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please share some male references, preferably ones that have very clear muscle definition
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>>7914600
i fucking hate i thought that was epstein's faced shopped on him for a moment
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>>7914600
He looks like he is the father of Albert Wesker
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>>7917833

Nice

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Hello /ic/!

I've obtained a prescription for (generic) Adderall and wanted to experiment on how it affected learning to draw. I opened this thread to document my progress and for everyone else's observation / amusement.

My goal with this thread is to simply take an Adderall and draw for at least a couple hours a day and post the results. Realistically I may miss some days. The hope is to keep these threads ongoing until I'm either satisfied with the progress documented, or I crash out.

Probable Questions:
>Are you actually diagnosed with ADD / ADHD?
Yes, ADD. I believe inattentive. Been diagnosed since 2003 but never treated long-term.
>How old are you?
31.
>Do you work?
Yes. Full time with a very emotionally draining job.
>Are you on the spectrum?
Undiagnosed but I'm pretty sure. High functioning if so.

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3hr study, I attempted the umbrella further but I already took the photo...

>>7920045
>It's hard to with no colour but i dont know shit about trees.
That's how finding a reference went, cherry trees take several shapes but I couldn't find any one with just pen or pencil, given that they're known for color all the tutorials were for colored pencil or marker.
I did the leaves that way cuz my thought was making it as light as possible since cherry wood is really dark.

That's 4/4 on asking people and they just went "idk about trees" lol

>It breaks up some monotony
Good to know. I was in the middle of keeping it up cuz on one hand progress isn't linear and an 'excuse' for a lackluster day doesn't add much, but on the other hand I'm trying to keep it up even on tough days and that could add to a big picture depending how long I go.

Also, cool crab.
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Gesture (mostly) from imagination then I tried a reference to figure out the anatomy but I had trouble finding something doing he legs exactly that way. Once the lines are drawn in the paper too it makes corrections hard.

Need leg practice anyway.

Quick and sloppy crab apple tree.
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Balls got too smelly trying to sit down and finish this one so I think I'll 2 day it.
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Myeaahh it's alright. I see what I could've done better.
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After attempting to reassemble the previous picture into cubes, I immediately gave up and practiced some figures with these gormless creatures.

Probably wildly inefficient to do this on an armless biped but I still have my fun.

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General dedicated to posting and discussing art of either:
1. Manmade objects, vehicles, tool, weapons etc. (of any kind and any historical era, as long as they fall in the ballpark of "technology") and fictional derivatives of such
2. Objects,vehicles, creatures etc. that aesthetically fall into the visual space of mecha/robot/artificial/cybernetics etc. regardless of level of realism.
Helpful to mention the level of realism, if any, you are taking into account in the art.
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>>7922736
How to Draw is fine to start with, although he kind of glosses over the basics, so you might want to go through something like Perspective Made Easy first (or even a few youtube videos would be fine to be honest).
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>>7903269
based stummel wiesel poster
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>>7922884
thank you. any personal recs on what youtube videos I should go with? there are a sea of them and I'd rather avoid clickbait slop

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>Never Groped a pair of tits.
>Can't feel the form.
I'm shitting and pissing and crying right now how do I draw tits.
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>>7921015
You'd probably benefit from practicing looking at the female form without letting your dick take over. I think quick sketching could be a real help. Draw nude women on a strict time limit and force yourself to focus on the figure as a whole. Your first attempts will look just as lopsided in favor of the breasts, but hopefully the constant exposure will break your habit. Eventually the appeal and mysticism for breasts will at least dissipate.
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>>7923055
>GO DO RANDOM TIMED STUDIES YOU SICK FUCK
THANKS SENPAI AN ASSIGNMENT OH BOI~
(;__;) f-franklly its not even like I'm obsessed with the breasts, its juts fun to draw but you're 100% right I'm missing out! I'll report back with my results.
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As a woman with a handful of tiddy right now... It's not that fucking hard.

