>>7437959
Okay so look, this is like those people using those services to purge your personal information from off the internet. Why would you go to a 3rd party and say "hey, mister, I want you to take everything I have off the internet. You see this account and this account and aaaaall these accounts here? Yep, I'm confirming all that data belongs to me!".

Don't you think that same very company is selling data about you that confirms that all the data you willingly confirmed is indeed you is just as valuable? It would be better to just awol the accounts and let the websites that have security personnel do their fucking jobs and remove accounts that are hacked; they all have tools that can see when an account is hacked in lagos, nigeria by the way.

So you using a glaze service...how are they making money? How does this benefit them? Are they really doing it out of the kindness of their hearts? Or are they also using the research to see what kinds of people are worried about technology raping their art? That also counts to their research, yes? They're collecting data on you on who exactly is afraid of a computer stealing their style of artwork. They are training off of you--and you're willingly a test subject. Oh sure, they can use anyone on the internet--that's not the same. They want to see who exactly is afraid, that's valueable data.

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>>7437953
No. I just beat them to the punch and just use AI

>>7437953
Protect what?
People here don't post their works anyway, if they draw at all.

I put my signature on the drawing and my style is very recognizable. It seems you need to edit the signature out for ai to not copy it and even then you'd recognize the artist and I get free exposure from ai spam accounts with 5 followers. There are style Loras of my art but nobody has created any for-profit content with it yet.

>>7437997
>I wonder why artists don't want to be associated with a website where you can post CP, scat, gore and racism.

>>7437953
No I just don't publish anything.
I only share things with friends and I don't plan on making money.

>>7437964
Yup it's kinda like antiviri for protection serving as rootkit backdoors themselves when their software has an exploit.

>>7437984
OH POO POO IN THE LOO
BLOODY BENCHOD BASTARD

>>7438009
Moot point seeing as how artists post plenty on Reddit which has a worse reputation for all those things and more. The real answer is anonymity stifles meaningful communication because nobody can engage in good faith, no point posting anything here because everyone is butthurt by default and just wants a chance to tear as many other people down. At least on sites like xitter there's accountability for bad faith trolls, generally.

>>7438021
what do you mean? you win by posting work. that's just an excuse you made up in your head.

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>>7437953
Does that shit even work?
Nobody actually follows me for my art quality so I don't have to worry about getting AI'd

>>7438030
Lmao there is no "winning" without a scoreboard. Sharing work with anonymous retards is pointless and everyone knows it, because everyone just wants a chance to degrade and attack everyone else. "Pyw" is the cry of a wounded animal that was cornered and needs an out. Go somewhere and sign your name to it if you wanna be taken seriously.

>>7438034
if it didn't, that ceo or whatever wouldn't cry about it being malicious and how it should be illegal

>>7437997
>>7438009
People post their work on this board
People dont care about being associated with this site
You guys dont draw.

>>7438036
>is the cry of a wounded animal

what a keen detail. this seems like projection. only a wounded animal is afraid of posting their work here. I mean
>taken seriously

Who said anything about taking things seriously around here? Your bones are so broken you are leaking out your projection. You want to be taken seriously?

>>7438044
>doesn't post work

>>7438034
It works for the company that provides the service.

>>7438054
Pyw

>>7437953
I support anything that makes life harder for amoral techbro billionaires and AI scammers. It's too bad the Glaze people are insufferable NPCs who backed Kamala Harris* and support "fact checking," i.e. censorship of truthful information and the spreading of regime-approved disinformation. Why are people like this?

*Not saying they should back Trump either. He has his nose up Israel's asshole like all the rest. All our "leaders" in the US are pathetic, cowardly, treasonous cuckolds for Zionist Jews.

>those complaining about pyw never post their work.
Makes you think
>>7438082
Based.

>>7438078
you know where to find me

>>7438034
it works, but it sounds like itll be a constant back and forth between trainers breaking protection and protection being updated. https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/update21.html

Doesn't this shit take multiple hours to complete one image? Completely ruining the image quality in the process?

>>7438087
>doesn't post work
Rmyt

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>>7438073
All you had to do was ask.

