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I don't like the modern internet, schizos, everything being fed into AI, shitty algorithms promoting slop, porn everywhere, we could go on forever. How do I disconnect myself from all this noise while keeping myself committed to digital art?
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>>7733525
>>7733586
Just study and analyze the works of other professional artists; deepen that bag of tricks of yours. You don't have to share it.
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>>7733525
It's really hard to unplug from the internet without picking up collateral bad habits
I tried to quit the internet. Was good for a while then I started smoking again and when I tried to quit smoking I got back online. Now I have to quit the internet as well as smoking and I think I have bronchitis if it's not cancer.
I don't even care about the pain it's just that it makes life more difficult when I'm already so tired mentally and physically. I just wanna go away
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>>7733525
I feel you brother, the internet has become much much worse over the span of just 5 years, now there were unpalatabilities before that, but 2020 is when the enshittification of the internet really took a noticeable nosedive.

Unfortunately I don't really see a solution, we just gotta ride out the storm man, resist until it's over. Hang in there we're in this together, I'll see you on the other side, for now cocoon and keep working on your art, when the blizzard has finished you will know
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>>7733525
like most anons are saying: just detach yourself from social media. delete all of your accounts, breathe, start over or pick your style back up. don't post digital work. do some things on paper or a different medium. show people what you are comfortable with, and trust. word of mouth can be a powerful thing. you might see that making a comeback after the internet blows over and social media dies as a whole. it has poisoned enough people that i feel it has run its course of destruction.
t. someone who never touched the social media scene and hid since y2k.

too much stealing, shaming, bullying, etc. go out and watch nature, draw some birds or some cool shit. or take pictures and use those for references to bolster skills that aren't just copying anime or liking and sharing other people's works. good luck in your journey.
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>>7735473
What is this. It goes hard.

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This generation of artists was the first to be raised online. What did we learn?
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>>7731944
The fuck is a Jdvancerithm?
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>>7725889
if twitter gets banned from the us or it disappears as a whole, you guys need to prepare your anuses for the horde of fags tthat are gonna migrate here
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>>7735452
Why would Twitter get banned? It's owned by the great leader's fuckboy
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>>7735457
because i fucking hate it and i want it to disappear from the face of the earth in some shape or form
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>>7735452
>here
Theyd just go to Blusky, that platform is gaining traction day by day.

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pyw autists seem to genuinely think they're doing this board a favor by "calling out the crabs" rather than being obnoxious and getting in the way of any potentially interesting discussion. Sometimes I think there's only one extremely autistic guy scanning the board 24/7 for any kind of tangible opinion, deriving a genuine sense of superiority from "annihilating" all these "permabegs" peddling "bad advice" to "keep him down".
I get the impression there's a very schizophrenic worldview behind these posts. More schizo than /pol/ even.
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>>7735356
everyone gets to have brutal opinions you fucking retard you will do nothing to stop me
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>>7731482
>>7734229
You should start using g-pens and work on different line weight. I think stylistically you will lose nothing but it will make things pop more which is way better if you do action
that was the only thing about your style that bothered me
no idea how you didn't lose your enthusiasm in all these years cause nobody gives a shit if you don't do porn lol
do people read your comic?
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>>7735412
I prefer fixed width pen mainly because of pen-feel, if that make sense, when I used g-pen it always feels weirdly sluggish, but I couldn't get very consistent line quality without turning on stabilization. paper like style screen protector remedies that somewhat but I had to change my nib more often than I like.

I do lose enthusiasm, this project is in the back burner right now and my project is pornographic... even though it shares most of its characters. Although I continue to add to the world building with new characters and settings related stuff.

People don't read my comic. lol Its really boring and the story didn't made sense to anybody beside the two people that was able to sit through my szhizo rambling about my oc through the years.
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>>7731504
I cant take anything going on seriously when there is ass shots every other panel. honestly I dont know what you are expecting
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>>7735591
well, at least you tried.

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wanna draw this guy in a non realistic/anime-like artstyle but his jewfro is just downright horrendus. How to make it cool? Or should i make him have a different haircut like his fanarts usually do?
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how to deconstruct his hair anyways?
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umm…
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>long hair on men
Faggiest shit ever
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>>7735475
Why
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>>7735593
Because it turns me on, which makes it gay.

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Is there any cases of anime/semi-realism artists starting 'late' and getting genuinely good?