If you have to go grab a fat male friend and figure it out.

The biggest thing is the bottom curve plus gravity. Like...don't look at new art. Look at OLD art to figure out tiddy becuase they didn't go gooner bait crazy back then.

What a problem to have.

all that you need is this, and pc
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>>7920125
Which version are you using? There's a recent update that fixed Windows lag
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>>7874676
You're not painting on a real canvas with real feces, you're not a real artist.
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>>7898931
>same Anon from years ago
Holy autism, get over it.
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>>7891906
There is one singular disadvantage to screenless tablets and that's the precision is a little bit frustrating for the gesture of precise line-art or drawing, which doesn't matter all that much. It more than makes up for that by being easier to set up, (light-weight, one cable) more comfortable to use, and lasting fucking forever.
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it's not about le tool but le user

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Previous thread >>7909571 #
Today's OP Banner Art from: Disorder https://dad.gallery/submissions/405191
>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have at least 14 submissions on DAD to join. Message vastian0988 on Discord for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.

Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and womp womp, you're back to zero, but just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!
Go and comment on each other's artwork; dads love attention!

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My professor and some cheerleaders
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Comm: DragonGirl OC's Treasure Hoard
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Finally working again, dunno if ill be ble to keep the streak up.
Happy about it, but its gonna fucking suck
Still have no money so im gonna be eating straight babyfood for a few days, unironically.
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>>7923662
shouldnt have wasted it on vodka
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>>7923049
>probably a muscle girl thing
Oh, I was kinda joking because I figured it would be a-
>Another (and the list is pretty long at this point) great thing about the pregnancy kink is you can work on an entirely separate genre of work and dabble in any fetish you look, then sculpt a pregnant belly on a girl
Never mind then, everyone carry on as normal. Fwiw I have zero attraction to pregnancy and don't even understand it but you clearly spend a ton of time making all these pieces and they're high quality, so good on you for doing what you love. If the people hating drew better than you they'd be attaching it to their posts
>>7923053
Damn I totally forgot about this, what the fuck was his problem (yes I know he's fundamentally cut off from humanity but he normally thinks he's doing the right thing)

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ITT: Post your work and your socials
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New acc, reach out to me if we followed each other previously

https://www.instagram.com/stan_bryk/
https://x.com/stan_bryk
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Are there any /ic/ discords you recommend? I am low /int/ and want to pop in and post art and talk to other people trying to git gud
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>>7906058
>>7906101
>>7906109
Absolutely disagree, but it's a matter of perspective I suppose.
I maintain my art separate from my income-source. This way I can make exactly the art I want to make, and explore exactly the avenues of art that are fulfilling for me without any hindrance at all from outside intervention.
My income is a completely different aspect of my life. I love it that way, and I truly believe it makes art much more enjoyable that way as well.
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>>7906058
>Animator
Pipe down little guy, you make 40k a year with no health or retirement benefits.
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>>7906101
Good taste comes before demand, and causes the demand in most cases. It's the ability to read the room and predict what people will want before they want it. You can ride the coattails of successful aesthetics, but it's never going to be as impactful as something both attractive and novel.

>>7906107
You can just draw for yourself, but if who you are is an uninspiring person, you're not doing yourself any favors either way. It's a naive kind of narcissism to believe that you innately have something meaningful to offer the world, but that naivety just makes your art sophomoric. Meaningful self-expression takes study and practice and observation, you don't just suddenly become interesting by spiritually masturbating all the time. That "learn the rules before you break them" thing goes for matters of taste as much as it does technical skills.

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Why can I draw good in paper but bad in not paper?
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The illusion...

...of control
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>>7922707
you need to get used to drawing on a tablet
go trace a few drawings and you'll be fine
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>>7922707
Screenless tablet? You just gotta get used to it. Screen tablet? You need help.
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>>7922707
Perhaps you are a fool.

