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This thread is designed to be a space for women, by women.
If you are not an XX-chromosome woman, do not post in this thread. Not looking for male opinions, male art, discussions of men/male art, etc.

Rules:
>the males must be attractive
>women must be drawn with the female-gaze in mind.
>No /femboy/trans/cuntboy/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>If you want female advice on "how do I draw x" then go to /beg/. Nobody gives a fuck.
>No male yurifags, no faceless dudes, no femboy, no shota/ loli, no futa, no guro, no derailing thread. Nothing created to appeal to the male gaze. Thank you.
>If it does not serve women, it does not belong here.
>If your own work doesn't accompany your bait, we do not care.
>If it reads like bait, don't respond. Just report.
>Do not derail thread to discuss/debate what the female gaze should or shouldn't be. We do NOT care.
>Do not engage in political discourse, or gender war/ideology slop. This is not /pol/. This is not Twitter. This thread is for art made by women.
>Our focus has always been, and always will be, supporting fellow women artists.

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>>8077853
incredibly pretty
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>>8075810
great drawing girlie, the peak of nipple is so saucy
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>>8050949
Even giga racists like King Of The Lightning Crown are more inclusive than this. Wtf is this???
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>>8077855
super cute, I love the lineart and detail on her cauldron bath set up, the soaking way is so cute. I love pin ups with lively backgrounds that make the girl feel like a real alive person
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>>8077855
love the wet cat on the bottom

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Post cursed art (You) made
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>>8080278
I would hang this (i am not that idiot who said that about lemon still lifes btw, wtf), but I am not saving it in the art inspo folder

Certified cursed
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I drew this for the perverted anon with crushing fetish, but the thread got archived... So, I think that this belongs here now.
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>>8069763
blog?
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>>8077980
To be fair, this is the “cursed art” thread.

More seriously, What could I have done better? The characters base facial proportions are kind of weird(but that’s true of the original design) and I’m not super happy w the maw shot or belly in retrospect, but I am kind of proud of the muscles on the body and the linework - I think he feels suitably muscly but kind of feminine.

Here’s another piece of art, figure drawing practice

1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

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>>8080489
Not the op
But damn excellent work - my only criticism is how the glove lines up with the hip, but otherwise I kneel
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>>8079243
Of course! Take your time. I'll be a bit busy this weekend with some personal stuff and a couple of pending deliveries here and on /h/, so I'll probably have something for you by early or mid-next week. <3

Btw, I followed you on Twitter! Your content is great! And I knew your art style looked familiar haha. I actually drew one of your OCs in a small section of a collage I made a few months ago. Maybe I'll take the opportunity to draw that OC again. Who knows~

>>8080115
She's so cute! I love how you drew her. You really captured that tsundere gremlin energy! <3 Thanks so much!

Is there any OC of yours you'd like me to draw?
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>>8080424
whoever you are, thank you. people who choose to gift others art are the real treasure.
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>>8080956
>Is there any OC of yours you'd like me to draw?
You got me last thread, I was just slow to deliver because of reasons.

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It's been forever since we've had one of these!

Theme: Heat, Summer

Rules:
>Claim a tile next to an existing tile
>Draw the tile and post it
>Make sure your tile aligns with the adjacent tiles
>Tile dimension: 200x200 pixels
>No AI

Starting on tiles F1 and A8.
Build on what others drew, be creative and have fun!
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>>8071565
bubbles are hard
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My turn to bump.
I love map threads
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Claiming E3 on the Autumn map.
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>>8075865
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>>8071963
>>8078389
Looking good so far. I hope more will join.

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examples of western and non Japanese moe
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>>8079273
middle looks like mckenna grace
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>>8080134
>aren't most cartoon characters moe?
Simpler toons don't have a developed enough artstyle to capture moe. You basically need both a literary and art style that has enough machinery so to speak.
Moe in storytelling is fundamentally realism derived and the art style has to account for all of the details that you expect to have in a real person so that you can have the complex characterization that you need (doesn't have to be 1-to-1 realism visually but needs to have enough complexity even if it might appear simple to the untrained eye on first glance).
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Imagine a world where the USSR never fell and they became the masters of moe
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>>8080134
It's a fetish for cuteness. Moe is inherently sexual or at leas its purpose is to arouse the viewer even if the content is not explicit.
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I have been using this soap brand for years just because I thought the girl in the logo is cute.

