With how much we just love Ilya on this board, some of us must have some of the things he's scrubbed from the internet backed up, right?I know he had a manga that died after one issue, but at least there's reference to that online. I remember a specific music video he was part of that's fucking impossible to find, though.It was about an orange foxgirl going about her day, then she gets raped by a werewolf. Some shit happens, then she finds out that the werewolf was actually a regular guy and falls in love with him.I have such a strong memory of it, but I cannot find any reference online to it and I'm convinced there has to be more shit he's tried to get rid of.
>>7432919I don't really like his style. But I admire how he came back from the tracing controversy.
>>7432924What tracing controversy? And "how" did he came back from that?
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>>7433010Isn't that the same shit many other artists like "SamDoesArt" do?
>>7433010>literally all of those are worse than the originalswhat's the point of having a unique style if it's ugly
>>7433025kiki looks pretty fuckable 2bh
>>7432924>>7433010>using reference >tracing Proof that all of his accusers were braindead permabegs and nodraws.
>>7433052Referencing is a tool.Tracing is a tool.Copying is a tool.Prompting is a tool.
>>7433052I don't remember the exact details of the drama anymore, it's been about 10 years. But I think he criticized other people of what he was doing beforehand, which made a bunch of people mad. Even Sakimi called him out for that (or for something else, or maybe I'm mixing things up.)
>>7433065Enjoy
>>7433052It's not "referencing", it's """TRIBUTING"""
May kr0npr1nz never be forgotten
After he got accused of plagiarism, he posted this "cafe sketch", which was also plagiarized, or course.
>>7433010slightly better version
>>7433587So basically he's an /asg/ copyfag who actually made it?and that's a bad thing, why?
>>7432919>draws the same picture 10 000 timesyou just posted it anon, congratulations, you found it
>>7433579>sakimichan posting a 4chan link
>>7433576>please dont do this!Fuck off. Nobody cares.
>>7433586>Draws with a referenceI dont get it. Do people expect the only way to draw is to completely conjure them out of imagination? If that kind of fever dream is the only way to draw then everyone should just use AI or throw paint up against a wall and hopefully an anime girl would turn up after a billionth attempt.
>>7433608>defending the Carlos Mencia of illustration
nice way to derail this thread fags
>>7433608You're making the mistake of thinking there's actually a genuine complaint there. They're just bitter /begs/ that need to find reasons to feel superior to people they don't like.
>>7433581He's right though.
he was the original Stable Diffusion Pony Img2Img
>>7433778With the VERY SMALL SUPER NEGLIGIBLE difference that he did it by actually drawing and having the skills to pull it off.I fucking love how assblasted you dunning kruger crabs are over people that are so much better than you at drawing. It's hilarious.
>>7433055You are a tool
He is the proof that render>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abism>>>>>>>>>>>>>draw skill. Stop doing boxes and start painting apples right now.
>>7433010Most of these look like the intent is to heavily reference the original as a study. Did he try to present them as full originals or did he just post studies without realizing that people wouldn't understand e what they were?
>>7433797He did "grind his boxes" and learned the fundamentals beforehand though. You are completely wrong about why he's as good as he is. He doesn't polish turds, he polishes drawings that already have good fundamentals, because he knows those fundamentals.
>>7433816The second. He just thought there was no necessity for him to be pedantic about this stuff.You can read his own words on the matter here. >>7433581
>>7433790Amazing skills you can now have yourself! Merry Christmas and stroke the unapologetic drawover artists' balls as you gag on their dicks for maximum cocksucking.
>>7433880Why drawover tho? Do you have any proof of him full on tracing and doing draw-overs?The example you posted clearly shows the proportions not being 1:1. This is clearly a referenced painting. Probably a study. You would know what a study is if you were actually interested in getting as good as him, but you prefer to just use AI and pretend like it's the same thing as doing a study. You are either a pethetic dishonest coper, or down right stupid/ignorant.The pic you posted is literally this:>how assblasted you dunning kruger crabs are over people that are so much better than you at drawing
what was the other guy called? the one that just use liquify on the eyes and called it a paintingit was around the same time
>>7433926found him, irakli nadar
does this nigga draw anything ELSE??? not only does he """draw"""" only traced crap, but it all literally looks the same
>>7433968ummmm sweatie, he's an anime art director
>>7433976>sweatieIt's "sweetie"Stop writing wrong for christ sake. SWEAT has nothing to do with anything.
>>7433940Much better
>>7433986for all intensive purposes its the same thing
>>7433010>>7433587>>7433588These images always screamed of vendetta to me. Lots of artists do this exact thing and nothing about it is him implying he didn't reference. They're all based on well known images, it doesn't always need to be explained he was doing a redraw when it comes to well known images, it's just... obvious.I'm an oldfag here since 09 and I'll tell you, this mentality came from the deviantart era when any sort of referencing meant you were a plagiarist and a cheater. Using a reference and getting caught was a cardinal sin, there was so much drama surrounding it back in the day. That dumb mindset has thankfully mostly gone away but I can guarantee you anyone holding on to these images and seething over this guy definitely still has this mindset.>>7433581He was completely right and this is what young artists on twitter and instagram have been doing regularly for the past several years without issue. You are out of touch.