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Maybe fanart is not the way for a professional career after all..
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>>7922958
>go ghost on social media
>make a bunch of art
> you now can post a piece daily while having a normal schedule of living life and making art.


Just bulk it.
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>>7922964
>go ghost on social media
Do this and only this.
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>>7922879
only if you are good, lmao
convention artists are still winning
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>>7922945
It's all self inflicted bullshit based on rumour like those guys who think you can't say kill or rape nor use certain emojis despite having zero evidence it works on Tiktok let alone on other platforms.

For each of those guys there's two krekkovs who barely post any drawings, draw whatever the fuck they want, and are still very popular. Maybe you actually owe the platform two posts a day but you can just talk about other stuff, you don't have to draw half a naked woman every single time.
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>>7922982
Shut up, faggot

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you dont need anything else
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>>7917753
Only tried Loomis and Bridgeman, and let me just say that Loomis also sucks fucking balls as an instructional book author. Bridgeman is pretty good though.
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KEK it's hilarious how so many of you are missing the point: JUST FUCKING DRAW.
>anon dont buy cheap materials, buy better quality cheap materials
Ok anon, while you're on your 10th strathmore brown mixed media sketchbook where all of them have only 2 pages filled in, the homeless anon with a stick of charcoal is on his 1,000th paper bag on his way to Kim Jung Gi tier hands.
JUST.
FUCKING.
DRAW.

And if you're think of responding to my post, I want to you stop right there, and go pick up anything you can draw with and any junk piece of paper, be it a fucking napkin, envelope, or your eviction notice and fucking DRAAAWWWWW.
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>>7905233
Trvke
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>>7921635
You're right. But I'm still going to reply to you. Because I just got home and I can't draw after driving all day.

>>7913380
I'm doing it right now. They have you drawing full human figures before you probably even have the tools or experience to do that. There are some serious prerequisites to this book. At the very least you should have some basic experience drawing figures.
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>>7921635
>mfw i started to draw and its not looking that bad
today was a good day. it wasnt you, it was in another thread, but still. keep telling these lazy bastards what they need to hear. and man, senile biden was a reaction image goldmine.

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Who is the most influential artist to post on /ic/? My vote goes to Wamu, lots of NSFW artists copy his shading style.
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porn isnt influental, its infectious. a lot more menacing and destructive, like a diesease. now if you want to talk best artists on /ic/, a lot of them you can find on /fig/. actually helpful and inspiring. thats proper influence.
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>>7922028
fanartists have no vision, they do it for clout.
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>>7922647
you don't either, anon. If this >>7922646 is what you only draw, you're no different from fanartists. Typically, the final end goal/stage for artist like that would just be drawing some some celeb drenched in some oil or some shit like that.
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>>7922662
>Typically, the final end goal/stage for artist like that would just be drawing some some celeb drenched in some oil or some shit like that.
shows how much you know by just assuming stupid shit. and lets even say that is the endstage, a professional celebrity portrait starts at 5k dollary doos and only goes up from there. and the sky is the limit, presidential and other important portraits can go up to 100k and much more depending on the status. Obamas most recent (and shitty) portaits of him and his gorilla armed wife were comissioned for 500.000 (250k each).
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>>7922890
>post more visionless shit
>mentions money from celebs and presidents portraits like it negates the clout point in the first place
Yep, no different from fan artist after all.

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Did i lose soul?
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>>7915287
me too, brownoid mcmelaninbrain
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Stop being pol schizos for in my thread
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What do you think of this one?
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>>7917854
that collar won't lock. the pin fails to fasten the loose end (which is constantly trying to slip away due to forces) against the buckle's metallic part. with this design the collar can freely unravel and fall right off.

in other words, the buckle should be designed such that the pin points AWAY from the loose end, not towards it or it does nothing to keep it in place.

also it looks like the buckle might be attached to the hanging end (really the end that is meant to go through the buckle) and that loose hanging bit is an extra third end that protrudes out of nowhere. go study a collar in detail, or a belt, they work the same way.
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>>7922472
I unironically put less then 0 thought into that collar, literally doodles it up and called it a day

Is there an equivalent for Bargue for pen and ink?
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>>7920658
for having practiced both extensively, I can assure you they are. there are common aspects, but you simply can't handle the (pure black) ink as Julien handle graphite.

compare OP with this

even more so if you consider the stylistic differences between julien and booth.
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>>7921347
You're missing the point.

