>A "hobby" where you suck dick for 1 000 hours at the start and never feel an ounce of dopamine
>>7831762That's all hobbies. Even actually sucking a cock would probably be more fun, if OP is any indication.
>>7831762just play video games
>>7835000Tsugu-chan nakadashi
>>7831762Emotion issue. I've always had fun drawing no matter how good or bad I was.
>>7835115You're like that idiot on /3/ that talks about a zero-topology workflow like it's a thing that exists.
Here is my minimalist art. It is called "Day is ending". What do you think?
>>7833828You trying to be funny? Do you wanna start a discussion again about modern, more conceptualised forms of art, which solely depend on the context instead of their intrinsic artistry to have an impact on the audience? How it is inferior to traditional, well crafted forms of art?
>>7834999I can improve this art by dropping a shit in it. Shit in a urinal. Shit where you pee. It's art.
>>7836141That's indeed a bold statement
Why did it die? Skill issue? It's not like religion is poor or is it?
>>7826863>>7826866Yeah we worship trannies and niggers now. Really great stuff.
>>7828189What Godless Hellscape are you from?
>>7828243It's not Satanic.
>>7830602Yes. Why wouldn't you paint religious art?
>>7828463yes your wall of text is definitely the reason and not because there's no money in it and people are becoming less religiousYou probably think the artists who had to crank their necks upwards for weeks while painting some desert fairytale on to the ceiling of a church did it out of the goodness of their hearts and not for money
Was he a good painter?
>>7833602I didn't know Bill Clinton could paint.
all boomers have this fuzzy dull style when they paint. usually over rendered or they do some bravura bullshit to over correct. it's amazing how something can be so opaque yet so washy and hazy.
>>7833617idk why but i cant tell if thats busch or cliton. But Busch could p8nt better than most of //ic/
>>7833602did eggstein drew this? what i saw from the files was a bunch of deviantart style crap that will end up on a youtube cringe compilation, also 2 other artworks i've seen was pizzagate style crap, and 2 wooden sculptures of cowering babies hiding beneath a table
You're a better artist than you think, anon.
>>7835192Lol. No.Seeing others work makes me painfully aware of how much I suck.>>7835227This.
>>7835192I feel like every time i make something i'm really proud of I end up forgetting how to draw for like a week after and it makes me feel like some sort of fraud, I wish i could just steadily make medicore stuff that improves instead of having these peaks and valleys quality.
>>7835340Damn, same. Not that I have good stuff or something, but I am in a stage of endless slow progression and regression.Also, I am worried that I don't know how to copy my own few finished things.
>>7835192My brother keeps telling me I'm actually good and that I should charge moreBut I like having clients so I undersell myself
>>7835192Thank you anonMerry Christmas and may God bless you
how many of you draw with you phone? are you good? is anyone good?
>>7831088when I had a Note 4 I did. miss that lil nigga
>>7831088Phones are so horrible compared to my PC battle station. I hate using them for anything let alone drawing.
>>7831088did this on my phone a couple of weeks ago. It's pretty doable, but you need some kind of stylus. I used one with a rubber tip
>>7831088Have a friend who does it. But not only does she have small hands because she's a woman. But because she literally has tiny baby hands.
>>7831198>poorfagBuy a tablet and use klarna you fucks if you can't do that stick to drawing on paper until you get a job and finance a fucking tablet. Drawing on a phone sounds awful and ultimately you're wasting your time.
energy? silhouette? arrow dynamics? cohesion? composition? shape?A. For all its notes it's sure fucking lacking in it except for the feet against the belly on the More Appealing When drawingB. This one points towards cohesion as even if you black out the hair that's fucking up the silhouette it just looks fucking boring. Like stock art. By Bento Box.C. This one has a very unclear silhouette, yet t has a fuckton of energy. Way more than F does specifically, even though F gets right the sillhouettal energy????M. Smiles McBendyknockoff feels like he should have more rhythm given all theCƆCƆYET Battarang has a lot more dynaminism to him by breaking that rhythm and doing like a Earthbound Starman thing with his feetD. I guess this is another method used of getting this shit down? Pixar uses it a lot.E. Hands are really the only thing that do this bullshit, it consumes the image because the background also follows it. Without those purple circle lines it would just look weird.F. Really only the leftmost frog is pulling it off, even though her torso is way stiffer than the other ones. I guess it's clearer?G. Somehow drives a god damn stake through all of what I've thought "this bullshit" was yet works. Dynamism? Triangular dynamics like what J does?I. Lacks what J does even with its energy.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
You're not going to believe this. Gesture. While gesture dictates most of these, that thing you're describing with Jax is just the rubber hose animation style, which is once again, heavily dictated by gesture. Gesture gesture gesture. You'd know this if you actually started with gesture when grinding fundies. It's literally one of the first things you learn. Every single one of these, that directed energy you're talking about? Gesture.