>>7433940they made her non woke
>>7433579No offense but sakimicha is being retarded here. Nobody owns poses.
>>7433996It boggles my mind people here defend that piece of shit.There's a huge gap between "just using reference" and "copying 99% an image someone else made".Ilya and his dickriders can call it "referencing", "tributing", or whatever he wants, they aren't convincing anyone.
>>7434125Why are you so angry?
>>7433607>he doesn't know
>>7433864>he polishes drawings that already have good fundamentals, because people who actually drew them have good fundamentals
>>7434125Oh shut up. Defending what, exactly? From the images posted it's incredibly obvious to anyone with 2 braincells it's a redraw. Do you need everything spelled out for you like a toddler? I always thought this was a ridiculous nitpick back in the day and it still is. There is nothing to "defend", it was a stupid nitpick from day 1. No one cares anymore because everyone realised chastising people for this was incredibly stupid, everyone understands the intent and knows no one is trying to claim it as completely original art. People do it all the time now and no one bats an eye. You're old and out of touch.
>>7433991kekplease, never stop trolling these oblivion crabs
>>7433968>does this nigga draw anything ELSE??? not only does he """draw"""" only traced crap, but it all literally looks the samehe tried that one timehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x-ZvXI36hR_ZsxrXnPMRqyrZMJTTF2kP?usp=drive_link
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>>7432919Kr0n was always a fucking hack that never made anything original. All he did was transform a still or photo into anime proportions and paint over it. Because the general public are dumb or don't care he became really famous while not having any technical or creative skills at all. And he made a crazy amount of money while being completely and utterly creatively bankrupt. He lacks morals, ethics, and is just plain lazy. He just wanted to create as many recognizable characters as fast as possible because people eat up fanart and he got recognition for as little effort as possible. Yes, it's clearly traced and painted over. He just used the warp tool to make the eyes bigger, the nose and mouth smaller, then over painted anime shit onto it. There was one other artist that did the same exact thing but I forget his name. Just took popular photos from Tumblr, face warped then into anime proportions and then painted over it. And again, people ate it up. I'm better than kr0npr1nz by quite a lot but yes I did get jealous that his slop was huge at the time I'm not going to lie that I wasn't jelly. It was like "How is this obvious hack getting so much attention?" He was practically shitting on the entire art community with his low effort clickbait fanart.
>>7434790He needs to go to mmg to grind more
>>7434878Lol, that's some fukkin cope.
>>7434818kek i remember when this panel used to be posted and mocked endlessly on /a/also what a generic basic bitch """"manga"""" holy fuck
>>7434125Lmao kys beg
>>7434878>He just used the warp tool to make the eyes bigger, the nose and mouth smaller, then over painted anime shit onto it.you reminded me of that artstation nigga, iklkilkeaelae or some shit
I find it hilarious how he gets shat on in every GitS thread. Wholesome fanbase.
>>7435032Why is the retard who redlined this thinking outlining it with an outdated style is valid criticism.Not only that, the take on the old style is western as fuck.
>>7435042Because GitS famously has only one artstyle that never deviates whatsoever.
>>7435042the redline is far better by actually looking like the character instead of some russian shitstain's that literally can only draw one face
>>7435072Westoid copium, sorry your shitty webcomic failed and this is how you have to project.
>>7434954Before I read the entire thread I posted that. Someone already posted a webm of the work flow that he used. Just fixing look at it and tell me it's not fucking lame, plagiarized, garbage. It's the laziest shit in the world and to do it over other people's art or a movie still as fanart is even shittier. You retards schizo about every good artist paints over photos but when one of them gets caught actually doing it you praise them. You couldn't be more of a contrarian moron. >>7435028Did you have a stroke at the end or what.
>>7435128C O P E H A R D E R
lol the troon is overheating
>>7433588His drawings are so much uglier than the reference that it makes the side-by-side embarrassing.
>>7434878holy fucking cope lmaohey buddy, pyw.yeah, yeah, I know.
>>7435128>Did you have a stroke at the end or what.no, his name was ikelikelai or ikelekai idk. various art-tubers called him out and made meme paintover vids editing photos to look like his work and adding brush strokes
>>7435072It's fucking amazing how dumb your train of thought is, since Shirow had the exact same thing going on.
>>7435028>>7435191>>7433937
>>7435193oh lol. I just scrolled right past cos of the comic pages below it
>>7435190Like you faggots couldnt be more contrarian if you tried by defending this garbage. You're either him or the most cliche /ic/ poster to ever exist.
>>7435207I mean, he's not the greatest, but he's not really worthy of being a punching bag either. You idiots have zero self-awareness if you sincerely think you're deserving of more recognition than him. Hell, deserving of anywhere close. This thread is cope because it's just a bunch of /beg/s complaining that someone's more popular than them because *gasp* they draw a lot of fan art and *gasp* have a recognizable style. How dare he.