None of the 'only' "seriously' 'started' shit, but from nothing in their mid 20s to 30s. The only ones close I know of: -Tsutumo Nihei -@kilabo100
Who both started around 20, I think. Are ambitious late artists doomed?
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we have this exact thread every week
by the time you hit a thread where you accept that it doesn't matter, you'll be in a hospital bed
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>>7735520
Oh my god, dude. Someone asks this question every few days. Yes, there are tons--TONS--of artists who start ""late"": 30s, 40s, 50s. Drawing is just a skill. Older people learn faster because their focus and grit make up for their lack of neuroplasticity, but older people rarely try to learn new skills because they're either complacent, busy, or both.
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>>7735520
Dumb bitch
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>>7735520
All the shitty threads are about animu, you always post the same shit thread over and over again to fill the board, be more original, at least draw, you fucking asshole.
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>>7735520
you will reach retirement age before you start drawing with all these retarded threads ahahaha

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Is Berserk still an example of peak manga art nowadays? Personally, I think the art is not as impressive as it used to be.
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>>7726734
Every comic artist has some weird panels here and there. It's something normal to happen.

I also don't think that anatomy matters that much if the rest is good. Who cares if a muscle looks wrong if the composition and the visual storytelling is high quality?
>>7726788
Don't know what the hell you guys were smoking back then.
It was always great (pic related).
And it got better with time.
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>>7726532
Holy shit this looks terrible.
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>>7726880
>all lowercase
Opinion discard
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>>7726812
OP's image screams beg to me.
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>>7726758
I doubt this page look like its supposed to. Probably some shitty filter that destroy screentones, I saw that with translation resales quite a bit. Try to find same page in raw scan and compare.

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources:

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:

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some 1min thumbnail poses
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>>7735130
i feel like i should use elipses for the ribcage and pelvis instead of a deadass circle
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>>7735232
good job, where did you spend most of your time on? the face?
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>>7735237
yeah the face took about 30-40 mins

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This character is actually from last year, but I've drew this picture of her just this year. Does she, Mizuki Hyodo, transcend characterization itself and bring a new age of prosperity upon the earth, or does she suck and act like a blemish upon it?
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>>7730100
Looks like one of those guys wearing skirts I see on my college campus
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>>7730219
Coomers are based and drive society forward
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>>7730100
Not as a main character.
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>>7730219
damn that sure is alot of words for not my fucking problem
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rad

What's the appeal of fetish art? Is this art? Do people masturbate to this?
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>>7735410
The giantess ultra-thicc big tiddy dommy mommy thing is fairly self explanatory, but the wacky cartoony stuff like inflation and this style of flattening/squishing really takes some highly advanced autism to pop a boner to. I would posit that the base sensation that this fetish is derived from is the feeling of compression, plus the masochistic desire to be dominated, but again, this has gone through so many iterations of escalation and abstraction that it's become completely absurd to the uninitiated. A lot of these retard fetishes are like this, they're simply based on some sort of sensation and/or power dynamic but taken to such an extreme that they end up being silly, generally because the person in question is an autist or otherwise mentally deficient. Even Wonderbread fag, when viewed through this lens, can be rationally understood. The only fetish that I've ever seen that is truly inexplicable and defies all attempts at understanding is Tilefucker. That right there is no mere autistic sensation-chasing rabbithole, that's a 5th dimensional space alien God's-own-prototype tier sexual fetish, derived from axioms that mere mortals could not discover except by freak accident.
>>7735439
Salient point.
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>>7735410
>>7735421
its something we all have, and with art we can express it
>>7735439
name me one particular fetish thats commonly used on the internet
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>>7735502
NTA but, pregnancy related fetishism
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>>7735410
>What's the appeal of fetish art? Is this art? Do people masturbate to this?
OP is either cripplingly retarded or very bad at trying to ask for fetish art.

Either way KYS.
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Insane how pornfags always say no one ever upload porn on youtube yet people keep finding pornfags uploading shit like this and get mad when they get banned

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>>7735295
>avoid drawing hands at all costs
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Is this the thread where begs look at shitty art so they can feel better about their own shitty art?
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>>7735437
Which one of these art pieces were yours anon?
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>>7732727
Maybe. The pic is ancient; it’s def not from 2 years ago.
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>>7727589
>>7728913
>>7734662
Who the fuck writes like this? Is this board invaded by zoomers now?

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Is anyone else jugglemaxxing to improve their art gains? Working your way up to 4 balls is good to improve your concentration, memory, visualization, spatial awareness, etc.

Have anyone here done this? How did it affect your art?
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>>7732037
I know you're probably trolling, but there are people who actually believe retarded shit like this.
There is nothing in the world that will actually help you get better at drawing besides drawing.
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>>7732198
pyw
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>>7732037
you picked the wrong stock image, OP.
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they will literally do anything but draw
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I did improve my art after learning to juggle.
But I never thought about the correlation...Jesus

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Do you see human made non AI art becoming a status symbol, like how vegan food, or hand made goods like furniture or oil portraits today are symbols of wealth and status?