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>"What is /dbag/?"
A place where you can request or fulfill requests for brushes and other digital drawing assets regardless of the program.

>Publicly editable rentry.
https://rentry.org/dbag
Feel free to contribute brushes you have purchased or have been deleted from the CSP asset store. Do check "External links" for other drawing programs.

>CSP assets store wishlist.
https://rentry.org/Brush_Wishlist

>"How do I request brushes?"
1.) Please check the rentry first before requesting them in the thread or search the archives.
2.) If they aren't there, then you should ask the thread.
3.) Post a link of the brushes you're requesting. It will make it faster for the anons interested in purchasing them for the thread.


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>>8080781
Scratchy lines work if you're working very zoomed in, as they look best when look from afar. They give texture and makes subjects look organic.
With long strokes, make sure you have your elbow resting properly on the desk and draw steady lines using elbow and not wrist.
And, adjust the brush stabilizer/correction as much as you need.
Line weight can be post adjusted if you work with vector layers, the tool group is called "Correct line". If you prefer to work on raster layers, liquify on expand/pinch mode can do the trick at expense of destroying the quality a bit.

Have you tried the latest CSP version? It has line correction where, if you hold the stroke for a bit, it will auto-correct and become editable by nodes.

I don't have good brush recs at the moment, but https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=2095581 or https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=2123463 seem similar enough.
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>>8080055
Thanks a lot!
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>>8080781
I myself struggle with lineart and hate it so I can really sympathise with you on this one lol

I think the trick here is to have a very simple artstyle with strong shape language. Just look at what simple and short trajectory each individual line has to take!

Taking a deeper look into this, I can see that this artist builds up weight and thickness with multiple lines shaping a thicker one (and maybe even getting traces over with a thicker brush to fill gaps).

The reason why this style looks messy yet doesn't look all too scratchy is because they're not just using short or long lines. They're using a mix of both depending on what shape they're defining

The bigger a round shape gets, the more strokes have been used on getting that shape done right.

If you allow me to take a moment I can make a small rendition to help!

Another thing that is very important is your stroke speed and confidence! This artstyle seems to have bold and confident strokes, especially in the more straight ones!


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>>8080803
Hope this somehow helps explain myself better>>8080803
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>>8080791
>>8080803
Oh wow thank you both for the help! For the first I've downloaded both of those brushes and will try them in a sec, thank you! I didn't know about the correct line feature or the holding line correction, those will be so helpful. And for the second anon thank you for breaking it down! I guess I always think of my lines in terms of the finished product so when I'm in the middle of it I compare it to artists who've had time to build up weight and erase bad lines. Your art is super cute by the way! Your style is exactly the kind I'm aiming for when I get better.

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i've been stuck on this drawing for 2 years apparently. I would like to see how you might place a guy beside her, leaning against the same black line-railing as her and holding the pocky box. perspective is meant to be looking down but it's a bit wonky.
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go to /beg/ and draw your own shit, you worthless nigger
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>>8080752
please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait
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>what has your experience been with commissions?
>how much did you sell and what were your prices?
>have you sold more through twitter/bluesky/whatever or discord?
>if discord, which servers?
>does NSFW sell more than SFW?

