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I'm about to start the NMA Russian Drawing course, and they mention wood panels to stretch the canvas over. Are they something that is reusable, like once my first canvas is fully used I can remove it and use the panel again, or is it supposed to be a one-canvas-per-panel thing?
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>>6144805

He wets it in the course, then stretches it on the panel and demonstrates how he does it. If OP watched more than the first 15 minutes he would know this.
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>>6144684
>Russian
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As someone who has made dozens of these blanchets or planchettes or whatever the fuck they call them I can tell you it's a massive waste of time, you will fuck up making them a lot, and it's basically just russian autism, the rest of the world moved on after bulldog clips were invented
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>>6145795
Even without clips it is a waste of time.
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>>6144684
>Drawing course
>wood panels to stretch the canvas
Canvas are generally used for painting, not drawing.

Don't bother stretching *paper* if you're just starting. This is a cool thing to do, it allows you to use watercolor to tone the paper, and it's pleasant to use a tight surface, but that's for when you're more advanced, when you start to actually do things that you could sell.

Just use drawing paper and graphite at first. Unless you're finely rendering, use big sheets of paper, they'll make your life easier. Russian do have a looser approach to rendering that your typical Western, Bargue-based atelier, so it's more suitable.

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do people actually draw like this? what the fuck
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>>6144824
Stop being retarded
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>>6145223
>people are now too retarded for the most entry-level never-picked-up-a-pencil-before /beg/ teacher just because he expects them to show a modicum of independent thought and doesn't fill his videos with Proko-style ADHD fuel and jokes every 20 seconds to keep zoomoids' fried attention spans in check

The West is dead. Bury it.
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>>6145226
pyw
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>>6144611
>only 100
>not 10 pages/day for a year like he suggested
ngmi
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>>6144600
Its essentially an overhand grip but he is doing it vertically, its very easy to go from hard line to pointy, and because you are using it to shade more than just draw a line, this grip keeps a pencic sharp longer than a norman grip, its also easier to change how much you shade an area this way compared to a writing grip.

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What do you think? Is it good for a first time
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>>6145926
>now try again, i'll be even better
This op, no jokes.
I WANT TO SEE IT.
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>>6145926
You look like a coding monkey.
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>>6145926
You look like you watch Destiny the twitch streamer
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>>6146479
uhuhuhu hu he said hard ahuhuhur
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>>6146481
It's late in the evening I'll do it tomorrow. Thank you anon

>>6146224
Thank you anon!

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Why is everyone so obsessed with loomis and realistic physics?
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>>6145779
Fucking kek
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>>6145277
Perspective made easy. Loomis' figure drawing expects you to have at least a basic understanding of perspective, see pages 45-49.
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>>6142713
Yeah, they should be obsessed with draw a box, instead.
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>>6145779
BAHAHAHA
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>>6145779

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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.

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>>6146763
belongs in /lsg/
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>>6146763
Cute.
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>>6145935
I would say just stick to whatever your composition/gesture is
your drawings are looking quite good, I think paryi will be glad with your advances

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is everyone here digital only?
i wanted to buy some dip pens for inking and was wondering what tools other people use when drawing
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i want to fuck mikus synthetic oily pussy
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>>6142211
buy 1$ Skyist pen set and see if you like it. if you like then upgrade to Tachikawa or Zebra G nib, never buy Nikko or Nikko-Tachikawa nibs.
for ink, kuretake black ink is the best quality for it's price. you can try cheap Indian ink as well.
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>>6142211
>Trad
>Not using G pen
Wtf anon...
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>>6142211
blog?
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>>6142211
when it comes to pens i don't care
i own a bucnh from 30 cent ballpoint to expensive japanese pens

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Guys, I think I've cracked the code to get engagement depending on your technical skill level. I've made a graph mapping out different emotions and their social value compared to how difficult they are to convey. Obviously, this is only for artists who want a following and maybe a career. If you're just drawing for yourself, feel free to disregard this.
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>>6144662
His ass
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>Comfort, pleasure, melancholy far behind arousal.
As someone who has seen how easy it is to arouse people even with the lowest of art skill, I can assure you that making something comfy, visually pleasant or melancholic are all far way harder than making something arousing, and they all have more significant value.
In fact, looking deeper at some others, I agree with >>6145612, this is all mere pseudo-science.
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>>6144809
>Thank you anon. This is the first version of my theory. It's mostly based on my own observations and a few papers on emotions and art. If you have any thoughts please let me know
Sure, you got me interested in studying this subject (emotions) more in-depth, so I'll share some of my thoughts.
First thing that would be great is to test whether this concept truly has merit in terms of percieved value (and attention) by other people.
First I would consider the audience I'm trying to appeal to (which site, which niche, what pool of people generally speaking).
After deciding on that I'd search for popular artists on whatever platform I choose that fit the niche I choose, and observe and note what emotions are being conveyed in their artwork and what rating/how much attention they gather subsequently on each one. After doing that with a number of artists you'll have a nice ground to build some theories on.
Regardless, the important thing in figuring out the truth of this idea initally in my opinion, is to scale down the concept - both in audience like I noted, and in variables too actually. It might be good to focus on a smaller number of emotions first.

Besides this, one thing about the skill-emotion thing is that I find subtler emotions (ones closer to neutral visually, ironically), to be harder to convey than their extremes. I think you have some sense of this too. So I'd place stuff like sadness, joy and horror lower down the skill level, and stuff like cringe, amusement, nostalgia and interest higher up the skill level.

