When did the internet choose to stop being fun?
>>7752972>>7752879Astroturfed narrative pushed by glowies and cynical, immature people trying to sound mature. These people know the culture they push is dogshit and can't legitimize it without trying to tear down something else. >>7752113nobody will even care when you die
the internet is still funit's just that the fun people actually did gatekeep for once, so the fun is behind closed doors
>>7743736If I had to give a year I think it'd be hard but 2020 was probably the biggest rip over the past few years. Once it became apparent of the deep of the media sewage and world polarizing occurring because the ones in power couldn't control the narrative. You can say the bill that'll let you propagandize the people in 2013, gamergate and super atheist turning into modern progressives were the cracks in the damn.Once sarcastic terror became reality broke the dam... in Minecraft. But it's apparent there's 2 worlds most people live in
>>7743736I believe Google just cut off searches that lead deeper into the web. It wont pull up ypur "mom and pop" websites anymore. Its too stop chat gpt, limit its information pool. I dont have the full story, but the internet is being massivily shapped and walled off.Places like neocities may be the last bastion to make and search for non a.i sites.Side note, i hate wikifandom or whatever you call it. It curated all fan info, monopplized it. Maybe monopoly isnt a capatilistic thing, its a human thing. Like the tower of babel. It always ends up into a monolith and as a people, we are to decentralize it constantly. Sorry, i digress and going off the deep end, but i leave this thought here.
>>7755113Communism is a monopoly of its own just as corporations.No one has made the connection that this is human nature, human error. That we always end up back at the tower of babel. We all will eventually cry for a brick that falls from a tower over a man, and we will throw men off of towers to have them turn into beasts of burden.
If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7757725should be fine if it gives you the control you need and doesn't hurt
>>7757746it certainly feels more confortable with fineliners since you have to hold them at 90 degree...
>>7758004Sorry paigey im studymaxxing instead of shitposting in begCute drawing, wish that was me
>>7758022So did i , lol
>>7757473very cute kitty anon
>>7754636>calarts is cringe not because blah blah blahThe main complaint people have about the bean mouth shit is that it was overused and looked the same. Ignoring that to make you're point makes you look like a dishonest hack.
>>7754695I don't care what westoids complain about, I'm going to debunk it logically, not by appeal to consensus fallacy.
>>7754698>I don't care what westoids complain about>not by appeal to consensus fallacy.If you didn't care about the general populations consensus on things, you wouldn't be spamming an image constantly trying to address the general population's opinion that Anime looks the same. So no, you're not so big brained that you see the 'real' problem that others don't see with the CalArts style, and thus don't need to address the main issue.Just admit that you didn't have a good response, it's all good.
>>7754736Consensus doesn't determine truth lil bro. It's irrelevant when debating.Anyone with positive CR sees the problem with calarts being a crippled style, you can discuss other aspects of why it's garbage too but my refutation is arguably the strongest one and you will never address it in good faith because you are bad at debates and have an agenda to push.
>>7754483I don't know how or why lowres-kun was allowed to ruin anime discussion on a dead board but congrats, he did it and you all enabled the faggot
>When Keane draws Ariel, he begins with what he calls an “explosion of scribbles,” then highlights and subtracts lines until he finds the form that he wants.Do you visualize in your head or on the page?
I'm on the page 100%. The only time I can manipulate images in my mind is when im in the waking phase of my dreams, and those images can last the whole day. Im curious if people are able to mentally visualise and morph forms at will. It seems like lot to manage, and you'd have to be some kind of savant to imagine and translate mental imagery precisely. Also, I imagine that people who work in 3D develop that ability because they're constantly rotating, placing and sculpting form.
>>7754471I'm merely a beginner who considers himself to have stronger than average mental imagery but when I'm looking at the page and locked in it's a part of my mental landscape. There's no distinction between the thoughts and visuals in my head and the page before me. Maybe it's corny as fuck for a jumped-up doodler to make lofty claims, but the over focus on aphantasia sounds like normies reductivism to me. My emotions, my muscle memory, my connection to the subject, my materials, my weird little preferences, the outside knowledge I'm bringing in these are all equally important parts of the thought process. Hell, bring in reference and you're inviting the world into your thought process. For most people these are more important than the discussing the handful of savants who can compose a perfect image in their mind and mentally hold up a pencil to get the same measurements as they put it on a page.
>>7754478>Maybe it's corny as fuck for a jumped-up doodler to make lofty claimNah, you're experience is valid. I'd like to see through other's eyes how they process art and I know its hard to put into words, so Im relying on "corny" explanation here.I was reasoning through what you were saying, but it was an unnecessary essay. Im gonna conclude that "aphantasia" is too high level (broad/abstract) a problem to deal with. In my case, its almost certainly a lack of forward planning ability. I tend to start with a detail like a face or something and try to build around it, which leads to failure. You have to spend the time to plan the whole image first, including the background. Everything works as a whole.Cheers.
>>7754494>it was an unnecessary essay. *what I was writing was unnecessary, if that was unclear.