picrel is my work
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>>8078712
i understand your argument, but have you considered that maybe it's not a good business model to sell commissions for +50% or so more than the initial listed price? an extra $20 for a $100 commission is understandable. listing a posting on vgen as "$45" when the $45 is for a sketch, but the example art displayed above the price tag is a $200 full-render with complex background is kind of annoying, and i see it a lot.
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>>8078966
That's a you problem for going on vgen, where you can't have flexible estimates on the spot and artist can't have minimal sales overall or get demoted so they try to ramp up their numbers, having low prices to better position on page even if they are not their actual prices.
I have flexible budget and I'm really happy to never deal with people like you again, I whored myself like a retard to appeal to your demographic but no more. I know charge for my time and for that I require your full idea upfront before giving a rate
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>>8077649
I would pay maybe $20 for this.
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You couldn't even pay me to share my commissions
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>>8078966
I've never had anyone complain about not setting a price range. After a certain price bracket people stop focusing on cheap and start focusing on quality. No one cares if the price is +100% the listed number. If the piece is good they'll happily pay it and tip another +50% on top of it and show up a month later for another one. If the commission is going to take me more time, I'm going to get paid more for it. If your character is really dumb and I have to spend forever figuring out how to make it look not dumb, I get paid more for it. I've had people hand me a literal book to read before I did the comm, and you'd better believe they paid more for that. And they did. The buffet thing is just unnecessarily convoluted for people who care more about the art than the price tag.

>>8077649
>what has your experience been with commissions?
Mostly fine. Honestly, as per above, I used to advertise for a super cheap sketch tier for like $40 and those were the worst. Never again. Also, always money up front, no exceptions.

>how much did you sell and what were your prices?
I make a couple thousand a month, but it varies a lot. Generally I get about $3-400 a piece. And the occasional commercial job goes for something like $10000 on an hourly rate, but I only get one a year usually and it takes up a good chunk of that year.

>have you sold more through twitter/bluesky/whatever or discord?
Twitter definitely. I have about as active a following on both, and I've gotten ONE commission on Bluesky total, and several a month on Twitter. Reddit can be okay too, but there's a lot of spam to contend with.

>does NSFW sell more than SFW?
Not really. It sells FOR more. But people wanting tabletop characters vastly outnumber people wanting porn. And they tend to be better clients in general. I feel like it used to be true that NSFW was hyperprofitable, but it's a niche that AI genuinely cratered, especially with safe shit like fanart lewds.

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I bought a sketchbook and a few pencils, I have a cheap Wacom tablet on the way as well as the Keys to Drawing book. I really want to draw. However, I am insanely scared that if I start drawing I won't get better. And then after hundreds of hours of drawing and trying to learn (fundamentals) I will still be shit.
When I look at beginners, they can already draw a bit. My level is literally zero, I have no talent, nothing. I want to draw but I am too scared.
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>>8072279
omfg just do it put on your big boy pants and do it thats all there is to it
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>>8072279
My wacom is just collecting dust
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I have an adjacent question. I tried learning to draw back in 2020 but got burned out from doing the drawabox 250 box exercise (not knowing you are supposed to apply what you are learning elsewhere alongside it) and then took about a 6 year break due to work becoming incredibly busy. Coming back in the last few months to try learning again, I have discovered I have developed a debilitating anxiety with drawing (and even trying to learn 3D modelling). I can have a drawing prompt, a reference and everything setup but I cannot get my hand to connect the drawing tool to the paper. I have, unironically, wasted 10 hours tonight trying to get anything down, even to something simple as a circle. “Just do it” is not going to help me with this. How the fuck do I deal with this?
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alphoids are turning out to be the most raped generation in human history
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>>8075998
at least that war Hitler won

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how the fuck do you paint skin tones
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>>8079883
Here, maybe this will help
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Use simple flat colors only. Don't waste the next five years learning how to render different materials.
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How is that pile of shit in the crotch area supposed to be a pubic region? Why are there such shitty artists who are actually professionals and end up producing this kind of garbage?
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>>8074410
saar he was talking about you
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>>8074410
>since why draw when you can prompt?
Prompting is boring as shit. Also no glory in comissioning an AI (I can't brag about being able to do it because who gives a shit).
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>>8068025
They could just look up refs on the internet. They can access foreign websites. They just generally choose not to. I guess relying on gaijin nudes would be shameful.
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>>8074410
>since why draw when you can prompt?
Drawing is fun, AI cuck
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>>8068886
>>8073190
>creepy
It's creepy because someone posted a doujin page? You "people" are the tourists here.