>>7433996>>7434158>>7434300>>7435007This is not creativity, this is copying, do not protect those who steal
>>7435217Meanwhile in /asg/>Why You Should Copy Anime
>>7435207Please, show me your master works that totally aren't garbage. Put your money where your mouth is.
>>7435081>>7435215and he draws like a Westoid, are you blind or just don’t see this? Plus he parasitizes on old and famous things without which his drawings would not be so famous
>>7435224You will never be Japanese.
>>7435227I myself hate weeboos sucking japanese dick, it’s just that in place of the anime it could have been anything and the fact of redrawing would not cancel it out
>>7435233I've read this about 5 times now, and it does not parse. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
>>7432924>I don't really like his style. But I admire how he came back from the tracing controversy.He didn't come back from shit, bro uses AI now instead
>>7435621Keep lying to yourself. It feels good, right?People like you are the real pieces of shit, not him.
>>7435739seethe harder, cuckprinz
>>7435621I wouldn't put it past him that's for sure
>>7435739Have you not seen the game him and Shoji Meguro are making and the artwork they threw out for it? It's AI trash.
>>7435813That is very clearly not AI
>>7435813Jesus christ that looks generic, I don't see this game going anywhere considering Meguro was responsible for the trash PSP version P2.
To the Kuvshinov fan who said these >>7433010 are """studies""", answer this: what exactly was he studying with these?He clearly didn't learn much for someone who has done a fuckton of studies, his work still sucks years later.
>>7435813irrya's art style is literally the embodiment and the pinnacle of slop
I get a feeling those who defend him here are either AI users or plagiarists themselvesI get why a normalfag would be into him, but simping for him on an art board is a little sus
>>7435032netflix related anime shit will always have industry hack frauds, dubbing, marketing, localizing, the sickening international homelessness of it
>>7436193Not exactly a fan, but why is trashing him okay? He hasn't really done anything terrible. If you don't like his art, you can just ignore it, it's your own fault being weak af if you get triggered by his sameface anime girls.
>>7436200Board is "artwork and critique", not "i like it or not like it".Post your work.
>>7436200>He hasn't really done anything terribleHis "art" is terrible LOL
>>7436232So is yours
>SO IS YOURS HEHE FUCKING OWNED BECAUSE I WROTE THE WITTY REPLY WITH LESS WORDS R U MAD R U MAD OOOOOH I AM SOOOOO EPCI!!!!!!nigga who the fuck are these fucking bots?holy shit their replies are more bland and generic that kushinov's anime girls 3/4 heads staring blankly at the viewer
>>7436206Here, it's even a photostudy.There's a difference between critique and being a jealous crab. He's not here, he doesn't care that you don't like his art. All you're doing is trying to boost your own self-esteem and feel superior to a well known artist. But that's just a bandaid fix, you're still a worthless nobody deep down, and will continue being that way until you actually grow up and start giving yourself more criticism than you give others.
>>7436242it's ai slopcan't trick me, faggot
>NOOOOOO UR SUPPOSED TO CRITIQUE YOURSELF AND NOT OTHERS AAAAAAAAAH LET PEOPLE ENJOY THING U JELLY CRAB AAAAAAAAAAH GROW UP WAAAAH LEAVE THE FAMOUS ARTIST ALONE UR JEALUS!!!!said the absolutely mature individual who can't handle and actively trying to censor any discussion or not flattering observations about something he apparently likes.How do you not accidentally breathe wrong and choke yourself to death with that negative IQ of yours?
>>7436245Yes, I know, you can't draw well enough to recognize AI. I could've guessed that, no need to make a fool of yourself in public.>>7436246Just because I called you a weak willed crab doesn't mean I'm trying to censor anything. If you want to be a dipshit and proud of it, more power to you. Free speech goes both ways, go mald some more.
>HEHEHEH I AM SOOO EPIC I KEEP INSULTING AND PROJECTING AND INSULTING AND PROJECTING!!! ARE U MAD OMG U SOOO MAD MOM GET THE CAMERA LOOOOOK HE SO WEAK AND I CALLED HIM OUT!!!! FUUUUUCKING OWNED!!!!
>>7436251You do you man, I've got better things to do than watch you shit yourself.
>>7436250btw this is exactly how you come across >>7436251If you want some criticism, maybe you have to stop projecting your own insecurities of yourself on others, with the attempt to try and humiliate others as it is obviously through your demeaning language and unreasonable, almost schizophrenic narratives about people you know nothing about.No mature, sane or grown up person would ever say the shit you do.Also, you are not funny or witty in the slightest.A soijak is quite seriously the most fitting depiction of your behavior, since it's utterly and absolutely pathetic.Too bad you're too fucking illiterate to understand any of this.