>>7438089
takes about 40 minutes on default settings for me. doesnt ruin the image quality, though it depends on style. if you have a very clean artoon/anime-looking style the glazing effects are more noticeable.

>>7438092
But what am I supposed to do now?

>>7438098
You can either double down like a retard and call them a /beg/ to win the argument, or take the L.

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>>7437953
AI art will learn nothing from my art, if anything it will get worse.

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>>7438034
>Does that shit even work?
Yes, it does work, but it's not that effective because it only poison a small percentage of the total dataset, you need something more robust like a gazillion of "infected" pictures to ruin AI art for real.

>>7438127
poisioning the dataset seems like a pipe dream desu, but the protection against training - that part hopefully works.

>>7437953
>do you guys use glaze/nightshade to protect against ai training?
Nope.
>if not, why not?
I'm under the impression that it's complicated to use on linux and/or requires better hardware to run than my 20 years old laptop.

>>7438092
I dunno, you can P your W, but Im skeptical on whether or not you actually draw.

Back to the point, I dont understand people's concerns on "being associated with 4chan". This place is no more than a den of basement dwelling nerds being autistic at each other. If people come at me asking me what Im doing on 4chan I'll tell them the truth: I post drawings and talk about vidya.

>>7438175
meant for >>7438098, my bad

>>7437953
does Glaze Nightshade really does a noticeable change? They are technically glazing new images only around 2022 and for the future. The AI models are running on Image data ripped from most sites spanning from 2005 up until 2020.

It's over

snakeoil for larpers

>>7438185
glaze would ideally protect an artist's individual style from being mimicked by ai. ai art in general isn't going to be beaten by this stuff though.

Ai can't steal from you when everyone recognizes the artstyle as yours. Everyone is aware how ai works. Credit doesn't go to the prompter but the artist they take from. Most ai fags tell you what artist they steal from. They aren't trying to fool you. Unless of course your art is incredibly generic with zero personality.

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>>7437953
AI can't do anything like >>7437017 or picrel. Even "generic anime girl standing pose" is liable to have six fingers. Draw with intention and you are winning. AI BTFO.

These programs just upload your work directly to the major ai producers, the program does nothing and you're paying to expedite their mass theft

>>7438175
>Back to the point, I dont understand people's concerns on "being associated with 4chan"

Art community is mostly left leaning. When people think of 4chan they think of /pol/ and the alt right/maga crowd. I don't think anyone sees 4chan as the big bad lehacker site from the early 00s. There are more lethal sites like Kikifarms that makes this place blush.

I mean if anything my non-glazed art would just corrupt the algorithm with badly drawn colored pencil hyper muscular anime pecs so in a way I am contributing to the cause by not glazing it, got on my level professionals, smugretardedpepe.jpg

>>7437964
I'm pretty sure you don't even know how glaze/nightshade work. From what I remember the process is done on your own pc so the image doesn't even get out (you can also request the image to be processed in servers owned by them but I'm pretty sure they delete it after sending it to you/after some hours), also i think it's not a company, I'm also pretty sure it's from a university.

>>7437997
you're retarded and yes they do, just go to the actual good generals. /fag/ and that loli shit on are garbage and made this board an even shitter place to be in, but even those fags actually post their work.

>>7438009
The actual reason to not post here and label yourself as a 4chin artist, so schizos or vendetta fags don't go after you 24/7, happened to guys like pantsuu. Other times it's an "excuse" to not call out your bull shit for saying dumbass or wrong shit.

>>7438252
AFAIK, the way these retards grab data is by scraping entire websites/accounts and not manually, so theoretically any well known artist could poison the algo by making sure 4/5 the images they post are badly drawn doodleslop

>>7438237
>you're paying
please do the needful

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>>7438252
Found the reaction picture I was looking for, here is it in case people wanna reuse it, pepe reaction pictures are a lost art if you ask me

>>7438167
Yeah it's a pipe dream, we're talking about a massive number of pictures so like you said we're better off focusing on protection from AI instead of poisoning the data.