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>"drew for five years"
>he slacked off for five years and made no progress at all

is this what all of you are doing
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>>8078288
I'm pretty happy with my 5-year improvement, not pictured because image too long.
what about you now that 2026 is coming to an end?
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>>8078288
>>he slacked off for five years and made no progress at all
haha oops that is me
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>>8079807
Gee Gouf Custom! How come your designer at Zeonic lets you have TWO shields with miniguns?

Good stuff man. Where's more of the farmer?
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>>8079807
you made those manga pages at 2024? They are my absolute favorite! Reposted it so often in private chats to friends. The wheat farmer is our inside thing by now. Crazy to share the same platform with the guy who made it. I thought it just got randomly reposted here.

You have pure talent.
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>>8080550
>How come your designer at Zeonic lets you have TWO shields with miniguns?
so they can miss double the shots
>Good stuff man. Where's more of the farmer?
thank, probably never, maybe as a cameo in some other comic
>>8080557
>They are my absolute favorite! Reposted it so often in private chats to friends. The wheat farmer is our inside thing by now.
damn that's surprising! I'm glad you and your friends enjoy mu comic so much.
>You have pure talent.
*blushes*

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I am too retarded to go from left to right. Fuck I cant even draw left because I cant draw proportions most of the time and shit comes out looking like Quasimodo.
Is this shit really what I need to stop being a permabeg?
How do YOU draw a face in 3d?
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>>8075075
Finished?
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SIMON HELP US
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You can draw anime faces in 3D, anime style principally defies rules of 3 dimensional space. That is why anime based on 3D modelling always looks bad. You just learn your symbols duh. Copy till you make it
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After drawing for close to two decades I've finally uncovered the secret of Japanese anime drawing. Do you anons want me to spill the beans?
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>>8050766
>bug ripoff of Loomis with boxes
LOOMIS.

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genuinely how do I make drawing fun to do? I only picked it up as an adult so I don't have any childhood nostalgia-boosted feelings when I do it, and I'm too much of a perfectionist on myself to just draw something shitty and not care about it being bad
is there some trick? I find the act of completing art nice, and I think it's cool to see active growth in something I put time into, but I have a hard time deciding if I actually find it "fun", every time I sit down to draw it's always a mental hurdle and I don't know how to stop that, when I see some people talk about drawing they make it seem like it's the greatest thing they can participate in, but for me it's a constant despair session
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>>8073199
what is the context for this image?
>t. context enjoyer
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>>8073199
It doesn't have to be (always) fun. It's only needs to be engaging *enough* that you get started.
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>>8073199
for me it was making a habit, i'm bipolar and my psychiatrist told me i MUST have a strict routine for sleeping, waking up, eating, heck even taking a bath in the same time everyday, what i noticed is that i eventually started craving drawing after a few days bcs its what i set myself up to do in that exact timespan. being on lurasidone did help me out bcs it lift me from bipolar depression but the mood stabilizer alone wasn't enough, routine is essential. so find out about yourself and also make some strict routines for habit development
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>>8078100
this. you can get quint eye surgery to become a better artist.
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I have always been motivated by money. When I was learning how to watercolor as a teen in the 2000's I had a GaiaOnline shop that earned Gaia gold - now I'm an adult and can earn real money. It's less about fun and more about the satisfaction of successfully making a piece and receiving reward coins. Practice daily discipline - make sure you have a dedicated comfy space and time to draw (preferably during recovery from physical activity) or you'll prioritize other activities instead. Finally, have a clear goal of what you're making - if you have a commission piece or are doing prompts it's easy to know what to make, but for your own ideas it might take some initial brainstorming.

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources:

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:

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I've neglected doing 1min gestures for too long
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>>8079904
where do you get those references?
girl is cute and Im tired of drawing the most mid models
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>>8080484
just open the /ref/ thread. I'm too lazy to download the packs even, just use the covers people post
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