>I INSULTED YOU AND CALLED YOU JEALOUS >ARE YOU NOT MAD? OF COURSE YOU ARE>YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF A FOOL IN PUBLIC WHILE BEING ANONYMOUS ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE... I SAY YOU DO!>DONT U FEEL ANY SHAME? HEHE CHECKMATE AND OWNED>UR SHITTING YOURSELF! WAHOO DOUBLE OWNED
This nigga talking about real life but if he ever said shit like "u r just jealous" in any real event he would quickly get laughed at and called a child by everyone in that room
>>7436242Not everything is about self esteem, self worth, and jealousy. I just like to point out scummy behaviour when I see it, and Ilya Kuvshinov is scummy as fuck.
>>7436310if that is true how do you explain his feelings? i bet u like pointing out scummy behavior because akshually YOU ARE SCUMMYfucking owned
>>7436310I don't really disagree with that, after all that's what I'm doing too.However. Laser focusing on an individual for targeted hate, regardless of how justified it actually might be, speaks to some amount of 'purpose' to the hatred. Especially if their actions have no real impact on you. I don't think you have to take many great leaps of logic to figure out that the consistent hate-threads on popular artists aren't intended for virtuous critique.Because there are a lot of scummy people, and who gets the stick and who gets ignored is important. There are plenty of people on this very board who do the exact things blamed on Ilya or whoever the Goldstein the week is. None of them get called out for it, never to this degree.If you actually have a problem with any of the things he does, there are plenty of opportunities to call out your peers, rather than make a shrine to some some fantastical bogeyman who's never going to hear what you have to say anyway. Because if all you're doing is screaming into the void it's either virtue signaling or vindication. Or you just don't realize you're circlejerking with a hate mob, which comes off about as equally bereft of self-awareness as the other two.
>there are plenty others to call out>but don't talk about the subject of the thread>omgeee gaise stop hatingclearly a chatgpt post since it is bland, lacks any intelligence, integrity and is a copypaste of senseless slop like irrya's entire art work.I am repulsed and objectively disgusted by such thing on a human level.It is an affront to existence and no human being with a soul should ever not call these parasites for the virtue signaling trannies they are.
>>7436182The moment he stopped tracing, his "skill" went down the shitter
>>7436241You could have proven him wrong by posting your art. Yet you didn't.You realize you're just proving him right, right?
>>7436363Why would i need to prove myself to an actual brain dead faggot?He would have just replied that i'm the heckin jelly crab and im seething and jelly and that he is totally 18.It's more fun mocking him for the retard he is.
>>7436368You come across as an envious bitch from the start. You say his stuff is garbage, which implies you could do better. Prove his stuff is garbage or stop wasting your time shitposting.
>WELL YOU COME OFF AS ENVIOUS BECAUSE I SAY SO>IF YOU SAY IS BAD THAT MEANS YOU MUST DO BETTER>TAKE MEEEE SERIOUSLYYYYYYYso lemme get this straightif you come into my restaurant and i serve you shit on plate, garnished with basil and lime and you tell me it tastes like shit.... guess it don't matter because you're not a chefi fucking checkmated you now, shitteryou have to kill yourself now
>>7435813>>7435032>>7434790>>7433590>>7433588>>7433587>>7433586>>7433065Uhhhhm crab much?You can't prove anything by showing examples everyone can see, ok?You actually have to prove your own worth or you're envious and jealous!I happen to like it so what you have to say about that? fucking gottem(haha i am so witty)
>>7436371Thanks for confirming my assumptions that you are not an artist (chef analogy).I was 99% sure you were just an envious begtard. Now I'm 100% sure.
ooo eem gee how can people not praise what i like like oh my heckin god all these haterzz hating and being not heckin positiveyou wish you could be the laughing stock of the whole industry further tarnishing your name with every project you artistically molest and drag into the mud for a couple bucks and no serious studio wanting to hire you due to your fraudulence.
>>7436384>LE FOOD ANALOGY HEHE WE FUCKING GOTTEM BOYStoo fucking easy anonholy shityou should really unplug yourself, npc-kun
>>7436383The only iffy one to me is >>7433590All the rest are references from well known media. Trying to imply he was trying to hide his reference/plagiarism material is completely absurd.
>copy paste image>change it up a pic>WOW ITS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THINGi dunno nigger just prompt yourself some IQ if those are your standards
>>7436387You are the one that brough up the food analogy, you absolute trolltard.You admited yourself that you don't need to be a chef (artist in your case) to be able to rate food. Which is dumb in itself because we aren't really comparing shit vs actual commestible food. You are just inflating how bad his art is, because you are envious of his success.You said it yourself. You are not an artist.
>>7436389Your logic doesn't hold water. I've proven this now time and time again.You are either larping as a dumb troll, or you are actually dumb. I can't tell.
>his successNigga you really want to be known as a cheap to hire hack?holy fuck you are even worse off than irya
>>7436391yeah yeah its ok anonyoure so heckin funny and you epic owned us hard because look how many replies you gotgrrr i am so seething and jealousi wish i could be a hack no one takes seriously
>>7436392I work as an artist for a living. My definition of success in this field is being able to sustain yourself. He is very successful.Also, I'm tired of trying to be the voice of reason while addressing somebody that is clearly a troll.Keep it up, genius.
