too much for people and is "ableist", i miss hanging out and shooting the shit and making new friends, but now everyone makes their struggle everyone else's problem
>>10954495I think theres some good ones for foundation pieces like pettis/blouses or accessories, but never seen any OPs or JSKs that turned out well from them.
>>10954454Have you tried it out yet?
Where is the best place to sell off my wardrobe? I havent worn any of it since the mid 00s (even though I kept buying pieces until the 2010s) and I feel bad that they are just sitting in a closet.
>>10955625I don't know it's the best but Lace Market is popular for selling stuff.Be sure to not sell too cheap, many of your items may be extremely valuable.
>>10955634>>10955625I'm getting excited thinking about it, maybe new with tags AP prints from early 2010s, maybe borderline extinct old school pieces from the early 2000s. A lot of people are desperate for pieces like this.But even if this isn't exactly what you got please look into it, they could still be worth a lot.If it's gothic or classic they could be worth even more
>>10955634>>10955637These are the ones I've already sorted out. There's another half of the closet I still need to decide what will get sold and which are being kept for sentimental value.
>>10955675>puppet circusYou should go on Lace Market, type in the name of each dress you want to sell (if you don't know the name check lolibrary) and filter by Only Completed auctions (under advanced search). That way you can see for how much the dress has been sold previously. Optionally you can also sort the results by Created Date because old school items have gotten much more expensive lately. For anything that's worth $300+ I would do an auction with no BIN (buy it now price).
>>10955722Thank you for the search advice! It really helps to see the previously sold items.
Prints are retarded. The only reason people buy them is to show off that they can afford brand, I refuse to believe that anyone actually likes that ugly shit
>>10955675Hi! I'm definitely interested in the puppet circus and your collection in general! please email me at aeligator@gmail.com if you'd be down to discuss sales : )
>>10955776believe what you want anon but being miserable about it will only make your 8 solid black jsks that are all definitely different look worse on you
Oldie looking to rebuild their wardrobe. Any brand recs for custom sized blouses? I'm a tall fatty, so want to avoid shirred stuff. Mainly looking at classic/gothic style.10 yrs ago I remember buying some from a Vietnamese brand on Facebook. They did a nice chiffon blouse with pintucks similar to pic related, less lace though. I'm pretty sure most of the indie brands I used to follow are gone now.
>>10956745if you're old you should be sane enough not to refer to yourself as "they" kek
>>10956754the fuck are you on about
>>10956745>10 yrs ago I remember buying some from a Vietnamese brand on Facebook.Glitter Tale? They're still around afaik
>>10956754nonna is using "they" to refer to the viet brand. are you retarded or esl
>>10956754Your reading skills suck and you're fucking annoying.>>10956766Cool, I'll look into them.I went down a rabbit hole and found the brand (The Floral Notebook). Safe to say they are gone now as their last post was in 2017/18.to update my question a little bit, anyone have any brand favorites on 42lolita? they have an almost overwhelming list. So far I was interested in miss point, dawn and morning, Yllia, any low-key stuff along those lines.
>>10955340I love it, it's really nicely made, is incredibly cute and blocks the sun really well. I got the carousel one. Highly recommend them!
Hi friends, noob here. If I’m ordering a custom skirt, for the waist size, will it be close to my belt inches number? Thank you
>>10956929Take out a measuring tape and wrap it around your bare skin.DO NOT use your belt measurement; it's larger then your waist measurement. Same thing with your pants; it's not the size of your waist; the dressmaker wants your BODY measurement, not the garments made larger then you to fit over your body.
>>10956943Ohh okay, thank you. I’ll go a buy a tape measure
>>10956929male
>>10956960you think women don't wear belts?
>>10956993women's belt sizes are usually not in inches, they are in small/medium/large
>>10956994I work at a theme park and we wear unisex belts sized in inches, I never wear belts outside of work so I didn't know lol. That's good to know though
Gobelin Bouquet MTO. What are you gulls getting?https://metamorphose.gr.jp/en/series/1936
>>10957021>no skirtanother cringe fatty release, who cares
>>10957021am I the only one autistic enough to notice she is making subtle horn signs with her hand in all the pics in there, pretty sure this is not the only time I see her doing this
>>10957035
>>10957038>shcizo>when you can just see the horn signs clearly
>>10957040It's not a horn sign, it's the standard issue "graceful resting position" for hands from most old art and how they train young ladies in finishing school.