>>7438175
for this as well. >>7438254

>>7438258
better glaze that peepo then before the aifags get their grubby hands on it

>>7438256
>manually
i never said they were doing it manually, i just wanted to mention how us special individuals contribute to the cause by posting vast amounts of slop, heck deviantart is 60% is fetishes that have been badly edited onto screenshots of early 00's cartoons and ms paint fat scuba furries

>>7438253
>sure they delete it after sending it to you/after some hours

You're stupid if you believe that. Haven't all the company oopsie poopsie leaks that claimed they do similar deletion practices over the years taught you anything? They're still conducting research. They need to make money somehow and it's with your data. They're probably selling it to OpenAI behind your back.

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>>7438276
too late sir, I did the needful and fed them to the AI, I will now proceed to make bootiful rare pepes with my prompt engineer degree

>>7438283
I know, I was just musing that even people who draw well could theoretically fuck it up by posting poorly drawn garbage to get trawled by AI.

>>7438276
great point anon, thank you for the remainder

>NOoo don't feed my work to ai
>*uploads to Twitter*

>>7438284
>company
it's a project from the university of chicago, retard.

>We have heard administrators at art schools and art teachers talking about plummeting student enrollment, and panicked parents concerned for the future of their aspiring artist children. Glaze is a system designed to protect human artist by disturbing style mimicry.

^from their website https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/what-is-glaze.html

>>7438284
openai can't even pay to keep the lights on lmao, microsoft and nvidia had to bail it out of the 5 billion deep hole they dig themselves into

>>7438307
>universities don't engage in partnerships with companies to commercialize research never ever
>(Thank you National Science Foundation, DARPA, Amazon AWS and C3.ai).

Oh boy...I'm sure they're doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, though!

>noooooooo stop using glaze and nightshade! i-it's going to ai!!
lol

>>7437953
I go to great lengths to ensure that every picture I upload is in the highest quality possible. Why would I then bake AI artifacts into my art? That's counter-productive.
The glaring issue with this stuff is that the artifacts are human-perceptible. Perfect example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater

>>7438326
You could just glaze your public posts and release unaltered high res pictures to patrons.

>>7438337
which then get uploaded to kemono by a bot btw

>>7438343
you're never gonna avoid becoming AI food but at least this way you get some money back out of it

>>7438345
oh wow $5 per month.

>>7438366
that's already way more than you would get if any of these AI thieves even bothered to reach out and ask to license your work for their datasets

>>7438337
I don't have a Patreon. I draw for the love of the game. That, and I get angry when other people do the same thing, and I don't wanna be a hypocrite.

>>7438242
>more lethal sites like Kikifarms
Unless you are a polyquad starving your lifestock so you can buy Lego sets you are fine

>>7438484
They had gangstalking threads where they actually go out IRL and harass people. There is a small homeless youtube community that was a prime target. Particularly people like Network126 and B4T where they did stuff like "operation paperclip".

>>7438487
Same thing happens on tiktok, people would harras and stalk mentally ill people or convince them to say or do dumb stuff on camera same thing with reddit look at any subreddit with the ending of "snark" where they mostly make fun and stalk of poor mentally ill women

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>>7438242
>Art community is mostly left leaning. When people think of 4chan they think of /pol/ and the alt right/maga crowd.
That's true, some users out there seem to regard this site as some kind of den for alt rights even if that description doesn't quite define the actual average user since the "rightoid element" is merely a passive one, at least compared to /pol/, those guys are insane.
>There are more lethal sites like Kikifarms that makes this place blush.
One could make the argument that, while 4chan is a mess in and of itself, you are safer around here than in other platforms because the element of anonymity gives room for sincerity brought by detachment, whereas in mainstream platforms you are conditioned to be someone who follows social rules and conceal our true nature for the sake of those rules.
>>7438254
>The actual reason to not post here and label yourself as a 4chin artist, so schizos or vendetta fags don't go after you 24/7
That is also true. Ironically, I am more concerned of schizos and vendettafags than twitterinos and moralfags when it comes to letting my online activity known. The latter group has no power or will to commit on the hating, but schizos and vendettafags WILL go to places for the hate.