>i am tired of being the voice of reason>OMG U JELLY CRAB JEALLY OMG U WISH U WERE THATnigger stopyou can't really be this pathetic, right?
imagine going on an anonymous board trying to gloat about """"working as an artist""" and calling other people """jealous crabs"""holy fuck that is absolutely fucking pathetic
>I WORK AS AN ARTIST AND UR JEALOUS>OMG STOP TROLLING ME I AM SO HECKING TIRED OF BEING REASONABLE>UR JUST JEALOUS AND A BEG AND U SUCK HEHE DID I OFFEND YOU? ARENT YOU PROVOKED? YOU MUST BE BECAUSE YOU KEEP REPLYING!>STOP TROLLING ME (hehe he doesn't know i am baiting him god i am so witty)
>>7436395>I work as an artist for a livingLet me guess "For a living" = getting commissions from furfags
No he gets comms from the same porn addicts who already cut their dicks off.
I get money from the government for doing nothing and all i do is have fun and draw without having to answer to anyone.I guess i won. My dick is bigger.
>>7436405>No he gets comms from the same porn addicts who already cut their dicks off.Oh so FFXIVFags, same audience desu.
>>7436406>I get money from the government for doing nothingJust make sure you stay under the $$$ threshold to keep getting those disability checks.
>>7436407Yeah, who do you think the inane sperg can be?Now watch out, the plot twist is that he actually epic trolled us all along.Just pretend you're seething or some shit maybe he'll fuck off.
>>7436408Disability bucks are shit tier. Unemployment checks is what you want.I am as close to UBI as any of the socialists faggots ever wish they'd be.
The working artist is just jealous of me neetbux.
This is exactly why porn should get banned:You just get delusional minors calling everyone jealous crabs because they think exploiting addicts and the mentally ill for financial gain is somehow something to admire.At least Kuvshinov's has the integrity of not selling out to gooners.lmao imagine being even worse than that guyholy fuck
>>7436395btw pyw so i can laugh at you
>>7436395HI. Due to the time difference, are you still here?
>>7436415>Kuvshinov's has the integrityThe bigger couldn't even credit his sources for his "study" traces, what integrity!?
>>7436395I have a question: How can I create a realistic concept graphic that looks like it's from a current castle photo but in a middle age scene.Is that even possible?
>>7436508Squares, perspective and unique usage of textures.
>>7436415>integrityFucking kek.
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>>7436394>i wish i could be a hack no one takes seriouslyno need to worry
>>7436415Didn't you just say you hadn't used /ic/ for a long while?
>>7436602as usual as soon as somebody competent posts his work, the crabs go mia kek.
>>7437045>competentLmfao
>>7437073pyw
>>7437076Posted in various threads, look for it faggot.
>>7437076Now you
>>7437087ae you retarded? you do realize we're on an anonymous imageboard, right?>>7437089this is much worse than what the other guy posted kekbtw, I'm a begtard with nothing to showyou don't need to be a chef analogy and stuff.
>>7437089wait, do you seriously have the gull to post>>7437073while you have beginner shit art like this?
>>7437116>gullNTA but it's *gall, not gullBtw... pyw.
>>7437116>while you have beginner shit art like this?You responded to the wrong anon, that isn't my work you stupid fuck. Lololol
>>7437089Fuji is that you? Cool concepts as always.>>7436602Reminds me of BBCchan, I like it.
>>7436602I'm laughing ever harder now
>>7437123that's how the posts went>>7437073>>7437076>>7437089>>7437116are you sure YOU aren't the retarded one here? if another anon larped as you, that's not my problem, dumbass.
>>7437152yet you don't have the guts to pyware you a crab or just a troll?
>>7437161And you fell for it, dumbass.Lol pyw
>>7437174>backpedalingmy fucking sides
>>7437150>Reminds me of BBCchan, I like it.That's because it is BBC Chan. The hero autist 4chan needs but doesn't deserve.
I wish I could draw as good as Ilya. All of you are infested with feminine levels of envy. Be better.
dont you all aspire to be human printer?
>>7437183>my fucking sidesPyw beg lol
>>7437207> draw as good as Ilya.Lol draw. You just do pic related like him and you're on your way. His "dawings" are all traced and painted over with the warp tool to get them into anime proportions. Then you go to filter->lens correction->custom and adjust the RGB to get the shitty effect.There is no "vendetta" against him, all the criticism is completely justified. It would be like someone using AI today and saying they completely made the image themselves. He didn't create shit but got popular for it.
>>7437166No, you are simply mentally ill
Man i wish i could just take picture, put some filters on it, anime eyes and then everyone will just be heckin jealous.omg everyone so jeally and crabbygod i wish i could be the epic professhonaru artistes working for failing studios or getting commissioned by porn addicts hnnng beats every other safe option there is hnnng i am not miserable and ur just jealous fucking carbs
>>7437305Where ever you attempted to learn english I hope you didn't pay them anything. If you did, please try to get your money back.