>>10957071source it please, but it is a horn sign regardless, even if it were trying to be something else, that's what I mean
>>10957040hmm you’re right, you should probably pass on antique bouquet and stop wearing meta, maybe quit lolita fashion entirely… it’s the only way to be safe
>>10957179>source itJust use your eyes and Google some art????
>>10957179Watch a period drama once in a while holy shit
>>10957283I have a gf, so I watch period drama every month
>>10957023>obsessing over fatties instead of wanting to wardrobe buildEven VM does occasional plus size releases now. AP has been releasing full shirring to keep fats happy. Meta has always been kind of a fat girl brand, some of their older normal size stuff has ridiculously large measurements. This is nothing novel or worth getting your ass in a bunch over.
>>10957304i'm not going to "wardrobe build" with cuts i don't like and modern vm and ap both look like trash so what's your point? i'm tired of everything being baggy and fully shirred now just to cater to fatasses instead of being any kind of intentional design decision, it's lazy and looks sloppy. the original cuts were much cuter so i'd rather hold out for that than settle for the rerelease. looks like i struck a nerve though.
>thinking everyone who doesn’t fall into your autistic screeching fatso obsession is fatHow low IQ can you even get? Retards shouldn’t be allowed in lolita. Get it altered, buy shit that fits, or preferably, leave the fashion.
>>10957309lolumad
>>10957021Gorgeous, I'm glad to see Meta bringing back Gobelin Bouquet. Maybe I'm in the wrong spaces, but I'm surprised by the absolutely tepid response from the western comm, especially when Meta's Antique Bouquet was well-received last year. Meta themselves mentioned that Gobelin Bouquet was highly requested for re-release and Japanese Twitter had quite a few tweets talking about how cute the release is and how nice the samples were, so it's odd how quiet the western spaces are.
>>10957362Not just this, everything seems slower now? There are pieces currently on LM that would have been the target of a bidding war last year which have 1-2 bids at most, if any. Is it the recession, or are oldschoolers moving on?
Does anyone have opinions on brand petticoats?I often hear they are not necessarily worth it, but the price isn't so crazy with the yen how it is and I have a used Baby one that seems to have held up pretty well so planning to replace a MeLikesTea one that has shredded after many years of regular wear.Do you guys prefer any specific brand or have a good experience with one?
Do you seriously have to send your photo ID to strangers to buy shit on Lace Market?
>>10957881It wasn’t that way when I made my account, but that was probably over a decade ago, so I sadly can’t say what it’s like for new users. If you’re talking about giving your ID to rando sellers? No. That’s definitely not the norm. If it’s an individual asking as opposed to a verification system situation, you should obviously report them to the LM team for fraud with screencaps. Sellers should be able to get all of the information they need from your PayPal.
>>10957884It’s a verification system, they also say you can message them on FB. Either way I don’t to give out my ID to strangers or share my legal name and picture, that’s psychotic to me idk
can someone recommend a shopping service that can mark down the package value for customs?
I notice that in classic lolita, there quite a few different whites. Off-white, ivory, and beige. I know that you need to have the laces on the dress match the blouse. I want to start a classic wardrobe, but I'm not sure what color of blouses I should be getting. Ivory seems to be the most common, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>>10958032Make a collage (or Pinterest board or just folder in your computer) of the classic dresses you like the most. Dream dresses and stuff that has made you want to wear the fashion at all price points. Have fun with it and grab anything that catches your eye.When you feel satisfied look it over and see what color and material lace comes up the most in the pieces you are drawn to.The dresses you like might have a lot of white cotton lace like the solid color Baby the Stars Shine Bright brand items. Or maybe you are really into Innocent World beige poly lace. There is going to be a mix but pick whatever is calling to you and start there.Pay attention to the material.You can add on later with different styles but I promise that it feels so good when you pick one with starting out and get that one set that matches. It gives you the confidence to keep going or it did for me.If you see multiple main pieces that match the basics you are buying it is easier to build out. Maybe you can only buy one dress right now and have to build the coord, but if you see the through line of the style you like you can spot the main pieces later that will work well with what you have.From there I would take the pieces that don't it what I chose as my main theme and use whatever folder or collage system you chose to build other capsule wardrobes for fun. You can look at them next to each other and see if there is crossover too. Some brands mix lace so maybe that is how you build out.It's a slower fashions so it will take time but find what works for you and keep expanding as stuff comes up for sale. And don't be afraid to change course because you change your mind. This is a very easy fashions to resell.When I started classic I was really into the beige, but whenever I put it on it looked sad on me. My skin tone just looked blah in beige. I switched to true white and suddenly I felt so much better about my outfits. It was restricting but helpful. Good luck!