Like how fit retards always mention those grass feed eggs as a status symbol shit over factory produced eggs?
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>>7735324
That may be true of AI currently, but that's not inherent behavior.
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>>7735382
It's grounded on NN tech.

AI gives an average of the dataset clusters in the NN vector matrix.
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>>7735292
Yes 100%. And its only going to increase as time goes on. 99% of aspiring artists i see online are working purely digital. Normal people dont give a fuck about digital art unless its printed on a blanket or puzzle or whatever. An actual physical painting draws a huge reaction.
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>>7735292
>or oil portraits today are symbols of wealth and status?
So it already is a status symbol, by your own admission... so what exactly are you asking?
Besides that, I don't see human art going anywhere, AI is just going to become part of the process in corporate art, and even then I doubt it'll fully replace human art, except in the most sleazy low cost, cheap shit. AI is essentially the new crappy stock art.
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>>7735354
Trump blew my uncle, man. He just wanted to feed his family, man.

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Ancient artists had incredible command on dimensionality and depth, but very rare works survive. The few that do are mostly mosaics, which would definitely be of lower quality than the real deal (painted drawings on canvases).

Along with all other kinds of art, it seems classical art peaked before the Athenian golden age, climaxing for the next 3 centuries, before gradually declining and finally falling off a cliff at the start of the dark ages. Christian Art looked almost like cave doodles compared to that of the antiquities, be it painting, architecture or sculpture work. The decline in the Roman period was very mellow, though, like a slowly deflating balloon, and there were some occasional masterpieces of art like the Laocoon or the famous sculpture of Augustus, most of these coming from Greek artisans, but as a whole the art in this period doesn't seem to match the great splendor of the classical Greeks, and Roman art seemed to be mostly just incremental modifications on the Corinthian Order.

A similar phenomenon happened later in the Renaissance; artists like Raphael, Titian and Da Vinci usher an age of masters of art, then a steady decline happens, each generation of artists is worse then the next (or so people at the time fully believed).


So I'm seeing a very interesting pattern here; Art doesn't follow most of the patterns that the rest of mankind and civilization forms. Technology has a straightforward pattern; fire > wheel > wheelbarrow > carriages > trans and automobiles, each increment is an upgrade on the previous one, but for art there are periods where it reaches its zenith, and eras where it declines and hits rock bottom.

What do you think?
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>>7735123
no offense but it looks like shit
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>>7735134
>I do not like the aesthetics of modern constructions
>Must be technology's fault
baka
you've managed to enter the inverse of this
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>>7735123
>right now
'Right now' meaning about 90 years, and all to build what seems to be a gigantic termite mound.
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>>7734161
>"Young man, get on that bed and bend over."
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>>7734161
>Technology has a straightforward pattern; fire > wheel > wheelbarrow > carriages > trans and automobiles, each increment is an upgrade on the previous one
not only, as other said, it can regress, but there are also holes in the story: we still don't really understand how Egyptian pyramids were built. we have hypothesis, that's all.

or, every decade or so, we find evidence of earlier humans.

one non-mainstream hypothesis for Egyptian pyramids is that they were built before "contemporary" Egyptians, by an even older civilization. it's supported in part because some openings in a pyramid are aligned with some peculiar stars, in a position they would have had much before the time of "contemporary" Egyptians. or by the sphinx weathering, which may have been caused by rain water, implying the sphinx would have been built when there still was plenty of rain in the region.

parenthesis aside, our knowledge of the past is unreliable. zeniths followed by declined to rock bottom is a pretty common pattern: not a single civilization has escaped it so far, there's no reason to believe technology would be different.

>>7735432
> brain on modern culture
sad. funny but sad.

Post beautiful fantasy illustrations. Bonus points for interesting compositions.
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>>7735240
Bonner is too literal, over details everything to the point nothing reads. Just look at that thumbnail and compare it to the Amano ones.
Not good.
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Miura
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1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

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>>7735220
The troons are a big part of it.
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>>7734927
what made me stop posting OC on 4chan was the sloppa and botspam
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>>7734927
Schizo, pedos, board tourist only interested in hoarding free art and/or drama fagging with people who did draw on top of the low quality low effort ocs and fills being made in this general is why I left practically left ic in general. In 2025 theirs just better places to be than on 4chan.
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>>7735428
Exactly. I only post on reddit as well
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>>7734927
Why would any cool person stay here? What does this shithole offer? Answer the question in earnest.


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