>>7437953
Nobody is going to train AI with your permabeg slop. Retard

Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.

>>7437953
Don't the models need hundreds and hundreds of pictures to train on to produce results?
Would my handful of amateur drawings even affect the model?

>>7438665
>>7438593
>>7438587
retard cope

>>7438242
>>7438487
did you learn about "kikifarms" from wikipedo? cause thats what it sounds like kek

>>7438572
>you are safer around here than in other platforms because the element of anonymity gives room for sincerity brought by detachment, whereas in mainstream platforms you are conditioned to be someone who follows social rules and conceal our true nature for the sake of those rules.
True, every word of this, that's why I always been pro anonymity or at least everybody having the same username, there's an authenticity you can't find elsewhere, is also a safe ground for the autistic and retarded where you don't have to worry about coming out as off whereby on social media platforms everybody talks about being autistic or having some sorta mental illness but bash anybody who actually exhibits such illnesses, metal illnesses to them is just a quirky personally people wear on their chest like a fancy brooch..well in their case is a literal button but whatever

>>7438572
>twitterinos
You seem to have forgotten how twitterfags track down ancient account just to find a speck of problematic they can cry about to somebody's place of work so they can get fired
>schizos and vendettafags
Those exist for people who draw poplar stuff just like on social media, if your stuff is painfully normie they leave you alone, they only care if it's a hot anime women holding a big gun

>>7438731
It's true in theory, however in practice, well, the state of the board speaks for itself.

>>7438733
What if it's a big sword?

>>7437953
No. Doing so is cringe

>>7438734
It's more of a "if you fuck up it doesn't matter" since there's nothing tracing you back whereby on social media people screencap and archive that shit, if you fuck up a drawing so bad it get hundreds of (you)s, at least now you know you should post it on social media otherwise you online presence will be forever branded as being "le x guy" unless maybe you are one of those "wanna be celebrity" people who draws everything in a very specific unique way, most people think they draw in a unique way but in reality its really not, also the state of this board changed so much since I was a teen, now you gets bans and warnings for attacking a person's character and behavior whereby back in the day that didn't happen

>>7437964
Anon. Glaze is offline

>>7438343
Is kemono still up to date these days?

>>7438305
Just because I dressed that way didn't mean I was asking for it.

>>7438034
Glaze actually makes the texture on the red fabric cool

Glazed and confused.

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>>7437953
the only glaze I use is pic related

>>7438185
>>7437953
it doesn't work. People already went over it when it came out, its pointless cope

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>>7440587
>it doesn't work

>>7437953
It doesn't work, and even if it did, I'm not ruining my art to spite some fucking jeets who would find a way around it eventually anyway

Ever since I saw they're trying to ban glaze and nightshade I knew that it was legit. So, now I do.

>>7440613

>they're trying to ban glaze and nightshade
source?

>>7440613
I don't know about triying to ban it but those open ai cocksuckers compared using nightshade/glaze to "abuse"

>>7437953
tried nightshade but it took literal hours and the output was not ideal. can't really experiment on what settings work cause my shitty laptop just can't handle it

>>7440655
Get a 4090

>>7438009
CP was never allowed on 4chan.

>>7440993
Do you think that would stop them?

>>7440993
theres drawn cp on b constantly.

>>7441052
Anon, what the fuck? One is literally raping and exploiting children, real children, the other is drawings.

Seriously what the actual fuck is wrong with you?

>>7440652
>abuse
The absolute fucking arrogance, sometimes I hate these jeets so fucking much I can barely breathe

other better artists will do it for me, it just takes a few nightshaded images to fuck up machines

Is there proof from AI troglodytes that they’ve ended up with scrambled images?

This always sounded cool to me but I see no proof that it actually helps

>>7440604
Doesnt matter how many times we show him, his memory wipes and then he posts the same "glaze/nightshade didnt work" cope the next day or in a different thread.

>>7437953
>do you guys use glaze/nightshade to protect against ai training?
no
>if not, why not?
i get 0-4 likes a post man

>>7441411
legally theyre equivalent, at least in my country.

>>7441577
>>7440604