>>7754345Maybe use a website that allows you to see and manipulate 3d objects so you can get perspective? Use a lot of references? Honestly man a lot of artists just “cheat” to get the product or idea they want on the paper, don’t handicap yourself because you can’t draw from imagination well. No rules only tools and all that.Man I wish I could get off this website and start drawing.
Im never taking myself as reference again
>>7749938that guy, and the weirdo who goes out of his way to showcase his penis in every single pose are seared into my nightmares.
>>7749849d/ic/k? is that you?
>>7753254geg
>>7749849do a jack-o pose
>>7749849goddamn hot tho damn! haha
Post beautiful fantasy illustrations. Bonus points for interesting compositions.
this might be one of my favorites from frazetta
>>7752227Based take, one of the artists that actually got worse with age. Now he's stuck trying to be a second rate Kim Jun gi, except Terada actually understands composition.
>>7747046>>7747351he's incredible. Might try to get his artbook , I didn't know he had one.
Shinobu Tanno
>Find someone whose paintings you like and just ask them to mentor you, it's the best education you can getWhat if I don't really like the way anyone is painting today or their methods.
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>>7754726i came to this, not ashamed
>>7754685All the best artists are dead. You can still study their work and try to figure it out. The longer you keep at it the more you'll be able to understand.
>>7754734so you're saying learn necromancy first
>>7754734Ok thought so, thanks.
How does one design original, appealing characters? As a beg, I can't even draw a doodle that looks halfway decent, and I imagine I'll always be like this, no matter what I do.Sure, maybe I'll improve at the fundamentals eventually, but I still don't know how to draw something appealing. Maybe I just don't have the soul for it.
>>7749311if no soul :( you can always go with designs that are 100% always gonna work. like a little witch with a big hat
melon
I think you should leave
>>7750446Why do you want to draw if you don't have ideas you like and would like to realize? To me it's simple: there are characters and stories i like, but they are not perfect. My goal is to mix all the parts i like into something that perfectly matches my sense for appeal i.e taste
>>7752661I think he's mostly talking about appeal.
How traditionally plan, plot refraction, reflection, translucency.... Basically glassy things or AO of things? Like, in scientific precision? Something like photoreal renders of architecture or crowds...All sorts of materials
make maquettes of the thing you want to paint, james gurney style
>>7754579Holy cow. He did this?>Translucent maquette What kind of material?
>>7754597>Translucent maquetteresin, or cut bits of plastic up(bottles etc)
How many times are you going to ask this question? Did you not like the answers you got the last 6 times you asked this?
How good can you get in 1 month?
>>7754211can we see your copies?
>>7744554Holy massive cope of a paragraph. They improved faster and better than any advice on this board.
>>7744342Some drawing methods works well with some people more than others. You just gotta try and see whether it meshes well with your line of thinking or not
>>7744554>people improve in other aspects>"uhmm ackshually these people don't realize it's a trap for them in le futuuure!" Holy crabbing at its finest
>>7744554if that post is to be believed, it's a month apart. chill bruh. no shit they haven't mastered complex anatomical knowledge in a month
>>7752757I got two screens, one on cintiq and the other is for checking my colour values calibrated with spyder. the cintiq screen are darker and tinted with nano ceramic tint to cut the light radiation. my background layer are usually coloured in midtones such as grey, off whites, sepia brown, novel paper (royal sundance, finch vanilla, munken) and navy blue.
>>7752135i can lift 35kg dumbells on chest days, i must say that alone took away wrist pain from drawing
>>7752135I had this stupid finger/wrist pain for the longest time after a couple hours of drawing, it was annoying. I finally got checked and it's my uric acid acting up.
don't have shit genes lol
>>7752135For me the pain only appears when I just started drawing and goes away with time if you persevere. After that, it usually never comes back
Somehow I lose all balance I have when drawing...tracing, studying images, wht do I do? What's something more effective for Betty Edwards... Wait she don't either.
Damn she may even outlive Vilppu. Is she a vampire?
beg trap. just draw
>>7754169Man this why Loomis die early. You end up calling him dumb and twat and not ever solve a single thing but your dad's phone book numbers. Which is kinda impressive, so .. I guess that's why the Canadian brain splattered.
>>7754144what is your question?M.C Escher measured everything, everything. Try that.
>>7754247Understanding form? I,I onno man. Just trying to have fun. Or toys... Or whatever. I mean, "there's already dinklage. Why do you need anyone thr- ow wow there's , where are those mofos from, why is no one telin me do I look like a goddamn-"There's no good argument at this point... I mean I mean, it's a family friendly show. And... Well, what did the commie say again. Challenge accepted?
Man. Reflection. Refraction. Translucency. Please. Rgb1 * rgb2... And then what. So many light bounce inside the object. Infinity. Saga. Oh great.
kys nigger
>>7753542>Kys>Oreo...please insert explanation (0/0)
Bumppp
It's been a while, come play with me! Starting at half past the hour, or if the lobby fills up. https://garticphone.com/en/?c=00e363f826
>>7753577p*do
Just woke up, let's try another one, same deal. Half past the hour or when it fills up. Come draw! https://garticphone.com/en/?c=01c1e73878
itt post art that you like
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