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How do I get over the EMBARRASSMENT of my drawings looking SHIT until I've practiced enough by drawing shit drawings?
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>>7995033
I don't know. I'm very self critical. I don't know how to honestly assess my own art. Also I don't like myself.
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Realize that nobody gives a fuck about you as much as you give a fuck about you. Grow up
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>>7995033
So You have critical eyes
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>>7997096
innately sucking isn´t a skill

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I've heard from other anons is that tracing can be good for practice like tracing down the forms and shapes of a subject and etc.

However, I don't really want to add tracing to my learning process since I don't want to spend more time. If I wanted to feel the forms of my subject. I would do some construction and a little bit of copying by line. Plus drawing by eye also helps me train my accuracy. So anons of /ic/ what am I missing out on tracing?
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>>8000774
pyw
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>>8000774
Why would they seethe because of tracing being common in the East? Only a small fraction of the mangas that are made get attention/money; and of the ones that do actually vary their proportions/faces/poses.
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>>8000774
I couldn't care less what animation gookslaves do I'm making art not learning to be a factory farm manga assistant.

You don't trace to learn, you trace to put out a product on a deadline faster because you need to take shortcuts
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>>8000721
Basically the two uses of tracing are 1) when you are a LITERAL day one turbobeg and you need to be shown that, yes, putting the correct lines in the correct places actually will produce a good looking drawing and you too are physically capable of producing a good looking drawing if you just move the pencil correctly, you're not being hindered by the quality of your tablet or your ignorance of secret techniques or anything, or 2) tracing the construction over a reference. This is useful when you just want to quickly see exactly how something is constructed without your own inaccuracies getting in the way.
Outside of that it's not very useful. Mindlessly tracing things will get you absolutely nowhere.
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Tracing is legitimately goated if you're trying to actually autistically accurately trace high level line art. You are not good enough to trace high level line art. You will improve from it.

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people post too much art evolution that's just total stagnation or a straight up devolution, these do nothing but demoralize people here, especially /beg/s
ITT lets post good art evolution that shows how fast you can improve when you actually try and enjoy the process
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>>7997626
>>7995460
Sketched Protoman the other day.
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>>7997622
dumbest schizo on the board
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>>7995879
this is just grim
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>>7997629
scribbly mess, you shouldn't be giving advice
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how do i get my art to stop looking like a 2016 web comic render?

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I-ve got a question.
According to studies, sketching or doodling helps you remember more words and ideas. The quality doesn't really matter.

My question is, should I symbol draw what I read or learn how to draw from imagination using construction?

Thanks in advance.

Link to study:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282658904_The_drawing_effect_Evidence_for_reliable_and_robust_memory_benefits_in_free_recall
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>>7998708
Do this and include words/phrases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_NuJIJ6wGY
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>>7998708
Honestly I find that people bifurcate pretty heavily into either visual thinkers or verbal thinkers.
If you weren’t already doodling naturally then you probably have a more verbal brain and drawing won’t help you much.
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>>7999608
Damn brother. Are there no hybrids out there who drawrite or writedraw?
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>>7999750
They're called mangaka and they're a lot better at drawing than writing
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>>7999750
Well, I'm trying to become one myself, but drawing is hard as shit for me and I've been hardstuck permabeg for years, so, I'm kind of proving my own point...
>>7999764 is kind of write, most really good visual artists are pretty shit at talking about their own work in conceptual/philosophical terms and are frankly pretty shit at most things that aren't drawing.

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does my art have potential
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>>7996398
post more so we have more to go off of, just 1 isn't helpful.
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>>7996398
mogs half of /ic/ sadly
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>>7996398
Artwork not worth of its own thread #367670'438734'978349'768
Post in the generals.
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does it have evil autism
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>>7996398

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How can I get as good as him?
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>>7999140
Fuck you
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>how to paint like the how to paint like me man
Thanks for the giggle OP
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>>7999140
He did, too. It was all for showbiz.
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>>7998974
its about doing what you love and like. thats real talent. do what you want.
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>>7998684
Have soul

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so no one did it, huh. youre really forcing my hand here? it'll be generic though. sometime sunday or monday then, since i've been very lazy, i need to.
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>>7999405
No one did it because OP's a spammer looking for AI fodder, you dumb nigger, he never draws his own image.
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>>7999407
who really cares and i imagine there being more than enough moaning lizzy copies for that to be a moot endevour.
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>nobody draws
>who really cares
pathetic bumpfaggotry, op
pyw
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>>7999412
>nobody draws

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Who here would pay a buck for this?
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>>7999658
I'd rather just draw it myself
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>>7999768
Beautiful stuff man. I don’t think I’ll ever go digital for drawing but it’s smooth lookin.
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>>7999658
No artist whatsoever. Maybe some charity?
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>>7999741
This is the natural result of body positivity among women and looksmaxing among men. Embrace the gay-ification of society. Love from Kazakhstan.
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>>7999787
This is nice, the back shot specially

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If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!

>Post Your Work

>STICKY:
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view
Hardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aon
Hardcore (wayback archive):
https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-l

Completed(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

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clique forced me to make a new one early, sorry guys
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>>8002411
what's funny is that the features were smaller initially , but I thought they were too small and made them bigger...
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>>8002609
Thanks, sorry, no blog I just post here and in /fig/.

>>8002610
Thanks!

>>8002627
behind that drawing you like are thousands of awful drawings, keep going.