>>7832274To be a pedantic asshole, that directed energy is called the line of action, but yes, this is just gestural drawing which is very popular in western animation.
>>7832274Is the trick to it the refinement of a gesture as opposed to just the surface lineart? Like getting it to flow better or follow a shape like pic related.
>>7832322BROKEN SPINE LETS GOOO
>>7832325
Do you think the new editing feature will finally kill xitter as a platform to post art?
>>7839471omg he said the thing xD
>>7838498I'm slowly starting to see that people saying to just keep posting had a little bit of truth in their words.I see it's just that I cannot accept that I can't change what corporations are becoming.I say a little bit of truth because there is still two huge problems. 1 is that I'm not good enough, 2 is that when I'm good enough nobody ever sees it outside of Reddit and Reddit has something like 0% viewer to follower transition rate for any medium.And probably 99999 smaller or bigger problems I don't see right now.
>>7835547>Jap/Korean artists talking about leavingmy feed is going to be empty now
>>7840584Damn, I didn't know you could mute shit. Thanks.
>>7840707I just wish I could block videos, then it'd just be an art feed for inspo (minus timelapses)
If you didn't make it this year don't worry. There is always another year after December
>>7835644She's dead, Jim
>>7834729Thank you OP but I wanna make it already, I've been learning art since july of 2019 and I'm still /BEG/ so I'm either talentless or not learning from the right teachers, like some I learn a lot from while others are just a waste of time.
>>7835736>not learning from the right teachersThis is the answer, if you spend time learning from Christopher Hart books you will never make it but if you learn from Loomis or Vilppu then you become great.
Wow, Waifu! You are the best!f r e e a r t f r o m m eF I N E Freeing art from my veinsF I N E, A L L Y!Free! Begone Red hummingbird! Art Madness!FINALLY STARTING THIRD: free art ! From Me! AND SECOND Free me from Art! FIRSTbecause of cause, be cautious FORIN A WORLD that worships e x c e s s, IN A CAVE that worships s u g a r r y s a c c h a r i n eIN A CULT that worships industry, sex and m e d i o c r i t y Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Thanks Son Goku
How do you Just Draw™ for fun when you are not good?>note: has to be fun
>7834198Also unattractive men have been cursed with the inability to improve in drawing notwithstanding their efforts i.e Chris Chan, 7 months no improvement schizo,etc...
>>7828040if you truly want to, you'll find a way to make money off your own art
>>7823556>picrelHoly shit let me guess some soulless gacha gook provided you with cope?
>>7818620Just doodle until I enjoy it. Reference things I like and stuff too
>>7820613I dont think that but I admit I do find it frustrating to have bad visualization skills and poor mechanical control over what I wanna make, and an overall weak imagination.
Seasons Greetings D/ic/ks! It's almost that time of year again to add to your ever growing pile that you don't use but swear you'll get around to one day. Ask questions, Leave reviews, and generally talk about anything and everything art supply related.Thread question:Did any of you ever get one of those 100+ art supply kits as a child, and what would you include if you were tasked with making an actually good version?
>>7830814I have two tubes of one of their colors (PY83 Diarylide yellow). I've done a long writeup of my opinions of Qor for these threads before but I can sum up most of them in a couple of quick bullet points:1.Qor uses a binder that actively pushes other brands of watercolor out of the way. Very useful if you have lighter colors against darker colors since they won't run into each other in a muddy way.2. Qor is somewhat erasable in the way that colored pencils are. You won't get rid of all the color but you can lighten it considerably.3. Whatever sort of pigment Golden uses for Qor, there's a lot of it but it makes it paint too opaque to the point it has a chalky sort of finish. Also looks cloudy when you scan it, I think the paint fractures light in an odd way, If you use inks I'd suggest painting first THEN inking later, because you WILL see the paint on top.Overall Qor isn't that bad, pretty okay, but I don't personally it's as great as the marketing would have you believe, especially since they're so expensive for the amount of paint you get. It's just not a good value. I only have the two tubes because they were on sale for $5 each. If you're really interested I'd say just buy the synthetic ox-gall Golden sells separately and just add that to your watercolors. You get the best of both worlds that way.
Europeans where do you buy watercolour paper?The price differences are crazy. Arches 300 g 56 x 76 cm in various countriesGermany: 66,50 € (10 sheets)Greece: 8,60 € (1 sheet)Finland: 135,00 € (10 sheets)Can you find better price than Germany?