>>10958043Wow, awesome! Thank you so much for the in-depth reply. I will keep this in mind and approach it this way.I'm kind of curious. At what order did you start buying your lolita pieces? I'm thinking of starting with the small stuff, like blouses, shoes, and petticoats.
Am I crazy or has the secondhand market become more expensive? I swear Innocent World and Meta never used to go for more than retail.
>>10958064I think I bought a blouse and a skirt first, but your way is smarter I think. It's not bad to find a main piece you want and build from there but, I think learning to love the quality and interesting details of the building block pieces will help your earlier coods look nicer.A lot of people will buy cheap blouses and accessories to finish a coordinate quickly because they are excited to wear the fashion. While I think most people you meet who are actually in the fashion are going to understand that and feel the excitement there, people wearing it often look back at it later and feel embarrassed about it. You see lots of people online saying that was their ita phase or whatever. Not that big a deal because you are going to get better over time no matter what, but I think it will make you look like you are farther into it than you are.Definitely would say it felt like a huge breakthrough the first time I wore a coord with matching lace on the dress, blouse, head piece, socks and wrist cuffs. Since most brands use the same lace on lots of items it very doable even if you looking at really old or brand new pieces.
>>10958115It has. I think it's partly the depreciation of the yen, so overseas buyers are driving the prices up, and partly because new releases aren't the same style or quality, so people would rather pay more for older releases than getting a new one.
Why are western brands like this? Why do people keep buying from them? Who does this appeal to?
>>10958186>Who does this appeal to?fat redditors
>>10958186What brand is this? Are all their prints like this?
>>10958186This appeals to people who want to be edgy but have the imagination of a 13yo who just discovered that you can say "hell" around your parents without being arrested I don't know how brands like this stay afloat, complete garbage print and cut
>>10958192Spooky Sparkle Party I think. And yes, most if not all of them are pretty horrendous. I’ve thankfully never actually seen anyone wearing something from them, either online or irl. Maybe I just stick to areas with better taste, as if that’s hard.
>>10958221From what I see on lolibrary everything they make looks like something straight out of neopets. Not even just that the creatures drawn look like neopets designs, it's the kind of ugly clothing you can make the neopets themselves wear.
>>10958305I think the bats on this dress are endearingly ugly. I might even like them as stickers. The dress and print itself, however? Just bad. So many weird choices here that I don’t understand, yet I’d assume they’re charging similar prices as handmade or indie brands who actually do worthwhile pieces.
>>10957179>>10957035Saw a metalhead today doing the sign and remembered your fucking retarded comment. I think it will stay with me forever.
>>10958403don't be a meanie, I slightly researched pedosatanism and have been traumatized since
Have you ever seen a dress with this kind of bust detail before?It looks a little silly to me and I am trying to picture how this would look on a person. Love
>>10958305I actually like how garish and neopets it is I fear
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Has anyone ever notice that certain random vintage fashion fits closer to their aesthetics over modern day brands? This isn't necessarily a "I HATE MODERN BRANDS RAGGGGH" rant but I unironically have better time wearing vintage US branded Square Dancing skirts and dresses over some lolita brands... Like I know its partly because I am busty, which some brands seem to not account for, but I have worn vintage Malco Modes and I have received more compliments from that than say my Axes Femme skirts... Just curious to see if anyone else experienced this...
>>10958783>Americans respond more positively to traditional American fashionThey are on average very ignorant of where fashion originates, but subconsciously apply their xenophobia to judging your clothes. They are biased to like squaredancing country vibes, but something like axes femme skirts will seem stereotypically european fashion and they have already painted a caricature of you being snooty and rude or whatever in their head.
>>10958846>axes femme skirtsnta, but dope
Stupid request, but I cannot for the life of me find these since the internet has gone to AI hell.Remember the cute pics of a lolita and her boyfriend that were shot from like skirt hem down, she was always a sweet lolita and he was normally in some alt wear with cons and the contrast was all cute and stuff? Anyone got those saved and willing to dump them in this thread for me?