>>8002761
I use the Shape Brush in Krita, or the Lasso Tool in other software, I think. I got the technique from X japan, and later I found out that it comes from starting with loose gestures using a washed-out watercolor. I like it because I can focus on the bigger shapes first without the distraction of line work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Sm4A17jec
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>>8002427
He assumes everyone has the same level of self loathing he has, which isn't true. A certain bit of it is basically required to get good. I started liking my stuff and I stagnated, nay, got worse right then and there.
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>>8002027
>Everything you need to do can be done with hard round.
This is largely true but it's also a ridiculous sentiment by pure digitards.
Physical and Classical artists almost never use just a hard round brush it's actually the most alien and absurd notion.
Textures are good because are is all about textures.

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I'd like to learn how to draw.
Is that possible for someone who has never learnt how to do anything well and is a NEET with 0 confidence?
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>>8000386
You should try that and see before you make another thread.
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>>8000074
yes and please draw using references drawing from imagination won't work specially at start and start learning fundamentals.
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>peek at /ic/ after a long break
>this schizo is STILL around
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>>8000074
please stop making these threads
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>>8000074
STOP FALLING FOR THIS BAIT ALREADY

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Hey I created an OC that is public domain and can be used anywhere, what do you all think?
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>>7999524
Thanks! i appreciate it a lot; especially since i spent a lot of time making her, i hope can get popular in order to help bring everyone together, mostly americans though. (:
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>>7999522
Since the character is entirely adaptable it can be used by anyone for any purpose without credit. You don't have to ask to modify someone else's work and you can edit anyone's art if you wanted too. Some people might like it, others might not.
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Watch this be some random 11 yr old's oc who doesn't know what 4chan is lmao

That being said, I'm drawing her doing a hitler salute rn
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>>7999524
OOF here comes the crazy stuff.
Shit might get interesting
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I hope you like it :)

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Artistically speaking, which gender do you find to be more aesthetically pleasing to draw/look at?

I have to say women. Men’s bodies are far too rigid imo and aren’t as beautiful, but hold artistic value nonetheless when displaying strength, protection, or more masculine traits. But with general artistry the female body is more pleasing. Thoughts?
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>>7999504
If we're talking compositions by Frazetta then it has to be The Brain to me: >>7999492
A seeming demon, and wielding a curved sword or scimitar, about to smite a man. Behind both of them, and proximate to a blood-red or purple ground, there pulsates an enormous brain: it’s livid, seething, multi-textured in its non-lobotomy, and pitted like the surface of the moon. The brain that the piece is named for. I think the piece is trying to represent the mind or inner life of a warrior.

Anyways, I like it because where most other pieces from him depict clearly "real" situations, this one seems be more metaphorical/dream-like.
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>>7999681
Also have another one.
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>>7999582
elaborate
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>>7999582
Looks fine to me. Rib cages are massive but it’s a good blend of stylization and realism. I’m interested in what in particular you see wrong
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>>7998419
I don't think you should stick to lurking, I like your longposts but I do think next time you should just post your thoughts and possibly ask for opinions/incite discussion instead of going straight to AI to talk to it about the topic.

I mean I do think AI can be of good use learning about and finding sources for all kinds of things but I and many others would rather it stay out of human discussions, even if its influence were only to be informing certain participants' opinions. People want to talk to other humans, not humans championing or (subconsciously) rephrasing AI responses and views.

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Draw this in your art style
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I am bad
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His gaze feels so oldy melancholic.
Like he's thinking about something behind you but cant actually put it into words.
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>>7997904
Contemplating upcoming Twink Death
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>>7996613
Good choice OP. Grant Morrison is pretty legendary. Plus he looks like a younger version of my brother.
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>>8000120
here's the ink base I started with if you're interested in process

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I'm working on a concept art for a school project based on a short story of mine:
There's a country where the government is completely tied to the internet. President E. transforms himself into the Internet itself. His best friend, scientist F., helps him build this system. But once it's fully operational, President E. gets a god complex, betrays F., and completely bans him from the internet. F. wakes up in a desolate wasteland. Now, he's trying to survive, researching and inventing makeshift tech to hack back into the network and get his revenge.
I need to design Scientist F. I have a rough sketch, but it feels way too simple and a bit boring right now. What kind of design ideas do you have? How can I make his design look more professional and visually interesting?
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>>8000055
The only scientists who actually wear lab coats are the ones who handle chemicals, a computer guy will wear whatever HR lets him get away with.

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Why are there very few if almost any pure webcomic artists with skill on part with full-time online illustrators like Krekkov or Smurf? How come there's very few amateur self-published online comics with art on par or better than Ramia but without the fucked out release schedule? A fantasy self-made amateur comic that regularly has art on par with pic related would get attention even if the writing isn't exactly the best
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>>7995762
Not enough imo
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I did a story for over a decade with storyboards that grew more detailed over time. A story that invented itself when I couldn't spare time to use my computer at making comics. From 2011 to 2020 it ran and I had average 3500 unique visitors per month. Covid ate it.
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>>7995762
He used to do guro, too
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>>7995559
Japan has a semi functioning healthcare and welfare system and values cultural export so their savants can actually make shit, the USA goes out of its way to starve artists and hates its people lol
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>>7995554
>why isn't there [thing I wish would exist in our reality]?
Because you aren't creating it.
Out of billions of people, that was/is your job and calling, and you turned it down and keep turning it down.
You are supposed to be making the things you want, not to wait for someone else with your same desires to do it for you, you lazy bum.
Either do the thing or give it up and die.


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