>>7830877I heard, because their binder is clear as opposed to gum Arabic's slight yellow color, that their blues are brighter and truer than other brands. I might try their ultramarine once I run out my current one.
>>7832517that sounds like bullshit, gum arabic is about as yellow as your water after a yellow washsecondly, the strong blues are already overpowering and too blue to be used neat in 99% of compositions
Bought myself some new erasers to try for christmas. If you ever needed ones specifically for colored pencils these are really good. They smear a little bit in the beginning but if you erase in the opposite direction it comes out cleanly.
If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7839595>canned soupThe reason you are poor is that you think canned soup is cheap food.
I cheated with lace brushes. I also leaved the sketch lines for more texture.
how many hours a day should i practice drawing? i'm prebeg and i only have 2-3 spare hours/day to draw, is it over?
>>7840618obviously more time = more opportunity to practice, but quality > quantity, always. try to find a good study habit, perhaps from a living artist whose work you enjoy (if possible), and try to stick to it. take session break, maybe take longer breaks every few months (a few days, a week or so), dedicate some time to lower-effort and/or lower-stakes drawing, and try to push yourself regularly - however minimally. consider doing enough in a day so that you feel content on the whole but want to do more: if you can find that sweet spot, where you can maintain the desire to draw into the next day, and the next, it'll take you far. you don't want to do so much that you're always exhausted by the end of the day/the session.
>>7834933You're blending too early and losing the structure which makes your life much harder. Nose bridge is going too much to the side. Consider using a noise overlay to hide the digital look and make edges more forgiving. Make the background the same value as the reference before working on the subject. You can push the shadow to be darker and the midtones a little bit lighter, right now they are almost the same value. Move your head far from the screen and squint a lot, until all the subtle value shifts are gone and render that. When you are done you can stop squinting when looking at the reference and add the details you couldn't see before
Why has finger painting on tablets never taken off?
>>7835034I often find myself switching back and forth between the stylus and my index finger, depending on what I'm doing one can feel easier and more natural than the other.
>>7835034because people like to play with their anus using their fingers
>>7835139Interesting. Didn't think it was possible.There are even apps for it if you search for it. I'm not indian though so I don't own an android to try it out
>>7835034If you are going to by a tablet meant to draw with a finger wouldn’t be more useful to buy a normal IPad with a stylus. Besides, finger and mouse drawing can accelerate tendinitis and Carpel Tunnel. It’s like paying extra not to draw at all
This is literally how I've been drawing after getting back into art after covid. I haven't needed to use a pen or pencil for any of my high school or college classes, and when I do I start feeling pain in my wrist and hand after 30 minutes. I even bought a drawing tablet (for osu) and that fucks up my hand even more, none of the recommended grips work for me and now I play on mouse.I want to draw with a pen like I used to when I was kid, how the fuck do you fix this?
What causes muddy color and how to avoid them?
When you blend two colors together they become less saturated and grey-ish.Muddy colors are the result of overusing the color picker tool.
>>783462599% of what you said IS EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING CONVEYED HERE?> The two main subjects are compositionally in the center ut it feels like their environment is eating themThis was the one that made me reply. THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE! What does it look like to you, a fucking astronaut camping?!
>>7834647I'll add to this.The more opposite to eachother the two colors are on the color wheel, the faster they'll grey out.
>>7834777I could have phrased that more elegantly, I admit. What I meant by the environment eating the subjects was, that they fade into it. Their environment is drawn with equal or more detail to them, causing the characters to sink into it, instead of standing out more. I understand the intention was the astronaut being a bit overgrown with the plants - what I was trying to express was, that the character being so covered by the foliage makes him blend in with the background even more. I think there could have been a way to execute this concept better, it's not doomed by itself, but here, it just adds to the problem.
>>7834604Not seperating your lights and darks early onDo more notan studies in b&w
Why drawing on a tablet sucks so bad? It doesn't even compare to the feeling of drawing on paper. It's harder and so much less satisfying. Is there a way to fix this?
>>7833530Because it's cringe. Real artists draw with a mouse.
>>7834183*Flashbacks to all the bullying I suffered for using a mouse*
>>7833530Put a paper on top of the tablet.
>>7833642This, I've switched recently and it improves the experience and feel a lot, it's never as good as traditional, but close enough and keeps all of the advantages digital brings.
>>7833642The problem is not just the texture of it. Drawing on paper usually allows to draw almost eveything just by moving my wrists. I rarely have to draw from the shoulders. I guess I have no choice. I'm gonna have to practice some shoulder drawing.