>>10959042It's from Tumblr. They're no longer together.https://www.tumblr.com/cadney/82904447083/brad-t-and-i-inspired-by-this-photo
>>10959106Fantastic, thank you!
I missed the millefeuille drop, any hope of it restocking?
Nooo you can't noooo they'll kill themselves nooooooooooo muh JK Rowling nooooooooDon't like Harry Potter, but how it makes handmaidens seethe makes me wish every brand did a collab.
>>10959766>acting like simping for a mediocre children’s book and mold infected closet moid author isn’t as embarrassing as being a troon handmaidenkek
>>10959821i don't think anyone actually cares about jkr or harry potter it's just funny to watch idiots have meltdowns over literally nothing.
>>10959767Why do brand collabs always look so cheap and ugly?
>>10959767I hope these sit in the store forever like all those ugly Harry Potter themed items that have been rotting the bag category of their shop for years. I don't even care about the trans thing. That author is racist as fuck and I did not care to be called Cho Chang in school by the bitches obsessed with this trash.
>>10959853jfc this thing is ugly as sin>that author is racist as fuckJK’s handmaidens forgot about Kingsley Shacklebolt and Cho Chang as soon as it was convenient for them to sperg out over troons. She’s also almost certainly the type of person who would perceive lolita as infantilizing women and hate it. HP adults are somehow as cringe if not more than Disney adults.
>>10959767ignoring the branding and such, this is so fugly. I've seen better harry potter themed OP's and JSK's from chinese bands. No thought went into this design, just "oh yeah whats the colors, yeah sure just put the color and a shitty patch on it." Like I get it, the theme is uniform but cmon people we could've TRIED to be more creative. It's probably going to be low quality garbage anyways, since the millennials who are still obsessed with HP will just lap it up like the dogs they are.
>>10960061It is fugly and I can’t wait to see the Neanderthal-looking westerners who try to coord a collab that looks like shein garbage with cheap witch hats and shitty costume store capes. HP fans truly love slop. If you go to lolcow you’ll see it’s even funnier. It’s full of millennial adult babies praising this release, literally top kek
I pre-ordered a series months ago and Metamorphose pushed the ship date further and further. Finally, they decide to ship it literally hours after the de mijimis restriction began. It was a large order and I owe $150.Was this on purpose? I can't believe their timing was so bad. I want to complain but I don't think it will do anything.
>>10957920Big In Japan. Never leaving them anymore
>>10960125Is it Noble Crown? They still haven't shipped my OP
>>10960125Oh fuck, I forgot that was incoming. I read the notice email again and it kinda sounds like there were QC issues? They also mention the Obon holidays as cause for the delay but I don’t think I’ve ever waited this long for a shipment from them due to a holiday. And of course *now* a judge has ruled the tariffs are illegal but it doesn’t help those of us that have shipments incoming, at least until October or whenever they’ll go to court over it. Anon, how did you get notified of the tariff fee?
>>10960172Yep, it's noble crown. >>10960178DHL sent me an email. Also, DHL is charging a total of 22% instead of 15% like they're supposed to.
>>10960183I suggest checking it again, the way it works is that there is the normal fee of whatever its taxed at and on top of that 15. So its not just 15% and the normal one is based on what category it goes under. If the normal tariff is 15% (just a random example), its basically 30% all together.Ie $100 item gets at $15 tariff from normal stuff then another $15 on top so the tariffs is 30+ whatever taxes+ handling fee. DHL should show you the normal tariff percent in the breakdown but im not sure if they are showing you the extra 15 or just assuming you know its on everything.
Hello everyone, what are some good websites, artists/models, or brands that could contain good references for different types of lolita fashion? I tend to use Pinterest to look for references but the pictures there aren't the best quality always, and I'd like to see products or art from people in the game, if that makes sense.
Hi all, kind of out of the loop. Kumyas are like 30000 yen secondhand now, no matter wherever I go like closetchild, mercari etc. I swear you could find them for like 8800 yen a couple of years ago?What happened? Is BABY not making them anymore or something?
>>10960183They sent out a 10% off coupon to anyone with a late noble crown. I wonder what I should spend it on