OP asked for something comparative to Bargue for pen and ink, Julien's course emphasizes hatching because it's a precursor to modeling and hatching is the premier technique of pen and ink so that's why I found it a suitable suggestion. Maybe there's an actual pen and ink course in the same vein as Bargue but I don't know it.

>you simply can't handle the (pure black) ink as Julien handle graphite
Disagree. I assume you are talking about the binary aspect of ink compared to the range graphite provides. In ink, value is modulated based on the proportion of white-to-black and there are many ways in achieving that.
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>>7921347
>>7921361
Wrong.
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OP here, thanks for the suggestions. I've done some Julien plates in pencil before but I find them harder than Bargue so it'll probably be better just to do Bargue in pen and ink.
I'm just looking for a pen and ink artist with a good body of work that has easier and progressively harder pieces to ease me into the medium like how Bargue does
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>>7921361
> I assume you are talking about the binary aspect of ink
setting the stylistic differences aside, that's indeed the main issue I had in mind.

one _can_ achieve the value control with ink of course, but it's not as simple as copying the model, as is in essence the case for Bargue's.

this extra interpretative step may feel easy if you've got a bit of inking practice already, but I don't think it's as easy for beginners.

thinking about it, old engraving "tutorials" would probably be a better fit than Julien, as far as hatching is concerned

>>7921505
strictly speaking, for ink, there's no such things to my knowledge. Dunn & Guptill however will help you get the basics.

that being said, we do have that kind of content for engravings. the Lumen Picturae for example. you may find others on https://lalaragimov.blogspot.com/2013/11/treatises.html


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I think I finally managed to pull off the "anime girl with a really big forehead" look. Thoughts? Critique will be appreciated :>
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>>7921427
I'm wondering if the OP....hmm, nevermind.
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Are you trying to punch through the paper? It's alright. The eyes, especially the (frame) right eye, are fucked up. The hair isn't very good either - lacks shape, too many lines. Shoulders are weird too. Keep drawing.
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Ok guys I tried to check why the pencil was digging so much into the paper and found out it's because it's really thin. I draw with a mechanical pencil. I need to be unusually gentle in order to not dig into the paper.
>>7921429
?
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>>7921429
he needs to be stopped
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>>7922525
Yeah, that's wrong. I use a 0.5mm mech pencil all the time, there's no need to press so hard. Get softer leads if your lines aren't coming out dark enough(B or 2B).

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Why do you use digital? Why not do it traditional? I don't get why digital is so popular amongst young artists. It's nice and convenient, sure, but isn't it much more fun to draw and paint with real colors and real pencils?
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>>7921843
I'm struggling financially and have little time, when I draw on my tablet with my stylus it's easy to be in the living room with the missus and just draw for a bit while we watch something and talk, and I can easily put it away, also don't need to spend money on supplies, and I have access to a ton of colors and brushes without needing more space than my tablet and stylus.

It's just 10x easier and more convenient for me.
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>>7921843
Well, obviously traditional is much more enjoyable. But you can't port it directly online and I want to show my stuff to others, so.
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>>7921843
>I barely have space in my home for pencil and papers
>I don't like having to wait the paint to dry, but also I am worried for the fumes

>>7922098
>pic
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>7921843
Try painting digital vs traditional. That alone changes things by a galactic scale of opportunities, learning speed and forgiveness.
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>>7921843
I hate everything about pencils. The way they feel is awful for me, and they are a huge pain to learn how to use if you didn't get a good handle on them as a kid. I do actually like painting, but it'a really inconvenient.


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