>HEHEH AKSHUALLY LE ENGURISHdis nyoko cant even into speaksfr fr no cap bitch made no brain nigga
>>7437300>"dawings"I just call them over painted photomanips, because that's basically what they are.
>>7437300yo why is this fag not getting called a jelly heckin envious seething crab when he's telling the truth?wtf fucking lobsters....
>>7437340It's the porn addicts and the children.
Does the seething troon have anything to say other than:>ur just jelly of senpaiiii!!!or>don't say anything bad about him, just DON'T!!!!!!
>>7437340>wtf fucking lobsters....Excuse me, we prefer to be called prawn addicts
>>7436602Actually good stuff.
No gaise bro pls stop making fun of succesful artistesstes bro its not fair its fairlike bro stop the hate ur just jealous brobro the crabs bro they cant speak english bro like i make a living as an artist bro all these crabs just spreading hate bro pls bro your just envious bro like your beg crab and seething bro i make more money than you because i work as an artist bro are you not jealous bro of course you are look at how youre seething bro bro like so many jealous crabs hating on us hard working people bro they wish they were us so much bro they are crying and shitting their pants bro these hecking shitposting trolls
>>7437089Fucking lol. You could've at least picked something better if you wanted to pretend to be me.Why would you rip off someone who's already in the thread? You just flatlined your credibility retard.
>>7437493I know you're just being a faggot but generally most people are just being fucking crabs here. Most posters are mid at most and whenever an actual pro posts the tards come out of the workings and just trolling. They won't even attack the art they just start flaming the artist. They couldn't be more obvious that they are just really buttmad beginners that need to say their favorite copes.kr0npr1nz however is legit just shitty. Same as that Nadar guy. They both got famous at the exact same time for doing the exact same thing. Just photomanipulation popular tumblr photos/movie stills into anime girls. That's it. That's all they did and tumblr ate it the fuck up. There are so many good artists out there that get zero recognition, someone like yana moskaluk with an incredibly detailed and unique style that does all creative original content and then someone like ilya comes around and takes a massive shit on the art community.
>>7437552It's exactly because of people who belong on tumblr with their forced positivity that we can't talk about shit in here.Crab has been so overused it lost all meaning and most of the time it's used by shitters to try to deflect any criticism and shut down anything they don't like.This is really the only board where a nigga can't talk about the topic without attracting some tumblr faggot trying to unironically police speech
what do you guys think of his cyberpunk mv?https://youtu.be/BnnbP7pCIvQ
>>7437582I don't complain about the hateposting because I give a shit about Ilya's feelings. Fuck him, and he's not even here anyway. Doing this shit is crabbing because you drag down all the little beglets you convinced to join the troll mob instead of actually fucking draw. If this board spent more time figuring out what they actually liked instead of malding endlessly over the shit they hate maybe 90% of you wouldn't be struggling to grasp basic fundies.
>>7437599Maybe the issue is with the one taking issue with others and what they do with their time.I know what i like by knowing what i don't like.Only consuming what you and never questioning anything only leads to mediocrity, like 99% of pornsloppers.
>>7437605Reread what you just postedAlso pyw let's see this refined taste of yours.
I know a project is going to be good if Tarantino is involved, because he actually gives a shit about what he does.Same as i know that anything irrya is involved in is going to be slopware.>>7437611Not going to waste my work on this retarded thread.Get lost, kid.
>>7437612Got it, your opinion is discarded.If you weren't spouting bullshit you could easily just mog the fuck out of me and leave it at that.
>>7437615You taking art as a competition tells more about yourself than anyone else.
>>7437520kekof course it's a bedtard pretending to know what he's talking about. it's always like this.
>>7437617Is the wittle beg embarrassed about his work?
But how is one supposed to figure out what they like if they aren't allowed to discuss what they do not like because some autistic porn tranny keeps calling them names non-stop and actively discouraging any discussion?
>"just stop talking and start liking stuff"id honestly kill myself i was a mindless consumer like thissuch cattle never manages to get out the farm
>>7433010newfags dont know the lore>>7433052>>7433816>>7433996>>7436383like these stupid fucks
>>7437713who fucking CARES nigger, where is your career?
>>7437795i work whenever i want and i fuck your mom every time my schedule frees up
>>7437803Damn, the mald on this one
>>7433996To be quite honest; i do not see how posts like these are funny bait or bait.What do you get out of being a complete and utter shit eating, slop slurping, normie?Yeah nigga people are going to reply because there ain't shit else you can do in this godforsaken shithole where everyone genuinely believes their masterminding some social engineering on their discords full of homosexuals.Wow look more bait and bait and more bait and then there is nothing but bait and no one wants to do shit anymorewow so fucking original you should kill yourself to celebrate
>>7437300Its not justified if its on /ic/. Real criticism needs names attached to it. Otherwise its just crabbing.
>>7437892if i was autistic and low IQ i'd agree with that.