I would enjoy to see your idea more developed and based on real data, so best of luck.
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>>6146135
>After deciding on that I'd search for popular artists on whatever platform I choose that fit the niche I choose, and observe and note what emotions are being conveyed in their artwork and what rating/how much attention they gather subsequently on each one.
The idea being of course, is that you'd compare the emotion and ratings and see whether there is indeed a correlation.

This entire process probably requires more steps and adjustments, so more scientific in a sense, but I think you might be able to extrapolate some data without putting a lot of work into it (unless of course you want to do that)
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>>6144414
Sadness must be extremely hard because I've yet to find a standalone piece of art that could truly evoke it. Arousal and awe on the other hand are plentiful on all skill levels.

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Why isn't this method more popular?
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Is this method useful when foreshortening?
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>>6146273
I would say on its own, no. But Watts for example teaches construction alongside it which is a great solution to foreshortening. (Can't find a picture of foreshortened examples but they essentially use the ellipse/sectioning method that most people use to solve limb or torso foreshortening).
If you know the 3d forms from construction then you can combine it with the gestural rhythm lines from Reilly.

Reilly method is designed to be a simplification of anatomy + gesture + block-in.
I would say the more you know about gesture, structure, anatomy the more you would modify your own version of it.
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>>6145739
$99 a month is an excellent price.
You get an incomparable video instruction by a renowed american artist, precise and useful feedback on every work delivered and the assistance of a team ready to help you reach your goals.

At Watts, they believe every student should have access to high quality art instruction. They pass down the knowledge from the great masters to you. It doesn't matter if real art education is not valued or provided in your current location. They bring that to you, to the comfort of your own home.

You can find more information at wattsatelier.com
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>>6146293
0/10, we already said to pirate it. Can't call us shills when we actively support pirating it faggot.
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>>6146293
lmao

Was it by the exact same artist?
Looks like it uses the same kind of style.

I'd love a few recommendations for books on drawing manga and anime, specifically for drawing men.
Currently I have two books I love for drawing women which are How to Draw a (Slightly) Sexy Girl and How to draw a human body part of a girl - Sexyly attractive! both of which I find super useful. The only decent one I've found for men is How to Draw a Sexy Man by Tsuyomaru but it feels kind of lacking and the proportions seem off. I'd love some recommendations if you have any! : )
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>>6144972
I study regular figure drawing bud, I want these books because anime uses different proportions and aesthetics that westoids simply cannot fathom.
Hate on anime styled work all you like, it wont change the fact that you will die penniless in obscurity B )
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>>6144921
Thanks anon for sharing these books. Im trying to improve the body of the girls. Wish you luck in your search
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>>6145818
you don’t learn “anime” from how to draw anime books. you put up a series of your preferred manga and literally try to replicate each image page for page/ character for character, while at the same time applying your knowledge of fundamentals (anatomy, perspective etc) to keep you on track. you do this until you can draw in the style of your preferred artist.
why do you retards not get this?? whenever you read these how to anime books your not learning to draw “anime”, your just learning to draw in the arbitrary style which that author had presented his teaching methods to you. I mean if you personally like it then yeah go for it, but your limiting yourselves by not utilising the literally THOUSANDS of resources you could be using, in the form of actual, serialised manga which have been approved by an actual publishing firm.
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Even a monkey can draw manga is unironically the only book you need. It's not strictly necessary but it's much more useful than any other book if your goal is to do a manga.
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>>6144997
Protip: AI has been generating your anime girls for at least 10 years already. You just didn't know it

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Let me guess, you "need" more?
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>>6145584
even if you had all that you would still find something to whine about
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>>6145630
logical fallacy
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>>6145640
He's right though, you don't need good parents or friends to draw, as for the rest there's no reason to "need". That's like saying air is needed to draw even though it's freely available and so long as you know how to breathe it's not hard to get air in your lungs, very redundant and a pathetic attempt to own anons
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>>6140370
I dont need loomis, just to study reality. You faggots are all ngmi because you obsess with this turd
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I lose most of my time to work, I may as well make use of the money I am trading it for.

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What are some good resources to learn about digital effects, what different layers modes do, filters, etc?
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>>6144562
https://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Digital-Compositing-Techniques/dp/0123706386
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>>6144613
They were made using the souls of people, at least they used to in old cultures modern ones are probably replicas but i don't recommend getting one either way, you could by chance get a real one and they're often cursed.
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>>6145893
need to cop me one of those
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>>6145952
someone edit him into a jug like op

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professor of drawing at the royal academy
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>>6145414
i wish i could hang around her instead of mongolian incels
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She seems cool.
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>>6145414
Doesn't look qualified but by the looks of her I believe she offers out of this world handjobs. Like the other anon I'd hang out with her.
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>>6145414
Better than 14% of /ic/
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art school bros...

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/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER OR /INT/ERMEDIATE IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
- Keys to drawing

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>>6146404
Are you drawing along?
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>>6146546
I was trying, but there's not enough explanation for me to draw it all. Thankfully, I found a good video about it. I find I learn better from demonstrations anyway.
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finishing last apple for homework tonight. phoned in this first apple, spent more time on the second. Not sure how to put the blue bounce light on the second apple though.
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>>6146066
These are neat, sad booba girl a cute.
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anyone have some good resources for drawing hair?

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Progress Thread
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>>6135176
Reminds me of Lefty-kun
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>>6144791
thanks for the notes.
I'll try to implement your points going forward
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>>6145906
Sex Nagatoro
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>>6145957
if that's my progress for five years without actively drawing, i wouldnt be mad at myself
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>>6135030
Lets goooo


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