>>7437617Nah, when you have strong opinions, you should back it up. Crabs LOVE bullshitting themselves. Prove that your mindset brings results, i.e. makes you anything other than mediocre, otherwise you're opinion is worthless.
>>7437814Why would any normal adult take seriously a hateful toxic person that uses homophobic slurs unironically?Of course you are spiteful towards kronprinz. You're spiteful of everyone. You are walking garbage.
>>7437965Saying nigger don't make me racist.
>>7437975Yes it does.
>>7437975Your toxic behaviour paired with that does.
>>7437965>homosexual is a homophobic slurthe absolute state
>>7437552You're talking to the anon who traced the toilet stock photo. Get a fucking clue already.
>>7438000I start the post off with 'I know you're being a faggot", what the fuck else do I need to do to clue you in that I know they are being a retarded faggot?The rest of my point is that people still actually think like that. That any criticism "is muh crabs" when crabs here really do exist and they very much just crab shit up whenever they can. But kr0n really does deserve to get shit on unlike a lot of other good artists that /ic/ shits on all the time, especially the good ones that post here.
>>7438023There are good artists that post here?
>>7432919cringe thread.I literally cannot see the controversy. He's referencing, like the old masters and all after them did. He's not crediting? Lmao who cares? Check /beg/ and /int/ thread, nobody credits. Why would they? You are free to see!Ya'll ngmi
>>7433880Seems transformative enough. What's the issue?
>>7437982>>7437983Given that your humor is practically the equivalent of gore and mutilation or porn, it don't surprise me you believe that.
>>7438522You tweaked bro? That's barely a sentence.
>>7437965>>7437982You're far away from home, ledditor
>>7438542Do something about it
>>7438522Your ability to insult others doesn't make you right by default.My point is that you aren't saying anything relevant and that's why you have to resort to personal insults instead of addressing the topic at hand.
>>7437999It is when you use it to undermine somebody's credibility.What exactly do you think he was using that word for? To make an actual point, or simply to insult somebody?How is that not homophobic if you use the word homosexual as a derogative?
>>7437965>leaving las reddit
>>7439075>I can't act like an adult, so I'll pretend 4chan edgelording is the only wayYou are mentally ill.
>>7439070>say anything>crab crab crab crab ur jealous crab schizo crab omg the heckin neggative crabs i bet ur a poopyhead irl and u have no friend and u stink haha fucking gottem r u mad crab crab crabnigger just fucking kill yourselfholy lmao
Imagine trying to talk about art and any time you don't say anything positive a hoard of trannies come out of their erp grooming discord servers to shut down anything.You should genuinely kill yourselves or get killed by a random engineer from the 3rd world.
>>7439108>deflects againokay
>>7439113Imagine trying to talk about art, and as soon as you have a different take, people start calling you a member of an imaginary trans horde that came out of an imaginary erp grooming discord server to shut down anything.you realize you sound like a Flat Earth conspiracy theorist, right?RIGHT?
Imagine reading someone not being heckin positive and calling everyone who dares wrongthink a crab schizo beg and then being surprised you get the same treatment.Honestly, do it. Go buy a rope and slit your wrists.
>discord trannies aren't realthis nigger really thinks the whole of 4chan and even plebbit don't know about their existence100% if you say discord trannies arent real, you are one.
>>7439121You never talked about art. All you did was screech about crabs and toxicity.You realize you sound completely insane?
>>7439127Imgine talking with one person, but addressing them like they are a community and like everyone else in the entire debate are exactly like that single person and have the exact same opinion, yet that's nowhere near being the case.can't you see how dishonest you look?>>7439133how the fuck do you know who you're even talking to? how do you know which replies on this ANONYMOUS image board are mine?You realize you sound completely idiotic?
>>7439131ok, it's clear I'm not talking to a troll, but just to a stupid person.I never said trannies on discord aren't real. I said you ASSUME everyone that disagrees with cronprinz being a hack is part of said tranny community.either that, or you use the tranny community "argument" just as an insult, because you don't have a better argument against our claims.which is it?
>>7439134Damn, the lack of self-awareness can almost be molested.
>>7439138>i never said it>"of an imaginary trans horde that came out of an imaginary erp grooming discord server "goddamn you're so fucking boring
>>7439142I think this guy is actually a retard. Like not even in an insulting way. Dude's got a brain dent you could fit your fist in.
>>7439144His brain has been friend by porn. All he does is projecting his schizophrenia.
>>7439139so you're sticking with the troll card.fine.>>7439142>cherry picks just a part of the postI'll ask again. Are you dishonest, or just stupid?
>>7439146I'm talking about you dumbass, case in point
>so you're a troll>hehe ur cherrypicking>no u akshuallyMentally retarded trannies like you genuinely made this board the anti-art shithole it is.Thank god porn is going to get banned this year so you'll finally join the 50%.
>>7439150Bro repeats himself like an NPC, lol.
After reading this thread i do believe you deserve all the AI spammers and crabs you get. You people are not well.
>>7439151while "you're just part of a group of tranny fanboys from discord" isn't a repeated claim in this thread?I'd love to see some honesty once in a while. Can you do it?
>>7439151>ayooo lil bro thinks hes bussing frgo back to twitter and take your pointless homosexual debates with you. Go draw a fotm slop character with a palestine flag, that'll change the world for the better
After reading this thread i do believe we should make homosexuality illegal.
OP just asked for pictures that some artist potentially deleted, and you've been having a schizo melty for days over this thread.
Blame it on the pro working artist who have all the time in the world to schizophrenically screech about imaginary crabs in every thread
>>7439163Wrong guy.>>7439164Here, you might find this useful.https://perchance.org/ai-insult-generator
>>7439175I know exactly who's at fault.
>>7439180Come on, hit me with the punchline.
>>7439184Say the line.
>>7439175You're still learning English clearly, so here's a tip:Your subject and verb have to agree on plurality.For example, you could say either "... the pro working artists who have..." or "... the pro working artist who has...".However "... the pro working artist who have..." is incorrect, as the subject is singular and the verb is plural.
>>7439187it's... le beg crabs who are jealous
>>7439190Your line, you clown.
>>7439192niggers tongue my anus?
>>7439176>Wrong guy.my bad then. with all the irony and sarcasm it's really hard to follow who's addressing who or what.
>>7439176>Bro repeats himself like an NPC, lol.
>discord tranny friendly firelmaolol
>>7439200He can admit he was wrong, so he's gmi.You're not even good at this let alone art.
>>7439195The schizophrenic uses sockpuppets to argue with himself when nobody is taking the bait, so getting confused is fair. His identities usually get mixed up at some point anyways.
>>7439204That is totally sane reasoning, Anon.You are a sane person.
>>7439200>calling the tranny an npc and talking about discord while bro is talking like this ongyou're so retarded. Just pointing that out. Two sides of the same zoomer coin
If any of you sane people had any balls you would post your actual works, with social media profiles confirming it's you instead of pretending to be someone else.No balls. No followers. Only discord homosexuality.
>>7439209You do realize two people against you already have, right? And yet you still haven't. Like a lil bitch baby coward with empty words.
>>7439209Picture related is my work and my artstation is https://www.artstation.com/kuvshinov_ilya
>>7439220omg haiiiiii>tiktok dances
>>7439220>this is their humorno wonder you can't escape this shithole
>>7439222go back there
>>7439225>namefaggotyou first niglet
>be ilya>everyone loves you>be schizonigger>everyone hates you;~;
Imagine being so horrendously incompetent at trolling that you need to samefag to get one over on someone. And just end up self-owning like a dumbass.
So now that this thread is at bump limit, which thread are you going to shit up next?
I actually wanted to talk about artthis wasn't fun, you're boring and i am even more bored than i was before.
>>7439229why are you talking to yourself?>thread at bump limitgood riddance
btw everyone who posted work in this thread actually admits to hating niggers
>>7439209In any case Ilya does have the proof you consider good enough to certify someone's sanity and gumption, so don't go acting like your problem with him isn't irrational.
>>7439236my problem with him is a complete fabrication entirely by youyou still ain't funny nigga
>>7439237And your evidentiary standard is completely insane.
>>7439241Calling me insane still won't make you transition back, tranny boy.
>>7439242I know it won't cure your delusions.
>>7439243What do the voices in your head tell you about my delusions?
>>7439245Where's the evidence that I'm trans?
>>7439247Colene, please.
>>7439248Did the voices in your head just tell you?
>>7439253Can you come up with something original?
>>7439255I only make claims that have evidence behind them.
>>7439270You make claims, yes.
>>7439277And?
>>7439071you're such a fruit lol
>>7437599People can practice, improve, and shit on Ilya Kuvshinov at the same time.
>>7439991The quality of the board is evidence to the contrary. Or if nothing else, that there's a correlation between hateful behavior, and an utter lack of skill.
>>7440006If that's the case why are you here? Reddit is that way.
>>7433052This. literly everything in that pic is referenced and not traced. literly every artist does what he described, studing and doing a master copy of another artwork. If you're not doing this, you are a shit artist.It's highly productive to do a master study. It's not nearly as productive to trace. They are not the same. >>7433586It's literly a refecrece of a real person. Again if you are'nt drawing from life and studying reality, you're a shit artist. Every artist if they're any good has 50+ sketchbooks full of this stuff in their closet. Most of it is never posted or shown. It would be one this if he's trying to hide the fact that he's refernecing, pretending it's all original. But he's not. he's transparent.Stop spreading bullshit like this because you're going to make people think this is'nt what you need to do to get good. You are setting a beg trap.
>>7439991Yes, people can practice drawing and even be good at it, and yet they can be pieces of shit at the same time. You're correct.
>>7440358You're in the wrong place. This is dunning kruger, begs and crabs central.
>>7434825the style of this whole thing is like if someone who exclusively drew bland pinups of girls tried to draw a male for the first time
